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Just Two Good Old Boys
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An explosive revelation rocks the geopolitical landscape as we dive into the mysterious detonation of a vehicle from Putin's presidential motorcade. The timing—just one day after Zelensky's ominous prediction about Putin—feels almost scripted, yet mainstream media remains surprisingly quiet. We explore why both Russia and Ukraine have shown remarkable restraint in not targeting each other's leadership directly despite heated rhetoric and escalating conflict.
The conversation shifts to historical parallels as we examine newly declassified JFK assassination files that continue to validate theories that have circulated for decades. From Lee Harvey Oswald's questionable marksmanship to Jack Ruby's mob connections, the official narrative appears increasingly threadbare. Similarly, we analyze why the Epstein files remain sealed years later—not because of elaborate foreign conspiracies, but because too many powerful people across the political spectrum are implicated.
Technology security takes center stage as we dissect "Signal Gate"—how government communications were compromised through simple default settings that should have been hardened on official devices. This stunning security lapse reveals deeper problems in government operations, further evidenced by the mind-boggling inefficiency of having 12,000 employees tasked with IT provisioning at the IRS alone. Much like the dysfunctional company depicted in "Office Space," our modern bureaucracy seems bloated with redundant positions and waste.
From exploding limousines to government waste, we're connecting dots that mainstream coverage often misses. If you're tired of surface-level analysis and hungry for conversations that dive deeper into what's really happening in our world, this episode delivers insights you won't find elsewhere. Share it with someone who appreciates thoughtful discussion about the forces shaping our future.
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Speaker 2:say that I don't understand why you have to explain how the sausage is made every time there's a slight delay. Well, no one knows this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you know. Csb likes sausage. That's all I know.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, you're clearly doing it for CSB and his bratwurst. Uh yeah. Actually, what is the Polish sausage called? It's not called bratwurst, it's German sausage.
Speaker 1:I think it's just called Polish sausage.
Speaker 2:That's what she said. Anyway, we've got stuff happening all over the place here.
Speaker 1:Oh dude.
Speaker 2:Where do you want to start? Up to you. Okay, I think I know where you're going to start.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:That's a thing. It's not widely reported, incidentally, which I'm kind of surprised by. I figured there would be a lot of reports of that, but no, you have to kind of look mostly outside of us news outlets to find stories about the fact that there was an assassination attempt on putin a day after zelensky said that putin's gonna die soon yeah, in.
Speaker 1:So zelensky did say that, but he said it in the context of putin's age of putin's what age?
Speaker 2:oh, I'm sure that's what he meant. Yeah, yeah, clearly. I think he said that literally every single day he says that maybe it's a little prayer and, um, you know, I'm sure the last thing that zelensky wants is for putin to die of old age well, so I my immediate reaction was okay, I heard zelinski say that.
Speaker 1:And then this car blows up. How effing stupid of zelinski. He's about to get himself assassinated, yeah, but I don't know. I went back and re-listened to that clip of what zelinski actually said and, man you know, it could be him talking out of turn.
Speaker 2:It could be him being a dumbass, you mean kind of like bush was talking out of turn. We said that if they think that pipeline's gonna stay open, they'll see uh, kind of turn like that yeah, yeah total coincidence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I look. I I don't know what caused the car to blow up bad muffler maybe I don't know. But uh, the bottom line is we did have an explosion of one of the cars from the presidential motorcade of putin blow up. Um, they the newspapers are reporting that there were no injuries. That means it was parked, it wasn't like being driven by anybody. But also the video that I've seen of the car post-explosion burning up, I mean it's well beyond totaled. It's like the the front of the car is still there, the little bit of the back is there, but the whole passenger compartment's gone well it, and my understanding is it it was one of several presidential limousines that they have so it's not like this was his only vehicle and yada, yada, it's possible that they got the wrong one.
Speaker 2:You know, there's lots of things here that stand as possible well, remember somebody I'm sure, clearly not ukrainians uh blew up a car that was driven by uh, one of the russian political philosophers is how they describe him. Um god, I'm forgetting his name yeah his daughter died.
Speaker 2:Yeah, his daughter died. Yeah, exactly so they thought it was going to be him. They blew up the car, turned out his daughter was in the car, not him. Uh, dugan, I think, was his last name yeah, it was dugan yeah, um, I don't know a whole lot about him other than what I've heard in you know context of evil russian guy who's putin clearly listens to. Um, he's been accused of being an anti-semitic guy. He's been accused of a lot of things well, he's a nationalist so we can't have that exactly that that's.
Speaker 2:The main thing that I saw about him was that he is very much a pro-russia guy and, uh, I guess that makes him everything else, including nazi, yeah, whereas the ukrainians wearing nazi symbology are clearly freedom fighters yeah, can you hear me? Yeah, yeah okay, we can, we can hear you.
Speaker 1:Fine, sorry, my my mute button wasn't working appropriately oh, what do you need to fart?
Speaker 2:no, uh, but thanks, so you know, we've seen some stuff go back and forth but it has really kind of.
Speaker 1:You know, we've seen some stuff go back and forth, but it has really kind of shocked me, given what Putin has said about Zelensky, that there hasn't just been, we're going to take him out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, there's multiple ways to do that. There's the sort of covert like he mysteriously has a heart condition way to take him out, and then there's just dropping a bomb on the guy.
Speaker 2:I mean the guy is basically in known locations in front of cameras all the time. Yeah, so Russia has done neither, and I think this is actually strategic, or maybe strategically good, because it demonstrates the fact that they're not trying to do all the things the west is accusing them to do, but are doing literally what they said from day one, which is to protect the people that used to be in the ukraine and are now in russia, because it's they had a vote and decided that they'd rather be Russian than Ukrainian, but to protect those people from the attacks that they've been under since 2014, when there was an overthrow of the elected government in Ukraine and the other one was to denazify Ukraine, which effectively means removing a lot of the military units or, as the kids would say these days, unaliving them.
Speaker 1:Well, they've certainly done a pretty decent job at that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now it's cost them a lot of their own lives either. There's plenty of Russian guys that have died over the last three years, over the last three years, but the the not taking out the leader of the other country, um, I think that that that is very much a uh, strategic preservation of him, rather than a technical inability to take him out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but hell not, even, not, even just that, just not bombing kiev.
Speaker 2:You know they, they could totally have just right where there have been, uh, certainly plenty of drone attacks of moscow and and the suburbs around moscow yeah, and well, I mean there's been.
Speaker 1:There have been attacks on kiev too, but not not an all-out assault that Russia is certainly capable of doing, to just you know, carpet bomb the cities. You know, here's the thing Ukraine does not have air superiority, oh, but the ghosts of Ukraine.
Speaker 1:Okay, ukraine does not have air superiority, but the ghost of ukraine okay, um ukraine does not have air superiority, but nor does russia, so you're not going to have bombers. You're not going to have fighters going over and doing it. That's why we see this return to trench warfare. That we've seen is my understanding, but what you could do is russia has all the weapons they would ever need to just stand back and, from their territory, whack them.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And you know the Ukrainians have that capability through US weapons. But the US is so far, and especially with Trump in office not going to let them do that.
Speaker 2:You mean the ones that they haven't sold off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. My point is Russia could do that with very little risk of equal retaliation from, you know, from Kiev.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it would definitely have a negative political impact because all the little NATO countries would be able to point a finger. See, see, this is what we've been telling you guys for three years. This is exactly what they want to do to all of Europe. They want to take over the entirety of Europe and they're going to keep flattening things. Ando has to step up and actually fight russia. Now, okay, us go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's how nato works, right? It's a bunch of little yippy chihuahuas running around and then, uh, when they start getting pushed back or kicked, like ch always need to be, uh, they are pomeranians, or well, hey, now you can offend somebody by using that but uh they're definitely going to be um running back and hiding behind the uh, you know the, the american German Shepherd.
Speaker 2:I guess what's the American dog Pitbull? That's a Spanish dog right.
Speaker 1:Do we?
Speaker 2:have any of our own breeds. I mean the American Stratford Terrier, which is Pitbull Really I thought a Pitbull was British.
Speaker 1:You're thinking of a Bulldog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm thinking of a Bulldog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what does the pit in Pitbull mean? I don't know. I don't either. I don't know why you're asking this question. I don't know. Well, you're more of a dog guy than I am.
Speaker 1:I'm more of a snake guy. We've, you know, we've got a few dog breeds the. American Shepherd is totally different than the German Shepherd Total non sequitur in the middle of all this. The point is Go ahead.
Speaker 2:You just shut down my non sequitur.
Speaker 1:Oh, I thought that was the non sequitur.
Speaker 2:The non sequitur is that there's a YouTuber guy that I watch that also plays video games. That has two of the most beautiful dogs I've ever seen. They are pure white German Shepherds. They're like the absolute perfect Nazi dogs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, actually those German Shepherds are likely to have kidney failure. Why, it's the thing it's like. The American German Shepherds are likely to have hip dysplasia, and so on the. German German Shepherds are the healthiest. But these white German Shepherds or the American German Shepherds, the problem is they're-.
Speaker 2:Who are inbred?
Speaker 1:Yeah, very, very inbred. The. American German Shepherds came from, like six animals in total oh my god, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Well, they're beautiful, they look absolutely gorgeous. They've got beautiful blue eyes. Wow, they've got the perfect white, you know hair and and fluffy white tails and uh, it just you know they. They keep raising their right paw for some reason too all the time, but I think that may be more to do with training than anything else. Yeah, they've been trained to say hello, you know to greet somebody, I guess beautiful dogs funny story.
Speaker 1:Um, when I was a kid, we I had a german shepherd as my dog and his name was duke. I'm surprised it wasn't adolf, okay, no, it was duke, as in john wayne, sure, um, anyway, but he was a german, german shepherd that we had gotten from this lady that uh what bred him for police and everything else and she, she sold him to us pretty cheap.
Speaker 1:Excuse me, because he was kind of the runt of the litter and uh, not alpha enough and uh, well, anyway, long story short, the full-grown dog ended up being 120 pound german shepherd okay, so how bad is it, that's a big german shepherd dude, yeah, yeah, yeah and very smart dog, very good dog yeah and you know, everybody knew duke and liked him and one day, you know, my, my dad would take duke with him to work and stuff, but for whatever reason he had to leave him and he had told one of the neighbors hey, you know, if you need to go use the phone or something, they were building a house. Um, we don't lock the door, just go know. If you need to go use the phone or something, they were building a house, we don't lock the door, just go in. You might have to take the phone outside because the little chihuahua is going to my mom's chihuahua is going to yap at you the whole time and you know, but go ahead and do it.
Speaker 1:My mom and I had left for some reason, anyway no one was there and they went to use the phone and my dad had left duke inside and anyway, they went to open the door and, uh, the funniest part was duke immediately just starts barking and being real aggressive like no, uh, you know, no one had ever seen him do that. And one guy looks at the other and says chihuahua, my ass my dad was trying to set him up a little chihuahua.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like german shepherds. I I think uh of dogs that I was closest to getting german shepherds was definitely uh one of the top contenders for that. I also like Rottweilers a lot. They're very. They're better for warm weather. Because the problem with German Shepherds is like they're just, they're fur is too long, they're meant for cooler temperatures.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like you know, Germany.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like Germany, not like Texas, exactly as much as we may have some texas.
Speaker 1:You know towns and food here um the, the weather is definitely not german here one of the funniest things I saw on the x this last week was you know people, why are americans so obsessed with air conditioning and da-da-da-da-da? And then it put the US versus European cities like in latitudes yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know Texas would be in Africa, uh-huh pretty much. Yeah so you know, there's that.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's the thing. Like the hill country Part of Texas would be in Africa.
Speaker 1:Part of Texas would be in Greece.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the wine region, the hill country, that whole area where there's a ton of wineries there. That is on the parallel to like Syria, mm-hmm, we're basically in the Middle East here in Texas, which is also why I think a lot of Middle Easterners, when they come to Houston, feel very at home. Sure, I guess that and all the deals they have going on. But anyway, yeah, we've definitely wandered off a little bit off that path. But the bottom line is we don't really have much details, but there clearly was some kind of a meddling with one of putin's cars that got it to explode but one question have we seen putin in public since this happened?
Speaker 2:um, that's a good question, because there have been certainly videos of him talking about a variety of topics, but he hasn't mentioned this, so they could all be videos that are older as well yeah, that and that's kind of the question.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, that has been brought up to me by several people.
Speaker 2:The conspiracy theory. Yeah, maybe they did kill him, the. I'll tell you why. I don't think that's the case, because where the car was parked would not be a location that there would be an active presidential limo parked, that there would be an active presidential limo parked, so it was kind of it was kind of like on a back lot. Uh, it was actually on the street just outside of the gate to where the cars are stored, so it was both publicly accessible, which gives, you know, opportunity well, surely it's guarded uh I don't know, man.
Speaker 2:I mean, if it was going to be taken out to go get car washed, he might have been parked there. When the guy walked back to get something else, the driver, um it's. It's hard to say, and now I will say that putin has on occasion driven these things himself. I think there's a video of him driving, um the the korean president around, what's the name I forget. Uh, chow yung fat. No, that's a different guy.
Speaker 2:Uh kim jong un, yeah, driving him around, and they were, you know, talking uh oh, you mean the north korean president.
Speaker 1:Well yeah, which one are you thinking?
Speaker 2:south korean, because I don't consider the north korean president.
Speaker 1:Well yeah, which one? Are you thinking?
Speaker 2:south korean, because I don't consider the north korean guy a president okay, but the north korea dictator just as much korea as south korea, right still a dictator.
Speaker 2:Oh, call him dick of all you want. The point is they were driving around and, um, yeah, I don't know, I it just it. The location was not one where it looked like it was going to be, where an active, you know drive in the presidential limo would have stopped. That's the main reason. I don't think he was actually in it. That I'm not saying that they couldn't hide the fact. If he did get killed, they very likely would. That's like historically, uh, russia, even forgetting the difference between I mean, how long did stalin?
Speaker 1:how long was it before they admitted that stalin was dead?
Speaker 2:exactly, and that's kind of where I'm going. It's like historically, whether it was after the soviet revolution or beforehand, they generally tended to not admit to things that had to do with leaders for a damn long time. So I like I don't know if people are just afraid or if they just want to have longer to figure out a story, cover story for everything. But yeah, odds are when Putin dies, if he ever does, when Putin dies, he will be um, we probably won't actually know about it until weeks afterwards Now, or months.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess we'll wait and find out, but we have a.
Speaker 2:We have AI video right. They can put them doing anything they want without him being alive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I would think we would hear from you know like meditative, yeah, would think we would hear from you know like meditative, yeah, I think we would hear from trump, you know, because I think he's staying in fairly decent oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they play video games together. Yeah, that's true okay, I don't know about that, but okay yeah they, they play uh uh civilization okay, I doubt trump plays video games. Um, so did you watch the?
Speaker 2:uh, the culture war stuff, uh, that uh was this last friday by chance I rarely watch it, so unless you specifically like, sent me something to watch, I probably didn't okay, you, you should watch it.
Speaker 1:It's pretty interesting. Uh, it's really debating you know whether or not uh trump's lawyer should have been prosecuted. Um, you know if the current actions of ignoring the federal judge are correct? And it's two lawyers going at it and it's fairly interesting to hear.
Speaker 2:They had two lawyers on culture wars yes and it's.
Speaker 1:Both of them are retardedly pedantic, but that's to be expected lawyers but uh uh, there were.
Speaker 1:There were good points made on both sides. Yeah, there were. The other thing was have you been watching what has come out on, like mike ben's what he's been saying about the jfk files and the things that have come out? Well, there's a lot of interesting stuff, like one eyewitness in the file saying that she they saw I can't remember the sex of the individual, lee harvey, oswald uh out down at street level right before the shooting happened, so that means he couldn't have been up there. Glenn beck tried to do a recreation of the shot he couldn't do it.
Speaker 1:That sounds hilarious yeah, and there's a lot of stuff coming out that people have found in these 80 000 prizes. I mean everything that I've heard is all been what's been in conspiracy theories for like 40 years yeah, there's a release of a tape of one of the dnc uh the dnc chairman, the texas dnc chairman, talking about uh um who johnson. Yeah, johnson okay and saying you know, johnson should have never assassinated. Oh yeah, yeah, but again like that like I.
Speaker 2:Every time I drive through johnson city I always kind of chuckled to myself, thinking it's like, yeah, this guy got away with murder.
Speaker 1:Well, the joke that Roger Stone made on Glenn Beck's show the other day was, you know, nixon and Johnson both wanted to be president, but Johnson was willing to kill for it. Yeah, and so, anyway, there's a lot of stuff that has come out that is somewhat circumstantial. There's no smoking gun. Yeah, very well, the, the rifle and the ammunition were literally brought back into the country, uh, from greece by the cia. There's a lot of things that line up here.
Speaker 1:There there's a lot of things that line up to the mob being somewhat involved, the cubans being somewhat involved and it really being rogue cia orchestrating it all at the behest of johnson.
Speaker 2:What's the guy that killed? Uh, oswald at all.
Speaker 1:At the behest of johnson. What's the guy that killed?
Speaker 2:uh, oswald um shit, what is his name? You had to ask me that. Well, I can't remember his name.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm asking I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, I mean like well, that that definitely seemed like a more of a mob tie-in than a government tie-in.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know the way he was holding the gun, and it's Jack Ruby, by the way. Jack Ruby, yeah the way he was holding the gun when he shot Oswald is known as a gangster hold, because literally, basically, you've got your index finger on top and you're using your middle finger to fire the gun.
Speaker 2:um, and it's a way of trying to prevent the gun from being taken from you and well, and also, the most important bit wasn't how he shot him, but he was a nightclub owner. Hello, yeah well, and then he died 1960s nightclub owner.
Speaker 1:And then he died in jail. Yeah exactly, Exactly so yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 2:What reason would he have for shooting Oswald?
Speaker 1:Well, he was just so distraught that Oswald had killed the president. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy. So I don't know. I nothing new that I've seen has really come out of there, like or nothing that I've that's come out to me looked like it was um again, no smoking gun.
Speaker 1:But there's lots of little things that lead you to believe hey, we certainly weren't told the truth.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And you know, jack Ruby is also Jewish. So there you go.
Speaker 1:Shocker. You know what's interesting is, one of the declassified bits was a Soviet-era memorandum that was talking about how poor of a shot lee harvey oswald was when he went to the ussr russia yeah like americans are supposed to be good chats in comparison.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, yeah, yeah so it is kind of funny, I think. Um it's. It seems like we're never really going to get the full story for that, because just like we won't get the full story with Epstein either, Well, you heard about the young lady that got hit by a bus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, four days to live.
Speaker 2:Yep, that sounds about right. Anybody else want to step up?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and accuse Prince Andrew of uh-huh. Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is the thing my my theory, my conspiracy theory and all this stuff uh is again looking at, just using occam's razor and all the other razors in the razor family and just to see what. What is the most likely reason why something that clearly was put together and available at this point what four years ago? Uh, why it was never made public and still isn't public?
Speaker 1:and the reason the epstein files yeah, from the epstein files.
Speaker 2:well duh, well duh is exactly right. But my point is that I think that the answer what? Because you keep hearing these suits? Oh, it's all israeli. It's, it's because of israel, because let's blame israel for everything. Clearly he was an israeli spy and that's why it's not public. No, no, no, that would have been public. There are plenty of stories about Israeli spies out there. No, I think that the most likely scenario is because the vast majority of the people involved are still living and still powerful.
Speaker 2:So it's not just people like the Clintons. We love to make fun of the Clintons and their whole Clinton kill list, which, you know, it's kind of black humor, but, but it's hard not to see that as being a real thing. But beyond the Clinton, there's just a lot of people who are not in politics, not in the In the making their faces public game, but who are nonetheless extremely rich and extremely perverted, and those people have a combined enormous amount of money and power to push others into making sure that this thing doesn't see the light of day. They don't need to kill everybody. They just need to kill a few folks here and there to make everybody else take a step backwards and say let sleeping dogs lie.
Speaker 2:We really, you know the guy's dead, the place is shut down. No one's going to be saved as a result of that information coming forward. Let's just shut this thing down and leave it alone. And if, if it was just purely a couple of people, a handful of people, five to ten people, I think we would have known the data even during um biden's presidency well, I I think there's clearly some names on the list that have enough protection to stop it now.
Speaker 1:What I would say, though, is they could certainly easily give us some low-level people and, you know, like bill gates or someone like that and he's not that low level he's. No one likes bill gates, right?
Speaker 2:no one likes Bill Gates right, no one likes Bill Gates. Bill Gates is nonetheless a multi-billionaire.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah. But my point is, if they were to give us someone like that and a few low-level people and whitewash the rest?
Speaker 2:no one would ever know. But they can't because they know that if Bill Gates became the token that they would give up the sacrificial goat, he would talk.
Speaker 1:Well, why do you think he would live?
Speaker 2:Well, because he's got money. That's why it always comes down to money, dude. His money doesn't buy you 100% guarantee of anything, but he gets you a hell of a lot more than not having money gets you. Sure, the worst thing to be is a serf.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so uh, bill Gates may be disliked universally, and I don't think it's universal either. There are plenty of people that have been making money off of him for a long time that I'm sure like him uh, or at least like the money they're getting from him, and they don't want him to go away, and so I think there could be much lower profile people than him. The problem is, I suspect, that either the people that have directly gone to Epstein's Island and or the people that work for or somehow are greatly pressured by the people that went to Epstein's Island is probably a large majority of Congress today.
Speaker 2:I would not at all be surprised I would not be surprised If well over 50% of the senators out there have been diddling somebody, male or female, and have connections to Epstein. Now, it could even be that they didn't go to the island, but they've gone to parties, they've gone to other events. They one way or another know that if this thing starts to unravel, then more people give up. You remember the prisoner's dilemma. Right, go ahead. So it's a philosophical exercise. Right, so it's it's game theory.
Speaker 2:The prisoner's dilemma is you've got two people that were caught doing something illegal. They're separated, they're in in jail, yeah, and each one is asked the same question. They say look, if you talk, then we're going to make your punishment be absolutely minimal and the other person's punishment a lot stronger. If you don't talk and the other guy talks so you better talk now, because I'm going to go talk to him right after this then you're going to be the one whose punishment is going to be extremely bad for you, and the other guy will give a slap on the wrist too. So we encourage you to talk, and both of these prisoners are told the same thing. So the prisoner's dilemma is used as an exercise in game theory, at the beginning of game theory, really to kind of explain what are the different options, what are the different odds of, uh, different scenarios, and which is considered to be the best winning condition or the the I mean, it's not even winning, but which is the best condition, which is the worst case scenario here?
Speaker 2:and of course is both of the guys snitch on the other, then they both effectively have uh, given up the entire story, and so they're both going to end up having very harsh sentences. If one of the guys snitches, the other one doesn't, then the guy that snitched has effectively transferred some of that guilt onto the other guy who kept his mouth shut, and he's going to get off with a lighter punishment, but still some punishment. If neither one of them talks, it's going to be much more difficult for the state to prove its case, and they'll both be. They'll both get punished, but probably not as much as certainly one of them would be if one of them talks, and they'll be punished a lot less than if both of them talk. So what is the? The best approach to the prisoner's dilemma is if the other?
Speaker 1:person's a female squeal immediately no, it's.
Speaker 2:It's to ensure that if you're ever caught, the other person is dead yes, that that is so helpful it is. It means that when you're going to go somewhere where there's that possibility, you need to make sure that you hire a nightclub owner to take care of the other guy.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, see how you brought that right back to ken yeah, yeah, okay so that that's my point is that I think if there's a substantial amount of people in Congress, and certainly Senate, more than the House, because they turn over a lot slower in the Senate. You think Turtlehead didn't have something to do with this? Of course he did.
Speaker 1:I think it's fairly likely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of diddlers in congressman and they know that if one of them talks then it's just. It'll be like a cat playing with a ball of yarn. It's just going to start unrolling and unrolling, and unrolling. So they have to make sure that everyone knows that if anyone even looks like they're going to talk, they're going to have a car accident or a heart attack.
Speaker 1:Well, I still have some faith that we're going to hear something of the files released, Like I think that some of the Epstein files will be released.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the ones that have absolutely nothing consequential whatsoever in them, those could very well be released.
Speaker 1:Eh possible.
Speaker 2:It would be very disappointing for people that are awaiting some kind of a big revelation happening. The revelation is the fact that it's been now what four years and these files have not been released. That's the revelation is that how many people are involved in the cover-up? Over half of all the people in government, basically, are involved. Okay, so make with that what you will. Every country has a government that deserves.
Speaker 1:Did you notice that Trump's lost quite a bit of weight? He?
Speaker 2:looks a little skinnier, I will agree. I think he needs to cut down on the uh signing of the executive orders.
Speaker 1:He has taken too many calories, man I don't know man I I think it's maha. I think he's actually starting to eat healthy for once in his life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if that. I can totally see that for a guy at his age not getting that donut in the morning, I don't know if that's really healthy. Okay, I mean, as long as he's doing methylene blue, I guess that's all right, but uh, I just hate to see an old guy just like stop enjoying life mine has not come in yet, by the way oh yeah, that's right, you ordered some. I don't know if you mentioned that last episode or not no, because I hadn't ordered it last episode.
Speaker 2:That's probably why, well you know, you should get the alex jones kind well, luckily, that's what I did yeah, um, we'll find out. Once it comes in we'll have you read off the bottle and everything and see how it compares to the stuff I've got yeah my guess it's. It's not. It's going to be worse, it's going to be worse.
Speaker 1:It's going to be worse why?
Speaker 2:I just have that. It's mostly the price I mean, like they shouldn't be selling it that cheap well, it's an introductory thing for one allegedly yeah, we'll see you know how this goes first there's an introductory sale, then there's a going out of business sale.
Speaker 1:Everything's always on sale right, but so methylene blue has been around for a hundred and some odd years it has nothing. Um, it has, you know, no patents, no, nothing. It's not particularly complex molecule to produce, so why should the price be high?
Speaker 2:well, because, uh, market competition tends to dictate price more than anything else.
Speaker 1:Okay, so if alex jones can come out and do this, which he has done with other supplements in the past.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, man, we'll see, we'll see. I'm curious to see what it actually says on the package for quantities of the active ingredients.
Speaker 1:Well, the package is on. You can look at that right now on the website. Oh really.
Speaker 2:What does it say?
Speaker 1:It's got the label on there you're, you're.
Speaker 2:Well, let's let me go to a doc. What is it?
Speaker 1:dr alex jones no, uh, it's the alex jones store alex jones md the real alex jones storecom. The real alex j. Methylene blue fresh mint flavor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, mint flavor. I see VIP club.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you click on the pictures, you can.
Speaker 2:New arrivals.
Speaker 1:Methylene blue. Zoom in and enhance.
Speaker 2:Zoom in and enhance. There you go. I'm looking at it. I don't. It keeps popping up ads for me to save money. God damn it. Uh, this is a very small picture. Let me open the image new window and see if I can see a bigger version of this. Um, all vegan. All vegan UPS grade Take 20 drops. Okay, so 20 drops is 10 milligrams of methylene blue, uh-huh, so one pill that I take is 50. Okay, so you would need to do 100 drops of Alex Jones stuff.
Speaker 1:Well maybe you're taking too much.
Speaker 2:No, I'm definitely not taking it. I'm taking just the right amount. Any less than this and I don't think you're going to see much benefit.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll see. I'll take it as directed and if I need to bump it up, I can.
Speaker 2:I would say, just say, of that bottle, just drink a quarter bottle a day, you'll be okay. Not medical advice, mind you. No advice on how to kill yourself. No, I've checked. There's 50 milliliters in the bottle, 10 milliliters per day. You're good to go. Oh God, Anyway, that's literally the same damn thing.
Speaker 1:I'm going to try it. We'll see, mm-hmm. If it doesn't do anything, then I'll go from there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. All kidding aside, though it is good stuff, it has been around. I reminded ben that he's actually used it in the past. We both have in aquariums because we both used to have aquariums, and methylene blue is something that you treat fish uh, bacterial infections with. Like ick, you treat it with methylene blue.
Speaker 1:So this is something that, like, I've purchased many, many years ago well it just comes in a different and more expensive packaging these days yeah, and it's one of those things you know what's valid for human consumption versus not, and it's generally the same thing.
Speaker 2:Okay, you go do that horse dewormer oh yeah, you just keep calling me as a horse pillow eater uh, but anyway it's interesting.
Speaker 1:Um, there are some in. There's a lot of counter information on methylene blue right now online like, if you google, should I take methylene blue?
Speaker 2:oh no, no, don't do that.
Speaker 1:You should get vaccines instead, exactly yeah, so you know there's, you know there's, there's counter indications and everything else. But that's like with everything you know if you, if you google um vitamin c daily or something like that, it's it's you're gonna get several things there as well.
Speaker 2:Same with vitamin d yeah, and you know, I've always been told that there's no such thing as too much vitamin c, because you'll just piss it out if you well, and it'll come out the other end too, will it?
Speaker 1:oh my god, if you take it?
Speaker 2:will it cause an issue there with your shit?
Speaker 1:it will create bowel movements.
Speaker 2:Really, I don't think I've ever taken that much.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, when I get sick I take 2,000 plus milligrams of vitamin C a day, and you will go, just for sure.
Speaker 2:It's like magnesium, you know, yeah, well, the magnesium. I know what that does, but I have not heard of the vitamin c having adverse reactions or adverse effects like that. So, um, yeah, I mean all things in moderation right, that's always the good advice yeah, and obviously if you're having side effects, stop yeah yeah yeah, which is you know I've talked about like using too much um erythritol and erythritol. Well uh, it's a fake sugar.
Speaker 2:Um, that tastes just like sugar okay it's actually I I believe it's a sugar alcohol okay, why would you use that? Well, you use it instead of real sugar, so you don't get the calories from sugar. I mean, it's a natural sweetener, basically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but why not use something like stevia?
Speaker 2:Stevia doesn't taste as good. Stevia has flavor. It doesn't taste like real sugar. Erythritol tastes a lot more like real sugar. But either way, the funny thing about erythritol is that, like back in the thirties, forties, fifties, we used to use it as um, uh, yeah, basically uh.
Speaker 2:It was used by exterminators to treat areas as a fairly safe um agent, because what happens is like ants and other bugs will eat it because it tastes like sugar, but it contains no calories and they will literally be.
Speaker 2:You know they. They will die as a lack of energy from eating it before they realize which which they probably never realized, frankly, their brains aren't exactly big that it doesn't actually provide energy, so it starves them to death while they're eating it. And if your dog happens to lick it up, it's not going to poison your dog, which is why I say it was used as a fairly safe pesticide back in the old days. Well, what we realized is that we can actually sell it for a lot more money to people, much like fluoride, and so we we took that and we created this much more expensive fake sugar product out of it, and when I say fake sugar, I'm referring to it not being sucrose or fructose or any of the naturally occurring sugars. But it's not fake in the sense that like it's made of the kind of exotic materials that like, um, uh, what's the, what's the yellow packets, what that stuff is made from?
Speaker 1:uh, like, uh, equal, like, equal is made from, like formaldehyde and stuff that's crazy oh equal, and a lot of the fake sugars are just at like aspartame dude is so terrible for you yeah yeah it's well, aside from just being terrible, it's it's causing migraines and everything else yeah and and it.
Speaker 2:It's made from ingredients that seem like holy shit. I can't believe this is stuff that we're allowed to eat, uh, whereas erythritol is literally just an alcohol of sugar that happens to be sweet. So anyway, we're talking about that. How do we get on the topic of fake sugars? What were we talking to you about before that?
Speaker 2:Oh the different drugs and, yeah, the health thing Right, right, right. So I think there are a lot of substances out there that you can take, a lot of, erythritol being one of that definitely causes gastric discomfort. It'll clear you out in a hurry. And I know this personally because I made sugar-free ice cream one time and I kept adding more by taste, because I wanted it to be nice and sweet likefree ice cream one time and I kept adding more, you know, by taste because I want to be nice and sweet like real ice cream and I put in about a half a packet, so probably like six cups of the erythritol in there and uh, like six cups of erythritol to probably like four cups of cream.
Speaker 2:And, holy shit, man, that you. It just ran right through you like in 10 minutes, like that ice cream came in one end and went up the other very, very fast. It tastes good, do it? I can't say anything about the flavor. Flavor was very good. It just has a negative effect on your, your bowels, that's all. Yeah, well, you better be close to a bad instead of uh, this weekend bowel movements oh yeah, that's the other show I do what happened, unrelenting, relented.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? There was no show this friday? Yeah, there was. Uh, then something's wrong with your uh rss feed. It could be we did a show because and no agenda had the same issue on uh thursday's show where the rss feed was not showing up in fountain, or um, uh, what's the other app I downloaded to check it? Uh, pod, uh podcast addict and. I actually had to listen to Thursday's no Agenda on the web, and then it apparently got fixed as of today there's no episode.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a special channel. I hear in Signal that somebody could use to notify of such things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I just looked and then I'm talking to you right now.
Speaker 2:so there you go Do you expect me to remember these things.
Speaker 1:It's your show with Darren, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you expect me to know what show I'm doing with Darren?
Speaker 1:Okay, so you expect me to do your job for you?
Speaker 2:Yes, got it, absolutely so that show was called, what it was called Unrelenting Right, and that, yeah, march 28th, episode 149. Apnea Ablation is the name of the episode. That's where. I explain to Darren what ablation is and why he should have no business doing it. Not medical advice, mind you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ablation is not a fun topic. No. Yeah, so the last one that's showing up and I just refreshed the feed is episode 148.
Speaker 2:It literally says this is not medical advice. On the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 148 Snow Fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're like a show behind. You should probably get that fixed. Yeah, or someone should fix your rss feed. Oh, guess what that would be? It just showed up. Oh, look at that, look at that.
Speaker 3:It's all working now huh uh-huh, so something weird was going on with the rss feeds over the weekend um but no so they wanted they will I.
Speaker 1:I, when I was a kid, I had some issues and they wanted to do an ablation on me.
Speaker 2:You still have some issues it's not that game, hey we're not talking mental illness here okay okay, that that is.
Speaker 1:That is not the scope of this conversation. But no, they wanted to do an oblation on my heart. Thankfully, your mom didn't do it. Well, no, I didn't do it. I was old enough to make the decision myself. No, but I was old enough and smart enough to go yeah, no, not gonna fucking do it, but your mom made the right decision. They weren't going to do it against my will.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, that's not how it works these days with kids, uh-huh, no, timmy's really trans. We gotta cut it off now, exactly look, who knows better than the parents whether their kid is trans or not? Clearly the parents say the kid's trans, you do the surgery, they'll figure it out eventually yeah, uh-huh that's how that works.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, I can see we're in a world that would do that, but no um it. The ablation is a very scary process, and especially when you're in your teens and young and you know, thinking uh yeah, no thanks, I don't want to kill off part of my heart. I might need that later.
Speaker 1:You think yeah, and and you know, to be honest, I I ended up growing out of the issues I had and, uh, so I had just let people know I had a condition called uh, well, I still do. But wpw, wolf parkinson white and it's essentially an extra pathway in the heart.
Speaker 1:So instead of having one nerve going from one side of the heart to the other, so that you know ventricle one beats and then ventricle two beats, in sequence uh, I've got two and randomly the nerve impulse will go down both at the same time I mean try methylene blue, because I hear it's good for that so what? What ends up happening is the the signal gets there to beat, and then, a split second later, the signal gets there to beat, and then, a split second later, the signal gets there to beat again.
Speaker 1:So you end up with what's called a premature heartbeat, and your heart tries to correct for this by beating faster and faster and faster. Well, my heart rate had been recorded at over 220 beats per minute. At what age?
Speaker 2:15. Yeah, it's low on the high side. I mean it's not unusual, but it's low on the high side, it's very on the high side.
Speaker 1:I mean it's not unusual, but it's low on the high side. It's very on the high side and what would happen was my heart would be beating so fast, like that's the recorded amount we have no idea during an attack right, actually got up to and my heart would be beating so fast that it really wouldn't be moving any blood and so my blood pressure would bottom out and I would drop out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's not a good thing, not a fun experience.
Speaker 2:Not a good thing to have happen at all. You know, if you were more creative, you'd have come up with something like well, you know, actually, much like Doctor who, I have two hearts here, so you're clearly mistaken about my condition. Yeah, well, didn't occur to you. I guess I wish mistaken about my condition.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, didn't occur to you, I guess I wish.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. And incidentally, Time Lords are not the only species with more than one heart. There are plenty in science fiction.
Speaker 1:Well, there's Doesn't an octopus have more than one? I know they've got yeah, I know they've got nine brains but don't they have multiple hearts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they do. I think you're right. I don't remember how many, though, but I think you are correct. But I mean, like in science fiction as in humanoids having more than one heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they have two hearts.
Speaker 2:How many hearts do the dudes from Babylon 5 have?
Speaker 1:Which one?
Speaker 2:Any of them. There's some of them too. I remember right. Yeah the Centauri have two hearts. Yeah, that's what I meant the Centauri and they have extra little things that are used as their sex organs.
Speaker 1:They're like tentacles, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, if you want to just call, which, by the way, is straight the fuck out of hentai right, oh, totally totally, yeah, yeah, but they also have like hot chicks that are bald as well right like the bald look has never been a thing for me, but at the same time you saw that episode.
Speaker 1:You're like holy shit that actually works I did see that episode as a kid, so exactly exactly now.
Speaker 2:You've wanted a bald woman ever since and, to be fair, she's not totally bald. She has that, uh, ponytail, ponytail coming down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you know, yeah well, bald or not, you, you and I, both, would be, you know, all over the place. Moving on Tesla attacks and did you see what happened today in? New.
Speaker 2:Mexico no.
Speaker 1:What happened there? So the GOP headquarters in some New Mexico town got burned down.
Speaker 2:Holy cow.
Speaker 1:Wow. Like arson arson wait, that's not tesla related though well, it's general, the entire thing is general general.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know felony vandalism against a bunch of different people. So, and then ashley sinclair coming out and selling her tesla and decrying elon saying he's cut her child support and this, that and the other, and yeah, like, yeah it's, it's kind of crazy. So, rudyard, from what if alt hiss definitely didn't get his bet done? You know here shortly, because he said a thousand000 deaths by April. Yeah, that's not happening, we're not there. But what I will say is, if stuff keeps escalating the way it is and we give him till the end of April, he might.
Speaker 1:He very well might yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously I don't really want him to win his bet, even if he's right about what's happening, but I would like to see more actual enforcement. In fact, I sent you a link on X and I said I think it was of a bunch of people laying down in front of a Tesla dealership blocking it, and I think the question I posed was was this a protest or was this simply a public outing of a terrorist organization, which I'm inclined to call it? This letter, not the first, because all these people well, I don't know if all of them are paid, some of them are absolutely paid, but all of them are holding professionally made signs, which makes them unpaid, volunteer terrorists.
Speaker 1:Well, there was a lot of. There were a lot of the protesters for this day of protest against Elon Musk that suddenly, at noon, just left, you know, and there is. I forget which organization is backing some of these protests, I forget which organization is backing some of these protests, but they literally have.
Speaker 1:Hey, you can get reimbursed up to X amount for going and doing this and you know they have a, they have some rules around what it needs, you know how long you have to be there, what you do and so on. And it certainly is a way of paying protesters in a uh, somewhat you know, nefarious way where you can claim oh no, we're not paying protesters, we're just reimbursing them for what they're doing.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, uh-huh, exactly. And the other comment that I posted about these people is if you look at the majority of them, they clearly are just post college age college. If you look at the majority of them, they clearly are just post-college age, college age or college professor age. As I said, you know, I would bet today that many of these people maybe not all, but many of these people previous to going to college, seeing them future selves on TV, would have laughed at these people. I think college breaks people these days. It removes logic, it removes a sense of nationalism, it removes a lot of the ability to process data rationally and it replaces it with an indoctrination based on socialist ideologies where the main function of the proletariat that they would consider themselves to be is to simply follow orders and repeat anything that is told to them and not question anything. That's my assertion.
Speaker 1:Well, I think you definitely have the Fabian-type socialists that have taken over the colleges I? I. To think that the, the ussr collapsed and we won the cold war is somewhat disingenuous to me, because if you look at the movement of europe more to socialism, if you look at the us's moves toward socialism and everything else, I? I how can you argue that we're not still fighting the same enemy?
Speaker 2:it's just now from within right and that's a very good point. A subtle point that a lot of people miss, because for an awful lot of people, especially from a generation older than you and mostly older than me as well, but certainly plenty of my age they equate Russia with USSR and they completely think that who they were fighting was a country.
Speaker 1:It's not. It's an ideology. It's the problem.
Speaker 2:It's always been an ideology that they've, that america has been fighting with, an ideology that was the ruling ideology in the ussr. But it wasn't the geographic location of the people that was the problem of the Russian people or the any other of the groups of Soviets back then. It was the fact that this ideology was the dominant and government ideology of that country at the time. And it still is in China, it still is in North Korea, still is in a number of places. But just because a country stops being communist doesn't mean that you've now killed communism. Just because it's moved on from one region or one country doesn't mean it's gone. It's likely moved somewhere else and has taken root and is now subverting a different group of people geographically into that same sort of ideology. And I think this is what's been happening in the United States to a large extent, to Canada in an even bigger extent.
Speaker 2:Dude, I remember when I was a kid watching Canadian television shows. It was basically like they were all outdoorsy shows and they had, you know, farmers and ranchers and fishermen and doing all kinds of stuff that was interesting for a kid to watch, but it portrayed a country where everybody walked around with a gun. It portrayed a country where everybody walked around with a gun. You know everybody was self. What's the word like self-sufficient?
Speaker 1:That is not Canada today at all. No, Well, Canada's gone off the deep end dude, Especially with the appointment of this new prime minister, temporary prime minister, minister, who's probably going to call snap elections, but real quick. One of the things I I would say is we have to recognize, especially here in the us uh, mccarthy, joseph mccarthy was right, was not wrong exactly there was a bunch of stuff, yeah he died, and the select Committee on Un-American Activities sure got a bad rap.
Speaker 1:but at the same, say what you will about him being a transvestite. I did not know that.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah yeah. But that aside, there was nothing wrong with.
Speaker 1:Like what kind of transvestite Like you? Like to wear women's underwear? Like Lee Harvey Oswald? Like women's underwear? No, J Edgar Hoover.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. That same kind of transvestite, exactly, exactly, like they didn't think they were women, they just enjoyed women's clothing and I wish there would be more of that, which I just do not understand, yeah, and we don't have to understand Like nothing about women's clothing looks particularly comfortable or, you know, practical to me and everything else.
Speaker 1:You know, the other day we went to leave to go check the mailbox. I had the kids here and I got asked well, do you have the keys? And I'm like, yeah, they're in my pocket. Well, I don't know where, you'm like yeah, they're in my pocket.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't know where you keep them they're in my pocket every day.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't keep my keys in my pockets. I don't know it's like, okay, anyway, sorry, like no, my ec pockets are, I think, necessary.
Speaker 2:Part of the reason there's so many alleged transsexuals now is because they've sort of killed off this group that used to exist called transvestites, and they've just basically told people that do like to wear women's clothing, men that like to wear women's clothing. They've told them oh no, no, no, you're not a transvestite, you actually want to be a woman yeah, you're just wear women's clothes.
Speaker 1:Well, the same thing with tomboys.
Speaker 2:Tomboys don't exist anymore nope, they don't, and that's really sad because they were fun. They were fun to, you know, as something a little different from all your other guys, because they were still girls even though they they knew how to light a.
Speaker 1:It was a buddy you could kiss. There you go.
Speaker 2:Now, that makes you a little gay, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:Not a why.
Speaker 2:You know you're kissing your best friend, you're hanging out with them, you're going out shooting guns and then kissing. It just kind of feels like it's a little gay.
Speaker 1:No, if the chromosomal difference exists, then it's fine you ever watch black adder?
Speaker 2:no, okay, that was a great show. You may not understand, it's british humor, but black adder, uh, was a show that that was. I think they had four seasons, maybe five, but each season was set in a different time period and one of the seasons I want to say was during the Elizabethan era. The main character played by Rowan Atkinson was starting to get emotions for his boy servant and start thinking that you know, geez, he's attracted to this this cabin boy or whatever.
Speaker 2:And then the boy servant makes the revelation that he's actually a girl pretending to be a boy, and now he's all confused because in to in one sense that kind of makes this less you know of a problem yes, right. On the other hand, he's not as attracted to her well that that's a whole different issue there, buddy but he's no, he likes women.
Speaker 2:He just, for whatever reason, seems to be there. So it was a funny thing. I mean, you know who drone atkinson is, even if you don't know. Black at it, right? Uh, no, I don't think. No, jesus. Okay, we've got some new tv shows we need to start adding to the list of shows that ben's gonna watch.
Speaker 2:I will happily re-watch all of them here. Here's the people that were in it. Okay, and god, you had better recognize some of these names. So obviously ronan atkinson was a big one that you haven't heard of. Um, uh, house md yeah, the actor yeah, he was in it. Okay, uh, the um, the big, tall british gay dude who, uh, who, god, what's his name? Uh, laura, uh, yeah, no, no, he had a little show with laurie hugh. Laurie had a show with uh, why don't?
Speaker 1:you just all right. The name of the show is black adder black adder.
Speaker 2:You don't black areas right a snake. Yes, correct.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the snake. Yes, thank you, gene I. I I have seen, uh, you know, a crocodile hunter episode or two okay all right, good, good. Oh, crikey, poor guy like I can't think of a worse way to go than getting hit in the heart with a stingray.
Speaker 2:I can think of plenty.
Speaker 1:Stephen Fry is the other guy I was gonna mention yeah, so my dad's gotten hit by a stingray before and I've seen the pain that he's gone through and he still says it's the worst pain he's ever had. So I don't know, but he survived, though this guy died instantly.
Speaker 2:Just imagine if he would have gotten hit by stingray and nuts. No well, he got hit in the thumb you'd want to be dead at that point?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, black at our tv series 1982, 1983, uh, 83, 89. Yeah, uh, it's got mr bean in it yeah, that's mr bean.
Speaker 2:Is ron atkinson?
Speaker 1:okay, I don't know, I've always known him as mr bean why would I want to watch this show?
Speaker 2:oh, it's hilarious. It is some of the funniest humor ever on tv. He is uh, in fact, right now. He's actually done some great speeches about the uh the stupidity of the world culture and where do you follow monty? Python so monty python is interesting because monty python has some funny humor in it, but it also has a lot of buffoonery and, as you all know, I'm not a large fan of buffoonery. I like humor that is yes.
Speaker 1:I know it strikes too close to home for you not in the least it's.
Speaker 2:It strikes very far away, which is why I don't really find it all that entertaining, which seems to be mostly the kind of stuff you send me to watch videos not that funny. I like things that are. I like traditional british comedy, which is to say sort of understated stiff upper lip, very, um, uh, you know it's. It's more sarcasm and, uh, a cold delivery than it is in your face slapstick which is more of the American style.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, for the record, I like Monty Python. Okay, it makes sense. It's more buffoonery. The life of Brian. The transgender quotes from the life of Brian are so applicable to today and hilarious. It's not even funny, for sure, for brian are so applicable to today and hilarious. It's not even funny, for sure you know, monty python, the holy grail, you know all, all of those things. We are the knights of me, like I grew up on that stuff, it's funny, exactly.
Speaker 2:No, it is funny, it's well written.
Speaker 1:I definitely have a slapstick sense of humor. Yeah, you know that more than nothing wrong with that I mean it's.
Speaker 2:I don't think of you any less, not much less for that it's uh gee definitely noticeable. Yeah, so I think you would enjoy black adder, and each season, as I said, takes place in a different period um, so the first one is in the Richard the Force time. The next one is Elizabeth, the First. Okay.
Speaker 2:The next one is it's King George the Third's era, and the last one was set during the Great War, which would be World War I, and it's they never got to a World War II episode, huh, no, no, it got canceled before them. Uh, but it. It's the same character. What's? The same actors, obviously, but also the same. Basically the same personas, the same personality types, the same types of characters. Right, that each rinse and repeat throughout history yeah then the archetype, very funny.
Speaker 2:The archetype precisely, precisely, uh, and the archetype Precisely, precisely, and there is there's definitely some buffoonery in there. I'm not going to say there isn't any. There's also very stereotypical BBC sets, which is to say, hire a guy, give him 50 bucks and tell him to make a set. You know very basic, but I enjoyed the shows a lot. I love that sense of humor and I wouldn't mind re-watching them. So if we want to add that to the list, I'll definitely be up for that.
Speaker 1:It'll give me a chance to resubscribe to the BritBox TV channel. Yeah, I'm not going to subscribe to BritBox.
Speaker 2:You should, you should.
Speaker 1:Well, you heard the tip of the day on Thursday's show, right? No, what's tip of the day? Watch it's. Oh God, what is it?
Speaker 2:TV dot something. Tv dot something. I don't get anything there.
Speaker 1:No, it's God, it's a piracy site that JCD found that basically lets you watch anything from anywhere.
Speaker 2:That's not a tip, that's like a felony.
Speaker 1:Well, he ran it as a tip, so good luck to him. Jcd yeah. I'm sure your other co-host knows exactly what it was.
Speaker 2:Oh, I guarantee you, he does.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he's probably one of the ones who told JCD about it.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I know Darren piracy what?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he knows all about all those sites.
Speaker 1:Like I still have like an IP torrents account and stuff like that, but I don't ever use it. Yeah, like there's just no point yeah, like there's just no point.
Speaker 2:I was on a private torrent server for a long, long time that we, we kind of made it private back.
Speaker 2:Uh, when pirate bay first started yeah, and ip torrents is that same way you it requires an invitation to get in exactly exactly because we saw, and it's reputation based, so if you invite someone and they screw up a lot. It hurts you. Totally Same kind of idea and I was on there for a long time. The quality was way better than anything you could get elsewhere. Like people, if you uploaded crap, you're going to get in trouble.
Speaker 1:Or crap quality, or didn't seed, yeah.
Speaker 2:Or didn't write a description accurately enough, yeah, so all that stuff was uh an issue but hey, that porn actress doesn't have big tits, she's only got medium tits.
Speaker 1:What are you?
Speaker 2:thinking take that shit down. But it got to a point where most of the uh copier protection stuff was no longer popular for programs and I had more money in my pocket to actually buy more stuff and it just. And then then it all kind of added up to the point where it's kind of like, dude, I never log in, I never get anything, I don't need to get anything off torrents anymore, um, and if I do, I'll, I'll write a nice, nice email or a signal message to my other co-host and say, hey, any chance you can snag one of these for me yeah, you go commit the crime, so I don't have to exactly now, technically we would both be liable for the crime being committed, but at least I would have to do less work for it well, I mean I've got stuff set up to doubt.
Speaker 1:You know, I've got torrent servers and everything that I can throw something on there and download something very easily. But it's just good, then I'll use you next time, but it's just not something I'm going to do yeah um anymore because, for instance, like community, I could have, uh, you know, torrented community or I could have. There are lots of things, but I just haven't bought it. No, I haven't. But I haven't watched TV in a couple of weeks, dude.
Speaker 2:I believe it. You've got a lot of shit going on. I haven't watched TV in at least a week.
Speaker 1:So I've got to tell you I'm going to be getting even busier. We just won that Guam project.
Speaker 2:I was talking about oh, even busier, we just won that guam project.
Speaker 1:I was telling oh, nice good, so yeah you know it's we, we are it's. It's a good, good thing to have. But we are winning a ton of work right now and awesome we're bringing in other portions of the business so for instance, there's a us electric company that my firm has been after for years and never gotten anywhere with, because one of our competitors has been their main epc and, uh well, because of my reputation and some of my colleagues reputations, we were able to walk in and get a cybersecurity contract with them.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:And go ahead and do an MSA with them. That allows for everybody else, which everyone's looking at us going. How did you do this? We can't ever get in there. We can't do this. Well, you know, we're going to bring you along sometimes too. It's okay, Exactly, and so that's just opening the floodgates to well, hey, I want you in this account. I want you in this account.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Needless to say, I am busy.
Speaker 2:We'll keep finding time to do this show, though.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this isn't going away. It's just like my TV time is non-existent. I still want to read I still want to do other things and, like tonight, I was working on some proposals. You're still doing Spanish. Yeah, 299 nights. Wow. In a row. Yeah, so tonight will be 300.
Speaker 2:What's ketchup in Spanish?
Speaker 1:I never had to say ketchup in Spanish. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay, maybe we'll ask again in 600 more sounds good.
Speaker 1:Yes, when I get to the condiments phase when you, when you finally arrive at condiments salsa de tomate.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that'd probably be close enough all I know is when I ordered take on leche in costa rica and the waiter looked at me a little funny and then he brought me out a cup of warm milk and a tea bag okay, yeah, that's when I knew that there are, that there's some finesse involved.
Speaker 1:Well, and it also depends on the dialect right and the different slangs. Oh sure, Because charqueta in Spain means something very different than Latin America.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm Now one thing I will ask you have you ever had leche de tigre, leche de tigre, lice de tigre? No, I have not have you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you're making a ceviche and the juice from the ceviche is called a lice de tigre, milk of the tiger, and it's supposed to be a hangover cure and everything else.
Speaker 2:But it's this really spicy, just funky juice, right um yeah, that's interesting, but if you like ceviches it was invented in san antonio. Texas ceviche no leche de tigre. Okay, well, it's the juice off of the phrase was coined in san antonio. I'm just looking into history okay, maybe yeah wouldn't surprise.
Speaker 1:Do you like flan? No, I cannot stand flan I like fun.
Speaker 2:It's, oh it's, it's to me one of the better mexican desserts well, mexicans don't know how to make desserts. You know, didn't they Tres?
Speaker 1:Leches cake okay. But beyond that, you know, I don't know man.
Speaker 2:Not a big fan.
Speaker 1:Like a churro and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Churro's not very good. It's just fried flour with sugar. But I do like the.
Speaker 1:Whatchamacallit Flan with sugar, but I do like the the, which would call it one.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't like soft puddings like that.
Speaker 1:Well, it should have a hard, hard top on it right, but it's still just yeah, yeah, not my thing. But, I don't like a lot of sweets. Yeah, my favorite cake is carrot cake.
Speaker 2:I like carrot cake as well.
Speaker 1:It's savory.
Speaker 2:I like it. I like carrot cake without the white stuff on top.
Speaker 1:Yeah sure, like every year for my birthday, my dad used to make me a carrot cake as a kid.
Speaker 2:Well, that's cool, yeah, I like. Make me a carrot cake really good. Well, that's cool. Yeah, I like carrot cake, but I I've always been a chocolate flavored dude, like chocolate, ice cream, chocolate, cake, chocolate, whatever. I always liked the chocolate. What else is that? Uh?
Speaker 1:go-to there, gene I mean, yeah, I've had some black girlfriends. Sure who hasn't?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, I've had some black girlfriends, sure who hasn't. Uh-huh, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hey, hey, hey, yeah, it's good that you're still learning. We'll have to find a little bit of time for you to watch Blackadder but that aside, it's all good stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have some travel to DFW. Definitely some travel to Guam, which that'll be fun, so there will be some time Maybe.
Speaker 2:Dude Guam.
Speaker 1:That's going to be a nightmare. It's like 20 hours of traveling. Yeah, I'm speaking sarcastically.
Speaker 2:It's going to be well like. The only reference to Guam that I have, since I've never actually been there, is in video games, in World War II, flying airplanes around it. I've never been there either. I don't know what the real Guam is like, but certainly in video games I have some sense of what it was like.
Speaker 1:It's just out in the middle of fucking, nowhere is the problem Pretty much.
Speaker 2:It's a refueling, stop it, it's just out in the middle of fucking.
Speaker 1:Nowhere is the problem much it's a refueling stop.
Speaker 2:It's where uh airplanes go to refuel. Yeah, so, but also people that are born in guam, us citizens yeah, they're us citizens who don't have to pay taxes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, same as puerto rico, which I'm also working on that island as well.
Speaker 2:So all the tax havens Gotcha. There's a pattern here Scoping out future locations to live. I see, huh, maybe, yeah, and there is a guy that I ran into once that actually had figured out a way, having not been born in Guam, to effectively give up your mainland citizenship to get himself a Guam citizenship, which was pretty interesting at the time.
Speaker 1:Well, because it is just a US protectorate, it is not a territory.
Speaker 2:Exactly exactly, but it's like you could still be president if you're born there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's got a governor and everything else.
Speaker 2:yes, it's almost like a state, Almost almost like a state.
Speaker 1:Almost like a state which, by the way, just like greenland. What do you think of europe re-arming? Almost like a?
Speaker 2:state. I think it's funny, um, because they don't even have the money to just live. They sure as hell don't have the money to rearm and live I think, there'll be mass starvation happening in Europe soon.
Speaker 1:The funny thing is they're going to be buying from our arms companies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So oh, fuck the US, here's $800 billion Wow. Seriously, lockheed Martin, everybody very happy. Hmm, happy in fact there's even talks of europe commissioning through lockheed and because lucky didn't win the, the uh f-47 uh contract, boeing did of europe taking their prototype and making it the european six-gen fighter really yes I had not heard that.
Speaker 1:That's interesting well, I heard it through our aerospace division, so okay, so you press it probably true so at least talks, yeah, which we've got. We've got ties to boeing, we've got ties to lockheed. We've got you know, hell, I, I literally have a company shirt with the artemis logo on it for the work we've done with artemis. Yeah, um which, I have one of those in a box for you oh okay, because that was gonna be my next question where's mine? I got you what?
Speaker 2:don't worry, buddy all right, good, good. Uh ben, why are you ordering a large? And a triple xl.
Speaker 2:Well, I like to be comfortable at night that's right, it's uh well, that's just my night sheet yeah, when I, when I take the girdle off, it really lets go oh, that's right nice so okay, that was an x drives like I got some random charge from x. I was trying to figure out what the hell that was okay. Oh, I guess I've been using their ai too much, or something the standalone grok app sucks um no, I wouldn't say that I've been using it what do you not like about?
Speaker 2:it. What do you not like?
Speaker 1:so if I upload a picture and say this is me, yeah, okay. And then I say, create an image of me doing x, y or z, uh it forgets and would use the little BSD Damon logo from my Twitter account as me. Right, If I do it all as one big long prompt, you know it's fine.
Speaker 2:Okay, and how are you telling it to use that picture in the second prompt? Well what are you saying?
Speaker 1:So if I write this is this is a photo of me, yeah. Now make a photo. This is a photo of me. Yeah, now make a photo, now make a drawing of me doing X, y and Z. Yeah, it just ignores that first prompt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would too. Why? Because you need to phrase it in a different way. You need to phrase it using the image above. Make a photo of blah blah blah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it blah blah. Yeah. Okay, Natural language processing my ass.
Speaker 2:That's very natural and I think, in fact, if you want the most natural language processing that Grok has, you need to make sure that you go into the personalities mode when is it? And make sure that it's on grok three and that what is the personality? The personality selected is argumentative 18 plus, so that will give you the most natural experience. And where is that in there? Oh, I'm sorry, do you not pay for it?
Speaker 1:I pay for X. I have not unlocked the super grok features.
Speaker 2:No super grok for you. Okay, okay, okay. No, I'm not paying $ a month well, I mean, you know rock's not gonna talk to peasants, is it? Okay you must really hate elon.
Speaker 1:Oh no, did you see the uh? Californ, the Luigi Mangione bill.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they're putting out the bill named after Luigi Mangione to restrict what health care insurance companies can do.
Speaker 2:They're literally naming a bill for a murderer.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:The bill restricts the rights of corporations?
Speaker 1:Yes, it's on par for Californiaifornia. I will say that, okay, fair enough. But at the same time, dude, when are we going to learn the lesson? When are we going to say uh, no, like, when is there going to be a line that isn't just going to get crossed?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a tough question because this goes along with the is there anything that somebody could say? And then the next part of it is there anything that somebody could do which would result in you being okay with an escalation to violence? And I think the answer to those questions is different for everybody. The problem is that, in my view, the answer to that question for the left has an extremely low bar. Essentially, if you've insulted them verbally, they feel like it is perfectly acceptable to murder you feel like it is perfectly acceptable to murder you.
Speaker 1:Well, and to be clear, I am fine with violence at a certain point because you know, that there there is a limit to what you can take and a limit to what is acceptable. Uh, that you, you get to the point where you have no other choice. You always have a choice. No, you don't. To quote Oliver Wendell Holmes, let's see if I can get this right. Between two groups of people who want to make inconsistent kinds of worlds, I see no remedy but force, and that is true. Now the left is saying well, there's that's true you always have a choice.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can capitulate yeah, exactly well then you don't really want to make that kind of world well, you may want it, but you're not willing to do it.
Speaker 2:I think those are separate things, but also this goes along with my saying of every country has the government and deserves, because you need to have a sufficient enough percentage of people in your population to want to affect change from the current system, to move to a different system. Now that change could be positive, moving from a woke government to a more of a a um well, less woke and and more nationalistic type government, or it could be a negative change, like Canada, but nonetheless you need to have people that don't just do nothing, like doing something one way or the other requires the decision to be made, and this is why what I'm saying about your quote is that it's not true is because the vast majority of people, when faced with that kind of decision, do literally nothing.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think we're at a point where we're going to start seeing that, like the Tesla owners, they get cut off. The woman in Arizona that just got cut off guy stopped on the side of the road. Guy jumps out. When she rolls her window down to go, what the hell? He starts beating the shit out of her. The next person knowing that that story happened, it's gonna get shut exactly yeah, yeah, as they should damn fucking right, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:But that's. I think this is like this would be a discussion I would enjoy having with multiple people um not maybe at the same time, but maybe uh, and maybe it's one we have on our super secret signal group um is, where is that limit for for you, like, where does that lie?
Speaker 1:because um sure, as long as we don't record it yeah, that way I can be honest. It's a private yeah, yeah, no, no, no reporters allowed that's the name, the group.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no reporters allowed.
Speaker 1:Yeah um, do we want to talk about signal gate at all?
Speaker 2:sure, let's talk about signal gate all right.
Speaker 1:So you know, we we've experimented with a few things. You put together that group basically to say hey, how did this happen? And it depends on your settings and the default settings. Now, these are government-issued phones that the government had put on an approved app and said, okay, we've done the hardening, we've done this. This should you know, this is how you should use it, but they didn't turn on notifications for when new people are at it so like explain that one to me?
Speaker 1:yeah, because you can turn that on you can absolutely yeah, so why is? The government hardened version of signal on the government employees apps not fucking hardened
Speaker 2:yeah, well, you know the answer, but the the answer is twofold. One is I think it's a mistake for signal as the company to have defaults that both allow you to anyone in the group not just the admin, but anyone to add a new person by default. Should have been by default without touching any settings. Should have been only the admin can add new people. The second setting is the notification one that you mentioned. Now, those are are the wrong defaults from the app. As far as I'm concerned, however, as you brought up, they should have both been caught by the it department that is responsible for issuing these government phones so what I'll say is signal makes decisions that I don't always agree with, but for ease of use and security.
Speaker 1:So, for instance, on android, they got tired of supporting SMS integration. To me it was great and I really I stopped donating to him after they cut this feature. The SMS signal combination was great.
Speaker 1:If someone has signal it's, it's, you know it uses signal If it's. If they don't, it doesn't. It's my only messaging app. It's easy for me to tell my dad hey, use this, my mom, so on. Now my dad, it's random if I get a message from him on Signal or via SMS, depending on where he's sharing from, and whatever, because he doesn't understand the difference. So to me it actually hurts people's security because no, they don't, they're just trying to send a message. So for that average, everyday, average user, you know the and the argument was well, but then you could accidentally be sending an sms when you meant to send a signal yeah, okay, and if I'm that dumb then it doesn't really matter and if
Speaker 1:I'm actually trying to think through this. Then I'm going to know enough to make sure that you know our, our, our identity numbers are correct. I'm going to make sure that there's no changes here. I'm going to make sure that we we have closed that loop. So I get them trying to make things easier for an individual by saying, hey, anyone can add anyone to the group. Well, well, hey, add Tim. Well, I can't add Tim, you're the like. I get it. Yeah, the settings are not. The default settings are not meant to be super, super, super secure. They're meant to be Convenient.
Speaker 2:I think it's the word you're looking for and we can't hear you. If you're talking, ben, because you went silent. You still connected. Yeah, you're still connected. What up, ben? You're quiet, you're on mute or your mic died or something. I'm going to pause it. Pause the recording. We'll be back when Ben reappears. Guys and Ben's back, all right, ben. Whoopsie, I'm sure you had a great rant.
Speaker 1:Where did I drop off? Because I actually did.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you did Well.
Speaker 1:anyway, the Signal app is okay for everyday stuff, but if you're going to allow government people to use it, then they damn well need to actually enforce some of the settings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they need to have hardened settings on it, and that's the part that's surprising to me. I think it should, in general, have defaults that are strict and allow people to go to a less strict system, but they don't. Okay. But at the very least they do have the options to a less strict system. But they don't, okay. But at the very least they do have that options to make it more strict.
Speaker 2:But for whatever reason, these options were not set on any of these guys' phones At least that's my assumption, since somebody did join them. No one knows. Now, the other thing I will say that I haven't heard other people mentioning, so I'll bring it up is it is quite likely that somebody other than the reporter had been on the list of invites to that call and that person, not being a fan of Trump, decided that, rather than just recording the conversation and leaking it, which is what they usually would have done, that instead they would just add in a reporter and then drop off the call immediately themselves, and that would show no difference on the signal app, because we tested this. If somebody just was invited in, they invited, then they dropped. It would look like they've never been there. There's no good history in Signal.
Speaker 2:Unless the person typed something, there's no record of them ever being on that call. And that's unfortunate.
Speaker 1:The other thing I would say is the disappearing messaging setting being enabled on these chats is actually a problem.
Speaker 2:I am very two-sided on that. I get the idea that all government records need to be kept, like Hillary never did. I also personally, on every one of my conversations in Signal, have a timeout Because I don't want, I don't need to keep those records.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's fine and that's good for you to do, but I like there are certain people in my life that literally I have years and years worth of messages going back. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I do, unfortunately, as well, and they usually keep sending me video clips of shit that I don't really care about go on somebody never mind all right, oh, okay yeah, people annoying, people go ahead
Speaker 1:you know what, if you don't like the video, the two video clips I've sent you during this podcast, then I don't know what to tell you something.
Speaker 2:I question your heterosexuality why does it have to be you? What? What is? What is that? Narcissism that exists in your head that keeps thinking that just if I'm talking must be about you, not you, okay, uh-huh, okay, I have other people that I communicate with.
Speaker 1:I don't know that that's true, uh-huh exactly what a narcissist would say no, just someone who knows you. Uh-huh, all right, gene. Well, we've been gone a little more than an hour and a half. What else we got to talk about? Because we we got to go a little bit more we've got more than that.
Speaker 2:We've gotten about an hour and 50 minutes, but uh we're almost to our mark. Well, I mean, those were the two big that's not what my timer says, but okay, your timer had to get reset. When you drop? Okay, when? Uh, the two big stories that we had obviously were the putin limo blowing up the signal stuff, which you seem to kind of be brushing off. But I will definitely confirm that.
Speaker 1:Let me just say this the reason why I'm just blowing it off is because, first of all, I I kind of am of the opinion that, okay, this seems pretty fucking scripted for one and two, even if it wasn't there. Okay, nothing, burger, there was nothing really it is nothing burger.
Speaker 2:There's nothing said yeah that is so okay, you know my only questions were about the topic I discussed, which is I. I did it in my own signal. I would check the defaults. I was able to create a group. Somebody else was able to add another person to it without me really seeing that it was happening. Like all those things happened, and I reached out to a buddy and had him do the same thing and he confirmed that on the government issued phone with the default settings that his phone came with, he was also able to do the exact same thing. So now we know how it could have happened.
Speaker 1:We don't know exactly how it did happen, but we have a pretty good idea how it could have happened yeah, by the way, did you see the uh, the uh number of it, or people tasked with provisioning equipment in the irs? Did you see that story? It came out of the brett bear interview with elon, did you watch that?
Speaker 2:I did not know you haven't watched that. I can't keep up with all the elon interviews lately.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no, no, the the brett bear two-part interview, two-day thing. You need to go watch that. I'm telling you he's got his cronies there and it is amazing interview and what they say. So they were basically saying there's 12,000 people tasked with provisioning IT systems in the IRS. So that means they could. If a person did two people a day of that 12,000, they could reprovision the entire IRS and list it a month. Why do we have that many people Like this amount of system, overlap, stuff that they talked about and everything else? It really is interesting and I was talking to a friend of mine who literally did audits in their government career, right, and I was like explain to me any rational basis for having double the amount of credit cards, uh, in the us government than you have employees over double well, because we don't do accounting like corporate america that's true and I'm like okay, but so you literally need a separate credit card.
Speaker 1:You can't just expense it out on the back end, correct? Why? Well, it's just the way it's done. Why?
Speaker 2:well, it's, it's done, you know, manually, by hand, on paper, with pencils.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of truth to that. Seriously, this is part of the reason why they can walk in and say, hey, we can do this way cheaper and faster and more efficient very easily. Unfortunately, there's a lot of waste and there's a lot of fraud Tons of waste. I am looking for pam bondy and team to actually, um you know, arrest some people over some of them?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm not, she's useless. The, the whole of government, operates very similarly to the company in office space indeed and the guy with the stapler.
Speaker 2:I forget his name. Um, you know that, like there are a lot of those guys working for the government, they're collecting a paycheck, doing doing nothing appreciable, nothing necessary, but they've been there for 20 years. They're, you know, they participate in all the company. You know birthday parties and everything where there's cake and they, they do all these things. They don't actually produce anything. They do nothing for the government. That is part of the necessary requirements of the government. They're just lifelong bureaucrats, collecting a paycheck, doing menial work or not even menial, but just doing redundant work, or not even menial, but just doing redundant work, work that, had it not been done by them, would never be missed.
Speaker 1:Well, it's definitely interesting times that we live in to get to be able to see this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean we. It's not really meant as a compliment usually, but yeah, I agree, we definitely live in interesting times.
Speaker 1:Well, Jean, apparently I'm having some sort of issue because you're now siloning and oh, I'm sorry, Did my normal voice kick in. Yeah, Well, regardless. Um, like you said, we've gone probably long enough.
Speaker 2:You won the end. I get it. No, we're good, we're good. So, guys, we'll catch you next week. We appreciate all the people that are monthly donors to us.
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Speaker 1:uh, so there's no cost for anybody, but it gets more people listening and more people talking and ultimately, that's the main thing that we want to do is start conversations well, and if you have a favorite episode of the show, sometimes the best way to get other people to listen is say hey, you don't have to go listen to the latest one because, like tonight, we're having issues and everything else, but just send them.
Speaker 1:Send them the link to your favorite episode that you listen to where you thought we had something to say that was uh worthwhile, and let them get uh hooked that way.
Speaker 2:Sounds like a good suggestion there, ben, we'll talk to y'all in a week Later.
