Recent Travels and Family Celebrations

Speaker 1 0:25

Howdy Ben, how are you today? Oh, Gene, I'm glad to be not traveling for a week.

Speaker 2 0:32

Yeah, well, that's good. Were you traveling a lot last week?

Speaker 1 0:34

Last week I was in Alabama, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 0:38

That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 1 0:40

Yeah, actually I did go to the Huntsville thing, but I was there to speak at a conference that Auburn was putting on. They've got an annex up there. Okay, they had to deal with an aggie gotcha did you get?

Speaker 2 0:55

uh, you were. You were set free there. They didn't keep you in jail too long no, I behaved. I behaved for the most part you didn't steal any bulldogs or anything huntsville is kind of a neat little town it is. I think it's a town most people don't realize is in alabama well, I mean, the downtown area is very rejuvenated.

Speaker 1 1:21

They've done a lot, some good food there. I had something I'd never had. I had a collard green spring roll oh, I've never had that either. It was delicious, so think of collard greens with the ham and everything in there wrapped up into a spring roll and then fried you know I I think a lot of things in spring roll form are damn tasty.

Speaker 1 1:45

I've had like philly cheese steaks and spring roll for them and those are very good oh yeah, there's a lot you can do, but anyway, now I was in huntsville and it was a good little trip. The my flight back was delayed two hours. Though I hate that, yeah, it is what it is so yeah, anyway pain in the butt is what it is. So you said we have a lot to talk about.

Speaker 2 2:12

Well, I, I've been running around working so. I ran into you at a birthday party.

Speaker 1 2:18

Yeah, my mom's 80th. Yeah, exactly which was very and it was a pretty good party.

Speaker 2 2:24

It was a great party. It was a huge party first of all, Massive size party. It was a huge party, first of all.

Speaker 1 2:29

Massive-sized party. Yeah, a lot of family. We had family in from Alabama and Louisiana actually in Mississippi, idaho, yep, there was live music going. Yep, my Uncle Tommy.

Speaker 2 2:43

He was a very good singer. He does pretty good. Yeah, he's quite good.

Speaker 1 2:49

And we had some pulled pork pork and we had uh shrimp boil and some crab pulled pork was very good.

Speaker 2 2:55

Didn't taste the crab, but the pulled pork was very good oh, it was good uh we know how to do it good together very good.

Speaker 2 3:04

Yeah, got to spend a lot of time talking to your dad about you. That was good, uh-oh, no, no, I. I like your dad. He's kind of a quiet guy, but when you kind of pry open, you know a topic and get him to start talking about it, he's got some good stories he's a quiet guy until he's not exactly, exactly. Well, I tell you, one thing he did not want to talk about was his boat.

Speaker 1 3:30

Oh, no yeah.

Speaker 2 3:32

I kind of sensed that pretty quick.

Speaker 1 3:34

Still, even though it's 30 years later, it's still a sore subject.

Speaker 2 3:38

Yeah, yeah, it's too bad, but yeah, it was a good time. I think you know your mom enjoyed it, yeah, she had fun I know it.

Speaker 2 3:48

yeah, she had, she had fun so I know I think I think everybody did and you got to meet a friend of mine that I've known since literally hours after I was born yeah, yeah, talk about how she's senior pp we used to take baths together, which, by the way, that just incensed oh, your wife, yeah, yeah, no kidding, I thought it was pretty damn funny I yeah, yeah, we all have stories he has definitely got a flirty type personality and she's trying to get on our podcast it's like we don't do guests no, I told her that like nah, not that kind of podcast.

Speaker 1 4:32

We don't run an OnlyFans, so sorry. Oh good God, no comments. Oh man, well. But on the news front, other than that, what do we want to?

Speaker 2 4:46

talk about? I mean, I got some video game news, obviously, but no we can talk about real news first.

Speaker 1 4:53

Well, it looks like Trump's going to send troops to Chicago, potentially.

Speaker 2 4:58

Yeah, I've been waiting on that. It sounded like it was going to happen last week and it didn't Kind of bummed about that. I was hoping it would have already.

Speaker 1 5:08

Well, I think he's waiting for them to say yes, you know, I think he wants their acquiescence not to just do it. Because really to do it legally he would need to either have the governor or mayor some local request or no, he doesn't.

Puerto Rico Trip Observations

Speaker 2 5:26

He just needs to go there and take over the damn town, like he should a long time ago. Well, or he can't. He just needs to go there and take over the damn town, like he should a long time ago well, or he can do the insurrection act yeah, and then unseat the mayor, unseat the governor, redistrict illinois to be what it should be, and then we'll get another conservative state out of it which would just and he could do that next week.

Speaker 1 5:44

All those, which would be hilarious in so many ways it would be. It'd be but, I don't want him to do that because screams Lincoln to me.

Speaker 2 5:53

So yeah, fair enough, but I think Lincoln set the precedent for this.

Speaker 1 5:57

It was never pushed back against by the Supreme court, so actually it was affirmed by Congress and the Supreme court, which is just terrifying and exactly.

Speaker 2 6:05

So, look, you can stand on principles or you can move forward, not letting the other guys do shit that you're not willing to do. Remember no rules in war. I've said that a lot of times.

Speaker 1 6:17

So far, the troops in DC have been very successful and not had any issues.

Speaker 2 6:23

Yeah, I hope they got them nice places to stay, maybe the hotels that the illegals used to stay at, because the last time troops were in DC they were sleeping on the floor.

Speaker 1 6:32

That's bullshit yeah, yeah, oh. And the other thing we need to talk about, too, is my puerto rico trip too.

Speaker 2 6:39

We haven't talked since then. I forgot about that. Oh yeah, you went down a nice vacation down there together uh, it was not a vacation, dude.

Speaker 1 6:46

I was all over that island I bet you were. Yeah, but San Juan is neat, yeah. Like I am kind of shocked how it felt like I should have gone through passport control.

Speaker 2 6:59

Oh, yeah, sure, yeah, it's all Espanol and everything.

Speaker 1 7:04

Yeah, yeah, which you know. No, it's Spanglish dude, it is not Spanish, it is. Spanglish. First of all, they talk very fast.

Speaker 2 7:11

Okay.

Speaker 1 7:12

And then, second of all, I'm tracking, I'm tracking, I'm tracking. Wait, what the hell is that word? And then I finally realized they were saying an English word with Spanish pronunciation. So it's like what?

Speaker 2 7:27

That's funny, yeah I had a lot of offers to go out there. I've probably had three people I know that were successful entrepreneurs out of Austin that have moved there for tax reasons and they're like, yeah, just let us know, come out and stay. And I haven't done it because mostly I haven't had a good reason to go there to go there.

Speaker 1 7:55

Well, and really it is. It reminded me a lot of spain and a lot of the architecture and stuff in old san juan because it's spanish, got to see some of the forts and stuff like that. That was cool but one of the things that just strikes me is how stupidly that territory is run.

Speaker 2 8:08

So it's locally managed, isn't it? Yes, yeah, that's the problem right there.

Speaker 1 8:12

Come out again there, bring the troops in fire everybody and redo it. Hold on. I flat out told people while I was there we need to just conquer y'all, and they kind of looked at me and said they belong to us in the first place. But I said y'all are using the fucking metric system. We got to get you off of that in the fucking metric system.

Speaker 2 8:27

We've got to get you off of that.

Speaker 1 8:27

You need to learn English. Oh my God, yeah, the speed limits, everything, are posted in kilometers. Oh Jesus, but here's the fucked up thing that I didn't realize. Yeah, so Puerto Rico has to import everything? Oh yeah, yeah, I knew that. Like there is no oil and gas there, is no refining there is no, the electrical infrastructure is bullshit down there.

Speaker 1 8:47

Hold on, they have all those trees. They have nothing but jungle and rainforest, right yeah, no local lumber industry, none. So anytime there's a hurricane and shit happens they're pulling in building materials from the United States and with the Jones Act it has to be US flagged and manned vessels to bring that in. So it's extremely expensive. The only thing cheap there was alcohol.

Speaker 2 9:16

Well, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 9:20

Yeah, if you like rum.

Speaker 2 9:21

Yeah, if you like the pina coladas, absolutely.

Speaker 1 9:23

Ugh, no dreck Anyway, but it was a neat trip. Got to see a lot, got to talk to some pretty high up people in the administration and everything else and I did a four and a half hour talk for a group there In Spanish. Wow, that's impressive. No, it was in English, oh God. But a four and a half hour talk on cybersecurity and training and why this is different and why you need to pay attention.

Speaker 2 9:51

You totally do, that's true. Are they bilingual down there or not really.

Speaker 1 9:56

It varies wildly. Some people are, some people aren't.

Speaker 2 10:00

Because they can travel anywhere in the US too. They have a US passport.

Speaker 1 10:04

Yeah, there are more Puerto Ricans living outside of Puerto Rico than in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 10:10

So it's like Israel.

Speaker 1 10:12

Yes, there's a diaspora.

Speaker 2 10:15

That's hilarious. It's only a four and a half hour flight from Houston dude.

Speaker 1 10:20

It's an easy one.

Speaker 2 10:22

How many hours?

Speaker 1 10:23

Four and a half.

Speaker 2 10:24

That's closer than Seattle.

Speaker 1 10:27

Right Yep.

Trump's Potential Military Action in Chicago

Speaker 2 10:37

I'll tell you. The one that is always a shocker to me is just how close Cancun is. Yeah, three hours. No, it's like two and a half. From Austin, it is super close. Direct flight straight south, yep, right over the Gulf. It feels like I'm barely in the air longer than I am flying to freaking dfw. It's a very short flight. Another one that's actually surprisingly short is flying down to cabo, which is a little bit longer. It's about three, but I like three and a quarter hours, it's not even three and a half. And you're all the way. The tippy tip of Mexico there on the west side. Cool, which now you'll be able to go there with your crazy ass. Purchase of a timeshare.

Speaker 2 11:23

It's not crazy For all the people at Bottom Sea.

Speaker 1 11:33

Actually the Marriott timeshare stuff has a lot of pretty good reviews and the fact that you can bank it and do it with other hotel brands on third-party markets and all like it's not your grandma's timeshare no, I'd have one if it was my grandma's.

Speaker 2 11:46

No, she's smart enough not to buy one.

Speaker 1 11:49

Okay, so did you watch the RFK hearing?

Speaker 2 11:54

I did not watch anything. All I've gotten is headlines on X for any story. So don't ask me if I know any details, because I won't.

Speaker 1 12:03

Well, the RFK hearing like they lambasted him. All the sound bites that are being reported are of attacks against him, but when you actually listen to what he had to say, he did fantastic Well that's good, that's good. Yeah, he's a Democrat, but I don't mind him.

Speaker 2 12:32

I mean, he's what a democrat used to be exactly, exactly so. Is there any more to that? Or just they lambasted him?

Speaker 1 12:44

they're trying to get rid of him. He's going after big pharma. All this nonsense about you know, taking off the, the covid vaccine, from being a recommended. You know, changing the recommendations has everybody apoplectic there's no such thing as covid.

Speaker 2 13:01

There's more and more videos showing that there never was a covid.

Speaker 1 13:04

It doesn't, literally doesn't exist I, I agree, and I shared some of the videos that you sent to other people and source and I'm like look at the flu deaths. This makes complete and total sense.

Speaker 2 13:16

Yeah, exactly, and I was saying that during the time it was happening. I just didn't have any evidence. So people were like where's your evidence from? I'm like, well, how can flu entirely disappear? And a brand new thing have the same number of people that are infected as flu used to infect them?

Speaker 1 13:33

Well, I mean, there are more deaths listed as a result of COVID than normal flu deaths.

Speaker 2 13:40

Well, of course, my mom is listed as a result of COVID and she had a stroke.

Speaker 1 13:45

That's my entire point. People, and this is the differentiator. There were people who died with covid exactly of covid.

Speaker 2 13:52

That's exactly it. Yep, yep. So it's a crazy thing. I just it was clearly a test run to see how well people just behave when they're put in cages, that's all well, I did not do so.

Speaker 2 14:12

Well so, no, you failed uh well, failed or succeeded depends on your perspective yes, yes, you failed indoctrination indeed no, but uh, no, that's true, and look, it's that there may very well have been a variant of flu that was more harsh than other previous variants of flu, and especially since they escaped the lab and it was a man-made version of the flu, but at the same time we didn't have some new novel bat disease, like they were claiming right, and there are reports out of France. We didn't have some new novel bat disease like they were claiming Right.

Speaker 1 14:53

And there are reports out of France that were saying or the pangolin or whatever.

Speaker 2 14:55

Yeah, leave the damn pangolins alone, man, they're cute little critters.

Speaker 1 14:59

I still think South Park's origin story for COVID is most likely to be true.

Speaker 2 15:05

I'm sure you do. I don't know why we don't have pangolins as pets, because I think they would make awesome pets. Why would a pangolin make what? Because they're cute as hell. They walk on their hind legs. They hold their front legs up. When they walk on their hind legs they're balanced weight-wise, right in the middle of their body with their tail. They have a very simple diet, easy to feed them. I just think they're cool little critters that ought to be pets. I think a lot of animals should be pets. I think it's stupid as hell that we don't have raccoons as normal pets, because raccoons are basically you and Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 1 15:45

really love those pangolins.

Speaker 2 15:48

Yes, pangolins are awesome, but so are raccoons. Let's not forget raccoons. You have kids dressing up as the coon for halloween. I mean raccoons as pets just make a lot of sense in general yeah, what's cute, he's a raccoon.

Speaker 1 16:12

He's, you know, smart ass raccoon yeah, so in other news, the us navy sunk a cartel ship so yeah, tell me more, because all I got was the headline so the us navy? There was a drug boat coming out of argentina yeah, alleged drug boat yeah yeah, and they fired upon it right and maduro came out and, first of all, he created a new militia, right a million people strong yeah, and it's like what are you going to do, dude?

Speaker 2 16:45

yeah, like, really, come on I heard they flew a couple of planes over our ship as well yeah, yeah, and we all know what happens when somebody touches america's boats, right? This is not a.

Speaker 1 16:59

This is not a smart move no but no, mandiro, he, he said it was an act of war and it's like wait, it's a cartel. Is it a cartel boat, or was it your boat, or is there?

Speaker 2 17:10

any difference, or is there any difference, exactly right?

Speaker 1 17:13

Right. So it's just, it's an effed up scenario. I don't want us being policing, but if we're going to police then let's do it in our own common, and that exactly.

Speaker 2 17:24

If we're going to police which I don't want us to do either At least do it in frickin' America and not the Middle East.

Speaker 1 17:30

Exactly, and where there is a legitimate drug problem and there's a legitimacy issue with Maduro and his election, and you know there's a reason here, absolutely.

Speaker 2 17:45

What else? Well, I don't know, so absolutely.

Speaker 1 17:50

What else? Well, I I don't know.

Speaker 2 17:57

First naval engagement in North America in a long time, I think is fairly significant, I mean sure, if you call that a naval engagement, but okay.

Speaker 1 18:04

Oh I, I just you know, the entire country of Argentina is apoplectic, or Maduro is apoplectic over a couple of cruisers and a destroyer.

Speaker 2 18:17

Right.

Speaker 1 18:20

Did you see the Habitual Linecrosser has had some really good stuff lately. By the way, I don't know if you've watched any of his videos. A couple I think he's funny.

Speaker 2 18:32

Did you watch the Chinese anniversary military parade?

Speaker 1 18:37

I saw parts of that that was interesting.

Speaker 2 18:41

Yeah, I miss those man. I wish we did more military parades. I know I wish we could have one on a regular basis a few times a year, I think it's. I know I wish we'd have one on the regular basis a few times a year because I think it's. You know, back when I was a little kid, boys played with toy soldiers and boys wanted to grow up and join the military my son does and then the military wouldn't take them until they lost a few pounds of weight.

COVID Skepticism and RFK Hearing

Speaker 2 19:07

So boys got sad and decided not to be in the military instead, but it's still. It's one of those things where I think having more of a reverence for even peacetime military is good for society, because the truth we all know is pretty fucking brutal. You know it's. It helps when you're sitting and flying a drone in vegas instead of being out in the field, but somebody's son is getting droned to death and that's not fun and this is where robert e lee's quote comes in.

Speaker 1 19:44

It is a good thing war is so horrible, otherwise men would love it too much. That's probably true.

Speaker 2 19:50

That's a very good quote. That's a smart one.

Speaker 1 19:53

And the reality is the reason, you know, and I had this argument with someone, in my travels about. Someone said something about toxic masculinity.

Speaker 2 20:04

I said we don't have toxic masculinity. I would smack the crap out of that person.

Speaker 1 20:07

Well, I said we don't have toxic masculinity, we have toxic femininity. And they said what? And I said think about it. Toxic masculinity is Genghis Khan. Toxic masculinity is going, raping, pillaging. It is war. That's toxic masculinity. We don't have that. What we do have is a bunch of little boys who are raised by single moms, who are raised by single moms, and and when they go to school, most of their teachers are very, very feminine.

Speaker 2 20:36

Put it that way yeah, they're either women or gays. Yep, that's all true, man so toxic.

Speaker 1 20:46

Femininity, not masculinity.

Speaker 2 20:50

Yeah, it's called estrogen and I don't know why you need to refer to it by a different name. No men benefit from being surrounded by too much estrogen. I don't care if it's your wife, your mother or your kids. If you have too much estrogen, it clouds the part of your brain that handles logical thinking and you start thinking with your emotions, like a woman does, and that's why we need to repeal the 19th. Yeah, got that in. Got it on the bingo card for anyone listening.

Speaker 1 21:51

Oh my god, I'm scrolling through X's. We're talking just seeing if there's anything new coming up there's a meme that just popped up here and it's just a white, you know, with text and says I choked on my sandwich today. Nipples got hard. I'm worried about myself. I find that so funny. No, I, wow, I find that so funny. No, I, we have a lot going on in the world and we have a lot changing here. I'm seeing more and more of people coming out and, like I see more and more confederate stuff on x.

Speaker 1 22:33

I think this is a good thing. Yep, I see the bases being renamed again. This is a good thing. I see lots of positive changes. I just uh wish we could uh get certain things out yeah, yeah, I, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 22:57

But you realize also, when things like that happen, it kind of puts on the back burner to hold Texas independence movement. It does, it does. So that's the trade-off. It's like when times are really bad, everyone's starting to go. Well, maybe we should. But when things are kind of getting back to normal, people are like, well, you know, we're Americans, right? No, we're Texans, damn it.

Speaker 1 23:19

Well, saying you're American should be like saying you're European.

Speaker 2 23:22

Yeah, everyone's American, even the natives, okay.

Speaker 1 23:30

Get it.

Speaker 2 23:31

Yes, it's a little joke I just made up there, all right, yeah, ha, ha ha good good, that was it. That was what I was expecting to hear. Good, so I sent you a, an image of a screen cap of a game and I kind of referred to as the ak builder simulator.

Speaker 1 23:49

Yeah, yeah, or not just ak, but basically, it's a gunsmith simulator referred to as the AK Builder Simulator. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 23:53

Not just AK, but basically it's a gunsmith simulator. What game is this? The game is called Grey Zone. I think I mentioned it once before. It's actually a very good, very realistic, bordering on downright simulation, first-person shooter. It's for people that need a reference. It's the closest game to this was the first version of america's army, which was a public relations game created for the us military as a recruiting tool. I remember that, yeah, which was an awesome game, because that had what most games of military stuff like battlefield and call of duty didn't, which was realistic damage model.

Speaker 2 24:43

So if you have a grenade that explodes within 25 yards of you, you may not be hurt, but you won't hear anything out of your left ear, and so that left channel was muted until the next session. You know, if you get hit with a rifle round, it doesn't just like give you, oh, 20% damage, it actually could take you out of battle because you can't use your right arm anymore because that's what got hit. So this game is very similar, but of course it's 20 years later, so they can do a lot more. And so in this game you don't just hit a button to heal, you have to carry a full medical kit with everything from gauze to bandages, to splints, to a, a trauma kit, for, you know, sewing people up if they have organ damage, yeah, you have to actually have an ifac yeah, exactly, and so your, your, your damage is shown on you, shown on a body view of basically your skeleton and organs, of where you got hit and what was damaged and what can you treat.

Speaker 2 26:02

And meanwhile, while the person is still like they're suffering from the injury, they're losing blood. So you could literally be hit, still be able to move because you got adrenaline running through you, but if you let the blood keep draining you're going to go into a coma and then that's your next phase of you know, death essentially, or pre-death as you go into coma.

Speaker 2 26:27

We're all pre-dead yeah, we're all pre-dead, exactly.

Speaker 2 26:33

And then you can apply a lot of that stuff to people that are in the coma and maybe bring them back out, but it's, it's a pretty damn involved medical rescue play as part of this game.

US Navy Engagement with Cartel Ship

Speaker 2 26:43

The guns, as I showed you in that screenshot, are all made of actual components, just like in the the real life. So you have, you know, uppers, lowers and all the bits that fit into the uppers and the lowers, and you have that for a multitude of guns, from the AR line to the AK line, svds, m700s, different pistols, you've got 1911s, you've got Glock 17s, you've got F92s, you've got or 92Fs, you've got a variety of weapons there and every weapon has the actual bits and pieces that you can assemble it out of. And you can build custom, like I built a totally custom designated Marksman M4 with a 20 inch barrel and a nice scope on it and like then you can use that stuff, obviously, or you can sell them. Here's another thing in this game that most games don't have weapons and every other piece of kit has wear and tear and wears out during use and especially if it gets shot, there's nothing like losing a pair of ipv 14s or ips 14s what's the?

Speaker 2 28:03

I forget the model pvs, pvm, too many of them. Yeah, basically your mid-tier night vision gear. Because a bullet hit it and, oops, that's $14,000 of game money that you just lost. So you learn to take them off, which is why they come on clips, so you can put them on and take them off and not just walk around with them folded up on your head all the time. Cause a ding to those is going to be very expensive for you. So, yeah, wear and tear and everything. You can repair things in the armory, but you can never repair it to full 100%. It's always a slight decrease. Whenever it got used Things like your plate carriers your protection gets damaged. As you get hit, as you get shot, it loses its efficacy. So it's extremely close to a simulator, but it's still a game. It's not totally purely a simulator, but all those things combined are pretty brutal for a new player coming in, for anyone who's used to first-person shooters, but not games like this. All those things combined are pretty brutal for a new player coming in, for anyone who's used to first person shooters, but not games like this.

Speaker 2 29:18

I think it's a fairly harsh starting process, because you will get killed fairly quickly when you first start just from ineptitude and then you're going to be like, okay, so you know there's damage to all this stuff. But when you get killed, you respawn back at your home base. You have to get to where you died and try and recover your stuff. So it's not a my stuff magically appeared with me you. You recover back at the base, but you got nothing. You have to either put on a new kit or risk going to where you got shot with nothing, no protection, no gun whatever, and try and grab your old stuff from your dead body. And if you happen to get killed on your way to get your stuff, that's it, because there can only be one dead body of you in the game and so if you die a second time, your first dead body goes away and along with it all of your kit that was on it. So it's like it actually becomes more challenging to recover your dead body, because now your risk is much more real.

Grey Zone: Ultra-Realistic Combat Game

Speaker 2 30:26

If you get killed once, yeah, you're dead, but all your stuff is still there. If you get killed a second time before you manage to recover your stuff, you could be losing, you know, stuff that took you weeks of gameplay to get, or money, which, again, for some people these are all negatives. For me, these are all positives because I like to play games with realism and difficulty cranked to 11. I think it's much more satisfying that way than just some brainless activity that you can click a button and do repeatedly, over and over. So for anyone looking to get into a game like that, check out Grey Zone. There's no current sale or anything on it, but it is, and it, by the way, it's an alpha, another alpha game, so it's not released yet, so is it available on Steam.

Speaker 2 31:18

Yeah, yeah, it's on Steam. It's called Grayzone. It's version .35 is the current version. They plan on releasing it at the end of next year.

Speaker 1 31:29

How much are they charging for this alpha? I don't know, bucks something like that pretty expensive for an alpha well, it's been going up.

Speaker 2 31:37

I think it's been around for about a year now and it goes up in price twice a year. So they, like the people that got into it really early, before the game really existed, paid 15, 20 bucks for it. I think they did a kickstarter, actually, and then now it's gotten it's about a year old, it's got a little more meat on it. I will say this for an alpha this thing crashes less than games that are released. I have not had a single game crash in like three days in this game. So think of it in alpha in terms of like, not that it's buggy and it's got to get developed a lot, but more in the sense of only about 35% of what's coming to the game has been implemented. So they will have way more stuff to do.

Speaker 2 32:25

When you go on a mission, you call for a helicopter to pick you up and drop you off. That takes time. It takes time to wait for the helo and it takes time, while you're sitting on it, for it to physically fly you back. The whole thing is done in Unreal Engine 5.5, which is, you know, beautiful, gorgeous. So you're playing on a game field that is, I believe. I think it's 40 kilometers by 40 kilometers, something like that. It's a substantial size gameplay field and the like. If you're just walking, you'll walk. Maybe maybe a quarter of it in an hour. Maybe, maybe a little more than that. You probably walk a third of the map in about an hour. So the helicopters are pretty good time things.

Speaker 2 33:19

But nothing's instant. There's no teleportation, everything is like once you start the game, you're in first-person view, you can see your body, you can see your weapon and you stay in that until the very end. There's no other views. And it's wise. It's very high quality, for sure and as long as you have a decent what?

Speaker 1 33:40

maybe I'll check it out I think you should.

Speaker 2 33:42

I've been talking to my, my buddy, who occasionally listens to this who's active military, trying to get him in there because he's a big gamer and he's in the military. I'm like, dude, come on, you got to get in here, but I've been playing. In fact, the guys I play with are all mostly ex-military not all of them, but most of them are and so it's helpful. It is good for everyone when people understand command structure, when they you know they don't just do stupid shit on their own, because it is very much a game where, while it's possible to do things solo, to do that you really have to focus on sniping, but to do more of the inside stuff, more of the harder missions, you're going to be playing in a squad of four people. So I definitely recommend it. Some people have compared it to Tarkov. It's not. In some ways, I guess you could kind of say it is similar to Tarkov, but I think it's Never played Tarkov.

Speaker 2 34:53

Yeah, but plenty of people have. But I think it's a little different. It is brutal like Tarkov in some ways, but it's also, I think, more simulation-like than Tarkov in other ways. And it is a completely free what's the term for it for games where you can explore anything you want whenever you want. It's a like grand theft auto is that way.

Speaker 2 35:22

Cyberpunk's that way, where you're not just doing missions, you're not like just dropped off to do a mission and picked up after the mission. You literally can just head off without any mission selected and go spend eight hours wandering around shooting with whoever you can. And it has both pvp mode and pve mode. And I much prefer playing pve, not necessarily because, oh, I don't want to play players, because I suck. I mean, I'm not that bad. I'm not that great either, but I'm not that bad. But in the PvE there's a certain feeling of camaraderie that develops when it's humans against machines. That doesn't really exist when you're doing PvP and you can switch modes. That doesn't really exist when you're doing PVP. But so I and you can switch modes anytime you want. So I'd say, 80% of the time I'm in PVE mode and then 20% I jump into PVP and what is PVE?

Speaker 2 36:24

Player versus environment. It's where you're you're battling the computer bots. Pvp is player versus player, where you're battling primarily actual humans.

Speaker 1 36:34

So while we're somewhat talking about guns and stuff, did you order your new Saber AK yet?

Speaker 2 36:42

I need to. I'll tell you that much. I need to see that Because I have exactly that in the game.

Speaker 1 36:47

But did you see what Palmetto State came out with with the Saber AK?

Speaker 2 36:52

No, I sent you a link, okay they just released it and they're already sold out rifle with plan b mounts.

Speaker 1 36:59

Oh, they look nice too, I like yeah, so they're a premium, american made ak with some pretty nice features do they have ak-74s yet they should do do an AK-74.

Speaker 2 37:10

I'm finding I'm liking the. In fact, in the game I use the AK-12, ak-16, and AK-19. Those are the three main weapons I like.

Speaker 1 37:20

I mean any of the AKM-style weapons. They have a 105. They have a 104. Yep, they have a 103. Interesting Anyway, yeah, because they.

Speaker 2 37:32

Anyway, I'll tell you the AK-308 is in the game. I think you have to buy this game, ben. Okay, I'm sorry. You know what the AK-308 is.

Speaker 1 37:46

I don't.

Speaker 2 37:47

The AK-308 was a AK, a modern AK, an AK-12 clone, basically, which is chambered in US 308x51. And so it's really similar to our Tavares.

Speaker 1 38:08

Well, except it's not a bullpup.

Speaker 2 38:10

Right. What I mean by similar is it's developed in a nato caliber and but it's not a us made gun now why would they do that these? This was a order from one of the middle eastern countries.

Speaker 2 38:26

Ah, now that makes more sense yeah, so, so they make those crazy ass Qataris man or chambers now for calibers I should say not chambers for calibers of the modern AK, the AK 12 baseline. One in three oh eight, one in traditional seven, six, two by 39, one in the Russian five, four, five and then one in the five, five and then one in the 5.56. The current AKs actually support all four calibers.

Speaker 1 38:58

The 5.45 is just too light of a round though.

Speaker 2 39:04

You know, for military purposes most of those are steel cores, so they're not really using the mass of those, they're just using high-speed piece of steel flying through and penetrating the 3-plus armor.

Speaker 1 39:24

Yeah, Anyway, the Palmetto State looks to be interesting. I can't wait to hear Brandon's take on it.

Speaker 2 39:33

Yeah, I mean I'm just going to buy one. I'll just tell you that right now I don't really care what they say, I'll just buy one.

Speaker 1 39:39

They're not cheap. I think they're like a $1,500 AK.

Speaker 2 39:45

I mean, I've been waiting for a high-quality AK to be sold. The closest I have is my Israeli one AK to be sold. The closest I have is my Israeli one. But this is genuinely an AK, not a weapon system based on an AK.

Speaker 1 40:01

Right, and that's one thing I will say is Palmetto State's saber line has been really nice stuff, like anything they put the saber category on, it's been really nice. Yeah, you have you worn your uh shirt. I got you yet no, not yet did you even look at it?

Speaker 2 40:20

no, not yet. It's in the box. Dude, it's the box that I brought in the house, but I haven't looked at I got gene an artemis shirt that'll be cool. Artemis meaning the space program Correct, Not the goddess. It'd be pretty weird if you got me an Artemis shirt wouldn't it?

Speaker 1 40:41

I mean it's named after the goddess. Well, I know that, but you're like here, have a goddess shirt. Well, I mean, it would fit your persona, wouldn't it?

Speaker 2 40:52

Unleash my inner goddess. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1 40:55

Indeed, indeed.

Speaker 2 40:57

Yeah, so it looks like. It looks like they're $1,300. That's not bad all right.

Speaker 1 41:13

Well, what's your next one that you want to talk about?

Speaker 2 41:17

well, what else is going on? Oh, no, man's sky. Another game. This is, this is gonna be the gaming episode well, you know what if you don't?

Speaker 2 41:29

have any fucking news then it it's gaming, because I've been gaming, so that's what it is. I've been traveling. No Man's Sky is a space game that came out about nine years ago. It's an interesting story because it was the most broad-reaching of all space games. Elite Dangerous has the entirety of the Milky Way in it. No Man's Sky has all the Milky Way in it. No Man's Sky has all of the universes in it. It's a very ambitious game.

Speaker 2 42:01

Let's say that it had a horrible start. Like a lot of games do, they set expectations really high and then failed to meet them. But they've completely reversed that in the first few years and in the nine years that since it's been out. It's a much beloved great game because they've been providing literally free updates. No dlc sold at all. Free updates for anyone that bought the game for nine years every quarter, so that's nine times four updates, so that's 45 updates that they've put out now, which is insane for free. Nobody does that.

AK Firearms and Palmetto State's New Release

Speaker 2 42:40

And the latest update that came out is the first one that lets you build spaceships out of spaceship parts, which is somewhat similar to a game called Starfield that came out about a year and a half ago, which lets you build spaceships out of spaceship parts so that when you have your ship you're flying in the game it's not just just like everybody else. You can have it be very customized to your particular interest, whether that means a big, giant ship or a small, maneuverable ship or whatever. So this just came out as a free update, whether that means a big, giant ship or a small, maneuverable ship or whatever. So this just came out as a free update and everybody in the gaming industry well, let's put it this way, people that are in the space genre of gaming, which I'm part of that group are all losing their minds about the fact that this just raised the standard for every other game that has spaceships to now also come out with customizable spaceships, because most games they just have a ship.

Speaker 2 43:40

You get it as it is. You can't customize it. You want that ship, you can have that ship. You want a different ship? You can have a different ship, but no tweaking of the ships, as it were. So, yeah, it's a. It is crazy for people that are in the know that. I think this is going to have a very great positive effect next year. I think other games this year that haven't done this are going to be forced to do it by next year, so positive move very cool and other news not related.

Speaker 1 44:19

So something that trump had proposed, that even bernie sanders is behind, yeah, that has kind of languished that we need to kind of all call our congress critters and push. But the bill to cap interest rates on credit cards.

Speaker 2 44:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1 44:34

They tried to attach it to the Genius Act but it didn't make it in. It's still sitting there and still can be passed. We just need Congress to act. Yeah, but you know, bernie Sanders Ocasio-Cortez.

Speaker 2 44:47

Where do they?

Speaker 1 44:48

did we not used?

Speaker 2 44:49

to have caps. I could have sworn that credit cards used to cap out about 15, 16%, like 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 44:56

Well, interest rates were lower then. But what it comes down to is it doesn't matter what your credit score is right now. If you're running credit card debt, it's pretty high interest rates.

Speaker 2 45:08

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 45:09

I have some cards that have pretty low interest rates through credit union stuff like that, but trump's proposal is to put a cap of 10 on credit cards.

Speaker 2 45:20

Now what that's going to do I don't think I have a single card that is at 10 or lower I have one that's a 10, but again it's I used to have most of my cards back 20 years ago. I'm more under 10 for forever exactly they were under 10 forever and then they started just like, oh you know, it's zero interest for six months and then it's variable, blah, blah, blah. And then you look at it's like 18 and a half percent. What the fuck this is with good credit? What's going on here?

Speaker 1 45:47

yep, yep, it's, it's pretty crazy usury bullshit it is in that that's the exact. That's the exact thing is, especially with the economy the way it is and everything else. Now it's going to create a credit crunch as soon as you do that, because a lot of people who have not great credit are going to lose their credit cards. But the bill addresses how companies can roll off current customers how they can't and so on and so forth.

Speaker 2 46:13

So yeah, I think as long as it's equally spread, it'll be fine, because credit card companies also have to loan out money, like if they don't loan out money, they don't make money. So they can't just say everybody or half the population loses, 150 million lose their credit cards now because their credit is well less, you know worse than the other half. They can't afford to do that. They still need to provide credit. They're just gonna, instead of raising interest rates, they're just going to lower your total credit yeah, and they'll probably come up with some fee structure or something to get around it.

Speaker 1 46:50

But at the same time, right, it's a good move.

Speaker 2 46:54

And when you see bipartisanship on something like this, like at what point let's start with the credit cards and then move on to the fucking medical insurance and mortgages and everything else yeah, but medical insurance next, for sure yeah because that's gotten totally out of control. When I was in my 30s, early 30s, I was paying $124 for full coverage for medical. Now I am paying about $1,500 a month. What is that? $18,000 a year, that's insane.

Speaker 1 47:29

That's very high. I don't pay that for everybody.

Speaker 2 47:32

It's a very good deal, frankly, because Playhome charges you more than that. That's just Blue Cross, blue Shield, gold plan the same one I've had literally for 30 years.

Speaker 1 47:42

You're on an individual plan, though not through a company.

Speaker 2 47:45

No, I'm on a corporate plan, but it's a small business Individually. They just wouldn't give it to me. You can't get these plans individually. The individual plans you can get with Thanks Obama, are really shit now.

Speaker 1 48:05

Well, you know, during when the Affordable Health Care Act was being proposed, I lobbied Congress against it and my entire thing was screw single payer. What you really want is to basically I don't want to say outlaw products, but basically say, hey, if you're young in your 20s, you just need a catastrophic policy and an unlimited hsa yep, yep, exactly.

Speaker 2 48:40

Yeah, this idea of young people paying for old people is bullshit. But at the same time, the profitability of the insurance industry is insane, and I know this firsthand because my sister's been working at an insurance company for like 30 years and so I've seen how much money they make. It's an industry that has had record profits and record bonuses, like when you get a $50,000 bonus for Christmas. They're making good money for literally 30 plus years, like they've that industry has been. If you invested in in an insurance company 25 years ago, if you put in twenty thousand dollars, you'd be a millionaire today. It's. It's not sustainable and it's bad for the entirety of people. It's literally.

Speaker 2 49:35

You have two choices. You could just say fuck it, have no insurance, and then just never pay your medical bills when you go to an emergency room, which is what a lot of people do. But if you choose to stay on the legal side of it and actually have insurance and actually pay your bills, it is effectively a tax that takes 20 grand off the top of your income. Now people say, well, I've got insurance to work, so it doesn't? Ah, it absolutely does, because when we're calculating benefits packages to hire people, we don't look at salaries. We look at the full package, which includes insurance. So when you have a job listed at a hundred thousand dollar salary, that hundred thousand dollar salary is what you're getting, but that cost to the company is going to be closer to 150 000 because out of that you have to also add in ancillary costs like various types of insurances and you have to 401k matching, yeah, the 401k, matching all that stuff and your vacation coverage.

Speaker 2 50:38

So this is why people often don't realize that. What the expectation like? Well, it's only a hundred k a year job, but they're expecting me to do this, that and the other thing. Yeah, because then you have to pay for 200 grand of benefit to the company to justify having a hundred thousand dollar salary. Like that. They're gonna get way more out of you than you are getting paid otherwise. They can't afford to hire you in the first place. So that's a normal thing. But you imagine out of that if you had to pay your own insurance, right? If you still are. It's just that whenever you get a hundred grand let's just use that as a round number when you have a job, it's a hundred thousand dollars salary. They're actually like if we didn't have insurance thanks to World War II, be paid for by companies, then you would just simply be getting $120,000 a year job and then paying 20 grand of that in insurance premiums. That's that's really. It's about 20% of income is at that point. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 51:42

You all, ben, you know how the the whole company paying for insurance thing started, right? No, tell me, there was a? A. I don't know if it was a presidential order or if it was a congressional thing. But at the beginning of world war ii they effectively froze all salaries. They they put a freeze so that you take competition out of the equation, because you you need workers to work, not to jump jobs right, and the workaround, the, the gaming of that the companies figured out could be done.

Speaker 2 52:15

There's lawyers figured out, I'm sure is, while they froze salaries, there was no freeze on benefits, and so they started padding benefits to be worth more and coming up with something that was a fairly novel idea at the time, which is is like well, we'll put in payments for your medical insurance into a benefit package for you. We can do that, we just can't pay you more money. So that was the beginning of that whole program and it slowly over time more initially it was just for you know very much high end white collar workers, and then they kind of spread down lower and we got to a point where now workers don't know what to do if they don't get insurance through the company. Somehow that's like a standard thing that you expect and that you're looking for when you get a job, and companies couldn't imagine not providing insurance to employees And's I mean. Those of us that work with startups know very well that startups don't provide insurance because they can't fucking afford that much. So you're having to figure that out on your own.

Speaker 1 53:22

But well, anyone, I mean that or they go through a management company that helps them.

Speaker 2 53:27

Yeah, yeah, but all that stuff adds up because what you're doing by not paying for your own health care Like I still remember when I was a kid, my parents going to the doctor and just paying the doctor directly, like that used to be a thing.

Speaker 1 53:44

Well, it still is Like we do concierge medicine for the kids. Oh you, do yeah. Because it's getting a pediatrician. That will work with us on like a vaccine schedule and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 53:57

Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 53:58

So they come to the house, dude, it's very nice.

Speaker 2 54:00

Yeah, which is what it used to be.

Speaker 1 54:02

They did used to come to our house. They do house calls and they can do a lot. They can bill to the insurance for you know any, the insurance for you know any tests or right, whatever, whatever yeah, but you're paying the doctor for their time directly.

Credit Card Interest Rate Cap Proposal

Speaker 2 54:19

Yep, so the further way you place the payer from the provider of the service, the less the payer cares, but also the more opportunity there is for these ancillary companies, like insurance, like adjusters, like discounters, all these companies that all make money in between you and the doctor. That money doesn't come from somewhere magically. It comes directly from us as the people that use medicine, and I mean most of us have used medicine at one point or another. So it's a horrible, horrible system. I would love nothing and I I know this doesn't sound very libertarian, but I'd love nothing more than the entire insurance industry to be banned, just kicked out. There should not saying there should be a government paid for insurance, but we need to get rid of insurance companies. If people want to do the equivalent of a and I know some churches do this, because I've got friends that have done this that effectively pool money from all their members so that when one family has excessive medical bills, they're not in a hole for Sure some of the Christian med sherry stuff and all that yeah.

Speaker 2 55:30

Yeah, they're not, or Jewish or whatever, but they're not in a hole for a whole bunch of money, because they're part of this. You know, group healthcare pool, and if you have enough people in your group then you still get discounts on medicine stuff or on pills and other stuff Like. I'm a much more of a believer in that than to have an industry making record profits, literally billions and billions of dollars, that are taken out of the payments to the medical system, to the doctors, to their hospitals, and I'm kept by these in-betweeners, these, these leeches, sucking the money out. It's horrible, it's a it's a horrible system and I'm afraid we're going to have to go to nationalized medicine before it's ever fixed because they have just a shit ton of whatchamacallit lobbyists.

Speaker 1 56:23

Well, that's one of the most powerful lobbyists. We started off talking about RFK and so on that's exactly what he's facing.

Speaker 2 56:30

Yeah, they're going to kill him. Very highly likely he's gonna die in this administration. Well, we'll see. I hope they don't, but I'm saying that this is, this is the level of money that a life of a man, even a famous man, becomes inconsequential financially uh, I yes, and especially if he keeps going down the road he's going down with, really hitting them between the eyes. Kennedys have a real problem with just letting things go, don't they? What's?

Speaker 1 57:02

that.

Speaker 2 57:03

Kennedys have a real problem with just letting things go and just going with the flow. Yeah, yeah, and I'm afraid thefk is in the same boat.

Speaker 1 57:16

oh, there was another story. I wanted to talk about shit. The, you saw, south korea came to a deal with not the. Trump administration to repatriate their citizens who were caught up in some of the ICE raids? Really, no, I didn't see that. Yeah, so South Korea is going to be taking some of their people back. But that wasn't the one I wanted to talk to you about Shit.

Speaker 1 57:47

You saw the Albuquerque fire department, right? Yes, I mean they're cute and everything. All the albuquerque fire department, right? Yes, I mean they're cute and everything. But so albuquerque fire department has a all-female engine crew. What could possibly go right?

Speaker 2 58:00

yeah, look, if, if there's no human lives involved and that's just a matter of, like, you know, driving the truck and then pointing a cannon, something to pour water on it, who cares? But if you're talking about physically trying to save someone's life, women are incapable of doing that well, I mean just think some little five foot four right hell.

Speaker 1 58:23

Let's say she's 150 pounds yeah, it's gonna pick me up good luck or me yeah, and I'm, or even you, dude I would have a hard time picking you up, dude that's what you should.

Speaker 2 58:37

You're not exactly scrawny, but you're pretty damn average I'm 185 pounds, dude, yeah your average and 510.

Speaker 1 58:45

Yeah, exactly, and you're 51010 and 5'3 6'3, 6'3 and IQ of 187.

Speaker 2 59:00

Everybody knows that. Yeah, it's look. I pick up my 120 pound snake occasionally when I need to move them from one room to another.

Speaker 1 59:13

That's about it, and 20 pound snake occasionally when I need to move them from one room to another. That's about it.

Speaker 2 59:17

That's about the limit. But this is my point. I'm not picking up a guy.

Speaker 1 59:19

We're doing diversity, for it's just. There's got to be a breaking point where we say you know what? This is just no, men and women are not equal, sorry.

Speaker 2 59:31

No, not at all. This is just no. Men and women are not equal. Sorry, no, Not at all. It's retarded to say that they are. That's what I'm going to throw out there.

Speaker 1 59:52

Yeah, did you see some of the SpaceX swag I sent? Sent you?

Speaker 2 59:55

no, some of the links. Yeah, they're selling.

Speaker 1 59:57

Spacex is selling a whole bunch of stuff it's fairly cool actually. Well, you can get that. You can get some starship chopsticks oh, I did see that.

Speaker 2 1:00:06

Yeah, no, I did look at that. Okay, so that was very weak, I thought because I already have those and they just don't say starship on them. But I've got metal chopsticks that like they've been around forever. I've got titanium chopsticks right, but this is made out of starship hull. Well, they say that, but, dude, you know, I don't. I don't believe that they're not made of Starship hull. They're made of the same factory that makes Starships, probably.

Speaker 2 1:00:35

I wouldn't be surprised if, when they recover metal, it's more time and money to recycle it than to just melt it. Or is that what you refer to as like if they've melted the metal that used to be part of the? Part of Starship and then made it into chopsticks. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 1:00:55

Well, that's different.

Speaker 2 1:00:56

That's what they're claiming Okay, they could be doing that, but that to me is not at all interesting.

Speaker 1 1:01:03

I mean, if your chopsticks have been to space. It's kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 1:01:06

Well, not if they're melted, no, not really. If they take a chunk of that you know, the exterior skin or whatever and they cut little squares off of that and then sell those. I would buy that because that's like, as is, it's been to space. If something's been to space and then melted afterwards, well, guess what? Everything on earth has been to space, literally everything.

Speaker 1 1:01:34

Not quite, but okay, yeah. Well, what hasn't?

Speaker 2 1:01:38

What do you mean? Well, I mean, everything has been to space.

Speaker 1 1:01:43

If you consider, I mean if you agree with the accretion theory of planet formation, sure.

Speaker 2 1:01:49

I don't care what theory you come up with. The planets didn't just pop out of nowhere whole it doesn't matter how they were created. The point is that they weren't created as they are unless you're a creationist.

Speaker 2 1:02:10

Literally they were, but I mean you know, I don't, I can't discount for that, but it's yeah. Well, in that case, you believe that the the earth is 500, 5600 years old as well and the dinosaurs were roaming the planet and chasing humans around because god created all of them and they disappeared during the flood, when he decided they were bad leviathan yeah so, yeah, no, I did see, you gave me some christian book there to read too. Yeah, I did I gave you a children's study guide.

Speaker 2 1:02:46

Yeah, exactly, yeah, I'll, I'll. Do you want feedback on it or do you want me to just whatever?

Speaker 1 1:02:53

you want to do.

Speaker 2 1:02:54

Okay, all right, because I I took a look at it briefly and I'm like okay, ben, it's. You start off with premises in something that you make for kids like that, and the kids will just be expected to agree to those premises. But if those premises are myths and you give it to an adult, then there's no agreement. There. It's like, yeah, okay, good, that was a good story doesn't actually mean that's what happened, nor does it somehow make a, a magical being that lives in the sky, become real just because there's a story out there.

Speaker 1 1:03:37

I don't know, man, I think we have. You know, I think we have more evidence for Christ's existence than a lot of other things. Christ, sure he was a Jewish dude.

Speaker 2 1:03:49

Yeah, no one's arguing that. We got plenty of evidence. It's the mythical being in the sky. That's more of a problem, unless unless you think that aliens are god, in which case then I'd find it much harder to argue against because, statistically speaking, there are aliens somewhere well and you know the age of the universe would say. They're probably aliens that are much more advanced than we are and capable of godlike acts.

Speaker 1 1:04:18

Well, any technology sufficiently advanced appears to be magic, right.

Speaker 2 1:04:24

Thank you, asimov. Yeah, that was Arthur C Clarke. That wasn't Asimov, that was his buddy Clarke.

Speaker 1 1:04:31

Anyway, Asimov and Clarke, both great authors.

Speaker 2 1:04:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, One of them was a little gayer than the other, but yeah, okay, I'm just saying I mean, it's not a big deal, it's just. You know he was.

Speaker 1 1:04:46

Which one?

Speaker 2 1:04:48

Clarke.

Speaker 1 1:04:53

How was Clark? How is he more gay? He had sex with men. I didn't know this. Yeah, why do you know this? Cause I really liked him.

Speaker 2 1:05:01

But I was young and then I stumbled across that information I was like, oh okay, alrighty, yeah, no, he lived out his last couple of decades of of his life off the coast of Indiana Island.

Speaker 1 1:05:15

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:05:15

Yeah, I think it was called Epstein or something.

Speaker 1 1:05:19

Jesus Christ dude.

Speaker 2 1:05:21

I mean, people had proclivities way before modern people.

Speaker 1 1:05:26

Oh, absolutely. I mean, look at the Greeks and the Romans and everybody else Exactly, by the way.

Speaker 2 1:05:35

Do you ever watch the movies? Did you look?

Speaker 1 1:05:37

at what was released on Epstein the new Epstein stuff. I couldn't be bothered, dude, I'm just sober at this point. So they released quite a bit of new Epstein documents. They're trying to release more. They're trying to release more, and they have. Rohana and Massey have some bills in right now. That would have all the Epstein documents released and now there's a lawyer that's been working on this with some of the survivors. And he says if you know, if the government won't release a list, the survivors are prepared to release their own list.

Speaker 1 1:06:16

I saw that clip, but again it's just more flapping of hot air until somebody actually does fucking something Right. I mean, we'll see. I think the women who were trafficked and you know some of these survivors saying they were trafficked to other men are very likely to release something.

Speaker 2 1:06:43

And, quite frankly, I would trust that list more than anything the FBI had put together. I don't know about that, but I would say threats like that are somewhat mitigated by the fact that they haven't already just done it. What's to stop somebody who genuinely 21, all of a sudden get invited to the back room with the champagne flowing and say, hey, we're flying to Monaco or we're flying to wherever you girls want to go party, there's plenty of of coke. And then they say yes to everything. And then they find themselves in the room with a dude in his mid-60s who expects them to suck his cock. And they do it because now they don't know what to do. And then they don't talk about it for a decade. And now they were trafficked.

Speaker 1 1:07:50

Come on well, I mean, if they're again this, this, this comes down to what is pedophilia and that's why I'm yes, I really don't like that. We've said epstein you know, and said you know he's a pedophile. On the sudden, when yeah, yeah is right.

Speaker 2 1:08:11

Is right? Not justifying what the fucker did or anything, it's just that is painting somebody with the same brush as a dude, who's muslim, who has sex with five-year-old girls yeah, child brides like white, no, not even like with white girls. Way worse.

Speaker 1 1:08:33

Well and that the uk. We need to talk about the uk because it's about to blow the fuck up yeah, exactly, that is exactly right.

Speaker 2 1:08:47

What do you want to talk about it?

Speaker 1 1:08:48

well. So what's his name? That's been arrested so many times? It's been talking about the grooming gangs for so long oh, the british dude yeah, tommy robinson that's right yeah, so tommy robinson and a bunch of people are putting together this protest on the 18th, I believe, sometime next week. Yep, they've got former british special forces in on this. They're saying everyone do not wear facial covering coming to our event. We will ask you to remove it. If you don't, then we will remove you.

Speaker 2 1:09:22

We don't because in a way, because you get a bunch, they don't want the agent provocateurs, yeah fuckers.

Speaker 1 1:09:27

But I mean, you saw the video, that scottish girl with the axe of the knife, that she gets arrested, which is insanity.

UK Protests and Immigration Tensions

Speaker 2 1:09:36

I mean, like, by any standard of any country, even in the fucking middle east, this would be considered insanity, is it? It is crazy somebody who is aggressively, aggressively being entrapped physically by two old middle eastern dudes not even old, but like two you know guys that are a good decade and a half older than her and she is resorting to using the only tools available to peasants in the uk, which is a butter knife and an axe. It's like really, and this is the girl we're arresting for threatening violence to these illegal Middle Eastern rapers. By the way, why are they rapists and not rapers? I don't know. I was never like. That question never got answered for me. Why? Why wouldn't they be rapers? I don't know, because rapers sounds more nasty than the rapist, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 1:10:42

I don't know. I think the rappers might get offended well they were.

Speaker 2 1:10:46

They came way after the rapers did.

Speaker 1 1:10:49

Anyway, the UK is screwed and I think we could easily see some revolutionary acts coming. What Tommy Robinson was talking about is this should be the battle cry for all the West, not just the UK. And I think he's right all the West, not just the UK. And I think he's right. And you know, I think if the king wants to keep his throne, he's going to have to, he's going to have to do something here.

Speaker 2 1:11:19

He's going to have to dissolve the government or do something. There was a post by the Sargon of Akkad guy who doesn't go by that name anymore, carl Benjamin. Carl Benjamin, yeah, and I said sargon of a cod guy who doesn't go by that name anymore. And carl benjamin, carl benjamin, yeah, and I said in my reply to that I said yes, yes, these are all horrible things. But also the voters in britain did this to themselves by allowing women to vote, so, so in some part it's really their own damn fault.

Speaker 1 1:11:52

You're just going to make everything about the 19th and or it's a foreign equivalent, huh.

Speaker 2 1:11:58

Not everything. I'm just saying that if you want to look back at the root cause of most of the problems of the world, they started with Eve. Okay, that's all I'm saying. Do you disagree with that, or do I need to give you a little bible study?

Speaker 1 1:12:14

well, first of all adam had his own agency.

Speaker 2 1:12:18

He could have said new oh yeah, oh, like every man who has ever had a wife, uh-huh go ahead, tell me about agency ben let's talk.

Speaker 1 1:12:28

What day are we doing this podcast again exactly?

Speaker 2 1:12:30

what day and what time are we doing this podcast? Unfortunate facts, but anyway, I don't know, man I I think animals happy with the raccoons, and then they're cool looking animals, you know it. All of a sudden God has to go and give them a troublemaker.

Speaker 1 1:12:52

Yeah, all I can say is it will be interesting to see what the British public does and if there is actual pushback and if change is possible.

Speaker 2 1:13:04

So in one of the video games they play did change my my clan flag to a the english georgian cross the georgia's no, saint george's cross, not the union jack, white and red, basically a red cross yeah, yeah and. Alabama's flag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, more like that, and I kept waiting for some lash back from that, because you know video gaming communities tend to be pretty politically correct.

Speaker 1 1:13:40

For those who don't know, part of the way the UK is protesting right now is they're hanging that flag and painting that flag everywhere.

Speaker 2 1:13:48

Yeah, yeah. So if my video game account gets banned.

Speaker 1 1:13:59

We'll know why well when you play with the woke yeah, yeah, exactly, and, and that's the thing it's like.

Speaker 2 1:14:05

I don't know why the gaming industry has gotten so fucking woke, but it definitely is. It's no better than the movie industry. They let women in Jesus Christ Gene. Video games used to be for the boys. And then these women come in and are like oh, that's too sexist, let's put in a trans character there instead. I don't know, oh, that's too sexist, let's put in a trans character there instead. You've been watching videos of our favorite politician from Virginia.

Speaker 1 1:14:42

Nick Freitas yeah, some of them. What about him?

Speaker 2 1:14:46

I don't know, it's just good videos. I like watching Nick. He's put out some good stuff lately. Yeah, let's see what was that one. Give him some kudos. I don't know, it's just good videos I like watching nick.

Speaker 1 1:14:50

Yeah, he's put out some good stuff lately. Yeah, let's see what was that one some kudos he's.

Speaker 2 1:14:55

He's a good guy. Yeah, do we have any people we need to mention for donations? I can't remember if we had a new one last time that we didn't mention by name oh, if you want to pull that up while I pull this.

Speaker 1 1:15:09

Um yeah, so for her era has been doing the rounds and doing some good stuff too yeah but nick fratus's video on india and trump feuding and some of that stuff was pretty insightful. You know, some of the china stuff how how could china attack the us was pretty insightful.

Speaker 2 1:15:29

If that's what you're referring to the recent videos he's done- yeah, yeah, yeah, I only watched a part of that, but yeah, I think the bottom line is that man, if we had like a bunch of nicks in government, we'd be in so much better shape. You know, he's an actual man, who served in the military, has had a bunch of kids, has a wife that has the right political bent to her. He's a little dumb but yeah.

Speaker 2 1:15:59

Well, but I think his heart is in the right place. Like you got to make allowances for dumb if the person's still going the right direction. Right, because you could be dumb and going the wrong direction. Right, because you could be dumb and going the wrong way, or you could be dumb and going the right way sure so, by the way, the new listener that came in uh supporting us is tom.

Speaker 1 1:16:20

We just have a first name, so tom he's from the eu.

Speaker 2 1:16:25

It looks like yeah, so thank you, sir all right, and so you don't know if it's tom tomski or somebody else no, because I don't think that's just let us know yeah, but if you're not, then that's fine. More than one tom is allowed to live in the eu. I guess we'll allow that make an allowance for multiple times in the eu.

Speaker 1 1:16:48

Why are we allowing for anyone to live in the EU the way they're going? Oh God.

Speaker 2 1:16:52

No, it's.

Speaker 1 1:16:53

So Russia hit Ukraine pretty hard.

Speaker 2 1:16:57

Well as they should, because you know, ukraine hit Russia really hard. How so? Russia's refinery capacity has been reduced by 19%. Wow, that's a lot of refineries that have been hit over the last couple of months, and refineries take a while to build. They do. This is not something that could just be tweaked and fixed, because you know, when you hit a refinery, it burns.

Speaker 1 1:17:19

Well, and refineries are full of, you know, things that go boom.

Speaker 2 1:17:23

Yeah, exactly, and so now the biggest impact this is having is a reduction in exports to countries that Trump doesn't want things imported to, like India and China.

Speaker 2 1:17:36

Now the refinery capacity has had that biggest impact because Russia doesn't really export to Europe anymore. One could make an argument that while Biden blew up the pipeline to Germany, trump is now mad at India for buying Russian crude and has orchestrated Ukrainian drones from attacking specifically the refineries to reduce Russia's ability to sell it. This has always been America's war with Russia and it still is, as far as I'm concerned. I still think this is coming from the white house. There's no way anybody in ukraine is making these decisions. All the maps, all the controls, all the satellite links are all american a lot of it. Frankly, as we've seen, the drones themselves are using Starlink for the communication.

Speaker 2 1:18:32

So this is all. It would be extremely hard to make the case that it is not a war between Russia and the US, and I hope this is a conversation that Trump had with Putin in Alaska, which you know technically still belongs to Russia that there's no way that this is a Ukraine Russia problem. If this is a Ukraine Russia problem, it can be solved tomorrow. If this is a U S Russia problem, this is why we need negotiations and it and it is because right now, I think this administration is still using Ukraine, just like the previous administration, in order to affect change that they want to affect Russia.

Speaker 1 1:19:26

Well, and we're getting to test our weapons.

Speaker 2 1:19:27

Yeah, we've been doing that. But beyond that, I mean when Trump comes out and says India has to cut down on their imports of Russian crude, or I'm going to be very mad, and then two weeks later a bunch of refineries get hit, that isn't coincidence well, you know, it's time for this to end, and if that means yeah or not, Because that's the other extreme we could go to is this just becomes a perma-war, in that, if you piss off Russia enough, there will not be any stoppage to this, except that there's going to be more, more inhumane things happening.

Speaker 1 1:20:12

I don't think we're going to they got weapons they can test as well. Yeah, yeah, I don't think we're going to have. I don't think we're going to have a forever war, because what I think will happen is the US will back off and let Ukraine fall.

Speaker 2 1:20:25

I've been waiting for that for three years and it still hasn't happened, so I don't know if it will. I mean, I haven't heard a peep out of Trump about the fact that the US is still now, nine months into his administration, providing tens of millions of dollars every single month to Ukraine. Their entire country is run on the US money. Their entire country is run on the US money. They're what you think? They're collecting taxes to pay for infrastructure there during this? No, it's a command economy. It's a, frankly, being funded by the US, and the citizens of Ukraine are just, you know. They have no say at all in whether this continues or not.

Speaker 2 1:21:07

This is a decision that only the US can make. They have no say at all in whether this continues or not. This is a decision that only the US can make. The minute the US decides to stop funding Ukraine, the war is over that day period, whether that means that Zelensky has to surrender, or whether that means Zelensky is now in Florida and the country is vacant and the new government forms and they decide to end the war. Whichever way this happens, none of this happens for as long as the US continues to provide tens of millions every single month to pay for the infrastructure, and that's what's going on here.

Speaker 1 1:21:49

I mean, we're doing the same thing I'm here for it man, I I agree with you yeah, it's time for this to end one way or the other well I'm tired of paying for it yeah, exactly it's.

Speaker 2 1:21:57

It's like, frankly, what we did in afghanistan, which sideline created the mujahideen and out of that the uh, what the hell are they called the two of the guys in afghanistan, the? Taliban taliban right which rose out of the mujahideen. But like that was a super cheap and fairly effective operation, even though it backfired on us in the end did it really well, I think so mean you don't think it backfired at all on us?

Speaker 2 1:22:30

We've had a shit ton of terrorist actions that were anti-US. I'm not even talking about 9-11. I don't mean 9-11. 9-11 was an inside job. But if you look at the amount of terrorist actions that have been undertaken, including to civilian vessels in the area, including to us military ships like I think these were.

Speaker 1 1:22:53

That's not in the area of afghanistan, dude, but okay which what wasn't in the area of afghanistan there's no coastal area to that no, but what?

Speaker 2 1:23:06

you think that the Taliban operates within the borders of Afghanistan there were. Does anything else?

Speaker 1 1:23:14

I mean, I think that there are other terrorist organizations and things that operate, you know, like the Houthi pirates and so on.

Speaker 2 1:23:20

Yeah yeah. The Houthi pirates and the Taliban and Iran, the these are all connected by a hatred of the American empire. If you look at the Houthis, you look at their videos, they greatly dislike Israel, but they dislike the US even more. There's very much a bit here that seems to get forgotten by a lot of the people I was going to say kids, but the people running around with the Palestinian flags. Is that this didn't like? It's not a oh, we love America and we hate Israel. That doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 1:24:07

There is a dislike of the West, and Israel happens to be the most western country in the area yes, and it doesn't help that you know abraham decided to lay with hagar as well, otherwise we could have avoided this entire problem well, abraham laid with a lot of women over his.

Speaker 2 1:24:29

How long did he live? Was it like 400 years?

Speaker 1 1:24:33

Seven 700 years there you go, anyway, a very long life Anyway, regardless of what it was.

Speaker 2 1:24:40

Yeah. So I mean I'm kind of happy that Abraham laid with a lot of women, because that's where my family comes from.

Speaker 1 1:24:50

Right, but the whole thing of not trusting God. And you know Sarah giving a handmaiden Hagar to you know him and that's how we got you know Israel.

Speaker 2 1:25:03

Well, what's a man to do? What do you mean? If your wife doesn't put out, what are you going to do?

Speaker 1 1:25:08

No, it's because she thought she was barren. It wasn't that she wasn't putting out.

Speaker 2 1:25:13

Well, why else would she not put out other than?

Speaker 1 1:25:15

she's barren, what?

Speaker 2 1:25:19

No, like they were having sex, but she wasn't conceiving is the implication, Exactly because that was the point of sex back in the day. Eh.

Speaker 1 1:25:28

I think sex has always been entertainment dude I think it's.

Speaker 2 1:25:34

It was extremely dangerous entertainment if you didn't want a kid, so you better have wanted a kid right yeah, I mean men were much less involved with the raising of kids back then, so that that is also true, but also I think back then women tended not to put out unless they were made wanted to make sure that the man provided for their kids.

Speaker 1 1:25:55

Right, but that's because it was a marriage thing.

Speaker 2 1:25:58

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:25:59

Exactly.

Speaker 2 1:26:02

Which is that's all marriage is? It's just the man agreeing that he's going to, you know, take care of the kids. Yeah, Historically speaking. Anyway, what else we got?

Speaker 1 1:26:17

Oh, no man, I'm pretty tapped right now. It's been a lot of travel.

Speaker 2 1:26:21

It has been a lot of travel. I've spent way too much time in airports.

Speaker 1 1:26:23

I will say that the Huntsville Airport is way nicer than that size town should have?

Speaker 2 1:26:32

yeah, it's like, given the air and space industry, do you think that's unexpected though?

Speaker 1 1:26:37

I mean. But I mean it's a small airport, but it's still a really nice small airport.

Speaker 2 1:26:44

Oh, one thing I was going to mention to you, because you were sending me a question mark about it, is I sent you an image of my car going about 80 miles an hour, but the more important figure was the mileage. Okay, the return mileage from your mom's place back home here in austin, which was a five hour drive five and a half hours, by the way, because I didn't have the tailwind on the way there. So that drive I I was hitting an average of 30 miles per gallon okay, what do you normally get?

Speaker 2 1:27:19

like 24, I mean 20, 28 was always really good, but I think this is the highest mileage I've seen since the engine got fucked by the government with the redoing of the diesel thing.

Speaker 1 1:27:34

Yeah Well, you must've had a hell of a tailwind.

Speaker 2 1:27:37

I think it was a decent tailwind because it was a a higher mileage than I anticipated and consistently across the entire distance, and I rewarded the car by stopping at Bucky's and giving it some blue urea. Which is ironically, I just, you know, pissed into it because my urea is blue. Now, oh God damn it, put some deaf blue in there.

Speaker 2 1:28:07

By the way, we have had a couple questions on people saying what methylene blue do we use or any recommendations, because I I'm pretty sure one of the episodes I had a link that was to the exact one. I told you about that right, but I think it's coming again so oh, has it okay.

Speaker 1 1:28:23

Yeah, so like I'm using the ultra methylene blue from alex jones the drops and I take that with an emergency and water every morning.

Speaker 2 1:28:32

But when I'm traveling, I use the pills yeah, so if you want to use the drops, that's, that's fine. Alex doesn't have the pills. No, I don't think so. Okay, so the one I use is called blue boost. Blue Boost from Nutracelle N-U-T-R-I-C-E-L.

Speaker 1 1:28:52

Those are the pills I used to.

Speaker 2 1:28:53

Yeah, I know, it's because I told you about them, and this one is capsules, so you don't have to have any risk of spilling blue fluid all over your clothes or anything.

Speaker 1 1:29:06

And it will stain.

Speaker 2 1:29:08

It's totally yeah, because it's a color I mean methylene blue was used as it's the original blue jean dye yeah, yeah, it's the blue jean dye, but I mean, it's used in painting for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. It's a very vibrant blue color and so the capsules are the the best way to do it, because then you don't risk any spillage. So good stuff. But, generally speaking, the thing you want to look for if you use other brands and we don't get anything out of this, I'm just telling you what we use is look for the actual percentage of methylene blue, because a lot of these things they they'll give you all the other benefits like oh, it's methylene blue and vitamin c and vitamin d, and blah, blah, blah, blah. But then you compare the amount of methylene blue in that supplement to what the one I use is, and it's like half as much or a quarter as much.

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Speaker 1 1:30:07

Yeah and and you know you can you can look at it in a lot of different ways on. You know how that is, but so 20 drops of alex's is 10 milligrams of methylene blue 20 okay yeah, so one milliliter equals 20 mg. Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:30:33

And these are 12 milligrams per pill. Yeah, so it's very similar dosing. Yeah, yeah, exactly, but it's like $30 for two months, so it's $15 a month is about the cheapest. Also, I mean you can find something a little cheaper, but a lot of them are quite a bit more expensive than 15 bucks a month.

Speaker 1 1:30:55

And you want to make sure you get the right grade, the laboratory grade, so the USP grade.

Speaker 2 1:31:01

Yeah, and this is the. Again, the reason I went with these guys is because I actually know the lab that they did them on from when I was running a supplement company for a while, and so we use that same production facility that these guys use and they're clean, so that. And then of the ones that I trusted, these were the cheapest. Also, don't take methylene blue if you're on SSRI, so women should not be taking methylene blue.

Speaker 2 1:31:33

Jesus Christ, yeah, and that is one thing to consider Not medical advice, but a pretty good idea nonetheless.

Speaker 1 1:31:39

This is a medication, you know. This is not a natural supplement or anything like that. So do your research, figure out if it's something you want to try or not. Gene and I have had pretty good luck with it, though.

Speaker 2 1:31:51

Yeah, and again for me, just purely observationally, for the last six months or so I've been doing this. It got rid of the fog that creeped in after lunchtime, like I always had no fog in the mornings. I wake up, I'm ready to go, and that's why I always reserve mornings for time to actually get work done. And then all the meetings, all the zoom calls, everything else in the afternoon, because I could sleep through those. But now, taking this stuff, like the sleep never comes. You could, you know, have lunch or not have lunch or whatever, but everything's like. You just don't have that brain fog yeah, I agree it's.

Speaker 1 1:32:30

It's good stuff. You get a slight euphoric-esque feeling from it.

Speaker 2 1:32:35

You get a lot of energy, like you said, and yeah but it's not the kind of energy like caffeine, like those are totally different types of feelings you get from caffeine agreed.

Speaker 1 1:32:45

It's not a stimulant.

Speaker 2 1:32:46

Yeah yeah, it's, it's not, it's more of a, you know, a coloring dye, and it's pretty cool to you know, every time you go to a public restroom, like you're the one cleaning their toilets for them.

Speaker 1 1:33:01

Yeah, have you gone to a public restroom and not flushed just to see if someone reacts?

Speaker 2 1:33:07

Totally Every time. Yeah, don't need to flush because you know I'm like got a built-in blue pill now. So, uh, or like, what do you call those blue tabs, the stuff you put in the urinals? Blue? Tabs yeah, yeah. And you know, driving back bucky's definitely got a little bit of that. Bucky's the best bathrooms and of any gas station dude, just the best gas station.

Speaker 1 1:33:34

It really is like there's no competition, no no, I had the.

Speaker 2 1:33:39

I had their texas steak burrito. Any good, it's amazing, it's I I don't make them that good at home, man. It's like really a lot of meat in there, like really good brisket in there, and with onions and green peppers it's just super tasty. It's a better burrito than just about any burrito. Again, there's no rice right, it's like a burrito without the rice cool, sounds good.

Speaker 2 1:34:09

Lots of meat yeah, I bet you. There's over a half pound of meat in there. Gene likes lots of meat. Oh, I love meat. Do you not like eating meat? Not the way you do. No, I've seen you. I've seen photos of you with just your mouth stuffed full of meat jesus christ.

Speaker 1 1:34:28

All right now that we're at the five-year-old level of humor yeah, well, I will promise to keep it on time next week and have more content we'll see how that goes, ben.

Speaker 2 1:34:41

We'll catch y'all later, hopefully. You enjoyed this and you know, one of the things we keep adding to, or we added a while ago and we keep looking for in the podcast is there is a link to send us messages, like you guys can communicate with us, because unfortunately we have no idea who the thousand people that download this podcast are. We'd love to hear from more of you now. Some of you obviously let us know by sending us money. We appreciate that. We would like to get more of that, obviously, but even if you don't want to send us money, there's a link in every episode, and I believe it's one that works with both the the newfangled podcasting 2.0 players, but also still is visible in the older players, like the apple one. Click the link, leave us a message, tell us you liked something, you didn't like something, ask us the question, do whatever you want, and then you know we'll answer it and then we'll guilt you into sending us money. So it works great.

Speaker 1 1:35:36

Well, and you know, let us know what you want to hear about more and what you want to hear about less, and so on.

Speaker 2 1:35:43

Well, I know one of the messages, the last one I remember getting was it said talk more about pot or marijuana because, it said, the message said because this new law in texas passes, gene won't be able to buy his combination of methylene blue and cdb or not cdb, the other one.

Speaker 1 1:36:08

Yeah, did you take those pills I gave you? I took one, I got the others here and did you feel?

Speaker 2 1:36:16

it.

Speaker 1 1:36:17

Yeah, it's fine, but I do a lot of nicotine and stuff. Yeah, I guess you do.

Speaker 2 1:36:20

I guess it definitely was a much stronger reaction for me.

Speaker 1 1:36:24

But I don't smoke or drink caffeine, yeah, so you know I drink a shit ton of caffeine and I smoke yeah.

Speaker 2 1:36:33

And you do methylene blue, so like none of that is new to your body. My body's like okay, yeah, and what's the big deal? So yeah, I just and, by the way, that one tab of that is like 40 milligrams.

Speaker 1 1:36:50

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:36:51

So it's a lot more methylene blue, a lot more concentrated when you really want that P to be colored.

Speaker 1 1:36:59

Yeah, when you want to make damn sure.

Speaker 2 1:37:04

Now interesting idea is if you drink a little bit of hydrogen peroxide, it'll actually decolorize the nature of the methylene blue. Really, You'll die in the process, but it'll do it.

Speaker 1 1:37:16

Why would you die?

Speaker 2 1:37:18

Because your body affects extremely negatively to drinking hydrogen peroxide. It literally Do you know what hydrogen peroxide does to a cell?

Speaker 1 1:37:29

Yeah, it kills it, but do you know how?

Speaker 2 1:37:30

hydrogen peroxide does to a cell? Yeah, it kills it. But you know how it kills it breaks down the dissolves the cell membrane yeah, literally letting the contents of every cell spill out, right.

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Speaker 2 1:37:54

But you're not big fan of hydrogen peroxide. I use it all time I I like gargle it so it gets rid of a cold. It will literally kill a cold because it'll rip it apart. It'll neutralize it. You know you can do a lot of stuff with it. Any any kind of any kind of stain you got anywhere, you can just neutralize that with hydrogen peroxide.

Speaker 1 1:38:16

It works great, maybe I can get this methylene blue stains off of the toilet with that, I guarantee you can do that, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:38:25

The only thing is if, when you do that, make sure you have a window open in your bathroom.

Speaker 1 1:38:30

Why.

Speaker 2 1:38:31

Because when it's actually active, it releases hydrogen gas.

Speaker 1 1:38:36

Okay, so you're going to have hydrogen gas Again. Not that much, though, dude.

Speaker 2 1:38:43

Well, it depends how much you pour in there and whether you buy the commercial-grade stuff like I do. Did I ever tell you about what?

Speaker 1 1:38:49

happened. I think we may have one more story real quick. Yeah, I do. Did I ever tell you about what happened? I think we may have one more story real quick. Yeah, go ahead. Did I ever tell you about what happened when we were moving to Idaho?

Speaker 2 1:38:56

I mean, you told me some things that happened.

Speaker 1 1:38:58

So my parents had bought these 55-gallon drums full of high-grade hydrogen peroxide, like really potent stuff, yeah, dissolved in the body. And they were driving and my dad had a tire blow out on the trailer. That that those were on, yeah and anyway. Those barrels rolled down into the ditch, oh anyway. So he didn't stop because he just needed a limpo and get a tire fixed and he came back. When he came back, this was in outside of billings montana.

Speaker 1 1:39:32

He came back and there are people in hazmat suits going down to look at the ditch and what this is, because it's bubbling over and smoking and all this and he just kept driving. He's like I'm not stopping I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 1:39:44

Explain that shit and get a bunch of tickets for dumping carcinogenic chemicals or some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably. That's probably a good call on that.

Speaker 1 1:39:56

But yeah, but it was just, it was funny, you know, because no one knew what the hell it was yeah, god forbid that's that's crazy.

Speaker 2 1:40:07

Why was he? What would he buy it for? What was he gonna to do?

Speaker 1 1:40:09

with it. I don't remember what they were going to do with it Something on food preservation or something.

Speaker 2 1:40:14

Yeah, I mean, it kills bacteria instantly. It kills bacteria, it kills viruses. There's not much that it doesn't kill and you certainly don't want to have prolonged exposure of human skin to it, because outside of our skin is dead, so you're okay touching it. It still gets dissolved but it's not living, so it doesn't matter. But you don't want to stick your hand and hold it underneath a vat of hydrogen peroxide and and, incidentally, don't use anything on the human body more than five%, because you will get a hole, and I've done that, trust me, don't do it. You'll have literally like physical quarter inch hole in your skin.

Speaker 1 1:41:01

But I don't want to know why you did that, but okay.

Speaker 2 1:41:04

Well, I'm not going to tell you anyway.

Speaker 1 1:41:07

All right, eugene, we'll catch you next week. Sounds good, Ben.