Just Two Good Old Boys
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Just Two Good Old Boys
079 Just Two Good Old Boys
Ever wondered why Kamala Harris’s digital candidacy announcement is causing waves, or why ammo prices are soaring? Join us for a jam-packed episode where we recount our latest barbecue ventures with a shoutout to the legendary Louis Mueller Barbecue in Taylor. We make plans for a future meetup involving barbecue, gifts, and a gun range trip, only to segue into a spirited debate on the best ammo deals and the plastic versus metal ammo can conundrum. And you won’t want to miss the hilarious tale of a Cybertruck failing spectacularly to tow an F-250!
Is the concept of race and identity more fluid than we think? We go deeper into societal attitudes, the complexities of mixed ancestry, and the modern craving to identify as a minority. Along the way, we share a laugh-worthy yet insightful parenting story that underscores the fine line between protecting kids and letting them build their immune systems. The episode then transitions to wildfire management as we dissect the devastating fires in Colorado, exploring the crucial roles of state versus federal control and the importance of controlled burns.
From the evolving dynamics of marriage to the harsh realities of divorce, we tackle how financial independence is reshaping relationships. We share personal stories and observations about the contentious nature of custody battles and the adversarial mindset that can emerge. Wrapping things up, we touch on the rising cost of everyday items and utilities, reminiscing about more affordable times and the economic shifts impacting daily life. We finish on a light-hearted note, with playful banter and a promise of more engaging content next week. Stay tuned!
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Howdy Ben. How are you today? I'm doing well, gene yourself.
Speaker 2:Pretty good.
Speaker 1:pretty good all of a sudden, then, yeah, how was your barbecue the other day?
Speaker 2:It was good. I haven't gone to a barbecue in a while, so it was good to get some. The prices are astronomical.
Speaker 1:Oh, so this wasn't a backyard barbecue. Oh, no, no, no, you weren't invited to the barbecue, you just went for barbecue. This is.
Speaker 2:Black's. Yeah, yeah, no. I was meeting up with Nigrofic Energy, the guy that I did a few shows with, who's now moved to Austin, and I thought, you know it needs to be in an appropriate place. So we went to Black's Barbecue and, of course, I wore my BLM shirt because I didn't want to stand out. So it was a good time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's good. It's not the best barbecue in Texas, for sure.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, why didn't you go to Franklin's?
Speaker 2:Well, you got to stand in line at Franklin's. I mean, to get all the line standing that I ever need for the rest of my life is done already. So yeah, franklin's would have been better. Frankly, even just driving to Lockhart and then going to the old blacks would have been better but uh, yeah, this is very convenient, it's.
Speaker 1:It's just south of downtown. Have you been in to taylor louis mueller barbecue I've not been to muller's no oh, you need to go okay, it's worth.
Speaker 2:It's worth a drive why don't we just uh find a date to meet up there and do a gift exchange there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2:Kill three birds with one stone.
Speaker 1:Well, we'd also have to. You know, if we wanted to do all the birds, we'd also need to do a meetup Gun range.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Do a meetup, do a gun range? Yeah, he wants to go shooting as well. All right. Well, definitely you need to plan a gun shooting day event. Time thing For sure.
Speaker 1:I need to get the Tavor out with the new linear compensator on it and see how that's going to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to try yours before buying all that stuff for mine. Yeah. Yeah, no I'm sure it's good. I'm sure it's good, so what do you want to start off with? It's been an interesting, busy week oh it, yes, it has.
Speaker 1:Um well, uh, kamali got installed as the official candidate I mean installed, is almost underselling it.
Speaker 2:She, she got propped up through the back door.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, we, we're gonna have a phone call and we're going to everybody vote digitally because you know there's nothing that could go wrong there and who was on this phone call just brock basically no, no, it was um do we have a? Recording of this phone call.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they do or not but no recording didn't happen it was all supposed to be the you know dnc yeah, all the democrats get on the phone, super delegates. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that that's exactly what it was well, either way, it'll be interesting to see, uh, what happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the next little bit um, interesting to see what happens indeed. Uh, ammo price is going back up shocker uh, yep, so you should have got. Y'all should have gotten in on that deal that ben was talking about well, there's still quite a few deals out there yeah, probably is, but I think more of them are going to be oversold well, there's a couple good places right now.
Speaker 1:Um, I would not buy bulk ammo right now for .308 or .556, given what Palmetto State is doing their AAC ammo. It's, per round, just as cheap as buying surplus or anything else has been lately. You might not get the ammo cam, but you can go pick that up at Harbor Freight for $10-$15.
Speaker 2:I prefer the plastic ones anyway, oh god the metal ones you're wrong what do you mean?
Speaker 1:I'm wrong, it's a opinion yes, but it's a wrong opinion and I'll tell you why. Jesus christ, if you have a ammo can full of ammo, like, let's say, a 50 .50 caliber size ammo can, plastic, or metal doesn't matter, and you've got 500 rounds of .308 in there and you go to grab it and you jerk it. The plastic one's going to break, the metal one's not.
Speaker 2:Totally not going to break.
Speaker 1:I've broken several of them.
Speaker 2:Well, don't get cheap shit. It has more to do with the quality than it does with the material.
Speaker 3:I can guarantee you that it has more to do with the quality than it does with the material.
Speaker 2:I can guarantee you that, okay, okay, you're going to say Pelican cases suck too.
Speaker 1:I have several Pelican cases I like.
Speaker 2:Pelican. Oh Well, you know, they're plastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they're a totally different use case.
Speaker 2:Oh, I see, Okay, it's a matter of what you get, and you can get cheap shit that's metal, and you can get cheap shit that's plastic.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I prefer plastic. Oh, my goodness, you like your gun cases, like you like your women.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely, and my trucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did you see the Sabre truck that was towing F-250? No oh yeah, the F-250 got stuck, so this dude's gonna pull it out with his Cybertruck and rips the bumper off the Cybertruck the bumper yeah, the hitch isn't on the bumper. What the hell are you? It is actually. It's not actually it's in the frame underneath the bumper yes, and he, and it sheared off the frame point because the frame is aluminum.
Speaker 2:But it has nothing to do with the bumper. It's not connected to the bumper at all.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I think it was faked.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:Because it sounds like it's faked. I'll watch it, but I like it's faked.
Speaker 1:I'll watch it, but uh, I suspect it's faked it's you know big truck going after uh elon yeah, it's big truck going after elon all right, there's plenty of things the Cybertruck is not good at. Signal chat. Yeah, those evil apps, those evil encrypted apps.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, you got to be you know, because clearly, if you have that on your phone, you have an encrypted phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyway, the bumper comes off with the hitch is all I'm saying Well, that's a good rationale for it being fake.
Speaker 2:then why, because the bumper is not connected to the hitch. The hitch sticks through the bumper okay, just look at the.
Speaker 1:You can say this all you want. I think it's really pretty interesting, because if the frame is aluminum, it's a fake video.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you right now. It's a fake video. I'm watching it. It is a fake video why is it?
Speaker 1:fake, because they attached it to the bumper instead of the hitch okay, well, whatever it ripped the, the frame, it tore the frame, the aluminum frame. But this, this is a problem with all trucks the f? Uh, the f-150 and the F-250 are aluminum frames as well.
Speaker 2:Now, yeah, I recall something about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's a problem. You know, some of them are aluminum body with steel frames still, and some of them are going to aluminum frames and the problem is really about repair. You know you, you can bend, steel you aluminum tears, you can't pop a dent out of aluminum right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, aluminum does not stretch like steel does, which is actually what they've said. Why they use steel on the cyber truck's body is because they aluminum is too fragile yet they used it for the frame they did well. The frame on that truck doesn't even look like a frame. It's a container for batteries. So yeah, no, it'll be interesting to see. And could the frame get damaged? I think absolutely, but I just watched that video. That was definitely a fake video.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you say Mm-hmm. I think it's pretty real.
Speaker 2:No, because, again, where the hitch goes in is literally a hole in the bumper. Okay, so so just saying anyway, um, and speaking of cyber truck, so at the barbecue place. Uh, I took a photo. I can't remember if I posted it. I may not have posted on x. There was a black wrapped cyber truck okay. So it was just solid black like uh, not you know shiny black, but like matte black. That's a very cool look for that truck.
Speaker 1:Why I don't think that truck looks cool at all, I think it looks shitty.
Speaker 2:It. It looks very Batman ish that way.
Speaker 1:Okay when it's on black you think?
Speaker 2:you're batman I'm not batman, no, no, I'm bruce wayne. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:yeah, so I should start calling you bruce, got it you should totally call me bruce, not gene anymore bruce bruce exactly kamala. Uh, did you watch the judge joe brown interview? No he did several and it is worth watching I assume he's pretty brutal oh my god, is he brutal.
Speaker 2:It's hilarious I honestly have seen quite a few little short, you know 30 second clips on either x or uh youtube of a variety of black people really just stomping on kamala, which frankly I think is very racist, because black people assaulting indian jamaicans is you know, it's not cool man, it shouldn't be racist.
Speaker 1:Why is it racist?
Speaker 2:Look, it's one thing if you're making fun of your own people, but it's something else to go after somebody. That's a different race for that race.
Speaker 1:I don't know that it's a different race, but okay, well, I mean, I mean, are we differentiating?
Speaker 2:Kamala was a slave owner. So I kind of don't see how it's not the same different race.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I. So this is something that's interesting because if you look back at the history of how race was perceived throughout time, up until post world war ii in the 20th century, your race and your country were largely indistinguishable okay, you're getting serious.
Speaker 2:I was making levity of it, but, okay, let's talk about this, let's talk about race.
Speaker 1:Seriously, go ahead okay, well, like you know, people would say, hitler was Austrian, not German. Yeah well, he was ethnically German.
Speaker 2:Germanic I would say Eh, okay.
Speaker 1:Anyway, he would say he was German. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. The point is, you know, you had this concept of race that was tied to where you were from, where your ancestors were from, and so on. You wouldn't call an Irishman white, for example.
Speaker 2:God, I still don't.
Speaker 1:Fuck you. You know I'm Scotch-Irish dude.
Speaker 2:Yes yes. Would you call somebody from Australia white?
Speaker 1:Ah, you know, that's okay Debatable, right? It depends on, you know, it depends on your modern definition. So today we would say anyone in America at least the way it's seen is really anyone that has light skin that isn't brown in any way is white. Um, you know, that's pretty much how they do it. I think that's not the way it has been previously.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, americans define things differently than the rest of the world too, because, uh, what's interesting here is that somebody who has one black ancestor and seven white ones is considered black yeah right because they've got that one black. Now you can look at it from a kkk purity standpoint and say, of course that's black because not 100% white.
Speaker 2:But, also, I think it's the other way around mostly, which is I've seen these videos of, quote black girls and it's usually girls, because that's what makes these types of videos sending their DNA in to get tested by 23 you know, 23andme or one of the other companies and they're looking for their Nubian you know DNA results. Right, it's like, ooh, which African countries am I from? Where am I a princess? It's usually the attitude. And then they get it back and it's like 12% Scottish, 8, eight percent italian, you know, uh, 16 portuguese and and they're way less than 50 black, and they're always disappointed. And I think that that's really what it is these days is. It's not sort of the k-type racist attitude that you would expect or think, maybe by default, or some people would, anyway, maybe not you but it's more of like a desire to be a minority is much stronger than the desire to not be a minority, certainly by the 20 and under, or 30 and under, let's say, generations. Well, you, have the.
Speaker 1:I hate the white part of myself and things like that. That are just you know. Why would anyone hate any part of it? How can you hate part of yourself?
Speaker 2:A lot of people hate themselves. I mean, that's a pretty common thing. How, I don't know man, maybe bad parenting?
Speaker 1:But it just doesn't make sense to me. I mean, you are who you are To hate. Any part of you is antithetical at best.
Speaker 2:Why do we have a growing trans movement thing happening?
Speaker 1:Because people hate themselves what. Mental illness.
Speaker 2:Exactly, it's all related. Bad parenting, mental illness isn't necessarily genetically caused. It's quite often caused by circumstances, and that's bad parenting hmm, and well, it also.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess what if I said yeah, and it also could be because of insert schools or whatever here, you would say, yes, that's, that's better by allowing them to be absolutely gotcha, absolutely yeah well, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2:When the parent completely gives up decision making relating to their child, how can you call it anything else?
Speaker 1:uh, I don't know, I wouldn't do it, so yeah there you go, so you're not a bad parent. I try not to be, although sometimes you know it's easy to kind of be a little harsh on your kids at times. It's always easier to be harder on the boy than it is the girl.
Speaker 2:I would imagine. I think that's a good generalization. I was talking to um one of my buddies that I, that I uh drive uh simulated trucks with and um, uh, he, he has 10 kids, um, so kids, um, so he's an overachiever. But I, I, yeah, we're driving around, talking whatever. And I said, well, so tell me, at which kid do you stop being nervous or cautious as to what you're doing? Cause I got to imagine your first kid. Everybody's like super paranoid about making the right decisions and doing things right, and you know, and at some point over the course of going from one to ten, you've got to come to that thing where, like, ah, you'll be fine, right. And he said, well, there's kind of a little parable or story around that, to where, uh, first time, mother's uh, um, bringing a uh milk bottle to a baby and or not a milk bottle, but what do you call those things you put in its mouth?
Speaker 2:a bottle, no, no, what else you put in?
Speaker 1:baby pacifier pacifier.
Speaker 2:Brings the pacifier to the baby. Baby spits it out. Pacifier falls in the furrow. First time mother grabs the pass fire, runs to the kitchen, boils water, washes the pass fire, cools it off, touches it to her skin, makes sure that it's the right temperature, runs back and brings it back to the baby. Second kid mother grabs the pass fire, walks to the sink, washes it in cold water, brings it back, sticks it in the baby. Third kid mother wipes it on her clothes classifier. Walks to the sink, washed it in cold water, brings it back, sticks in the baby. Third kid mother wipes it on their clothes, sticks it back in the baby's mouth. Um, and he says yeah, it kind of like that's not too far from reality, is that by the third, fourth kid you've seen it all. You realize they're not nearly as dainty and you know like you don't have to be nearly as protective of them.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, you're helping their immune system, right?
Speaker 2:Well, and that's the counterargument right is that you actually want them to be introduced to germs so that their bodies can generate antibodies. You don't want them exposed to massive amounts of germs, but you also don't want to completely isolate them from what they're going to encounter anyway as they grow up.
Speaker 1:Well, I think a large portion of the autoimmune disease we have in the United States for example, is due to lack of exposure.
Speaker 2:I suspect that's probably true, although I've not studied it so I really don't know, but it would make sense if that's the case.
Speaker 1:Well, if you look at the statistics in the first world versus the third world, the first world has a lot of autoimmune.
Speaker 2:The third world does not Well, I know certainly in Russia nobody had allergies.
Speaker 1:In Russia. I wrote for you.
Speaker 2:An allergy was considered like a birth defect. It's something that so few people have that it's seen as a weird anomaly, probably caused by bad genes.
Speaker 1:Is that what happened to you?
Speaker 2:I'm not allergic to anything. I was born there and here. I can probably count on one hand the number of people I know who are not allergic to anything. Yeah. Because everybody seems to have some kind of allergy. Uh, you know like I remember as a kid eating peanut butter with a spoon. Now they close schools if somebody's mom put a peanut butter sandwich into one kid's uh lunch bag yeah, I, I.
Speaker 1:I think there's a lot of environmental variables there that have caused our increased allergy rates, including food allergies and everything else.
Speaker 2:My point is when I was a kid, I was digging dirt and using an outhouse, not indoor plumbing. You're lucky to be alive. It built it up right Apparently. Yeah, because when you're actually interacting with the earth and all the bacteria and other critters there, your body gets used to it pretty quick. And if it doesn't get used to it when you're young, it has trouble later in life. So I think that's somewhat broken right now.
Speaker 1:Just the exposing of kids, or which part? Because you could also look at. You know vaccines and everything else.
Speaker 2:Well, our diets are totally broken, as well.
Speaker 1:Vaccines, plastics I mean All of it.
Speaker 2:You could take a piece of bread like normal bread, not fresh baked, you know, in a upscale bakery, but like bread you'd buy at a grocery store, put it on the counter in the air and leave it there for two weeks and it nothing happens to it. It looks exactly the same it'll be stale it'll taste worse, but it'll look the same. You do that with a piece of fresh baked bread and it's about 48 hours and it'll start getting covered with mold and green gooey shit and you know ants will start eating.
Speaker 1:It actually is made and the whole I forget the term for it but they basically shit decrease the amount of actual flour used dramatically and it's one of the ways we've quote unquote fed people.
Speaker 2:But the problem is, you know, um, when you, when you're feeding people crap that has less nutritional value shocker yeah it doesn't work out as well as you might think yeah, yeah, and with all the preservatives that are utilized in foods. I know this is a while ago, maybe like 10, 15 years ago. I remember seeing a thing about how mortuaries have to burn people longer in their kilns, in their ovens, when they're doing cremation, because people don't burn like they used to.
Speaker 1:Hmm, because, people don't burn like they used to.
Speaker 2:I would think the embalmers would have less to do then when people are flame resistant.
Speaker 1:Maybe I don't know I mean that's if they're being cremated, If they're being embalmed.
Speaker 2:Embalmers mostly are doing that for the viewings, though. Right, because you don't have to embalm somebody if you're gonna just cremate them and not have any viewing it's really for the burial yeah yeah, but again for the viewing for the burial, because if you're gonna bury somebody without a viewing, you don't need to embalm.
Speaker 1:You don't have to be embalmed for that.
Speaker 2:Well, why are they embalming anybody then? Because people want to last forever but that's not gonna make you last forever it, it's gonna, it's gonna make you not worm food gene embalming.
Speaker 1:No it's, it's, dude people buy hermetically sealed caskets and shit that's insane dude. That's freaking insane yeah, I mean, burn me, throw me in a pine box, I don't care, I'm dead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the ideal for me would be a Viking-style funeral, which is on a wooden boat that gets set on fire, with me aboard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my dad's always said the same thing Put him on his boat, put him out in the gulf put his foot on the throttle with a beer in his hand and let him go, and if we miss, then he just goes out to sea.
Speaker 2:I watched one of those for somebody's pet.
Speaker 1:Totally illegal in the US Eh whatever.
Speaker 2:I saw somebody doing that for their pet and I remember it took them three arrows to actually light the thing because they missed the first two. You've watched Norsemen right. Norsemen, yeah yeah. Tv series. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And the brother trying to, and he misses and misses and misses.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's right. That's right, they did that.
Speaker 1:Oops, oh well, you know Wow.
Speaker 2:And I think they do a similar thing in India. Yeah where they put a little uh boat thing and they they burn people on there, like I think that's a, uh you know, kind of festive and fun and and doesn't leave a whole lot of trace yeah, I much better than the casket that keeps you from being eaten by worms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had to speaking of India interesting segue here I had to deal with some employee stuff. We've got employees that are being affected by some of the Colorado fires. One of my employees was telling me how it reminded them of India when they walked outside because of all the wood smoke. Like they're just taken back to India like, oh shit, this is, you know, because they cook with wood there. Quite a bit.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:The wildfires in Colorado right now are no joke, like there's some right outside of Denver and Boulder thatoulder that are just really like color. Ironically enough, colorado springs space force is safe, but the rest of colorado not so much well, generally, if you get big wildfires, it's because you're not doing controlled burns enough yeah, there is that whole thing where California, colorado, oregon, washington aren't managing the forest very well, but it's not necessarily the state government.
Speaker 1:So, for instance, idaho there have been some pretty massive wildfires there as well, and it's a fairly conservative state that if given the opportunity, would manage the forest. The problem comes in when it's federally controlled forests. So the feds, you know, see this as an old growth forest and we don't want to touch it. We don't want to. You know this is important to preserve and da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Speaker 2:The purple flying chipmunks live there, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and all of a sudden you have a bad lightning, storm or something come through and next thing you know well that forest isn't there anymore. So what is the better alternative?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 2:Actually managing it and burning it in such a way that it is non-destructive, or like I remember as a kid going up to northern minnesota and uh, going mushroom hunting up there and stuff, and so walking through forest and on the drive up like kind of you know, towards Duluth or central Minnesota Bemidji area, um, you would see these sort of stripes, probably like an area that's maybe a I don't know quarter mile wide and I don't know how deep or how long. That is all burned and then it's perfectly fine for us for quite a while after that and then you'd see another one of these areas that's like a quarter mile long. That's that's burned. So these are controlled fires that they've done to kind of place a quarter mile width span to control potentially a large fire that might get started.
Speaker 2:Couldn't jump over that yeah and every year you'd see these in slightly different areas. So it seemed like they were proactively trying to manage that.
Speaker 1:But maybe that was state forest, I don't know well it really comes down to does the state have the ability to even manage it or not? Mm-hmm. And a lot of times, the answer is no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep. Well, that's unfortunate. I mean fires anywhere, not pleasant, but certainly when they're massive, the way they are in Colorado, that's horrible, dangerous and leaves a lot of many years of recuperation after that to get the uh well, the burnout force back.
Speaker 1:I mean, like what happened in uh, you know, the austin area not super long ago. You know that was uh what. What area was it that uh ended up getting decimated right there outside of austin?
Speaker 2:I'm not even sure, I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um.
Speaker 2:I didn't know there was one.
Speaker 1:Shit. Hmm, it's. It's one of the towns that's right outside Austin and right there in hill country that got hit really hard by wildfires. Hmm.
Speaker 2:I. I guess I wasn't paying attention. Dammit Gene, I don't know. I I really don't paying attention, dammit Gene. I don't know. I really don't know who in what area around Austin would have been hit.
Speaker 1:See, this is where we have to do some editing, so why don't you?
Speaker 2:keep talking while I Google this. Okay, you want to Google it? All right, that's fine. I was actually looking up like does Minnesota even have federal land? And I guess it does. The right north little tip of Minnesota has federal land. And then of course, there's a number of different reservations from related Sioux tribes and Ojibwe up there that are technically considered federal land by the state, but they're obviously not federal land.
Speaker 1:Yes, a reservation is a reservation, federal land.
Speaker 2:Right. As far as the state is concerned, it's federal land Theoretically. No, it should not be. Yeah, it should be sovereign land.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was right outside, it wasn't Round Rock Shit. Hmm, man, honestly was right outside, it wasn't Round. Rock Shit.
Speaker 2:Hmm, man, honestly there's just not that much shit here to burn. Like Austin doesn't have many trees, we have shrubbery?
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I mean. No, you have trees, they're just small trees, gene. Yeah, shrubs.
Speaker 2:Jesus. Christ. Every time I go up to Washington State and I drive through the Redwoods.
Speaker 1:it reminds me just how much we don't have trees. Okay, I don't understand that, but you know, they're just different types of trees.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you call a person that's three feet tall?
Speaker 1:Gene.
Speaker 2:A shrub. You missed it. No, I didn't miss it, I ignored it. So, you sent me some pictures of Kamala looking 7-Eleven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you're going to call me out on that, great thanks.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just saying that's good, buddy. I mean I'm not going to say what the picture said. You're more than welcome to.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it was just a way of determining whether or not she was Indian or black.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, using a 7-Eleven, got it? Yes, I'll just leave it at that. I hey, I bet you the horrific energy would agree with it. Oh, I'm sure. Uh, yeah, no, he does not consider her black at all.
Speaker 1:You know, I don't think most people do I don't think any of the people that I know that are african, uh no you're considering her either way, like the ados, folks don't think of her as american black the literally a slave owner. So no, right, but the the import, you know the the immigrants, uh see her as traitor to those roots because she doesn't own that like there's well, I've definitely seen videos of indian people talking about how she sailed all through college being an Indian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she has mentioned it zero times since.
Speaker 1:Well, there's even that. No, she has. There was that interview during the 2020 race with the Indian chick from the office.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right, the fat chick.
Speaker 1:Yes, and they made a Indian dish, dish right oh, they cooked indian food.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right one of her that proves she's indian, then yeah, I mean, I thought she was good at cooking grains wasn't she good at cooking greens or something like? People would always want her to cook them greens for christmas, and one year she had to go and use a bathtub to make all the greens for people who the fuck?
Speaker 1:how would you make greens in?
Speaker 2:a bathtub that makes no sense it's not possible that's what she said, man, this is.
Speaker 1:I'm not making this up who eats mustard greens and collard greens and turnip greens, and I like greens well, you must have a lot of bathtub usage going on then toilet usage yes, bathtub not in the same way. Uh, this, this episode is going to be off the rail.
Speaker 2:I'm still waiting for somebody to make a video of her with comma, comma, comma chameleon playing in the background oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, you've seen the pictures of her dressed up almost stripper-esque, hooker-esque, from college I'm trying not to remember them, but thank you what do you mean?
Speaker 2:I don't want to look at somebody that looks like that okay, why? Not attractive whatsoever. If I want to look at college kids that are hot, I'm going to not look at her.
Speaker 1:Eh, I don't know, oh you thought she was hot, do you? I wouldn't say she's hot, but she's not like she wasn't. She was a lot better then than she is now.
Speaker 2:She's one of those chicks that just from looking at her you knew she was easy yeah, well, you know.
Speaker 2:But you know that going down you know there are certain ethnicities and races that while there can be attractive ones early, they generally don't age well, sure like you're talking about mexicans, clearly no, I was actually thinking about indians, now that we're just offending everyone, you know well, I mean, it's true there there is a bigger swing, I would say, in terms of hotness if that's a word, which it is um between like young, very curvy, very hot looking mexican women and their mothers. Like that swing is much greater. It's a bigger difference versus, say, a norwegian 20 something year old chick and her mom, who sometimes looks very similar to her.
Speaker 1:And then you get the Russians that the moms are not hot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the Russian moms are more akin to the Mexican ones, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is just not you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's you know, there's certain.
Speaker 1:Just a tip to if it doesn't come through yet if you're in your 20s and haven't gotten married yet and you're thinking about getting married, look at the mom, because the mom is what you're going to get later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and that's a good reason not to get married.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think procreation is its own reason to get married.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm not against procreation.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it should be done in marriage.
Speaker 2:If you manage to have a real marriage that doesn't end in divorce.
Speaker 1:Sure, agreed, but like, 86% of marriages end in divorce at this point, yeah, yeah, yeah, you sent me that in the video, yep, uh, which you know. Shit happens, man, but and we've taken all the rationale out of why women would want to be good wives out of the equation and I will say no matter how careful you think you're being when you go to get married, um, you have zero control over what the other person's going to do, and as a result you know, even if you think, oh, this girl's not like that, well, she may not be like that now, but right, give it a few years and you.
Speaker 2:You can see it. You can observe it in a number of Hollywood actresses. You can see interviews with them when they're in their early 20s, mid 20s, late 20s, early 30s. You will see what is, frankly, I think, a very stereotypical progression for women. When they start earning money or well, getting money, but either way, whether they're earning it or somebody else is earning it, they start becoming more masculine. They start thinking more in the same terms that men do. They stop worrying about things like um, you know, what do I need to do to I don't want to say be attractive, because beyond attractive to sort of what, what? What should I be doing to fill my role? I guess would be more of the.
Speaker 2:It'd be kind of like if a guy and this could happen with guys too you get lucky and get a big score and get a bunch of money. You lose drive. Very often, you stop trying to get better at what you're doing and you just start fucking around more, and it's it's fairly common. It happens with guys and there's a, the, the female equivalent of that also exists. They don't. Men and women don't do the same things when they don't have a drive. They do slightly different things, but it's very evident and that drive in both men and women is the thing that is underlying. Attractive to the opposite sex Can be yeah, yeah, yeah. So when, when you're let's say you're a 20 something year old, let's say you're a 30 something year old guy, and your company goes through an ipo and I know that doesn't happen these days, but it used to back in my day- and all of a sudden you know you go from stock in a couple companies that I'm hoping will.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah well and I wish you luck in that. But you go from making a decent wage but a working wage. Let's say you're making under $100,000 a year and all of a sudden you just got stock worth like $7 million. Well, that doesn't happen anymore, that's for sure no, but it used to happen routinely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, a lot of companies that you can. Can you know if you go to work for a startup now, having done that fairly recently in?
Speaker 2:my life the owners have definitely wised up oh yeah, giving away a hell of a lot less equity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it used to be. It used to be very different but, anyway, something like that happens, like most people just work out their remaining year after the IPO to make sure they have the remainder of that earning.
Speaker 1:Well, they make sure and maximize their stock options.
Speaker 2:Yeah, basically, basically.
Speaker 2:And then you know, you buy a nice expensive fancy car you buy a nice, expensive, fancy car, you get a house that's got a swimming pool, a pool table and a giant tv room for all your buddies to come over and watch football games, and you discover xbox. Well, a lot, because you're no longer interested in doing things that you were before, because now you're kind of set, or at least you think you are. You're never really set, but you think you're set and um, while you're doing all those things that are enjoyable for you to do, you, you also start becoming a lot less attractive. So the only part of you that remains attractive is oh, you got money. Got money, okay, so that's still there, but you've got no purpose, no goals, no progression forward. You're just kind of fucking around with your life and that's just not something that genetically, biologically, is programmed to be attractive.
Speaker 2:So and you know, obviously except's a a similar corollary for women, and for women, quite often it's not winning the lottery or getting an IPO, it is having their husband win the lottery or go through an IPO and then start complaining about what their husband is doing and then getting divorced and keeping half of that money. So a woman who's recently divorced and is worth several million dollars she has very little motivation or interest to do things that make her attractive Superficially. She can now go and do more expensive Botox. She can get plastic surgery if she wants to. She can do things that superficially she thinks makes her attractive, but she's going to be doing and saying things that absolutely make her unattractive.
Speaker 1:Well, you've seen that meme, I assume which meme. You know. You've seen that meme, I assume which meme, Telling your girlfriend you know, hey, what would you do if?
Speaker 2:I won the lottery. You've seen this or no?
Speaker 1:No, hey, what would you do if I won the lottery? Oh, I would take half and leave you. Oh yeah, okay Well here I won 40 bucks on a scratcher. Bye.
Speaker 2:Right At that point you're like okay, but you promised to leave me. So, yeah, exactly yeah. Because I think, in a lot of ways, if we look at these 60-year-old marriages that our parents or grandparents had, depending on how old you are uh, like you know, they never stopped doing the things that made them attractive to each other in the first place, and again, I'm not talking superficially, I mean through their actions, through their uh beliefs, through their communication. These are things that, if a woman appreciated that you were working hard and advancing through your job when you were in your 20s, what makes you think she's not going to appreciate that in your 50s?
Speaker 1:Well, I think it's more than that, because I think there are a lot of people who, of course, I'm oversimplifying. Yeah, I think there are a lot of people who don't change the way they work, don't change who they are, but still end up in divorce. I think a lot of it is that we've totally changed the incentive for women. Yeah, you know, women don't need to be married anymore to be considered correct, just fine, and dandy and everything else, and it's, it's, it's problematic they don't need to be married for financial reasons either uh, I mean, I think most of them do uh, well, sure it's.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know. Well, I'm so. See, this is biased. The problem is, I have a lot of friends that are politically like you and I whose wives don't work. But, through people that are more acquaintances than friends that might have more typical political leanings, all their wives work and they don't work because, like, they need the money for the family. The guy earns the money for the family, the woman earns the money for the woman. So even even if they're um, you know, even if they're married, they're still wanting to go out there and make money for themselves.
Speaker 1:Well, but okay, the only female billionaires are that way because of being products of divorce.
Speaker 2:Or kids. Yeah, Because the Walton family there's a lot of girls that all inherited the Walmart money. Yeah, okay uh, they're in the top 20 billionaires. There's like three girls.
Speaker 1:That's inheritance, it's the same thing, yeah, so yeah yeah, there's what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Is there's not a whole lot of self-made billionaire women? There are none I haven't looked at the list, so I I'm not going to say none, but I would say probably very few yeah, well, you know the joke is how.
Speaker 1:How can a woman help make you a millionaire? Start out as a billionaire that's, I think.
Speaker 2:I have heard that that is a pretty good one well, I, I unfortunately.
Speaker 1:I think it's true, like I really do. I I think that we are at a place in our society where, unfortunately, in many ways, marriage has, for the modern male speaking as someone who's of that age marriage has become not worth it. You know, that's why we see the rise of MGTOW. It's not because men are just horrible and want to be alone. They don't, but what it comes down to is fuck. Why do I want to be involved in this? Yep.
Speaker 2:Yep, no, I absolutely agree, and I, you know, I kind of realized this after I got divorced is that you don't. I can get like 95 percent of what I was getting through being married without being married. Yeah, and I'll, yeah. Well, you can uh, the the 5% that's remaining I can live without. So it's yeah, there is less reason to it depends.
Speaker 1:So, like I personally, just companionship and everything else is you know to me why you want to be married?
Speaker 2:But the companionship with a backstabber is worse than no companionship agreed.
Speaker 1:And that's the problem, because the day you get married it's going to be like uh, these incels uh, yeah, no, um, you know, voluntary, but absolutely plenty of times, uh, but uh, not involuntary.
Speaker 2:But the point is, if, if you look at the, if you take it for what it is. If, if you say I'm going to get married because I want to have kids and you don't have the, well, my wife to be is the one exception in a billion people that actually won't be a backstabber. Okay. So if she actually is, congratulations, you got your you know diamonds one in a billion. But odds are statistically that she will become a backstabber and she will divorce you and, uh, and she's going to try and make that period in your life the most painful that she can possibly make for you if you have kids, which is generally a big reason people get married she will leverage those kids to twist the knife in harder.
Speaker 2:I've seen this over and over with an awful lot of my friends that have gone through divorces, where their wives go from just being, you know, fairly normal, not not I. I mean I I would say most guys that are married before they get divorced. I don't really see anything that jumps out about their wives as being like a big precursor, is like, oh my God, she's going to be horrible. They're just like whatever you know. They may be commenting about things you're doing that they dislike, but they all do that. You know nothing, know nothing, nothing big. But the minute that divorce becomes imminent, holy shit, it's like you're, you're at war.
Speaker 2:There is no, uh, peaceful, happy divorce, um I have yet to see one I yeah, I mean I had one, relatively speaking, but there was two main factors there One, we didn't have kids and two, I had divorce insurance.
Speaker 1:Let me rephrase I have seen peaceful divorces between two adults that don't have kids.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kids, yeah, yeah, if kids are involved.
Speaker 2:I have yet to see it be yep, you know any, any, yeah, and like sort of, there's no, there's no reason to use the kids to do that. There's no. If you're getting divorced and you've accepted the fact that this marriage is not going to stay together, the rational thing would be to move on off the marriage as quickly as possible, not to focus on hurting the other person, but to make it as quick as possible for both of you to move on with your lives. That would be the rational thing to do.
Speaker 2:The problem is that divorce quite often and both for men and women, but I think predominantly for women turns into an opportunity for revenge. So it's not just that clearly we went in different directions. We're going to part ways and hopefully we'll find something better later. It's not like, hey, good luck to you. It's more of you stole a decade of my life, you son of a bitch or you bitch whichever, and I'm going to make you pay for stealing that decade of my life well, and speaking from the male perspective, there's also just the you want half of what why you?
Speaker 1:didn't earn a damn thing of it. In fact, everything I earned was in spite of you yeah, yeah, that's honestly.
Speaker 2:That's very often the case, but unless you were smart enough to do a prenup ahead of time, which most men are not, prenups generally only get used on second and third marriages, not on the first marriage yeah, and there's always the enforceability aspect of it and everything else. No, that's bullshit. Prenups are very enforceable, it's just a matter of it depends on the prenup. It does depend on the prenup. Absolutely Don't go to a website where you can download a free prenup.
Speaker 1:And make sure they have representation.
Speaker 2:Use an actual lawyer and uh yeah, you actually have to have two lawyers.
Speaker 1:They have to have a lawyer representing them. You have to have a lawyer representing you yes, well why would? You get married without having lawyers.
Speaker 2:I don't understand that this is gonna be at your wedding if not for lawyers anyway. The the point is that marriage, I think, is it's one of those things, at least in the us now, in current day and time, that has multiple, uh meanings. Part of it is kind of drawn from the past and we still call it marriage and we still have a big wedding and we celebrate the union of two people and we'd still talk about till death do us part. But that's almost like a little play acting. It's not really reality because realistically, speaking made no fault divorce ubiquitous.
Speaker 1:Like in no, no fault divorce should not exist the 19th shouldn't exist. That's what shouldn't I agree and I think the definition of abuse should still be unprovoked physical violence what's your point?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, uh. So uh, did you hear that all ban? Okay, well, I got another topic right.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, if you if you're, if you're, if you're separated, getting a divorce going through some rough times and you try to control your wife's spending. Good luck. It's considered financial abuse today. Yeah, because you're you know it doesn't matter what. Whatever it's financial abuse. So heaven help you if you have credit cards with any limits.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, did I tell you I called the cops on my ex-wife when just shy of us getting a divorce.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so this is actually kind of funny. Yeah, yeah, so this, this is actually kind of funny, uh, so I had kind of come to terms to the idea that we were getting divorced, uh, and we were still living together. But, um, you know, I saw the inevitability of it on the wall, we talked about it and I think she was really enjoying the fact that I was really distressed about the fact, because I, you know, I always wanted to just be married forever.
Speaker 1:Right, and I don't know anyone who goes into a marriage thinking it's a temporary arrangement.
Speaker 2:Well, that would be the smart thing to do. I really should have thought of it that way. Larry David has a great episode on this topic, but anyway, so as part of that process of moving on, if you will, I started going out and looking for condos, because if I'm going to be divorced, I'm going to be living in the more hip-happening kind of part of town, so I started looking around places in Dallas You're going to be where you can pull some wool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I need to be closer to action. And so, uh, you know, I I came home, I was pretty in a good mood. I brought a bunch of brochures of these places I'm looking at. To move to, the lease on her Mercedes was going to be up in just a few months. That would be a payment off my back so I could maybe spruce up, get a better car for myself. And, yeah, I was starting to look forward to actually not having to pay for somebody. And apparently she didn't like that, because the next morning when I came down to the kitchen I saw that our wedding album was all torn up and in the trash bin okay I said, oh, whoa, who?
Speaker 2:who told you you could be tearing up our community property? There's a non-destructive order here. And she started being a bitch and so I was like, okay, I'm just going to call the police and let them decide who's in the wrong. So I called the cops. So the cops show up. First thing they say do you have any guns in the house? I'm like, uh, in every room.
Speaker 1:Yes, fuck off.
Speaker 2:We both have guns in every room. Okay, so that's going to be a fun time for you guys. But these were cool, these were Dallas cops. They were. I don't think they were thinking there was any real danger in our neighborhood, and so they're like okay, so, yeah, just make sure that no, no guns are near anybody's hands while we're here. Um, and then they took. They one of the cops talked to me upstairs, and then one of the cops talked to her downstairs, and then I explained the situation to them and I said look, you know we're proceeding with a divorce, everything's hunky-dory, but somebody needs to explain to her because she's not listening to me that she can't be destroying community property. I can't be doing that, but neither can she, and it's going to cost me probably 500 bucks to replace that album you know, were you going to replace that out?
Speaker 2:of course not but it doesn't matter, it's irrelevant. She can't be destroying community property. We can decide like well, who wants those photos in that album and maybe who gets them can rip them apart. At that point who cares? The point is, you can't be doing that. She can't be destroying, you know, dishes that my mom gave me, or something like you have to leave things alone until the divorce unfortunately and the the cops uh, explain that to her.
Speaker 2:And and she was shocked that the police are taking my side on this and they're like, yeah, if we get another call that you're destroying community property, we're going to take you, we're going to take you in. And that scared her and that was good. So after that she was like you know she was. She realized it's not me that she's trying to piss off. She's going to have a price that she pays for this, not just, you know, making me unhappy.
Speaker 1:But you know, a buddy of mine I recently found out, he went through a divorce and he kind of did it pretty quietly and it kind of shocked me, but he ended up with custody of his kids. Oh, wow, and the way he did. It was to me a total bitch move, but he provoked her into violence.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:She hit him, yep. He went in the bedroom and called the cops on her. Good, I guess, I don't know. Yep no, if you want the kids, that's exactly what you gotta do, well, I mean, and here's the thing you know, the the male does not have equal rights to kids no not in texas, you not in any state. You literally have to prove that they are an unfit mother to get custody, which is just insane all their children.
Speaker 2:They were out working and then they went drinking at bars and hanging out with friends and then came home when their kids were already in bed and they would pat them on the head or kiss them and that'd be the only time they'd see a mother in weekends. And at that point in time I think it was a standard practice in the US court system that mother is the caregiver court system that mother is the caregiver. That unfortunately has remained, and plenty of men, including, you know, like the guy that you probably saw on Tim Pool a couple years back and he and I talk on X occasionally in posts that lives here in Dallas, whose wife decided after getting divorced california that the, the boy, should be a girl yeah and you know his battle with that and it's like there is.
Speaker 2:He was fully capable of being the caretaker for the kid. You know he's making good money. He had certainly an interest in doing it, but the court system here said nope, mother is the default caregiver.
Speaker 1:Well, and one of the things that's really screwed up about that is, the courts will literally ask the father well, if you're going to be working, what are you going to do with the kid? Okay, well, if she's going to be working, what's she going to do with the kid?
Speaker 2:Why is that not an equal question?
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I, and I think the presumption there, why is?
Speaker 2:that not an equal question?
Speaker 1:yeah, well, I, and I think the presumption there, she's not going to be working, she's going to be living off the money you're paying for alimony well texas doesn't have that well, after 10 years, texas has some spousal support, but it's considered a temporary bridge measure, measure to allow them to get back to being able to earn income. Yada, yada, yada yada.
Speaker 2:Yeah, somebody is watching a video of.
Speaker 1:I got a couple more years before that kicks in. Well, there you go. Not that I'm watching the clock.
Speaker 2:I was going to say oh, the video of the guy, the Bitcoin dude, whose daughter made a video and called him a deadbeat dad who did breakdancing. I don't know if you saw that video. I think a lot of people have. He kind of got a lot of airplay so she made this like TikTok about how her dad was like a deadbeat dad. Then he disappeared. He left the family to go become a breakdancer.
Speaker 2:Well, the reality turned out to be completely different and the opposite of that, because the dad made a video and said look, I love my daughter, I wish her luck in getting viral videos. But here's the thing there's some gross inaccuracies in her video. For one, I paid her mother a total of $.9 million dollars. I was not a deadbeat, dead um. He also moved after getting divorced, three miles away, so he could be closer to the kids and see them every time that he had a legal availability to see them. And so he far cry from just getting up and leaving to go get milk at the grocery store and never coming back and then showing up on tv as a breakdown like, clearly the kid lied, but he was very nice about it. He's like look, I'm sure, to her like five-year-old self. It may have seemed like I left, but you know we were having issues with her, with her mom, well, and there's so many times that women.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, even if you have a standard custody order yeah, yeah they do everything to make it very difficult for the father to see the kids yeah.
Speaker 2:They use it for revenge, and the dad ends up just being checked out and giving up, which is sad for the kids. That's what I'm arguing for.
Speaker 1:How dare he do that? Well, I mean, at the same time, you can only take so much before you're just fucking done. You can only take so much before you're just fucking done.
Speaker 2:Well, you're wasting your life as a man if you don't do that, frankly, because you can have more kids and you can have them with a woman that you have a prenup with.
Speaker 1:That you will make sure you have access to, so you just abandon the kids you already have. Yes, you do. That is not a great option. This is nature.
Speaker 2:This is absolutely the option. This is nature.
Speaker 1:And again I've seen I've got one buddy. This is going to be a debate like our last three and a half hour show.
Speaker 2:I've seen. I've got one buddy that built up a company here in Austin to $20 million or so and had a couple of kids, a couple of daughters, you know, know, living the sort of the life you would expect. Got the the 6 000 square foot house, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and um in west lake hills fucking house dude.
Speaker 1:Nobody needs that much house, that's like I have a big enough house and it's. I don't need this much house no, nobody needs that.
Speaker 2:Point is he was doing all the stuff he thought was right given the circumstances. That he was doing for his family. Wife obviously wasn't working. And then, uh, wife becomes increasingly bitter, hostile towards him. You know, clearly something's up. And then she says, yeah, I want a divorce. You know you're, I don't like the way that you're acting and you know you're, it's always like you've changed. Well, no, he hasn't changed. He's been the same dude the whole time. And so she starts getting going through the divorce and she wants solo custody.
Speaker 1:And the fucked up thing is, even if you have changed, you probably change trying to make her happy yeah and stop doing things or change things about yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you haven't gotten any credit for it and you're fucking done trying to change yeah, not that I speak from experience so he starts going through divorce, his partners are like dude, uh, we don't want your wife getting hold of this company, we're gonna buy you out. You need to need to leave because you're not at work a lot, because you're dealing with all the stress of the divorce. You're not contributing and in case you do end up splitting the thing, she's going to get a chunk of it. So we're going to buy you out. The good news is we'll figure out a way to kind of structure it so you get paid more post divorce, so she's not getting the money from the sale any more than, uh, what the court decides right, so you minimizing what is going on there right.
Speaker 2:So anyway, he does that. So she's fighting them. On the access to the kids he's fighting. So he he gets a good chunk of cash. I think he got. I don't want to say exactly what he got, but let's just say in the millions, like multiples enough that he could live comfortably without working for quite a long time.
Speaker 2:And uh, but it's paid over time, it's not all in one chunk all right and um and then probably within a year or two within six months of initiating the divorce, so not even, certainly nowhere near, six months after the divorce was actually officiated by the court. He's in to his lawyer. He's already spent $250,000 on his lawyer. Yeah, $250,000 on his lawyer, yeah. And frankly I think it was like I don't think he had a very good lawyer because he was on the hook to pay his wife over 20 grand a month until the kids are 18. And the daughters were like 11 and nine, something like that.
Speaker 1:So for the do you know what the average cost of a divorce is in the state of texas? Uh, it's got to be at least 20 grand 20 grand is the average value of a divorce to a lawyer yep in the state of texas good thing I had insurance well, and you know that's, that's half of it, because that's what it? Costs you right, and if you're married and your wife didn't work, you have to pay for her lawyer exactly, yeah which is just insanity. Why is my money being used against me?
Speaker 2:yeah, well, that's because you're allowing women to vote. That's why, congratulations Well you know the old joke.
Speaker 1:Which one Women couldn't vote? We had to vote to see if women could vote. How the fuck did we lose that one?
Speaker 2:Well, we know how we lost that one. We actually have documentation of this. It is not at Simps.
Speaker 1:Well, in a way it was the prevalence.
Speaker 2:No, it prevalence that it was about total franchisement, not women's franchisement. No, no, no. There there are multiple documented articles in the newspapers during the suffragette movement, of women having rallies to get women to stop having sex with their husbands. They were using sex as a tool to get men to vote for uh suffrage, universal suffrage.
Speaker 1:I mean, okay, this is at a time where the rule of thumb was still in play, I believe. Uh, sorry, that was what now where you could legally beat your wife.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know. So if that's the case, I mean Like most men don't really want to be beating their wives, okay, no no one, all right.
Speaker 1:first of all, no one wants to be beating anyone, unless you're antisocial and have some issues.
Speaker 2:I mean, there are BDSM clubs out there.
Speaker 1:Well, that's Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:It's a blanket statement man. You're making blanket statements today.
Speaker 1:You're taking it to the wrong place.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just saying Maybe I've had more exposure to people, that's all.
Speaker 1:No, no, you haven't. It's just. I was thinking in a different vein than you know, consensual stuff, and never mind I. I'm done with that point, moving on. So, by the way, have you watched the? Uh? Have you watched the olympics at all?
Speaker 2:no, just clips have you watched the uh? Have you watched the olympics at all?
Speaker 1:no, just clips. Have you watched the uh intro, the this opening ceremony?
Speaker 2:oh, yeah, didn't we talk about that last week?
Speaker 1:did we? I don't think. I think so. I thought we did. Okay, did you see the pole vaulting?
Speaker 2:uh, yes, that dude has a future in porn, that's all I can say.
Speaker 1:Well, he certainly won't be hurting for any dates.
Speaker 2:That's like a nine inches without an erection right there. I mean Jesus Christ. You saw that thing bounce. He might have been erect. You think he was erect-pulting?
Speaker 1:I mean I might be turned on by it Like I'm about to win the gold. I'm about to win the gold, ah, fuck it. You remember the old Robin Williams skit about the luge right? Uh-oh, about your boner flapping costing us the two hundredths of a second.
Speaker 2:So take that shit down. Oh, jesus Christ, robin Williams had a joke about that. That's what I thought of when I saw this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, by the way for those who don't know, this guy was pole vaulting and he cleared the pole. He was over, he was coming down and his manhood was sticking out far enough that that's what caught on the bar and knocked it off and disqualified him. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's sad.
Speaker 2:That's sad, yeah, yeah, but like you said, I guess he does have a silver lining. Like you said, not going to be looking for any dates, he's going to be surrounded.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So now something else I was going to mention. Did you see that conversation? The?
Speaker 1:sin. They had a massive rainstorm no I didn't right before the triathlon did not see it. Yeah, so the the river got uh, some sewage overflow into it and they still had them swim. And the swimmers were literally throwing up afterwards.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's horrible. Dude, I would be a lawsuit, I mean you have no idea what you were just exposed to that chick that had to fight a dude. That should be a lawsuit too the boxing.
Speaker 1:I don't know how I feel about it, so part of me is very much okay. Look, if you want to have a trans league, go find go have a trans league. Yeah, If a woman wants to fight a man, fine which she did. She knowingly went into that ring and willingly did this and then afterwards said I wish her well and want her to win. Okay.
Speaker 2:Well then, don't bitch about it like if that's your attitude, I don't want to hear it and say goodbye to all women's sports and men's domination will continue yeah, and I've said before too that you know, I don't see a problem with just having a universal league for people that want to participate in that, which would surprise me if any women do. But you know, if they want to, that's fine. Um, and that's just like. And there are sports like, for example, uh, pistol shooting, 22 caliber pistol, yep, why it makes no difference if it's a man or a woman, in fact, women in it makes no difference if it's a man or a woman, in fact women. In my experience, as somebody that was firearms instructor and work with men and men, women who are untrained tend to do better than men who are untrained, because women pick it up uh quicker for sure, well they do, but they they also.
Speaker 2:well they get tired quicker. So that's a downside. But they have easier fine motor muscle control. Men tend to do the big muscle control. Women are better at fine muscle control and so when it comes to holding a gun and getting a tighter group without a whole lot of practice, typically women do better in that I, I actually think it's.
Speaker 1:It's the bell curve, so women tend to bunch up in the average, men fall to the extremes. That's why you have more male idiots and more male savants right, yes, you've said this before okay, well I, but I think that may be true here as well the higher male variability hypothesis may come into effect. So you're running up against, you know? Uh, because when you look at the best shooters in the world, uh, gary mecklick, right yeah, his daughter's pretty good too yes, she is, yes, she is.
Speaker 1:She's certainly better than I am. I 100 yep. Anyway, the the uh, paris is on fire and uh, you know, right across the channel, if you go look at the uk, man, the uk is having a hard time he's on fire as well yeah, I think I I the amount of uk x posts I've seen uh about you, where's my armor light and shit like that is pretty interesting. Yeah. Like referencing. You know the troubles.
Speaker 2:And there's.
Speaker 1:This would not be confined to Ireland at this point and while this is happening, there is Sorry. You got some stuff going on in the background, yeah, tina's pinging me here um tell tina you're doing a show. I know that's like I'm doing. No, she's married to a podcaster. She should know what this is doing a podcast.
Speaker 2:We'll text later. There we go anyway. Um, I I think that there's a. I saw a video that, while all this is happening in the uk, there's a another demonstration, a call for uh, sharia to be implemented in the uk, which is great you saw the uh machete attack right?
Speaker 1:yes, yeah so that kid is kid that. That young man is, uh, a few day at the time of that attack, was a few days short of 18 and, as a result, they are going to try, they are going to proceed as if he were a minor, which, in the us, would typically go the other direction.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, yeah, uh, and I I think that there's a precedent in the U S to charge minors as adults If the crime is heinous enough.
Speaker 1:Yes, regardless of age. Yeah, yeah. So you know you know, uh, all I can say is the I dude latin america's burning europe is burning or swimming in shit. I, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I I think we're at a season of revolution yeah, and I and I got a, got a message from a guy that I know in the security industry that deals with a lot of federal stuff, uh showing um that our, our nuclear communications planes have been in the air now for the last uh week or so yeah, I mean it's not that unusual yeah, but it's unusual enough well, I mean, I've got a friend of mine who lives right outside of norad.
Speaker 1:Uh, he can see cheyenne mountain from his house, sort, of thing, and the doors have been closed on cheyenne mountain for quite a while now. So this is. We've been, you know we've been edging towards that quite a bit yeah, but you always just reminds me of Stargate yeah, well, I you know it's also where you know NORAD is. So I don, so I don't know the reference necessarily.
Speaker 2:Oh, you've never watched Stargate.
Speaker 1:Oh, of course I've watched Stargate.
Speaker 2:Did you forget where they're?
Speaker 1:located.
Speaker 2:No, I haven't forgotten where they were located Gene.
Speaker 1:But I'm pointing out actual, real stuff versus you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I get it, but so am I. The point is that our communication with our submarines happens via these aircraft. So the fact that we're getting ready for nuclear war a few months before the election is very telling. I think the I'd be curious to see what the odds are in Vegas right now in the nuclear war pre-election.
Speaker 1:I'd be curious to see what the odds are in vegas right now in the nuclear war pre-election uh well I don't know and does somebody have to? Pay up for that or not, obviously, if war starts, probably not. Um, speaking of, you know, uh, hedging your bets, I was able to move. I closed my Coinbase account.
Speaker 2:I moved everything to ProtonWallet, by the way.
Speaker 1:And that went smooth. Into what ProtonWallet?
Speaker 2:Oh, you did do Proton okay.
Speaker 1:Cool, I was the one who told you about it, remember, I know, I know I invited you.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you're testing it for all of the rest of us. That's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've got about. You know I don't have a ton in there, but I've moved.
Speaker 2:I have a hardware, key wallet thingy, so I haven't put it into Proton.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you heard about one of the attacks that happened there, right? No key companies got hacked and they published information and said hey, you know, some personal information may have been compromised. No one thought about it and then all of a sudden they got a free upgraded hardware token in the mail.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:And everybody moved. A lot of people moved their wallets on to said hardware token and, oh, your wallet's gone wow yeah, hmm well, I'm not finding the uh odds on nuclear war.
Speaker 2:For some reason I am seeing trump as uh four to five, kamala 11, 10-10 and Kennedy at 66-1.
Speaker 1:I almost went to a Kennedy rally yesterday.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:They had a local. Thing in. Bryan where the local Kennedy faction was giving away yard signs and a whole bunch of other stuff, but unfortunately Linux got in the way ah, okay I, I've been trying to upgrade the new linux mint. Upgrade to 22 is not smooth if you have any custom stuff going on like it fails, like I've had to restore two machines using time shift to go back.
Speaker 2:Why don't you just recompile a kernel?
Speaker 1:You don't know what you're talking about here, gene. Sure, I do.
Speaker 2:Just need to recompile a kernel and it'll work. Jesus Christ, it's a running gag. It's a running gag with Linux for about 20 years, for me, yeah yeah, coming from the BSD world, I have done a build world. Thank you, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:But no, the latest is not going to exist, just to explain it to other people.
Speaker 2:This was like the typical answer to any kind of Linux problem question that you would get on Reddit. It was like oh yeah, you would get on. Reddit is like oh yeah, all you got to do is this, this, and then just recompile the kernel. Every the, the, the at the end of any suggestion for Linux was and just recompile the kernel. So that's why I always like to say, well, that's an easy solution.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, anyway. So anyone looking to upgrade to Wilma Linux Mint 22 from 21.3. If you have any custom repositories, you have to remove those. You have to create a time shift, like there are several things that are going on and I don't know things that are going on and, uh, I don't know. On one machine I have an encrypted, uh hard drive and I was like, okay, is maybe part of the upgrade script not picking this up. And then I tried it on a different machine that isn't encrypted because it just stays here at the house and is just kind of a, you know, kitchen counter sort of machine, doesn't really do anything except browse the web.
Speaker 1:And that one failed as well. And I'm not the only one running into issues. But if you're running basically bone stock 21.3 to upgrade, you're fine.
Speaker 1:But if you have done anything like installed a different kernel because you want to play around with the motu stuff and you want a low latency kernel, good luck motherfucker you're in trouble so I I think the best bet at this point for me, uh, on some of those machines that I'm running mint on and I run mint because I can't stand Ubuntu, but I like the driver support from Ubuntu. So, hence why Mint, and Linux Mint also supports VMware, rather supports Linux Mint. So I just run a lot of guests, but regardless, I think I'm going to have to re--image my laptops, which isn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 1:but you know, yeah, well, I'll tell you this much re-imaging linux and reinstalling on a modern linux build, with the way you can export packages and everything and just basically script everything to re-import your home directory and, you know, reinstall your apps and everything else is a hell of a lot easier than Windows is these days, especially if you want to try and get around the Microsoft account. Windows 11 is terrible with the Microsoft account.
Speaker 2:You mean the having to log into Microsoft.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you want to use a local account. It's a pain in the ass, you literally have to disconnect from the internet during the install to be able to install without a Microsoft account at this point.
Speaker 2:I kind of actually find it convenient to have the Microsoft account, because then I don't have to punch in a Windows key, it just pulls it up automatically.
Speaker 1:Okay, there's a problem, though I mean okay, yeah, look, there are pros and cons to using a Microsoft account on Windows. I get it, but I just prefer a local account. I don't want my internet access to be required.
Speaker 2:I don't use the. I just, you know, I have a Windows account and I use that account to install Windows, but I use then create a local account for actually logging in. Okay logging in. Okay so that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's just that convenience thing okay uh, so what else you want to talk about?
Speaker 2:I'm trying to remember what the hell because I was gonna say, and after this topic I want to bring up, and I'm trying to remember what it was that I wanted to bring up and I'm not seconds. There there's a lot of videos of athletes in their scantily clad kind of uniforms. Oh, I've seen this one too. Yeah, yeah, where it goes into.
Speaker 1:That's where you hope it wins.
Speaker 2:I see now it's like holy shit, yeah. But there's a lot of them floating around and I will say that the uniforms in this Olympics they definitely look French. Oh yeah. Well, I mean, they don't leave much to the imagination.
Speaker 1:Well, you saw the swimmers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's literally what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, it's an easy way of identifying who's trans or not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's more than that image that I'm talking about, but yes, yes. That was good what you're referring to is the swimsuit that had fine text right on the crotch area. And what did that text?
Speaker 1:say no, no, no, no, I wasn't even referring to that one, but I have seen that one.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:I was referring to the one where she's upside down got her legs split.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, the. That's definitely a check.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no two ways about that yeah, well, or you know, the, the twig and berries are now gone. So did you see uh? Did you see uh, joe rogan's new comedy special?
Speaker 2:I just saw clips is it? Is it up somewhere, like the whole thing?
Speaker 1:And don't say Netflix.
Speaker 2:Fuck. No, I don't watch Pedoflix. No, I have not seen it.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't think Joe Rogan's a pedophile.
Speaker 2:He's on the Pedophile Channel.
Speaker 1:Okay. Do you want me to loan you a login, Gene? No, no.
Speaker 2:I have no interest in watching anything on Netflix. Do you want me to loan you a login, gene? No, no, I have no interest in watching anything on Netflix. No, I'm okay with staying off the Pedo Network.
Speaker 1:Do you want me to share you a torrent link, Gene?
Speaker 2:No, I don't do that. You're thinking of my other co-host and my other podcast. He does that.
Speaker 1:I have totally sent Darren an invite to invite him to our channel in the past.
Speaker 2:Have you. Yeah, okay, yeah, I, I just don't, I'm not interested, I don't need to. I'm sure I'll see his clips of the most interesting bits from there but I don't need to watch.
Speaker 1:His opening bit is hilarious.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it'll be up somewhere.
Speaker 1:The opening joke you'll get a kick out of. We lost a lot of good people to COVID and most of them are still alive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw that already. That was good too. And I believe, after COVID, I don't believe we landed on the moon, yeah okay, well, apparently I did see it because I've seen all the stuff you're describing but yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1:No, it was, it was good it was good.
Speaker 2:There's another guy that came out that was in town, that did a comedy special at joe's nightclub. That was pretty good and I was like, oh, I wouldn't mind seeing him live. But I remembered last time I looked, uh at getting tickets to joe's nightclub. Two things popped out at me. One was over two hundred dollars a ticket uh, fuck that. And two typically unavailable for any sooner than about two months ahead of time well, we should plan a thing and go do a thing.
Speaker 2:Nah, I'm not going to pay $200 to go to that nightclub. Fuck that, don't need to. I'd rather spend $200 at the gun range.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's easy.
Speaker 2:It may be easy, but it's a preference. I enjoy comedy. I do not place that much value on entertainment. Comedies, movies, you name it. Things are there to just amuse me. They do not warrant that high a price tag.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it depends on who you're going to see, though, also.
Speaker 2:Except for, like truck, steering wheels. Those do, but everything else does not. Well, and pedals, of course.
Speaker 1:How much do you spend on video games a year?
Speaker 2:It's technically an investment, because I do a little bit of Twitch every year and so my video game production company can write that stuff off uh-huh so at.
Speaker 1:Ron white will be at the mothership on the 7th and his tickets are going for 55 to 65 dollars wow, apparently nobody wants to see him.
Speaker 2:Who's's Ron White?
Speaker 1:You're joking.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Gene, you're hurting my heart. I love Ron White. You don't remember the old joke they call me tater salad.
Speaker 2:Nope, who is he?
Speaker 1:He's a very funny comedian that I think you would probably like. So, you have videos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ron White Comedian, okay, best known as a cigar smoker, scotch drinker. Yeah, he's your kind of guy Blue collar comedy.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Has two Grammy nominations. Yep, that's. Ron. I don't think I've ever seen him how.
Speaker 1:Nope, did you like Mitch H head bird back in the day? I don't know who that is. Oh jesus christ, gene, you are not a stand-up fan I'm not.
Speaker 2:No, I'm really not.
Speaker 1:I don't think most stand-up is very funny oh my god, I love stand-up, like I, I love stand-up.
Speaker 2:Like I think good stand-up. Well, let me rephrase it I think stand-up worth watching is only good stand-up, and good stand-up represents a very small percentage of all stand-up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Sean Patton, which I don't know headlines, is the fat man. His tickets are up and his tickets are $45. Tickets are 45 to 55, so I don't know what you were saying.
Speaker 2:That was 200 bucks, but somebody that actually I'd heard of.
Speaker 1:They were 200 bucks well, I don't know how you haven't heard of ron white, I think it was that.
Speaker 2:What's his name? That guy that segura, tom segura or somebody segura?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, maybe, yeah, but ron white's hilarious man, I think you'd like him.
Speaker 2:Sure, but you know, I don't mind. Is he on Netflix too, then?
Speaker 1:I don't know where his specials are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can watch the ones on HBO. I've got HBO, I just don't have Netflix.
Speaker 1:Well, go look up and see if Ron White has any on HBO.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because I bet he does.
Speaker 2:Let's find out. I mean, it looks like he's been doing stuff for a while.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Ron White's Spend Up Specials. This is super interesting, interesting entertainment for people. Listening is me looking up I mean so when some old comic no divorce talk was very interesting, a lot of people said they liked that? Who? Who's messaging you while we're not live? Yes, exactly, uh, so uh, I see that he has specials, including filmed here in austin, uh, but it doesn't say what channel they're on, so I'll have to investigate that all right, well, your job after we get off here, which I guess we're going to here pretty quick, but uh it's to find a gun range near Taylor and let's go get some barbecue and go shoot.
Speaker 2:All right, I'll take a look at Taylor and see what's available out there. I think didn't I go to a cop shop in Taylor once or something? I?
Speaker 1:don't know. I've never looked for anything out there.
Speaker 2:Oh, dmv. I went to the DMV at Taylor, remember I told you that story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I told you to get some barbecue then, apparently, you didn't listen.
Speaker 2:I must not have listened to you, then it's a shocker. It's a Sorry. What Shocker. Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Jesus, see, I make myself laugh. Who needs to go to a comedy store? Yeah, see I make myself laugh. Who needs to go to a comedy store? Yeah shit, I'm pissed that I can't. I'm sure as soon as we stop recording I'll remember what that other thing that I was going to bring up that was totally relevant was that I shouldn't have held back. I should have just interrupted you and then talked about it. Oh well, oh well, oh well, say la vie um you. You don't have anything else on other topics.
Speaker 1:I mean, I tried to talk about kamala. You kind of moved me off that tried to talk about.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know we talked about kamala. How much do you want to talk about kamala?
Speaker 1:well, I mean, I don't really want to talk about her at all, but I think she is the you know democratic nominee at this point yeah, and what?
Speaker 2:what do you think? Uh her chance sir?
Speaker 1:uh, so it'll be interesting. There is literally she's setting all these records on donations and everything else there's polling swings, that's going on, but I think a lot of the donations are actually donations that had stopped to the DNC during the cruft with Joe trying to get him out. So if it maintains, then there's something there that we should pay attention to.
Speaker 2:But I I think this will be a brief spike and then it'll drop back to what it was so you've seen these videos of like white men recording themselves talking about how they're going to vote for kamala yes, I I've seen.
Speaker 1:Uh, I've seen the videos from the gays.
Speaker 2:And what do you think of my response to those of where does he work?
Speaker 1:I haven't seen any of your responses.
Speaker 2:Well, you probably blocked me.
Speaker 1:Figures I haven't blocked you. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:But I just think. Clearly these are all actors. There's nobody that's actually going to make a video talking about how much they like Kamala, because even the Democrats, including the ones that selected her, know that this is a sacrificial candidate.
Speaker 1:Do you think she is?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I really hope that that is the case.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is the case yeah, like I think I.
Speaker 1:I I mean, when we first talked about this, this, this was kind of my theory was.
Speaker 3:That's what I thought it was but man, I, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I can see him making a play. It's gonna I'm. I'm waiting to see who she picks as vp. Um, which, by way, how are they doing this nomination nod to have her on the ballot early, like that's the whole reason why they did this fucking call-in. But we don't know who the VP is going to be, so how is the VP going to be on the ballot?
Speaker 2:You'll be told one time.
Speaker 1:But do you not see the issue with this?
Speaker 2:What's the issue?
Speaker 1:issue with this. What's the issue? I mean ballot act the the vp candidate under kamala right now, since they're missing the deadline it just says kamala with the vp of kamala okay, I mean then, then they should not get ballot access.
Speaker 2:Well, that's un-American. Okay, I think this is the most likely scenario. I don't know what they're actually doing, so I don't know if this is a scenario, but the most likely scenario is they've done the number crunching. They determined that they don't have a candidate who can passably be installed Somebody like Biden, because Trump is polling so well. They've realized that they got caught last year, but thankfully for them, they got caught after the elections, not before the elections, so they managed to keep that one in.
Speaker 2:I think enough of them realize that if they try and just simply repeat what they did last time with the president, that there could be much more than January 6th happening Like there might be. The thing they're actually accusing people of doing last time might actually happen this time. So what is a much safer bet for them is to funnel money rather than to the presidential campaign. Funnel that money to state campaigns and if you have a majority in both the House and the Senate is what they're going to be focusing on. Then it doesn't matter what Trump does, because day one of the opening session of the House of Representatives, trump will have impeachment papers filed against him.
Speaker 1:Again. But do they want?
Speaker 2:But they've got both the House and the Senate. I mean, if they have the House, they'll JD Vance, but they've got both the House and the Senate. I mean, if they have the House and the Senate, they'll totally do that. They will file impeachment papers until he is forced out of office. Oof. Okay, maybe. So it's more important for the Democrats to get the House and Senate, and it's not hard for them to get the Senate, that's not how it traditionally works.
Speaker 1:Usually, down down ballot suffers. Like very other than you know, biden is the only president to win without down ballot success in modern history. Like usually, the presidency follows down ballot. Down ballot follows the presidency.
Speaker 2:I'm just telling you what would make sense if I was in there, because the alternative for them is to spend a bunch of money and really focus on somebody who is clearly inept and not believable, even if they rigged the election.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, if Kamala wins, this nation is done and everybody should focus on Texas.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. If Kamala, it'd be too late for that. If Kamala wins, I think that you will see what's happening in the UK right now. You'll see that in the US immediately.
Speaker 1:Say that again.
Speaker 2:If Kamala wins, you will see what is currently happening in the UK. You will see that happening in the us yeah, and I think again time for texas sure, I think it's going to be beyond time for texas. It'll be time to take over the.
Speaker 1:Actually, you know, the whole country yeah, you know I I saw a great breakdown about uh, if the confederacy a nation today, and just talking about the original states involved, it would be the third largest economy in the world, one of the 11th largest, like the 11th largest by either population or land size.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and biggest trader with the old states there as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Biggest traitor with the old states there as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But the point is, there is no reason for the United States to stay the contiguous nation. It has.
Speaker 1:I agree. I agree Thomas Jefferson and some of the other founders expected the United States to do. They didn't expect it to go beyond the 13 original colonies, maybe a couple extra, and then spawn sister nations westward. That's what they expected and for some reason we got this stupid idea of divine providence and we're going to do our westward expansion and become one large nation. And you know, realistically, the problem is when you look at, uh, you know congress and what congress represents. Well, you, you have a congress critter representing over a hundred thousand people. That's not representation.
Speaker 2:You, should listen to the last episode of Unrelenting where I was telling.
Speaker 1:Darren.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that guy Daryl, I was telling him about how really the problem that we're facing right now started when the Constitution was drafted, in fact, when the convention was drafted, so you're coming around to my line of thinking. I was telling him that this is clearly where it all started going wrong.
Speaker 1:We should be under the Articles of Confederation. Yeah, we'd be far better off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's well. Here's the thing. It's actually not a hard argument to make, because we know what happened being under the constitution, because we're here and we saw the path, at least, even though it didn't last as long under the articles confederation, so it would actually seem very reasonable and logical to say that, yeah, that probably would have been the better path yeah, I, I completely agree.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's my sentiment, and that's what I've been saying for years yeah yeah, yeah, no, I, I'm, I'm going along with it, I'm giving you full credit, but I'm going along with it, uh-huh, um because I didn't finish listening to it?
Speaker 1:because you know, y'all had some technical difficulties, but you did throw me under the bus on about our three and a half hour episode I mean, I didn't really throw you under the bus, I just had a.
Speaker 2:You know my take on it, that's a complete misrepresentation of mine.
Speaker 1:You're welcome to represent yourself. I don't, uh, I don't need to represent you. You can take care of that on your own.
Speaker 2:That was a good episode. I said it was a good episode. I said I enjoyed it that was a good episode. I said it was a good episode. I said I enjoyed it. Uh-huh, I think a lot of people did they?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't think we've gotten enough feedback well, we got any new donations, or we did get that one, we didn't, we got one yeah, and the thing that I rather like about people that donates to this podcast is it cut bills? They don't sound like you know a splash of sats once in the blue moon, like they do, to unrelenting uh-huh, because, uh, I know some people, darren included, really like getting that little bell ringing. When the sats coming in it was like, yay, somebody sent 57 cents. Woohoo, let's talk about them, let's not.
Speaker 2:But, you did mention, we did get another person and I was going to. You know, as usual, people don't tell us yeah, they don't tell us whether they want to be mentioned or not.
Speaker 1:But he's got a nickname up there, so we'll call him out Sir Schnoldus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so thanks for that. We appreciate it. It, as do we everybody that uh donates to this podcast uh, just a good old boys is a lot, a lot easier for us to do when we don't have to think about the additional costs involved to us personally in doing it other than time. Not that they're huge costs and not that we get many donations either.
Speaker 1:We get a total of five reoccurring donations right now, but five is good. They're covering the bills.
Speaker 2:So that's a good thing. Also and I mentioned this, I think, to you off the podcast, and I might as well mention it on here. So I've had some issues with the software I've been using for creating the podcast With Descript, with Descript. So I've actually stopped using it and I'm trying out using the tools that are built into our hosting provider, which is creating now both the summary as well as the chapters, as well as the transcript the summary as well as the chapters as well as the transcript. The only downside and it is I wish they would fix it, but it is what it is right now.
Speaker 1:Speaker one, speaker two.
Speaker 2:It's a speaker one, speaker two instead of our names and you know, I hope they eventually let me fill those names in and have it be the way that I've had it before. But it's such a minor downside compared to just having everything done by one company. Yeah. So I think we'll probably stick to this.
Speaker 1:Well, and you know we don't. I would say what we need more than anything is people hitting people in the mouth, spreading the word, and you know, if you enjoyed our three-hour and 15-minute episode on episode 77, spread it around get it out there. Listen to us kvetch and debate on whether tit-for-tat is the right methodology or actually holding to one's principles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think holding to one's principles could include two for that, so it makes total sense. It all depends what principles you want to hold to 75% of our downloads are on mobile. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I only download on mobile. 15% are on Podcast Addict. Yeah, that's shocking. That is far and away the most people are through podcast attic why is it shocking? Because that beats out apple podcast, even like oh really pretty impressive, I don't use apple podcast.
Speaker 2:I don't know anybody who does anymore.
Speaker 1:I mean people used to years ago okay there's so many choices now we're 40 percent, uh 34% Android, 15% unknown, 6% Windows computer and 1% unknown computer. That 1% has got to be CSB, the only other Linux user.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and there is a. Might as well call out CSB2 and just do a blanket thank you to him for sending money to other podcasts in which he promotes our podcast. Yes, that's a cool way of doing it, it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that is literally hitting people in the mouth because you're getting an audience that doesn't normally listen to us. You're getting something out in front of them and saying, hey, this is something you guys should really check out. So I mean, technically, we could both do that as well. We could send donations to other podcasts and then talk about our own on there, but it is kind of neat that CSB is just voluntarily doing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:It's good that he's gone out. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if we make it back to being a proper country, gene.
Speaker 2:It is interesting, or are we simply going to see a majority of the West stop being a proper country?
Speaker 1:Or is it just time to create our own country?
Speaker 2:Yeah and. I'm all for creating our own country. I just think it's going to be more difficult than I think you think.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think I don't know. Go look at the Catholics protesting in Northern Ireland right now.
Speaker 2:Dude, I got my own catholics. I'm talking to they're. They're ready to do it here. I I had a call last night from a catholic buddy of mine who was like you know, satan's getting rampant here. We got to do something yeah I'm like how about you elect a better pope? Let's start with that well, first of all, you don't like I know I'm being facetious, jesus christ I just don't get the whole, but it's the kind of thing I would say to a catholic you get that right. Yeah, yeah, I get okay.
Speaker 1:But okay, the I, and this may piss off the Catholics, but my God man, I would not want to be sitting on the throne of Christ in his stead when he comes back Like that is just such a presumptuous thing.
Speaker 2:Well, who's going to keep it warm what you want? Him sitting on a cold throne. Come on man. Okay, all right, anyway, don't you care about the comfort of God's only begotten son.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. I don't think I'm that worried about it since he was crucified. I think he's already gone through what he's going to go through.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, especially after a crucifixion, wouldn't you want him to be comfortable, you heartless bastard? All right. Just saying. Just saying, but no, it's. I think a lot of people are getting very like. People that were maybe a little nervous before are starting to think more in terms of like holy shit, I'm actually going to have to dip into the emergency food and water supplies, probably within the next three months well, you saw the jobs report uh, no, I didn't what's going on?
Speaker 1:oh, you should google jobs report real quick. Uh, it was a very weak jobs report that came out this last week and the uh, the stock market responded how you would think the stock market would respond. Not great. We are in correction territory for the stock market at this point.
Speaker 2:So a recession.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Oh, Bitcoin's down to 58.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean dude, when you look at groceries.
Speaker 2:Tesla down to 207. That's not good. Sorry, what I'm telling you. The entire economy is groceries. Tesla downs to a seven. That's not good. Sorry, what.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, the entire economy is teetering right now. Well, China's on the verge of civil war. We've got. I mean, the entire world is ripe for revolution or upheaval. The question is, is it going to be a communist revolution or is it going to be a return to principal values?
Speaker 2:It's probably going to be a communist revolution, or is it going to be a return to principal values?
Speaker 1:It's probably going to be a communist revolution. That is not a good thing.
Speaker 2:Have you seen the video that Antifa put out? No. Oh, I reposted it on X. You can check it out. It's a video.
Speaker 1:I want to go dig through your 100 posts. Why don't you send it to me?
Speaker 2:Okay, it's a song talking about Antifa coming back to Portland and they got all this shit to do and you know they're gonna kick, take names and kick ass and there's no stopping it. So it's a, it's a revolutionary war song. I would say, uh, done by Antifa about Portland and uh, what was the other thing? Oh, uh. I don't know the overall jobs numbers, but I did get the jobs numbers for truckers in the U S my peeps and uh, here's your revolutionary war song that we need to be paying attention to Uh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Um I'm listening to anyway lyrics of yeah, yeah, I'm listening to your peeps.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so there have been 30,000 trucking jobs lost in the last year. Yeah. So think about that 30,000 fewer people making deliveries in the United States.
Speaker 1:Well, and people need to realize in the US, truck driver is the literally number one job in the nation. Yeah, there are more truck drivers than any other profession. It's mostly independent workers, lots of things here and these truck drivers are you know. One of the big questions was okay, if the tesla truck becomes a reality and automated, uh, trucking becomes a thing that takes out these truckers, what impact is that going to have on society? Well, it looks like the economy, failing, is going to do that job on its own.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've said this for a long time If you start having impacts that focus on the basic survival mechanics of the nation, which would be the food supply, or the infrastructure, which trucking is one of the key infrastructure parts there it affects every single person in the country negatively, when food and or medicine and I will say medicine from personal experience. Right now I have two different drugs that I have active prescriptions for which I cannot get because they are backordered and have been for weeks at multiple drugstores Like they're just not available in Austin, so I have to fly to Mexico if I want to get them. I can't get them in this country, and these are not exotic drugs, they're just part of the diabetes drug regimen. So this is, I think, something we're going to start having to get used to, and it's looking an awful lot like Soviet Union times.
Speaker 1:And it's not just us, though.
Speaker 2:No, it's not just us.
Speaker 1:I just's not just us, I just care more about us. Oh, me too, but yeah and because the entire theme of the last few weeks, though, has been revolution across the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I remember what it was like back in the soviet days, where, when there's a line outside a store and this is presented as a joke but it's very close to the truth which is a guy gets in line, asks the guy in front of him or the gal in front of him. He's like what are we in line for, what's the line for? The other person answers you know, I think it's either shoes or grapefruit, I'm not sure. Uh, you know, I think it's either shoes or grapefruit, I'm not sure. Okay, so another guy is like oh, yeah, well, that either one would be great. And that's kind of what it's going to get to. Is that the availability of things isn't going to be like, oh, I can't get my favorite cereal. It's going to be like, oh, there might be a cereal truck showing up at the grocery store. We might be able to buy cereal today and you won't be able to get it for the next three weeks thereafter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and before anyone starts dipping into their food storage. Remember that is for when you are starving. You wait until the very last minute before you dip into that it reminds me to reorder desserts.
Speaker 2:Jesus christ, they're really good man, it's hard not to eat them oh yeah, you like that astronaut ice cream, huh no, it's, I dude. Their brownies are freaking amazing okay mountain house. We're talking about mountain house food, which I think is the best. I'm talking about mountain house. I think it's the best tasting of all the the uh emory type foods out there.
Speaker 1:That's not cheap none of it's cheap anymore. Yeah anymore.
Speaker 2:used to be, you could get cheap stuff, but it didn't taste very good. Now, even the stuff that doesn't taste very good, it's expensive, and I did pull up now before we wrap up the same topic. I did this. I sent them to Darren because we talked about it in the last show, but he said hey well, you do a lot of shopping online. Can you pull up your old grocery store shopping receipts?
Speaker 1:yeah, and I said yeah, I can do that so I did so.
Speaker 2:Here's an example cedars, tzatziki, tzatziki, tzatziki, cucumber, garlic dill flavored. This is from two years ago, so not one year ago. Two years ago I paid three dollars and eight cents. Two years ago, so not one year ago. Two years ago I paid $3 and 8 cents. Two years ago I got it last week for $5 and 70 cents. That's an increase of about 80%. Uh, what else we got? Uh, milk. Milk went up from three 69 to three 94,. Not a significant increase in two years. Let's see what else Applesauce two years ago $2.76 for a jar of 46 ounces. Last week, $3.52. So that's about a 35% increase in two years.
Speaker 1:Are you sure you don't have kids?
Speaker 2:no, I don't have kids.
Speaker 1:All right, I mean milk and applesauce.
Speaker 2:I just think you um heb texas heritage beef brisket, smoked sausage, 12 ounces. Uh, two years ago five dollars and 17 cents. Today five dollars 71,. Very little difference. So not everything has gone up crazy amounts of money. Sour cream 16 ounces, $1.68.
Speaker 1:Today, sour cream 16 ounces, $2.46. What has gone up, though, is the overall basket of goods, and you know, I don't know, man. I look at my grocery bills over the last year and we had more people living here because other kids were home and everything and just my energy bill never really got up over 300 bucks. Yeah, here in July and June I've already been over 450. Mm-hmm. And I'm looking, comparing, going what the hell. And the energy usage hasn't really significantly changed In.
Speaker 2:In fact, some of it's down from the previous year, but the overall cost is up. Yeah, I'm, I. I'm seeing literally the exact same thing here in austin. Uh, my, for almost a decade I've had had my electrical sewer water. It's all coming from Austin.
Speaker 2:All of that, the total that I was just paying a flat $300 a month every month. I wasn't on any kind of program, I just didn't really care what the bill was, I was just paying $300 year round because I figured that the average was slightly lower than that, and it was. So you know it. It was like in the summer the bills would be a little higher, in the winter they'd be a little lower. So I was doing that for 10 years. And after 10 years they sent me a thing saying hey, you owe $700. I'm like what? So I looked at it and, sure enough, by the beginning of this year or the end of last year, I don't remember the average price has gotten to a point where it is now $385. And so right now I am paying the $385, which is the average, plus like 60 or 70 bucks a month to cover the past due stuff every month. So what does that come out to?
Speaker 1:like 460, 470, something like that, and this is for a house with one person, so it's, uh, absolutely no two ways about it gone up by at least 25 or more uh, I remember gas prices were about two tan a gallon when trump left office yeah, and before they were also you know higher than that, but I mean the trump gas prices got down to damn near what they were when I was a teenager, like I remember now. I remember under a dollar gas back in.
Speaker 2:That's surprising, because I remember that for sure, but I didn't think you were old enough I took a lot of road trips with my parents as a child so yeah I think I never paid under a dollar I was the.
Speaker 1:The cheapest gas I remember paying as a 14-year-old with a driver's license was like $1.15, $1.20.
Speaker 2:Gas was a buck for a long time, between the late 90s and the mid-2000s or so, yep, but before that the cheapest gas I'd ever filled up with was in 1994. Uh, so it was maybe 93. Yeah, it was probably 93. So it was after the conclusion of the first golf war, when the gas prices all went back down. Um, and I filled up for 69 cents a gallon in Iowa. That was the cheapest I'd ever paid in my life.
Speaker 1:Well, swaths enough to you, sir. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Like before that the cheapest I'd remember was around 78, 79 cents a gallon right around there, yeah. So yeah, we are kind of at a point where three bucks a gallon feels the normal.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been the normal for shit.
Speaker 2:Four years.
Speaker 1:In my adult life, mm-hmm, you know there has been very little time in my life where we have been under, you know, $3 a gallon.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And that's in Texas where it's cheaper, you look at California has been over five bucks the whole time.
Speaker 1:Not just California. The Northeast man, you know, I was just in DC, not a week ago, yep, no, which, by the way, next week I'll be going to Mississippi.
Speaker 2:Oh fun, I guess.
Speaker 1:Where in Johnny Cashlong I'm going to Jackson, oh Jackson, mississippi. Nice, yeah, we're in. Uh, johnny cash long, I'm going to jackson, oh jackson mississippi nice, yeah, it's been.
Speaker 2:Uh, it's been a while since I've been in jackson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you have some good food down there how, what, what food are you thinking of in jackson?
Speaker 2:good southern food I guess.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think of good seafood in Biloxi, but I don't know about Jackson. I might be able to get some peanuts, some bowl of peanuts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but well, I don't know. I mean, I guess I haven't spent much time in your town to know if there's any good southern food places there.
Speaker 1:Well, what are you calling southern food? You mean soul food, or what are you? Yeah, soul food. Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know good kosher ham hocks and.
Speaker 1:Kosher ham hocks. Yeah, I did think it was funny when you were posting about the pig being the most magical animal in the world.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh Gene so Jewish, so not Jewish. Yep, yep, yep. It's one of those things where you have to understand the rationale. Being an atheist? I don't have to stick to any kind of dogma I can use my rational mind.
Speaker 1:I can use my rational mind. You know the dietary laws made sense for a long time because of foodborne illness and everything else. When you take that out and you just look at the religious dogma around it, I don't get it. But I don't get the Catholic dogmas as well, and I have a huge problem with Catholicism. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And if you just say, look, we wanted to have something unique for our religion and we decided that we're going to not eat meat on Fridays, Like okay, fine, so that's a rational choice based on just a unique factor? Really not. But okay, yeah, so that's a rational choice based on just a unique factor? Really not, but okay yeah, but that's my point is that's not why they do it right, well, and just the whole shit people do during Lent, where they, you know, give up stuff half-heartedly. Half-heartedly yeah, or Ramadan, for that matter.
Speaker 1:If you want to give shit up for Lent, give shit up for Lent, move on with your life.
Speaker 2:I was talking to my neighbor about Ramadan and he's a Muslim dude and I'm like, hey, next Ramadan let's both actually fast for real. He's like what do you mean for real? I'm like, you know, not eat at night, just actual fasting for a few weeks. And he's like, oh my God, I can't do that, why not? Yeah, have you tried.
Speaker 1:I mean, why can't?
Speaker 2:what's his rationale For not eating or for eating?
Speaker 1:For not eating.
Speaker 2:Well, well, he's Muslim.
Speaker 1:So you know they don't eat during the day in Ramadan.
Speaker 2:Right, but what's his rationale for not actually fasting? Oh well, because who could fast? I mean, it's bad enough not eating for 12 hours during the day. Okay, look, most Muslims don't actually fast for real, they just fast during daylight. It's mostly the standard accepted thing. It's a month of eating at night, is what it is. Okay. So I was kind of like trying to challenge him on, egg him on a little bit to actually do a real fast I.
Speaker 1:I've seen people do real fast, so that's new to me. I'm not used to the fake uh, oh god.
Speaker 2:most muslims are like that, if you look at, including in countries like Saudi Arabia. Okay, I believe you. Yep, all right, cool Enough. Let's wrap this puppy up, and I'm guaranteed I'm going to remember what that topic was as soon as we stop recording.
Speaker 1:But c'est la vie. You'll probably call me on the phone right after. We'll talk another hour, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's probably, that's just for our super patrons. Super patrons, we don't have any, so we can say that Not yet. Exactly All right, guys. We'll catch you all next week. See you next week, Ben.
Speaker 1:Gene, we'll catch you then.
