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The episode explores the tremendous significance surrounding Trump's inauguration day, especially as it fell on Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Robert E. Lee's birthday. Discussion centers on pre-emptive pardons, Trump's inaugural speeches, immigration policies, and the implications of an assertive foreign policy approach.

• Examination of the significance of Martin Luther King Jr. Day 
• Analysis of the controversial nature of pre-emptive pardons 
• Insights into Trump's bold inaugural speeches and policy declarations 
• Discussion on immigration policy changes and military involvement 
• Speculations on the geopolitical implications concerning Panama and the Canal Zone 
• Consideration of the potential impact on civil liberties and human rights 

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Speaker 1:

Howdy Ben.

Speaker 2:

Hey Gene, Happy Inauguration Day. Slash Robert E Lee's birthday.

Speaker 1:

It couldn't happen on a better day, right.

Speaker 2:

Martin Luther King Day. Robert E Lee's birthday. I think we're on a roll here.

Speaker 1:

I think so, I think so, I think it was a great day all around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no doubt, and Trump is writing some executive orders or signing them today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we got to check the latest on what that is, but I would say that Martin Luther King would very much have voted for Trump this election.

Speaker 2:

Oh God, especially over Kamala.

Speaker 1:

Because his messaging about his dream is literally the antithesis of the woke movement.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Judging someone by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Right.

Speaker 1:

Where the woke literally preaches that nothing else matters other than the color of your skin. Everything is decided for you at birth, except except, of course, uh, your gender. Yeah, isn't that ironic. I mean, you would think at least to attempt to be consistent. If they're gonna be in support of, uh, trans sexuality, wouldn't they be in support of trace transracialism?

Speaker 2:

well, I mean, we've had some cases of, uh, transracialism that's true, we have yeah anyway, uh, but the federal government is now only recognizing two genders, so there's that oh, that'll be fun.

Speaker 1:

All the freaking forms will need to get changed back uh, yes, which also I mean passports.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the implications of what he said today are so amazingly far-reaching.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's created a ton of work for people, absolutely. That's why you want. That's like worried about what trump like firing. Everybody in the government doesn't realize that he's going to need a shit ton of people to actually execute yeah, so did we.

Speaker 2:

Let's start before the inauguration and let's talk about joe's preemptive pardons, including what a crock of shit.

Speaker 1:

Can I just say they start off with that, the I mean, tell me how you really feel the idea of a preemptive pardon. A pre-pardon is no different than the idea of a pre-crime, because you have to have somebody be a pre-criminal in order to pre-pardon them. It is a in no way disguised attempt at simply giving complete immunity and free reign to break any federal law in the future or past to these people that are walking around with these unicorn magic documents that are pre pardons. It is disgusting.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's not in the future. He's done so many horrible things. What it's? Only for the period of time listed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's for. Well, it's for a period of time listed. That there should be no period of time listed. The Constitution is not ambiguous on this well after, after the verdict of guilty. That's when it kicks in. You can't say if there's ever a verdict of guilty, then this person is pardoned. That's not how that shit works well, I mean there.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so the constitutionality of the preemptive pardon, I think, is going to get challenged after this.

Speaker 1:

It has to. It has to, it has to, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2:

And now you know.

Speaker 1:

That was never the intent.

Speaker 2:

This first started with Nixon right when Ford pardoned Nixon, that was a preemptive pardon. And he should not have absolutely but even then it was a preemptive pardon for specific acts related to watergate. What biden did for his son, what he did for fauci, the j6 committee and everybody freaking else under the sun, including his family is a blanket pardon with no specific crime.

Speaker 1:

That is retarded. You cannot do that, and I hope that it not only is challenged and reversed, but that it prompts more investigation into these people and frankly the entire list of 8 000 people that were pardoned to see how many of those pardons are also illegal.

Speaker 2:

It absolutely should, so it's going to be an interesting one. Needless to say, the inauguration was fantastic. It was the best ever. It was great. And Trump's speech after his two speeches afterwards was fantastic.

Speaker 1:

Good yeah, they were exceptional, and I don't say words like that very often I think his speech his original main speech was his imperial kickoff speech yeah, exactly, uh was absolutely uh way more aggressive than I ever expected, in a good way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then his impromptu non-written speech. The overflow room was just as good. I was like holy shit man, this is amazing.

Speaker 2:

So are you ready to concede my point on Mexico? Yet, Since Trump not only wrote it, signed an executive order today declaring the cartels a terror terrorist organizations. No, and then and and he's deploying troops to the border.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, we'll see what actually, if they're actually involved in military action across the board, but I'm absolutely conceding my not any more than 20 executive orders day one, because, clearly, even if there isn't 200, which is what I've heard as a high number, it's still already more than 20.

Speaker 2:

oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, so you got that one yep, well, anyway, I I think it's uh, it was a very imperialistic speech, and he also said in in his first speech that we will control the canal zone again.

Speaker 1:

He was not ambiguous about that at all, like there's zero ambiguity there and of course, I'm already trolling on that count because there's large, you know, posts on this topic on x people saying, yeah, america can go take it, come in and take over the canal. I'm like that's totally not what we're going to do. No, in fact, I would say we're going to add Panama as a territory and de facto get the damn canal back.

Speaker 2:

Well, and Panama and China are both going well, fuck, how can we save face on this one?

Speaker 1:

Because if it goes to military action, it won't be good. Oh yeah good, oh yeah, yeah, no, but the smartest thing panama could do right now is to unanimously approve legislation that hands over full canada ownership to the us as a gift.

Speaker 2:

That's the best thing they can do and they could even maintain some tax revenue from it or whatever sure, well they'll, they'll be allowed to put some vendor machines out there.

Speaker 1:

That's, that's something sure because if, if the us is coming in with military to take it back, there's going to be every little possible food and snack and bottled water is going to be imported from the us. There you will not have any panamanian products available yeah you won't have any panamanian people working on the canal.

Speaker 2:

It'll all be imported staff did you see the part where trump also talked about the gulf of america? He's serious about that one too.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, well, and that's an easy one, I think because we control the publication of more maps yeah, well, it I mean google will update it. They won't have a choice to um I bet they'll fight it, but sure I doubt they're gonna fight it dude it's um. I've never seen so many tech billionaires watching a presidential uh, what you would call it the thing that just happened any fireworks in your area we had fireworks. Yes, we had fireworks. That just ended here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, people are lighting off fireworks, people are celebrating.

Speaker 1:

Illegally, mind you, because it's outside of the, I think, time frame where, in Texas, you're allowed to do that. But clearly some people kept some from New Year's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And they're letting them off today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and all over the state.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm state. Well, and I think, uh, you know, in the impromptu speech when trump talked about texas and the work that our governor has done here, which he says he didn't know.

Speaker 2:

Abbott was in the crowd right, right.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think I mean abbott is so short because he's sitting in the wheelchair. He didn't see him. Obviously. I believe trump when he said that I don't think Abbott's short, he's just.

Speaker 2:

You know, he's compact, he's compact, he's folded up.

Speaker 1:

He's folded up most of the time Well, and I'm not a huge supporter of Abbott.

Speaker 2:

I thought it was funny that Trump's like we couldn't get you in the main room. What happened there Exactly?

Speaker 1:

But I think it is funny, and Abbott actually was in the main room. He actually got wheeled to the other room as well. I saw him in the main room, so it's a double dip for him. There was a few funny moments. That was one of them. One was when, as they're getting ready to have the Trump and Biden leave, the rabbi was busy squeezing everybody's hands right in front of the main stage. It's like dude, come on, pick a better time. People are actually following his schedule here and he's just coming in there and then wanting to shake everybody's hands.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2:

It's all good. He's a friendly people, you know yeah, I am very, uh very happy with how not the pardons, but how trump's speeches and everything went today. I thought it was done extremely well the whole thing was good.

Speaker 1:

I enjoyed the the bringing in the three religious leaders as well. That was nice. So they had the rabbi come in and they had a black dude from Michigan come in, and then they had a Catholic from what sounded like New York come in and everybody gave a slightly different benediction. But you know, I mean, that's the kind of thing that a true emperor does, is they claim the power but then they get anointed by gods. So I thought this worked out quite well for them?

Speaker 2:

Well, you know. And how about Mars we? Well you know. And how about mars? We're going to colonize mars. We're going to claim mars. We're going to take our manifest destiny. Use the words manifest destiny.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that abodes another point for you, incidentally, for a monroe plan, except it extends all the way to mars, apparently now dude, I'm telling you, japan it's.

Speaker 2:

It is hilarious. And I don't know if you saw, on the tiktok ban, with the tiktok stuff, uh going, uh going the way it did, there were canadians that uh weren't allowed to use tiktok.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I saw your. I saw your reply to them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, the annexation has already started, like the trolling opportunities. Actually, I think what happened there is that dude probably was in the US when he installed TikTok or used TikTok, probably.

Speaker 1:

And that's absolutely the case, because it looks at your initial installation country. That's exactly what All he had to have done, even if he was in Canada, is pick up a white signal from the U? S, yeah, and, and it would have registered an IP address that belongs to the? U? S. And therefore, if you originally install it, even if you fully honest and somebody tried this the other day even if you fully uninstall it, use a VPN, connect to a different country, do a clean install with a brand new sign up. It won't let you do it. It says due to, uh, us regulations, you're not permitted to use the software yeah, the the only way to do it would be on a virgin device yeah, you'd have to wipe the device first.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I I don't even know if you could do it. I don't know that you could do that because if it records, like the imei or something, it wouldn't that's true.

Speaker 1:

That's a good point, because a lot of that is available to the mobile apps yep, not any websites, but definitely to mobile apps.

Speaker 2:

Trump is uh trump is taking credit for the hostages and, I think, rightfully so good he should absolutely reagan.

Speaker 1:

Did that? No reason Trump shouldn't.

Speaker 2:

I think this is. It's been an interesting day. I went back and re-watched some of the facial expressions. Is it just me, or was Bush high? Bush looks scared to me man. He looks scared, scared high something man. He was tweaking.

Speaker 1:

Bush looked like he was unhappier than Kamala yeah. Somebody actually commented a post that said Kamala did a great job. They thought, you know, she just kept taking it and taking it and taking it, with a big smile on her face.

Speaker 2:

So kudos to her. Well, you heard about what's going to happen to her husband tonight, right?

Speaker 1:

No, it's that.

Speaker 2:

Well, she told Doug Imhoff, her husband, that on January 20th he'd be sleeping with the new president.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there's there we go.

Speaker 2:

That makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm sure he's getting cord hold tonight at least metaphorically, yeah, the amount of uh campaign elected porn has definitely grown oh, I heard somebody told me I have no firsthand knowledge of this, naturally yeah, you didn't send me anything about AOC or anything like that I wouldn't know anything about any, any kind of messages with images that you may or may not have received at all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so Trump's talking right now and he just mentioned the golden age of America.

Speaker 1:

again, Dude, I'm telling you he likes, the empire is here, it's made of gold, yeah, but the empire is here like there.

Speaker 2:

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that we are moving into an imperial phase at this point yeah, yeah, did you watch?

Speaker 1:

putin did a nice little congratulatory thing to him no, I did not.

Speaker 2:

What did putin?

Speaker 1:

say no. He said that you know he welcomes back his old friend into the office and that he's very much looking forward to having many conversations with him in the days to come. Their live stream is running a 24 hour countdown timer. Uh, because trump said within 24 hours, uh, the the ukrainian war will be over. So they're. They've got a little timer going on all their shows now well, I will be shocked if it isn't yeah, but what does that mean?

Speaker 1:

I mean there's still plenty of money that was sent last week and plenty of equipment that's still sitting there. So the war may be officially announced as being over doesn't mean that the ukrainians aren't going to use up whatever the reminder of the ammo and missiles they have maybe, but I think so.

Speaker 2:

I think the territory currently controlled by Russia is now Russian territory period. Yep, that is the reality on the ground. People, can you know csb can argue with it all he wants, but the reality is they control it and I don't think that's going anywhere. No, and you know, I I think that we've killed off over an entire generation of Ukrainians for this nonsense and that needs to stop Absolutely yeah, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm definitely looking forward to you know, once this thing is officially over and done with to helping out some Ukrainian ladies in the 20 to 24-year-old range.

Speaker 2:

So, anyway, what else do we want to say about the ukrainian side of things?

Speaker 1:

um, I think everybody knows it. I mean, there are people that may not say it publicly, but I think everybody, from zelensky to all the democrat politicians, everybody knows that at this point, whatever amount of money you manage to sneak through ukraine to fill your coffins with is all you're ever going to have, and you better make sure that you've paid off the right people so they don't start pointing their fingers at you when the investigations start happening. Because that's the other shoe that I expect to drop isn't just a stoppage of the funding of the war, but a deep dive into where did the money go? And what we're going to find out is Ukraine proper probably got about 30% of that money. 60 plus percent never left the United States, and even of the money that Ukraine got, a large chunk of it was routed to switzerland, to the cayman islands, to a lot of places where it disappeared that's my prediction.

Speaker 2:

Well, so how long do you think before um zelensky leaves uh ukraine?

Speaker 1:

I think zelensky has got people working on a deal right now because, remember, he's got seven houses in the us, he is a uh, he's a multi-multi-millionaire. He's got over 100 million personally, and so for him it's basically any time from now until he actually leaves there isn't going to be spent on trying to do negotiations or anything like that. That's all going to be left to professionals do? I think that is going, that all this time is going to be spent on just getting the best deal for him personally. He wants to make sure he's somewhere where he's not going to get assassinated. He wants to make sure that he's not going to end up in prison. You know he's got a few things that he will have to spend money on to guarantee that.

Speaker 1:

He may have to betray some of his you know fellow Ukrainian money funnelers out there, in order to make sure that he doesn't end up going to prison.

Speaker 2:

Where do you think he'll land?

Speaker 1:

Florida. He's got a really nice house in Florida. Do you think he'll come to the US? 100%, when else is he going to go? Eu? Why he's got a nice house in Florida and he literally has seven houses in the US. Yeah, well, well, he was spending time here before the war dude and and being an actor you know, this has been the longest role of his life, lasted for over three years, where he's had to constantly wear the same clothes, like every person the movie tends to, because the clothes is what defines the character.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure he's looking forward to it.

Speaker 2:

He looks like a badass in the Odie Green outfit right Come on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 5'5 badass, he's definitely looking forward to it, kettle. I have no context for what. That is what you're saying. He's a little short guy. I have no idea what you're talking about. Anyway, I think he's looking forward to wearing some white linen, get out of that grungy green and, you know, be more of what a multimillionaire, uh, from a slavic country living in florida would be doing gonna have pretty girls sitting by the pool drinking drinks. I think that's that's his ultimate outcome here wow, we'll see.

Speaker 2:

Did you uh? Did you see, uh, melania's outfit yeah of course. What do you think of that? Because she was definitely channeling some v for vendetta stuff there it was interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was a little unusual. I mean, I kind of expected her to be in kind of more of a you know, lighter colored outfit, but I don't know, uh, and and I don't know how much she could even see out of that damn hat yeah, how see out of the hat yeah. Yeah, what do you think of? She looked like a Hamburglar, you know what I mean, like the hats actually over her eyes and then she's looking out through the hat.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Not in a bad way, but I'm just saying the brim of the hat was very low.

Speaker 2:

It was, but what's your take on why?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, dude, like, if I start trying to understand women's fashions, my brain's gonna explode oh, you know, you wear pumps I, I wear flip-flops. That is the extent of my shoe wear. I don't even wear cowboy boots with heels, like you do uh, I do wear cowboy boots, you're right so okay, tell us, mr heel wearer, what about her outfit?

Speaker 2:

well, I I just think it was symbolic you know, it's almost something you would wear to a funeral okay so and uh he trump just said he's going to reverse uh the biden, uh the biden, uh legacy, and one order that he's about to sign apparently revokes um 80 of joe biden's orders.

Speaker 1:

Executive orders yeah, which is? You know, biden reversed like 20 of trump's orders immediately. They were right. So this is good. Now we have a couple other things to talk about. Um, one is elon musk and the other one is, uh uh vivek, which you can do first, uh, let's go with a fake all right, so vivek is dropped out of doge and report.

Speaker 2:

I have not seen that officially.

Speaker 1:

It's official, yeah. And immediate reaction on X by a lot of people is like oh, here we go, they're starting to dismantle the thing that they sold to us. You know what did he do wrong? Was he pushed out by for not having enough money, or something by Elon? What's going on here, elon, what's going on here? And I think the explanation for most things is very simple, because he's also started a committee to investigate running for the governor of Ohio and, I think, working in Doge.

Speaker 2:

Well, that or he could be being appointed senator too. No, they already said that there's somebody else that's going to be appointed well, okay, it hadn't been done yet, though, so jd vance's seat is open yeah, but they, they, they announced the current governor of ohio is going to take that seat. That was interesting, that he's gonna appoint himself, huh well, I mean, we'll see, why not I mean him being governor of Ohio is not a bad thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think maybe the feedback to him is like dude, if you seriously have aspirations of national, the best thing you can do for yourself is to become a governor. That's your highest odds of becoming president. If that's what you want is to go through a governorship, because virtually I can't remember the exact percentage, but it's well over half of the presidents were governors at one point or another.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's certainly been in recent history that you know. That has become the path, the path, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I think part of the reason why is because the amount of money it takes to become a governor is only second to the amount of money it takes to become a president. Sure, and Trump is an anomaly here. Everybody has to recognize that no one should see what Trump accomplished as a oh well, he opened up a new path that everybody can go down. No, no, you can't, you're not going to go down the same path as trump.

Speaker 2:

Nobody will another billionaire might, but that's, I don't think so I don't think so.

Speaker 1:

I think this is. This is a unique thing that happened with trump on on multiple levels. I think it's he's only what the second president ever to win non-consecutive right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, which is?

Speaker 1:

pretty unique and he did it better than the last one, so clearly he's the best at that. So you know it's yeah it's going to be great. So I think Vivek is going to be more realistically. So if Vivek gets appointed to the governorship and starts running, for the governorship.

Speaker 2:

He won't get appointed to a governor.

Speaker 1:

Why.

Speaker 2:

Because who would appoint him?

Speaker 1:

Special election or what? Yes, it will certainly be a special election, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know Ohio State's. I don't either. I don't know Ohio State's specific laws on this, but the lieutenant governor. So in the absence of a governor, so let's say Abbott took a role in the administration. The lieutenant governor would become governor until the next election.

Speaker 1:

But they appoint the lieutenant governor.

Speaker 2:

They would. Now in Texas. There's a little bit more to it than that, because you know, the governor in Texas is actually the weakest position of the ironically of the governor, the lieutenant governor and the railroad commissioner. The railroad commissioner actually has more power in the state of Texas than the governor does.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, which is hilarious, yeah, yeah. So well, either way, it appears, let's say, because we're still lacking some facts, but it appears that Vivek's path has been diverted to. You first need to become governor of the great state of ohio well, that's okay.

Speaker 2:

So trump is now talking about oil and gas and not the wind thing, because that's the most expensive form of energy, which he's not wrong shocker.

Speaker 1:

That's amazing. Not only that, all these windmills are made in china well, and there's lots of issues with that. But yeah, exactly, um so good, sounds like he's continuing to put out so on to the uh.

Speaker 2:

Elon the sig high yeah.

Speaker 1:

So that's the other thing that popped up immediately on cnn with the gals reporting. It's like, as Elon is being shown on the screen with the volume completely turned off, mind you, we see him smiling and, you know, being energetic and excited, and all of a sudden he just doesn't see Kyle, and that just makes the CNN gals go. Well, we just saw it. I mean, let's replay this. And he did it quickly, mind you. But you all know what he just did. We can all see what he just did.

Speaker 1:

It's pretty obvious what he did, and that is move his right hand from his chest to a straight-out position, palm down, and which you know, colloquially would probably be referred to as a c-cal.

Speaker 1:

Now, if you watch that video as I sent you a version of it with the audio on you can literally hear musk's words immediately preceding this, saying how grateful and thankful he is from the bottom of his heart to everybody who is sitting there watching the speech, as he touches his heart and then takes his hand and draws this rainbow of love that's coming out of his hand towards the crowd, a move that has been done by plenty of people, incidentally the idea of, like you know, taking a kiss and then throwing it out there to other people, or taking your love and then casting out there. This is a move that's been done in a lot of churches, frankly, that I've seen so Elon doing it with no sound. Immediately first thought for the media is well, he's a Nazi. It's pretty obvious. I mean, look at him, he's from South Africa, must be a Nazi. But reality is obviously very different. Well, you know what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2:

My thoughts are it's a bunch of nonsense. Nonsense, and even if he was literally doing a sig heil, it would most likely, from what I know of elon's politics, be a jest, uh, sort of thing, and you know, or without the context, it's just yeah, it's it's, it's it's bs, info, speak nonsense, where we're going to change history and write what we want to write. That's all it is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is very similar to the video of Joe Biden walking up the airplane stairs and there being Donkey Kong barrels thrown down at him and he's tripping over the barrels as he's trying to climb up. It's funny, right, but obviously that's not why joe tripped.

Speaker 2:

Joe tripped because he's an old man joe tripped and we really need to talk about this. Um, but so current speaker of the house had an interview that came out. Yeah, started talking about Biden and his executive orders and that, if Trump doesn't pull them back, which he can if Trump doesn't pull them back, which he can.

Speaker 2:

And he also gives us the opportunity. Well, if he was not cognizant enough to know what the executive order he was signing was doing yeah, was he was he in a state of mind where he could sign a pardon? Now, this is the solution for this, the 25th Amendment. Which is problematic that it hasn't happened.

Speaker 1:

No, it's the same solution as it is for voting. Have a law that says all executive orders have to start as a blank piece of paper. Sure, like that blank piece of paper solution that I keep throwing out there just solves every problem that the government has.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, until you get someone like me in there who can't spell worth a damn, and you know.

Speaker 1:

That'll be even more fun. We're attacking panty mania in the hats what?

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, sir. You want to bomb who? Oh man, all right, sorry, I interrupted your, your, your thought here oh, it's okay, but anyway it will be interesting to see what happens. I think trump and mike johnson seemed very aligned, which I'm not a big fan of mike johnson, so that's interesting. Uh, I I trump is hitting the ground, running like. One of the things you have to recognize is the man is sharp and he has definitely learned from the first time he absolutely did.

Speaker 1:

I will say one thing about mike johnson. I think mike johnson is a very unassuming looking and acting person. However, as trump was complimenting him earlier today when I was watching, he said mike, how many people were you able to get for this bill? Because you know we really we needed to have like three and mike got 18.

Speaker 1:

Like, mike johnson also has that skill of negotiation to be able to get people that initially start off on the other side and get them to flip, and I think that that's a very useful skill, not for the leader of anything, but for the ceo like that. That's mike johnson's role in here is to take direction that the president is moving in and ensure that the engine supports that downstairs, and that's if he can continue doing that. I think Mike Johnson's got a very good legacy after him. Well, we will see. Yeah, we'll see, but so far it sounds like Trump's happy with him. We will see. Yeah, we'll see, but so far it sounds like trump's happy with him we will see.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I am looking forward to the trump 2.0 agenda. I think the liberals may have inadvertently given us the donald trump they were warning us about for a long time, which I think is hilarious. I think his statements about you know, know, the first election, the 2020 election. Had it gone differently, uh, he wouldn't be pursuing what he's pursuing and doing what he's doing. So, yeah, I do, I. He's on fire today. We'll see.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's. Um, there was a lot of people, I think, that had to make peace with what's coming because there's no other way.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's like they lost yeah, trump's apparently making jokes about joe biden pardoning his family while he was speaking. The the number is insane, the number of pardons that biden has done.

Speaker 1:

And then you look at these last minute ones and it's treason is the only word that can come to mind dude uh, actually a gay guy, andy no is is making uh memes on the Internet saying you know, we were supposed to have LGBTQ internment camps with Trump and instead we get this showing the video of YMCA being performed.

Speaker 2:

The village people.

Speaker 1:

It's like exactly, and oh, this one I have to repost um so I think elon is going to be the doge master in chief yeah, the doge master in chief until he gets bored with it, probably about a year from now. Okay, elon does not stick to any one thing long. I completely understand that personality type. I have similar, uh problems to him in that regard. The um, it's like intense ocd for a very short period of time and then you just start wondering.

Speaker 2:

So it's a combination of ocd plus adhd that's exactly.

Speaker 1:

That's exactly correct. Now, back in my day we didn't really diagnose these things. We just said now, well, he's a boy, what do you expect? But uh, in today's world that probably would be a ADHD and OCD in the same person. So yeah, it'll be interesting to watch. I think so far my biggest negative on Musk in business has been that he is overly, overly, overly optimistic on everything. All his dates are off by years, not just days or months. His expectations of how long something would take in terms of iteration has generally been off, but he does hire good people and those people keep going in the direction to get through where his goals are. It's just reality kicks in and then it's not. We're not running on elon time. We're running on I mean, remember this in the amount of time that most people have gotten married, had a set of kids and gotten divorced.

Speaker 2:

Elon has done that seven times plus a bunch of kids out of wedlock.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, yeah yeah, but he's been married like seven times so and cranked out kids with everybody, from girlfriends to wives, and he's a big supporter of everybody cranking out kids, yep, so the guy has already lived several lifetimes at this point and I think that's.

Speaker 2:

And now he has the presidential task to colonize Mars.

Speaker 1:

Wow, boy. And he was so excited because the shot of him sitting there next to Baron which, by the way, baron is like the look of stoic His dad's having a good time, everybody's having a good time. Baron isn't pissed off, he's just sitting there with no expression dude, okay, all right, what's your take on that?

Speaker 2:

because I think baron is going to grow up and seek some major, major, fucking revenge I think you're absolutely right.

Speaker 1:

I I think Baron is not a politician.

Speaker 2:

I think Baron is a hit man.

Speaker 1:

We'll see. Personality-wise, I think that'll be his persona. He'll be the kind of guy that doesn't say or indicate that he's going to do something and you find out that he bought your company, fired everybody and then, um you know, made you pay the back pay or some bullets, Like you'll find all of that out at the same time after the fact. Yeah, I think Baron is going to be a very shrewd person. Uh, cause he's got like let's face it, he's like the best combination he can get.

Speaker 1:

He's got Trump jeans and he's got slavic jeans he's gonna be walking around wearing a uh tracksuit, taking names I doubt he'll wear a tracksuit dude I don't know. First of all, I don't know that they make tracksuits in his size rock, make me a picture of baron wearing a tracksuit. Go ahead, keep talking uh-huh.

Speaker 2:

Well, anyway, the the dude is definitely uh got some vibes going that he's going to be uh an interesting player when all this is said and done. Yeah, and I and I truly think he will be a player. Uh, he, apparently trump has come out and said today that baron was the one who advised him on which podcast to go on and this. You know, he, he was very, uh, very involved with the campaign and trump just signed an executive order revoking 78 actions.

Speaker 1:

Uh, by a single executive order.

Speaker 2:

That just number two regulatory freeze. No new regulations. Man, he's on a roll, oh my god so these are coming out.

Speaker 1:

Where are you watching them coming in?

Speaker 2:

I'm just on a feed right now, watching on mute, yeah because that's fascinating.

Speaker 1:

I'm curious what the final day one tally will be, but I, like I said I've already conceded to you on that count. I think you're you're clearly going to be a lot closer to what the reality is than I was well, who knows he?

Speaker 2:

he might uh, and you know, it depends on how you count them. So he may only write a, do a handful, but they may be very impactful. The point is he is hitting the ground, running and changing. Third is a federal hiring freeze, except for military.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, dude, we're back, baby're back yeah, we are.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, now I just gotta get a job in this new administration, that's all well, except now it's a federal hiring freeze they're still hiring people to fire other people you want, you like, I will work for free. Just let me do the firing I, I did, I mean I I sent multiple messages to you this is a good one.

Speaker 2:

Number four requirement for federal workers to return to in-person work immediately oh that'll.

Speaker 1:

That'll literally lay off over half of them, because right now.

Speaker 2:

You heard the stats right?

Speaker 1:

oh yeah, yeah, they're not coming in most of them work two days a week yep, yeah, well, daddy's back.

Speaker 2:

Did you see the? Uh rosanne bar and uh, what's his name? Uh song that daddy's home no oh my god, you gotta go look at that after we're done here. Oh man, direct five directive to every department to address cost of living. Crisis number six withdrawal from paris climate treaty.

Speaker 1:

Perfect, he is on a fucking roll dude, they must have spent a month putting these together if they're cranking them out this fast well he, yes, they were already written.

Speaker 2:

Obviously, he's just sitting there signing, signing, signing, signing. I hope his hand gets tight. That's awesome Climate treaty gone. Yep, mm-hmm, they're saying the US.

Speaker 1:

They're saying the US will.

Speaker 2:

The commentators are saying the US will save over one trillion dollars by withdrawing from the treaty.

Speaker 1:

Makes total sense.

Speaker 2:

That looks way more like Donald than it does. Baron, you think? Yeah, seven. A letter to the United Nations Holy shit Letter to the United Nations. Holy shit Letter to the United Nations announcing withdrawal.

Speaker 1:

From the United Nations. Yes, oh, my God, that is awesome. Okay, okay, okay, I think I think you might actually be right about the imperialism.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're going to start making an altar uh, dude, dude, dude, I, I'm, I gotta calm down, I'm, I'm overloading the mic here, but fuck. A directive to federal government, uh, to restore freedom of speech and prevent censorship of speech? Okay, yeah, but, dude, a letter to the united nations announcing withdrawal that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you know, that means they're gonna get kicked out of new york. To them, yes, yes, that is great oh yeah the un is basically gonna be all the nations that don't matter. Oh my god.

Speaker 2:

And then we're gonna have the friends of america club yeah, directive nine uh, the uh direct the federal government to ending weaponization of government against political adversaries and prevention uh from of the previous administration. Yep seven letter to the united nations announcing withdrawal. Yeah that's awesome. Now, if we do that, though, we do lose our um, and he's going to the rest, to going to the oval office to sign more but those first nine oh, is he just signing these as he's walking around?

Speaker 2:

no, he's high in the uh at one of the rally rallies and he's throwing pins into the audience oh, oh, that's even better Dan. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, those are worth a lot of money.

Speaker 2:

Yes, because usually when a president signs a bill or something.

Speaker 1:

It's a famous person. Yes, yeah, but he's just chucking them into the audience. That's great.

Speaker 2:

So we'll lose our seat on the Security Council.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2:

If the Security Council is irrelevant, then why do we need a seat? Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 1:

What if Russia withdraws from the UN after us? They could, they could.

Speaker 2:

I mean they're certainly not going to want to pay the bill to take over the US payments from the UN.

Speaker 1:

I mean China is more likely to pay that bill than Russia is. Agreed, yeah, yeah, I mean China is more likely to pay that bill than Russia is that's great, yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's um. I really do wonder if they're going to propose an alternative system to the UN and basically just turn it into a um league of nations. Yeah, dude, that is like I am so effing excited about number seven yeah, but the one thing about that, though, is isn't the world court tied to the un?

Speaker 1:

yes okay, so the world courts that that could be interesting, because the world court may have arrest warrants for people that they can act on, which may result in the US attacking the country that the world court is in uh, isn't that in brussels? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. So I, I it's gonna be interesting because, literally, the the guarantors of all these powers is the us. Yeah yeah, yeah, the power behind the leaves, then everything stays, but it's all meaningless.

Speaker 2:

Dude. This is something that the people like the John Birch society have been pushing for for fucking since the sixties. That's right, oh my God. Uh the uh commenters are saying maybe the next round will include the J six pardons.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's already been pronounced, that all nonviolent J6 offenders should be either pardoned- or commuted. Yeah, or clemency, or whatever. Yeah, well, clemency is a form of commutation, but whatever the term is, is they're going to do it?

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, dude, I cannot wrap my head around us leaving the un like that is the biggest fuck you to the world yeah, it definitely puts america first well, and it's totally in line with what I've been saying on. This imperialist track like this is setting up the stage of we don't care, you can say whatever you want we're doing this senate confirms marco rubio secretary of state, so that uh, he's not my favorite candidate, but whatever.

Speaker 1:

Huh, he's certainly not my favorite candidate for that, but okay, dude, but trump can fire him.

Speaker 2:

now he's out of the senate Senate. I can totally see Trump being like thank you, marco, you served your purpose. Now that we have someone reliable in the Senate, your services are no longer needed. Bye-bye.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, senate just passed the Lake and Riley Act. Yeah, whatever that is.

Speaker 2:

It's an illegal deportation thing.

Speaker 1:

It's just put in a freeze of hiring for irs agents yep, oh, my god, dude.

Speaker 2:

All right, gene. What else do we have to cover? This is our little special episode.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is yeah, you know, if we were actually getting some, uh, major bucks coming in, we could actually do two shows a week, but we figured this week is so important, given that it's robert lee's birthday and martin luther king day and, of course, most importantly, it's trump day and uh, hey, I.

Speaker 2:

I think we need a new holiday after the withdrawal from this UN dude.

Speaker 1:

Oh exactly, oh my God. And on Trump Day we had to do a special show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I hope I didn't blow anyone's eardrums out.

Speaker 2:

Well, I was a little excited dude, excited dude like I. I have talked about the need for the us to withdraw from the un and been around people who have thought that my entire fucking life my grandfather, you know, like people I brought that mean everything trump just signed. As far as this goes, so far has been very Ron Paul-ish. You know, this is fantastic. The liberals may have given us the Trump they feared. I'm ecstatic.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it goes back to that old adage of careful what you wish for, right they? They wanted to, uh, push through and unelected candidate based on nothing other than her skin color and sex, and instead they got this well, I, I, I don't see, I, I don't, I don't know what else he's gonna sign tonight.

Speaker 2:

I, I don't know how he's gonna top uh announcing uh a letter to uh the united nations announcing withdrawal, like I don't know how you top that.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yeah, yeah yeah, yep, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

Donald Trump famously said the UN was just a club for people to get together, talk and have a good time. Well, he's not wrong.

Speaker 1:

He's not wrong, exactly. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, one thing I haven't heard a peep about and I'm curious whether there's a reason for it or not is RFK.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean?

Speaker 1:

Have you heard any mention of him in the last few days?

Speaker 2:

He's going through confirmation.

Speaker 1:

When.

Speaker 2:

He's had several. There have been hearings. There's been all sorts of stuff that has been talked about. I'm sorry okay.

Speaker 1:

So that's happening right now. Yes, got it okay. Yeah, it's, that is interesting. Hmm, um, yeah, I mean I'm I was cautiously excited. Now I'm not even cautious about it, I'm just very excited. This is gonna be fun. This is gonna be a fun America to live in it's.

Speaker 2:

This is going to be a fun America to live in. It's something man Drill, baby drill. The Paris climate shit is over. Now this can all be undone in four years. But I think if the US actually exits the UN and the UN headquarters building becomes a spirit Halloween the way it should, I don't see us ever going back, and if we go into an expansionist phase, it's huge.

Speaker 1:

Huge. Well, it would be a good idea to get out of the UN before we start taking over other countries, I think. I think so huge. It would be a good idea to get out of the UN before we start taking over other countries, I think.

Speaker 2:

I think so too. Although they'll sanction us or do whatever the hell they want to do.

Speaker 1:

They could do whatever they want. We're not going to pay for them to do it and they don't have any money to pay themselves.

Speaker 2:

They certainly won't after this. No, it's a, and the boys over in NATO need to start thinking strategy real quick here too oh, uh I I wouldn't be surprised if one of the things he does is pull us out of nato well, he has basically already said that he's going to double the fee and anybody that doesn't pay it on time will automatically get kicked out. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Which is going to be interesting for countries like Sweden and Finland, who've never had to pay it in the past. Well, and yeah, they just joined, but yes, Right, that's my point is they're not used to spending 6% of their GDP to pay it out somewhere outside the country. This is a reshuffling like we've never seen before. It's momentous, it's huge. It's momentous, it's huge.

Speaker 2:

Well Trump was already the best president of my lifetime, for one reason and one reason only no new wars. And now, if what I'm seeing announced is what is happening, then this is huge.

Speaker 1:

I think that's an appropriate word to use here.

Speaker 2:

I think that's an appropriate word to use here. I don't see how there's any. I just don't.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, yeah, it's a uh. He's doing all the stuff that we we were hoping he would do. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2:

It's tremendous, I'm just so. I'm at a loss for words, dude.

Speaker 1:

He's wasting no time to drain the swamp.

Speaker 2:

And the swamp is more than just DC. Yeah, so he's announced several others, including immigration uh declaration of a national emergency at the border uh negative side.

Speaker 1:

There's already been one uh, one uh ins or whatever ice agent that that just died at the border right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he's going to clarify the military role in border security. End, catch and release, designate cartels as terrorists. We already knew that one was coming. Suspend refugee resettlement, end asylum and close the border. Did you see? That El Paso as soon as Trump was signed in El Paso, the border uh checkpoint at el paso was closed yeah, it was closed immediately. Yeah, yeah, uh, he is going to uh do an executive order on birthright citizenship, enhanced vetting and screening. Uh protect americans against invasion yes, I think.

Speaker 1:

If you want to be a citizen we got a solution for that you get a blank sheet of paper and you have to write out the entire history of the United States in one hour. On a blank sheet of paper. You can't do that. What the hell makes you think you ought to be voting?

Speaker 2:

I don't think you could do that, but that's okay.

Speaker 1:

I could I have to pass all this shit I could totally do it. It's all about the blank sheet man. That's the secret weapon the blank sheet of paper.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And you realize, nobody under the age of 30 even knows how to write.

Speaker 2:

They just type.

Speaker 1:

I mean my handwriting is pretty terrible, but pretty terrible. But yeah, sure, well, you're over 30, but I'm saying everybody under the age of 30. Am I gene? Literally, am I? Are you over 30? Sometimes you act like you're in junior high school.

Speaker 2:

So maybe you're right, maybe hey, hey, hey, just because I sent you the aoc in a furry costume. Uh, yeah, this is.

Speaker 1:

This is the kind of stuff I get from ben. I get pictures with a big smiley face of aoc in a furry costume is she dude? It looked good I'll take your word for it. I'm not a furry myself, but I'm sure that it was very appealing to you well, the.

Speaker 2:

It was a troll on uh twitter, for those who are listening, and uh, what it was? With someone's ex, someone saying I can't believe he milked her on stage and she's wearing a cow a cow a very revealing cow outfit.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, a whole scene outfit yes, yes, yes, all right, man.

Speaker 2:

Well, I I don't know how we top that. That was, that was fantastic going to.

Speaker 1:

Let's go ahead and wrap it up. This is a special episode, so don't get too used to it, unless we start getting more money in it, in which case maybe we'll do this on the more than the weekly basis, you know what, even without getting more money in, if we can, if we can get our listenership up, yeah, we're stuck in a like we're stuck in, I think, around 1100 or so uh downloads every month, guys, and we we had once we had like a year ago where we hit 3000.

Speaker 1:

We really want to get back to that. If we get over 3000 episodes, it really puts a lot of the uh uh, you know justification for doing the show more more frequently as well well, and one of the things I would definitely say is um, we have a very, very dedicated base.

Speaker 2:

That doesn't go anywhere, but it's. It's interesting to see some of the episodes, looking at some of the statistics, where you know someone will come in and you'll see almost a little virality moment where that one episode will just get downloaded like crazy and it's obviously not a bot or something, because it's not downloads across all episodes that we're seeing. It's just a single episode here, a single episode there that we actually hit big.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, it's, it's uh clearly somebody actually doing what we ask, which is sharing an episode with other people yeah cool, wow. Well, I will see you on our next regularly scheduled programming time we'll see you gene hey ben, how are you again?

Speaker 2:

okay, so we'll be putting this at the front of the episode so that dude put it at the front it's gonna be at the end.

Speaker 1:

I want everybody to be excited and then let down, ah well, okay, so I'm watching during this episode a slight correction, folks, to what you live stream from nbc and have the.

Speaker 2:

So it appears that my excitement over the un was actually a fat finger by nbc, so don't blame me, nbc announced that trump was pulling out of the un, you got all excited exactly yes, that they bad fingered it it looks like, so notify, so it the. The updated headline now reads notify trump.

Speaker 1:

Notifies the un that the us will be withdrawing from the paris climate treaty, not the un yeah, which is unfortunate because, yes, I was pretty excited too, but I certainly thought that was less believable for something that hadn't really been talked about. Um, but now it looks like nbc screwed up and that's what man was watching. So, oh well, we can hope, we can dream whatever it's, uh, maybe, maybe next time.

Speaker 1:

I'm I'm very sad now yeah, I could tell you sad. Maybe get some food or something. All right, guys, we'll see you in the next one, all right later.

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