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When ICE arrests judges harboring gang members, it signals something profound about the state of our nation. Have we crossed into territory where our judicial system has become so corrupt that third-world tactics are now necessary? This raw, unfiltered conversation explores what happens when those entrusted to uphold the law become its most flagrant violators.

The timing couldn't be more suspicious – as judges are led away in handcuffs, a key Epstein accuser who repeatedly declared she would never commit suicide is found dead by her own hand. We connect these dots while examining what it means when powerful figures start "cleaning house" before potential legal proceedings. Is this the beginning of a much larger reckoning?

We don't shy away from global implications either, dissecting Trump's startling admission that Putin has only conceded "to not take all of Ukraine" in peace negotiations. This geopolitical chess match reveals how dramatically the Ukraine narrative has shifted, especially considering America has now spent more supporting Ukraine in a few years than Israel has received since its founding.

Deeper questions emerge about where America stands in the historical cycle of governance. Are we witnessing democracy's final act before something more authoritarian emerges? The conversation shifts to economic battlegrounds, where Chinese tariffs could force many companies to stop selling in the American market entirely, challenging Trump's economic strategy.

Perhaps most disturbing is our exploration of why autism rates are approaching 1 in 38 children, mirroring the dramatic increase in allergies over recent generations. We question why investigating potential links between vaccines and these conditions remains so controversial, even as RFK Jr. attempts to establish a national database to track these cases.

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Speaker 1:

Howdy Ben, how are you today? I'm doing all right, Gene. We just had a forceful restart to the show we were about to start. And I went to save a PDF and apparently something with the PDF was not good and blue-screened the machine Wait.

Speaker 3:

Adobe software is not good, hold on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Headline, so we had a premature show ending before we started.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's okay and you were late. Now I was late, so we can just go from there, I was not late.

Speaker 3:

If I text you, that doesn't count. Okay, I said I'm walking upstairs. Jesus Alright, busy week, lots of news.

Speaker 1:

Where do you want to start? I know where I want to start?

Speaker 3:

Where do you want to start?

Speaker 1:

Judges getting arrested. Who Judges? Getting arrested who. Judges getting arrested?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, let's talk about that Sure Kick off from there.

Speaker 1:

So ICE arrested judges, which is awesome. Which is weird that it was ICE, except that it was in relation to harboring apparent gang members. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean, we've been operating as a third world country for a while, and having corrupt judges be arrested is not that unusual in third world countries like we are?

Speaker 1:

Fair, but at the same time, it's still not normal for this country and it's it's refreshing, I'll put it that way it is.

Speaker 3:

It is. It harkens back to a time before, uh, you know, men were women, indeed. Um, I'm all for it, and I know there's obviously a whole slice of the libertarian wing that's like oh, just careful, what you wish for. You're gonna see the next president come in and round up all the conservative judges and put them in gitmo. Well, if they're not breaking the law, there's nothing to arrest them for, is there?

Speaker 1:

well, regardless, what it comes down to is you. You can't look if people are breaking the law. You have to either remove and repeal the law or, you know, uh, do something about it. So it's that simple.

Speaker 3:

And they're doing something about it which is kind of nice, Immune from prosecution.

Speaker 1:

They're not, they are not nor are their wives who are helping, and so on.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and let's see how they like having their family separated. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, we'll see.

Speaker 3:

we'll see what happens, yeah, and we'll go from there yeah, yeah and uh, they may have some uh outstanding international warrants too. How so well, I think they're interfering with the prison process of uh, of uh, which we call where we're sending people.

Speaker 1:

I mean I doubt that's going to happen.

Speaker 3:

File international warrants for them. We have the treaties in place, and then it'd be up to the Trump administration whether they extradite them or not, which would be hilarious, by the way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they end up in the shipping. Our judges, judges to el salvador. Yep, what do we do? Yeah, oh no, it it's interesting, it's, it's, it's. We've been begging and wanting to see arrests, and you know, what's striking to me is this is related to one set of things, but it's a ballsy enough move and it gives me hope that some of the other things.

Speaker 3:

I was gonna talk about shit out of people. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 1:

Well, you remember I sent you a story, literally a story, uh, read in an audiobook like format about yeah yeah about uh ice and corrupt judges and uh throwing a dossier down and saying you are no longer on this case, my friend, because you're under investigation.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I think, like I love that style. To me, that's the kind of shit that I always enjoyed listening to, is sort of you know, a narrative, but like a dramatic voice narrative of actual real-life events. Ah, okay, it's. If I could get all my news in that format, that would be my preference. Honestly, it's part of the reason I think I've always enjoyed podcasts like uh, no agenda is because it it has that certain feeling. Now I do think that, um, for my preference, no agenda has too many clips. I I liked it more in the early days when there was more conversation between adam and john and not just like clip, clip, clip. Yeah, that was pretty good. Clip, clip, clip. But okay, but some people don't like clips. I mean that, like, there's plenty of people that like shows like ours which don't use clips. So it really depends on what you're looking for, I guess.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's just. One is more of a pure opinion, the other is you know, hey, I'm going to back up my opinion with something. Yeah, we're doing an editorial Correct. Yeah, because part of that is because we're lazy.

Speaker 3:

Let's, let's admit it, not really well I am. I'm not going to call you lazy, but I I think that there's a. It's a combination of things. It is not having to look for clips, but it's not like I don't come across them like how much shit do I send you on a daily basis? Too much, too much, exactly. So I have the clips. It's not the issue. The issue is that what I think is interesting and what I care about is your opinion, not an opinion in a clip that I could watch myself okay, fair enough yeah, so anyway, judge is getting arrested and I think we're both for it, I think.

Speaker 3:

I think this bodes well as to what is, by the way, why are we calling them judges? Why don't we call them what they actually are Criminals, criminals.

Speaker 1:

Well, cause he was a judge.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Former judge current criminal. Yep, mm hmm. Like are you still a lawyer if you get disbarred? I think people would say former lawyer, are you still a doctor if you uh, get sued for malpractice and get kicked out of the american medical association?

Speaker 1:

well anyway, point is this is interesting and it's interesting timing given a suicide we had.

Speaker 3:

I didn't hear about that. What's going on there, dude? Check your ex dude. I was on x yesterday. I don't need to be on x any more than every eight or 12 hours.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh. Well, I sent you a note and this is kind of where I think it's going, but I've got to go find it now, If you sent it to me, it'll be sitting in here.

Speaker 3:

Was it the one where you were making fun of me writing a tricycle?

Speaker 1:

I don't know that I did that, but okay.

Speaker 3:

This is for midi accuracyity. It's all happening, yeah no no, it's his name ben I'm making it publicly known that in no way, shape or form, am I suicidal okay, virginia, bro, or what who's that?

Speaker 1:

she was one of the. She was the girl that accused Prince Andrew, or whoever, of diddling around Epstein's Island. And she has said for a long time that she would not commit suicide and is not suicidal. She made public declarations that she was not suicidal, kept saying that and then, well, she committed suicide, apparently.

Speaker 3:

And this goes along with what I've been saying for how long we? Will never see the epstein list.

Speaker 1:

Forget about it, move on um, I actually kind of with the arrest of the judges and then this move being made against her, assuming she didn't commit suicide because she said she wasn't going to. I think that this might be indication that we've got to get rid of some of the evidence that you know before it comes in. You know. So it's not just a list. Yeah, it's witnesses. Yeah, it's witnesses, it's stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I agree. But that's my point is like do you remember the last scene in the movie Casino?

Speaker 1:

I don't know that I ever watched the movie.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's a great movie. I would recommend watching it. It's a classic, but it's a scene where the mob bosses have all been arrested. It's right at that transition point where Vegas becomes like a corporate city instead of a mob city. And as they're sitting together with handcuffs on, they're talking about you know, we got trials coming up, we got a clean house, we got to cut some losses here. We got trials coming up, we got a clean house, we got to cut some losses here.

Speaker 3:

And then they start listing off the captains right, the guys that are actually like in charge of the field units, because these are the big bosses. They don't do anything and they're like yeah, jimmy, two Hands good, solid guy he's. You know, my nephew's wedding blah, blah, blah. You know he's not going to talk, he's blah blah. How about you know John Smith, or whatever? Good guy? He's been a solid earner for us for 40 years. His dad worked for my old man. But yeah, but, yeah, you know it's not one of us all, right, let's get rid of him. I think that's the kind of clipping that's about to happen. Is that people that are not directly even able to implicate somebody, but have some tendential knowledge? They know a little too much. They're going to start committing suicides.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's kind of my point, but that would indicate that there's going to be a move made on this. I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful. Part of the reason why we haven't seen some of the Epstein stuff is because they did find the actual real files. The rest of them, they went through it and went holy shit, we're gonna have to do a bunch of arrests all at once and it's gonna have to be coordinated, otherwise we're not like a big, big coordinated arrest thing, yeah, where half the government gets arrested in one day probably a third, but yeah yeah, it'd be interesting.

Speaker 3:

We haven't seen that scenario play out too often again.

Speaker 1:

Third world countries it happens, but and that one here- so, uh, nick ferretas did a very interesting episode on whether or not um the united states will get a caesar. Did you watch that one? I started watching it oh, you need to go around by well, the point he makes is well, which type of caesar are we talking about? Right?

Speaker 3:

because that's anyway. He goes through cincinnati, of course. What other kind is there, uh-huh?

Speaker 1:

god damn it. Anyway it's. Uh, it was fairly interesting arguments and it was it's worth a listen. I would recommend anyone who's interested yeah, go back to it, go, go, watch it.

Speaker 1:

It's, it's worth it. Um, anyway, the uh, the. The entire point here is shit like this has happened throughout history. It's also interesting because the last episode they did was on some of the political cycles of going from you know a king to you know someone who's worthy of that position, who has earned it, to a tyrant, um, to then democracy and revolution and so on yeah, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3:

Cyclists exist. Hard to argue that, yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1:

So it's interesting because we are in the stage of the cycle of democracy, yeah, and we're in the late stages of democracy. So are we then going to fall to a king?

Speaker 3:

What's that going to?

Speaker 1:

be, yeah. I don't think it's going to be Trump. God we can. What's that gonna be? Yep, yeah, I don't think it's gonna be trump, but, um, you know, it could be more of a temporary dictator. Uh, ask thing, if we arrest a third of the congress and senate that would be interesting and you know, dictator didn't used to have the connotation that it does today, so no, no, that's true.

Speaker 3:

Um, yeah, I mean like if it wasn't for people giving a bad name to dictator. It's just a different form of government. I always said I would make a great dictator okay you know I'm very benevolent. I just want to tweak things here and there, make the country run smoother.

Speaker 1:

I just want to tweak things here and there, Make the country run smoother.

Speaker 3:

Well, you know it's and I have the most important quality of a dictator.

Speaker 1:

If you look at what like Cincinnatus did and the way you know there have been those people in history, but they are extremely rare?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, we sure are. So, uh, one of my tweets that's been getting a lot of thumbs ups or whatever arts, whatever the hell the measurement is these days was saying uh, judges are not royalty. They should be held to a higher standard than the average citizen there seems to be a consensus, at least on Twitter, with that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't think anyone's going to complain about If they were truly harboring Trinidad and Argyle in their house, in their guest house and stuff like that. Iam, you know, in their house, in their guest house and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, is the judge going to argue? Oh, I didn't know, he was a gang member.

Speaker 3:

I think they always argue that you can't prove he's a gang member, because he says he's not Therefore he's not Some of the tattoos make it pretty damning. Well, we're going to arrest people for fashion statements. Now, what's next? We're going to start arresting people just because they're holding up guns at a bank robbery, and they happen to be there for fashion purposes. Come on man. It's ridiculous. There's way more than a third of the country that should be arrested right now. Well, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1:

It may be that we never get anything, but at the same time, when ICE goes in and arrests a judge and his wife like this, that gives me some hope.

Speaker 3:

Let me ask you a question why does Laura Loomer keep getting recommended to me on X? Adam, probably. Yeah, that's right, they're buddies, they're neighbors, yeah yeah, yeah. Makes sense.

Speaker 1:

They both live in Fredericksburg.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I think they're even closer than that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, dealing with car insurance these days and just having to get a car and change things out because of hail damage is just insane. And the way they're doing the valuations is insane. Oh really, yeah, what they consider comps and everything else and fighting with our have like 180 000 miles on um. So this is two other cars that are on my insurance.

Speaker 4:

Okay, okay, that's true yeah, so you know anyway my, my truck is fine and my truck has 217 000 miles.

Speaker 3:

Oh, thank you, I'm sorry I was off. Yeah, yeah, do you like rent that to mexicans across the border all the time for getting that many miles, or how do you get that many miles?

Speaker 1:

uh, I bought it new in 2013 and I'm still driving it I've.

Speaker 3:

I bought my uh grand cherokee in 2014 and it's got 43 000 miles okay I'm just making you don't drive as much as I do.

Speaker 1:

I mileage car. I do have a high mileage car, do you? Uber no. Okay, I just drive a lot. For the first few years of having that car, I was driving 110 miles a day for work on a round trip, damn.

Speaker 3:

Hey, let me ask you a question do you still have that um allergy thing happen? What do you mean? Well, you're like coughing and sneezing and wheezing and all kinds yes okay, why? So I've got a. I'll give you the deets off air, obviously. But uh, I talked to a guy that had out of Dallas. That said he got horrible allergies and he found a place in Dallas where they went and did a whole bunch of tests and then fixed his allergies.

Speaker 1:

He has no allergies anymore. Was it just an ENT? No, I think it just an ENT.

Speaker 3:

No, I think it's an allergy specialist.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Is he?

Speaker 1:

on like pills or shots or what.

Speaker 3:

He's not on pills. I think he said that his wife and him go in like once a quarter or something to get a shot. Yeah, I don't know that I want to do some of the allergy medicine shots because that's just side effects, dude. Side effects. I don't think it's medicine, dude, I think it's. Uh, it's very natural.

Speaker 4:

But anyway, I'll get you the info I'll connect you through there.

Speaker 3:

I just figured we needed the bingo card for a health topic.

Speaker 1:

But go ahead yeah, well, I'm going to do an allergy test monday.

Speaker 3:

So there you go okay, well, they did that at this place as well, but it's um, I think, uh, there are many ways to deal with things like allergies and it's not.

Speaker 1:

It's not just killing the symptoms either well, it's like rewiring your immune system well, hopefully I really would appreciate it, cuz man it's, it's bad, it's just like constant. Yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 3:

I had a freaking cold for a week and a half and I feel horrible and I couldn't imagine doing this like non-stop yeah all right. So we've talked about the uh epstein witness killing herself, even though she said she wasn't going to, which is pretty interesting to me, um you know, one of the signs of people who are going to commit suicide is talking about suicide a lot.

Speaker 1:

And saying that they're not going to do it. Well, it doesn't matter what they say it's just, if you talk about the topic a lot, it's actually an indicator. Well, maybe she did so what do we think of Russia bombing Kiev? About time, I think they've been taking too damn long to do that myself. But, uh, why? What do you think about it? Um, oh, I think they. I think they, um, they should have done it a long time ago if they were going to do it.

Speaker 1:

I think that where we're getting to in the line in the sands on the peace deal, about saying, hey, you know, territory currently controlled by Russia is going to be recognized as territory of Russia, and Zelensky just being delusional enough to think that he has any bargaining chips when trump is sitting there telling him no, when putin is sitting there telling him no, everyone is very much on the same page saying no, and I, I just don't know how zolinski is still in power. I, I really don't like.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how he's alive I don't know how the ukrainians have allowed that to happen oh, they haven't overthrown them.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I don't know, man, it's. Uh, I think that that obviously the west has been. Well, let's not separate the us from the west. Europe has been drinking the kool-aid along with ukraine, obviously, they they are pretending like this war has been in a victory condition since day one. Uh, it's always been. Ukraine is winning.

Speaker 3:

Um, if we look at the maps of control, obviously the picture is the exact opposite, with the exception of one big push from ukraine. It's always been moving the border in one direction, uh, but the us is still teeter-tottering. I feel, uh, trump hasn't done the thing that you and I originally talked about, which would be great for him to do, but he didn't, which is essentially, say not my problem. It's more important to the us to normalize relations with Russia and main and control China than it is to keep propping up and sending a bunch of money to what is obviously a lost cause and a dictatorship. So until that happens, I think that a lot of the EU guys are still going to pretend the US is backing Ukraine and, frankly, until the us stops sending money to ukraine, which it still has stopped.

Speaker 3:

No, all the all the salaries are still paid by the us. Every person that works for the ukrainian government receives a salary that is paid by the us. Until that stops, oh, the only thing we've done is we've stopped sending arms. Well, that's just a piece of the pie, that's not the whole pie. So when it's their opportunity to come to work and there's no salary to collect, at the end of the day, I suspect there'll be a different government. Right now, we're still propping up the Ukrainian government and Trump. Saying Putin stop makes Trump look very weak. He either needs to do something to make Putin stop or just say nothing and move on, because saying stop and then watch as the war continues and even escalates is effectively.

Speaker 1:

But he hasn't really said putin stop.

Speaker 3:

He literally said that. That's a quote from him. He said putin, stop. It was two days ago all right.

Speaker 1:

In what context?

Speaker 3:

because I didn't see that like stop he was doing another one of his pressers from the right, but he's not, he's not going to.

Speaker 1:

If he said that just literally. Hey, I really want you to stop doing this.

Speaker 3:

He's saying we're trying to get the peace negotiations going and Putin needs to stop, stop attacking, stop bombing, stop whatever. Okay, don't say shit unless you're going to be able to back it up. Agreed. So he would have said putin stop or will resume supplying weapons to ukraine.

Speaker 1:

That would have been more forceful well, or even if he had just said hey, putin, stop, or you know you're gonna have to fight this out the whole way because we're, you know we're, we're backing off, we're not doing this yeah, but now also that would, because that'd be a threat to zelinsky more than anything?

Speaker 3:

well, it would be. And and yesterday somebody asked them very aggressively, as typical liberal media would this is well. What has in all this negotiation with Russia? What has Putin? It wasn't agreed to? What has Putin not negotiated?

Speaker 3:

but compromised yeah yeah, what's he compromised or conceded? And Trump says to not take all of Ukraine. I couldn't believe that came out of his mouth. It's obviously what everybody's thinking, but no one's actually said it that way, because the European trolls keep pretending that Zelensky's on the verge of winning the war. But I think that was the first time I heard Trump say something so clearly obvious and I think it came out of frustration, because it's typically not the kind of thing you say in negotiation. But he said it is that the position that Putin is willing to negotiate is in not taking the whole country, which effectively means that the military analysts that are providing data to Trump have said it's probably about nine months and the whole country's gone.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think it could go much faster than that, to be honest with you, sure, sure. I think it would be relatively easy for Russia, and you know people can argue this. But I think if Russia wanted to just start using nuclear artillery or you know, any advance if we pull back? The only thing that's stopping them from having complete air superiority is the Patriot missile system that we're operating over there for Kiev, and if we stop doing that, it's over.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but here's the problem is it's not over until somebody with some power actually admits defeat, right? So if Zelensky is sitting somewhere else in Europe or in Florida and shooting with a green screen that looks like Ukraine behind him and he keeps doing that, the country is going to keep getting pummeled. So at what point do we just stop listening to Zelensky and just say Ukraine needs a real government to make a decision about its future, and that decision is going to limit the amount of loss of territory? But Zelensky, if he stays in, will only help ensure that more and more territory disappears forever.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, I think, if Trump is going out and saying publicly that you know what Putin has conceded is that he's not going to take the rest of this, the liberal position, I know, is going to be well, you can't trust Putin, and I don't know if we can or can't. But the real idea here is look, we are not going to fight this war for the Ukrainians.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 1:

And if he takes Ukraine let's say he decides in six months to just take all of Ukraine what does that have to do with us? Oh well, then he'll go to Poland. Okay well, poland's a tighter ally. We have a lot more economic ties, we've got a lot of things going on there. Yeah, we are not going to allow that. Now are we going to trade, you know, levive, uh, for boston, no, um, but again, why do we care about ukraine?

Speaker 3:

so that's where I'm at yeah, well, the previous administration certainly did, and the amount of money that's been stolen from US taxpayers and funneled over there, that's the real crime. That is much bigger impact to the United States than what a couple of Slavic countries are hashing over themselves themselves. Like the amount of money that either didn't have to be collected or, if it was collected, would have been used for better purposes, probably second to none. I can't. I mean, maybe world war ii is a bigger expenditure that we had, but I I know we spent more money on ukraine than we did on uh, on vietnam, like um.

Speaker 1:

We've given ukraine more military and economic aid in the handful of years than israel has gotten since its inception yeah yeah and even when an anti-semitic person says that, I mean, that has some vibe to it.

Speaker 3:

It's true, I'm not anti-semitic.

Speaker 2:

I didn't say it was you I just said randomly some random person if they said that, no, that that is true.

Speaker 3:

Uh, people always say that, well, israel is consistently the biggest recipient of us aid. Uh, and that's, I think, historically been the case and I don't agree with it. You don't agree with it. We need to defund israel. I've been saying that for years. However, it's hard to ignore the fact that we you're absolutely right that 50 years of Israeli aid is less than three years of Ukrainian aid. Yeah, it's insane.

Speaker 3:

For what reason? Like it seemed like Trump came up with a reason Well, we get their resources ad infinitum. Like we own their resources now as trade. Okay, that seemed like a fair deal or a fairer deal, and then Zelensky clearly backed away from that and wasn't going to sign anything to that.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, it looks like he signed away some of those resources already to the British.

Speaker 3:

Right, right, and I think that was more as a show of uh well, fuck you America, and so it's such a clusterfuck. People are not living in reality, they don't comprehend, and the UN was set up to keep them in their place and not from causing major wars like Europe has caused in the past.

Speaker 1:

Right, but we could have left Europe devastated and gone on a major expansionist route and there would have been no one to stop us. Yep Like we could have easily gone to russia and said we don't care what you do in europe. You go do whatever you want to do in europe, we're going to do what we want to do in the americas and we could have traded.

Speaker 3:

We could have traded russia a huge chunk of eastern siberia for europe. They would have taken that because they don't give a shit about. They've got so much forest and natural resources up there, they don't care and certainly.

Speaker 1:

Why would we want it? Why would we want siberia?

Speaker 3:

why didn't we want alaska same reason I don't know it's got cool looking bears. Cool bears live there, man uh-huh that's why we want alaska. That's why we want siberia. Do you? Do you not want to like have a pet bear? I don't understand how people don't want a pet bear. It's no, I don't we think differently about this one dude, the size turd that I had to clean up yesterday from the pet snake I've never seen a turd this big? Why are?

Speaker 1:

you? Why are we talking about your snakes defecation?

Speaker 3:

because I it's, it is impressive. I almost took a photo and then I thought, well, I don't know, man, people are going to think that's weird.

Speaker 1:

It would have been very weird.

Speaker 3:

Yes, it is literally. It was the size of a. What do you call those things?

Speaker 1:

A snake. No it wasn't the size of a snake.

Speaker 3:

No, I mean like thickness-wise, this was no human tur wasn't the size of a snake. No, I mean like thickness wise, this was no human turd way bigger than a human turd. This, this was the size of like a uh eggplant good god yeah, I know it's like holy shit, this thing's growing bigger. So yeah, now he's sleeping right now.

Speaker 1:

I gotta feed him tomorrow so you sent me a funny meme uh which one that I think has some interesting connotations to it about uh jd vance seeing the pope right before. Oh yeah yeah, yeah go ahead right before he passed. So you know, and it's funny that they're actually going around and saying, no, jd Vance didn't kill the Pope, and everything else people are actually going around and saying this and I think it's just hilarious.

Speaker 2:

I think people underestimate JD Vance okay, I think the guy JD Vance Okay.

Speaker 3:

I think the guy has some serial skills. He can go tell Europe what we think of them. And then we got a liberal pope. Well, he took care of that. So next one sounds like he's going to be a little more conservative. Maybe We'll see. Well, if it's that black dude, he's definitely going to be a little more conservative. Maybe We'll see. Well, if it's that black dude, it's definitely going to be more conservative.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do you really think that they're going to put in a black dude?

Speaker 3:

They're due. I mean they're about due for a black pope. Well, they already had a Mexican pope.

Speaker 1:

When. The last one. No, he wasn't. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

Okay, very white is all I'm saying Well, that's the talking powder. Anyway, we'll see.

Speaker 1:

We'll see what the conclave comes up with.

Speaker 3:

He's south american, yeah, but not mexican, and not like well, I use mexican as a general term of south of us right, but the hispanics in.

Speaker 1:

Uh, you know you can be hispanic and pretty white, so so, I don't know I can, yeah, sure.

Speaker 3:

Well, either way, we'll see what happens. I'm betting on the black guy.

Speaker 1:

All right, all right, I'll take that bet.

Speaker 3:

All right. Sounds like a plan. What else, Graham? You tell me Okay, let's see what else we going on. You tell me Okay, let's see what else we have here we talked about the war.

Speaker 1:

It is pretty strange to me that Vance saw the Pope just a few hours before he died.

Speaker 3:

Well technically, we don't know that he actually saw the Pope. He may have seen one of his body doubles.

Speaker 1:

Fair enough, but it's interesting why let the Pope go now? If you subscribe to that theory that he has body doubles and everything else, why now?

Speaker 3:

Why the timing? The? Timing well, he was old, sure, I mean, just naturally he was not a youngster. Um, I don't know, it's a tough one. I what I know is from the people that I would call friends, who happen to be of the catholic cult persuasion. Um, none of them like them, none of them like this pope.

Speaker 1:

No, he was fairly unpopular with any conservative catholic.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and and he. They always brought up the fact that historically there have been plenty of popes which went against the church and then were, you know, eventually died or got kicked out or whatever so I think there's a, there's a hope for a more conservative pope coming in from a lot of people, a lot of Catholics. Whether that happens, obviously it's a political game. There's a great TV series that was on called Borgia. I don't think you would have probably watched it. No.

Speaker 3:

It was done very well. It was a european production, so it had plenty of sex in it and um it. It looked at the rise of rodrigo borgia and, uh, I think fairly accurately reflected a lot of the happenings in the church at the time. And really the thing you have to remember is that they're not just electing a religious leader, they're not just electing somebody who's sitting on Peter's throne. They're electing the head of the country, which just raised its age of consent from 13 to 15. Yeah, just saying.

Speaker 1:

So there is the head of state aspect, but I don't again. That's part of the reason why I think the globalists are going to push for a pretty liberal pope again. Um, I don't know that we'll see a conservative pope. I don't know that the conservative catholic side is strong enough, but we'll see, because that is the side that has been growing. Yeah, did you see trump uh talking about greenland, saying he wasn't trolling about acquiring it?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah he asked him yeah, you just hurry up and do it actually. No, I'm not said trump when he was asked if he was trolling about Canada and Greenland.

Speaker 3:

So we'll see. I think Greenland would make an awesome addition. I don't understand what the big brouhaha is. Obviously they'll be better off with us.

Speaker 1:

I would think so.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now one interesting thing. I don't know any details about this, but I heard through X that whoever the guy was that was the top military US military dude in Greenland Station got retired. Okay.

Speaker 3:

And I don't know anything about who replaced him or why he ended up getting retired, but clearly there was some political disagreements there, that's interesting. Yeah, so he got replaced to a more Trump-friendly type person. But I don't know, man. I kind of feel like they're just waiting for there to be enough support in Greenland for Trump to make the trip himself and then actually announce it on his trip that Greenland is now part of the united states. And what are they? Gonna do about it seriously. What are they gonna do?

Speaker 3:

uh, freak out what is denmark gonna declare war on the united states for stealing their territory halfway around the world?

Speaker 1:

I mean, it would be interesting if they tried to.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I would love to see that. That would be awesome. Now, hey, putin, got a new target for you.

Speaker 1:

We're not gonna we're not gonna care if denmark becomes part of russia you know, it's amazing to think that we're just now in yet the end of the first hundred days of Trump's term.

Speaker 3:

I know it feels like the first four years are over.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's really insane. And what's really interesting is when you look at the state of where things are on just the injunctions, you know how much more could he be getting done if he didn't have these potentially unconstitutional injunctions? Across the swath. Yeah, I mean trump has like a third of all injunctions ever issued at this point against presidents.

Speaker 3:

I believe it, yeah, but he's also I think got like a third of all executive orders ever issued as well uh, not quite, but of all presidents ever in the history of presidency he's done quite a bit some of it I don't, some of it I don't like you know.

Speaker 1:

Close like some of the reform of education stuff, trying trying to get AI in there and subsidizing that.

Speaker 3:

It's a buzzword thing at this point. I don't know man, I would rather that we have robot teachers than real teachers at this point.

Speaker 1:

No, because it depends on who's programming the fucking robot. This is why you don't have your kids in school.

Speaker 3:

I know, but I would rather have the robots because we're more likely to be able to control the programming on them than we are to control the programming and the blue hairs so sure, if I can have a robot at home that I choose how and what it teaches my kids. Yep, fine, yeah it used to be called the wife, but still right, I think that there's nothing there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what happened there's? I'll tell you what happened. Yep, fine, yeah, it used to be called a wife, but still, right, what happened there?

Speaker 3:

What happened there is. I'll tell you what happened the 19th. That's what happened. Yeah, you know that answer before I say it.

Speaker 1:

You know, I, I would say Gen Z. It's pretty fucking funny. I was talking to my stepdaughter and, um, you know, I to my stepdaughter and um, you know, I said we were talking about a lot of things because we're going to look at cars and get this replaced. And I said, you know, I don't think everybody needs to vote. And she said I agreed. And I said, well, what if we did this? And I threw out the draft idea and she said that's fine, I don't want to vote anyway. That's good, cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think that's a actually a really legitimate way of doing it without doing it on on timcast tim not every show, but I regularly ask female guests if they're, you know, if they're willing to give up voting, and most of them say yes yeah, but that's a selection bias for who he has on the show, though, too. I know, I know, I know, but still it's nice to hear. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I think it makes sense and you and I have talked at Infinite about the idea that citizens should be earned, not received, and that there's inherently a benefit to having a, a test or a gate for citizenship and not just allowing any old person, purely due to their geographic location, become a citizen. Yeah. So, uh, what else? Uh, do you watch that Charlie Kirk video that I sent you?

Speaker 1:

that then a week later you sent me on uh bill maher yeah, no yeah, yeah, I'm bill maher yeah, yeah, I did pretty good right, very good yeah, I mean, he's making the argument I've made to you for a long time and he's making the argument that a lot of people have made with, um, uh, just the basis of mere christianity and everything else, modernized and explained I like charlie kirk.

Speaker 3:

I think he he's an ugly dude, but he's uh, he's got the right temperament, maybe because he's kind of ugly, but um, uh, I think that he's been uh, um, he's been doing good. He's been attacking the right pieces that need to be attacked, which is, uh, specifically the uh, specifically the educational indoctrination components, and being on college campuses, being in front of crowds of people that generally disagree with him. I feel like that's a.

Speaker 3:

It's not a place most people want to be, and so I like the fact that he's actually willing to stand up in those, in those locations well, and I think you know the.

Speaker 1:

His entire organization is geared around getting getting the youth vote where it needs to be.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah yeah, I I thought it was pretty funny about how intimidated he was of um, uh, what's his face? The host guy, bill maher bill yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Why do you think he was?

Speaker 3:

intimidated. Oh, he was definitely intimidated. If you watched that first portion and actually did you watch his Deconstructing my Appearance on Bill Maher video? No, I didn't. Yeah, he did that as well, where he went through the whole video and talked about it more at length. But you know, I mean you guys, basically Bill Maher has been on TV his entire life, since he was born and he may not be a huge fan of Bill Maher, but you can't help the fact that he's been very aware of Bill Maher. He'd be no different than somebody going on you know Larry King back in my day. It's like he may not be the biggest person on TV, but he's been around TV forever. I think Bill Maher kind of fits that same role at this point.

Speaker 3:

So I definitely noticed it in the beginning. He relaxed after probably 10, 15 minutes of conversation. But the first 10 minutes.

Speaker 3:

He was just uptight. It was pretty visible that he was not quite in the state of just chilling with a bro, which is, ironically, I think this was one of. Well, it wasn't one of his first, but it was a while ago. It was probably. You're going to have to help me with memory here. Who was the guy that originally we were gonna have the trump pick for the um? Matt gates. Yeah, exactly, good call. So when mad gates went on, bill maher. That was the opposite of what we saw with Kirk. Matt Gaetz shows up in shorts and a t-shirt like a Hawaiian shirt or something. Yeah, very relaxed, they're talking about banging chicks while smoking pot. They're just like yep, this is why I wanted this guy in there. This dude is like a regular dude. There's no pretense here.

Speaker 3:

Plus, it wasn't he like a preacher or something too?

Speaker 1:

and that gates? No, I thought he was not. That I know of huh, but uh.

Speaker 3:

Either way, I've always liked mad gates. I don't mind the fact that he was also willing to cross the the aisle on issues where he agrees with the other side. I think that's an important thing that more people ought to be looking at doing and then using that to get votes for the things that we consider important as trade, because if you vote for shit that you don't care about, rather than selling your vote, then you're not going to get anything back in return. So, anyway, we'll see what happens with Matt Gaetz, too. It kind of seemed like he got fucked, but he didn't seem particularly pissed off.

Speaker 1:

I don't know that. He got fucked. I wonder what the plan was. Well, it's been three months, right? I don't know that he got fucked.

Speaker 3:

I I wonder what the plan? Well, it's been three months right. What I don't see?

Speaker 1:

a plan fair enough, but I I don't know, man, we'll see. We'll see I, what ever happened, he's got a show and what he's doing.

Speaker 3:

But he's got a podcast yeah, he's got a podcast maybe he's gonna replace uh bongino and that big. He has a thing, uh, editorial. I'm called the rise and fall of mad gates and eight wild days. Hmm, yeah, interesting, hmm, yeah, interesting. Well, um, yeah, what else? What else we got? What else going on? I know you've been busy, so have you been watching anything or reading anything?

Speaker 1:

Um, I've been reading uh, reading the latest on our Harrington book, which is pretty good, but I haven't really been focused on that, like I have been traveling quite a bit and working quite a bit. I will say that you know, we can talk about the tariffs some if you want, and what I see is the effect. So, since I work for a big epc and looking at, you know what is the effect on our pipeline of what trump has come in and done. Well, we've seen, um, we've seen some grants from doe go on. You know multi-billion dollar projects, but we've seen a lot of manufacturing construction requests start coming in. So, for instance, novo Nordisk is starting. We're pretty tied in with them.

Speaker 1:

They're going to be building Pugovie factories here. Yeah, that's good. There's lots of interesting things Chip fab factories starting construction Data centers going like crazy yeah, interesting things. Chip fab factories starting construction data centers going like crazy. Um, yeah, we see a lot of updates uh happening in uh guam and puerto rico and we're involved with a lot of them. So, uh, both to infrastructure and you know, uh, all I can tell you is it's pretty interesting to see where the investments are being made.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah that is interesting. On a more micro scale, there's a video that I think is very good at explaining the potential downside of the tariffs.

Speaker 2:

The potential downside of the tariffs that was done by, by Tech Jesus from Gamers Nexus.

Speaker 3:

It's his, not his actual name, but but that's what everybody kind of calls him, because he's got the long hair and everything you don't say yeah. Did you watch the video? I sent it to you.

Speaker 1:

When did you send it to me? Like a week ago, dude. You send me a lot of stuff, and a week ago I was pretty effing busy, so were you okay?

Speaker 3:

well it's. I kind of doubt you would have watched it anyway, because two and a half hours long yeah but you know it. So gamers nexus is a bit of a misnomer. They don't do anything with games. It's basically a tech show on YouTube where they test the latest cutting-edge hardware, Whether it's motherboards, CPUs, GPUs, you name it. They're the guys who do all the hardcore comparisons and tests and everything. And you know big into Linux, bigux, big into like bashing everybody else. It's it he was hilarious at linus's roast.

Speaker 1:

If you ever saw license's roast, I've never seen that no, no, you know what I'm talking about, though.

Speaker 3:

yeah, linus tech tips, yeah, but so he had a roast about five years ago where, like most of the tech tech bros, journalists, whatever you want to call them from youtube all came out to roast him. It was his wife's idea, so it was pretty damn funny, um, and this guy was there, and I mean they had had pretty much everyone who was anyone in the hardware space. So this guy did a video where he went and interviewed five or six different companies from Austin to Nashville to California that are pretty big names in the hardware space, to see what tariffs are already doing with them and what potential impact there's going to be, and including companies like CyberPower, who I'm sure you've heard of of um, of uh um oh god, what's the?

Speaker 3:

uh, the one of the big memory manufacturers? Um, I can't remember. No, it was. It was a older one, uh, or like they've been around longer and crucial like ram, or when you're saying memory, or do you mean?

Speaker 3:

storage. Yeah, I mean, they've got multiple products now, but they kind of got their start in selling RAM, whatever. Anyway, big companies like that Talked about iBuy or interviewed iBuyPower, interviewed that guy that does the repairs, that used to be in New York, who's now in Austin. I forget his name. You know what I'm talking about, right? Yeah, kind of New York-y accented dude. All about the freedom of fixing your own stuff movement. And what's interesting and, I guess, somewhat predictable about it, is that a lot of these companies operate on absolutely minimal margin, meaning five to 7%. Uh, they, they work because of volume, in fact, between I buy power and cyber power, those two brands which are not related.

Speaker 3:

They're two different companies competing with each other. Those two companies alone are responsible for shipping one million PCs last year. Okay, a much bigger number than I would have expected. I would have thought it'd be the Dells out there that would be shipping numbers like that Not what I consider to be specialty brands, but um, they went through are they oeming for somebody else or no, they're selling on their own brands, okay, but you know, they're essentially uh, I guess dell's the same thing too.

Speaker 3:

They're kind of assembly shops, right, so they use other brands' products in their products. So when you're buying an iBuyPower, you're buying it because it's got the Intel processor you want and it's got the NVIDIA card that you want, not because of just their brand. Like you're getting it because they use the shit that you want. Anyway. Anyway, you're trying to get to a point.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the point being that they have already gone upside down, they're actually losing money right now and that, if the tariff of 100 percent hits all, these companies are going to stop selling their products in the united states, even though they're based in the us, even though they're still manufacturing products. All those products will only be sold outside the united states because they cannot make money in the United States.

Speaker 1:

There's a problem with that? The tariffs don't apply to semiconductor-based stuff. There's car rights for that.

Speaker 3:

They apparently do. I think that the list of exceptions doesn't cover all the bits in the PC, I'm not even sure it covers video cards, but they went through and they show how much impact this is going to have if it stays in, obviously. And no one's negative about the tariffs. Everyone's like, yeah, the Americas let China have its lunch, but for too long. Yeah, but, and that's the thing is like, would you use, uh, american manufactured if you could? Well, we could, we would love to. The problem is the rest of the world is paying four dollars an hour, so the only way we can compete with that in the United States is if no one can buy cheap products in the United States and their only choice is buying expensive products. And I used an iPhone as an example, which was actually probably a bad example on the Post and X, because iPhones are excluded. You know, tim Apple went in and did a deal with Trump where he promised to put $500 million into a new factory in the United States and that got him some time $500 million.

Speaker 1:

$500 million is not anything. On that $500 billion, sorry.

Speaker 3:

There you go, yeah, $500 billion into a factory in the United States. 500 billion, sorry.

Speaker 1:

There you go, yeah, 500 billion into a factory in the United States and I thought Apple was air shipping tons and tons of iPhones.

Speaker 3:

Well, they are air shipping. But that's the point. Right Is that they got an exclusion, Because right now, before they cut out for phones, what would have happened was nobody in the United States could have bought an iPhone 17 because it'd be $3,200.

Speaker 1:

That, or Apple doesn't the price of the. No, they just lower the price of the finished good.

Speaker 3:

No, they don't. Why not? Because they have profits to maintain.

Speaker 1:

Well this is going to eat into their profits but not selling in the US. It's way more into their profits.

Speaker 3:

It doesn't, because their biggest market is China.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how true that is.

Speaker 3:

Well, you should look it up then. I know it's true they sell way more iPhones in China alone than the United States. But if you look at Europe and other markets, that they're in the US is only about 20% of their market. So while Americans tend to buy higher-priced models, that is true. Where the other countries buy cheaper models, the volume more makes up for it. So now they got the cutout so it's not going to happen. So that example was actually a poor example, but it is still going to be true for other things and I think one of the things I actually sent you a link, just kind of my outrage link, like can you believe this shit was a listing in new egg for a whole bunch of different manufacturers 50, 90 cards. So 50, 90 Nvidia 50,90 is the current top of the line NVIDIA gaming GPU Ridiculously overpriced GPU.

Speaker 3:

It was ridiculously overpriced at a $2,000 list price Like that by itself. People were making fun of and saying this is ridiculous, that graphics cards have gotten to a point where not only does it cost as much as a whole computer used to, but it's starting to get closer to the price of a used car. Well, the tariff said hold my beer. And the current price of those cards right now is four thousand dollars and just over four thousand dollars well, so the price?

Speaker 1:

you should have built your new gaming pc earlier I should have.

Speaker 3:

I know I totally agree with that at this point. It's just not going to happen. I should be content with what I got, which is not a bad thing either. I mean, we all should be a little more content with what we have. Frankly, that's a good lesson. Uh, something about that in the bible.

Speaker 1:

I think too right yeah, well, there's not coveting your, you know, yeah, your neighbor's life and all that, like gluttony, is not a good thing, true?

Speaker 3:

um, the prices have. The market has reacted, so that's one thing. Another specific example was there's a company that makes high-end joysticks and seeing that these tariffs were coming, I put an order in uh it's. They're actually a belarusian company, but they manufacture in China and they're one of the two companies that make some of the best joysticks out there and put an order in for a throttle which I don't really need. But I knew that this was going to be my last chance to buy it cheap. I could resell it and just make money on it today, literally.

Speaker 1:

But okay, if you don't need it, yeah, why are you getting it?

Speaker 3:

well, I may need it. I mean, I may want it. I definitely don't need it, but also I could. Just why do you want? It well, it's kind of neat, so I'll tell you about it. I mean, I don't know that you really give a shit, but it's a unique throttle. You know what a throttle is, right? I'm sorry, you know what a throttle controller is for like a simulator.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah so this takes that throttle concept and then tweaks it for space games by having the, the top portion of the joystick, the bit that your hand is actually resting on, also be able to tilt left or right, or forward or back. Okay, so it's like, because normal throttle you just move front or back, right. So this thing, just like an airplane throttle, just imagine on top of a throttle having a joystick. That's what makes it kind of unique, okay. So anyway, and I wanted to test it out and see if I like it I actually don't like it that much, but it's still unique.

Speaker 3:

I had to test I had to test, but literally two days later there was a notice saying we've stopped taking all orders for the United States in anticipation of tariffs. So that's it. You can't buy them anymore. Not available, Okay, Okay, Cool. Which is, I mean? That's why I need to decide if I want to flip this and sell it for twice the price. If you can, why not? I should be able to, I think, Because you can't get them and that's going to make people want it that much more.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, have you seen the blank slate auto? Blank slate auto. Yeah, so go to slateauto. Okay, if you haven't seen this, it's a truck. No, it's a truck, suv, they have all it kind of looks like a bronco when you put it in the su, yeah, but it it's uh interesting because it's cheap and electric. So basically you customize everything and you set it up, but they're like they're talking a pretty interesting price tag here. I like the. Jeep version. It's too bad, it's electric.

Speaker 3:

It's not too bad. What's wrong with?

Speaker 1:

electric. I don't want an electric car, whatever. I don't want to have to charge my truck.

Speaker 3:

This is pretty cool man.

Speaker 1:

I just saw this. But anyway, they're customizable, full package, Even if you choose everything they're saying under $28,000.

Speaker 3:

They're never going to actually ship you one for that, but that's cool. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

They come with a dog. It's got a dog in there. Anyway, I just thought it was a modular car design. That was kind of interesting. I wish they made a gas version, because I would totally buy it.

Speaker 3:

Isn't there a modular laptop out there? I've seen Linus reviewing.

Speaker 1:

There's a couple of them, yeah.

Speaker 3:

They ain't good.

Speaker 1:

I mean, what do you mean? They're bigger and bulkier and lots of other things. It's not worth it, you know? I mean it just depends on what you're after, man. Anyway, I just saw that I like the jeep version of it. Yeah, me too. Kind of looks like a Bronco.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the one with the roof off, yeah, and the seats in the back yeah, all right. Anyway. So how much is it Like?

Speaker 1:

I said Are you?

Speaker 3:

going to get me to buy a car online while we're recording a podcast? Yeah, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1:

Why would you buy a car online while we're?

Speaker 3:

recording a podcast. I want to take a look at it, or something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it comes in at like $28,000.

Speaker 3:

That's fairly inexpensive. Is it made in China? It's got to be made in China.

Speaker 1:

This is something that's a cash car, you know. Yeah, it is Looks pretty basic. Yeah, that's part of the point.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and oh, it comes in gray. It only comes in gray. That's hilarious.

Speaker 1:

While you're looking at that, did you see that the Trump store started selling Trump 2028 hats? Nice, cool, that's awesome and everybody's like oh, he's going to try. He's going to try and stay in.

Speaker 3:

Not only it's not Don Jr, Not only that he should just not leave. Yeah, who says he has to leave? I don't think he has to leave. Stay as long as you want, Trump. Yeah. So the color options are all wraps.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can do different wraps. That's a great idea.

Speaker 3:

So they don't have to worry about paint. You know, one of my favorite cars was a saturn because it had plastic body, which was great. Uh, no issues with uh rust, no issues with hail, like nothing mattered yeah, I'm sure this, you know, will be very plasticky too that's what I'm thinking and it feels like, based on the size of people standing next to it, like this is more of the way trucks used to be back 20 years ago.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's, it's like a small truck today.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah yeah, although the ford rain, not not the ranger. What's the little one, the ford? Uh, the one smaller than the Ranger.

Speaker 1:

I don't think there is anything smaller than the.

Speaker 3:

Ranger. Oh yeah, there is, it's an.

Speaker 1:

F-150. No, the Ranger's, the little light-duty truck.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but there's a smaller one than the Ranger.

Speaker 1:

I do not believe there is the Maverick. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3:

So it's more the size of the Maverick, I think. But the Maverick already gets 40 miles to the gallon. Mm-hmm. Because you get it with a hybrid, but it's a lot more expensive. It's like 40 grand.

Speaker 1:

Maverick's starting at like 26. No one buys those.

Speaker 3:

Okay, maverick Tremor or the FX4. Yeah, okay, rick tremor or the fx4.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the uh anyway I've been looking at cars a lot lately, so yeah, yeah, well, you know, what do you think? What do you think? Do you think don jr is ever going to run?

Speaker 3:

I like don jr. I, my dad even likes don jr. We've talked about him. Uh, I don't know that he has the gumption. I think he's got a good personality. He's almost like too normal. I don't know that he has enough showmen in him to run Maybe, but I like him, I. I you know a guy who goes fishing, in the hunting, and uh wears um, uh, what do you call that pattern with the squares? Um flannel, flannel, yeah, yeah, I mean, these are right in my book okay, cool yeah, what do you think he's gonna run?

Speaker 1:

I think there's a chance. Yeah, um, it would actually kind of be interesting if he. It would be really interesting because he is, I think, patriotic, I think he has a lot of good ideas. I think he's a very good spokesman for his father and it would be very interesting to see a vance trump ticket in 2028 like don jr's vp vp yeah getting the experience and everything, and then yeah you know moving men?

Speaker 1:

yeah, then after vance is done, you know, yeah, like I don't see how the Democrats survive, dude, did you see the spat between Carville and Hogg?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, yeah, like Hogg is talking about spending hundreds of millions of dollars to go primary. The Democrats that are not woke enough. Yep.

Speaker 3:

I think you should. I agree, yep, that's the only Democrats that are dangerous. So that's a good idea, and Carville is a Clinton-inton the era democratic operative right he.

Speaker 1:

He would be considered right wing today by their standards oh, he's a nazi, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

You know he even married a republican woman. How dare he right? Yeah, yeah, mary madeline. Um, yeah, he's. Uh, he's a crazy dude, but also I I like his cooking show. He has a cooking show. He used to have one. He doesn't have it anymore, he's getting old, but he used to have a cooking show the raging cajun.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, I I I thinkg is going to really demolish the party.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's good. That's what we need. That is what we need. It's nice to take pleasure in the tears of your enemies.

Speaker 1:

Some schadenfreude, yes, yeah, some schadenfreude, yes, yeah yeah, I may have to take a call, because if they keep calling back, I'm gonna. Oh, okay, yeah, so it's about a vehicle, no, I actually did purchase a vehicle while we were doing the show.

Speaker 3:

I just didn't say you fucker, god damn it. You beat me to it you bastard.

Speaker 1:

Uh, I put a deposit in online so I can go get it nice, what'd you?

Speaker 3:

what kind of car are you getting?

Speaker 1:

it's a replacement for stepdaughter, so she's not for your truck. No, she has a uh ford escape yeah, I remember that, yeah, it's getting totaled out because of the hail damage.

Speaker 3:

Crazy how bad it is actually damaged. Do you actually see?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it's it'sed out because of the hail damage. Crazy how bad it is actually damaged, do you actually see? Yeah it's. It's pretty dented up, but it's just ridiculous. The car insurance right now sucks, so, anyway, she's gonna go back to a sedan, so she's getting a jetta. That's a decent vehicle.

Speaker 3:

No, it's a turbo four-cylinder, oh, just a regular one. Okay, their diesel's got really good mileage.

Speaker 1:

I remember back in the day hell this little turbo, uh, four cylinder, gets 40 miles to the gallon really damn.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm gasoline, that's even better yeah, 30 city, 40 highway, oh, yeah, yeah, that's pretty good. So, yeah, I, I don't mind those interiors, they're pretty good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is a pretty basic car, but that's okay yeah.

Speaker 3:

So what's happening? She wanted a cheap payment. What's happening to her old car?

Speaker 1:

What do you mean? We're surrendering it. Yeah, you're not going to buy it back from them.

Speaker 3:

No, well, you should find out how much.

Speaker 1:

I already have. How much? It does not make sense. Well, how much? How much would they offer to buy it? Wanted us to buy it back for yeah, yeah, oh, let me see, I am buying the other car that was damaged back and fixing it okay um, so if owner retained, uh, they would. So the total settlement was like $17,000. If owner retained, we would pay, they would pay, we'd get $7,200.

Speaker 1:

So $10,000, they went for it yeah ish $10,000 on a total title no, because in Texas it's not a salvage title, it's not no, because it is not structural damage. They cannot make it a salvage title on hail.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I was going to say if it's salvaged then you usually get a great deal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not, that's too bad. Yeah, and we still have a loan on that vehicle. Yeah, it's not. Okay, that's too bad. Yeah, and we still have a loan on that vehicle.

Speaker 3:

Oh you do Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and we'd be upside down on it and that doesn't make any sense to then have to also fix it. The Explorer that we have, they want. Let's see what is it. I'm trying to do some math. They want about seven for it. So that's fine, we'll do that, and then it'll cost me over what I get from insurance. It'll cost me about a thousand bucks to fix, but it's still a free and clear vehicle. You know everything else so cool.

Speaker 1:

But it's still a free and clear vehicle. You know everything else so cool. But yeah, I'm getting rid of full coverage on all my vehicles, oh yeah, Except this Jetta that I'm getting, and I'm owner financing that one for her, so I'm saving her a shit ton in interest rates right now. Yeah, exactly Like auto loans dude 11%. Auto loans dude 11. It's incredible that's.

Speaker 3:

That is on the high side, I think most, I'd say. The average over my lifetime was probably like seven they've been high sometimes they've been really low sometimes, but the last I.

Speaker 1:

I had a zero interest loan on the last one. Yeah, lexi's car was seven.

Speaker 3:

Um then my truck was two and a half, you know but you realize that two and a half and zero is just they're. They're financed by the company, not like it's not a bank doing it for that cheap. It's that the manufacturer is so no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

My, that two and a half uh for my truck was through my credit union really holy shit, that's super cheap.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, wow, yeah, I don't, I don't know. I the last uh three or four cars I just bought for cash, but it was a uh before that. I remember typically like if it's a bank loan, it'd be between five and nine. If it was a specialty deal by a manufacturer, obviously it could be cheaper than that yeah, well anyway.

Speaker 1:

So uh, she's getting a cheap loan from me, so there you go, yeah. Nice.

Speaker 3:

And uh, you know, you just gotta make sure that she still pays you. Yeah, Well, got an owner financing agreement. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1:

And it's going to be my name on the title only.

Speaker 3:

So there you go. Oh, so you could repo it pretty easily then. Very yes, nice see I'm. I can't be anti-semitic gene yeah no you're just a self-hating jew. We have, we have, uh, uh. So I keep waiting. Uh, you know, the new South Park season starts, I think, in end of May, beginning of June. Oh, are they?

Speaker 1:

doing a new one.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, cause they didn't hit or miss on it are they doing, and of course they're doing a new one. Uh, the promo for it is already up, okay, so you can watch that. But yeah, I think it starts in june. It's always a must watch television. You gotta watch the south parks okay, and well, I don't know that I wasn't going anywhere with it. I was just a reminder before I forget that you should watch South Park.

Speaker 1:

Okay yeah, it looked pretty good it usually looks pretty good. Oh yeah, South Park's usually great.

Speaker 3:

So go ahead. They're showing more Canadian American-Canadian battles in it. That was in the preview.

Speaker 1:

Oh God, that would be hilarious.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm, we're that was in the preview, so oh god that? That would be hilarious we're probably going to go to war over greenland or something with canada.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh, well, we'll see. So um, there was another story. Oh, real id, what do you?

Speaker 3:

think of the, uh, the we're finally going to be enforcing real id I mean to me just feels like, feels like a little too much about nothing, because we've had real ID in Texas for what like 12 years?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but enforcing it at the federal level. And what does that mean? Well, biometrics for one. Like they may remove the exemption for the facial recognition when getting on a plane.

Speaker 3:

What if your face can't be recognized?

Speaker 1:

I don't think that's anyone in life.

Speaker 3:

I'll tell you what they did remove an exemption for is arm raising. What do you mean? Well, for the last 20 years, since 9-11, I've always walked around the scanner machine and just got a metal sticker by saying I can't raise my arms.

Speaker 1:

It depends on the type of scanner, though, too.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's the thing. So Austin just got all new scanners.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the little flat ones that aren't like round and you walk between the two plates.

Speaker 3:

I guess. And so I'm like, yeah, I can't raise my arms. They're like, oh, you don't have to. I'm like what? I mean, you don't have to, and uh. So then I had to come up with another excuse to why. Why don't you have global entry? I used to have global entry. I was just too lazy to renew it. Oh, man.

Speaker 1:

No, global entry is the way to go, because then you know talking about biometrics. What about it? Well, I mean, you're the one who's against them right, but I'm surrendering that at the border and saying, okay, I'm, I'm okay with this for border crossing, that's.

Speaker 1:

That's very different than and it gets you through all the other shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it gets me the other stuff, so it that may be a little bit of a specious argument to some, but it's it's fine, I'm making a decision for global entry and global travel yeah yes, that gets me the other stuff too, which is a benefit.

Speaker 1:

But like I never had pre-check, I never did pre-check because I refused to do it for domestic travel. Right, because I don't think they should be requiring that at all. Right, and I'm the kind of guy that, um, if I was in a hurry I'd pull the can't lift my arm over my head trick. And if I wasn't in a hurry I would ask for the free massage. You know I'll make you pat me down, boy. Yeah, not doing it, not playing your games.

Speaker 1:

Free massage exactly yeah, and I, I would literally say that to the tsa agents yeah, some of them got a real big kick out of it. Someone looked at me like what the are you talking about? Dude.

Speaker 3:

And then I had to explain yeah, and I honestly, if I would have been flying more, I probably would have re-upped it, but just with as little flying as I do these days. Yeah well because a credit card will pay for it.

Speaker 1:

Okay so why aren't you doing it?

Speaker 3:

I don't fly a whole lot, I'm lazy okay, I mean it wouldn't be a big deal.

Speaker 1:

Just drive down to the airport and sign up for it well, you, you're gonna have to redo your interview, and all that, though I know that's what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's been several years since I had it. So, yeah, everything would have to be redone. Yeah, it's been several years since.

Speaker 1:

I had it. So, yeah, everything would have to be redone. Yeah, so I don't know if Austin is one where you can do the interview on re-entry, but you know, just next time you're going to Mexico or something. Uh, you know if you can do the interview on re-entry?

Speaker 3:

then, that's the easiest way to do it and try and schedule an appointment.

Speaker 1:

It's real close to me, right, but getting an appointment for global entry is a pain in the ass. That's why doing it on re-entry is easier and faster.

Speaker 3:

I see what you mean. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, what else? I'm trying to think what else is going on?

Speaker 1:

We talked about tariff shit well, it looks like aoc is running in 2028. Did you see the?

Speaker 3:

I saw that that was a parody.

Speaker 1:

Uh, we are one. Nope, it was official put out. There are parodies that people have made making fun of her.

Speaker 3:

So oh yeah, I just assumed there was a parody no, it looks like, uh, it's actually gonna happen.

Speaker 1:

So, and you saw that, uh, elon is stepping away from doge yeah, I saw that that was as expected. Yeah, I mean he can only serve X number of days. So I think they're actually trying to strategically preserve some of his days. And you know, we'll see. Well, the reality is what this the process has been set up.

Speaker 3:

Exactly exactly Like what is he doing. Day process has been set up. Exactly Exactly Like what is he doing day to day. Not much Right. He brought on a team, he's got the process worked out. He's mostly still just campaigning for people.

Speaker 1:

Frankly, Now, what she can do is not an employee, exactly.

Speaker 3:

And this allows them to get back to actually running the companies that make money for him.

Speaker 1:

Well, and Tesla has definitely suffered from this, but I don't think it's going to go back Like I don't think, like I don't see. I think Tesla's done, I think he's going to lose a shit ton of money. I mean, have you seen the new Toyota engine? Not to make this the auto podcast, but have you seen the new Toyota? No, so Toyota has a hydrogen combustion engine.

Speaker 3:

They've had one for years, man. The problem is, there's no infrastructure for hydrogen.

Speaker 1:

And it's very difficult to transport um okay, uh, they, they've got a new engine mariah yeah, um, but this is a very interesting hybrid.

Speaker 1:

Uh, like they're working on like a hydrogen combustion engine that can do um multiple fuels, so you could have hydrogen, you could have um methane, you could do a lot of things, or you could do they're even working on one that would be dual fuel with gasoline. Um, you have projects like what I was referring to with the DOE grant in California and other places for these hydrogen hubs where they can start putting that in. Anyway, hydrogen it makes more sense than electric, because, know, then, than electric because it's you've, you're fueling up the problem with hydrogen.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's a quick recharge, that's what you mean. The problem is just is then well, that's, that is a recharge. You're recharging when you, when you're charging a tank of gas it's a recharge, not a refuel. Sure, okay, it's gas, it's not a liquid. Okay, but the problem with hydrogen is the high volume of it.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it has to be pressurized.

Speaker 3:

It's low weight but high volume, sure, yeah. And so I don't know. I mean, I what? What does Toyota say? What's their range on these things? How long can it go?

Speaker 1:

Um, so it's it. I don't know what the range is. This is the combustion engine I'm talking about is still in a prototype stage. It's not the Mirai engine, it's a newer version of that. But again, I think it depends on what fuel you're burning and so on. So I don't know, I think if you end up with hydrogen hubs, I think if you end up with a lot of this stuff. It will be interesting yeah.

Speaker 3:

The other problem with hydrogen is it doesn't burn and detonates. It does burn.

Speaker 1:

It oxidizes.

Speaker 3:

I mean like if there's a leak, you have a massive explosion. You don't have like a fire, sure. So I think that there's some issues with hydrogen. I like hydrogen in general. I think for rockets hydrogen is awesome. It is a great fuel For cars, maybe even for buses, absolutely like, I think, all large transportation trucks and buses, they should all be hydrogen powered because that makes sense.

Speaker 3:

they they're. They've got real frames, they've got a much higher mass that needs to get moved and in fact a hydrogen generator, electric hydrogen plant would make the most sense, but for just regular passenger cars. I have not fully bought into that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, we'll see, but I think it's going to be interesting, to say the least. I think it's going to be very hard for him to compete If a hydrogen economy which this is what the New World Order wants anyway is clean hydrogen. If we go that route, I think I don't see why you would buy an electric car that takes 40 minutes to charge at a minimum and that you have to deal with and da-da-da-da-da.

Speaker 3:

That is the main problem it solves Now. Musk had a video about a decade ago showing a quick swap of batteries on a Tesla. Everybody was like, ooh ah, I didn't, nobody, it never went anywhere.

Speaker 1:

Um so man I mean okay.

Speaker 3:

So I've looked up the mirai. It looks like people are getting anywhere between 200 and 280 miles per gallon, which is or not? Per gallon per tank, yeah, which is all right. It's rated at 400, but no one's getting anywhere near that.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is a new version that they're starting and, by the way, your resume went to spam.

Speaker 3:

Oh, of course it did, yeah, so now you would be willing to drive a hydrogen, but not electric. Sure, even if the hydrogen there's only like two gas stations in the city you could fill up at.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is where a hybrid model that can burn multiple different fuel types is so important, because it gets you that bridge right. If they come up with an engine that can burn gasoline or hydrogen and it has two different tanks, you're damn right.

Speaker 3:

I would go for that in a heartbeat, yeah yeah, and I guess you could do hydrogen in a reciprocal reciprocating engine. You don't have to have a uh, it's getting the injectors right, more than anything right, right, but I I guess, when I think of hydrogen for vehicles and maybe I'm this is just my problem, right but when I think of hydrogen for vehicles, I think of a car that's using a fuel cell right.

Speaker 1:

But this is. That's not what we're doing here, but they're just using a hydrogen. Internal combustion engine.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, an internal, an ICE engine running on hydrogen. Yeah, it's pretty neat, I guess. I mean, you could do so much more with hydrogen though. Yeah. You could have fresh, pure water in your car Sure Generated by the car Sure.

Speaker 1:

How cool is that, if that's what you want.

Speaker 3:

You can make tea while you're driving. You and your tea. I would so buy a car that had a tea maker in it. Yeah, it just dumps tea out the rear end no, it's not that the rear end dumps it into a cup your exhaust. Is tea coming out into a cup?

Speaker 1:

well anyway. Um so with the tariffs. Doubly hits tesla, though, because like they're having to cancel orders to go to china.

Speaker 3:

That are you? Know going to china yeah, well, there's a couple things. First of all, much like with other products, the world market is actually bigger for tesla than the us. Uh, germany buys a shit ton of these things. Anda lot of countries in europe do. They have programs cars, but you've heard.

Speaker 1:

Adam saying that people are stopping buying Teslas. They're hiding their Teslas in. Denmark, for sure. So you know, yeah, like why they care about what Musk is doing here.

Speaker 3:

I don't understand. Stupid politics is what it is, but I think I'm just looking at the stock price. It's actually up in the last week, so I don't know. I don't know, it's nowhere near where it was. It was at about 400. Right now it's about 284. Okay. But it was as low as 220 over20. Over the last three months, did you buy the dip? No, I bought it way well below that.

Speaker 1:

I'm still up.

Speaker 4:

You didn't buy more. I'm upside down. Did I buy more?

Speaker 3:

No, I didn't buy more because I bought fucking Ford. Now I'm stuck with it.

Speaker 1:

Wow, why'd you do that? I don't know, probably because somebody said well, with the tariffs, American car companies are going to do much better.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we'll see. So I'm hoping Ford goes up. So far they're hovering right around where I bought them. Give or take Too bad, yeah. Give or take too bad, yeah, I know, but it's. I'll tell you, everything will go up when the matter of tariffs is settled with China. Doesn't mean matter what the end result is. When there's a final end result, everything will go up.

Speaker 1:

Because the biggest issue right now is just the lack of clarity and predictability yeah, um, and I think the tariff issues are going to get settled pretty quick. Um, I think china is going to, I think china is going to come to heel man. Um, most of their exports, their economy, goes to us. Um, and if we stop policing those sea lanes, or actually even getting to the point where we interdict their shipping through some of the sea lanes, hey, oh, we can't do, they're done yeah, you're completely wrong because you, you, you listen to that colorado dude for way too long and you've assimilated his viewpoints about china.

Speaker 3:

Um, the us only represents 16% of China's exports. We are the largest single place they export to, but we are by no means a large part of their exports. 16% is. Even if they lost all US exports, yeah, it would certainly have an impact to their economy, but we would have a much bigger impact to our economy during that loss of all Chinese products coming into the US than China would by not selling those same products to the US. This is a problem. We're playing chicken with China. The pain factor here is vastly different for the two countries. They would be inconvenienced.

Speaker 3:

We would not have toilet paper on the shelves of grocery stores disagree we'll get to watch it, dude, I don't think china's gonna paper is made here. Oh my god yeah it's. I'm using an analogy paper is not made.

Speaker 1:

I'm relating back to the what happened, so we don't have cheap plastic chinese goods?

Speaker 3:

oh no well, no, we just don't have any goods, because all goods come in in plastic that's made in china. Okay, you know, I mean it's again, I'm being obviously exaggerating here, but but the point is, I think it is unrealistic to think that a cessation of US-Chinese trade is something that the US can survive better than China, because that's just not true. China has their fingers in too many other pots. That's just not true. China has their fingers in too many other pots. The US is single-sourced for a vast number of products from China, including medicines. I guarantee you we'd have medicine shortages in this country, 100% guaranteed.

Speaker 1:

We probably would. Now, like I told you, we're already seeing pharmaceutical companies investing in putting facilities here.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and those are three to five years away.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, everything's three to five years away, except when there's a massive, massive investment, there is construction time, it's still three to five years away.

Speaker 3:

Construction still has to happen. Regulatory things still construction time it's still three to five years away. Construction still has to happen. Regulatory things still take time. Bureaucracy still moves in a stainless space.

Speaker 1:

Right. But when people say, oh, you're not going to see any economic impact from this because it's going to take three to five years to build a plant, you're going to see a huge economic impact from the building of the plant. Oh sure you will.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think anyone that can get into a job that ties into the tariffs being in place is going to make money. But, also, a lot of companies are going to stop selling to the US. Okay, we'll see. I hope not. I hope we don't see, because that would suck, but we are starting to see it right now and fringe the products that are purely optional and not necessary for anyone. But you know, if it's like, here's the thing Trump makes a cutout for iPhones.

Speaker 3:

Right, he makes a cutout for a lot of different products based on what people want here Doesn't mean they have to do likewise. Okay. So I think that there's a bit of a naivety in assuming that the rules of trade are 100% up to the US. This has always been a negotiated thing and every year China has gotten into a better negotiating position than the previous year. We can blame the Obama and the Biden administrations for letting this go To some extent. Trump well, he was in the office as well, but not as much.

Speaker 1:

But the reality is china of today is not china of bill clinton years I, I agree, but you know, I I think that we still have a lot of influence and I think that we will. I don't think the way china's economy is structured, I don't think they can survive losing 15, 16 percent of their, their exports. I just don't think they can do it. They're already debasing and devaluing their currency. To run at a deficit it costs China more than what they export.

Speaker 3:

What costs China more?

Speaker 1:

All the goods that China makes. There are a lot of them that are sold at a loss, and it's the Chinese government debasing their currency and subsidizing it that makes it possible.

Speaker 3:

So if those goods don't get sold, then the Chinese government doesn't have to subsidize them.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, because if the Chinese government stops manufacturing it, people go out. They cannot stop manufacturing dude.

Speaker 3:

Well, I don't know man, why do like they cannot stop manufacturing dude. Well, I don't know, man. Why do you think they can't? Because there will be a revolt. Show me one time that that happened.

Speaker 1:

One instance Show me one time that the communist government has stopped manufacturing, since they've been the manufacturer of the world.

Speaker 3:

That's not really a. Thing.

Speaker 1:

Okay, anyway, I don't think that their economy can. We can agree to disagree on this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I've had this position the whole time, since you've been watching that Claretta do. It's like Americans underestimate, underestimate china consistently. If there's one thing you can say about american attitude towards china for the last 50 years, it has been completely underestimating china the entire time.

Speaker 1:

So fine, um, we'll see. So what do you think of the? Um the autism stuff that RFK is pushing?

Speaker 3:

You mean the food coloring or which autism stuff?

Speaker 1:

No, the ones to use a public database to track autism cases as part of the investigation as to what is causing this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean, I think private groups have been doing that for a while. I think that this is just making it a public thing.

Speaker 1:

I've literally had liberals tell me he's making a list of undesirables for later execution in the death camps.

Speaker 3:

Do these people have a one-digit IQ or what?

Speaker 1:

No, no, but they are full-on tds, obviously, but yeah, no, I literally had someone tell me that they're making a list of undesirables, that they're literally nazis, and this is their evidence of it well it's a voluntary database and it's to investigate what is?

Speaker 3:

causing our children to be hurt. Is that a bad thing?

Speaker 1:

What you have, a list of people that are genetically defective. Depending on what you're going to do with it, sure. Exactly, it's all in the purpose for the list but I don't think it's a bad thing to have the list Well, especially if it's something that's increasing and we want to make sure that we're getting a hold of and you know, trying to roll back.

Speaker 3:

Well, the first step in all of this, in my opinion, would be to try and determine if autism is a genetic defect or if it is caused by stress in the early phases of life, Like what is the cause of autism.

Speaker 3:

Because if autism is purely a genetic defect, then it doesn't matter, right, like it's clearly not the fault of parents, drug companies, society, anybody, if it just happens. But if it's something that doesn't happen in locations where you don't have vaccines, like say, the Amish for example, yeah, and let's say the Amish didn't have any autistic kids. They don't, I know, but let's say they didn't.

Speaker 1:

But they don't.

Speaker 3:

Right, but I'm trying to get to make the argument before getting to the conclusion.

Speaker 3:

Okay, uh-huh so, let's say, if the amish didn't have any autistic kids and one of the things that you could correlate not cause aid, but correlate with that is that they don't use vaccines um, that would establish a uh a, not necessarily a causal relationship, but at least a statistical relationship between a group that doesn't do A and doesn't have B. And you can't do that without tracking these cases. So that's why my point is, for all this is I thought this was already being done privately. So if it's just a matter of taking that data and making it public, then it's great. We should be tracking people with diseases of all kinds, not just autism I agree, but we haven't.

Speaker 1:

And I just again, I don't have a problem with the story, I don't have a problem with what they're doing. My entire point in bringing this story up was because of the liberal reaction to it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, it's it. Maybe it's just hitting a little too close to home for the person with the signal digit IQ. I mean stupidity versus autism. Who's to say? It's an interesting thing, because there's a number of things like that that, anecdotally, I really have doubts about. Like, for example, I do tend to think autism is likely caused or triggered by, if not caused by, vaccines, and what makes me think that is that when I was a kid, we had seven vaccines For kids that right now are born, they're getting over 100 vaccines.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well it depends on how you count them Well. I don't know. I read an article, so you tell me but right.

Speaker 1:

They mean like, do you count the mmr vaccine as one or three? Right, and that changes that number significantly um, either way, it's way too many. Nobody used to get these well, and you know, people are vaccinating their kids for hepatitis at birth. Yeah, why Right?

Speaker 3:

And then the other issue is allergies. When I was a kid, you could make fun of the kids that had allergies, because there's only about five of them in the whole school. Now you can make fun of the kids that don't have allergies, because there's only about five of them in the whole school. If that yeah yeah, it is completely flip-flopped. We used to be given peanut butter in elementary school like every fucking day. Nobody had any peanut allergies Nobody. Even the kids that had allergies, they still ate peanut butter because that's what you got.

Speaker 3:

They still ate peanut butter because that's what you got. Uh, so this idea that, purely randomly, for no reason at all, all of a sudden, humans have developed all these weaknesses weakness, you know, mental weaknesses to make them autistic, uh, weaknesses of the immune system to give them allergies when is this shit coming from? Is it sunspots? What is the cause? We can all just sort of chuckle a little bit and point the finger and say, well, it's pretty obvious where the causes are. But I think, even without doing that, it's important that we start looking at if there's something that national health organization should have been doing the whole time they've been around, it's looking at shit like this. Like, you may not call it a pandemic, but the dramatic increase in the number of people that have allergies is caused by something.

Speaker 1:

Well, and that number is supposed to be growing to the point of one in 38 here shortly, yeah, here shortly, yeah. And you know, realistically, let's just say, if for no other reason than how, the fuck are we going to take care of these people?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, these people from an early age are more expensive than people who don't have allergies in the medical system. And when you say one out of 38, what does that mean? One out?

Speaker 1:

of 38 children has it okay.

Speaker 3:

So we're specifically looking at children, because obviously the number of adults is a lot lower than that right, but what they're saying is the incident rate per generation.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah that.

Speaker 3:

That totally makes sense. Yeah, so something is causing that. That's not just randomly happening and it's not happening in other countries. It's happening in some countries, but not all countries. So I think these are all very useful topics to research. This is where grant money should be going, not to, like you know, the, the, the transsexual lifestyles of june bugs or whatever other bullshit things that are getting funded yeah because this does have both a cost component and a quality of life component I mean, you have allergies.

Speaker 3:

You know how bad it could be. I don't have allergies. Well, whatever, you got something, so the point is I do have something. Yeah, you got something up your nose, probably an alien living in there.

Speaker 1:

Hey, what's that in your mouth?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so it's not a good thing. It's a I think we've let things go too long as far as the dye thing that came up with rfk. I think it's interesting. The joke, obviously, is that you know, the man who drinks blue uh paint every morning is uh wanting to ban all the other colors.

Speaker 1:

I didn't hear this. What happened yeah?

Speaker 3:

yeah, well, he's talking about removing a lot of the paints used in food, food dyes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's been a part of his platform for a long time, but is he a methylene blue user? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

He's a big-time methylene blue user. Okay. I didn't know. There's even a photo of him doing a methylene blue drip on Air Force One before Trump got elected and people were all like what is he doing? Why is he dripping something into a glass? And of course it turned out to be methylene blue. So, yeah, he's a big time user of it and methylene blue, we've talked about it in nauseam, we have.

Speaker 3:

But it's first use was as a dye, as a clothing dye, in fact blue jeans yeah so other uses came about after the fact, and I know about it from the fish hobby, where we used it all the time to treat, uh, infections of fish, yeah, yeah, and it works very well at combating those. So I, I don't know, I, I think, um, I think this country's been long overdue for a bath that Trump's giving it. Mm-hmm, I agree and all the cooties out.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I just hope that he can manage the energy and focus and passion and everything else for the entire four-year term, and I'm very worried about what happens two years from now.

Speaker 1:

Oh, at the midterms? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it totally depends. The Democrats are in pretty good disarray, yeah, but there's definitely a lot of backlash and it's going to depend on did this work or not.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, and that's the real risk here, and this is a card that China can play. They don't have to never agree to a tariff agreement. They just have to stall until the midterms, if they can, if they can, if they can yeah, so that's what they have to. Weigh is like this is a non-kinetic war with the United States, and what they could do is, by not agreeing, even at a cost to their own country, dramatically cause the opinion of Americans to sway against Trump because he's caused a recession.

Speaker 1:

Well, but the recession was coming, no matter what. We actually probably need a depression and correction on the stock market.

Speaker 3:

That's definitely not what the messaging is going to be. Yeah, yeah, I understand. Trump created it, Trump owns it.

Speaker 1:

I understand, but let's be real. Yeah, we need a reset and revaluation of where we're at. Oh yeah, it has to happen. I agree A lot of people are going to lose a lot of money when it happens, but you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I think people already started feeling that with the market um, which is kind of rebounded for the most part yeah, I did, but some I I've.

Speaker 3:

I'm down a little fraction of that over the year, but yeah, that's, yeah, that's it now, one of the newsletters I've subscribed to, as jc would call it, is from that um company that tracks all the um, the senators and congress people's investments. Yeah and uh, those are going at a rate of about two percent profit per week. Okay, so all of them, but a good chunk of our politicians are doing a few percent a week, so somewhere in the range of 60 to 70% a year rate of return. Okay.

Speaker 3:

So I'm just saying that if somebody wants to make a higher return, all you got to do is just copy what the politicians are doing yeah, but the problem with that is do you have enough heads up?

Speaker 1:

are they getting in earlier than you? What I mean? Well, that's why you subscribe to this feed, right, but then you've got to go. Are you going to be a day trader now and just sit there and do that?

Speaker 3:

I'm not but I'm saying, if people wanted to, yeah, I'm too lazy for that, I don't have time for that.

Speaker 1:

I've got a day job to do.

Speaker 3:

What if there?

Speaker 1:

was a fund.

Speaker 4:

Sure, if there was a fund that tracked it and I could just invest it. Yeah, why?

Speaker 3:

would not everyone do it? Is that something you would invest in?

Speaker 1:

Yes, duh, who wouldn't Right Exactly? We ought to create one and someone start managing it and put Andrew Horowitz out of business.

Speaker 3:

Oh, what's going on with that? Darren mentioned something about the Horowitz-Adam war.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you should listen to the episode. It's funny.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I haven't listened yet. I'm usually like three to four weeks behind. I don't like I don't know, it's a quirk for me, I think I don't like listening to episodes out of order. Okay. And so I don't usually.

Speaker 1:

You don't skip.

Speaker 3:

I'll like right now if, when we're done, I might start listening to no agenda, but I'll be listening to a month and a half old episode. Just get caught up. You mean, just skip over everything. Yeah, it feels wrong. I can't and I can't intellectually explain why because it is a show that's based on current events.

Speaker 1:

Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3:

But there's something about just skipping shit that feels wrong. Okay.

Speaker 1:

I can't explain it, alright, man. Well, on that note, I think we're good.

Speaker 3:

What do you know about that Horowitz thing? I thought you were going to tell more. No, you've got to go listen to the episode.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's how we're good. Well, what do you know about that? Uh horowitz thing? I was good, I thought you're gonna tell more.

Speaker 3:

No, I don't know you gotta go listen to the episode. Oh, that's how we're gonna play it, okay yeah, all right, fair enough, fair enough all right, ben, I'll see you next week. See you, gene.

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