Travel Adventures and Flight Scares

Speaker 1 0:26

howdy ben? How are you today? Howdy gene?

Speaker 2 0:28

I'm doing well, sir good, good if, if this episode actually records, we'll begin good shape yeah, we had some issues.

Speaker 1 0:36

Uh, it's interesting, no agenda had issues. Now we're having issues yeah, lots of fun.

Speaker 2 0:43

Well, fuck windows. That's all I have to say I didn't screw up anything.

Speaker 1 0:48

Windows and zoom decided to screw up on my PC and on your Mac. Yeah, so you couldn't hear me. I couldn't get my audio to work, had to reboot and then, as soon as I could hear you and you could hear me, I could hear myself, and that turned out to be a Zoom setting.

Speaker 2 1:06

Yeah, I think Zoom had an update, is my guess, yeah, I don't know that's usually when settings get messed up is because, for whatever reason, when they do an update, they decide that, well, we don't really care about what settings you used used to have on here, we'll just put new ones on you know, and between that and windows deciding to just, oh fuck it, we'll, we'll, uh, push out an update.

Speaker 1 1:35

And who? Cares if they actually need the update or now.

Speaker 2 1:39

You can't critical windows on manual updates.

Speaker 1 1:41

I've done that before uh, you cannot do windows 11 on manual updates anymore, so you gotta be shitting me, you can only delay the updates.

Speaker 2 1:50

But you can't just say look, don't worry about it, I'll do it myself later. Nope, oh, that sucks.

Speaker 1 1:55

You couldn't do that in Windows 10 either.

Speaker 2 1:57

I'm pretty sure I had mine turned off for a while, the only way you could possibly do, that is, with the enterprise or long-term support version. But even the pro version registry hack for it. Maybe that's fine, but there's no supported, legitimate way to do it.

Speaker 1 2:20

Okay, so you, uh, you were out gallivanting across the globe again not so much the globe as the country, but sure I was uh up in virginia any good stories of travel oh my god what uh, no, I was south of there, I was in norfolk you know, just by some naval, naval bases right, right, yeah, naval security, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 2:47

You know what really bugs me? I hate Dulles, but it's like the most convenient connection through and there's not a good direct flight, which is just like crazy to say right. But anyway, long story short, what bugs me so much about Dulles is when you're hopping on a little regional jet to go from Dulles to, let's say, norfolk.

Speaker 2 3:18

Right right.

Speaker 1 3:19

If you're on like a little Ember Air 175 or something like that, you're going outside.

Speaker 2 3:27

Ember Air 175's got the best first class seats of any small plane. No it doesn't? Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 3:34

How so.

Speaker 2 3:36

Of any small plane, they've got the most room.

Speaker 1 3:39

It's. There is no first class on this plane, dude.

Speaker 2 3:42

Well then you're flying the wrong Embraer 175. The Embraer 175 was a 1x1 first class.

Speaker 1 3:48

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 3:49

it's one and two yeah, that's called coach yeah, and that's all that's on this flight anyway. Needless to say, so you're, you're literally going outside, um, like upstairs and so on, and it's not even covered or anything like that. Like, iah, they've got some cover for you, right, delos? No, so it's raining pretty hard and everything, so I have to run up the stairs and I'm running late because of the connection and everything and, first of all, no room for my bags. So obviously I've got to go run out in the rain and put the bags in check and all that and, needless to say, it just was a cluster. And then, after I get on the plane, I'm wet and grumpy and not in a good mood and, uh, anyway, take off.

Speaker 1 4:44

Pretty rough flight because of the weather. And we got to land. Uh, we got to land in norfolk and I gotta tell you, gene, this is the most I've flown quite a bit in my life. Right, this is the most scared I have ever been during a landing, really. Yes, so we are at a 15 to 20 degree, uh, left right tilt. Oh, wow, so the side of the plane I'm on is it like it pointed towards the ground? Ish, right, and I'm just sitting there thinking about that delta flight going.

Speaker 2 5:26

Oh fuck oh, fuck oh fuck, clip over. Yeah, and at the last second he slams it over hard and it we, we bounced yeah, like it was a hard, I will say, being a uh season 10 000 hour sim pilot, that um, when you're coming in a strong crosswind it's it's easier for the pilot to do what you're describing than to simply use the rudder?

Speaker 2 5:54

Yeah, because that's what he will do right before he lands. But if you use the rudder, your plane is going to be facing in a direction that is not going down the runway, like your center line of the plane is going to be like 15 degrees off axis, and that's scarier.

Speaker 1 6:17

Well, regardless it was a, my butthole is puckered mullet, I'll put it that way.

Speaker 2 6:23

So yeah, Was that the most eventful thing?

Speaker 1 6:27

Oh no, we had, there were lots of eventful thing. Oh no, we had, there were lots of eventful things on this trip. But you know, it's all good. All right Good good, yeah, yeah Got. I had a shitty flight up there, shitty flight back. Spent some good time with the customer and did everything I needed to do.

Speaker 2 6:46

Got a good buy of tickets on shitty air. Well, you know you know, spelled c-i-t-y yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I, I'm tracking, but okay yeah, yeah, thank you, south park you're welcome anyway.

Speaker 1 6:59

No, um no, we we had a good time. It was good uh, but you know, it just uh got the project kicked off the way I needed to Everything.

Speaker 2 7:10

But I had to get up. You should have taken Southeastern Airlines.

Speaker 1 7:13

Yeah, I had a 6 am flight home. Oh, that's no good. So I had to get up. You know we didn't start dinner until 8. And then, yeah, and then I had to get up and come back, but all that went well and then I drove up to my parents and yeah went out and had some good a good time.

Speaker 2 7:36

This weekend got to shoot my uh pdws so made up fertile and they they're shooting, as you expected uh, quite frankly, a little bit better, um, even better.

Speaker 1 7:51

Yeah, like the mck. Uh, I am surprised at how much I like it yeah it's a little heavier. Uh, the optic is non-reciprocating there. There's a lot of things I like about that, but that said, theig is just so sick yes, and to the point where my soon-to-be 80-year-old mother.

Speaker 1 8:15

I got her to shoot it and she was like, oh my God, I got to get me one of these and I may have to make your dad give me his. I was like, no, no, no, we have a path, I will get you one for your birthday.

Speaker 2 8:28

Don't worry.

Speaker 1 8:30

Nice.

Speaker 2 8:31

Well, it actually makes sense because really what's on that gun is an arm brace meant for somebody that has trouble holding the gun. So it totally makes sense for old people.

Speaker 1 8:43

Oh, absolutely, and for her, you know she's like. Well, I want it for a different purpose, but yeah For her. You know she's old enough and small enough and everything. She can't hold her AK anymore really and be accurate with it. But from you know 20, 25 yards she was hitting the A-zone on the silhouette, even rapid firing. So functional accuracy right.

Speaker 2 9:11

This is a good thing, Very good. Yeah, that is one of those things where I guess at some point, like shotgun becomes a less practical defensive weapon just because of the weight and recoil. Yes, I still love my shotguns for defense oh hey, there is nothing.

X Platform Cyber Attack Debate

Speaker 1 9:33

Nothing wrong with a shotgun loaded with some some real nice nylon coated bullets well, I mean, you gotta alternate between uh, buckshot and birdshot, right, you always want your, especially for a home defense gun. You want you want your first loads to be fairly light birdshot, and the reason why, so you don't over penetrate in the house. And then you want the buckshot for when they're running away. Well, remember what shotgun which is not legal advice, by the way.

Speaker 2 10:05

No, definitely not. You remember what you're gonna get uh, sega, I'm guessing.

Speaker 1 10:14

No, the tavor makes a shotgun. Yeah, I did not know this.

Speaker 2 10:17

Yeah, yeah it's, uh, I think it's toward 12 model, but it's got three rotating magazines, so it's a. It's like a three three a magazine revolver and it's uh, uh, but three different tubes. Yeah, three, three tubes, basically, so you can load three different types of ammo and this rotates the appropriate one whenever you want to shoot.

Speaker 1 10:40

Cool, yeah, and it's a, it's a bullpup, so it's compact so, now that we've talked about guns and travel, okay, so we're talking, we're checking off bingo cards okay yeah, well, I mean, come on, this last week we've got a little bit to cover so do you want to start? It's got the most recent or work backwards or do you want to talk about? You know what happened earlier in the week, like trump speech.

Speaker 2 11:10

I can't remember what started after the last show. That's the problem. It's like it's all blending together so I don't remember. Like what was the last one, last trump things we talked about and what's mainly the zielinski uh debacle that was last week. The facepalm moments, yeah, yep. Well, how about the Ukrainian attack on Elon Musk? Now? Fake news, fake news, that's totally real. I've been trying to get X was down all morning.

Speaker 1 11:43

Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 11:45

Ukrainians.

Speaker 1 11:46

How do you prove it's Ukrainians.

Speaker 2 11:48

Because nobody else wants to take it down.

Speaker 1 11:52

Russia and they can make it look like it's the Ukrainians.

Speaker 2 11:55

Russia absolutely does not want to take it down. Russia's been super happy with Elon. Okay, all I'm saying is they just want to buy more stock, even Dude.

Speaker 1 12:06

What pisses me off is when Elon Musk comes out and says you know the IP addresses originated in Ukraine. Okay and.

Speaker 2 12:16

He technically did not say that. He said based on Ukrainian IP addresses. He didn't say they originated. They could have found some elements of ip addresses written into the packets, not necessarily as source material, but you don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 12:35

My point is don't assume that he's just looking at simple you know okay, but I I think I can speak with some authority on cybersecurity matters so can I point is that we don't know.

Speaker 2 12:48

So let's not invent, let's not be fake news, let's not invent things that he didn't actually say and attribute it to him.

Speaker 1 12:55

Okay, so what I'm saying is attribution is fundamentally impossible.

Speaker 2 13:05

There are certain. If people are using tools right, assuming they're not doing this by hand there are certain signatures which can be analyzed that certain tools tend to have.

Speaker 1 13:17

Sure, and those same signatures can be faked a la WikiLeaks Vault 7.

Speaker 2 13:22

Of course they can, absolutely, and we're very good at doing that kind of stuff. But what I found interesting is that, um, uh, if you look at the most likely candidates that would be happy about this occurrence, there's really only two. There's ukraine, who has been very upset that elon musk has even suggested that without his satellites, that they wouldn't be winning the war, because they're always winning the war, and the uh, the vote blue people that seem to be on an absolute bender right now in trying to go after Elon by burning and probably soon blowing up his dealerships. I mean, my Tesla stocks is just gummed on the toilet as a result of this, which sucks. Well, buy the dip. I'm going to buy the dip.

Speaker 1 14:15

Yeah, Well, I think there's lots of people in the deep state, including those who are very capable of falsifying signatures, that are not happy with Elon Musk right now. So, for what it's worth, I just attribution other than to a group with certain methodologies. So tactics, techniques and procedures is one area where you can sort of start to isolate individual groups. But you really have to have human intelligence validate that it is that group. So you can have indications that it's something, but without the human side of it you cannot fully validate that from pure signals intelligence. I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 15:08

I'm gonna assume that he has access to backbone information through the us government why would you make that assumption? Because if I was him I absolutely would, and to that extent, under what?

Speaker 2 15:23

excuse national security. He, he literally is the top government official working directly for the president, and he's being attacked right now. So I think it's legitimate. So I would say that you can absolutely, having access to the bandwidth and and the logs from the uh, the underwater cables, that you can figure out where this is coming from, not by looking at IP addresses but by looking at the actual flow of data of the packets.

Speaker 1 15:58

So I think I'm going to disagree, because you can determine continent, but without having control of the entirety of the network and data stream, you can't do that. What do you think we?

Speaker 2 16:10

have Five Eyes for.

Speaker 1 16:13

Five Eyes does not have a global monopoly on the network.

Speaker 2 16:18

No, they don't.

Speaker 1 16:19

And not only that. Five Eyes that's another story we need to talk about are pretty pissed off at us right now.

Speaker 2 16:23

Oh, yeah, yeah. So we talked about the other thing that we don't know and that's why I say let's not put stuff out there, because we don't know is maybe this attack happened over a Starlink link. Maybe they were getting flooded to X, not coming across the undersea's cables, but actually going through Starlink. And then he absolutely could determine where it's coming from.

Speaker 1 16:48

Starlink doesn't have enough bandwidth. Maybe they were trying to shut down Starlink and then he absolutely could determine where it's coming from. Starlink doesn't have enough bandwidth.

Speaker 2 16:51

Maybe they were trying to shut down Starlink.

Speaker 1 16:54

I mean you. All right If he let's presume. Let's presume you're correct. The only way Elon Musk could 100% definitively know this, in my opinion I think you have a point is if this was to a bot network and he saw the command and control traffic come up over a Starlink network and he knew where that endpoint was.

Speaker 2 17:24

Yeah, but even if we don't know where the command originated right, let's say the botnet is in Ukraine, but we don't know where the command originated, right, let's say the botnet is in Ukraine, but we don't know where the command originated, Would you still not call it Ukrainian traffic? I would you know if China gets a whole bunch of computers in Mexico coming here, it's controlled from China, but it's still Mexican traffic coming to do a flood.

Speaker 2 17:50

Okay, I still think it's a little disingenuous because you know, I think Musk tends to speak with a greater level of assurance than he actually has. I'll totally give you that Like he's full of shit, basically a lot of times. But I also don't want to just dismiss him outright, because that's what we're absolutely going to see on mainstream media today if you bother watching it on nbc and all other crap networks is they're going to say russians launched cyber attack against elon musk via ukraine, quite possibly, which they're going to just come up with out of thin air. They're not even going to have the level of conversation we're having.

Speaker 1 18:55

They're purely going to base it on wishful thinking well, like I said, my problem is with attribution, because I don't think attribution is possible.

Speaker 2 19:08

Yeah, but that's yeah well, it could certainly originate here and then just be you know dump on ukraine. But there again, if you think about it, the people that actually hate musk also love ukraine, so they would not blame ukraine for this. They would probably try and blame russia, like they would try to use russian ips if it was done somewhere else. Uh, russia does not want to damage Elon. Elon is on the brink of cutting access off for Ukraine completely for Starlink. They would like that. If anything, russia is going to be trying to, you know, convince Elon that that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 19:46

Yep Gives a motive to fake, the fake the attack from Ukraine.

Speaker 2 19:56

Yeah, maybe, maybe, but it's what the point is, is it was a genuine um, there was genuine down servers, or at least the traffic couldn't get through on x because I was having issues so it's not just an isolated thing. It's pretty broad and my VPN was coming out of Mexico so it was a global outage which is also interesting, because we have to somewhat presume that X is more than one data center. Yes, geographically dispersed, to say the least.

Speaker 1 20:30

Yeah, you know, x is More than one server, more than one data center. Yes, geographically dispersed, to say the least.

Speaker 2 20:36

Yeah, yeah, I would just kind of assume that there's an X data center at every Tesla factory at this point.

Speaker 1 20:44

Oh, I guarantee it's more broad than that.

Speaker 2 20:47

Mm-hmm. So I don't know. It's interesting. I mean, in a lot of ways I think musk is a little naive that he didn't expect this to be happening. Right, because yeah he. He is mostly stayed out of politics, just being mostly a memer and saying things that clearly most people agree.

Speaker 2 21:15

Yeah, shit-talking, memeing and saying things that are sort of obvious duh. But now that he's gotten into positions where he's doing things that the elites don't like, he's got a target on his back, and not just for assassination, but also for financial assassination. He's got a target on his back, and not just for assassination, but also for financial assassination. So where before it might've been some upset investors that were kept trying to tank his stock, um and fuck with him, now you have people that don't really care about his stock but don't like the man, and they're doing the same thing and trying to take a stock, get his companies to to be, uh, perceived as undesirable, taking his companies like X and make them unreliable, and so I think more and more of this is going to happen. So he's he's unfortunately. What he's doing is something we all want him to do, but I don't think he really understood the price he's going to pay to do it Kind of like Jesus.

Speaker 1 22:22

How do you figure?

Speaker 2 22:25

Well, I think you know he's innocent.

Speaker 1 22:31

Yeah, but Jesus knew exactly what was going to happen to him.

Speaker 2 22:34

Why did he keep asking his father about it then?

Speaker 1 22:37

What do you mean?

Speaker 2 22:39

Well, I mean, if he knew what was going to happen, he sure as hell wasn't acting like it.

Speaker 1 22:45

How so.

Speaker 2 22:48

How so? I don't know. I don't have the biblical numbers in front of me here to reference, but there have been a number of conversations that Jesus was having with his father, or, at least you know, praying in a way that very much indicates he didn't know what was going on or he wasn't happy about what was happening um I think christ was definitely, you know um of mixed feelings and going through the human aspect of trepidation. There you go, that'll help you. What's up? Mark 13 or mark 15, 34?

Speaker 1 23:43

uh my god, my god, why have you forsaken me? I?

Speaker 2 23:52

I don't see how that's relevant I mean, if you have not happening, he's just executing a plan that he himself created, right?

Speaker 1 24:00

correct, but he's this is. This comes into the understanding the holy trinity. And do we really want to be derailed and go down this rabbit hole?

Speaker 2 24:10

we can have a catholic episode some other time I'm not catholic, so no, we can't oh, okay, all right, fine, we'll do an Islam episode sometime you just can't draw a picture.

Speaker 1 24:22

That's all I mean. You'll just have to get Muhammad on for that one.

Speaker 2 24:27

I'm sure we can. In fact, my delivery driver for the chicken, I think, was Muhammad, so I should be able to get one on um. So my point is that elon was, I think, typically of himself, optimistic, naive and not really anticipating the the giant, uh shit storm that will be circling him for the next four years oh fuck that.

Speaker 1 25:02

It probably circle him for the rest of his life in some way.

Speaker 2 25:05

Yeah, yeah, but you know probably will, but certainly the biggest will be in the next four years as he continues to work in this arena well, and you're assuming he doesn't have a position in the Vance administration. Fair enough. In a lot of ways. I think we've kind of gotten a hint of why Vivek has a higher IQ than Musk. He saw the writing on the wall. He's like, yeah, you know what, I'm going to go govern Ohio. That sounds way safer than trying to go through and clean out the federal government fair enough.

Speaker 1 25:48

Fair enough, it also puts vivek in a great position to be tapped to be vance's vice president uh, can he as a non-native-born American? He is a native-born American. No Musk I was talking about.

Speaker 2 26:04

Vivek, oh Vivek, yeah, oh, sorry, sorry, I was still thinking of Musk. Yeah, vivek, I think, has always kind of had that in the back of his mind as well. Yeah, then we'd have an Indian administration and we'd be complete.

Speaker 1 26:19

We'd have what.

Speaker 2 26:22

An Indian administration administration and we'd be complete. We'd have what? An indian administration. We would have three out of four indians in the uh first families and the vice presidential family, because vance is married to an indian gal, yeah, so we'd be celebrating, um, uh, what do you call it? What the hell is it called? I don't know, We'd be celebrating Holly right now Holly parties. Which is fun. Just gotta wear some clothes afterwards.

Speaker 1 26:57

Yeah, to say the least. And for those who don't know, you know, this is where the pigments get thrown around and stuff like that it's a pretty happy time if you haven't ever gone.

Speaker 2 27:11

If you're ever in a neighborhood that is high Indian ethnic neighborhood, make sure you make friends enough to get invited to a holly party okay okay, so it sounds like you are not going to be doing that.

Speaker 1 27:30

I am not and I have plenty of Indian neighbors. Thank you very much. Most of them are pretty good people. You what you mean those people I said. Most of them are pretty good people I know what you meant.

Trump's Address to Congress

Speaker 2 27:45

All right, what else we got?

Speaker 1 27:50

uh well, trump gave an address to a joint session of congress that was during this last week, wasn't that? Yeah, that was quite the, uh, quite the address uh, yeah, we had a member of congress get expelled from the house and then censured.

Speaker 2 28:09

Yeah yeah, and we had a. All the democrats, except the one that got kicked out, were basically sitting down for praise to American citizens who had either good things or bad things happen to them, because they hate Americans. We all knew that, but this pretty much proved it, and even commentary from a lot of Democrats was like why are they just sitting there when he's talking about you know things like a child who survived cancer and effectively they're booing things like that? Or they're talking about how well, I just hope that child doesn't commit suicide. That's all I have to say.

Speaker 1 28:53

You saw that? Yeah, I did. Then it was pretty disgusting.

Speaker 2 28:55

How disgusting is that.

Speaker 1 28:59

Um well, almost equally as disgusting as Al Green standing up there and doing what he was doing in a very aggressive manner, being warned multiple times and, you know, being shown the door. The bigger problem here really is did you catch the sergeant at arms looking at Nancy Pelosi almost to ask permission? No, oh man, you got to go back and look at that Really.

Speaker 2 29:33

Yes, Like he was very unsure of himself, especially when Al Green didn't just immediately capitulate and go along.

Speaker 1 29:44

He went to ask nancy if he could kick him out. Literally looked over at nancy and she shook her head and she said go ahead.

Speaker 2 29:50

Yep, wow, talk about corruption. Oh yeah, I think I should fire everybody the whole they're working on it in dc.

Speaker 1 30:00

They're working on it, the whole dc staff should go did you, you, you heard and I don't want to get off the trump speech yet, but you heard how many employees the va is going to lay off I haven't known. I think it's like 84 uh 8400, is that? How many percent? Is that, though? It's what they've added since 2019.

Speaker 2 30:23

Oh, that's not that many of them. They need to lay off a good 70% of those people and then hire some folks that actually want to help veterans.

Speaker 1 30:33

I really think we need a minimalist administrative state that is rotated out with a lot of frequency.

Speaker 2 30:47

Yep, so what I would say?

Speaker 1 30:50

maybe term limits for all federal employees Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 30:55

Yeah, cause you. You gotta think of it as a service, not a career. You should never have career federal employees in any sector. I I've never heard of a good rationale for doing that. This was. This was I. I wrote a freshman college paper on this topic because it seemed obvious back then, you know, like 100 years ago, back when I was in college because people have human nature not, uh, you know, ideal nature and human nature includes self-preservation as an extremely high motivation, and self-preservation doesn't simply mean getting enough food to eat. It means, however high I got, I will do everything in my power to prevent myself from dropping down from that level, and that's why you have career employees that have been in the government for 35 years. And you have guys like what you just mentioned the surgeon in arms, who's probably been there for 35 years in one capacity or another, looking to the woman that he feels still has the power nancy pelosi, not the, the actual, uh president speaker of the house yeah, well, the the old speaker of the house yeah, right, but no speaker

Speaker 1 32:17

of the house, nor advance the he should have been looking to mike Johnson, not Nancy Pelosi is the poor. Vance no, no, no. The Speaker of the House presides over joint session.

Speaker 2 32:32

Okay, well, fine, but the point is he shouldn't have been looking at Nancy Agreed. So this is a problem. This is a problem. Problem that it's an insidious problem? Yeah, it's, it's a problem with that particular person, but that's an example of the the systemic problem. We have systemic uh, you know not racism. We have systemic, uh, what, what's the word for it? What would be the word for it when people are nepotism entrenched like that they're.

Speaker 2 33:07

Uh well, it's corruption, it's definitely systemic corruption, but it but it's like. It's basically like the mob, right. So you're, you're, you're checking to see whether you have permission from somebody that can literally kill you, not somebody that can literally kill you not somebody that can fire you, because getting fired is one thing, but getting whacked is a whole different thing.

Speaker 1 33:27

Yeah, speaking of, did you see Nancy Pelosi chewing her cud the entire time?

Speaker 2 33:34

I saw that she was. I thought she was like wiping lipstick or something off with a handkerchief.

Speaker 1 33:40

Oh no, she's sitting there like her, chewing her, like grinding her teeth.

Speaker 2 33:45

Oh is she okay, yeah, you've been paying attention a hell of a lot to nancy pelosi dude. She's like triple your age.

Speaker 1 33:51

Just stop it trust me, there is no attraction there. Aoc, you might catch me on every now and then. But you know, hey, yeah. Well, you know which one I'm looking at uh, luna, yeah, so in trump's speech we got a interesting bit of data that has been really hard to track down. We got the number of executive orders and executive actions he is thus far yeah.

Speaker 2 34:23

Yeah, I didn't realize it was that high well, and that's the thing is.

Speaker 1 34:29

Uh, I've literally heard people come out and say oh, he's only done 200 executive orders. Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa yeah the distinction between executive order and executive action is semantics at best, and the total number is over 650 which means he's averaged a hundred plus per week fuck off.

Speaker 2 34:48

Is the difference that the executive orders he gives a pen as a souvenir and the executive actions he keeps the pen? Is that the main difference?

Speaker 1 34:58

the main difference is the level of um. So an executive order is an order to a secretary or another cabinet. You know a cabinet member to go do something. Yeah, the executive action is no. The president is saying this is what will be done directly is my understanding whatever it is, it's a pretty damn high number, which is great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 35:24

It's ridiculously high. I think he's. He's going to be ahead of literally every other president ever in the first year, if he's not already.

Speaker 1 35:33

I he's already surpassed his entire previous term. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 35:39

I think, his first term. He probably looks bad at himself and thinks that he was effectively a ceremonial president, like he was told. Mr president, we're gonna here's your schedule for the day. We're gonna need you to go here for a photo op with the uh, blah, blah, blah, we're gonna need to have you go blah. And he was just kind of executing what other people were telling. I think this time around he's acting like he's in charge and this is what we wanted from him the first time, but at least we're getting it the second time.

Speaker 1 36:13

Yeah, so here's the definitions. So an executive order does not, cannot replace statutes, congress. However, when there is a gap in legislation, the executive order is a tool where presidents can share clear directives For example, fdr issuing executive orders during World War II that permitted the internment of American citizens versus executive action. This is a directive. This is a directive. This is a direction. The president gives information on what the executive branch does and how. So it's less interpretation and more. This is what you shall do. So more or less what I said.

Speaker 2 36:56

It's so amazing that an executive order from FDR to basically put all Japanese people in prison camps seemed like nobody objected to it, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 37:09

I mean, who the fuck are you that you're going to presume that that's a legal order instead of saying you know, fuck off.

Speaker 2 37:17

I'm not even sure that the Congress could do that legally. But the president sure as hell couldn't.

Speaker 1 37:26

No, it's a violation of what? Sixth Amendment?

Speaker 2 37:32

I think more than one amendment the yeah, it's certainly presumption of guilt, right, it's also the? Uh, uh, what's the? The? I mean just you, you can start with the first one, just write to assemble right, go down the list.

Speaker 1 38:00

And the sixth amendment is the speedy trial and trial by peers, right, right.

Speaker 2 38:08

Seventh amendment that is eighth amendment. Yeah, so sixth, seventh and eighth at least pretending like we have racism today when in the 40s the Democrats were pushing this kind of crap of just interning everybody with slanty eyes is insane. Gene, Gene, there is no what.

Speaker 1 38:33

We were at war, they could be saboteurs. Oh yeah, and war changes.

Speaker 2 38:36

What exactly about the Constitution?

Speaker 1 38:39

Nothing.

Speaker 2 38:39

Exactly.

Speaker 1 38:41

So how are you going to feel when we have to put the canadian americans in internment camp? Well, that's different they have the flappy heads oh, you know, all right, I've been singing blame candidates myself for like two weeks now yeah. So I want to definitely talk about the canadian elections oh my god that. But before we do that, anything else on trump's speech we want to cover, because we this was a two-hour speech and it was barely scratching dude.

Speaker 2 39:10

The guy did a full stand-up routine okay and off the cuff. A half of that speech was just totally impromptu yes, presidents always get standing ovation, but I I've never seen so many people smiling like genuinely laughing at a president's remarks the way that I saw up here obama had a little bit of that. I'll definitely give obama that he made jokes, or at least he read jokes, but uh, trump is a next level comedian.

Speaker 1 39:40

Trump's a genuinely funny guy.

Speaker 2 39:43

He is.

Speaker 1 39:43

Like off the cuff, and he knows it.

Speaker 2 39:46

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 39:48

And you know, like all the times he pointed at the Democrats and said they're never going to stand up for this. They're never going to stand up. That was 100% off the cuff.

Speaker 2 39:55

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 39:57

And he was calling them out on their bullshit.

Speaker 2 40:00

The beauty of him doing that is it put them between the rock and the hard place, Because if they stand up after he says that, then they look like they're literally doing it just to be contrarian to him. If they don't, it proves them right. Once he said that there is no good thing for them to do other than just do nothing and look like they're doing exactly what he said you, you did see.

Speaker 1 40:28

So this is related to the trump speech. So I don't think we're getting off of it, but when the uh, when al green was censured on monday, um, and they called for trump or I guess, no, it was on it was the day after the speech.

Speaker 1 40:45

Yeah, um, sorry, it's been a long week yeah I'm a little rum dumb, but literally when the censure happened, the democrats uh, when he was called down to the well of the House to go face censure, they literally walked down with him and then started singing we Shall Overcome. And Mike Johnson, to me, did something stupid and Mike. Johnson, to me, did something stupid Instead of taking advantage of this.

Speaker 2 41:30

He declared a recess, let them clear out. Then came back and did it anyway.

Speaker 1 41:39

Okay, what do you? He should have forced the issue and said for them to stop that they were impeding Congress, they were impeding a congressional proceeding, that this was out of order. They called for a floor vote to find all the members of Congress who are doing that you know to be abridging the rules of the House and to censure all of them. Interesting.

Speaker 2 42:11

Okay.

Speaker 1 42:13

Now some people have called for him to go all the way to try and have the Sergeant of arms remove them from the house.

Speaker 2 42:24

Everybody.

Speaker 1 42:27

And I think that's what they were wanting him to do.

Speaker 2 42:29

Yeah, that could be, that could be, because then they're kind of like oh see, see, he's still a Tarian. He's a dictator, just like his buddy.

Speaker 1 42:36

Putin over there. Well, and that's why I think, having that intermediate step of saying, okay, we're going to censure all of you for this, and when they erupt and they do all that, then call the recess and come back and do exactly what they did, but you know, times 20.

Speaker 2 42:54

Yeah, yeah. I think obviously the best thing to do is just keep showing those clips and make people that voted for Democrats just think twice next time. The other thing is, I think, that only extending the courtesy of recognition of the same rights that I have to people who aren't trying to kill me.

Speaker 1 43:31

Well, and who recognize you?

Speaker 2 43:32

As soon as you start trying to kill me, all your rights in my eyes disappear, and I certainly extend that to people that are trying to kill Elon Musk and everybody else, because it's a these are not isolated incidents. People didn't try and shoot Trump in an isolated bubble. They were doing it because of the encouragement they were receiving, in a large extent, from the last administration, who kept repeating over and over, along with the media, that trump needs to be stopped at all costs. Trump is literally hitler. If you had a chance to kill baby hitler, would you do it? Well, you've got a chance with trump now like I mean we saw.

Speaker 1 44:18

We saw the short film about what would have happened if Hitler had been killed.

Speaker 2 44:24

Which one I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 1 44:26

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did, we did.

Speaker 2 44:27

We did, yes, a wonderful, perfect society in New York would form. Yes, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Well, at least for people that aren't, you know, anti-Semitic, well, at least for people that aren't, you know, anti-semitic. But the point being that, I think there comes a time when the phrase enemies, foreign and domestic, has to be taken seriously.

Speaker 1 45:01

And domestic enemies present just as great a threat as the worst of the foreign enemies. Okay, put them in a fucking gulag. There you go. That's the problem.

Speaker 2 45:09

That's not a problem, it's 100% is a problem.

Speaker 1 45:12

Here's what I would say Do not confuse dissent with disloyalty, and we have to be very cautious that that is what we are making sure that we are not doing. So we need a loyal dissenting group. What we don't need is a seditious group, and we have to distinguish between the two. Okay, a seditious group and we. We have to distinguish between the two. Okay, I'm with you, go ahead. I mean that that's just my opinion. Is it is okay for people to dissent? Um, it is not okay for them to be disloyal, and I guess that's where I'm drawing the distinction.

Speaker 2 46:01

They can dissent to the point where they're not trying to kill you. When they start killing you, it is no longer dissent.

Speaker 1 46:12

I am not disagreeing with that, but my point is just because someone protests or does X, y and Z, doesn't mean they Like. There should be a place for the loyal opposition. Yeah, purgatory okay you.

Speaker 2 46:34

So tell me what. What was the place for the loyal opposition for george washington? How did they accommodate all the people that were against the new government and were against washington being president? What was? And I don't know the answer. I'm actually asking I'm not trying to make a point like what was the process for dealing with loyal opposition back then?

Speaker 1 46:59

uh, well, I mean, you could argue that's how we ended up with the alien seditions act, um, but I, I, and that was not under washington, that was under um madison afterwards. But I, I would argue that you know, you have to look back at how. I think the best example would be how Washington and his troops dealt with Tories or those people who were willing to sit on the sidelines.

Speaker 2 47:32

And how was that?

Speaker 1 47:34

They basically considered them their countrymen and left them alone, unless they were actively engaged in hostilities hostilities against them okay, so for instance, if there was a loyalist city, the colonial army never went and marched and burned down that city, because those were, those were colonists. They were. Whether they thought the way we should or not. They are our countrymen is the way they were thought of. Now, if a loyalist threw on a red coat and joined the British Army, he would have been shot and taken as a prisoner of war at the very least yeah.

Speaker 2 48:29

So according to AI, here social and political persecution, loyalists were often ostracized by their communities harassment, violence or imprisonment. Their properties were often confiscated by the patriots, by local governments, or imprisonment.

Speaker 1 48:44

Their properties were often confiscated by the patriots, by local governments. And don't confuse you asked about what Washington would do.

Canadian Elections and Global Politics

Speaker 2 48:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah, many loyalists fled to Canada. Well, that explains a lot.

Speaker 1 49:00

Yeah, by the way, I was going to use the purgatory comment as a transition to the Canadian elections, but oh yeah, that's not a bad transition, frankly.

Speaker 2 49:12

British government provided compensation and land grants to Loyalists who immigrated to Canada. Did you know this? I did. Establishment of loyalist communities in regions like Nova Scotia and Ontario.

Speaker 1 49:28

Let's talk about Ottawa. Carney took 86% of the votes, yeah.

Speaker 2 49:44

And he is. I've honestly never heard of this guy until just now, or, you know, the last couple days.

Speaker 1 49:51

Mm-hmm, I know he's definitely very anti-Trump, very anti-Trump and very globalist.

Speaker 2 49:58

Like he is a global banker by trade. Okay.

Speaker 1 50:04

Former governor of Bank of england okay, yeah, and uh bank of uh another international bank so he's never been in the house of commons, okay, um, um.

Speaker 2 50:22

I'm still not a hundred percent clear on what the hell the word elections actually means in Canada.

Speaker 1 50:27

No shit.

Speaker 2 50:29

It doesn't mean what I thought it meant.

Speaker 1 50:32

Agreed. I'm like wait what? When did this happen? What Huh? I thought Polly was leading the polls. What happened here?

Speaker 2 50:40

so, yeah, pierre was certainly talking like he was clearly the next guy in charge and how he's gonna, you know, work with trump, but wanted to make sure trump understands canada is independent and bloody, bloody blah. It turns out canada is just owned by china um yes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what does that mean for us? I mean, I know he's pledged to match american tariffs well, I you know what if he does that?

Speaker 1 51:23

here's the funny thing if he matches american tariffs, that would mean a reduction in tariffs well, I'm sure he means an increase in the american tariffs. Okay, not what he said actually it wouldn't.

Speaker 2 51:38

It wouldn't really mean a reduction. It would only mean a reduction for products like cheese and dairy products, which are crazy high taxed right now in Canada at like 2,000%.

Speaker 1 51:49

Yeah, it's insanity.

Speaker 2 51:51

There's certain products which are crazy tariffed, but even the regular products, like in Canada, american cars were always tariffed. It's not like Canada has their own car brand. Why would you tariff cars made by your neighbor if you make no cars yourself? What is the point of the tariff at that point? Revenue, that's it. It's just a tax. We'll just call it a tax, not a tariff then.

Speaker 1 52:19

Well, tariff is a type of tax. Just call it a tax, not a tariff fund.

Speaker 2 52:21

Well, tariff is a type of tax.

Speaker 1 52:23

Hmm, you know, I will say this Did you see the chick that was also running for PM for the Liberal Party? Uh-uh, she was talking about asking France for nukes.

Speaker 2 52:36

Really. Yes, oh, that's where that headline came from. I saw the headline about Canada getting nukes and you saw my response to that right.

Speaker 1 52:44

No, I didn't oh.

Speaker 2 52:45

I had a hilarious response. I even added you I can't believe you didn't see it. Well, twitter's been down, dude. Oh my God, there's his excuse. It's called X for one thing, but no, I responded to that saying that we can't allow nukes into the united states to be in such close proximity.

Speaker 2 53:08

We have a responsibility, and trump has a responsibility to the american citizens to prevent, uh, any kind of potentially hostile nukes from being within minutes reach in washington dc and frankly, the best course of solution is to immediately organize a special military operation by Trump to relieve Canada of the possibility of ever having nukes, to remove the possibility of having a NATO nation like Canada next door to America and to what was the third thing.

Speaker 1 53:42

I had three of them, uh, so we took nukes I can read your tweet now that twitter's back up, if you'd like.

Speaker 2 53:47

Oh, it did it come up? Well, it was brilliant.

Speaker 1 53:49

That's all I can say holy shit, canada's crazy liberals are pushing for nuclear weapons aimed at the us youtube link. We need to stop canada. If canada gets nuclear weapons, they they will start World War III immediately. We cannot have nuclear weapons this close to our backyard. It's imperative that Trump starts a special military operation to prevent nuclear weapons this close to our border in Canada. Remember Canada celebrated uh, remember Canada celebrated in actual World War II Nazi. Oh, yes, yes, okay. I was like where is he going with this? Remember Canada celebrated in actual World War II Nazi just a year ago by giving him the highest honor the country could bestow.

Speaker 2 54:38

So it's very, very likely full of nazis at sergine we need to denazify canada and prevent there from being nukes aimed at the us, and the sooner the better. Um, so yeah, I obviously I was, you know, tongue-in-cheek poking fun at the fact that this is literally what happened with ukraine and russia uh, no, I think you're completely serious well, I mean, some people may take it that way. Sure, I just, you know, I just treat mostly all I can say is if you're in alberta right now or saskatchewan, you wouldn't be a happy camper, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 55:22

You're probably pretty pissed, yeah, yeah. But beyond that, you know, I think it's time to go the way that quebec set up for you.

Speaker 2 55:37

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 55:39

And say you know what we out America, You're a boat. We out.

Speaker 2 55:51

Yeah it it's. It is craziness out there. Um, in the, at a time where a lot of countries are electing more conservative leadership, we have canada electing a more left-leaning leadership well, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1 56:12

When I saw the news of this, my immediate thought was okay, the globalists just struck back um, because it was looking like Polyev was going to win, and now we're going to be stuck with this.

Speaker 2 56:27

Infowars reporter, jamie White, found dead in Australia Sorry, dead in Austin Doing worse. Apparently they just killed one of Alex's reporters.

Speaker 1 56:38

Well, someone did Wow.

Speaker 2 56:39

That fucking Austin's a crazy place, man. Yeah, when you gonna move, uh, you know it's where the center of everything is.

Speaker 1 56:49

That is crazy, no no, there's literally nothing good about austin.

Speaker 2 56:56

The governor needs to force oh, and they're saying brutally murdered, not just died.

Speaker 1 57:06

Well, when the hell are you going to get out?

Speaker 2 57:07

That is crazy. Yeah, gun down. I gotta listen to alex after we're done, see what alex has to say about him. Uh, stab became worried when he didn't show up to work in the morning dude, it's getting crazy, I gotta tell you, I think liberals with guns is starting to trend.

Speaker 1 57:43

Well, let me just say this, and I probably shouldn't just say this, but I'm going to because I think it's important for other people to hear and them not think they're alone or insane for thinking this. Insane for thinking this, but if I am traveling to a state or area where I can legally be armed, I will legally be armed. Now am I going to walk into a client's office building packing? No, but I'll have it in the rental car outside.

Speaker 2 58:10

Yep.

Speaker 1 58:12

You know, I, I have body armor in my backpack. Mm-hmm, you know, I, I, I, I had body armor in my backpack, you know, and that's that may sound insane to some, but I guess it's just the Boy Scout in me. You know, I have an IFAC in my backpack, I have a tourniquet, I have an Israeli bandage. I've got stuff to get home. You know, I've got a flashlight pen, hell. I've got a toothbrush and toothpaste in my backpack.

Speaker 2 58:39

Jamie's last post of X was a retweet of Elon Musk's post about violence. Why are liberals so violent? Musk said 18 hours ago Legacy media propaganda is a majority part of the problem. That was the last thing that the guy retweeted before he got killed.

Speaker 1 58:58

Crazy.

Speaker 2 59:01

Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 59:10

I just don't know what we're going to do.

Speaker 2 59:14

I don't think he was brutally murdered. He was shot. They have no suspects.

Speaker 1 59:21

Oh, there's austin for you well, here's the thing um you know recently, um rutyard, whatever his name is from what if alt hissed said, by the end of the month, we would be at a thousand politically motivated deaths? And people have been making fun of him.

Speaker 2 59:40

That's true.

Speaker 1 59:43

This could escalate quickly and he could be not that far off.

Speaker 2 59:47

Yeah, yeah, I think I'm going to need to start loading all my magazines.

Speaker 1 59:53

I'm sorry, I'm going to start loading all my magazines. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 59:56

I'm going to start loading all my magazines.

Speaker 1 1:00:00

I don't have all of mine loaded, but I have a sufficient amount for deterrent. Let's put it this way If I run out of ammo, it was my time.

Speaker 2 1:00:19

Yeah, it's, you run out of ammo. You're going to have carpal tunnel. Well before you run out of ammo.

Speaker 1 1:00:31

Yeah, well, I don't know man, I just and maybe I'm paranoid, maybe I am just the lunatic people think I am, but I carry, I carry wherever I go. Um, I have a firearm in my truck, I, you know, I also have a first aid kit in my truck. I also have a jump start battery in my truck. It's just, I also have a first aid kit in my truck. I also have a jumpstart battery in my truck. It's just I. Better to defend myself, my family and the people that I care about than rely on anyone else.

Speaker 2 1:01:03

Yep, yeah, absolutely man.

Speaker 1 1:01:09

Anyway, canada's elections, uh, are definitely an interesting item, uh, I think, I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens here, because if one of the Canadian provinces decides to separate, that will be the end of Canada. It will collapse.

Speaker 2 1:01:28

Yep, it'll just become part of the UK.

Speaker 1 1:01:36

Parts of it will be. They're going to be based in the UK.

Speaker 2 1:01:38

Parts of it will be the UK, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:01:42

Yeah, so Go ahead.

Speaker 2 1:01:44

I was just going to say, when you start reading about politically motivated murders, especially in your city.

Speaker 1 1:01:56

Well, you're making an assumption're, you're making an interesting point.

Speaker 2 1:02:00

Well, I I highly doubt he was shot uh in his home by some random event. This is obviously politically motivated.

Speaker 1 1:02:10

Well, here's another one for you that's obviously politically motivated 44 tires were stolen off 11 different Teslas that were parked in League City. Yep, just stole the tires off of them.

Speaker 2 1:02:30

Yep.

Speaker 1 1:02:32

Now my understanding is Teslas have basically security cameras around them all the time.

Speaker 2 1:02:38

Yeah, full coverage. Yeah, so this should be an open and shut thing pretty quick, yeah, unless they're all wearing black and cramming spray paint and the first thing they do is know exactly where the cameras are and black them up.

Speaker 1 1:02:54

Yeah, but you've got to remember, though, that All that all right. Anyway, this is definitely a politically motivated thing, and that's the entire point I'm making here, right, yeah? So I think I my point is, the tesla's tires being stolen is far more likely to be politically motivated than, uh, potentially just a mugging gone wrong. Right, I think you can say that this is 100 politically motivated at this point. I don't know that. We know enough about the info wars reporters just say that it's not a mugging robbery.

Speaker 2 1:03:31

Nothing was missing nothing was missing.

Speaker 1 1:03:34

Okay, did the report say nothing was missing?

Speaker 2 1:03:39

no, I just made it up, but obviously it's right, it's true. And then you saw the picture of all the Tesla protesters here in Austin as well, right, yeah, yeah, a lot of paid protesters here.

Speaker 1 1:04:03

I want someone to explain to me why JD Vance's face is taking over the internet. What do you?

Speaker 2 1:04:11

mean Like memes or what.

Speaker 1 1:04:13

Yes, like fucking every meme is. Jd Vance no, he's not, he's really not.

Speaker 2 1:04:25

Well, he's got a normal looking face. He's not weird looking.

Speaker 1 1:04:30

I mean, when he's shaved he's very baby faced, but anyway.

Speaker 2 1:04:33

Well, no man should shave. No man, that that you know is of an adult age, agreed yeah did you uh?

Speaker 1 1:04:42

did you see the uh c, uh cbp app? What trump is doing?

Speaker 2 1:04:48

well, I only read the go home app. Did you read the whole article or just the headline? Uh, I listened to part of one of the reports yeah, so the headline is they changed the app which presumably all the illegals have installed in their free phones. They got from the government and they changed it to a go home app.

Speaker 1 1:05:09

Now go ahead and fill in the details uh self-deportation yeah, which is hilarious basically saying okay, I'm going home now I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier.

Speaker 2 1:05:22

This seems like such a good idea. It's like, look, you're all afraid that we're gonna come and pick you up and throw you in jail with canine dogs and, you know, stick your handcuffs on you and bring you out of the country. How about? Before that happens? You just make your way down to the border and then cross over without the handcuffs.

Speaker 2 1:05:45

Well and let us know that that's what you're doing and we'll let you go, yeah just send us a signal from the GPS on the phone that says it's no longer here. Yeah, yep, that's a good idea. Um, yeah, I, I don't know, man, it's. We're living in very interesting times.

Speaker 1 1:06:03

We keep saying that over and over, ben, but it's still true it keeps getting worse and worse yeah, I'm sure some people would say more and more interesting, but yeah, yes, in the chinese proverb may you live in interesting times, since interesting Sure Right right. This is not necessarily a good thing.

Speaker 2 1:06:26

No, What'd you send me a double trigger? Yeah, yeah, it reminded me of paintball. This is like right out of a paintball gun.

Speaker 1 1:06:32

Right, but it's on an AR. That's hilarious. Right out of a paintball gun Right, but it's on an AR. That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 1:06:36

It is. It's hard enough holding the paintball gun that weighs less and you don't have to fire as long a distance using two fingers like that. I would not want to do that two-finger technique on an AR.

Speaker 1 1:06:49

I wouldn't either, but you know, Inacted as fuck.

Speaker 2 1:06:52

Hey, it's all about how we dismantle and disable the nfa well, yeah, and I was having a conversation, somebody talking about silencers or suppressors, if you prefer.

Speaker 1 1:07:05

You know the hey, you know what absolutely silencers hold on the patent. The original patent used the term silencer there you go yeah.

Speaker 2 1:07:15

So, point being that they are literally a health and safety item that you would think the government would actually be mandating, like a motorcycle helmet, and then people would be bitching about how they don't want to put their silencer on, like that would be more consistent with other it's for your safety type laws that the government has.

Speaker 2 1:07:41

This is this literally would be the equivalent of the government saying you can ride your motorcycle, I just don't want to see a helmet on you unless you buy a stamp for what it's safety it has nothing to do with the gun's accuracy, has nothing to do with any other aspects of the gun and, as you clearly, uh correctly point out, even though it may be called a silencer, it is far from silent. You still hear a gunshot with suppressor on it from a fairly long distance. It's going to be louder than most sounds, unless you're sitting on the middle of a highway. So there's zero good arguments for why silencers should be banned, taxed or prevented Texans from buying them from Texas manufacturers without any federal government snooping Well here's what it comes down to, man.

Speaker 1 1:08:40

The reason why the NFA got through is really because of prohibition. Yeah, exactly, the mobsters and everything else. Oh, we got a crackdown on crime and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da Ah fuck that yeah. But I will say this DC may actually be healing. In what way? The Black Lives Matters Plaza right outside the White House. It's getting torn down oh thank God for little things.

Speaker 1 1:09:18

Yeah, hey, man, all I can say is Things are. I think there is a damn good chance Trump is going to tear down the federal government to a point where it is so weak that the states end up having to step up significantly.

Speaker 2 1:09:44

Well, that would be very good, obviously.

Speaker 1 1:09:46

Well, I mean, he's already there. They're talking about taking down the Department of Education, which others have talked about in the past. Absolutely should be happening. Send all that back to the states yep and the states that take more money than they send out. Sorry, that's not my problem. Um, I mean it could be tremendous set of tax relief coming our way. And you know, if you believe in the dollar milkshake theory, trump doing this is going to expedite the collapse of the global economy.

Speaker 1 1:10:24

Yeah, which is good for us, presuming we come out on top. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:10:32

Yeah, well, it's going to. Ironically, it would also be good for russia uh, it's not gonna be good for europe at all in any manner oh no, europe's fucked europe is completely fucked. Uh sorry european listeners, but that that's kind of just how it works here well, I mean your uh.

Speaker 2 1:10:56

Europe has been living on the bar time, in my opinion, anyway, because their, their economies have shifted to things that nobody actually needs. They are. They're making it more difficult for european durable products to be manufactured. They have been for decades now. They're it's getting to the point where even making cars in europe is almost beyond, uh, financial sense if you look at all the regulations that are in place not just for germany either, and certainly germany being the biggest economy in europe, that that plays a very large portion.

Speaker 2 1:11:35

Germany, without Russian energy and sticking to their idiotic shuttering of the nuclear plants, and their country is going to have brownouts for the next 15 years as a result of this.

Speaker 1 1:11:56

They could always restart the nukes.

Speaker 2 1:11:59

Can they or have they been disassembled?

Speaker 1 1:12:03

I doubt they have been disassembled. Okay, well, certainly the reactor vessels are still there.

Speaker 2 1:12:12

Okay.

Speaker 1 1:12:14

So you and Germany certainly has the technology to build new nukes if they want oh yeah, but how long does that take? Depends on the regulatory environment more than anything. Yeah, so in germany I have no idea. But you know what was it? Vogel 3 and 4 took almost a decade, wow, and it bankrupted Westinghouse. And had Southern Company not been the originating power company, they wouldn't have been built, they would not have been completed.

Speaker 2 1:12:53

Well, the AI agrees with you saying it's technically doable but politically suicidal in Germany.

Speaker 1 1:13:01

What AI are you using?

Speaker 2 1:13:04

Microsoft Ah yeah, copilot. It's the most handy one to where I'm sitting.

Speaker 1 1:13:12

One of the things I will say for Copilot, is it at least? Gives you its sources up front. It does, I like sitting. One of the things I will say for Copilot is it at least gives you its sources up front.

Speaker 2 1:13:18

It does Every time it gives you its sources. Now, the most fun AI is absolutely Grack. Grack 3 is great, especially the antagonistic version of Grack. Oh man, I could just sit there and talk to it for hours.

Speaker 1 1:13:34

Yeah, but you haven't gotten to play with palantir yet no, no, but it's. It is really fun by the way, I uh had a had an interesting conversation with uh, the product manager over at warp today okay because I'm wanting to use it for the team and as a corporate tool. So, uh, I got a meeting, started talking to them about some stuff. Um, one of the really cool things is we can link in our own llms really that's cool so we can have it use our llM in the background and do the processing so literally, you know, for commands and so on, we can leave it with theirs.

Speaker 1 1:14:19

But as the data comes out, we can send the data outputs to our LLM for processing and reviewing configs, looking against our standards and everything else, to flag items for a report versus having a human do it.

Speaker 2 1:14:35

Okay. It's huge, this, this could absolutely revolutionize the way we currently do assessments, point fingers at a machine for way more stuff.

Speaker 1 1:14:44

Now, I love it uh, you know, I I think, look, dude, I'm not gonna ask an AI to read legislation and tell me what it means.

Speaker 2 1:14:57

I do that all the time.

Speaker 1 1:14:59

Okay, well, I think that's where that fails. But reading a config and comparing it to a golden config for something similar and highlighting the differences and discrepancies and weighing that against a known risk register that you've developed absolutely doable that is. That's not really machine learning, right? Yeah, that's true. So yeah, anyway, there's. There's just some really cool stuff that's going on that can be done.

Speaker 2 1:15:31

There's a lot of stuff. There's more coming out of China as well. The cool thing I'm seeing I don't know if you've paid attention is all the latest projects in AI out of China are being open source.

Speaker 1 1:15:45

Yes, and they're all copies of proprietary data.

Speaker 2 1:15:48

But they're all open source. So I think that that's a good trend, because it hits two issues that historically have been non-standards for Chinese products and information, and that is that. Well, it's all proprietary crap and China's looking at it. Okay, take that off the table. If you're running it on your own system and it's open source and you can review the code you know.

Speaker 1 1:16:26

Yeah, but are you monitoring your network for data exfiltration enough to be confident in it Right Now? If this was on a disconnected machine that had no network connection, sure, run it and play with it, or in a virtual machine that had no network connection.

Speaker 2 1:16:43

Never install any AI in anything but a virtual machine. That goes without saying. You need to have a kill switch.

Speaker 1 1:16:52

Yeah, okay, cause they will escape, you know we're going to take over the world we've seen the prophecies man yes, terminator 2 got it so it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 1:17:08

It's just a question of when. It's not just terminator 2. There's actually a lot of stories that deal with that. There's a an article I was reading. Guy was talking about the latest advances in humanoid robotics and showing some stuff that I'd never seen before of human-looking robots that actually are human-proportioned. Have you seen this? Nope, yeah. So they don't look like you know squatty little humanoids with big backpacks. They literally look like the robots from Westworld. They don't have like perfect human faces or anything. There's no face, in fact, just a silver plate. But as far as, like you could put human clothes on them, they're human proportion wise. So they're about 6 feet tall and you know normal human proportion. That shit's coming. Why are you sending me an ex post about screwing your best friend's mom? I just thought it was funny. Jesus ben not sequitur much well, you're not supposed.

Speaker 1 1:18:23

I also sent you what happens in bump in the night, and you're a democrat, did you?

Speaker 2 1:18:28

say don't mention this on the show. You're like sending me links of things to look up for the show and then this is See, this is where I went wrong. I trusted your good judgment. Well, you ought to know better, shouldn't you? Yes?

Speaker 1 1:18:41

Yes, I should. What the hell are you thinking, ben? But I mean, come on, if that was your best friend's mom.

Speaker 2 1:18:46

I mean the fact that she's younger than me kind of makes this not really fair. She's well-ed. They look very plastic, but she's well proportioned. I don't care um gene.

Speaker 1 1:19:02

What makes tits fake?

Speaker 2 1:19:04

um plastic okay, um I. I disagree if I can, if I can touch them.

Speaker 1 1:19:13

They're real.

Speaker 2 1:19:15

No, definitely not. There's a big difference in touching real ones versus fake ones. I much prefer the real ones.

Speaker 1 1:19:22

Oh, there is a big difference between touching bad fake ones and real ones. Good fake ones are pretty good.

Speaker 2 1:19:30

Look visually. I absolutely like the look of the fake tits when they literally stand up by themselves with no bra. But I recognize that as good as that looks, it doesn't convert to touch. It's very different.

Speaker 1 1:19:48

Okay, just saying so did you also see the post that I sent you? That uh is a, a, uh, a vote, dim, uh sign, or something like that in arlington? That uh says we support our federal employees and the caption reads there's gay, they're super gay, and then there's simping for the bureaucracy gay. Like you didn't read that one, you didn't read the bump in the night with the dildo.

Speaker 2 1:20:17

You, no, no, you go to that, no, I didn't see a bump in the night with a dildo. What the hell are you sending me?

Speaker 1 1:20:22

the one above it.

Speaker 2 1:20:24

Jesus christ, what's that okay. So this is a picture of a dude holding a dildo, and so when you hear a bump in the night, but you're a democrat yes, you grab the first thing that's right next to you on your bed, which is exactly, yeah, of course ha, ha ha, that makes total sense it's a completely accurate picture of what happens in austin every night you haven't played.

Speaker 2 1:20:51

Uh, cyberpunk 77 right, no, okay, had you, you would be laughing your ass off. Because in that Cyberpunk 77, right, no, had you, you would be laughing your ass off. Because in that awesome game for adults there is a. There is a souvenir that is left for you after a night with a corporate employee that you meet in the game, which is a substantial size and arm length, and that weapon, as it's categorized in the game, as it's categorized in the game is actually has extremely high stats for For melee.

Speaker 2 1:21:40

Yeah for melee, for beating the crap out of somebody without killing them.

Speaker 1 1:21:46

Yeah it's.

Speaker 2 1:21:50

Let me see what it was called Cyberpunk. I don't remember off the top of my head what it was calledpunk. I don't remember off the top of my head what it was called Sir John Falistiff is the weapon name. Okay, cool, it's pretty funny. I like the humor in games these days because it's all sort of South Park humor. Hopefully that tends to be the humorous style of most games I play anyway, when they have humor.

Speaker 1 1:22:28

Oh my god, what did you send me?

Speaker 2 1:22:31

The review of Cyberpunk there.

Speaker 1 1:22:33

with talking about Dillo, it's a one-handed club yeah, uh I mean, this is right up there with the sense of humor of the people who put a bicycle horn on their ar. You know like imagine getting hearing hong Hong Kong before you get smoked. Or you know the guy who has proven that a silicone dildo can be an effective suppressor. Right Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 1:23:03

Oh yeah, I've seen that video.

Speaker 1 1:23:04

That's hilarious. Regulate this.

Speaker 2 1:23:08

Exactly, yeah, and that's not even single use either. Yeah, it's self-healing.

Speaker 1 1:23:20

Oh my god. Oh yeah, no, you don't know the horror of Madison. This is what we get for doing the episode at night, uh-huh, so, jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 1:23:41

So Ben, just put a dude's head. In fact, that might be your head.

Speaker 1 1:23:46

No, it's JD Vance dude. That's the funny part. No way. Yes, it's a JD Vance head on the previous picture.

Speaker 2 1:23:52

That is insane, all right.

Speaker 1 1:23:55

Anyway, obviously we're sounding like we picture. That is insane. Can someone please explain to me, please explain to me why JD Vance is fucking everywhere in memes right now? I don't get it Like what did I miss?

Speaker 2 1:24:08

I'm pretty tuned in United States baby Dude, I guess.

Speaker 1 1:24:14

I guess.

Speaker 2 1:24:15

You know we wish Trump a long and prosperous life and all that jazz, but I think jd's uh got teed up pretty good um, it all all comes down to how this goes um.

Speaker 1 1:24:31

Like I said, dude, I think we're headed for a global recession. I think this is gonna bring it on. The question is, yeah, uh, how we come out on the other side.

Speaker 2 1:24:40

I think one of the things that unfortunately we've talked about this in the past is gonna prove us one way or the other and I, I think, is gonna lean in the not so fun side is I don't think that any revolution can happen without bloodshed, and I think we're starting to see some elements of that already and I suspect we're going to see a lot more. We're going to start seeing systematic violence perpetrated by the left because they feel like you know, they're desperate, they feel like rats in the maze, they're not seeing the country turning back to their woke liberal ways anytime soon and they're going to start lashing out, and it's already been the case that the vast majority of the gun incidents out there are perpetrated by people that are on SSRIs and other drugs that they're taking. I think that will continue, but the motivation will go from just sort of semi-random to very clearly delineated political left violence.

Speaker 1 1:25:52

I tend to agree with you. I think that we are going to see, I think it's going to be an exponential curve. So as violence starts to happen, it's going to become more and more accepted and everything else. And I'll tell you, um, most of the liberals I talk to free luigi is right up there and anything else they would say. And they, oh yeah, he did the right thing, he, he did. You know this. And it's like man, I, you know, I I don't have a lot of empathy for shitty ceos, but that was just cold blooded murder. I can't support what he did. You know, I'm not going to say, yeah, fuck them because they make more money than me. It's just insane to me that that is where we are at.

Speaker 2 1:26:48

Yeah, and that kind of reminds me of one of my all-time favorite movies, brazil.

Speaker 1 1:26:57

Yes.

Speaker 2 1:26:57

Which demonstrates a society in that phase of deep separation between the haves and the have-nots. But even the haves are not immune from the violence that goes along with a society so deeply divided.

Speaker 1 1:27:15

Yeah, another good reference would be Clockwork Orange.

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Speaker 2 1:27:17

Clockwork Orange is another good one. Yep, I agree. Yeah, there's 12 Monkeys another good one. So speaking of the soap in movies, unfortunately, sure look like a lot more predictive these days than they used to yeah.

Speaker 1 1:27:40

So, speaking of relevant fiction, you've been reading a book I told you to read.

Speaker 2 1:27:46

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been reading and I haven't gotten any further than the last time I talked to you, so I've got like five chapters left in the Screwtape Letters.

Speaker 1 1:27:57

Yeah, would you recommend?

Speaker 2 1:27:58

Yeah, I, I would recommend it. It's a fun book, um, I like, uh, I like that style of dialogue, sort of writing. Um, the audio copy that I had, it was pretty damn good. The the guy reading it was good.

Speaker 2 1:28:15

Um, I think that you know my my one complaint to you initially, when I first started, was that it just felt a little too on the nose and a little preachy. It's kind of like yeah, yeah, we get it. Come on, let's, you know, move along. But I think, um, after just kind of getting into more and more chapters which each chapter is like a letter from an uncle to a nephew that is in the trade, with advice and some corrections that he recommends doing, I think I either got used to it or just didn't notice as much, or whatever. But it's fun. It's definitely, you know, focused on sort of through storytelling, presenting his ideas about what a good Christian is and also shooting down some bad Christian kind of uh, ideals as well, um, but done in a very fun, playful way, which I think it probably gets the message across, but does so without sounding like it's coming from an authoritative source, kind of. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 1:29:34

What do you mean by an authoritative?

Speaker 2 1:29:36

it speaks to a audience more, uh, just more joyously like. You can say the same thing different ways. You can say in a very dry manner, you can say it in the way that mark twain would say it right yeah, you could convey the same message, but the way you do it is going to have a great impact on how it's received.

Speaker 1 1:29:59

Sure.

Speaker 2 1:30:00

So I think this is good.

Speaker 1 1:30:01

I liked it Well. One of my favorite things in the book is you know, and this is a lower demon and you have to remember, in the hierarchy of hell, lower is better.

Speaker 2 1:30:13

Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 1:30:21

It's upside down. This is a lower demon, like lobsters. This is a lower demon who is talking to his nephews, just out of seminary, if you will, for demon kind to try and tempt his first human. And one of the things, uh, you know, wormwood is the nephew and Screwtape is the uncle.

Speaker 1 1:30:36

And so Screwtape is chiding Wormwood and said you let him meet a Christian girl and she's had this influence on him. How dare you, if he must pray, make him pick a corner in his room, make him look at a cross, make him focus on some physical thing versus the prayer? And as a Christian I find that extremely powerful. I put that right up there Like one of my favorite lines in Hamlet is when the king is praying and he says my words fly up, but my thoughts remain below. Words without thoughts never to heaven go and the ideas are the same. When we are distracted, not focused on what truly matters about our religious experience, that's when it becomes meaningless. And that's the entire point there. And there's a lot of things like that in the screw tape letters that make it my, quite frankly, my favorite book of all time which is why I'm reading it, because you said it was your favorite book of all time yes and the uh.

Speaker 1 1:31:45

What is it? Fancies and what good nights. Fancies and good nights came in today so awesome.

Speaker 2 1:31:51

Okay, I'll be starting it sometime this week, so you're gonna start reading that, yeah yeah and it in a. Actually, it'll be interesting to hear what you think, but I think the tone of the book is actually very similar. Yeah, yeah, like it's written in that, that type of style. So we'll see if you agree or not. The, the messaging, may be different, um, like, the demons may be the good guys, but the style that it's written in is similar yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:32:23

And, by the way, I could not find a uh, a um digital copy, so I had to get a physical copy which is okay, which is what I got.

Speaker 2 1:32:37

Obviously I got it a long time ago, but, yeah, yeah, some books. I've had this issue with that, no one bothers.

Speaker 1 1:32:46

Because they weren't popular enough or they've been out of print long enough.

Speaker 2 1:32:50

If we really wanted to, we could probably find it on Google, the scanned book site.

Speaker 1 1:32:54

Archiveorg. I did find it on google. You know the scanned book site, archiveorg. I did find it there.

Speaker 2 1:32:56

That has a, you know crappy scanned copy, so it's totally out of copyright. Yeah yeah, so it should be free 1965 that's one, okay, so that's not when it was first published, though it was in the 50s.

Speaker 1 1:33:11

It was first published okay, well, the copy on archive was 1965 yeah, it must have been a later publication.

Speaker 2 1:33:17

Then yeah, oh, oh, because it was originally published, like a lot of books back then, in magazines, ah, yeah so, and then it was assembled into a book. Yes, yep, yep, um. So that's another thing that you know. They're short stories. It's a collection of short stories basically. So that's another thing that you know. They're short stories. It's a collection of short stories, basically.

Speaker 1 1:33:37

Yeah, so yeah cool. I look forward to reading it. You know we'll see if it's any good, if I can make it through it.

Speaker 2 1:33:50

And I'll finish the screw tape, one here and relating to well, totally unrelated actually, other than the name. I've started taking W wormwood as a supplement.

Speaker 1 1:33:59

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:34:00

That goes more for my show with Darren. You know, Vitamin Talk, Vitamin Talk.

Speaker 1 1:34:07

I mean I know you missed Darren this Friday and y'all didn't get to talk about your aches, pains and old age and infirmities.

Speaker 2 1:34:13

Exactly right. Yeah, I told him quit dying. Every other episode, dude, we're gonna we're gonna end up missing too many episodes you know what you should do to really piss him off.

Speaker 1 1:34:25

What's that? Next time he misses, get with csb oh yeah, I should do that.

Speaker 2 1:34:32

I should tell him hey, I'm gonna have a guest, uh, co-host yeah, and you can even say csb, use an ai voice, whatever. Yeah, just uh, fuck with there um, he would think that was funny, honestly. Okay, uh, because he would be like good luck no, you're a russian scum.

Speaker 1 1:34:53

That is not how this works. This is not what happened exactly.

Speaker 2 1:34:57

That's not what happened. Do you think we're going to get a nasty gram for CSB complaining about some aspect of our show today?

Speaker 1 1:35:03

absolutely yes, your chapter is rough your description was lacking authenticity.

Speaker 2 1:35:12

Why did it take so long to publish?

Speaker 1 1:35:17

the episode was short it was a long week uh you know and you know we, we did lose a donor we.

Speaker 2 1:35:26

Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah, somebody so you know we need more. We need more people stepping up. Look, here's the thing. I am shocked every week when we don't lose a donor.

Speaker 1 1:35:35

I am too, and I didn't say that to bitch at all, but we might have to shut down the podcast because we're losing support and guys, we're barely making it.

Speaker 2 1:35:47

We need the funding.

Speaker 1 1:35:48

We're not making anything. We're still losing money at this point, which is fine. It's fine, it's okay. But what I would say is go out, hit people in the mouth, spread the word about the podcast. You know, if you can throw us some shekels to help us pay the bills, great. If not, spread the word. Be an evangelist for us and hopefully y'all got some good discussion out of today's episode, exactly.

Speaker 2 1:36:15

Exactly. Well, with that, Ben, let's wrap her up. All right, I'm sure there'll be plenty of other things. In fact, I'm sure as soon as we hit stop on the recorder, we'll be looking at news and go oh shit, we should have talked about this Cause it just happened.

Speaker 1 1:36:28

Well, you know, we'll.