Speaker 1: 0:25

Howdy Ben? How are you today, gene? I am better than I deserve.

Speaker 2: 0:30

Oh, you keep saying that I want to know about what your deep, dark secret is, that you think you don't deserve anything.

Speaker 1: 0:37

Well, we've talked about plenty on this podcast, but you can leave it to the imagination. If that's what I'm willing to talk about publicly, fair enough. Oh man, what a week, what a week, it's, uh, every week's the week that's what I would say yeah, but you, you saw or you listened to the axios stuff, right? No?

Speaker 2: 1:07

what, I don't know which, what happened?

Speaker 1: 1:11

the joe biden um interrogation tape. Yeah, so when he was given his deposition I didn't even see that next oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So axios got a part of a tape of joe biden's um and what year position it just um the year before the election. So oh wow, yeah, uh, 2023, uh over, remember the. The special prosecutor for documents.

Speaker 1: 1:40

Case for biden and they failed to bring charges because, yeah, you know he was too senile at the time. Yeah, all right. So everyone kind of okay, maybe that's an excuse, maybe that's whatever. Like I had no idea how bad he was. Like, to be honest, if you can play the clip for Maxios and you know listen to it, if we can listen to it while we're doing this and you know comment in real time, I think that would be very worth it.

Speaker 2: 2:15

We can try. I don't have that routing set up on my end I wasn't ready for that, so it may not work for me either here.

Speaker 1: 2:22

I sent it to you in Signal but it's a five-minute thing. But the dude rambles on and on and on confuses dates on when his son died lots of different things.

Speaker 2: 2:33

All right, I'm going to play it. Let's see if you hear it or not.

Speaker 1: 2:36

Okay, you hear anything. No.

Speaker 2: 2:41

Okay, if you don't hear anything, we're probably not going to do it right now, because it's going to mean I have to reconfigfigure the trust me when I say listen to this.

Speaker 1: 2:52

And I I will say I knew joe biden was senile yeah right. We all knew that.

Speaker 1: 2:58

I knew joe biden was in cognitive decline, but to hear such astonishing proof like this is his entire presidency needs to be wiped off the map uh-huh, yeah, no, he was not the president, by any stretch no, but I mean this is utter proof in anything signed with an auto pin, like the case needs to be made, that joe biden was not of sound mind and consciousness no, he was not the one signing shit. Somebody else was signing with his name exactly so like this needs to go to the supreme court pretty fucking quick, dude.

Speaker 1: 3:36

And if it doesn't, we're we're cooked as a country well, you know so, anyway, the interesting thing is and this is I'll get into a little bit of analysis here the interesting thing is that news dropped on Friday. Today, breaking news just came out Joe Biden has cancer and is going to die.

Speaker 2: 4:01

Well, that's too bad.

Speaker 1: 4:03

Well, I mean, it's like we got to kill this dude off. We got to get rid of this memory.

Speaker 2: 4:07

Memory hole. Too much. Yeah how that works.

Speaker 1: 4:14

Yeah, so it's an aggressive form of prostate cancer that's already in his bones. Is the report?

Speaker 2: 4:22

Yeah, it's. The American medical system just sucks. They can't even catch something like that for the president. Yeah, uh-huh, right the guy. He's got a private physician that does nothing but one patient for four years. Yeah, I mean, if it's progressive right now, it had what it had time to develop out of nothing in the last six months dude.

Speaker 1: 4:45

this, this entire story is so messed up in so many ways they don't care.

Speaker 2: 4:52

Did you see the clip from Tim Pool's show with Adam the Idiot?

Speaker 1: 4:59

I only watched part of that, so I have no idea.

Speaker 2: 5:02

You didn't miss anything, I don't think, even if you only watched a part of it. Yeah, quite frankly, I okay uh listening to it last night this guy used to have this show of like adam brood yeah, yep, I'm familiar yeah and uh. Mostly what he ruined was uh uh himself, but um, I don't know. I mean, his answers were either I don't know, because I don't track that, or well, so you don't believe in free speech then, tim, I'm glad you finally told us that you're a Nazi.

Speaker 1: 5:44

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:45

That's generally the only two things that he said. It vacillated between those. Yeah, that's generally the only two things that he said Uh, it's, it's vacillated between those and I don't he. He's in this thing. He keeps calling himself a comedian. I'm like I've never seen a damn thing. That was funny that he did. He, he was coming out into people's shows like Joe Rogan, like he was a serious dude talking about serious issues Apparently not.

Speaker 1: 6:17

Why would he be? Why so serious?

Speaker 2: 6:35

Tim was saying that they got very early into the topic of the extradition of a lot of different people, but in particular they're talking about he was very upset about the removal of the green card student holders. Yeah, I listened to that part, okay. And then you saw that Tim's example was like okay, well, if you believe in free speech, if you think that America is doing something like Nazis did, but the rest of the world, especially good old liberal Europe, doesn't do that, why don't you go and do a joke about Mohammed in Europe and see how that goes?

Speaker 1: 7:05

Yeah, I saw that part and then eventually.

Speaker 2: 7:07

Well, I'm glad you did what do you mean Tim?

Speaker 1: 7:11

What's going on, tim?

Speaker 2: 7:13

I don't find that funny. I don't have any material about Muhammad. I just don't see anything funny about Muhammad whatsoever. I mean, you're a racist, tim, but I don't understand why I would be expected to be making jokes about Muhammad and Tim's like. Well, you know he had sex with young girls, right? This guy's like I don't know, I don't know anything about that. I don't know anything about what you're talking about. I've never heard a damn thing that you keep bringing up. I wouldn't believe it, because it's coming out of Nazi. The bubble they're living in is just it's getting thicker. That's the best way I can describe it.

Speaker 1: 7:53

Well, it's TDS, and I'm going to tie this back Next level TDS. Yeah, I'm going to tie this back, though, to the topic at hand, because I don't want to just gloss over the massive cognitive decline of the president, a foreign president yeah, but everybody knew it, yeah, and everybody fucking said no, it wasn't true no, no, only like a handful of people said that mostly they work in the media.

Speaker 2: 8:23

Everybody else knew he was in the middle there's there's a bunch of like mildly political but younger people that were all seeing it. They were all talking about it's like no old people, fuck them both. Let's get bernie instead.

Speaker 1: 8:38

You know, there's a, there's a thing you want to believe, and then there's reality yeah, so what I was going to say, though, is, if we look at, if we look at the cognitive decline of biden, and the fact that it didn't. The 25th amendment did not work. I'm very fearful of this release, especially from Axios of all places, actually being a plant.

Speaker 1: 9:13

Because, you release stories like this on Friday when you don't want them to be super public. So what I think is going to happen is, anytime Trump makes a misspeech, says something funky, does something weird, the Dems are going to be all over it saying where are you, Vance? Why aren't you?

Speaker 2: 9:32

pulling the 25th Amendment. Why aren't you pulling the?

Speaker 1: 9:34

25th Amendment. But this next level, tds. What I would suggest every listener do is go download the Axios clip and anytime, anytime someone says a word to you about what Donald Trump is doing in his presidency, send them that and say well, at least he's functional yeah yeah, and I'm sure somebody will point back at ronald reagan's like.

Speaker 2: 10:03

Well, you know, the last two years of his presidency, nancy basically ran the white house dude.

Speaker 1: 10:08

I'm on x right now and there's literally a meme that says they leaked the bide her tape. Release the prostate cancer news, dr evil, like it's all you mean, fauci no no, no, no dr evil. You said yes, but I, I'm. I'm meaning in the uh austin powers sense oh, gee sure yes but I'm meaning in the Austin Powers sense Ouchy Sure. Anyway, I have been on way too many airplanes lately. Yeah, I can tell, and it's not going away.

Speaker 2: 10:42

Are you enjoying the airplane food?

Speaker 1: 10:47

I have eaten at way too many United lounges lately. I'll put it that way how are they these days?

Speaker 2: 10:54

I haven't been in one for years.

Speaker 1: 10:58

I mean, it varies so much by airport. Some airports are fantastic, some airports are just junk. Dfw for being a big American hub and everything. I would take the DFW United Club over the Dulles United Club any day.

Speaker 2: 11:21

Over the Dulles one. Yeah, that's true. I would think that American clubs in smaller cities are actually better than the ones in DFWw yeah, right.

Speaker 1: 11:32

But when I'm saying the united club, so american, is in dallas, right, that's where they're headquartered and everything else, so they're in dallas. I fly united in and out of there and um, anyway, the and anyway the United Club in DFW is better than the United Club in Dulles.

Speaker 2: 11:53

Virginia. That's my point, dude, is that the American clubs in cities outside of Dallas are also better. You mean United. No, I mean American. I fly American. I don't fly fucking United, but I okay. So my point is everybody's clubs outside of their hubs are better. The hub clubs usually are worse because there's way too many people using them and the staff gets uppity and the service goes downhill.

Speaker 1: 12:21

I will say the United Clubs in IAH are fantastic, like the Polaris Club there dude, that's fucking awesome, it's awesome. Well, it's the Polaris Club there, dude, that's fucking awesome, it's awesome.

Speaker 2: 12:31

Well, it's the Polaris Club.

Speaker 1: 12:33

Yeah Well, even the United Clubs there are great.

Speaker 2: 12:36

Okay, Alright, and I mean to be fair, like the American Executive Club in Miami was also very nice, but you know it's not just a regular American club, so know it's not it's not just a regular american club. All right, so it's um, I'm I'm just glad that there is a club in austin for american uh, because, uh, some marilines don't even have clubs. Now I actually flew, uh, flew, um what should we call it? Uh, what's the other airline delta?

Speaker 1: 13:16

in new york. Fuck delta and their new baggage policies. Oh yeah, uh, I don't know what those are, but but no guns I. I'll tell you in a second. Continue with your story well.

Speaker 2: 13:29

So delta, which I haven't taken in many years, I I used to fly occasionally. I would fly delta, if you know, if the flights on american weren't, uh, comparable, but generally I would fly american for most things for the last 18 years. I will say that Delta was actually pleasantly surprising. It seemed like all of the staff, all the stewardesses, were significantly younger than what we have in America, like they aged out, think sooner on delta, and so the replacements are all in their 20s and maybe early 30s and on an american, good luck finding somebody younger than 50. They're all in their 50s and 60s so united, united.

Speaker 1: 14:25

I had a couple flights here recently where it was all young 20-something stewardesses. Yeah, and attractive young 20-something stewardesses.

Speaker 2: 14:36

Well, it helps being young.

Speaker 1: 14:38

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2: 14:38

Yeah, that makes sense. So United's also aged out. I mean, they all kind of are cyclical because there's a union. If there was no union, they would need to age out, they would just naturally leave, but because there's a union, they stay there until they retire. Yeah, fuck unions, and that's a problem. For Well, it's not a problem, but it definitely makes the airline worse for the patrons.

Speaker 1: 15:31

Agreed, yeah, agreed. I mean, you don't want to be, uh, on a flight with some old crone who's busting your balls for every little thing.

Speaker 2: 15:40

Well, and that that's the difference, right? Is that the the women that are no longer young and no longer hot, but used to be, because they're stewardesses back when there was a lot more flirting going on in the airlines uh, they're all crotchety. They all just want to bust your balls. Like you said, they all have a bad attitude and their job, as far as their concern, is not to be a stewardess, it is to be a police woman, it's to police things you're not doing the way they want you to be doing them, and make sure that you know about it. That's like uh, sir, uh, your, uh, your foot is sticking out three and three quarters of an inch out from the aisle. You need to move that or I'm gonna have to tell the captain to land the plane yeah, so the new delta baggage policy is very much in that vein oh yeah which I think is interesting, that you're saying they're younger stewardesses.

Speaker 1: 16:39

Um so several traveler blogs have posted recently because you know I read that shit, because I travel too much.

Speaker 2: 16:47

Yeah, yeah and uh.

Speaker 1: 16:49

Anyways, several of them have said recently that hey, um, I am used to. You know, I'm in an early boarding group, I get on, I know, everybody says one bag under the seat in front of you, one bag overhead, but basically what I've always done is just put my bag under the. You know both bags in the overhead because I'm their first bitches which I? I will be honest.

Speaker 1: 17:19

I am one of these dicks like if I'm in boarding group one or two which I'm always in boarding group one or two, yeah, um, both my bags are going in the overhead because, even if I'm in basic economy or economy plus or whatever it is, yeah, I'm tall enough that, motherfucker, I need the goddamn leg room so, and I fly enough that I get this privilege. But uh no, they've literally kicked people off flights recently and on delta because of this really wow, yeah, yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 2: 17:54

Um, yeah, I have not heard that I. I fly always in group one. The problem is there's a group zero and it's annoying as fuck because I'm all lined up, ready to go I was like, all right, we're gonna be recording soon. Uh, all right, we're going to welcome anybody that needs additional time to get to your seat and it's like all these, you know, coach peasants walking in front of me for no good reason. They could take the time after I'm on the plane, not before.

Speaker 1: 18:28

Next. Thing they start announcing if you're in the only flies first class military uh, we welcome you aboard as a thank you for your service.

Speaker 2: 18:36

What service do you not get a salary? You get paid, we all get a salary. So why, why are you getting on before me? That's bullshit. So finally, then they, they say, all right, well, we're gonna go ahead and, uh, before we call group one, we're gonna call our uh, uh, what the hell do they call it on american, our I don't know american, but it's cool, it's global services on people that have spent over 25 000 a year. You can get on. I'm like, okay, oh, it's more than 25 000 these days, but is it.

Speaker 2: 19:07

It used to be 20, oh, so I'm like well, at least that makes sense, I'm okay with that. And then finally, the the guys like me that pay full price for first class. Finally, we're allowed on. That's like I'm in group four, basically, even though it says group one on my ticket.

Speaker 1: 19:25

That's bullshit I'm trying to get to my account so I can tell you what I've spent so far this year, and I'm not even gold on United right now, but it's something like $12,000 or $15,000 so far this year. So, yeah, it is no longer that $20,000.

Speaker 2: 19:46

And I haven't spent anywhere near that for a long time because I have not flown for a client since covet for five years, but before that I was flying quite a bit for clients and so I was getting and you know, my contract is first class only so I was getting not just many miles but I was also qualifying points lots of dollars. Yeah, a lot of times I would actually get there by dollar spend rather than by uh mile spend.

Speaker 2: 20:15

Interesting, so I wouldn't have to do the uh the puddle jumper runs like I used to back in the old days well, unfortunately I don't have that in my contract you can't do that with large company, like large companies will never have a contract that specifies, I guess maybe like a law firm might um, so interestingly enough, with our work with guam one of the things that I made the company right in uh to the contract.

Speaker 1: 20:41

Was any us personnel going to guam business class minimum? That's good, yeah, uh, because my entire point was Is you knew you were going? Yes, there is that, but beyond that there's also just the functionality aspect of it. So here's the economics of it and the way I lined it out in the proposal. Someone flies even economy plus.

Speaker 2: 21:08

They're not sleeping on the plane.

Speaker 1: 21:10

Not well, they're're landing it is a 20 hour flight with a what?

Speaker 2: 21:17

and it's usually not a day off from work. It's usually like well, fly in sunday. We'll have a meeting on monday right, that's my point your own time flying there and you're miserable and you're not getting good night's sleep. I agree, when I was at british telecom they had a policy where any flight over eight hours is going to be business.

Speaker 1: 21:37

Yeah, so anyway, Guam is a 15-hour time difference. So my point and ours goes by level. So for a flight like this, my level of management, I would qualify for a business class ticket anyway, but my team would not. So that's part of my motivation here. So you've got a 20 hour flight that you can't get there direct. You're walking as well and you have a 15 hour time difference.

Speaker 2: 22:04

So my point was you either accept two days of downtime when we're there that you're paying for or you pay for the business class flight which, yeah, you know you kind of wonder like that may be a better approach. Or you just tell people look, you're only flying during business hours. You can't, we don't expect you to get there early. So you know you're gonna leave on monday, you'll get in on tuesday night or whatever. Or you know you'll get it on tuesday but you're not going to need to actually be at the client side until wednesday. Yeah, and you're flying back wednesday right after that to be home on friday. Yeah that's.

Speaker 1: 22:41

That's. No one's going to send anyone anywhere for that I know. I will say this one of the most fucked up things I've seen in a contract lately is uh with another u U S territory. That may or may not be a trash Island, but that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 2: 22:57

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 22:58

The kill Tony joke. If anyone gets a reference, yeah. But you know, no weekend expenses are allowed.

Speaker 2: 23:06

No weekend, so you have to fly out. Wait, so that means you don't fly weekends. You just only wait till Monday to fly out. Wait, so that means you don't fly weekends.

Speaker 1: 23:12

Then you just only wait until Monday to fly out. Yeah, and then you fly out Friday because you can't expense anything on Saturday, exactly. That seems like a stupid policy because, right, because, if I'm going down there, I'm staying for a couple of weeks. I'm going to enjoy my time on the weekend, sure, but you know what? It's cheaper than flying me back and forth.

Speaker 2: 23:30

So let me tell you what I did. I didn't do this often, but I did it often enough when I was working in New York. When I was young, I was flying there.

Speaker 2: 23:45

Monday through Friday, and I would usually leave Sunday night because I would prefer to just get a good night's sleep anyway rather than coming into the office. Leaving on a 7 am flight, to be there by 10 am prefer to just get a good night's sleep anyway rather than coming into the office at you know, leaving on a 7 am flight, to be there by 10 am, like that, to me is stupid. So I'd rather just fly out sunday night and then just stay at a hotel next day.

Speaker 2: 24:03

But yeah, what I started doing when I was flying back and forth literally every week. I was only home on weekends. What I realized is it doesn't really matter where I fly back to on Friday or where I fly from on Monday or Sunday. So I started flying from New York to Miami for the weekends and of course I was still doing the mileage calculations in my head. So the way I would do it is I would actually fly, I would get a ticket from new york to miami but you can imagine there's some direct flights there but I would take that ticket and then fly through o'hare, through houston and then to miami oh fuck, that's a brutal day it's a brutal day of getting miles that I need to get.

Speaker 2: 24:54

Brutal day. It's a brutal day of getting miles that I need to get and when you're in your 20s. That's called an adventure that that's like you know flirting at the airport. That's drinking back in the day, when I'm drinking the entire way, drinking the uh, the free booze in every club along the way it's like three clubs you're gonna stop at to have free drinks at back. Then it used to be. You know totally. Everything was so free shit, dude. A lifetime membership was five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1: 25:20

I am kicking myself for not doing that I, I would do that in a heartbeat if it was obviously, but this is, you know, granted.

Speaker 2: 25:30

It's like in money translation back from the 90s it'd probably be more like twelve thousand dollars, but still it was super cheap compared to what it is right now. If they even do lifetime, I think some places stopped but, uh well, I don't know of any clubs that do lifetime memberships? Really not anymore what I used to do. Maybe this is why they don't do it. What I used to do is uh, occasionally I would just uh have a bit. This is all pre-9-11, right? So?

Speaker 1: 25:59

yeah, when security was at the gate. I would.

Speaker 2: 26:02

I would just have uh like drinks after dinner, meet up with folks at the airport at the club where the booze is being free and it's it's like by 7, 8 pm there's fewer flights coming in, there's not a whole lot of people. I got the bar all to myself, getting boozed up and eating snacks and whatnot, and talking to somebody whether it's a cheap date or whether it's uh somebody in from out of town that just wanted out. I'm like, yeah, we'll do it for free, and then you can claim your per diem and keep that yourself. I used to be creative with how to get money from companies back in the day. These days I'm on the other side of that, of course.

Speaker 1: 26:47

Yeah, I don't. All the abuse, damn it. Yeah, I don't. Uh, I I don't drink as much as I used to when I was traveling I don't drink at all anymore and I I remember one of the flights into utah because I was on my way to inl uh. So I was going from houston to salt lake city, then salt lake city to idaho falls and I was in the back because it was a last minute flight and I got a shitty seat and I'm sitting next to this dude who's obviously about to go on his first mission and it's like an 8 30 am flight.

Speaker 1: 27:27

Oh wow, you know it's an early, it's an early enough flight and uh, I'm just sitting there just like, fuck my life, I hate this. Why am I in the back of the bus doing this and all that? Anyway, the stewardess comes by and I'm like, yeah, can I get uh two bourbons and uh, you know whatever seltzer water or whatever. And he just kind of looks at me like this and I'm like, dude, it's too early for your nonsense. Change seats if you want. I'm going to be drinking and sleeping right now. That's what I'm doing, of course.

Speaker 2: 28:00

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:01

Which, by the way, the best thing to do on a long international leg if you can Like the best international flight I have had as far as recovery time was coming back from Dubai on Emirates business class.

Speaker 2: 28:17

Yeah, the best thing you can do is take Emirates business class If you want to have a good flight back. There's your advice right there.

Speaker 1: 28:23

I've flown Singapore business. I've flown Qatari business.

Speaker 2: 28:28

I've flown lots of business classes.

Speaker 1: 28:28

I've flown all the best businesses I have pretty much until Riyadh gets their airline businesses I I have pretty much until riyad gets there, like going. I can pretty much say that but, what I would say is the strategy was it was, uh, 18 and a half hour flight, yeah, and. But the strategy was I got in, I ate a little something and I started drinking and I slept and that's all I did for the entire flight is.

Speaker 2: 28:51

I slept as much as possible. And then I was fine. I used to stay up the night before a flight for the same reason. You essentially could be worn out so that after about half an hour, maybe 20 minutes on the airplane, I would start dozing off. Naturally, and it happened pretty normally, I mean probably, I'd say, starting with my fifth or sixth flight I just completely was relaxed and was able to sleep on the airplane.

Speaker 1: 29:23

And you know, everything was good I don't care what time of day it is at this point, domestic or otherwise I don't care if it's a 50 minute flight, I'm taking it you can sleep.

Speaker 2: 29:35

My problem right now is I snore and I, and so I'm I'm sort of self-conscious of, you know, the person sitting next to me all of a sudden hearing you know next to him. That would be annoying. I don't want that. So I I try to be in that. What do you call that? The zone where you're like half asleep, where you're kind of losing. You're going in and out of sleep every few minutes but you you're still picking up a word here and there, like when they're coming by with the drinks. You know, know, you kind of hear that and you're like, yeah, I'll have the Bloody Mary mix, and then but yeah, it's gotten bad. I don't drink booze on the plane, so I'm not getting my money's worth. Last flight I took, I didn't even eat on the plane, so all I paid for was an expensive transport.

Speaker 1: 30:28

Yeah. So let me ask you something Aisle or window?

Speaker 2: 30:34

oh, I, I'm a very strategic about this. If there's something worth seeing, like the flying in over manhattan or flying back to austin on the fourth of july during fireworks, then I'll have a seat. Otherwise it's going to be, uh, the aisle, so I can get out of there quicker yeah, my, my entire tactic is as far forward as I can be oh, I'm usually in one a and and an aisle or c.

Speaker 1: 30:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah, one a or one. So while we're talking, this week in travel, uh since we're not since we're not doing our normal shtick and I tried to open with biden and his retardation yeah um. Did you see the brooklyn bridge boat accident?

Speaker 2: 31:18

uh, I saw a picture, but I didn't read anything about it so this mexican sailing vessel, yeah was embarking and I don't know if it's on purpose or not.

Speaker 1: 31:30

it kind of looks like they were getting blown backwards and it was a total accident that they hit. But several sailors died, others very seriously injured, boat damaged Like whoopsie.

Speaker 2: 31:49

Yeah, that sucks, man. I mean, boating accidents are, on the one hand, more common than people think. I mean, you've seen the video right? I haven't seen the video of this one. I've seen other videos, like I've seen the barge in Ohio and yeah, look at this one. You know, if you're going to send me links to shit, you should do it before the show so I can look at them rather than saying, oh, you saw this right well, I didn't see it.

Speaker 1: 32:14

We haven't talked, we didn't even confirm today's time you were I can play video games and I stream.

Speaker 2: 32:20

No, I haven't seen the news well, okay, my, I'm not like one of you people that's not busy at all. Busy at all. Oh, I wish I could show you my time sheet for the last few weeks. Yeah, I'll show you mine, dude. I guarantee you I had more time playing video games. I'm sure you did, and you know, just because it's called playing doesn't mean it's not work, okay anyway, bad accidents not good.

Speaker 2: 32:51

Yeah, yeah, it's pretty fucked up uh, have you seen the videos ever of the? Uh huge um ships transports bringing shit over from china, going through rough seas?

Speaker 1: 33:06

uh, yeah, waves are like 100 feet tall. Yeah, going over, going over them.

Speaker 2: 33:10

Oh my God, it's insane. And they're like, yeah, we'll usually lose two or three of the containers, but that's what insurance is for. Well not for the people that order shit that's on there.

Speaker 1: 33:21

Not for the people who are shipping their personal goods over on there. Yeah, that's not.

Speaker 2: 33:27

no, nope should use an airplane for that. Clearly Should not be using things like that. Nope should use an airplane for that. Clearly Should not be using things like that. Mm-hmm, so yeah, I don't know. Man, it's been an interesting week. I've mostly gotten my news off of, uh, youtube. As usual. There may be things that that, and then your mom, she sends me news.

Speaker 1: 34:01

Oh, that sounds like a bad joke.

Speaker 2: 34:05

Uh, yeah, yeah, If you, if you've seen enough movies from the nineties, it is a bad joke.

Speaker 1: 34:11

Yeah, she is freaked out about me going to max.

Speaker 2: 34:14

I know she and I talked about this for quite a while. I was very reassuring to her yeah, I even sent her photos of your hotel room. Like how'd you get those? It's like I got people check everything out, don't worry uh-huh, uh-huh yeah, he's in good hands.

Speaker 2: 34:31

There'll be folks right around him the whole time. It's actually a very touristy, which could be good or bad, but since you're going with a family, that's probably a good thing. But it's a very touristy area. It's across from a huge tourist mall where everybody speaks English and the prices are likewise made for tourists. Decent food, though Obviously all the seafood is very good out there. I highly recommend.

Speaker 1: 35:02

Okay.

Speaker 2: 35:03

So yeah, I don't know it's, I think you will enjoy it. Don't step on the turtles they're laying eggs out there. Don't step on the baby eggs because they're on the beach hatching. Yeah, and they're protected. Yeah, which I figured. They used to use them for omelets, but I guess not anymore. The water's nice, it's clean in the gulf of america.

Speaker 1: 35:34

Well, you heard about mexico sitting google over that I know whatever, what, whatever guys.

Speaker 2: 35:41

I told them uh, I told them I. I tweeted back. It's like yeah, yeah, keep, keep doing that. We'll see if uh City becomes America City next we're going to take one Mexico off the map at a time until there is no more Mexicos left.

Speaker 1: 36:00

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2: 36:00

We have the power because Trump can sign an executive order to compel an American company to do that but sure An. American company? Yes, Well, that's the only companies that matter's. What maps do you think that everybody else uses? Hence why uh mexico's suing uh, well, how about they go get their own ponce leone map and then use that instead?

Speaker 1: 36:28

maybe they can find them oh, I will say, you know people like my dad, it still bugs him. It's like it's been the gulf of mexico my entire life and what doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 2: 36:40

that's, that's exactly my response. You know it didn't used to be the Gulf of Mexico. It used to be the Sea of something else, as they used to call it.

Speaker 1: 36:52

What no, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 36:53

Before they named it the Gulf of Mexico, it was the Sea of something. I can't remember the guy's name. It was one of the early explorers. Mexico's a country. It's actually a made-up country. It's not a real country.

Speaker 1: 37:08

How is it a made-up country.

Speaker 2: 37:10

Well, they made it up.

Speaker 1: 37:11

I mean Sea of the Cortez.

Speaker 2: 37:15

Don't look at old maps, you won't find Mexico. Yeah, so Cortez called it Sea of the. North or Mar del Norte oh my god, I hope you your accent is better than that if you've been studying for six months first of all, I'm very tired.

Speaker 1: 37:33

We're recording this late and I'm not trying right now now is it Elmar or Lamar? Mar El Elmar Now is it El Mar or La Mar Mar, el El Mar, el Mar.

Speaker 2: 37:50

First of all, you're rolling an R.

Speaker 1: 37:50

That isn't a different word El Mar del Norte, el Mar del Norte we speak Mexican with a particular accent.

Speaker 2: 37:55

¿por qué tú no hablas español?

Speaker 1: 37:56

bien, yo hablo español más o menos bien. Necesito más práctica, pero más o menos bien. No-transcript I speak Spanish, I enough because I'm tired god damn, it all right, good enough all right, like I said, I haven't slept a whole lot, but you know what.

Speaker 2: 38:24

I'm glad they gave you an easy language to learn in virginia. That's all right. So dude.

Speaker 1: 38:30

First of all, I don't just speak spanish, thank you okay I speak english, I speak spanish I well, you speak southern english, but yeah I have a ton of Latin.

Speaker 2: 38:42

Yeah, that's so useful. So, speaking of the Latin Pope, who's American? Yeah, woo, chicago.

Speaker 1: 38:50

Chicago.

Speaker 2: 38:52

Yeah, yeah, so how you know? It's interesting because I keep hearing these. First of all, nobody liked the last Pope while he was alive. Nobody I knew that liked them. Sure, Like actual Catholics. But now there's all these stories, these conspiracy theories going around about how he had written this treatise on exposing all the the child pedophiles in the church and he was going to publish it and he was going to give a copy to our VP and they killed him before he could do that. Now I like a good conspiracy every now and then, but to me that just sounds like grasping at straws that don't exist, Like no, no, they all, they all boys.

Speaker 2: 39:45

That's the more realistic answer to this catholic. Uh, long term, like not some you know far off part-time priest somewhere, but like all these career Catholic priests I just we've had this conversation, I think, before. I think that it is a. It is the natural outcome of a repression that starts when they're young, and I think my recommendation was, if you let them have a rumspringer for like five years where they can get married, have kids, then they have to get divorced to become a priest. First of all, the priests would be a lot more dedicated. Secondly, I think they would probably not become pedophiles. I think I'm not saying this is a causality, but I'm pretty sure that if you look at the stats, you will find that most pedophiles don't have children.

Speaker 1: 40:51

I would say that I can almost guarantee you that no one, with no one who has children, could be a pedophile.

Speaker 2: 40:56

Well, I'm sure there are exceptions. I would be shocked.

Speaker 1: 41:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because as soon as you like like you would have to be so fucked up in the head to have a kid and not have the transitional property to say there are people who kill other people too sure you know there are different pathologies there, but my point is, statistically that's the case.

Speaker 2: 41:22

So and so you have this whole class of priests that have effectively been barred from participating in the most natural act on Earth that literally every animal does on the planet, every insect, every fish. Everybody does this, except for Catholic priests, and so I think the likelihood of them essentially creating kinks for themselves is much higher because of that. It's like if you listen to serial killer interviews from prison, most of them will tell you that their first murder was somebody that either did or reminded them of somebody that was a bitch to them, them of somebody that was a bitch to them. It's, it's a response. It's not like gee, I always wondered, I was curious, what would it be like to kill somebody?

Speaker 2: 42:34

and don't be clipping this shit out of context but, but uh, usually their first one is more like I just got fed up, I couldn't stand it anymore. These women at my job were just total bitches. They were making fun of my height, they were making fun of my whatever, and so they take it out on somebody that reminds them of that person. And then the part where they become serial is that they got away with it and they realize that, a it's not that hard and, b that that was probably the biggest adrenaline rush they've ever had in their entire life, and their life has been pretty miserable, it's been pretty sad, and so they want to keep repeating the adrenaline rush. It's not that they want to keep killing. They want to get the feeling that they get when they kill somebody.

Speaker 2: 43:38

Okay, and then we can. I mean, if we're done with that topic, we switched to the topic you brought up. So, and then we can uh, I mean, if we're done with that topic, we switched the topic you brought up, which was, um, pedophilia, now considered a um a choice?

Speaker 1: 43:49

Yeah Well, no, not a choice a sexual uh orientation?

Speaker 2: 43:53

Yes, isn't that? Aren't those a choice?

Speaker 1: 43:57

Um, it depends on how you see it, but anyway, uh, there were several, you know, uh, different um what, what's that? Um, eggs, no, but with ted talks that were presenting this at recently. As you know, this is just a sexual orientation and you can't be blamed for your sexual orientation. No, why would you be blamed for that? You know, yeah, and and what? It's a stupid bad take so is it?

Speaker 2: 44:36

is it actually just a back words, creative way to point out that the whole concept of a sexual orientation is a mental disease? Um, no, I think that would be my takeaway I think these people are being genuine well, genuine is in thinking that more people ought to be pedophiles uh, that we, that society, should be more accepting that society shouldn't repress pedophilia because it's, it's totally natural correct.

Speaker 2: 45:07

I mean, I guess in the british royal family kind of it is, but I don't know if it is a particularly healthy thing, and that's usually things that end up being considered unclean or sins are things that are not healthy. Yes, right, like pork. That was a joke, that was a. Uh. Yeah, you're supposed to laugh at that okay, says the man who likes shellfish I like dude.

Speaker 2: 45:40

Your mom sent me something about pork and I was like damn it, I'm gonna have to fry me some up. So I sent her a picture of uh bacon. I cooked.

Speaker 1: 45:47

There you go now anyway, did you see the uh james o'keefe video? I just sent you because I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 2: 45:56

But that alex is no ben. I have not seen the video, you just know.

Speaker 1: 46:01

Well, I don't know if you're actually paying attention or not. The answer is obviously no.

Speaker 2: 46:07

I will say James O'Keefe has been disappointing people recently. Okay, because he's doing the thing that our Department of Justice did, which is like we've got boxes and boxes of things here to show you photos of people from the internet looking at, and then it turns out there's nothing there, and that's kind of what people have been saying is that you know ever since. But look, I like O'Keefe, I like the fact that he didn't let other people kick him out of his own company. But I will also say he clearly has narcissistic tendencies and I think some of the things that he does, he does mainly for the reason of recognition and not for the good of something coming out of it.

Speaker 1: 47:04

Okay, okay. So I'm not going to argue that. No, no, I'm just saying, but I think that there is plenty of good that is coming out of the.

Speaker 2: 47:13

O'Keefe Media Group and has come out of other stuff, so I mean, I don't think there's been nearly as much as there was back in his old company.

Speaker 1: 47:27

In Project Veritas yeah.

Speaker 2: 47:30

I don't know. I just I think he was hungry back then. I think he's making good money now.

Speaker 1: 47:37

Yeah, but he's also not the one capable of getting the videos anymore.

Speaker 2: 47:41

Yes, yes, also not the one capable of getting the videos anymore. Yes, yes, although there are plenty of meme videos of literally james with a bad trump wig. Out on a date with some dude it's always guys for some reason too but out on a date with some guy and the guy's totally spilling the beans to him. It's like have you never seen somebody who's like six foot seven and looks like he is a uh, a, uh uh, what do you call it? Uh he, just he looks like a guy who performs in in uh musical theater.

Speaker 1: 48:24

Okay, I don't know where you're going with this.

Speaker 2: 48:29

I'm just saying he looks a little.

Speaker 1: 48:31

Light in the loafers A little theory.

Speaker 2: 48:35

He's not the guy working on your car. Let's put it that way. Sure, yeah, he's the guy checking out your back end while you're working on your car and you're the dude, but whatever I mean, look, gay guys can bring plenty of good things to society. Nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying that he's always kind of struck me as being a theater kid okay, I so.

Speaker 1: 49:05

What's wrong with theater kids?

Speaker 2: 49:07

well, they're a little theatery, aren't they?

Speaker 1: 49:10

I really don't know what you mean by that, oh, you know exactly what I mean, like I did theater in high school, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I I first of all, I started with the Fall of Spot and doing that. Then I got talked into playing Felix on for just Felix, and what was it? The Odd Couple.

Speaker 2: 49:36

Yeah, yeah, felix Unger, and what's the other guy?

Speaker 1: 49:42

I forgot the other guy's name. I was the preppy one. Yeah, you were the gay one.

Speaker 2: 49:46

Not the gay. I mean, everybody knows Felix was gay. Come on, it's not a surprise. They couldn't say it back in the 60s, obviously, but that was the implication. He was the one that kept the place clean.

Speaker 1: 49:59

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2: 50:00

Mm-hmm. Yeah, they had a parasocial relationship so what do you think?

Speaker 1: 50:07

uh, did you see trump's announcements? Uh, here over the weekend that he thinks we'll see a ukrainian peace deal monday?

Speaker 2: 50:14

no, no, I didn't see it and no, I don't think we will.

Speaker 1: 50:21

Okay.

Speaker 2: 50:23

I think Ukraine is getting harder and harder to do a peace deal for Because it is collapsing.

Speaker 1: 50:35

Agreed, which may make the country desperate enough to kick Zelensky out to the point where they can do it.

Speaker 2: 50:41

Like that would be a good trigger, I think. But right now for putin it's kind of like I'm. I'm basically on the gates of berlin in world war ii and you're saying, okay, okay, okay, let's do a deal. And uh, you give us back what was ours, um, and then, uh, we'll just call it even no guys, I'm gonna walk into berlin.

Speaker 2: 51:06

There's no like. I'm right there. Do you not see me waving right there? You can see me right from the city. So I think the incentive is not there. They should have done this two years ago. They probably would have gotten the peace deal well I?

Speaker 1: 51:21

I think, had Trump been reelected, there never would have been an issue. It wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 2: 51:26

Because what would have happened is Putin would have basically said look, we're getting fucked here by all these Europeans lying nonstop, and I'm sorry, but we're going to have to react and you'll get sucked into it. You won't like it. The whole NATO thing is bullshit. You know the backstory on all this stuff. I'm just giving you a fair warning that if this doesn't change in the next six months, we're going to have to react and Trump would have figured out a way to wrangle the Europeans. Russia didn't need to go there if Ukraine wasn't shelling the Russians that lived in Ukraine. Agreed.

Speaker 1: 52:08

It's not hard. So are there any topics that you have paid attention to this week that you want to talk?

Speaker 2: 52:14

about. I mean, let me think what has been interesting here. I really haven't been paying attention to much politics. I'll tell you that. Okay, I mean I don't. We don't have to talk about politics. You know, we used to talk about guns and food and other things before.

Speaker 1: 52:35

Well, uh, it's just been politics, non-stop well, it's been one of those you know bits, but one of the things that me, uh, photos of of like steaks and shit you cooked back in the day.

Speaker 1: 52:47

Yeah, yeah, oh, I haven't cooked a steak in a while because I've been traveling so much. But one of the things I will say is I'm very proud of a few republican congressmen for holding up the big, beautiful bill for the hush act and the short, uh, short guns bill. Which is what, uh? So the hush act is suppressors from the nfa and the short guns bill is removing short barreled rifles from got it, got it and what does that leave?

Speaker 1: 53:20

just machine guns pretty much in any other weapon, which any other weapon is kind of a tricky one yeah, because if you put a vertical uh grip on a pistol it becomes any other any other weapon. Um, they also, you know, destructive devices would still be on there, stuff like that.

Speaker 2: 53:37

So what if I put like a dildo on the bottom of a gun? Does that make it any other weapon or is that still a pistol?

Speaker 1: 53:46

I mean, what we have now is people who are using, you know, mag holders for a grip, stuff like that. You know, there's lots of things like that.

Speaker 2: 53:58

There's workarounds. People will always come up with a workaround if it's possible.

Speaker 1: 54:01

The forced reset trigger is a perfect example of this. The FRT is a great example of fuck you government.

Speaker 2: 54:10

I need to get that installed. I got one, I just need to get it installed. What do you mean get?

Speaker 1: 54:14

it installed. What are you installing?

Speaker 2: 54:15

on One of my guns.

Speaker 1: 54:16

Which gun.

Speaker 2: 54:17

I don't know yet. I'm picking one. I got a lot of ARs Okay, I'll pick one. I got a lot of ARs Okay, and I got that. And I also have the binary.

Speaker 1: 54:27

Okay, but why do you need to have it installed?

Speaker 2: 54:31

Because it's sitting in a box on my desk and I need to get it installed.

Speaker 1: 54:35

Right, but getting it installed sounds to me like you're going to have someone else do it. Yeah, you. Is that not obvious from my tone?

Speaker 2: 54:48

uh-huh why do you think I invited you to town? Uh-huh which by the way, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to make it at this point but I'm I'm registered, but I'm gonna try luckily, the registration isn't gonna cost you any if you don't exactly, but yeah it's.

Speaker 2: 55:01

And look we, we've been talking about doing a get together for like a year, uh-huh, uh, I'm almost out of rabbits, so my at the very least, my rabbit drive will happen soon. Um, but when you're, we need to just sit down, figure out some times, because I'm going to be traveling, you're going to be traveling, you know, I'm going to also, theoretically, mexico, so we might not see each other there, but we'll be close, um, but it's um, we still got to get together, like in texas at some point.

Speaker 2: 55:36

I think the last time we got together was at the houston meetup the houston meetup.

Speaker 1: 55:40

Yeah, we need to have a meetup of our own and realistically, we both should be going.

Speaker 2: 55:46

Uh, this, we should have gone to the fredericksburg meetup, but yeah there's too much other stuff going on, so I mean it's, it's probably about the same distance for both of us oh, it's way shorter for you.

Speaker 1: 55:58

Are you kidding?

Speaker 2: 55:58

me. You know, I drive slower.

Speaker 1: 56:05

Same distance for both of us, please don't you know?

Speaker 2: 56:07

distance depends on the speed uh no of light.

Speaker 1: 56:12

Yes, it's a, einstein proved it uh-huh, uh-huh, no, uh, that that's not what he proved at all okay, totally, totally.

Speaker 2: 56:20

it's right there. I've seen the video. Yeah, as you drive faster, time slows down.

Speaker 1: 56:29

Correct Time dilates, but that does nothing to change the distance.

Speaker 2: 56:33

Well it does, because from an observer standing on the third point of view, it looks like you're actually moving longer range in that same amount of time.

Speaker 1: 56:46

No, you've got that backwards. To an outside observer, there is no difference and there is no time dilation. It is to the person in the craft traveling at this near speed of light that there's the time dilation.

Speaker 2: 56:58

It all depends on your perspective. They're both the same thing. It all depends on your perspective. They're both the same thing. It's just. If you have two different people observing one event, it's not that one of them is wrong and one of them is right. It's that each one has a different perspective on it. Okay, just saying Okay.

Speaker 1: 57:20

We can argue about how general relativity works.

Speaker 2: 57:28

Sure, it's been a while, but I'm sure I can get back on the topic. Yeah, I'm taking multiple classes on that topic.

Speaker 1: 57:41

Me too, just a few.

Speaker 2: 57:46

Because it was one of the few fun things to do, Agreed. Actually, it's like okay, let's talk without it being science fiction, let's talk about shit that sounds like science fiction and then explain how it works. You know, the latest thing I saw is that apparently now there's a push to say that black holes don't actually exist.

Speaker 2: 58:14

Okay, they have mathematically shown that they don't exist well, I mean, we're starting from a place of saying that they mathematically do exist and that we don't know uh you know that we haven't observed them, so yeah, and we've we've certainly had some observational things that would agree with the fact that that looks like a wormhole but it's not like you can fly out and check one out.

Speaker 1: 58:40

First of all, let's use terms uh, wormhole, but it's not like you can fly out and check one out.

Speaker 2: 58:43

First of all, let's use terms uh, wormhole very messy term, sorry, not wormhole I am going on the four hours of sleep yeah, eisenberg, einstein, rosenberg, bridge, but anyway, and a black hole is not a wormhole, no, no no, I I meant the black hole, but it's an interesting idea that it could be that the interior of what we look at black holes is actually like a tortoise. No, you're on the inside and the outside. That's really not how that works but that's what I'm saying is they're now mathematically showing that that looks like the right solution.

Speaker 1: 59:30

Okay, well I send me what you've been reading.

Speaker 2: 59:34

I look forward to reading it usually complain when I send you too many videos per day. You're like dude. I can't watch eight hours of videos a day and do my job I, I can't like, I don't watch, I don't watch I'm actually surprised my mom doesn't just recommend all the videos I watch to you anyway, because they do that probably does.

Speaker 1: 59:53

I don't look at the recommended stream hardly ever okay.

Speaker 2: 59:56

Yeah, because that's what most people find is that once google figures out that you're friends all the shit that you like or that you watched all the way through and didn't just stop it after two minutes that will pop up on all your friends recommended list, which is brilliant. That totally makes sense, because it gives you something to talk about but.

Speaker 2: 1:00:17

I remember people starting it's like dude, why am I getting a whole bunch of tiger and bear videos all of a sudden? What the hell? Well, it's like well I, because I'm watching those so have you spent much time watching youtube lately. I mean I'm I'm streaming usually like three hours a day and then I'm watching usually about 12 okay, did.

Speaker 1: 1:00:41

Did you see the Military Arms Channel video Mm-hmm On Sig Yep that you did at Sig? What's your thoughts?

Speaker 2: 1:00:57

You know, I'm not a Sig fanboy. You know that.

Speaker 1: 1:01:00

And you know that I like.

Speaker 2: 1:01:02

Sig, and I do know that you like sig, but I also think that the internet loves to be black and white, right, um. So I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's tons of sigs that malfunction, but there's also a hugely greater number of people that have never had an issue, even though they did the exact same thing to the ones that malfunctioned yeah, I think the hey, it could be the holsters issue is a legit thing the.

Speaker 2: 1:01:39

The uh problem is between the uh the left ear and the right ear. Yeah, that happens a lot, um, I but. But it's still to some extent it somewhat doesn't matter, because if other brands glock, don't do that, don't have the same issues, then does it really matter? Why is it? Is it simply the fact that people who buy sigs aren't very good at firearms? Is that you think that's it?

Speaker 1: 1:02:11

well, considering most of them got sold to the police and military okay well, that's a true statement, then, right there um, actually uh actually. Yes, I think this is a completely, completely realistic sort of thing.

Speaker 2: 1:02:26

Yes, I really wish that there was a way to to limit gun sales. Here's a gun bill. I would be for. Limit gun sales to only enthusiasts. If you don't like guns, if you're not into firearms, uh, you don't get to buy one yeah so did.

Speaker 1: 1:02:49

Did you see the trade deals that trump pulled off while he was in qatar?

Speaker 2: 1:02:54

I saw the highlights, but not the full deals. Did you okay?

Speaker 1: 1:02:58

I. I looked into some of the full deals, so everybody's giving him crap about the Qatari airplane, right? I would still take that. Why would you not take that? Well, here's what you got to realize. So part of the issue is we have two count them two Air Force Ones, right? Actually, any plane that the president's on is Air Force One.

Speaker 2: 1:03:18

They're old man, they're seriously old, they are, they're 747 generation 200.

Speaker 1: 1:03:23

Yeah, so what the sod or the uh qataris are offering him is a 747 800. Oh yeah, the newest 747 is a 900 class. Boeing has delayed and delayed and delayed as usual, yeah, and they can't. Boeing can't build another 747. They've lost the tooling, it's over, yeah, so what?

Speaker 2: 1:03:43

do you do tooling? Aka, they're old engineers.

Speaker 1: 1:03:46

Yes, yeah, yeah, but here. So what do you do? These airframes are aging, they can't keep flying forever. No, so you know, people are like he can't fly on that plane. It'd be a security risk. It'd be this idea every time air force one flies. Both planes fly. Yeah, one is a decoy, one is the real one yeah, every time so meanwhile trump's flying on.

Speaker 2: 1:04:12

Trump force one just fool everybody and yeah, okay, fine, whatever.

Speaker 1: 1:04:15

But the point is, what this gives you is you give that plane a paint job. You don't have to do basically anything else to it other than verify there's no transmitting devices. That would be giving away that it's the decoy. And then you take the second airframe that is in bad need of maintenance. But since they both fly every time, you take it and you put it in the shop and you retrofit it right and once it's retrofitted, yeah, then you take the other old air force one out and you put it in the shop and retrofit it right, and once it's retrofitted, then you take the other old Air Force One out and you put it in the shop and retrofit it and then you fly both of them and you give it back to the Qataris or go look how smart I was and I'm putting it in my presidential library.

Speaker 1: 1:04:53

Fuck you.

Speaker 2: 1:04:54

Now. I think, that all makes sense, which, by the way?

Speaker 1: 1:04:56

Reagan's Air Force. One is in his presidential library.

Speaker 2: 1:05:00

Oh, I didn't know that. Now I have a reason to go, that's cool.

Speaker 1: 1:05:05

So this is not unprecedented. Everything they're saying is just bullshit yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:05:11

I've flown the 747-204.

Speaker 1: 1:05:14

I have not yet. That's one thing I want to do.

Speaker 2: 1:05:17

Yeah, I flew on one of those in 1979 where the upstairs was a smoking lounge Very cool For smoking and of course you could still smoke in your seat as well. But you know, up there you can flirt with the stewardesses and drink alcohol and smoke like a chimney.

Speaker 1: 1:05:40

Yeah, like a chimney. Yeah, so between saudi arabia, qatar and the uae. First of all, he got qatar to order from boeing the largest single passenger jet order ever. Yeah, yeah, which holy fuck. But beyond that, he basically got about two trillion dollars worth of investment in US goods and weapons.

Speaker 2: 1:06:07

Which they're all happy to do, because they just don't want to be warred on.

Speaker 1: 1:06:11

Well, it's not just that, it's really sending a message to Iran. You know, hey, we just cut you off from China. You don't have the contiguous border you think you have with allied states here.

Speaker 2: 1:06:29

so but also remember the arabs are not the persians. They agreed. Historically hated each other, agreed, agreed. So it's the arabs were bedouins.

Speaker 2: 1:06:43

The persians had an empire right, but my point is iran cannot look for uh support from saudi arabia or yeah yeah, anyone else yeah, and then, like, here's the thing that I think would be the biggest gift that saudi arabia could give trump would be to create the country of palestine inside of saudi arabia. They have so much sand there that nobody's living on at all. I mean, make like, give them all jobs building the 100-mile city. It's like they could literally move that whole little you know pretend country into Saudi Arabia and assimilate them. And Trump would have like if he wouldn't get two Nobel Peace Prizes then I'd say he'd be robbed.

Speaker 1: 1:07:46

Yeah, I just don't think that's going to happen, but we'll see.

Speaker 2: 1:07:51

I don't either. I'm not saying it will. I'm just saying like, of all the countries that are capable of doing it with the least amount of disruption to their own population, saudi Arabia is probably the one.

Speaker 1: 1:08:08

Okay, I haven't paid attention to this as a thought, but cool.

Speaker 2: 1:08:18

I guess that's the kind of videos I've been watching more of. I guess that's the kind of videos I've been watching more of Alright man, and then we can finally have the Trump Tower on the beach.

Speaker 1: 1:08:31

Oh, in Palestine, In Israel? Yeah Well, we'll see what ends up happening, but he seems to be on the outs with Netanyahu. He seems to be holding Netanyahu back. Well, netanyahu, what ends up happening? But he seems to be on the outs with Netanyahu. He seems to be holding Netanyahu back.

Speaker 2: 1:08:46

Well, netanyahu's a little bitch. I mean, let's face it, he is acting a few pig rays above his grade. Sure you don't want to use zelensky as a copy, right? That's not who you want to sell yourself over. And uh, I, unfortunately I think he's, he's been playing that card a little too much. Um, I, I do think israel I said this from day one when somebody gets that level of terrorism against them, uh, there's no such thing as overreacting.

Speaker 2: 1:09:20

Like dropping a nuke would still be a possibility. In my head, the US did way more for way less. But when you drag it out this long and you keep like pretending that you've all got everything under control and then somehow this is actually making progress, I just think he's, he's completely losing the pr war, even if he is killing some of the uh, the terrorists out there, uh, it's, it's not helping when you create 10 more for every one you kill. Like, what used to be good about the Mossad was the fact that they could infiltrate and execute and leave, and that's definitely not what's been happening in the last year. Yeah, so I'm pretty disappointed.

Speaker 2: 1:10:16

I think he's another guy that needs to get re-elected. So Zelensky needs to get reelected Reelected, I'm thinking unelected or re like, not reelected, but Recalled. Recalled, yeah, I think I combined the word elected and recalled in my head. Okay, yeah, but unelected would be a better term, probably uh. And then, uh it the number one, uh, uh, terrorists on twitch. Uh, got stopped at the border, uh, and had a a little conversation with the US border customs patrols.

Speaker 1: 1:11:00

That was good, which seems to be fairly exaggerated from his side.

Speaker 2: 1:11:06

Well, yeah, I mean he's trying to get the views out of it, but I think that he doesn't like. He thinks this is still a game. I think it's going to end one of these days with him being in handcuffs and we're talking about Hasan Piker. Hasanabi, who's got a fairly large streaming following on Twitch. Hasan is the nephew of Cenk.

Speaker 1: 1:11:42

Cenk Uygur of the Young Church.

Speaker 2: 1:11:44

Cenk, however you name him, yeah, and so he kind of rolled into that role from having relatives in and knowing kind of how to work the crowd. But his views, which he is very public about, is that he totally supports terrorist acts because they're done as a response to colonialism.

Speaker 1: 1:12:09

Well, and that babies can be colonizers. Well, sure, I mean, it's a very Well I'm just clarifying when you say colonialism, he would throw the baby out with the bathwater, is my point.

Speaker 2: 1:12:23

Absolutely, Absolutely. And the irony, of course, is that it is the people that call themselves Palestinians that are the colonizers. They're the ones that came in during the Ottoman Empire to occupy the land that was owned by Christians and Jews, and it was. I mean, that's just historical fact. You can look at old maps. It's a. It is only working in the PR sense because most people in the West, both Americans and non-Americans, but certainly all Americans, have a very poor grasp of international history. I remember, even when I was young, that we probably spent about 85% of the history work on American history and about 15% on everything else, which was mostly European, with just a sprinkling of Asia thrown in there. I mean, it was sort of like well, you're not really going to need that at any point in the future, so you don't have to worry about it. And you know the old saying about those who don't learn history, repeat it. I think it's true, regardless of where you live.

Speaker 1: 1:13:46

What Are doomed to repeat it yes.

Speaker 2: 1:13:50

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:13:51

So I think it's useful to know history, and the history of Europe is basically one of lots of bloodshed and lots of conquering by different tribes until they finally started organizing into bigger than just tribes, into countries, and then even more bloodshed and even more conquering by the countries and a few invasions thrown in for good measure Asians thrown in for good measure.

Speaker 2: 1:14:19

And this kind of goes along with my theory that the greatest motivator to invent, to get ahead of everybody else is war. There's nothing like the fear of death to make somebody and by somebody, I'm referring to pretty much the whole country to make them, and by somebody I'm referring to pretty much the whole country to make them get very creative and try and get ahead of their competition, which is how I think Europe pulled away from all the other continents in terms of their level of progress. I agree, towards modernity, like if you took the war away, if they were all peaceful, I don't think we'd see the same Europe Not saying that war is good. But if you're going to have war, you might as well at least get something good out of it.

Speaker 1: 1:15:16

Well, it's not just that, Because if you look, china's been kind of the same. But uh, it's interesting because china, but obviously inventing gunpowder, yet in all their wars and everything else that they were doing, never feel it really figured out a good militaristic use for it yet the europeans see it and go ooh. So I don't know man, I think there's some bigger cultural differences than just war.

Speaker 2: 1:15:46

Well, Koreans, when they got gunpowder from China, they immediately used it for military actions. It was a no-brainer to them because they kept getting invaded. Yeah, so yeah, I think it's a motivator and, frankly, I think you and I have both now got a bit. We're old enough now to have seen what happens to generations of men when there has not been any real war for many decades oh it, good times make weak men.

Speaker 1: 1:16:31

Weak men make that. Bad times. Bad times make strong men strong men make good times.

Speaker 2: 1:16:36

It's a cycle yeah, exactly, exactly, and it's, it's likely to be continue being a cycle, but my fear is that the progress of that cycle is going to result in a much smaller and weaker America, because the current generations are having no kids and they have way too strong emotional feelings about topics that they should have almost no emotional feelings about, like furry rights.

Speaker 1: 1:17:23

Yeah, it's one of those things, man, it's again. So Gen Alpha well, the Zoomers, because they're the ones finishing. You know, gen Alpha is going to be the smallest generation we've seen in a very long time. The Millennials hey, at least we exist.

Speaker 2: 1:17:49

right, we have the numbers, we're the second largest generation living Definitely zero of your work, that's your parents having a lot of kids.

Speaker 1: 1:18:03

Right, zero of your work. That's your parents having a lot of kids, right, but you know the baby boomers, they didn't have a lot of kids.

Speaker 2: 1:18:07

Gen x's fairly small, yeah gen x was, I think, one of the first populations where there was not a there was a contraction, yeah, and and I, anecdotally, I noticed it fairly early on, like I was, I got to almost 30 years old and not only did I not have a kid, but I'd say most of my friends, like probably about 70% of my friends, uh, many of whom were married, did not have kids and didn't have plans for kids.

Speaker 2: 1:18:35

And no one hated kids, no one's like oh, I I'm never having kids. Everyone was very sort of ambivalent about it, like, yeah, you know, I'll have kids whatever, if we do or if we don't, that's fine too, and that was kind of my attitude, like I I thought it'd be. I certainly envisioned myself having kids, but I never had a stamp or a timeline on it. And, um, you know, when we first got married, my, my then wife, wanted kids right away and I was like, but don't you want to explore the world and have fun? And you know, keep your figure the way it is for a little while and then have kids later? Um, so you screwed up.

Speaker 2: 1:19:17

I screwed up totally. I I see it in the rearview mirror, believe me. And then that flipped about five years later to where I'm like, hey, you know, I've been married five years, I think I think it's time to pump up some babies. And she's like, uh no, I still haven't done all the stuff I want to do. So, yeah, but again, I don't have huge regrets over it or anything. I think it would have been fun to have kids, but at the same time, I never really saw it as like a. It was never my mission in life to reproduce.

Speaker 1: 1:19:57

Fair enough.

Speaker 2: 1:19:59

Yeah, and I think that's part of the problem, because whatever we were getting taught, that made a lot of us think that only became amplified later explain well, I mean are you thinking like the population bomb book?

Speaker 2: 1:20:19

I don't think yeah, I think that the future, many of the younger generations, um, you know the, the, your generations, again, you, you kind of, were the products of your parents. But it definitely started there and it kept the ball. It didn't start there we, it started with us. But the ball kept rolling to the point where right now, there was a photo I posted on X, I think, about a week ago, that had a billboard that said you know, if you love the earth, then Don't have kids. You should, no, then you should get a vasectomy.

Speaker 1: 1:21:02

Well, you saw.

Speaker 2: 1:21:03

Like a premeditated young age vasectomy, Like I will never have kids. That's crazy. That's insane. Why would you want to look like a?

Speaker 1: 1:21:12

lesbian. It's not just that, but we see this bombing at the fertility clinic. Yeah, you know the guy was a young guy yeah, young guy who thought there were too many people in the world and yeah, and you know I also don't disagree with that statement.

Speaker 2: 1:21:33

I just don't think you ought to do anything about it.

Speaker 1: 1:21:37

I think that I think there's not enough people in the world. I think population collapse is way worse than population explosion.

Speaker 2: 1:21:44

I think that's a very selfish position to take, because population collapse really only means one thing, and that is there are more old people than young people, correct?

Speaker 1: 1:21:55

And that is not a good thing.

Speaker 2: 1:21:57

Well, it's not a good thing if you're an old person, yeah, or young person actually both, but uh, but I don't think that that's the reason that there ought to be more people.

Speaker 2: 1:22:10

Okay, I think I this is something that's a little controversial, but we talked about it before and this is why I, I would consider myself an old school like 100 year, probably 150 at this point yeah, 150 year old lesbian. No, 150 year old, uh, level eugenicist, because I, I definitely think that the current generation, starting with probably about 50 years ago, 50, 60 years ago has drastically started screwing up with the natural selection that's been going on for millions of years. Rehabilitate everybody and not let a single child die, or a single person die out of suicide, for that matter, is a bad policy. It pollutes the gene pool, it it allows those traits that naturally, for literally millions of generations, would have wiped people off and not have them reproduce. It actually encourages the reproduction of people with those traits so that those traits keep getting passed on and polluting the entirety of the population. You know it's again, I don't see why it's controversial, but I think it kind of is to say it, but there's a reason why American black athletes are better than most white athletes.

Speaker 1: 1:23:43

Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:23:43

You know what that reason is right? Well, the reason is because all the weak genetic links didn't make it to this country. All the weak ones died on the bridge. So when you have and you can certainly say that this is, you know, a horrible event- but that can be said.

Speaker 1: 1:24:05

But that can be said of the pilgrims as well.

Speaker 2: 1:24:08

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. This is why Americans were better than the British. There's no two ways about it. And this is why I think the marshals, the Martians will be better than the Earthers. Because you have to have adversity. It's built into nature, it's built into survival of the fittest, it's built into this idea that not everyone is meant to survive. Because if you want to optimize for survival, survival you have to keep improving your lineage and you can't do that if a hundred percent of you always survive okay, you're, you're a genesis, it's okay I know, but I'm not.

Speaker 2: 1:24:52

I'm not trying to hide it, I'm just saying like that term's gotten a bad rap. It didn't used to have a bad rap. It used to mean what I'm describing, which is the idea that when you start fucking with nature, nature will fuck you back.

Speaker 1: 1:25:09

The history of nature is written tooth and claw and that has to be understood for sure.

Speaker 2: 1:25:16

For literally everybody. No species gets away with it. Agreed Same laws for everyone, it's you know. So in retrospect, I think this is where some of the Old Testament is wrong. They should have said eat more pork, eat more bugs from the sea.

Speaker 1: 1:25:40

Because if they did that, then the jews that would have survived would have been a lot stronger well, but you know, I think it's okay I know you're, I get it depends on what you mean by strong, because I have yet to see a jewish bodybuilder, but you know, I'm sure they exist.

Speaker 2: 1:26:04

Oh, you have. You have, I've sent you one. I'll send them again, okay? Yeah, you do not want to be in a room with this dude on that note gene is there anything else you want to talk about, because everything I've brought up. You're just like I've not seen it I don't know what you want me to do.

Speaker 1: 1:26:22

I don't know what you want me to do.

Speaker 2: 1:26:23

I haven't I, and maybe I'll be back on the political track next week. But I, I will tell you I've kind of gotten a little bit of a political burnout going, like I've noticed in the last couple of months. I'm just less interested, like, yeah, stuff's yes, most of it's good, some of it's bad, but it's just. If I don't look at politics for like four to six hours, I just feel better. And I felt bad for a long time because we had to live for four years with the results of crooked elections and that was that was rough.

Speaker 2: 1:27:05

Well some would say that was depressing.

Speaker 1: 1:27:08

Biden's entire term should be nullified based off of this audio recording that came out. Yeah, like there. There's no way, yeah, there's no way he had any cognition capable of making any decisions. And, quite frankly, the 25th Amendment needs to have a dereliction of duty charge added to it if a vice president knowingly does not do it, yeah, but everyone also didn't really want her to be the president.

Speaker 2: 1:27:39

Okay, I mean, honestly, most people were like give it a choice, not her. No, who knows. All right, ben, let's wrap this puppy up.

Speaker 1: 1:27:52

All right, gene, we'll talk to you next week. Sounds good.