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Staring Down Civil War
The fault lines running through America have never been more visible. From California's border crisis, where President Trump has deployed troops against Governor Newsom's wishes, to the spectacular public falling-out between Trump and Elon Musk, we're witnessing real-time fracturing of political alliances and constitutional norms.
What makes this moment particularly concerning is how both Pat Buchanan and Ray Dalio—voices from different spheres—are openly discussing the potential for civil conflict. This isn't fringe speculation anymore; it's becoming mainstream conversation. The deployment of federal troops to override state authority, organized nationwide protests like "No Kings Day," and bitter divisions within what should be allied political camps all point toward a troubling trajectory.
Internationally, Ukraine's audacious drone strike against Russia's nuclear-capable bomber fleet represents a dangerous escalation that few are fully appreciating. By targeting assets specifically positioned to be visible under nuclear treaties, Ukraine has exploited a loophole that may forever change the nuclear deterrence landscape. The question isn't whether Russia will retaliate, but how severely—and whether this pushes us closer to nuclear confrontation.
Meanwhile, domestic developments in gun rights continue to unfold with a Kansas judge striking down machine gun possession charges by citing the Second Amendment under the Bruen framework. As military technology adapts based on lessons from Ukraine and commercial vehicles like Chevy Tahoes get repurposed for battlefield use, we're seeing the blurring of civilian and military technologies in unprecedented ways.
Join us for this wide-ranging discussion where we ask the most important question: Is there an off-ramp from the path toward conflict that seems increasingly inevitable? Or are we witnessing the prelude to a fundamental restructuring of the American experiment as we know it?
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Howdy Ben, how are you today?
Speaker 2:I'm doing well, Gene yourself.
Speaker 1:Pretty good. Still a little bit of catch up after my two week long trip, but I learned that pretty good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, where'd you go Northern?
Speaker 1:Mexico.
Speaker 2:Come on now. So the Mexican border extends all the way up to Seattle, Washington, it might.
Speaker 1:It might these days. Have you guys seen California.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude Not part of America Huh.
Speaker 1:Not part of America.
Speaker 2:Well, or at least a fight is being had over it, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:I'm okay, letting them go.
Speaker 2:Me too is being had over it, that's for sure. I'm okay letting them go, me too. But at the same time, man, I am glad to see trump brought in the national guard and is overriding new scum yeah, well it's.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not just national guard, he's got a full battalion going out there, yep, actual armed forces, which you know. Is there a? Is there a law against that, or something? Uh well, it's all national guard troops, though, so no, no, I just read earlier today that that there's a battalion of regular army going in well, it depends on what role they are standing up as like.
Speaker 2:If they're just supporting the national Guard and the National Guard is the one, they're the ones doing the actual law enforcement function, then you're fine. But yes, you have the posse comitatus rules that prevent the military from being used against the citizenry.
Speaker 1:And do you think Trump, the dictator, is going to follow those rules?
Speaker 2:I don't think he's breaking any rules.
Speaker 1:Just what a Nazi lover would say. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I enjoy watching hippies getting their shit beat up because you know, nothing's worse than a hippie. But at the same time, um, it does kind of set a precedent for the next president, that if you don't like something somewhere, just bring in troops uh well, no, this precedent has been set many times, um you know, during the uh la riots over the rodney king stuff yeah, but I mean like in your lifetime that was in my lifetime barely okay, but uh, my point being not that it's the first time it's ever happened, but simply that you know, the democrats viciously play tit for tat.
Speaker 1:Anything you do, they will do twice as hard. And so my question there is why don't we just let la burn?
Speaker 2:I, I, I don't hate that idea I mean, what's the downside?
Speaker 1:all the liberal voters that live there that are going to be now moving to texas? Okay, that's a small downside yeah, no, the.
Speaker 2:The downside really is, though, that the ice agents need to be protected. They need to be allowed to do what they're doing. When you look at the people they are deporting, it's like holy shit, who is protesting this? Why would anyone be protesting this? Well, isis, obviously. How is ice protesting the isis?
Speaker 2:oh, isis, yes isis, america is protesting us well, I don't know, I just don't know how you can look at the list of the people that they're deporting at least what has been released publicly and go oh yeah, no, um, we want those rapists and murderers and child molesters to stay here. You know when they say from the river to the sea.
Speaker 1:I think they mean from the Mississippi River to the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, you can take Texas out of my cold dead hands. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Well, I sent you the Well you know Texas does belong to mexico, according to them oh yeah, I've seen the maps uh you know what I would say is I?
Speaker 2:I sent you that. Uh, that pat buchanan, yeah quote which is amazing, he's still alive yeah well, but he, he's saying you know, we've got about three or four americas when you're not one america. And he's completely correct. My dad told me he was still alive. I was shocked. And then ray dalio coming out today with an article on civil war and pool's been saying that for three years well, again, show me the off-ramp man.
Speaker 2:I, you, and I have been saying it for years too we have, we have, yeah, I'm and it's not because we want to fight no it's not because we definitely don't want to fight.
Speaker 1:We just like collecting gadgets and things, but having gadgets is better than not having them when it comes to fighting. Indeed.
Speaker 2:Indeed, I will tell you that I did get a new gadget, but it's not gun-related, so we'll save that.
Speaker 1:Okay, got it. Yeah, tell us about the butt plug separately.
Speaker 2:God damn it. No, no, no, thank you.
Speaker 1:Oh well, I just assumed that.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah. So no, California is burning. La, man they're, you know. And the thing is, all these people are committing felony assault. Yeah, you know, throwing a rock at a vehicle is felony assault yeah, I don't care whose vehicle.
Speaker 1:It doesn't have to be a cop car, it could be a tesla and I.
Speaker 2:I just don't know how these people think they're going to get away with it well. Well, they have been. So that's how they think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, if they've been getting away with no issues, then they're going to keep thinking they can get away with no issues. So yeah, I get it. I think that there's a well. You saw what Gasson Neeson said. He told Trump to go stuff it. He says California is none of his business.
Speaker 2:I, you know what. Then what I would say and what I think.
Speaker 1:Should he dared Trump or the federal government? I should say he dared the federal government to come and arrest him.
Speaker 2:And we should. We should go in and arrest Gavin Newsom for aiding and abetting these people.
Speaker 1:I just, I see it totally differently. I think we just need defense, but not on our southern border, on our western border. I want to keep the Californians in with the crazy people because they've left all the crazy people run things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's, there's some danger in that, but okay, eh.
Speaker 1:What you think. There's less in bringing them here Texas.
Speaker 2:No, no, no no. I don't want them to come to Texas, but that's why I want them to be able to stay in California.
Speaker 1:Well, if they stay in California, what do you want to do?
Speaker 2:with them. Well, if they stay in California, uh in California prisons uh, well, I mean you've seen escape from New York. Right, we could do something like that, I guess.
Speaker 1:Well, there's another one called something, something LA too Um, I can't remember the name of that movie, but but I think Kurt Russell's a prison LA or something like that. I I just I'm more of the opinion that you have to look at the cost benefit analysis of these things and sometimes letting a bad city or bad state just finally fall apart and come just finally fall apart and come down to rubble is a better solution than constantly throwing money at them and trying to fix them. You know, fix broken relationships don't get fixed, they just get prolonged, and I kind of feel like america's relationship with california is in the same boat. But I can fix her gene.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I can keep thinking you can fix california and I'm telling you you can't. It's gonna keep fucking you over and you're gonna keep feeling bad but still trying to fix her yeah well yeah, it's, it's uh in on. In some sense, this is also a symptom of us spending way too much time, money and energy looking outwardly and by us I mean america. To them, many foreign wars, not enough focus on home. This is how we end up with places like LA.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's not just LA, I think it's all of.
Speaker 1:California.
Speaker 2:No, you're right, it's not all you know, it's the big cities in California. Let me rephrase, because there are parts of California that are fantastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, the all of California is fantastic. I always said the place is absolutely great. You just need to get rid of the people.
Speaker 2:That are currently there.
Speaker 1:We just need to move them out of there, just maybe concentrate them somewhere else Just not in a nice, pretty place like California and open that up for, you know, all the people from the rest of the country.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, Alaska is not very populated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can move in there. We can build some camps up there they can live in. It'd be like camping.
Speaker 2:I don't even think you build the camps, I think you just take them up there. You look at the voter rolls and the voter records and you just take them up there and dump them in the wilderness and say good luck.
Speaker 1:You're going to let the bears decide and let them decide.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 1:I have been a supporter of bear rights for many years. I think bears ought to be entitled to vote, and if they want to vote themselves some meals out of California, that's totally their prerogative.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep Not, yep, yep Not even a bear joke.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, ben, you really are not in the happy mood right now.
Speaker 2:I am not feeling good. I had to stop all supplements and that is kicking my ass.
Speaker 1:I think I'm addicted to methylene blue now.
Speaker 2:I can't go more than one day without it well, I gotta see if that's not part of what's causing me problems could be. It does relate to kidneys and liver well, this isn't related to my kidneys or liver.
Speaker 1:I left my or feet. I left my methylene blue at home on my trip, oh no. And I was like, oh shit, if I'm not peeing blue then I'm not healthy. So I had to quick get an Amazon rush delivery order up there.
Speaker 2:Get some ASAP so I can continue on without letting my pee turn any other color well, I have uh had to stop uh all supplements for a few days, and then I'm going to start adding them back in.
Speaker 1:Make sure, that I would stop for a week, dude I I think a lot of this stuff had. The half-life is is pretty long. It's in days, not hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to do anything from now until after I probably get back from my trip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're not taking aspirin yet, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not doing anything like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they sort of tell us that we don't really need to do aspirin. But I kind of like aspirin, I like having thinner blood.
Speaker 2:Th really need to do aspirin.
Speaker 1:But I kind of like aspirin I. I like having thinner blood, like thinner blue blood is always kind of a big goal for me.
Speaker 2:So I don't know. They eat off a lot of silver. I do. I take supplements. No, like the blue bloods, they were called that because of eating off actual silverware they got silver in their blood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know that's. That's the whole thing which also, by the way, is an antibiotic also copper, yeah, copper, methylene, blue silver these are all colloidal silver, all things that tend to make your uh, your, your liquids and fluids different colors indeed, and which means they're healthy, of course well, healthier at the very least. But not giving medical advice, obviously, but nonetheless I will say blue is beautiful.
Speaker 2:So the issue I'm having is a pretty rare one and I kind of debated on whether or not to share this information on the podcast or not.
Speaker 1:I wish you'd debate whether to share it with me. But okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:But you know what I think it's? Rare enough, and one of those things that if anyone else has run into this, you're pregnant, aren't you? They? Uh, they probably. Oh, my god, ben, you're pregnant, uh, I wish, um, they, uh, if anyone else has run into this or, you know, if we think maybe the root cause of my issue is the root cause, I want to warn people. So this is an adult segment Kids. Yes, If your kids are around your earmuffs they have no business listening to this podcast.
Speaker 2:They don't, we cuss way too much listening to this podcast? No, they don't, we cuss way too much. So apparently, um, I have fractured my member a few times without knowing it, and that has caused scar tissue, and that scar tissue is now causing a condition that you would normally see in someone who takes erectile dysfunction medication. So if you've ever listened to the commercials, if you experience a erection lasting more than four hours, go to the emergency room, it's that.
Speaker 2:But I'm not on any of that medication, so we're trying to figure out the cause. Uh, we're eliminating cancers, shit like that. So it's a little bit of a scary moment, but I gotta tell you it sounds fun. It sounds fun in theory, but when you wake up in the morning and you have one for right at four hours several days in a row and it's waking you up out of your sleep and you're getting three or four or five hours of sleep for over a week, it's really not fun and it's painful. And what I would say is to anyone who has a penis um, notice, I was actually pc there yeah, that's very pc.
Speaker 2:You mean the men and women that have penises no, I mean the men who have penises, because the women who have penises aren't really probably functional, so it doesn't really matter to them anyway. But if you ever are having intercourse and you slip out and then you got to slip back in but you don't quite make it and it bends and you hear that popping noise, go to the doctor.
Speaker 1:Go to the doctor yeah, because you're not supposed to have bones in there, so you shouldn't be popping things, ben well it's it.
Speaker 2:Well, it's the vessels that end up popping and you can have a major tear which will turn black and blue. You will have to go to the doctor, you'll know it. Or you can have the minor tears like I've had over the years. That can just build up scar tissue over time and end up leading to some pretty nasty consequences. So it's had the opposite effect for me. But for most men that go through and do that, you can end up with ED later in your life. It's having the opposite effect on me, but yeah.
Speaker 1:That's a good point, ben. I think something to remember for everyone that's into cock and ball torture is just don't let it get out of hand. Just you know, when it gets to a point where it's black and blue, you may have heard something permanently go ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know anyone who is in cock and ball torture gene that is not.
Speaker 1:That's how you're popping these things.
Speaker 2:But no, no, no, not at all, thank, but anyway I it's a little bit of an embarrassing topic, but you know what, the biggest study I've been able to find on this condition and what's causing it for different people and so on, is about 120 people and they're a self-selecting group. It's not a randomized control study or anything like that or anything like that. They don't know how to treat this except surgically, in ways that no one should ever have to go through in their life. And you know.
Speaker 1:Have you thought, maybe rubbing one out might fix it.
Speaker 2:It doesn't actually oh, you have, okay, it doesn't, it does not do that In fact it's yeah, it does not matter and yeah, anyway. So that's the PSA. But the most common occurrence of this that is not drug-induced most common, is drug-induced and they know, oh well, you take Viagra. Therefore, we're going to stop this and that'll stop. The most common occurrence is actually sickle cell anemia causing it, uh, and you're not black?
Speaker 2:I I'm not and I don't have sickle cell. Then there's leukemia, which I don't have, leukemia and we're going to be scheduling a ct to make sure that this is not a very odd presentation of early lymphoma. Uh, so trying to eliminate those things and then, like I said, eliminating supplements and things right now, that maybe some way to change the formulation or something started interacting differently or whatever.
Speaker 1:I know you were taking a lot of fall asleep pills for a while. That could have something to do with it too.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. So I don't, and I haven't been throughout this because I need to wake up, I need to know when this is happening so I can start that timer and make sure that I'm not going over that four hours before I go to the ER. And another thing that people need to know is if you ever experience this, keep some Sudafed around, because if you take like three pseudofed, in about 90 minutes it will go away. Um, at least that's been my experience. And if you take the three pseudofed and in that 90 minutes it doesn't go away, you should probably be going to the er anyway pseudofed is?
Speaker 1:well, it's decongestant right yeah it's.
Speaker 2:You know it's behind the counter. You got to scan your id, shit like that, but it's something to keep around. And the other thing to note is I was reading horror stories. One case description that I read from a doctor was Somebody's penis explode, More or less. There was this guy that literally waited 36 hours before he finally went to the ER. This dude had been up for three or not, or not three days, but you know, a day and a half and he finally goes into the ER.
Speaker 1:And when you say up, we all know what you mean.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean awake too. You can't sleep with this dude. This is painful. This is not pleasant, this is it's painful. It's painful, and you know what the doctor ended up describing was, you know, making an incision on both sides of the urethra to release the fluid. And you know his comment, which was rather crass, was please make sure you're wearing a face shield and a gown, because it's going to hit the roof right, and like just thinking about ever having to go through something like that is just terrifying to me. So it needless to say, it's been a little stressful around here have you thought about making an incision?
Speaker 2:fuck you.
Speaker 1:No, no, I have not gene, okay, just checking anyway there's a movie I remember called the machinist or something like that, about a guy who kept having like a pain in his head. The only way to get rid of it was to nail a. Put a nail in his head. Have you seen that? No, okay, something like that, anyway.
Speaker 2:Um it sounds like a real condition.
Speaker 2:That's something you made up yeah, it is uh, uh so stuttering priaprism, and one of the things people should know is that four-hour mark is really important. And then we can move on to a different topic. So your you know your penis is designed to be without, uh, new oxygen for a good long while. Right, the tissues in there are, because whenever you have an erection, your penis isn't getting any new blood, so it's slowly deoxygenating that blood and it's used to that, so it can live without new oxygen for a lot longer than other parts of your body. But when you cross that four-hour threshold, you're starting to do damage. Cells are starting to die, things are starting to go wrong. When you hit the eight-hour window, you're doing permanent damage.
Speaker 2:And that poor guy that went 36 hours you know the comments in this case study was the doctor basically said he will never have uh function again, and so that's something that you know. Take it seriously. Uh, it can be embarrassing, you know. I've had to think about okay, if I'm going to go to the er, what am I going to be able to wear that I can go to the er? How am I going to do this? Um it, but it's not a joke, it's a medical emergency and it's something that everybody should you know, if it ever happens to you take it seriously and then the study.
Speaker 2:They ever figure out what causes it no, no, so over 30 percent of cases. So, first of all, this is fairly rare to happen to begin with, but 30% of cases a underlying cause is never, never identified.
Speaker 1:And if you don't slip in the Viagra into your food?
Speaker 2:if you did, ha ha ha. I mean well that could cause it. Right, it could. If you don't find the root cause, the odds of you being able to, uh, get it under control are pretty limited. So, um what?
Speaker 1:if you're like with a really ugly chick the help dude.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, I I I taking cold showers, I've sat on ice packs, I've done all sorts of shit. It's either gonna take a while and go down on its own, or it's not gonna go down on its own, or it's not going to go down on its own and you're going to have to go to the er or you have to take something what have you gone to a chinese herbalist?
Speaker 1:I have not. Why would I do? There you go, because they have special remedies for these types of things. You never know what rhino horn does until you need it.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, this reminded me, Uh, so I I even told, uh someone else that I was telling about this. This, this entire condition reminds me, and especially that case study of a joke my dad told me as a kid Um so this guy, uh, he's in the Navy.
Speaker 1:Don't play with your penis, or it'll stay that way.
Speaker 2:Yeah no, this. This guy was, uh, in the navy and he was in southeast asia boy, we all know about navy.
Speaker 2:He was at a port and you know, he went and found a hooker and hooked up with her and a few days later his thing started itching, feeling weird, and he's like, oh man, what the hell. So he goes to the uh sick bay and goes to the medic and medic goes oh man, you got the worst case of hong kong dong I've ever seen. We're gonna have to take that thing off. And he goes doctor, I no offense, but I want a second opinion. So he waits a few days and it's getting worse and worse. So he goes to another doctor and the doctor goes damn dude, that's a bad case of Hong Kong dong, we got to cut that thing off. He goes oh Jesus, all right, I got to get one more opinion. I'm going to go to an Asian doctor because hopefully, you know, they'll have some experience with this and they'll have a cure.
Speaker 2:So he goes to the Chinese doctor and the Asian doctor and he drops his drawers. And the Asianian doctor just looks at it and goes oh, hong kong dog. He goes. Oh my god, doc, no, don't tell me, we're gonna have to cut it off. He goes ah no, we no cut off two more day at fall off. So that's too funny running through my head this entire time. Oh, but yeah anyway. So the auto pin controversy.
Speaker 1:Okay, is the R rated portion of the show done?
Speaker 2:I think so yes.
Speaker 1:Oh, about the fucking time you.
Speaker 2:Hey, this is something affecting me and it's. I don't want it to affect anyone else. And I don't want other people to run into some of the horror studies stories that I have read and looked at on this and you know, early intervention you know, the only place I've had blood not want to leave was my toes with gout.
Speaker 1:So I I pretty sure I know what you feel like.
Speaker 2:Probably even worse I don't think your toe pain can compare, dude oh, I'm pretty sure the toe pain's worse.
Speaker 1:They describe it as worse than child pain okay, anyway, so auto pin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you see trump's comments?
Speaker 1:I. I mean I saw some. I was on vacation so I wasn't paying attention, but then again, again, I was forced to watch Fox.
Speaker 2:So I was watching more than normal. So, trump, I think some shoes are about to drop, dude Good good. Did you see where they got Fauci's phone and hard?
Speaker 1:drive. Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2:yeah, I think those two things and those two announcements are linked.
Speaker 1:Good, I mean, fauci is a war criminal as far as I'm concerned and, uh, I don't believe in most war crimes, but what he did absolutely is well said differently it's. It's certainly a crime against humanity I don't give a shit about humanity, just my country. I don't care if he was doing this shit in China, I care about him doing it so poorly that it spilled out of China. So it's. If we don't get him, I'd be surprised if somebody else doesn't.
Speaker 2:Who do you think would get him?
Speaker 1:Although a lot of countries spent a lot of money on this.
Speaker 2:Who do you think would try him? Although a lot of countries spent a lot of money on this? Who do you think would try and get him? Gene?
Speaker 1:I'd say pick any European country would.
Speaker 2:Any European country or one Slavic country.
Speaker 1:They could be Slavic. I don't know.
Speaker 2:All I know is they're Europeanan no, my point is has the kremlin been, uh, telling you this as?
Speaker 1:as I have no knowledge of any kremlins in northern mexico. Um. So as the uh, the details start leaking out, I think a lot more people are going to start getting mad at Fauci. I'm already mad at him for killing dogs, so you know yeah, I. I, I, I agree with that. In inventing AIDS, that was the other thing he did.
Speaker 2:So I think the interesting thing is that, like the Hunter Biden pardon was apparently not auto pen.
Speaker 1:Amazing, isn't that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, I think amazing, isn't it? Yeah, oh, I think it's going to be very interesting to see who was auto pen and who wasn't, and who they decide to go after. And, quite frankly, if they even decide to say you know what? Uh, we don't care if you've got a pardon or not. Dude, the blanket pardon like this is not legal no, and we're gonna go through.
Speaker 1:In general, I don't think are legal. I think they're more in the constitution yes, they are legal but they're not. I mean, it doesn't really say what that pardon means, just this word pardon. You can pardon somebody and they'll spend the rest of their time in jail for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2:That's pardonable no, that is not what is understood it might be depends on your disingen.
Speaker 1:It all depends on the legal interpretation. Okay. I think. But the kidding aside though, the point here is that since when can you pre-pardon? That seems to be a fairly new concept.
Speaker 3:Or blanket pardon. Yes, I get when somebody has been already convicted.
Speaker 1:like if you take somebody that's convicted and you make them stop serving their sentence by pardoning them, I get that. But when do you get to say, oh yeah, if you ever charge this guy for any crime, he has a get out of jail free card for the future? So say the president, I don't believe that's in the constitution, dude. I think a pardon requires a conviction.
Speaker 2:I agree with you and that's, but it's never been challenged because it's a fake thing.
Speaker 1:It doesn't exist. Why would you know? I agree with you challenge I.
Speaker 2:I don't think that, uh, the nixon pardon was legal either, but it was done. He didn't need pardoning, he didn't do anything wrong. I well, we can debate that some.
Speaker 1:but okay, g Gordon Liddy was the guy that went to prison for it, you know, and he did a sign, so it's all good, nixon, there was nothing to convince Nixon of of there, in my opinion, conspiracy yeah, the guy was senile. He can't be conspiratorial when you're senile. How was nixon senile? He had no memory. He had to record everything on tape just to remember, please, my god how do you not know this?
Speaker 1:oh, jesus, gene, come on now you show me a guy, I'll tell you why he's innocent uh, gene the fixer to live.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anyway, uh, I, I did you. Did you watch cash patel on uh?
Speaker 1:I did. Cash looked like a squirrely little rat really. He was nervous as fuck. Do you not pick that up at all? He looked like an indian student about to cheat on his medical exam. Okay tell me more well, I mean, I don't know. There's a whole lot more, because I've seen those like um, you know, like you're not, you don't get as good grades your parents think you do, and so you're gonna have to resort to paying somebody for the answers. And that's what cash looked like in my opinion. What did you think?
Speaker 2:um, I think, interpret it a little differently, I think especially when you look at what Pam Bondi was caught on tape saying. I think he was trying to not have a gaffe and not say something and then something not happen. But I think he is a honest actor uh and I think that that honest actor is uh very nervous that he's going to be stopped from doing what he wants to do. Uh, because I don't think cash or dan bongino are gonna sit there and not let something come out, unless but gino's pretty vocal.
Speaker 2:I watched him as well unless there's a gun to their family's head.
Speaker 1:Um, so yeah yeah, but gino seemed like he was a lot more animated and more of the you know, let them be damned kind of attitude. Cash seemed to be a lot less sure of himself in this video, in this interview, than what I remember him being on Tim Pool. Well where he didn't have a job.
Speaker 2:But I think I guess the question is what is the interpretation of you know why we think that is?
Speaker 1:Well, because I think there's a few things, and while I do think that Elon Musk who, by the way, everybody knows, has Asperger's- and so any insults from him should not be taken lightly.
Speaker 1:We'll get to him later, but I'm using him as a reference point, much like he said what he said about Trump hanging out with Epstein. I think the reality is the vast majority of our senators and a good chunk of our congressmen also hung out with epstein, and so it's not a person or even a group of a few people stopping data from being released. It is literally one entire branch of the government, quite possibly half the judicial branch of the government as well, because judges who knows what they're wearing under their robes?
Speaker 1:they're probably pedophiles and then, uh, you know, like trying to fight against congress, I think for any administration is going to be an uphill battle, but fighting against congress, who also has all kinds of other blackmail material against your boss and his boss and his boss, I think is really hard well, I I think, uh, I think that there are.
Speaker 2:I I think that that's partially right, but so it's tied into this. So let's, let's do talk a little bit about trump musk. I I think the trump musk thing is staged. I really do.
Speaker 1:Oh my god you, you and a bunch of other people. I know I think you're all idiots. There's no way, because they're. These are two billionaires. Billionaires do not have a normal sense of humor and attitude that the rest of the people have. They had to get to where they are in life by doing things other people wouldn't do. Both of them have an extremely high narcissistic tendency.
Speaker 2:They express it differently.
Speaker 1:Trump expresses it by always trying to show off all the things he has. Musk tries to express it by I'm the smartest guy in the world.
Speaker 2:I don't need things.
Speaker 1:Things don't matter. There's nobody that can do what I do. When these two guys were like, uh, you know, an unmovable object and an unstoppable object, kidding, you knew something fantastic was going to happen when they decided to hit each other, and and I think that's exactly what we're seeing is we're seeing two guys that just don't give a shit about doing this in public, and so they did it in public, whereas most people of a certain level, like the millionaires, would never do this in public. Only billionaires would do this in public. Billionaires and people living in the street. That's the two types of people that would do this in public, with everybody else sitting around eating popcorn. So I don't think it's staged, I think it's real. I think they both lashed out. They both said some incredibly hurtful, insulting things about the other. You know, trump called musk a drug addict.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but hold on, first of all musk that he. He says he does drugs, which he does um and well holding a clearance, that becomes a problem. But anyway, let's just focus on one thing, though. The way for musk phrased that trump was on the epstein files and that's why they're not being released.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that statement is going to get every democrat in the country clamoring to have those files released I know that's literally what all of you guys say is that this is all a way to get the democrats to push through releasing the files. Democrats can't do that because there are more of them in there than they are of the of Trump and Musk, or Trump Musk's not in there, it's I mean. The big joke with that I assumed you would start off with is like the the Epstein files won't be released until Mossad decides to release them. Oh well, that's a given. When they decide that it's beneficial for them to release the files, all the files will be released. So you know, if the US decides to stop supporting Israel, we're going to see the Epstein files which would you prefer.
Speaker 1:Take your pick. Say that again. Take your pick. Which would you prefer? Uh between the files, uh-huh uh and uh not send israel any money I know it's a win-win for you and then, or uh not see the files and uh keep sending Israel money?
Speaker 2:Oh, stop sending Israel money and see the files Duh.
Speaker 1:Exactly, but I don't think our Congress critters are going to take that vote.
Speaker 2:We will see. So, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've predicted, remember. I said originally these files would never be seen. Yeah, I don't care who says and announces what. No.
Speaker 2:It ain't going to happen. He's the real deal, he is the real deal.
Speaker 1:He was not a pretend pedophile, arguably by the laws of that island. He wasn't a pedophile at all Because he got to dictate what age consent was on his own island. But you know, if you look at US laws which the US tends to look at US laws for US citizens, regardless of what country they're in if you do something that is illegal in the US but legal in the country that you're visiting, us still considers it a crime. Well, the main crime would be trafficking.
Speaker 1:But that's such an invented crime, it's such a bullshit thing that they've created out of thin air. Uh, trafficking used to mean something like trafficking used to be you're buying people, you're buying slaves. It has gotten morphed into somebody coerced their girlfriend into doing sexual acts and that's now considered trafficking. Okay. So I think, much like with other words like Nazi, when you use them too much, they lose their meaning, they lose their strength, they lose their power. I think trafficking is in the exact same boat, because it's been greatly overused.
Speaker 1:I've seen countless videos on YouTube of men being accused of trafficking and when you look at, well, who did they traffic? Well, it turns out it was their ex-girlfriend. Okay, and how exactly did they track that? Well, they threatened to leave her if she didn't do something. That's now called trafficking. I don't buy it. And the way that you can tell is in the way that the person that is allegedly being trafficked acts, because you could make just as much of an argument that Jalene Maxwell was being trafficked as any of the other women there, the way that that word is currently used.
Speaker 2:Except she's a willing participant.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, and that's what I will say is, to some extent everybody's a willing participant and I I guarantee that Maxwell was not a 100% willing participant you don't think she was his handler. God, no. Why not no willing participant?
Speaker 2:you don't think she was his handler god no why not? No, uh, she wouldn't be in prison right now if she was okay.
Speaker 1:I I don't know, man. No, she's in prison.
Speaker 2:What proof of this do we have?
Speaker 1:Well, she's not dead, so that's a good sign. So are you assuming that she's not in prison right now?
Speaker 2:I would not be surprised if I learned out that she was not in prison but on a beach somewhere.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. Well, we don't really know if he ever got killed either. We saw some crappy ass video that alleges it was him. How do we know that was him?
Speaker 2:well, that's why it's going to be very interesting to see what cash and dan and everybody ends up putting out that will be nothing nothing. I, I don't know, man I I still have some faith that we're gonna get some major moves, you know let me, let me ask you this is there a variant of this?
Speaker 1:and I'm curious because I I'm obviously wondering if my prediction would be correct, but is there a variant of this somehow which, in your mind, would justify not putting the data out, like what would have to be associated with this for you to think that, okay, well, they're making the right choice and not releasing it publicly.
Speaker 2:Nothing Okay, I don't think there's yeah.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, you're more of the kind of boy scout type, um, so look, if he didn't like. I know it's fun to talk about him being a massad agent, right, but let's say he didn't work for massad. Let's say he worked for the cia and that this was a illegal operation inside the united states. The cia used to get its way with a variety of folks and let's say that this was signed off on by barack obama and before him, by joy.
Speaker 1:It predates predates Because they're related, right. You know they're cousins and you know we have ex-presidents, we have tons of members of Congress, we have a lot of rich people that donate money to members of Congress that either were part of or were ensnared by this operation. I will say that this isn't the only operation of this type going on right now. Yeah, so do you want to? Jeopardize. Well, I was trying, okay, go ahead All right.
Speaker 2:So one of the things I would say is a lot of the allegations are that a lot of people did not know that these women were underage. They assumed they were over 18.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they were all like 16 or 17. Maybe 15. But old enough that they didn't look like they were preteens, correct, which is the first thing most people think of when you say pedophile.
Speaker 2:Right and let's be clear, there is a, at least for me. I think there's a big difference between consensually having sex with, like, a 16 year old. If you're an 18 year old, then a 40 year old man molesting a child, a prepubescent child. I think there's a vastly different. Like statutory shouldn't exist, I guess is what I'm saying I agree there needs to be better definitions around that.
Speaker 1:I agree 18 is an arbitrary number that people came up with here in the us that that is at best an average, at worst purely arbitrary. Um, for the majority of human history, the age of impregnation not just consent was 13. That was usually when, uh, you know, women could have kids, and we all know that pre-20th century childbirth was a dangerous activity. About 30% of women died during childbirth. And so this idea that, well, we're going to wait until she's like 30 before we're going to have kids, the human population does not survive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but regardless, we can get back to your point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my point is let's say that there, that this was a us operation, fully sanctioned by all the top branches of the us government, including judicial and presidential and congressional, and there are currently multiple similar operations going on right now. Would you jeopardize all of that to reveal details about this one past thing that the guy who was doing it was already convicted of anyway?
Speaker 2:um, yeah, because it's not about him. I want to. I want to get the politicians, every single one of them I want to be able to remove half of congress yes, yes.
Speaker 1:So you, you just want to use this as a bludgeon.
Speaker 2:You want Congress to bludgeon?
Speaker 1:itself, which ain't going to happen.
Speaker 2:I want them to be held accountable for what they chose to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it works when you ask the very people who did the thing to be accountable to themselves. It never happened.
Speaker 2:I understand it's like the police. We investigated ourselves and found exactly.
Speaker 1:We investigated ourselves. It doesn't work. It doesn't work, and I I suspect here the the reality of the situation, given the lack of more immediate details immediately upon the sentencing or before, even during the trial itself. Um, it was became pretty clear to me that this is a fully sanctioned and b probably not unique.
Speaker 2:So I I don't necessarily agree with that. What I would say is I so, for instance, trump Trump's involvement from what we know, you know he flew on Epstein's plane not to the island but a different location with his kids. I don't think Trump was into this, I don't think he was ensnared by this and I think he could be the person to take this down. But we'll find out and I may be proven totally wrong, but I can be hopeful.
Speaker 1:Here's what I suspect. I'm going to use Zachum's razor here and say that the most likely scenario is that Trump is more involved than we've been led to believe, but not nearly as involved as the people that hate Trump think he is, which probably means, if he hasn't been to the island, he's likely been around Epstein with these young women and not said anything and not pointed anything out. And basically, if you're hanging out with a dude who's got slaves and you do nothing, how guilty are you?
Speaker 2:Well, I'll say this having his slaves yeah, but I'll say this you know the um, what was that? Uh, epstein accuser that just passed away, what was her name? Bill gates, the accuser, the chick, yeah yeah, I can't remember her name anyway, she came out and said number 14 yeah, yeah, she said. She came out and said you know, hey, um, trump was always nice and respectful. Uh, around there, he never did anything to us. Like she defended trump or not, like he never flirted with us and so on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but she'd spend time.
Speaker 2:Yes, she'd been at the same party.
Speaker 1:Party or parties.
Speaker 2:Or events or bedrooms.
Speaker 1:Theoretically just a party. I mean, the more she said about Trump, the guiltier he looks. How so? Because a person that barely saw him in passing once wouldn't have a whole lot to say. Okay, this is like courtroom 101 stuff the more information somebody has, the more intimately knowledgeable they are about that person right, but there wasn't a whole lot said.
Speaker 2:It was just you know, hey, at this party he didn't do this.
Speaker 1:So I don't see that as an indictment of trump it's good that he didn't, and there probably isn't an indictment of trump for uh, you know, for whatever I mean. Obviously he wasn't the one trafficking, but probably he probably never had sex with anybody in their age either. But is that going to be sufficient enough for the guy that that talked about grabbed him by the pussy to not have his image and reputation tarnished? I, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Even even if he I think as long as he did not there's no video or proof that trump ever did anything with an underage girl yeah, knowingly or otherwise in the files.
Speaker 1:I think he has nothing to lose at this point so if a guy goes to a whorehouse, has sex there well, everyone knows he's a philanderer. This is not it hangs out let me finish, hangs out. The bar talks to the girls working there. Knows the girls are underage and other people are having sex with underage girl, but he doesn't. Do you think that somehow makes him be the good guy here?
Speaker 2:I don't think it makes him a good guy at all, but I don't think it's anything that they could use to really.
Speaker 1:I mean, again we have what you tell me why has trump not just blanket uncensored this stuff? Because he has the power to take anything, any document in government and declassify it.
Speaker 2:The argument has been made that they don't want to re-victimize the women, so that's why they're going through it.
Speaker 1:That's a bullshit argument, because the women have been in court, some of them, yeah, and the ones that haven't clearly uh, you know they don't, uh, they're not, they're not going to provide any details. Well, how are they going to be victimized? I, I don't know, man, I I would it's a. I think it's a specious argument. I think it's a.
Speaker 2:I think it has enough credibility to get for me to give them a few months to get it done, but they need to get it done and get it out well, what does that mean?
Speaker 1:just a whole like 180 pages of black lines no, I think.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, it better be way more than 180 pages, and what it should have is victim names redacted, and that's about it they could do that today. They don't have to have three months to do that well, you could have done it frankly, censoring footage, doing lots of things okay we will see no reason for it. There's this story's not going to go away then, and it's really going to hurt it's going to recirculate, but it goes away after usually a week or two and people stop talking about it for a while and then it comes back and then they stop again.
Speaker 1:Bottom line is if trump wanted to, he could have made this happen week one okay why does?
Speaker 2:he not want to, unless he's mentioned but even if he is mentioned, I don't see how it would preclude that like that's not what it was saying.
Speaker 1:Musk was saying that they're not published because trump's name is in there. That's all he said. He didn't say trump banged a girl who was underage. He just simply said the reason the documents aren't out is essentially what I just said, which is trump doesn't want them to be out and therefore they're not out.
Speaker 2:I think it does more to damage trump and the faith in the administration that he needs for the excuse me for for the uh, midterms it does. I think it did before that, but I I really think it does more to damage trump for the midterms not releasing it than releasing it and being named and saying, hey, you hung out with this dude.
Speaker 2:You were there, you knew this was happening I don't disagree, yeah, I don't agree, so I don't think that's what's preventing him from uh, trump doesn't necessarily think the same way that you and I do you're right, he's usually craftier, and that's why I think that this was all a setup okay, all right, well, we'll, we'll, we'll keep the QAnon torch burning, I guess, jesus Christ. Where we go one, we go all.
Speaker 1:I heard this for three and a half years. This has all been planned. Trump is about to announce that the government is really reporting to him and he is about to take over. Yeah, I never bought into the q anon, bullshit dude but it's the same mentality, it's this idea that it's all. Everything you see, no matter what it looks like, it's all pre-planned and we're expecting a miracle to To come through, and it never does. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, so, so Are we done with this, or is there any more? Almost One last thing is yeah.
Speaker 1:I think Trump Could have potentially screwed up big time with Elon. How's that? Because I think that Probably other people know and certainly it's pretty obvious If you look at the stats. Trump just lost the midterm. If Elon doesn't want him to win it, it would take very little effort by Elon to make Trump be a lame duck by the end of his second two years by simply making sure and supporting a couple of centrist Democrats in winning against Republicans. He did it the other way around. He did it for the Republicans in a number of states this election. He could flip around, do it for a couple of Democrats in the next election. That's it Trump's done. He had two years out of this term.
Speaker 2:Again. That's part of the reason why I don't. Why wouldn't trump uh cow a little? Oh my god, yeah, but you don't. You don't get to be a billionaire by letting your ego drive you to dumb decisions well.
Speaker 1:He's very open and always willing to change what side I'm talking about Trump now. Change what side he thinks somebody on. There's been people who's credit criticized like crazy, that he's ended up bringing on and talking about how good they are. But he's also done the opposite, just like he did with Elon, whereas somebody that he talked about like he's one of the greatest people in America, he's a real treasure, blah, blah, blah, blah blah. I always thought he was a drug addict. You know, I told him he needs to wrap up. I'm done with him. He's not doing anything here. It's like that happened 180 degrees in two days, in 48 hours. It was amazing to see it was hours. It was amazing to see it was predictable. It was very predictable because Trump's done it both directions in the past. He did it with Kennedy. You know Kennedy was this guy who is crazy until Kennedy joined the Trump team and then now he's like fantastic and awesome and Elon was on the team. More than anything, this kind of makes Vivek look smart Because he left early.
Speaker 2:It also makes. One of the things you also have to consider is what happened with Ted Cruz Right?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Ted Cruz got brought back into the fold. I guarantee you that Elon will end up being brought back into the fold. Elon's not a politician. I think he's a lot more powerful than the politician. Well, do you think elon's going to what elon's going? You know he's talking about dismantling, launch systems and everything else, like you know, uh do you think he's gonna do that.
Speaker 1:I think that's just hot air from both sides, because okay first of all.
Speaker 1:So trump can't cancel contracts that nasa did and elon can't cancel contracts with nasa. That would get tied up in court for longer than four years and during that time the courts will ensure that everything keeps happening as usual. So neither one of them can do those things. I think that's just, you know, hot air on both sides, frankly, but how stupid it is to say something negative about Elon and what his companies are doing for the government. It's like really dude. Not only did he get Trump elected, he's the only reason that the US still has access to the International Space Station right now. You think that they would have access if there was sanctions against Russia right now?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:No, that's it. America's done with ISS, europeans, you're done with ISS. Now it's only going to be Russia and China going.
Speaker 2:China doesn't participate in ISS.
Speaker 1:Ah, they didn't, but Russia could invite them, since they're the ones sending people up and nobody else wants to go. My point is I think Trump is thinking he's just some crony that came in to work for him that really liked him, forgetting that Elon's the actual billionaire, trump's the barely a billionaire.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's the three comma club, dude, and you ain't in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, except Elon's almost in the fourth comma club, and he's the only one in it.
Speaker 2:He is not anywhere near a fourth comma club.
Speaker 1:He's the closest of anybody else, except for putin okay, okay, uh, speaking of russia getting their ass kicked um the drone attack, yeah, yeah, I guess it hasn't been that long since we haven't talked about, so I gotta say I think this was one of the most brilliant PR moves anybody could accomplish. Whoever came up with this whether it was the UK or the U? S is obviously wasn't Ukraine, but whoever came up with it? Fucking amazing that that is something that will be in the history books forever. Regardless of the end outcome of the war, everybody will learn about this drone attack in the future. So good job. Um, what do you want to talk about it? I mean, there's practical aspects, which is like. The same reason that it's great is because somebody has to be aware enough of treaties between russia and the us to know that those planes have to be visible 24 7, right?
Speaker 2:so they've been sitting. I want to explain as to why yeah, it's, it's part of the same as the our. You know the buff right. It's part of the nuclear triad.
Speaker 1:Exactly, it's part of the negotiated treaties. Each country knows how many nuclear-capable assets the other country has and it has an easy access to evaluate if those numbers have either changed or any have gone missing, and that is for mutual safety. The US does the exact same thing as Russia. In this case. The US also has their planes grounded and visible from the nuclear triad for inspection purposes, with the assumption that no other country would dare to attack these nuclear capable delivery vehicles because they would be getting the wrath at that point, because you know any attack on a country that has the well at this point I'm going to assume China has more than everybody, but certainly any country that has as many as Russia or the US or China you don't fuck with them because they will retaliate hard.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, he bombed the hell out of Kiev.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not hard and it's pronounced.
Speaker 2:Kiev. That was his retaliation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not even the beginning of it. So, anyway, the point is, the one thing they didn't consider in that treaty, or when they agreed to that treaty, is what if you're already in a war with somebody and any act that they do in that war is just part of that war. It's not a new aggressive, hostile act that you can then go nuke them for. It is simply, you know, guerrilla tactics but still a part of that war. So it's uh, uh. I think I think the treaty is basically done at this point, because certainly russia will no longer be keeping their, their strategic bombers, uh, visible. They're all going to be hidden moving forward. Also, the actual way that Ukraine carried this out, I thought, was both hilarious and brilliant by using regular trucks with pallets on them with a fake roof and essentially it's right out of James Bond.
Speaker 2:Well, it tells me something. There's not a lot of border inspection happening.
Speaker 1:There's very little yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, going into Russia.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's definitely the case, you know. You talk about the US border.
Speaker 2:I bet that will change.
Speaker 1:I don't. I mean maybe they'll try.
Speaker 2:Are you saying Russians are lazy and easily bribed?
Speaker 1:Well, that too, but Russia has the longest border of any country in the world and not the largest population by any stretch. So guarding that border is impossible. It's literally impossible. You could guard sections of that border, you can have some inspections of vehicles, but you're never going to have full border security. And for a country that size it is literally physically impossible. Imagine if, instead of the atlantic and the pacific, us had other countries that were on its borders.
Speaker 2:I mean it'd be, it'd be a nightmare, because no, there's a reason why the us could probably take on the entirety of the rest of the world and win um, I mean, we'll seei.
Speaker 1:I think a very high scenario there is that the us just simply turns into los angeles, and we've we've reada book series that shows exactly that yeah by the way?
Speaker 2:did you see the what I put in the uh signal chat?
Speaker 1:no, I usually don't look at signal while we're recording, but I can make an effort to if you want me to I mean, jesus, that then you don't when I put stuff in your precious company. That's because I usually have my eyes closed when I'm recording a podcast oh my god, why.
Speaker 2:How could you possibly do that? That's it's.
Speaker 1:It makes it easier for me to focus on what we're talking about. Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:So have you seen the no Kings Day protest?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I just saw your picture of Trump with the black guy.
Speaker 2:Elon Musk, yes, and the baby fat, jd Vance.
Speaker 1:You saw JD's. I fucking love that guy man. I'm impressed you saw his post on x that day right like right away. No, so his post on x was a picture of him and um that hillbilly podcaster guy with the. I forget his name.
Speaker 2:You know who I'm talking about the comedian guy with the long um jesus. Yeah, I know you're talking about that guy, but yeah and and uh, they're sitting there.
Speaker 1:What looked like wearing shorts and drinking beer, but I'm sure they weren't. But uh, and then the tagline that he posted with is so it's a slow news day, so I figured I'd hang out here today. I mean, it was just perfect, fucking understated sense of humor. That both conveys that, yes, he knows that shit shit's flying everywhere but, also like he's one of the guys sitting with the popcorn yeah, yeah, yeah well I like jd vance.
Speaker 2:I think he will be the next president.
Speaker 1:I really think he is quickly getting ahead of Bill Clinton in my book of guys.
Speaker 2:I want to have a drink with why would you want to have a drink with Clinton?
Speaker 1:Clinton's been the number one alive president on my list who I would drink with.
Speaker 2:I've met Clinton. I haven't had a drink, for fuck's sake yes, so did I.
Speaker 1:Just well, I've met his bodyguards anyway, as they pushed me out out of the way. But um the uh he. He always seemed like the kind of guy that would have a bunch of funny dirty stories to tell and just he'd be a fun guy to hang with, regardless of politics. He was clearly the most fun of all the recent presidents. Okay. Everybody until Trump.
Speaker 2:I think he's definitely the most seductive of any of the presidents. Like when I shook his hand as much as I don't like his policies, I will tell you I felt like I was the only person in the room well, I don't want to go to sleep with him, but still that's not what I meant by seductive.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right well, you never know with you, but either way. Well, all I'm saying is that I have had this list since I was in high school of, like you know, of the living presidents who would I want, and it's just always been clinton.
Speaker 2:I've never had anybody else on it okay, so back to what I was saying before we went on this.
Speaker 1:Uh little but I like jd vance, he might replace clinton yeah, if he becomes president yeah, if he becomes president. So it's got an uphill battle here I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think he's got a pretty good shot. So there are two things that I sent you that I think are kind of interesting one matt wallace showing uh train tracks moving around dc, uh a shit ton of tanks. And then the other thing that I thought was interesting is this no king's day that they've got planned for the 14th, which?
Speaker 1:is next Saturday.
Speaker 2:It is a nationwide rise-up protest. Did you click on the link?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Click on the link Day of Defiance. I mean they've got locations all over the United States where they're saying that they're going to do this including Mexico and everything else. Yeah, no, king's Day Town Hall Register. Now you know and look at who's going to be speaking.
Speaker 1:Like there's a lot of stuff that's coming Mexico and Cuba labeled, but no United States.
Speaker 2:Yep Anyway. So I don't know, man, we might have some very interesting false flags, uh, coming on well, isn't that a good?
Speaker 1:would that be a good thing, though, because they'd be false legs for our side no, but look I.
Speaker 2:All I can tell you is I don't see any way out of a civil war you know, part of what I sent to you earlier was a you know we already talked about a little bit. You know pat buchanan talking about he sees four americas I think there's probably more than that and then ray dalio coming out and talking about that, like we are. I think what we see in la, what we see being planned, uh, for around the country this saturday, coming to a place near you, we got to pay attention to because it this is very much how this ends up being a civil war.
Speaker 1:So yeah, okay, um, like, what does that change, though?
Speaker 2:I mean, you carry everything anyway well, I'm going to mexico next week and I can't, so that's what that changes yeah, but mexico isn't gonna have a civil war yeah, but I hope I can fly back to the united states oh, you'll be able to at least walk through the board. Oh, that's right, they closed the border and I'm not gonna walk from cancunun to Texas. I read a book about that, yeah, especially when I can't carry through cartel country this does not sound fun to me.
Speaker 1:Cartel country.
Speaker 2:You mean? Mexico. It has a name damn it, it's not the Gulf of Cartel. God damn it. It should be.
Speaker 1:Oh God damn, yeah, sure, god damn it. It should be. Oh god damn, yeah, sure it's interesting. I, I think ultimately nothing's gonna change. Uh, we'll see little eruptions here and there. Um, I think also, anyone that expected trump coming in for his second term to have a mostly peaceful second term is nuts. Obviously, there was going to be an insane amount of pushback from Democrats. I certainly expected it.
Speaker 2:We haven't really seen it yet, though.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah him sending troops for the first time in this century yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, you know, we'll see, we'll see how it? Turns out. We'll see tonight. You know how they respond. You know the Marines are now getting involved.
Speaker 1:By the way, that's a stupid cartoon you just sent me. No, it's not.
Speaker 2:It perfectly illustrates the truth of the Internet?
Speaker 1:Nobody from John X believes the Internet. We, unlike you all, were around before the Internet and know how to use our heads for things without the internet. It says everything. An AI says no, no, no.
Speaker 2:Boomers and Gen X believe everything an AI says. It's the three-headed dragon meme, with the retarded faces being the boomers and gen x and gen, then gen z, and the only ones who are sharpers. The millennials condition to distrust everything on the internet yeah, it's, it's literally backwards.
Speaker 1:The millennials are literally the fucked up generation. The gen z's are starting to get tired of it and the uh, the gen xers have never believed any of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gen xers are getting uh passed over for millennials exactly because we're too smart uh-huh, uh-huh nobody wants that much smartness all at once, oh well, I am, you know, I am of the elder millennial generation. That, uh, is very different than what people think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's called Gen X.
Speaker 2:I am clearly not Gen X dude.
Speaker 1:You're a hell of a lot more Gen X than you think you are. Yeah, you would not fit in with most of your cohort.
Speaker 2:No, no, I don't Very much, so All right, well, what else you got? So we got LA riots, we got Civil War, we got the Trump stuff.
Speaker 1:The Trump-Musk stuff was fascinating. Do you have any comments on the whole quadcopter thing? I mean, talk a little more about that.
Speaker 2:First of all, I don't see how Russia doesn't retaliate and, quite frankly, I think this was greenlit under the O'Biden, o'biden, the Biden administration.
Speaker 1:It was the O'Biden. You're right about that. That's who was actually running things.
Speaker 2:So I think this was Biden, and I think when the Trump admin got in, no one told him about it, otherwise I think Trump would have stopped it.
Speaker 1:Well, it had to be current, recent satellite data. I mean, I guess the Brits get it from us anyway and they could share it without our knowledge, but I think that would have some penalties.
Speaker 2:So more than likely it was actually us data coming from the us well, except they know where these are generally put and they know how to hit them, because they have these planes in yeah, the, you know, in ukraine yeah yeah, so we will. We will see what comes out of it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the one the most interesting bit for me got passed over in all the us media. But if you watch world media, you'd find out that china has banned sales of dji drones and parts. Most importantly, now for europe yeah yep which is congratulations, ukraine. One more thing you fucked up for the rest of Europe.
Speaker 2:But you know what's going to happen when Russia truly decides to retaliate. How is that going to go? Right, because Zelensky immediately came out after this attack. Oh, we want a ceasefire. We want a ceasefire. We're calling for a ceasefire. Yeah, uh-huh, yeah, that's not how that works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, that's not how that works today. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, it's. Imagine. Well, no, it's not even going to go there, but okay, I'll go there. Imagine somebody using a nuke and then immediately calling for a ceasefire right after. How well is that going to fly for any country? Oh, okay, okay, we're done. We're done, we got ours off. We surrender. So the one last thing about DJI I want to mention.
Speaker 2:How many planes do you think were actually destroyed, though?
Speaker 1:Well destroyed is a tough word. Someone will be irreparably damaged because they're old. Some of them will be repaired, but they hit 44.
Speaker 2:I mean, I've heard that from the russian sources so russia's officially saying 20, I think so let's say they have 20 half of their fleet of their. You know the problem that what really may pisses me off at ukraine for doing this is the odds of r Russia using nukes on Ukraine. Just went through the roof.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they probably rose as a result of that.
Speaker 2:yeah, You're attacking something that is part of Russia's nuclear deterrence Against everybody, like the US.
Speaker 1:You're effectively inviting the US to do a first strike is what you're doing like come on guys, we took, we took their fence down. Now you go and rush them that's kind of what it what it would be seen from russia's standpoint, as it's like they got ukraine to take down the fence so that they can now rush in.
Speaker 1:Uh, but the last bit about DJIs most people keep hearing over and over in the news. Like Ukrainian drones, ukrainian drone industry, they're built in Ukraine. They're not built in Ukraine. What they do is assemble them from parts and fit things like explosives, timers and detonators on them, but they're all buying off the shelf DJI parts and that's what's coming to an end.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I guarantee you that this is going to uh change the way uh people look at it. Did you see the army guys on uh on the onset podcast this last week?
Speaker 1:I saw some of them. What bit were you referring to?
Speaker 2:just, they were talking about some of the new kit and the new direction that the army is going to based off of this, yeah, based off what they're learning from this war yeah, I think everybody's watching and that's a I.
Speaker 1:I mentioned this to a few people as well. I think that, aside from the fact that we're literally killing thousands of men but if you gloss over that part this war has been an awesome learning opportunity for every country. Everybody is getting to see what works, what doesn't work, what technology is going to backstop against other technology. Is it important for actual humans to be involved or not important? Is it important for actual humans to be involved or not important? And what we're finding is a slow transition to a drone slash, robot based warfare, and everybody knows that robots against people, the people die.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's one of the things they were talking about, you know, like using a breaching robot and how that could be done versus sending a human in. They were talking about the new version of the m1a abram. Uh, the m1 abrams um having an autonomous version of it, because they're putting an auto loader in the abrams now, uh, which it'll be interesting to see because that's one of the deficiencies in the russian tank. You know, if you hit that turret and the auto loader cooks off the ammunition, then everybody in the tank dies.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, it's good tech. What we're also going to start seeing is an evolution of anti-autonomous vehicle tech, which so far is just nascent.
Speaker 2:Well, actually they were talking about some of that. You know a the, you know the the um. The combat shotgun has definitely made a resurgence. Come back, yeah, you know, there's no doubt about that, because you know birdshot uh can take down a drone, absolutely, um, yeah you just better be far enough away that the blast from the explosion isn't going to kill you. Yeah, but the other thing that they are working on is high-powered microwaves. High-powered microwaves that are very directional.
Speaker 1:Yep and that's. These are all things that have been in the experimental phase. I think we're going to start seeing more countries ruling them out standard, so that'll happen in the US obviously as well. In a lot of ways, the US is actually learning more from watching what Russia responds with than they are from anything about the actual weapons used by Ukraine, because in the next war that the US is involved in, they will effectively be in Russia's shoes. It'll be a smaller scrappier, more guerrilla-type fighting using things like drones and robots to hit and run, whereas the US is more reliant on large troop movements with large bases of operations and all the logistics that come with that. So this has definitely been a tremendous learning experience, and I've got a couple of friends in the military that are still active that are definitely agreeing with what I'm saying right now.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's going to be interesting to see what they do, for this is something that I think is pretty interesting on how Trump and the admin are trying to cut budgets and the admin are trying to cut budgets, you know, like. Did you see the Chevy Tahoe thing that they are going to start replacing Humvees and stuff with? Did you see that on that podcast? No. So they're basically taking a Chevy Tahoe and putting a different body on it, but it is an off-the-shelf basic Chevy. Tahoe, that's a horrible idea why.
Speaker 1:Everybody knows that I, to be a Toyota, get a Hilux.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, American made.
Speaker 1:Make a Hilux in America and finally sell it here. That would be great, but everybody knows it's like the most insurmountable truck and the one used by 9 out of 10 guerrilla or insurgency groups is a Toyota Hilux.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so part of the reason why they wanted to do this is because they wanted for the airborne to be able to move around here. I'll send you a link. It's pretty neat. But some up armor, some not. What they can do with it, what they can't, being mobile, being able to drop this behind enemy lines and just do things differently.
Speaker 1:Dude, you could sell these things down anywhere in the southern states. I would fucking buy one in a heartbeat, of course, you would.
Speaker 2:Are you kidding me? It's very cool.
Speaker 1:It's basically a jeeped out, stripped body of a a uh chevy tahoe yeah, and and what I sent you.
Speaker 2:That's not the tahoe, when this one's the uh little truck. What's the little truck?
Speaker 1:colorado. Okay, it's the car, it's built off the colorado frame yeah.
Speaker 2:So anyway, I'm frame really damn yep, and the point is it's very light.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure I've ridden in something like this during a safari.
Speaker 2:Right, that's exactly what I'm thinking Now I do want the machine gun on the cupola up there.
Speaker 1:You don't want that. Yeah, you mean a binary trigger gun.
Speaker 2:No, Did you not see the news coming out of Kansas?
Speaker 1:No, what's going on? You forget that I was on vacation, not speaking English, for two weeks.
Speaker 2:So there was a case that came out of Kansas.
Speaker 1:Buddy Kansas.
Speaker 2:Was it Buddy Kansas? See, you do know what it was about.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Alright. Well, the Kansas judge threw out I'm dropping it in the chat the Kansas judge. So the AP headline is Kansas judge throws out machine gun possession charge.
Speaker 2:Cites second amendment yeah so we now have a pretty good case that is likely going to end up in the supreme court over like a clock switch and everything else involved here. So we've got some lower court decisions and you know he was applying bruin. This is like everything we've always said yeah, we already have the hush act, that like that is. I think suppressors are going to be legal here in just a few months.
Speaker 1:How funny would it be and filatos would be legal, but short barrel rifles yeah like well we have a limitation, but only on one thing in this country. That would be the length of your barrel. Yeah, only if you have a stock yeah like.
Speaker 2:But the point is there's been a lot of really good moves, a lot of good things going. Uh. It sucks that the supreme court didn't hear the uh, the assault weapons ban case, but at the same time they basically told the lower court um, you know, you have all the tools to make this decision and you should yeah, they're just.
Speaker 1:I wish there were less pussyfoots. I mean mean, I think Senator Thomas' dissent was exactly right.
Speaker 2:I think Trump needs to stack the court and he needs to say alright, clarence, who do you want on here?
Speaker 1:He's got less than two years to do it. He just put a deadline on himself with Musk, which was a stupid thing to do but he did it.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. Alright well, when we have a Democrat.
Speaker 1:Senate, which was a stupid thing to do. I don't think so. I don't think so, all right. Well, when we have a Democrat Senate and Democrat House, then I guess I'll tell you. I told you so.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't think Musk is going to do that, though. He will why he's against the woke mind virus dude and the Democrats are nothing but woke mind virus people right now.
Speaker 1:Here's how it's going to work. He's going to work is. He's going to basically start financially supporting and promoting centrists from both parties and they'll happen to be a couple of democrats that are centrist will end up being, uh, funded by him. That will swing the uh both houses over to the democrat side. It'll all be done in the name of centrism. We will see, oh, we will.
Speaker 1:But remember, this is only a week and a half old, not even it's like a week old, and I just, I just don't think trump realized the can of worms he was on getting into like this is so stupid. You take the richest dude who just got you the presidency, literally Like there's. Trump would not have won without Musk, and I don't care what he said about you or what he likes or doesn't like that politicians do. Who cares? Trump could have said the same thing. He literally could have echoed what Musk said and said you know, I really wish we could have cast a better bill. I really do.
Speaker 1:I want to sign the bill that Musk would be happy with, but this is the only bill we're going to get right now and this is better than the alternative, so I'm going to sign this one. That's all he had to do. He didn't need to get into a contest of dick swinging with Musk. To you know, show that, hey, I'm the president of the free world, I can do whatever I want. It's like no dude. You're going to get your wings clipped for a stupid reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1:We will, I just you know. I hope they figure out a way to make up before that happens, because if they don't but you already saw musk started a new party. What do you mean? Well, you didn't see yeah, he started a new political party yeah, what's it called?
Speaker 2:uh, america's party okay, that sounds a lot like the reform party and Party and he basically ran a poll on X.
Speaker 1:He says isn't it time, how do you not see this? Isn't it time for a political party to represent the 80% of us that aren't on either extreme? And he had 5 million people say yes.
Speaker 2:Selfgovernmentus, what's that America's Party? And he had 5 million people say yes, selfgovernmentus, what's that America's party?
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, there you go. Yeah, so he had over 5 million people in 24 hour period. 5 million people is about 10% of US voters.
Speaker 2:It's less than that.
Speaker 1:We had 80 million people vote in the last election, did we really?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was 80 something.
Speaker 1:Okay, so then it's like 8%. The point is you try and get 8% of the population to agree on something in one day, in 24 hour period.
Speaker 2:And, by the way, this has been the America's party and selfgovernmentus has been around since like a while.
Speaker 1:Maybe I've got the name wrong then, because he just created like two days ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it says Elon set to launch new America party. New America party. There you go. That's what it is. It's not America's party, it launch new America party.
Speaker 1:New America party. There you go. That's what it is. It's not America's party, it's new America party. I don't have the word America in there, but the point is it's like no, this is not a joke, this is not a meme. This is what you get when you fuck with Elon you get to lose the next election.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's. He's talked about this, but he hasn't actually done it yet.
Speaker 1:There is no party called that.
Speaker 2:Well again, five million people on X said yes, we need this, yeah that, or you know, elon decided to Put his finger on the scale to make sure. Do you think Elon needs to do that? I do, man. I don't know. I just don't see this feud the way you do, and I think we've spent a lot of time talking about it, but I don't know. I still hope mommy and daddy are not fighting. I hope they make up.
Speaker 1:Just stop texting both of you, just stop for like a week.
Speaker 2:Good luck, yeah, um um, oh my God, I'm sorry, I just saw a joke. Uh, hey Jean, hmm, did you know? Uh, coffee's actually biblical. Oh, yeah, yeah, hebrews it probably is a brand called hebrews coffee um, oh, yeah, anyway, sorry, sorry, I just had to make the juke joke um, yeah, so, um, here's a a thought 70, so 76.9 million, 76.9 million people voted.
Speaker 1:You're right about that. But the difference between the trump versus oh, this is not the right number. Come on, bbc, give me the correct numbers there, let's try that. Come on, dude, this frickin'. Do I go to wikipedia to get this answer? I'm trying to find out how many votes did trump win by? Uh, probably a few hundred thousand yeah well, it's saying 268 000, but it's got to be more than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, it's saying 268 000, but it's got to be more than that, because he talks about having a mandate. Well, I mean, he won the popular vote and the mandate is that he won the popular vote and the electoral college.
Speaker 1:Like he won both, that's considered I'm gonna ask ai, because it always sells the truth. Oh my god, all right. The total margin of victory for trump was 760 000 votes. 760 000 votes is roughly eight times less than the number of people that said that we need a new party okay you don't think?
Speaker 2:I think that those people probably a bunch of them do not vote.
Speaker 1:You think?
Speaker 2:people in Mexico vote, are you?
Speaker 1:insane. This is the most voting type of group of people of anywhere. Oh please, X people absolutely vote. They live for politics, dude. There's not much else going on on X, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:There's tons going on on X that there's very little.
Speaker 1:I keep posting pictures of bears and cats and stuff and nobody likes them.
Speaker 2:Uh well, right, but you know, you even see my cat postings?
Speaker 1:fuck, no, I don't follow you there. You go there. It proves my point. So my again, I'm just saying obviously this is like the worst case scenario, but it is very believable statistically speaking that musk could have enough of an influence to make the republicans lose the next election sure he does ross perot his way right in there sure, if he does that, well, I mean he can't because he can't run, but yeah but he doesn't have to run, he just has to get people to vote for somebody else.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's that hard. Pick some bad republicans, run some democrat centrists against them and boom, you flip both houses. Yeah. Because that's what billionaires do. They've got everything else. They've had the money to buy everything else. The only thing left is to play games with each other.
Speaker 2:Okay, by the way, did you watch the new Clarkson's Farm?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did, it was great.
Speaker 2:I had to finish the last episode.
Speaker 1:Oh, they opened the pub. You haven't missed anything. It was my on-the-plane viewing. It was great. I must admit, the one thing about watching that show every time I watch it is I get a hankering to go play Farm Sim Okay, which I'm sure you've never played.
Speaker 2:But Now, why would I play Farm Sim?
Speaker 1:A lot of people enjoy Farm Sim that have done some farming in real life. It is probably the most realistic farming simulator game ever created. If you had some television. It would be completely realistic.
Speaker 2:I just don't know why anyone would do that.
Speaker 1:Fair enough. I mean American Truck Sim definitely keeps a lot of the crowd away, but sometimes you just feel like farming.
Speaker 2:This is the gadget that I just bought.
Speaker 3:So I bought a 22 year old woman go down one gene oh sorry, down one whoops.
Speaker 1:The truth comes out about ben and his erection. That won't go down. Well, I mean. If I mean you gotta mention these things, dude, you bought a woman, then the truth comes out about Ben and his erection that won't go down. Well, I mean, if I mean, you got to mention these things, dude. You bought a woman and therefore obviously you got an erection. That's how it works.
Speaker 2:Dude, I was taking a drink and I almost lost it on my monitor. So, okay, no, there is so. I don't even know how you say this brand, but Arzopa. All right.
Speaker 1:don't even know how you say this brand, but um our zopa, all right our zopa portable monitor 16 literally what I'm looking at, uh of your text right now yeah, so it's.
Speaker 2:Uh, it was on sale for 70 something dollars I think I paid 129 for it yeah, yeah, it's pretty cheap.
Speaker 1:So right now it's still on sale for 81.
Speaker 2:But how do you how?
Speaker 1:it's a 16 inch monitor retail for 81, how I, I don't know there's, there's no money there I don't know, but it's I'll tell you I used it today it's nice, it's very lightweight, yeah yeah, I've got it.
Speaker 1:I bought it as a a second monitor for my laptop yeah, that's what I got it for for work however, after I plugged it in, I quickly realized I'm gonna keep this fucker for my gaming machine and add a fourth monitor. Why? Because I need more oh, my god, I need. Well, I've got six screens plugged in right now, yeah, so it's just barely enough for activities. Um, so you know? I mean, look, I can write legal contracts all day long on a laptop screen, but I can't be playing games on that well, I mean so for me, just when I'm traveling, if I've got a big spreadsheet or anything.
Speaker 2:Having secondary monitors is nice.
Speaker 1:So the only downside is sometimes an upside on this thing, which is it's not glossy, it's matte, right, which some people really like. I've always preferred glossy monitors.
Speaker 2:I don't know why?
Speaker 1:but okay or deeper blacks.
Speaker 2:Dude again, this is not a. This is not a toy.
Speaker 1:This is not a toy, this is for work you keep saying that, like it means something, I know to you, it doesn't but I'll tell you what was shocking to me. Okay, not only is this a super cheap 60 inch monitor uh-huh it runs at 144 hertz yeah, yeah, like I was when I saw this I was like holy shit, why is this so cheap?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, and then you can. It'll be a usbc monitor or usba acmi doesn't do whatever it'll chew it all in.
Speaker 1:But, like my, my main monitor, which is 144 hertz, was $1,000. That's a little bigger than this, obviously, but this thing is crazy cheap for what it does. So you realize now that we've talked about it. If the link to this isn't included in the show notes, CSB will comment about it.
Speaker 2:Yes, csb, all right. Well, let me grab you an affiliate link.
Speaker 1:So, I can at least get something for that. Well, I keep reminding you, because if I link it, it won't have affiliates, it'll just have a normal link I gotta I gotta be better about that anyway this is the if you don't have. This is the z1c 100 are uh if you don't have one, I'm pretty sure that amazon has an extension that will take whatever page you're looking at and turn it into a affiliate link for you yeah, they, they do it in the app.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh, but I don't have that extension installed on this browser, so okay well, I'm going to do it from my phone, all right, while I'm thinking about it, before we get off the topic, otherwise it won't happen. And then yeah, and then uh, csb will be. Uh, why are?
Speaker 1:you still? I mean it'll be a link to a us amazon site, then it's probably not available in europe or something, so you know darren darren, buy this monitor and ship it to me. Man that was. I can't believe it wasn't CSB the way you said. That was just right. So spot on Using Darren for some utility.
Speaker 2:Right? Well, he dropped out of our group today. Who did, darren?
Speaker 1:I'm going to re-invite him. He's not allowed to drop out. He created the damn thing. He's not allowed to drop out. He created the damn thing. He's not allowed to leave.
Speaker 2:Good luck.
Speaker 1:I left when I saw a message by somebody I didn't know who that was. I'm like, yeah, and I didn't know who the guy you invited was either. So what, I don't care.
Speaker 2:Alrighty, oh cool, what else we got, gene.
Speaker 1:I think that's about it. I can't think of anything else.
Speaker 2:And you no, we're just a little short. We're going to have to get back into it.
Speaker 1:I guess we just don't have two hours in us. We're going to have to stop a minute and a half early. My timer shows something different, but okay your timer is usually off, so that's all good. Yeah, it's all good, guys. So we're back, at least for a while here, until we one of us has to do some traveling, so thanks to once again to the eight people that send us some cashola. Well, Well, not really cash, but you you pay the bill for hosting the podcast and whatnot.
Speaker 2:And I will say we're going to have to figure out. Uh, either waiting until I get back or doing a podcast early, not this coming weekend, not the next weekend, but probably the weekend after that, because the week of the 23rd some point in time, I'm going to Puerto Rico and I'm going to stay over the weekend so I can explore and do something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got lots of friends there.
Speaker 2:Who knows, maybe we'll be doing the podcast from Puerto Rico, but I don't know That'd be fun.
Speaker 1:Got a lot more expenses than it used to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, the company I'm doing work for is cheap, so so you're staying in a cheap hotel?
Speaker 1:Oh fuck no. Okay, you renting a B&B.
Speaker 2:No, I'm staying in a Marriott. I'm staying in a nice Marriott. Okay, good, they can be cheap all they want. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing that. Good job, Hi guys with.
