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Is the rise of narcissism a societal trend, or are we just more aware of it now? Let's kick off this episode by exploring the shift in parenting styles since the '90s and how social media might be turning us into self-promoters. We ponder the double-edged sword of the internet, which connects us to like-minded individuals while sometimes fostering dangerous ideologies. But don't worry, our podcast is all about building a community of thoughtful listeners without any narcissism involved!

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As we move on, get ready for some political intrigue and strategy talk. We'll dive into the latest buzz around Trump's cabinet appointments, featuring names like Matt Gaetz and Pete Hegseth. From the political chess game of recess appointments to debating the impact of candidates' backgrounds, we've got you covered. Plus, we'll touch on the lighter side of politics—think AOC, Tulsi's charisma, and Melania Trump's potential role as a part-time First Lady.

Finally, let's switch gears and talk geopolitics and tech wonders. We'll examine Ukraine's energy challenges amid ongoing conflict and discuss the complex dynamics of nuclear retaliation and multinational interests. Then, we'll journey into the cosmos with an incredible video game that replicates the Milky Way galaxy, before diving into the world of Bitcoin and its explosive growth. So buckle up for a whirlwind of topics, from combat sports to hybrid vehicles, all seasoned with humor and insight.

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Speaker 1:

Hey Ben, how are you doing? Well, gene yourself.

Speaker 2:

I'm all right, it's. What are we on Saturday?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a Saturday.

Speaker 2:

It's like a whole week just flew by.

Speaker 1:

Tell me about it. I was in DFW this week talking to airlines. That was interesting.

Speaker 2:

Met with some of the guys from Delta. Tell them how to do their business.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's some interesting stuff coming. So you know, the baggage screening process is really isolated right now, as in not network connected at all, and they're looking at connecting some of this, and it's just interesting.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a brilliant idea. So then we can actually have wholesale images of everybody's luggage for thieves to look through before they actually steal it great yeah, there's lots of things like that, but anyway, I, I had a, I had some good conversations, so it was good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I said I was was the last presentation of the day, okay, and I had my slides and everything, and I went through and listened to everybody else talk and heard a lot of bloviation and idiots and including a lot their lobbying firms and what the Trump administration is going to mean and everything else. And then you know, like any good speaker, I hide everything back into everything I heard throughout the day and said this is what I'm hearing from you. This is why this is a problem. It went well. Looks like I'll potentially be working with Delta Airlines as well.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, that's good, I can use the status there.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean yes, but I kind of don't think that's how it works.

Speaker 1:

Ah, come on, you can give me some upgrades.

Speaker 2:

Back in the day. That is totally how it worked. I mean, when I was doing a project for Target, I got a 5% discount on Target.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I don't think that's how it works for most places these days yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1:

I I gotta tell you I am I'm doing a mileage run are you first one?

Speaker 2:

I've done in forever, I uh I am forever, since I've done one yeah, I am short, just a little bit and I had a hundred dollar.

Speaker 1:

I had a hundred dollar credit from united. So I was like, screw it, I'll book a same day trip to dfw and back oh, yes, yes, yes, I've done one of those I've never done one. I've never done a same day trip. I've added legs, I've done stuff like that, never just done the.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I need literally two more flight segments this year I had one trip where I flew from fort worth to dfw uh, walked over to the hotel that's on site at the airport, the myriad checked in, turned around, walked back to the uh terminal to take the next flight back to houston. So I I did a mileage run in the hotel, run at the same time there you go there you go, I it's. I mean, normal people are like what the fuck? What are you? That's a waste of money. What are you doing?

Speaker 1:

it's costing me a whopping 80 bucks to do this because of the credit that I had and everything else, and it will save me so much headache and time for the next year, like it is totally worth me spending a day doing this. And you know, I've got friends at DFW so I'll schedule a lunch or something, and all that during the layover, so yeah, yeah, yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Very cool. So you've been watching any of the Trump appointment news.

Speaker 1:

I have, and I have some mixed feelings on some of them.

Speaker 2:

I've been laughing my ass off at the reactions of the libs and all of them. They hate everybody. He's proposing reactions of the libs and all of them, man, they hate everybody. He's proposing. There's literally like working committees now trying to make sure none of his picks actually go through the senate well, he will do recess appointments.

Speaker 1:

He's already outlined exactly how he's going to do that. I do think I've been teaching first I do think it's going to be interesting to see who gets through, who doesn't. And you know RFK Jr for HHS is huge. Like people don't understand.

Speaker 2:

HHS has a bigger budget than DoD. Kind of yeah, it does. But that actually includes Social Security.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, social Security is a, it's not a discretionary item it's it it's a has to be kind of thing yeah, there's lots of things around it, though, that are discretionary. Yeah, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just clarifying for people that want to argue about it yeah, yeah, well, anyway, uh, what do you think of matt gates as ag?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I like it. I've always liked matt gates. Um, I like people that are iconoclasts. I like people that. Do you want? Him out of the congress is the problem I think he would be so good as ag, though I mean it's it's, it's like getting a ken paxton type person in there which that name was floated as well it was, and I I even said on on x that you know I'd hate to lose him from texas, but it'd be good for the country.

Speaker 2:

Um, but I I like an AG that will not hesitate, unlike Trump's previous appointments, from going after all the people that broke laws on the Democrat side.

Speaker 1:

We'll see. I hope that is true.

Speaker 2:

I don't think he'll get confirmed. I think he's got way too many people that hate him, but I would love for him to be in there. Yeah, but he could be confirmed as a or go through the recess appointment I don't think trump's going to get to do that for more than one or two people, though I think he totally negotiations no, all he has to do is get the congress to uh, go to recess.

Speaker 1:

Which if one? So if he can get the house to say we want to go to recess and the senate says, no, we're not doing that, he can then force the recess as president. And as he forces the recess then he can put in as many people as he wants.

Speaker 2:

I love all the theories going around this.

Speaker 1:

It's not theory, it's reality.

Speaker 2:

It has been done in our history.

Speaker 2:

It ain't going to happen because Trump is a negotiator.

Speaker 2:

He'll be negotiating for things and not ramrodding them through, and so, even if we come up with these creative maneuvers to do it which, again, I would love if that happens I will say, though, that I think a lot of the people that Trump is proposing for these positions are going to be more willing than Trump himself to make enemies.

Speaker 2:

So I love the people that he's picked so far. Now I got to hear which one you don't like, though Mm-hmm, um but I also think that it's going to be more difficult than a lot of people that are celebrating Trump's victory think it's going to be. I think that there's a lot of people that are celebrating trump's victory think it's going to be. I think that there's a lot of shit that both the rhinos and the democrats can throw to slow the process down, to get in the way, to prevent him from doing what he wants um, not that he shouldn't try to get around all that obviously he should but I think a lot of people right now are overly jubilant at the victory and think that just because the people voted and gave them a mandate somehow means all the the swamp is going to be willing to play ball, and they're not.

Speaker 1:

Well, we'll see. I am very curious about the Marco Rubio appointment to Secretary of State.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That seems like the one why. But here's the thing If you think back to Rex Tillerson and how short-lived that was and how badly that went, I kind of wonder is this not a way of just getting Rubio out of the Senate?

Speaker 2:

Getting him out of the Senate, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because if he's out of the senate, trump fires him at will and that's a good point.

Speaker 2:

I haven't really paid attention a whole lot to what rubio's done lately, but tell me, tell me what's bad about him well, he just a warmonger. Uh, yeah, okay that's the main thing, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So he's been pro-Ukraine. Very. And here's the other thing he is a little Latin, Lindsey Graham right.

Speaker 3:

In a lot of ways.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's nice. He is obviously like quit hiding, right, it's okay, it's 2034. You can be gay, it's okay.

Speaker 2:

Right, right. I think that there's a certain amount of, uh, not coming out of the closet rhinos out there that are, um, I think they would be a lot happier if they did come out and maybe wouldn't be voting crazy like they are. Well, I think a lot of it is just over compensation. It's like, oh, I'm a big, strong warmonger man and that way people won't think I'm gay, you know, I mean yeah, yeah, well, you do realize that.

Speaker 1:

You heard what musk said. Right about anyone who poses uh trump's nominations in the senate. He has pledged money to primary them nice, I love it so elon musk has already come out and said you know, they will they will be investigating him for election tampering just by threatening to do that.

Speaker 2:

It's not election tampering it doesn't matter it's, it's, it doesn't matter, it's, it's all about court cases.

Speaker 1:

It depends on who gets it is.

Speaker 2:

How much Exactly this? Is why I love his Trump's nomination for AG because I think and Matt Gates, you remember he's been on on Tim's show several times. And he is not, like a, you know, a traditional conservative. He is perfectly co-sponsored bills with AOC.

Speaker 1:

He's. He's a libertarian.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Ultimately he's a libertarian with a little bit of a southern thing going on.

Speaker 1:

I don't know that I'd consider any part of Florida at this point southern, but OK.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think he does. I don't know where he's from originally actually, um, but I I definitely see a little bit of that Southern thing going on in him. But, um, I don't know. I mean I, like anybody that is a uh, not going to give a shit about trying to be fair and Gates Isn't going to give a shit about trying to be fair. And gates isn't going to give a shit about trying to be fair. He's gonna worry about what's good for the people and fuck everybody else yeah which cool, which is what we?

Speaker 1:

need about time right.

Speaker 2:

So, uh, what about tulsi? What do you think of? Uh, her in charge of uh, uh, the uh oh?

Speaker 1:

and I yeah, I think it's an upgrade her in charge of the O&I.

Speaker 2:

I think it's an upgrade. You mean upgrade for her or upgrade for the country.

Speaker 1:

For the country. You've got to remember I recently met with O&I. I think that there are some good people in O&I. I think there are some people who are. There are a couple people that are from industry that are in there that are trying to do the right thing in my mind and they have been blocked in a lot of ways. I think Tulsi getting in there if Trump goes in and cleans house the way that they're saying, you know Vivek and Elon are going to be heading up Doge If they go in and clean it up and you know ONI has a lot of control over pretty much all intelligence Right of control over pretty much all intelligence apparatus, right. So it's kind of an interesting move. Like putting her in as cia or nsa director would help that one agency, yeah, or?

Speaker 1:

no, this is a better way I think this is a broader move and that's what people need to realize. Can she be as effective as she would be in one agency? Maybe not, but she'll have a broader impact I think.

Speaker 2:

I think she actually would be better in this role than in one agency, because she's not going to get bogged down in the details the way that you would if you're just focused on one agency so I think she'll be able to be more high level, big picture stuff. And I mean I, you know, I, I, she was my favorite Democrat out of the bunch. I, I, obviously, I. I think AOC is the most hilarious Democrat, so I like having her. Well, let's be honest.

Speaker 1:

You find.

Speaker 2:

Tulsi hot. No, I do not find Tulsi hot, but both both tulsi and I, as you well know, are, uh, partly pacific islander americans and therefore, uh, you know, I kind of feel a kindred spirit with her and our ancestors how do you not find tulsi hot? Her face is a little too wide. I like chick. Wait, dude, you know what I like Like. I literally sent you a video.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I know the disturbing things you get when you're friends with pounds, the disturbing, disturbing text messages you get from how is that disturbing?

Speaker 2:

It's literally a video about Israel. How's that disturbing? Okay, a video about israel how is that disturbing?

Speaker 1:

uh, okay, uh huh, okay, anyway, I'm gonna leave it there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but no policy is not unattractive, just not my type, but I do like that whole. Like gray streak she's gotten going on like that superhero chick what was her name? Uh, the one that killed everybody she touched the one that like she kills everybody she touches. What was her name? Rogue rogue? She had one of those, like you know, hair streak thing is going on well, I I think.

Speaker 1:

I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I think it'll be fun to watch. I think if Marco gets out of line, if he doesn't follow the Trump agenda as Secretary of State, he will be gone, like Rex Tillerson was very early on, and then he won't be in the Senate because there will be an appointment Someone else.

Speaker 2:

Man, that would be like next level chest. If they're literally doing this to get like, hey, we've got a great appointment for you, and meanwhile they're like, OK, who are we getting to replace him? It's going to vote better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was struck on making sure that he can get recess appointments through, was you know, to the uh house majority, you know.

Speaker 3:

Uh, we'll take the speaker of the house we'll take matt gates out of your ass.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah exactly yeah, I could see that, but doesn't mean they're gonna live up to whatever promises they made.

Speaker 1:

Yeah that's the problem.

Speaker 2:

You can't trust any of these fuckers. I understand, but we will see Back in it as a politician. I'm sorry they're as crooked as a politician.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, indeed. Anyway, the appointments are going well. Did you see that Trump's meeting with Javier Millet today?

Speaker 2:

I did not.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, so Millet's in town now.

Speaker 2:

Or is Trump flying down there?

Speaker 1:

No, he's in town.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I mean in town meaning in country. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

He was walking into Trump Tower.

Speaker 2:

Okay, all right, nice. And is Trump Tower going to be the new White House then?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I think it would be much safer if he stuck to Mar-a-Lago personally, but you know hey, you heard what Melania said, right?

Speaker 2:

No, she's going to be a part-time first lady this time around. She's been through this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she doesn't look happy was pointed out to me.

Speaker 2:

No, she's like, you know, I'll be there when my husband's there. I'm not doing any of these ladies tease, bullshit things, so I think that's yeah. I mean again, it's like second run through for her. So she's got her. She kind of knows what to expect and not going into it blind. She kind of knows what to expect and not going into it blind. And I really I do think that, from everything I've seen, this is an introverted chick who really wanted, you know, a family life an expensive family life, granted, but a family life with the Donald. And uh, an expensive family life, granted, but a family life with the donald. And uh, I think she is really kind of not in her element with all the uh publicity well, I don't think she wanted to.

Speaker 3:

I've watched her husband get shot I think that's a big part of it.

Speaker 1:

I I think, her attitude. So it was pointed out to me that she didn't seem happy and I started looking back at photos and things what? When did this change, right? Yeah, and it sure seems to me that the big change was after the assassination attempt yeah yeah like okay, donald, this just got real fucking serious. Why are you doing this to our family? You?

Speaker 2:

know we do have a difference between men and women, because to a man, is anything that you can walk away from and survive as character and more you know, machismo to you. To women, it's like, well, maybe you should stop doing this well, he definitely.

Speaker 1:

I mean him standing up and yelling fight, fight, fight. That was the ballsiest thing I have seen and I think you would agree.

Speaker 2:

Well, absolutely Now, that was that. That is right there with the image of the flag in Iwo Jima. It is one of those moments, and the fact that we had a photographer perfectly time to capture it of course leads to all kinds of liberal conspiracy theories about how this was all planned all along and he was never actually shot.

Speaker 1:

But it did look the bullet pass close enough to him. There's no way he was in on it, even if it was a conspiracy theory of a fake assassination attempt, because no one in their right mind is going to allow someone to take a shot that is going to go within it from even that distance. It's going to go within a few feet of them when things can affect the trajectory of the round.

Speaker 2:

I bet you could probably stand still long enough.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm not not gonna let you do that. Yeah, about two feet.

Speaker 2:

No, I'll just graze your ear just slightly yeah, no, it's just not something I'm gonna do yeah, yeah. No, I think melania isn't happy. I mean, she's probably happy now that he's won um, partly because now he's gonna get the full secret service protection, not like three guys, and two chicks, the the protection he should have had all along obviously, obviously, I mean it is.

Speaker 2:

It is a disgrace that these agencies have allowed politics to dictate their actions. It is absolutely disgraceful, and it's true of a lot of agencies, um, and I'm sure you've seen, uh, there's, there's a bunch of discontent, people in the, in different agencies now, including NIH, that are saying, wow, if Trump's appointment gets in, we're all quitting. He'll have nobody left and no agency.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I was like, oh, no, that, yeah, not that.

Speaker 2:

So you're saying you're gonna do musk's job for him. Okay, great, and and to boot you're going to, are you? Canadian. Now no to boot. I said boot, not about boot.

Speaker 3:

I mean an actual boot.

Speaker 2:

And to boot. You've got the people that are going to do that are the most liberal ones, which you can't technically fire them just for their politics. You have to fire them for you know some other reason. But if they're going to self select and quit, well, holy shit, they just did you a favor.

Speaker 1:

Did you see the um? Did you see, uh, the new trend of women?

Speaker 2:

Oh, the uh, yes, the bald women, yes.

Speaker 1:

The bald, the bald head, and then the blue bands and tattoos. Yeah, yeah, yeah it's. It's nature healing dude it's self-selecting. I'm saying it, do not introduce me into the gene pool.

Speaker 2:

You know, I do believe, though I do believe that I do believe, had we never shut down the insane asylums, we would be living in a very different world right now, because a vast majority of these people are hypermedicated, because they don't belong in society. They belong in an environment where they can be better cared for, with padded walls well.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm going to say something that's a little controversial here, but I believe to be true. The problem we have is that I don't know about this we, we have a generation actually a couple generations now specifically of women and and men, but more on the female side that have grown up with zero fucking consequences to their decisions and, as a result, it doesn't matter how badly they behave. The law and society has backed them up to an extreme, and you know, I'm not saying that anyone should get physically hurt or anything like that, but what I am saying is, if you're fearful of consequences, if you recognize that there will be a consequence at some point in time, you, you adjust your behavior, and when there are no consequences and you can do whatever the hell you want, you don't adjust your behavior and, as a result, it ends up being a shit show, right?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's absolutely right. I don't think that's controversial. I think that that is a very sane perspective, in fact. Fact, I've been sharing videos of these people with your mom, so it's pretty funny. But, yeah, damn it, yeah, we send each other videos. Uh, yeah, but there there is at least two generations and I kind of feel like I think I've heard 1993 is when this changed Apparently, there was a few kids that were kidnapped or something happened that created a mass scare. Now, at this point I was in college, so I didn't even know about it. Frankly, when it was happening Totally didn't affect me. I was part of the growing up with having your own keys to the house and barely seeing your parents generation. But starting in like 93, it seemed like parents started to lock their kids down, be more helicoptery and, in general, put a big bubble, wrap bubble around their kids to isolate them from consequences, as you say, yeah, well, I mean, I'm that's it. I'm just saying I think 1993 was when this started so it is.

Speaker 2:

It is like at least two generations it will, regardless the.

Speaker 1:

The point here is that consequences have to exist for humans to regulate their behavior. If you don't have consequences to your behavior, yeah, you will not regulate it. It's that simple I agree.

Speaker 2:

It's lessons aren't going to be learned if there's nobody to actually implement the end result of that.

Speaker 1:

We do have some scenarios and issues that shouldn't exist the way they do exist the way they do, uh. But you know, hey, uh, what?

Speaker 3:

has happened.

Speaker 1:

Also that is really disturbing, to me at least, is the trend of, since we've gone, these generations of people who, uh, don't really have consequences. I, I think we have way more borderline personality disorder, way more how do I put this? Sociopaths not psychopaths, but sociopaths who just do not see any rules or any conventions as applying to them. And you know, I think this gets into the nature versus nurture debate, but what it comes down to is, I think, that there is a segment of the population that is now suffering from what I would call a mental disorder that could have potentially not had said mental disorder, had they been raised at least somewhat effectively yeah, and I think a short way of saying it is I I wouldn't really call that sociopaths.

Speaker 2:

I think what we do have is a narcissism epidemic. I think we have, instead of having like three percent of the population have overly narcissistic tendencies, I think we're at about 25 to 30 percent of the population right now where a lot of the activities that are prominent right now that you see, like, uh, all the uh social media crapola is all both bolstering those tendencies and is actually mainly appealing to people that already have those tendencies. It there's no, there's no reason for oversharing the way that people are oversharing right now, for oversharing the way that people are oversharing right now, um, unless you have that underlying narcissism, because, uh, a normal person does not get the endorphins from showing people what they ate for breakfast, like that doesn't that, that's just work. Having to stop eating, pull out your phone, take a video or a selfie, uh, and a picture of the food and then post all that Like that's unnecessary work with no actual benefit. But if you have a highly um, well, a very strong case of narcissistic, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. A highly well, a very strong case of narcissistic disorder. You actually don't see that as work. You see that as the thing you do that will generate a lot of endorphins. For you it's like a drug, and so that's kind of where we're at Now.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to pinpoint the cause of this. I don't know A lot of people, I think, could probably just put the finger on Facebook and says this this was caused by Facebook originally, but I think it started before Facebook, and certainly Facebook is only used by boomers at this point. So I don't know man, I don't know. Maybe it's, maybe it's just iphones, maybe it's everyone having social media in their pocket 24, 7, well, but something is seriously fucked up with american population I think there's something to the internet being a problem and evil in the sense that it the you know it's.

Speaker 1:

It's always a double edged sword, right? So you have a group, small group, of people who feel a very alone because they're very isolated. Yeah, and in the internet they find that community that they would not find in their community Otherwise. Yeah, internet they find that community that they would not find in their community otherwise.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And it performs a validation of your thought processes and everything else. Now I say this is double-edged sword for two reasons. One, I think that can be deviants that find that community, aka maps or trans or anything else that find that community, or a woman who thinks she should leave her husband because he voted for Trump or poison him or anything else that is going on right now. Stab them Right. These are not good things, but there are. There's also the good things. There's the community we have around this podcast. You know we don't have a ton of listeners, but the ones we have are pretty ardent and think like we do and that is a community.

Speaker 2:

and you know, if we weren't, if we didn't have the internet, we would feel very alone in our own community yeah, but this is a good, uh, a good thing to point out. A good element here to point out is that we are not doing this podcast for narcissistic reasons. We don't need to get recognition. We don't get recognition frankly. I mean, uh, generally, I don't have random messages from people that are listening telling me how great the show is or how much they like me. If anything, the messages I get are the same type that I would get from you and that most guys send to each other, which is a put down.

Speaker 1:

It's like oh, I see why the fuck are you doing it this way exactly?

Speaker 2:

oh, you were traveling, you should still take your moto or or like see, yeah, it seems to be as a perfect example, because you know he was. His comment to my doing YouTube videos, which I do want to talk about briefly as well is like, oh, you're still not doing shorts, what the hell's wrong with you? Shorts are what you need to be doing. Okay, that's not going to fulfill any kind of narcissistic requirements, right, when somebody's just kind of telling you you're doing stuff wrong.

Speaker 1:

You're doing it wrong. So I think we do it.

Speaker 2:

You're a bad Russian. Why are you doing it wrong? That's right. Bad Slav, bad Slav yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's like you're wearing it wrong, being a Russian is being a bad Slav, is it not?

Speaker 1:

I mean, these are synonyms in my mind.

Speaker 2:

Well in my mind. Well, yes and no. I mean, it was there if, from a stereotypical standpoint, absolutely, but keep in mind that the vast majority of russia is on the other side of the ural mountains and those people are not slavs okay that's well. So calling a slav and russian is not but the majority of the population gene well, Well, I mean yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean yeah. It is probably majority, but it's not a overwhelming majority. The eastern side of Russia hold on now it's pretty loosely populated yeah, the eastern side of Russia is not exactly the metropolitan area.

Speaker 2:

It's like Alaska.

Speaker 1:

It's less than Alaska. Siberia has jack shit in it other than resources.

Speaker 2:

You'd be surprised, because people are getting those resources out. So there's a bunch of towns that are all very industrial. They're they're not cities with, you know, high culture, but there are a lot of industrial cities that are. Where do you think the uranium comes from that we use here in the us?

Speaker 1:

uh, well, there, there, so most of the uranium that we've been using in the us.

Speaker 1:

I know no, no, no uh, so most of the fuel for the, the reactors that we have, actually comes from decommissioned soviet weapons after after the fall of the ussr there was a program to buy that as fuel and go through and actually downgrade the refinement so that it could be used in light water reactors here in the us without having to deal with the weapons grade stuff. And uh, you know, we've been buying our, our fuel for our reactors from Russia for 30 years Now. That's somewhat going away. The major contributors outside of Russia for uranium, which the US has plenty of uranium and plutonium deposits that we could absolutely utilize but we've, like oil, for many years, chosen not to and the main areas we import uranium and plutonium from is?

Speaker 1:

you already mentioned canada, but the biggest one is australia uh, for uranium.

Speaker 2:

Really, I thought canada was number one uh, I believe australia is okay, well, I know we get some other materials from australia that I that you wouldn't normally think of, but I thought uranium was definitely Canadian Um yeah, Uh.

Speaker 1:

so Australia is the world's third largest producer of uranium.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And has the largest known uranium deposits.

Speaker 2:

Interesting, I wonder why, Shakalaka. Um, hmm, cause it.

Speaker 1:

You know, broke off from Antarctica, so it must be some uranium down there too then Well, you know, it's actually interesting because when Trump's last presidency was, we subverted the French and the French were going to sell the Aussies some diesel subs and we said, no, no, no, we're going to sell you some nukes. And you know, part of that deal was actually having them be able to fuel it themselves. And then the other part there was because they're going to be refining some of the fuel that we would get some of that as well, going to be refining some of the fuel that we would get some of that as well. That was a trump administration deal which was actually subverting russia further as far as finances and being able to prosecute war and everything else. So you know trump, but people give trump a lot of shit, but he is a pretty sharp dude in a lot of ways man like he is not the buffoon that you, that they make him out to be no he.

Speaker 2:

But the endearing part about trump is the buffoonery. Oh yeah, it's. It's that the guy does not act like you. It's actually it's exact same thing with musk. Neither one of them acts like you would expect a billionaire to act.

Speaker 1:

Sorry.

Speaker 3:

I had to do my little Musk impression.

Speaker 2:

Musk has very obvious low social skills. It hasn't stopped him from achieving greatness.

Speaker 1:

Musk is one of those guys that, if as burgers were, still a thing would be, as burgers right yeah, yeah, you said ass and speaking of, at least we know where gene sits on the spectrum.

Speaker 2:

He's right there with beavis and butthead exactly, hey, man, I grew up with that shit yeah, I never was a beavis and butthead watcher it.

Speaker 2:

It is ridiculous, um, it's. It's the kind of thing where you laugh at them not with them, but it but it's still funny. I, I thought it was and and I've loved all the stuff that. Um, what's his face? Did the guy that did be a smith head? You know, he's the guy that did the idiocracy. Um, he also did the uh, the uh silicon valley tv show that was on hbo. What is his name? I'm totally blanking his name time for the vitamin b.

Speaker 1:

Hang on hey have you seen norseman on netflix?

Speaker 2:

um, I'm trying to think of I think that was on before I got rid of netflix yeah, well, you should watch norseman.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's very. Yeah, I did see it.

Speaker 2:

I saw yeah, it's in that one I think by the second season it started getting a little like ridiculous. First season was good, but second season like I the main character to do is just gets to a ridiculous level of patheticness. Are you in the second season yet or not?

Speaker 1:

oh, I've watched all of it. I was actually bored in the hotel room so I was watching it. Oh, okay, something I have a little. This is a pro travel tip for anyone who travels a lot. I have a little Roku streaming stick that just stays in my backpack for travel, yep, so that I can plug it in and have all my accounts signed in, everything just right there.

Speaker 2:

I did the same thing with an Amazon stick. Same exact idea, everything.

Speaker 1:

Just right there, I did the same thing with an Amazon stick Same exact it it it having that it's a $40 investment. That just is amazing.

Speaker 2:

Yep, yep, it's convenient, very convenient.

Speaker 1:

Except all the new hotel TVs are moving away from really allowing you external inputs, which is annoying.

Speaker 2:

Oh really, how are they doing that?

Speaker 1:

They're tying it to these boxes, some of which will allow for it. So, marriott, there's the old, old generation of Marriott hotels that haven't been upgraded, that you can just plug directly into the TV Right. Then there's this middle generation of Marriott hotels that currently exist that have this box bolted to the back of the TV that have some inputs that you can use and you can select.

Speaker 1:

The latest generation doesn't, and and or there's no way to change the input on the remote that you have, which becomes a problem, and since almost all TVs have gone to just pure remote and no physical buttons on the TV it's becoming an issue.

Speaker 1:

They want you to sign into your accounts on like they they'll let you. They have Netflix and stuff like that already installed. Yeah Well, I mean they'll clear your account when you check out. There's all sorts of stuff that they've done. But that's such a pain in the ass. I don't want to do that. I just want to plug in my thing, get it on the Wi-Fi and have access to everything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah absolutely, yeah, I used to travel with a little travel router back in the day for the same reason that that way you only sign in from the router into the network once, and then all your devices that you brought your stick, your laptop, your ipad, your phone. Everything else is already you know. It already knows about the.

Speaker 1:

Uh, yeah, the access point and you know I've done that uh on airlines as well. Uh, you know, if you have the appropriate equipment, one of the things you can do is not have to share uh or not have to have pay for wi-fi multiple times and you just share it.

Speaker 2:

You know, makes it easy that is true, Although I've usually just done it um with the iPad, and then you can share from the iPad to the phone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, or your phone, or whatever, sure.

Speaker 3:

But, you know, Android has similar kind of things All right.

Speaker 2:

What else let's? Let's do a few more of the Trump appointees. What do you think of the um?

Speaker 1:

the DO of the trump appointees.

Speaker 2:

What do you think of the um the dod guy? Who's the dod guy? I can't remember his name, but it's the guy that trump appointed now. Uh, that, everyone was like who's this guy?

Speaker 1:

oh, oh, oh, yes, yeah, yeah, um oh yeah, exactly his name, he's a major in the army. Yeah, he's a Fox, and you're not meaning DOD, you're meaning Secretary of Defense. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, shit.

Speaker 2:

But he's a Fox dude, which the liberals are pointing to as oh, that's like all he's ever done. Pete, hexa, pete, yeah, yeah that's like all he's ever done pete, hexa, pete, yeah, yeah. But apparently he's also got a woman accusing him of rape or something now, so we'll see if he sticks around yeah, the shocker part isn't that he raped somebody. The shocker part is, of course, there's a woman accusing a man of something.

Speaker 1:

That yeah yeah, I will. I will tell you. I've got some friends who have kids in the military and he is. He's a high, he was a high enough ranking officer that he knows the bullshit he's a low enough ranking officer that the feeling is he will represent, yeah uh, the enlisted man very well, I mean the guy's smart, he's an ivy leaguer in a lot of ways he's an ivy leaguer with tattoos. Yes, that's the best way to describe him and you know I I actually think he was a good appointment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so everything I'm hearing is positive from him so far, I tend to agree. I've seen him on a couple of podcasts and um, I think he was. First of all, he uses plain english the way you and I do. Um, he's not trying to use proper language to cover things up, but the other thing is he fully understands the thing we've also talked about previously, which is that the us military, through its dei policies, has been neutered and it really has to get reinvigorated.

Speaker 2:

Even if we don't have any new wars, we need a new army yeah, he's very anti-di, very anti-di um, and he's absolutely right, because if you start looking at the, there's videos on the internet of like boot camps where you have the the sergeant apologizing to the privates for hurting their feelings. My fucking God is this gone a long way from Lee Emery's days, where you were called a piece of shit because you were a piece of shit I mean I, I just look, I I'm hoping this is the pendulum swinging back the other way and accelerating very fast yeah we will see, um, but no, I I think the Pete Hegseth appointment was a good one and you know, again, he's one that will probably have a hard time getting confirmed.

Speaker 1:

But I think the liberals that are saying, ah, look at him appointing a Fox News host and da, da, da, da, da. It's like have you actually looked at the guy's background?

Speaker 2:

Clearly not looked at the guy's background, clearly not well, and that's the the. The two talking points on the left is that every trump appointee clearly is unqualified for that position. The second talking point is every appointee has had a sex scandal of some type, just like trump okay, but what does that say about our society versus the actual issues?

Speaker 1:

it?

Speaker 2:

says that there's a lot of women with phones that are typing messages in them well again, you know, believe all women no there's been too much shit there.

Speaker 1:

No, when that thing came out, the hashtag I was using on twitter is all women lie uh, the the one I like is you know, we had hashtag me too, and the statement was back in my day it wasn't a hashtag, it was a pound sign that's true, so that's what you're saying me too pound me too. Yeah, exactly okay, and I remember there's a.

Speaker 2:

There's a song from the 1950s uh, maybe 40s, but 50s, 40s thereabouts, and it was. I can't remember the name of the song, but the lyrics were uh no, please, daddy, stop and like was a a refrain from the song and I repeated a bunch of times, but you know the idea was essentially what was this? A song?

Speaker 1:

from the fifties, or something that you had one of your. No, no, no, it's a song that I played when I had girls over from the fifties here. No, I'm kidding, Uh, I mean you know at no, I'm kidding At your age. You don't mean girls from the 50s, you mean girls in their 50s.

Speaker 2:

I've never seen one of those. My eyes are such that they just are completely blind to anybody over 30. So I wouldn't know. There's some attractive 50-year-olds out there? Dude, if you say so, I'll have to trust you. I've never seen one. She's not that attractive. She was never that attractive to begin with. She had a good body, but I've never liked her face. Um, the cheekbones stick out way too much it's. It's a stereotypical eastern european face. I'm not a fan okay, yeah, I like more of the Swedish girls.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so you're more of a Greta fan.

Speaker 2:

No, not Norwegian. You've got to remember too. I grew up with mostly Swedes and Norwegians, that's the two dominant genetic pools where I grew up, and before that it was finnish. So, yeah, it's like I've. I've been around all three of the, the northern countries there, uh, but I just I mean, she's not ugly by any stretch, she's pretty, but she's just not like gorgeous. But she didn't have a good body, um, so I don't know if you saw I, I uh put on x the because darren and I talked about her doing a naked shoot, magazine shoot. So of course I had to track down the uh gq shoot that she did. Uh, where the front cover is her laying on a what appears to be some kind of a bear rug type thing in trump's plane. This was when she was a girlfriend, not a wife, um, and then the article talks about, you know, sex at 35 000 feet.

Speaker 1:

So shocker or standing on the wing holding a gun she's, you know she's.

Speaker 2:

She's cute. I just don't think she was ever like dropped dead court. I think marla uh trump's second wife was more attractive back when she was the same age and she was marla maples yeah, she was the same age. Marla Maples yeah, she was in Playboy.

Speaker 3:

And then, of course, ivana Trump's first wife.

Speaker 2:

I think is more similar to his third wife. Yeah, anyway, problems. Yeah, grading Trump's wives in order of preference, that's what we do now. What else? Have we covered all the appointments, or are there any others? I'm still waiting for the head of ATF. I know Brandon's trying to pitch himself. I don't think he's visible enough to people outside of the gun groups.

Speaker 1:

I don't know about that. I don't think.

Speaker 2:

Trump knows who Brandon is.

Speaker 1:

I don't know about that. We who brandon is. I don't know about that.

Speaker 3:

We'll see well, trump supported the guy in his press secretary trump and torres, the guy he ran against.

Speaker 1:

So you know, yeah, well, we'll see so, um so caroline levitt is going to be the new trump press yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't know anything about her. I saw a picture. She looks like a typical Republican.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

What does that mean? You know, blonde, fake blonde boobs, Christian, that kind of thing, yeah. Okay maybe I should say a typical Dallas resident.

Speaker 1:

There you go.

Speaker 2:

Yes, does that make more sense?

Speaker 1:

Yes, that does yes. Okay, yeah, which is yes.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, which is not a bad thing. I lived in Dallas. I enjoyed watching those residents at Starbucks.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, I got to tell you I was hit with a lot of nostalgia and emotion. I was up near where I used to live in DFW and you know a lot of stuff happened during those years to me in my life. It sure did happened during those years to me in my life and it just I wasn't expecting that, but it hit me between the eyes like I went to a restaurant that I used to go to uh chef, evian and downtown grapevine I don't think I've been to that it's you know, I lived in frisco, next door there, yeah, yeah but it's a little french bistro place.

Speaker 1:

It's french inspired food, but it's a little French bistro place.

Speaker 3:

It's French.

Speaker 1:

Inspired food, but it's not super spendy or anything. It's reasonable and good food. Anyway, I was sitting in downtown Grapevine and it just really hit me a lot and I drove by the old townhouse I used to live in there and some other stuff I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I got a little emotional about it, gene. Yeah, I, I know what you mean that's, I've had that experience before. That's uh, just especially a place that you're not normally. When you go there, it definitely stirs up some emotions and you know, what really does it for me, and I think most people, is the smells well, my nose is too screwed up lately to oh that's too bad, which you know.

Speaker 1:

I know this is not unrelenting, so we don't normally have no health talk but I gotta talk, all right. So I did some blood work. Everything came out back really well good, everything's good, but my nose has been screwed up since covid like, got a deviated septum and no nope, I already checked that out no deviation, no polyps, no nothing. But if I'm not basically constantly taking every 12 hours some pretty heavy-duty allergy stuff, I just get plugged Really, and so we're looking into why that might be.

Speaker 1:

And one of the things he noticed in my blood work was my platelet levels are elevated.

Speaker 2:

So you got bacteria.

Speaker 1:

To carry. No, no, no, not no.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 1:

Platelet levels. Not white cell count no signs of infection or anything like that. But anyway, he's wondering if not that I have sleep apnea but that my nose is plugging up enough at night to cause similar symptoms.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I'm wearing a little sleep study thing. Oh, I hate that. This isn't bad at all, first of all it's it's it's. This isn't bad at all, first of all, it's at home and it's on your wrist and then one of your fingers.

Speaker 2:

And so it's just the blood. Ox monitor.

Speaker 1:

It's not just blood, ox, it's um, it's pulse, it's movement. It's a bunch of different things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's a blood ox monitor.

Speaker 2:

Got a bloodaxe monitor, got it. I mean it even has like a little mic on it to go. Yeah, oh, it listens to. Okay, that's different then. Yeah, but yeah, I mean like I've got a, a thing that goes in your finger too and it's uh, it measures your pulse and your, uh, bloodaxe. Obviously it was the main thing that it does. It measures movement.

Speaker 1:

It just does not have a microphone, though well, anyway, this is a, this is a medical device shipped to your home to say that's not real well, I guess you don't really need the mask because you're not snoring, you don't have apnea, you're just breathing poorly through your nose. Yeah, anyway, and how old is your blood, ox drop uh, that remains to be seen. According to my garmin watch, uh, it never drops below 90, so I'm fine 90.

Speaker 2:

That's actually not very good dude.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, at your age it shouldn't drop below 98 so normally during the day and when my nose isn't plugged, I'm 98, 100, yeah all day, no problem.

Speaker 2:

At your age you should be yeah right.

Speaker 1:

It's when I'm sleeping and my nose plugs up that that becomes a problem.

Speaker 2:

I'll tell you the first time I noticed mine went below, that was when I was 49, I think, and because I was always used to seeing it either at 98 or 99. And all of a sudden it was like 96. I was like, oh shit, something's wrong. And uh, nothing was wrong. It just my lungs don't provide as much oxygen, I guess, unless I'm trying to breathe heavily or something, and so, like my normal one, let me look at my watch, right?

Speaker 1:

now my lowest last night was 91. My average last night was 96 um, but you know it had that. It had right before I woke up, right as I started to plug up.

Speaker 2:

It did yeah so my lowest last night was 93, and right now it's 96 anyway, heart rate is 75, all right, um, yeah, so well. Hopefully they can figure that out. Um a lot of times when you've got a long-term sinus issue, it's a bacterial thing, not a not a viral thing well, except I don't have.

Speaker 1:

I've been on antibiotics and I don't know it. Just we haven't how's mold? In your house. Yeah, I mean, it's a brand new house and I shouldn't have any more.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, then you shouldn't have any, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm. So I'm taking a pulse ox reading right now.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Just to see, yeah, but yeah anyway, you know.

Speaker 2:

Are we done with appointments? We covered everybody right.

Speaker 1:

I don't know that we covered everybody.

Speaker 2:

Well, everybody that we know about.

Speaker 1:

Well, we had the border as well oh, the boy yeah I'm very happy about that.

Speaker 2:

I remember watching interviews with that guy in the past and I loved his replies, which were very well, very, let's say, politically incorrect.

Speaker 1:

So that was a great, great pick yeah, fuck around, find out, sort of thing um exactly have you seen the door of the deported memes?

Speaker 2:

the what, the door of the deported no I haven't no what's going on there?

Speaker 1:

um, because this guy, it's Dora the Deported and the entire point is. And, by the way, the guy we're talking about is Tom Homan.

Speaker 3:

I never knew his name.

Speaker 2:

He's going to be the border czar and acting.

Speaker 1:

He was the acting ice director, but he's going to be over all the border stuff at this point and it may evolve to him getting all of dhs, so we'll see. Yeah, but regardless.

Speaker 2:

So the memes that have been going on are dora the deported and so instead of dora the explorer, it's a bunch of ice agents escorting her across the border, or a catapult getting thrown across the wall you know I love that the immediate reaction from the libs is like oh so trump's gonna separate kids from from their parents, because that came in incidentally, if you look at the videos, it is 99 single men in their 20s to 30s and somehow, magically, they're all transformed into being families, now with American born children, which of course you know the lib would say well, you can't, you can't kick the parents out because you can't separate them from the kid.

Speaker 2:

The point they're all missing is no, you absolutely can't separate them from the kid, the kid goes with them. It's the parents are being deported and they have minor children. Regardless of what the uh nationality of the minor children are, they're going to go with their parents. Well, now the minor children at 18, or even before, can apply to get a U? S passport. They're. U S citizens, but they sure as hell don't get to live here on somebody else's dime or free.

Speaker 1:

Here's the interesting thing is people are sitting here talking about oh my God, we're going to. Are you really going to do mass deportations? Are you really going to do this? And when you look at the polls, 70 plus percent of. Americans go, go, yeah, do it exactly. What do you mean? Why is this a question?

Speaker 2:

well, and I can tell you why because in those circles living here in austin, the it's like I can't believe trump is gonna deport all the cleaning ladies and the painters and the drywall guys. That's crazy. Why would he do that? A little racist, don't you think? Yeah, it's slightly, but that's what that's their attitude like. They don't see these people that are coming across the border as being equals. They see them as a surf class. And then trump is disrupting the supply of surfs. What a bastard.

Speaker 1:

Well, and you know that the lobbyists that went first at this little gathering I was at in Dallas. You know he talked about the knock on effects from Trump and what this is going to do to the economy and the way they see it being bad.

Speaker 2:

And everything else is like what it's doing to the economy. Everything's up.

Speaker 1:

You're missing the oh dude Bitcoin, holy shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, over 90. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, it dropped back down some, but yes, Well, it's 90 right now. It was 92 yesterday. It is very interesting to watch the changes in the economy, the changes in everything that's going on just right off the bat. It is like holy shit, did the world just stop on a dime and turn around?

Speaker 2:

yeah, no, there's all kinds of stuff and all all of wars are going to end, because everyone's just waiting until Trump's in office to stop their wars.

Speaker 1:

Well, ukraine, ukraine looks like it's going to acquiesce and say yes to a lot of territorial losses.

Speaker 2:

Did you hear what Johnson said? Noson said um, no, what's his face, boris johnson? He said that if the us does not support ukraine, then the uk will bring their troops into ukraine to help them brilliant yeah, and I and I thought, wow, the uk wants to get kicked out of nato. That's absolutely brilliant, what a hell of an idea. We don't have to pay for them anymore I.

Speaker 1:

I think there's a chance trump dissolves nato dude I know that would.

Speaker 2:

That would be the best. But if, if they, uh, if they act unilaterally like that, we get to kick them out of nato yeah and I'm, and well, I mean it'd be good for us.

Speaker 2:

Don't threaten me with a good time dude, but I I think that the people like him actually want to be nato. So yeah but meanwhile, um, what I've been seeing from the ukrainian apologists over here, uh, is that ukraine is very, very worried that their nuclear power plant is going to end up being a russian power plant. Yes, and that's it like.

Speaker 2:

That means they're gonna have to buy power, just like everybody else, from the rest of europe, from france oh no yeah well, first of all, they're not synced to the european grid, though they're synced to russian I know and that's gonna end as part of this deal is they're going to cut them off.

Speaker 1:

Russia will only supply energy to what is being in some places called New Russia, which is the secessionist provinces.

Speaker 2:

Well, I guess we'll see the reason Russia hasn't done this up until now is because it would be seen as a deep escalation of war. But once the war is over, they have no commitments that they have to maintain for providing any energy supply to Ukraine.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, it'll be interesting.

Speaker 2:

It'll be interesting I think that the whole thing is going to be interesting because, remember, there's already a whole bunch of well. I think every natural resource in ukraine has already been purchased by american or multinational companies. Like black rock owns all the grain that can be grown in ukraine for a while, for like 50 years, so it's already a surf country, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with energy. I mean it. This is not a marshall plan, this is a I don't know how to even describe it because we first encouraged them to get rid of their male population by putting them into a meat grinder and then we trade them military arms for many, many years to come, worth of material goods and production. I think that I just don't see how they're going to survive period, if we enforce all the things that we contractually now are allowed to do.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, we certainly will see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, no, we, we will absolutely see, but it's and somebody else was talking about this how, like, the biggest benefit to the us has been oh, I think it was marco rubio was talking about in testing american weapons in ukraine that we don't get to test in just normal testing?

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, ukraine is basically like a. You know, it's the rat cage where you can test a bunch of things on the rats to see what happens. Okay, so there's some anxiousness about the war ending, because that means we lose our test facility I think it'll be okay, I think it'll be okay, you think yeah I think, so, all right, I think we've learned enough that we can go do what we need to do and go from there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I suppose. And then the other thing that I liked about this um, the uh DOD guy, uh the sec def guy I know, I know the sec def guy is that, uh, he understands the risk posed by china in a way that most people don't. Uh, including uh your boy, that uh gay economist guy, yeah which boy did he come out and say some interesting things I haven't seen him in a while, so I'm not even aware of what he later says do you want to know who his favorite president is?

Speaker 1:

Who's that? Take a guess.

Speaker 2:

Bill Clinton no no.

Speaker 1:

George H W Bush. Well, that's not really a surprise, is it? I mean, it's pretty blatant that it's just you know. Okay, tells me a lot about you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, interesting, I've never heard him talk about his president.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he came out with a video literally saying that George HW Bush was his favorite president. Yeah, he's so accomplished. Former CIA director, vice president and da-da-da-da-da.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I heard he's people read bush family of secrets. The man is evil yeah, yeah, interesting, well, anyway. So this, this guy understands that the hypersonic technology that china is developing is of the utmost interest to the US, because it removes our greatest assets, and that's something I didn't think for a long time. It's literally anti-naval warfare, and the US biggest you know big swinging dick is the us navy. So if you lose the us navy, the dick swinging is a lot smaller I don't know air force is uh.

Speaker 1:

Strategic navy is a lot broader yeah, but you could also use that. Uh, I mean, dude, a couple b2 bombers could go out and level most of china there's no leveling of any of china, because that starts world war iii for real and okay, well you know seeking a few aircraft carriers would kind of do the same thing no, we've had this scenario.

Speaker 2:

I've done this a lot of times in uh, in a simulation and yes, yes, your simulations that are so accurate they tend to be very accurate. Now, the, the wuhan flu simulator was very good. That worked perfectly. I was literally like posting images that it generated that were almost identical to what we were seeing on TV for spread. Yeah, it was very good. A retaliatory strike with a nuclear weapon is something that I don't think the US can do without accepting mass casualties.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Why? Because there will be mass casualties, and so you have to be willing to basically give up populations of New York, Washington DC and a few other cities as the best case scenario if you're going to do a escalation to nukes from what was just tactical weapons, so that is. Would you be?

Speaker 1:

sad if new york no longer existed no hell, no. What about chicago with that?

Speaker 2:

now, I think, unfortunately there there is uh the, the houston dallas and austin might be a problem yeah, that's going to be a problem, because there I was going to just say that there there's a fairly large contingent of bases that are going to be targeted here as well. Um, last time I looked it up it seemed like, uh, the safest place that doesn't show any potential targets was like the very western side of Texas.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but who wants to fucking live there Exactly?

Speaker 2:

Exactly, but there's nothing there to nuke.

Speaker 1:

Because there's nothing there to nuke. Because there's nothing there Gene.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm sure the people that live there don't appreciate you saying that, and there's plenty of population out there.

Speaker 1:

There's really not.

Speaker 2:

I mean Texas is pretty sparse.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, fuck El Paso. El Paso is Mexico, it's not Texas. Oh my God.

Speaker 2:

El Paso is a large city, dude, it's probably the fifth largest city in the state.

Speaker 1:

Nah, nah, the Beaumont area is bigger.

Speaker 2:

Than El Paso. All right, I got to look up population Population.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's estimated to be 678,000.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it looks like it's kind of flattened out in the last five years about 678,000 and the Beaumont metropolitan area.

Speaker 1:

See, here's the thing is. It's only going to give me Beaumont, which is 400 and some odd thousand but, you've got the Golden Triangle there. That's more than that. Anyway, alright, maybe El Paso's bigger my point is simply that people live there I know,

Speaker 2:

I hear that all day long dude, you don't have to say it.

Speaker 1:

You're right.

Speaker 2:

Anyway. So YouTube, I mentioned this and I don't want to spend too much time on it, but uh, I I started posting about two weeks ago, so it's the beginning of the month, so maybe, maybe two and a half weeks ago gene's getting uh, getting those uh cia checks through youtube.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I wish I was. Um, I'm not getting jack shit yet. But what was been surprising, at least, is that, unlike the last few times that I've started posting videos on YouTube, there's actually been a massive result from that. Not in money, but, like. I went from 200 subscribers for I don't even know why I had 200, frankly, because I haven't done videos in years but 200 people had forgot to unsubscribe at like last month and right now I'm at almost 900. Good for you, so should hit a thousand here before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2:

These are not huge numbers. What's huge is the rate of growth, which is like I've quadrupled my subscribership in about two weeks, which is pretty damn good, which is pretty damn good. The other thing is I'm getting a lot more of my videos being shown to people, so there's multiple metrics. One is how many views, obviously, and the views are. You know they're pretty good. They're about 8,000 views per video, give or take, and for that few subscribers, that 8,000 views is pretty damn good. But the number of times that YouTube recommends my video to people is the one that really surprised me, because that's like 70,000 times per video.

Speaker 1:

And what content are you making?

Speaker 2:

a video game, how-to videos, basically for beginners playing this one video game called elite dangerous yeah, and are you actually good at it?

Speaker 1:

because there's some people who are really good at it and some people who just suck I am superbly good at it are you just so bad?

Speaker 2:

people find it hilarious no, no, I'm really good. I mean, I'm not making fun, I'm. I've got five thousand hours in this game dude, when did the game come out?

Speaker 1:

10 years ago, okay. Okay, then that's acceptable, because five thousand hours is a lot of time.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like that's eight hours a day.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, they say you have to spend 10,000 hours doing something to become a master at it.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, that's five years worth of work. Yeah, yeah, so I'm a half master.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there, there's so many, uh, so many jokes in there right now. I'm, I'm, I'm just going to let it go.

Speaker 2:

I set you up. Try and be nice, I'm not. I'm not going to say yes.

Speaker 1:

You know you're, you're like half a man in height. You know I'm not going to do half a man.

Speaker 2:

I was baiting you, anyway. Uh, so I am pretty good at the game. So I I had a couple of friends that recently got into the game and then there's a youtuber I started watching, uh, that recently got in the game and I've been trying to explain things to people my buddies, including this youtuber dude and I. I just kind of went fucking. I just need to make a video instead of explaining things verbally, just demonstrating. So I made that video and then I got a lot of views and I was kind of surprised. So I made another one and another one, and now I think I'm up to like 25 videos or so that I've made covering different aspects, but from the beginner perspective. So I'm, you know, my target audience that I'm envisioning when I make the video is somebody that started playing the game just recently. Incidentally, one of the guys that I've been playing with is playing it on Linux.

Speaker 1:

Okay cool.

Speaker 2:

So you know, know, let's get on linux.

Speaker 1:

Is this a first person shoot? I have no idea about this game, so it is a space game.

Speaker 2:

You fly spaceships okay, uh, it also has a. You can get out of the spaceships and you can run around on foot and you can fight people on foot as well. I don't do a whole lot of that first person stuff. Um, I prefer the spaceship combat, but it's not just combat, like a big part of what I do is actually not combat at all. Um, I'm a space trucker, so I just fly around delivering goods from point.

Speaker 2:

A to this is an mmorp or whatever yeah, yeah yeah, it's available on steam, which means it'll work on linux yeah, but like he was actually playing it on linux and everything worked, and and I I said, oh, do you, do you have a motu? By chance? Maybe, uh, you can offer some advice to another friend of mine.

Speaker 1:

And what did he say? He didn't have them up to.

Speaker 2:

But he said that there's a very large audio community of Linux people.

Speaker 1:

Yes, by very large he means like four people.

Speaker 2:

But he did say he did recompile his own kernel. He usually does that whenever he upgrades.

Speaker 1:

Of course.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so one of those people well, elite dangerous is 20 bucks it is. Oh, it's on sale again. Okay, cool on sale.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think it's.

Speaker 2:

I think normally it's like 30 bucks or something, but anyway, it's the. The cool thing about this game is, unlike some other games I've played, is you literally pay the 20 bucks and you're done. You know like I've been playing this game for 20 bucks for 10 years Technically less than that because I didn't buy it right when it came out but probably more like six years. Okay, but yeah, so I've been making video and it's been fun. And the last point I want to make about this, so we can move on, is I am somewhat shocked by the number of people leaving compliments in comments and telling like thanking me for making the videos and telling me how it really helped them and how they've been trying to figure this out and and this is the first video they've seen where I it actually makes sense- oh, good for you I was not prepared for that um do you want that on the back?

Speaker 2:

I'm, I'm getting so. That's why I said I'm getting so many pats on the back like you're telling me I'm right doesn't even do anything don't, don't break your own arm no, I'm, it's not even me doing it. That's the amazing part. It's a bunch of random strangers. Now I have had a couple of haters in there as well.

Speaker 1:

Now, of course, so is this a? You're playing against other people, or what?

Speaker 2:

I'm mostly the computers, so mostly npcs you can play against other people. I kind of usually don't, um, because there are. There are a lot of aspects of the game that you know you don't need to be competitive with people on, like, for example, this I've told you I think about this game. I think I did this.

Speaker 2:

This is the game that has a one-to-one recreation of the milky way galaxy okay so it has all the data from nasa about planets that we've discovered through various telescopes, um, including hubble, you know, the radio telescopes and everything, and it's all in the game. And in fact there was an article that came out, I think, about a year ago, that talked about how there's a particular solar system that had. It was a binary star system and the game had predicted the existence of a planet that wasn't discovered yet but later was then discovered, and it was exactly where the game said it would be Okay. So it's kind of neat. It literally has the entirety of the Milky Way there.

Speaker 1:

Well, okay, interesting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I haven't flown to the center of the Milky Way to see the big black hole yet, but that's on my to-do bucket list.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And like our solar system. Here there's one other neat thing, and then we can get off the whole game thing. Um, you can actually go fly out and visit, meaning, you know, get close to, uh, voyager one and two, ah cool, and they are in the correct positions for when the game takes place, which which is the 33rd century.

Speaker 1:

Are they still functioning?

Speaker 2:

No, not that long, but they are basically like living. You know museum pieces that are moving, so they're still traveling.

Speaker 1:

It's just that your ship has faster than light travel, so obviously anything that's moving slower than that is trivial to get to okay yeah, cool, anyway, that's my you know I miss the days when games would allow you to download a preview that would be like a level or two, and that was it, and then, if you wanted to buy it, you could that does still happen on steam.

Speaker 2:

I've seen those uh for usually pre-release games, like when, before it's finished, they'll let you download it, play a couple levels for free, then the next iteration you'll be able to buy it for cheap, but it's still not done, and then ultimately it'll be released.

Speaker 1:

It'll be full price yeah, I know what I'm talking about is like descent. When descent first came out, you could download the game and you could play it, and then the game would lock after two levels and you could play those levels as many times as you wanted, I see, and then if you bought the license, then you'd unlock the other levels.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I guess that's less positive. It was the shareware style. But keep in mind that if you buy something on Steam, you've got 24 hours to refund it, so you can try out a game and if it doesn't seem like it's your type, you just got to file out a refund form on Steam and they'll give you your money back.

Speaker 2:

I guess, so it's kind of like you know. Plus, the other thing with these games is, um, to some extent, depending on which game you're looking at games prices have not followed upwards the way that inflation has a lot of other things. There are still games that are 60, but there's a ton of games that are in the 20 to 40 range, which, of course, today's 20 to 40 is like 15. 20 years ago is like a 10 to 20 game, so the deals are not that bad. Now.

Speaker 2:

When, uh, grand theft auto 6 comes out, that'll probably be a either 79 or 100 game that seems exuberant yeah, but again, that's no different than the 50 that you paid for grand theft auto five when that came out 10 years ago.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It's just I'm just saying that in general, games are actually cheaper now because they haven't increased in price the way that most things have. I mean, Jesus, look at cars. I was just talking to a buddy of mine that that's doing car shopping right now and the last car he had was like a Lexus from six years ago or seven years ago, pre-COVID. And now he's looking. It's like, yeah, prices are basically double, yeah. And you've looked at trucks too? Oh, yeah. Although you're looking for more of an old school truck.

Speaker 1:

Not really an old school truck. Not really an old school truck. I'm looking for a mid 2010s. You know something? New enough to have Bluetooth, old enough to not stop and kill the engine every time I get to stoplight.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I said, old school.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, I am hopeful that maybe we'll turn some of these stupid regulations that we've put on ourselves around.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that'd be great, the whole turning the engine thing off. I think it makes perfect sense if you're in a hybrid. It makes no fucking sense if you're not in a hybrid.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because, like if you got to start the engine and then start moving forward, that's lame.

Speaker 2:

If you're in a hybrid where you actually have electric motors starting to move you as the engine's turning on, nothing wrong with that I guess, and that's that is one thing is, I think all the um well, I shouldn't say all I know that some at least of the, the grand cherokees, the, the actual jeeps and the trucks that dodge has uh, there's a lot more of them that are hybrids now. But who wants a hybrid truck? I do, are you kidding? Be awesome. You know how many foot pounds of torque that puts out okay, and yeah, you know how much weight batteries add they don't have big batteries, they they.

Speaker 2:

They're not, like you know, a prius type hybrid. They're a hybrid specifically for power, not for economy. So it's to get you accelerating and to help with uphill climbs with a big load. It's not for, you know, driving on with your engine off.

Speaker 1:

With a big load huh.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I like the idea. Have you seen the memes?

Speaker 1:

of baron whispering in donald's ear and says don't deport the big booty latinas keep them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when's the aoc getting deported? Speaking?

Speaker 1:

of big booty latinas. Yeah, I think she'll get kicked out of congress have you watched her videos lately?

Speaker 2:

oh?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, no doesn't always mean no.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Which was hilarious I have to repost that.

Speaker 2:

I'm like holy shit.

Speaker 1:

This has to be out of context.

Speaker 2:

Does she not realize what she's saying here, like literally telling guys what we've been saying all along that? Yeah, that's because most women are saying the same thing she is when it's convenient, and then changing their minds later, when it's not convenient, and redefining what they meant.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's not what you meant when you said it, so yeah that was crazy hashtag believe all women obviously yeah hashtag, all women lie.

Speaker 2:

Obviously what she's referring to here, uh is believing is like don't give up trying to steal the election, get creative and find other ways to do it. But boy, can that be applied to a lot of different things. Yeah, you think. Yeah, when's bill cosby out of jail?

Speaker 1:

I, I think he's dead. What do you mean? Oh, he's not dead, is he did? I'm gonna die in jail, oh no hey, hey, hey anyway, man, I don't know. I I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I think the trump appointments are good. I think that, uh, the libs have lost their mind and gone off the deep end. I I think that you know the movement in the election, every demographic, the, the, the difference in who votes for trump, who votes for a Trump-style Republican Party and a Democratic Party.

Speaker 2:

Good, he's out of jail, there we go, yeah, so he's got the Supreme Court overturned it.

Speaker 1:

The Supreme Court overturned Cosby's conviction.

Speaker 2:

Yep In 2001.

Speaker 1:

How did we're?

Speaker 2:

not talking about 2001. He's been released since 2001.

Speaker 1:

He didn't go to jail in 2001. You're looking at something wrong.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he was sentenced in 2018, dude.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and you just said 2001. You mean 2021.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and you just said 2001.

Speaker 1:

You mean 2021.

Speaker 2:

Yes, 2021. Correct, okay, Ben, you're totally right. I can't believe it. What, yeah, 2021, not 2001.

Speaker 1:

Hey, hey, hey, you can't give away the time travel secrets, okay, Nope. It's nay on the time travel eh.

Speaker 2:

Bill Cosby's never been in jail, and Mike Tyson won his battle yesterday.

Speaker 1:

Did you even watch it?

Speaker 2:

No, I don't have Netflix because they're a pedo network and I don't support pedos.

Speaker 1:

And I didn't either, but apparently it was pretty lame lame yeah, that's what everybody was saying.

Speaker 2:

It was super lame. It was like two guys barely doing anything. Yeah, but I don't think there was a good.

Speaker 1:

I mean tyson's doing it for the money, obviously we need to bring back boxing as a real sport though I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

Mma is better.

Speaker 1:

I've always liked mma more well you mean, all you got to do is go to bare knuckle boxing and it'll be better, and less injuries, yeah, except your hands that's okay, um, yeah, yeah, I mean it would definitely be bloodier, that's for sure.

Speaker 2:

There'd be a lot of splatter going on with bare-knuckle boxing, but I don't know, I liked. I don't know if you've ever seen these, I don't even know if you were born back then, but the original, the first, probably two years of UFC before it was purchased by the current owner, it was basically anything goes. I think the only thing you couldn't do was poke somebody in the eyes, but otherwise you could do anything else, and it was really fun to watch because you got guys that are completely different from coming from totally different um, martial arts or not even martial arts competing with each other. I thought I thought that was very entertaining. Do you ever watch it?

Speaker 1:

No, I've never been a UFC.

Speaker 2:

No fanatic.

Speaker 1:

Okay, now, listening to Trump and Donald talk about it kind of made me want to watch UFC, just to see what the hell they're talking about. But it's just. It's not my thing, dude.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know, I kind of enjoy the Like.

Speaker 1:

I remember watching boxing with my grandpa. And he was a boxing fan and I remember watching Mike Tyson my grandpa and he was a boxing fan and I remember watching mike tyson fight as a kid yep and you know that that was great when we bit the guy's ear off no, that was older by then. But uh, you know, I I I can see myself watching boxing because of my grandpa and being nostalgic about that, but I'm not. It's just never been my thing, so, or what it's worth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, I just I felt like boxing and probably bare knuckle would have been better. But I always felt like boxing went on too long, too many rounds and it was more of an attrition battle, unless you had somebody that was bad at it and then they would get knocked out. But generally any decent boxer knew how to protect themselves from getting knocked out in the first five rounds. After round five it's whoever gets tired first loses, which is not to say MMA is all that different in that regard. But I think with MMA the techniques utilized are so much more varied that that was a lot more fun than boxing. I boxed a little bit as a kid, didn't really get into it. My mom didn't like the idea of brain injury.

Speaker 1:

well, and here's the thing.

Speaker 3:

It's like pads in football by patting the hands and everything you can hit way harder than you really should ever be able to and, as a result, it causes issues.

Speaker 1:

If you didn't have the pads in football, if you didn't have the big gloves in boxing.

Speaker 2:

Australian rules football. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, if you didn't have that, you wouldn't have the traumatic brain injuries, because you can't hit that hard without breaking your own hand.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, breaking your own hand, breaking your shoulders, but the actual heavy injuries is less yeah, exactly, absolutely, um and then, um, I did muay thai when I was in my 20s and that was a lot of fun, but also I broke every finger in my hand my left- hand but it was a uh, you know it's basically boxing with kicking. Yeah I I like martial arts I've done I've done martial arts. I enjoy martial arts you didn't like watching it I, it, I.

Speaker 1:

If it's a tournament that I'm at and participating in, yes, I will sit and watch other matches and stuff, but it's just I'd rather be there doing it, which I have.

Speaker 2:

I have fought in some, in some tournaments back when I was a kid, a long, long time ago I really, actually need to get back when you were a kid uh, I did a lot of taekwondo and then, uh, judo and jiu-jitsu. Okay, so you were a thrower.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, taekwondo is kicking, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

What judo?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I did judo and I did freestyle wrestling and lots of stuff like that. I did a little bit of Krav in college not a lot, so you know I've done that.

Speaker 2:

You learned how to grab balls and poke into eyes uh, yeah, you israelis are dirty yeah, you israelis, right, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I did work for them yeah, I did read a book recently that I told you I couldn't recommend, but one of the main characters was a masad agent and it was interesting to did they make him a totally secretive, mythical kind of guy?

Speaker 2:

uh, it was a girl and kind of yes, okay all right yeah, I I tend to find that, uh, israelis that I've met have a, an overly inflated ego. That's not justified and it's it's kind of annoying like there. I remember one guy that that I met and we were talking about guns and then he was in town for a while and I said, oh well, if you want, I can you know, I take you to the range, we'll go have some fun, do some shooting. And uh, he's like, oh, yeah, yeah. And then we get closer to the time we were going to do it and he's like so I normally charge like $200 an hour to train somebody. I'm like, oh, really, that's cool, because I charge $400 an hour to train somebody, because I'm a fucking firearms instructor.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, I kind of figured you'd need some training because you guys don't have a second amendment in Israel. So obviously I was a dick right back to him. You'd need some training because you guys don't have uh, second amendment in israel. So obviously I was a dick right back to him. But it's like, what the fuck, dude I'm?

Speaker 3:

I'm asking you for this what?

Speaker 1:

nothing it's, it's, it's ridiculous. I you know, if you want to go shoot with someone, go shoot with someone exactly what?

Speaker 2:

what the hell gave you an idea especially after I talked about all the different guns that I have and like to shoot that somehow I'm going to be getting a lesson from you. It's like, okay, just because you were in the army for five years absolutely does not mean you know more about firearms than even an average American man, but far less somebody that's actually an instructor so fuck off. But far less somebody that's actually an instructor so fuck off. But that's just a one example of a whole lot of these that I've had over the years with Israelis. They are um well, I could get really racist here, so I'm going to stop.

Speaker 1:

I mean, how can you be racist against your own culture?

Speaker 2:

Uh, cause they're Arabs, they're basically arab jews.

Speaker 1:

Uh, have you seen the memes lately, uh, going around of people saying listing all the countries that jews have been kicked out of? Yeah, yeah. And it's never, once their fault.

Speaker 2:

I know it's. It's just crazy. I just Such anti-Semitism. The anti-Semitism that's been around for about three and a half thousand years just has to stop. Like enough is enough. Three and a half thousand years, come on, guys, let's put an end to it. Guys, let's put an end to it. Uh, I love the, uh, the uh, the little. Uh. Well, I guess he's not little, the jewish character they got on family guy mort, mort, yeah, it's like every stereotype you can possibly think of yeah, he's got every disease that you can sort of self, you know uh diagnose.

Speaker 2:

Uh, you know he he can't breathe straight, he can't see right, he it's like fucking everything, um, but yeah, it's, uh, I'm, I'm really positive. Well, I'm optimistic, let's say, with the american jews right now, because I've seen both in videos and I've had in conversations through personal experience. I've seen an awful lot of them open their eyes for the first time and realize that the party they belong in is the republican party and not the democrat party, because the democrat party, um, never really can we just get rid of all parties?

Speaker 2:

well, you, what are you? A party pooper yes I want to get rid of all parties. What? What do you think of the? Uh, the way that they do it in a lot of other countries where you you know one party can win it's always coalitions fuck that we don't like that either. No, really all right. Why would I? Well, I think it's better than what we got right now with two parties.

Speaker 3:

Is it?

Speaker 2:

I think so. It's so the people that really want to vote for the Green Party or the Libertarian Party can still do it and still manage to get some people in into Congress, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I don't want to do a parliamentary system yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't know I. A parliamentary system? Yeah, I don't know I. Just I think what we got sucks. I don't like two-party system. I've never liked the two-party system. I think it forces people into.

Speaker 1:

Well, the founding fathers didn't want us to have political parties.

Speaker 2:

Well, that would be great. How do you get rid of them? How do you keep people that share common values from voting in the block?

Speaker 1:

you don't. What you do is remove the d and the r.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, yeah, that I've said forever as well. Yeah, I totally agree that the party affiliation should not be listed on any official documents. You want to list it on your banners that you put out in front of the house, that's fine sure any government vote for john johnson.

Speaker 1:

He's the republican no vote for. Uh, you know, johnson, john, yeah, well, it's like the same thing back when I ran.

Speaker 2:

You know I had nra uh very heavily on my stuff and I know you're not a fan of the nra, but this was a long time ago they helped write the n write the NFA dude.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm not a fan of the NRA.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm. Well, and it was a Republican president that it came in under, so there's a lot of bad shit there. My point is that I don't want to see.

Speaker 1:

I don't like Reagan or Lincoln. What's your point? Oh my God point.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, I don't want to see, uh, the nra be in little brackets on a ballot if they endorse somebody like that's all it is. That party affiliation is an endorsement by a party and that's a private entity. It does not belong on a ballot. That's my point, agreed so, but that doesn't really get rid of the parties. I but that is when I get rid of the parties. I thought you meant like completely get rid of the parties and have no parties.

Speaker 1:

Well, you can't ban freedom of association, you can't ban parties, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not something you can rethink, that whole thing.

Speaker 1:

You know, I again. I knew this is a point of disagreement between us. No, I don't think you'd limit it, because as soon as you limit it, that power can be used against you. You restrain yourself and government right. That's the entire point.

Speaker 2:

I just think if we get rid of the Democrat party we don't have to worry about it.

Speaker 1:

Something else will take its place.

Speaker 2:

We'll get rid of that too.

Speaker 1:

And eventually you're gotten rid of.

Speaker 2:

Well, eventually I'm dead. I won't care, it's all temporal.

Speaker 1:

My friend liberty, it's all temporal.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, liberty, sure, but you know the people are retarded. This is actually discussion. I have somebody else and it kind of bounced off stuff you and I were talking about previously. Is that, uh, that the concepts of liberty, not just the French ones, but actually the ones that the founding fathers were?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, which, by the way, you uh finally read to Tocqueville. No, no, you were posting about it I.

Speaker 2:

I was posting where Twitter? What was I posting?

Speaker 1:

where twitter? What was I posting? Something?

Speaker 2:

about the toque phil's premonitions on, uh, the us and how it would go. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I watched the video. That's why I was posting yes, um, but I did not read it. No, um, where was I going with this? Oh, yeah, so that you need to have men capable of understanding the responsibilities that come along with liberty, understanding the responsibilities that come along with liberty and the level of freedom that they were creating government for.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you have to have an educated populace.

Speaker 2:

Agreed, but beyond educated, because you can have education that is subversive as well, which we're seeing you know being majority of the education currently in this country, you know being majority of the education currently in this country but you have to have enough of an like-mindedness from the people that are going to be a part of this population. This is why I do think from a pragmatic standpoint.

Speaker 2:

Why this country shouldn't be as big as it is, and we should split it up and start over shouldn't be as big as it is, and we should split it up and start exactly that that there's a practical limit, empirically derived, as to the maximum size of a functioning, um liberty-minded society, like if the group gets too big, speaking, it's going to fail because the people in it will not not just not want the liberty or everything that goes along with it, but will be incapable of understanding those concepts.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, I just sent you a link to something that's very long and I wish it was formatted a little differently so I could pull out what I wanted to pull out. But I'm not going to bother, but Patrick Henry's speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention is worth reading. And I will say Mr Henry here is exactly right. He predicted everything that would end up happening with the federal government and I agree with him that the constitution should have never fucking been ratified cool.

Speaker 2:

Um, I can include that link in the show notes, okay, so everyone can read it for themselves. Is it really that long?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's fairly long.

Speaker 2:

It's fairly long, probably 10, 12 pages.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it's worth reading.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, very cool, got anything else Ben. I really want the demolition gun oh, the 1911 or the double stack 1911 9 mil. That demolition ranch is putting out with night watch firearms, but holy shit, 5 grand a 5 grand handmade limited edition very beautiful gun I have and I'm not a huge fan of 1911 yeah, I figured you'd like it because of the gold accents well, not just the gold accents.

Speaker 2:

I like the all the cutouts they get. It's just a. It's a very pretty gun. Um it, it literally is the opposite of a glock yes you. You understand what I mean by that yeah, yeah, yes, I completely agree yep. So yeah, I would totally love to have one. I don't know that if I had, if I bought one of these or got one as a gift, I don't know that I would shoot it more than once.

Speaker 1:

I would shoot it once for sure I don't know that I would do that just because it's one of those things that's so.

Speaker 2:

You wouldn't shoot it at all.

Speaker 1:

Like it's a collector's item.

Speaker 2:

dude. Oh yeah, yeah, but you still got to use collector's items. It's important having, unless you're just going to sell it later. I guess if you're doing that, that's fine.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't sell it, but I just. I don't know that I could get rid of it.

Speaker 2:

If I have a bottle of something that you can't get anymore and when you could get it it was worth thousands of dollars does that mean I shouldn't drink it? Yes, no, absolutely not. Means I should drink all of it, not share it with anybody. That's a joke, by the way. Yeah, but I don't even drink anymore. Um, no, I I think that, uh, if you have an opportunity to enjoy something that is in limited quantity and really nice, you should always take the opportunity to do it always take the opportunity to do it, okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, anyway, I would like that gun, but it's just, it's out of the budget, out of the price range, not what I can.

Speaker 2:

Well, maybe you can sell your Bitcoin and buy the gun.

Speaker 1:

I don't have that much Bitcoin, unfortunately.

Speaker 3:

I got rid of some of my bitcoin and that was, uh, not the smartest move ever oh yeah, I know.

Speaker 2:

Um, I was talking to darren. You know he's got a shit on bitcoin because he does all those shows and it looks like he's going to be buying a new mac with his bitcoin oh yeah, and not not retiring definitely not that much Bitcoin, but enough to buy a Mac.

Speaker 1:

Good for him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know if you've been listening to the show at all.

Speaker 1:

Why wouldn't he hold on to it, the Mac, the Bitcoin?

Speaker 2:

The Bitcoin. Oh, he gets a new supply company all the time.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but you're misunderstanding. Why wouldn't he just stack the sats?

Speaker 2:

No, I get it. I get it. My point is simply that if he doesn't have the money to buy the back out of his normal budget, right now presents an opportunity for him to convert something that he's gotten effectively for free because Bitcoin prices went up into a Mac, so he's not out any actual money.

Speaker 1:

I know my wallet has gone up quite a bit, but I don't have incoming Bitcoin, which we need to solve that problem.

Speaker 2:

We really do.

Speaker 1:

Well.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I mean, we're getting our costs covered, right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah yeah, since I moved. Uh, I'll put it this way this is how good bitcoin has done since I moved to the proton wallet, which people will remember. Um, it's up over 50% since.

Speaker 3:

I made that move alone.

Speaker 2:

Wow, you know a little bit more and I could, I guess, sell the bitcoin I have and go get that night watch exactly there you go or you know anyway, or get a nice bottle of something that you can't, can't buy anymore no, I'd rather buy a gun yeah, yeah, there there is something that I don't know if most people get an enjoyment out of it or not, I definitely do.

Speaker 2:

There's something really cool about finishing the last of something that'll never exist okay and whether it's wine, whether it's a cigar, whether it's food, whatever it is, but if, if you, what you have is the last in the world, like the most rare animal, and you've got the last one in your sights and you're gonna eat it, and you're gonna kill it and eat it like that is such a special thing that nothing else really quite compares to it that there's some sickness that that equates to gene, but okay oh, it's not a how's that, it's not a sickness.

Speaker 2:

What are you talking about? No, it's, it's a, that concept of having the last thing of whatever it is. It makes you appreciate it that much more, because there will never be any more.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I guess, I guess I've never been in that situation. So yeah.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, yeah, with that gene.

Speaker 1:

What else you got anything else?

Speaker 2:

I got nothing else I think we're done, since we're sitting here talking about killing the last of the you know tigers yes, get the last tiger egg before they're all gone. The last.

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