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131 The Assassination of Charlie Kirk: Examining a Turning Point in American Politics
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Hey Ben, how are you today?
Speaker 2:It's been a rough period of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's not a howdy kind of day.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Charlie Kirk. Yeah, killed by the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2:It's dude and there's so many wild things people are saying and people are losing their minds. Right now on Twitter, I'm watching JD Vance as one of the pallbearers who's flying Charlie Kirk home on Air Force Two Yep, but you know it's a risk we all take anyone who's politically active. It's, you know, charlie kirk's high profile, so he's got a bigger target, but doesn't mean there's not one on our backs too yeah, yeah, no, absolutely it's.
Speaker 1:It's about to get bigger too.
Speaker 2:The entirety of the internet. Both sides are ready for violence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what they want it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 2:No, I don't want it. But yeah, I fear that you are right and I fear there are many people who are sitting there saying, okay, we'll be the right that the left says we are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you sent a very apropos cartoon which shows a dam and on the dam it says Charlie Kirk. Below the dam is a village that says Democrats and you know all the typical liberal types. And behind the dam is what did it say?
Speaker 2:The right wing death squads.
Speaker 1:Right wing death squads. So basically the right that the left keeps calling the centrists I'll tell you one thing yeah I'm not going to be standing in the way of somebody taking revenge on this.
Speaker 2:Well, hopefully no one does, because we we don't need an escalation, but I fear that someone will like I don't see. You know we've been talking about civil war for a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know I said if Trump had been killed, it would have been civil war, and I think Charlie Kirk is right up there with trump on this yeah, yeah, I agree, and I think the it's not just the fact that a guy who is the most inoffensive commentator or, you know, popular figure, let's say on the right, like a lot of people are way more offensive than him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he, he just wanted to debate inoffensive guys out there gets murdered in cold blood executed in front of his wife and children were at attendance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is not a whole lot different than the way World War I began.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Duke Ferdinand Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2:I've seen a lot of memes about it, a lot of people talking, a lot of people talking, a lot of people talking both ways, you know you know, when Trump got, saying he got what he deserved which is just that's that's.
Speaker 1:The other bit of it is that you've got. You've got people that are relishing the fact that this very soft spoken man got executed and, boy, the lines are being drawn.
Speaker 2:I mean more than ever, more than even when trump got shut well, the democrats, when they, when they tried to have a moment of silence in the house, wouldn't have a moment of silence, for charlie said no, it's pretty, pretty damning dude yep, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1:It's not just the swamp that needs draining. I think we need to build a lot more prisons in this country.
Speaker 2:We need to build asylums.
Speaker 1:We need to build prisons, we need to fucking start arresting people. Because we're not doing it, and this is the end result. Well, everybody who's transgender needs to be in a prison right now. Period, I don't give a shit. Put them all away, like we did with the japanese, for the safety of everyone else. Then we can sort out who's going to be in a mental asylum for the rest of their life, who's going to get counseling for the rest of their life and never touch a gun. But we cannot stay still at what the way it is right now, because what we got is a bunch of crazy people, literally in certifiably crazy people that are running around and committing murder.
Speaker 2:Enough is enough well, I, I, I think that you have to you, you have to be careful, because we don't want you have to be careful, because we don't want. No, no, I don't.
Speaker 1:This line has been crossed now. Charlie's death was the line I'm done. Trying to balance shit out there's the good guys and there's the fucking bad guys and they're the bad guys, and anything that we can do to keep the bad guys from repeating what they're doing is worth doing right now well, I I don't think all trans are bad guys like I wouldn't say that about like blair white all the way right now.
Speaker 1:We'll sort it out later. It's done, the line's been crossed. There's no going back. It's done. At best they're going to be in a mental asylum.
Speaker 2:At best it's going to take a civil war, dude. No, it's not there's a lot fewer of them and we've got more guns. I'm just telling you, though, it will cause like doing that will cause a civil war. Good, because it's not just the trans genders that would fight that.
Speaker 1:It will be the fucking side winning at everything. If it takes a war, it takes a war.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I you know, civil war is not a fun place. It's war between good and evil. It's not a civil war is not a fun place.
Speaker 1:It's war between good and evil. It's not a civil war.
Speaker 2:I agree that we are fighting a what I would say is a spiritual war right now.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm going to fight a physical war, not a spiritual war, if it comes down to it.
Speaker 2:Well it's, it's starting spiritually, but yeah, I believe it will get hot. Yeah, Like I said, I don't see an off-ramp for this. I agree that I don't see it either.
Speaker 1:One black narcotics drug fiend gets arrested in Minneapolis and dies because he overdosed. The whole fucking country burns. We've had now how many of these trans killers on the loose? A dozen in the last year.
Speaker 2:Depends on how you count it. It's not just the trans stuff, man. The Ukrainian girl that got killed in, you know. It's not just the trans stuff, man. You know the Ukrainian girl that got killed in Charlotte. Would you know, had she been black, had the races been reversed, the whole city would have burned.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely Guaranteed. No, you have people just sitting there in the train watching somebody die.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I have people saying the only reason why you care about this at all is because she's white and it's like no, no, no, it's because she's pretty. No, it's because no one needs to sit there and die alone like that, with no one rendering aid or helping or comfort.
Speaker 1:Except for the pieces of shit that are saying that Charlie got what he deserved, because they absolutely deserve to be on the train alone.
Speaker 2:Well, I've seen a lot of angry people.
Speaker 1:On the train going to a burn station. And I think you're Fucking wood chippers man. Wood chippers all the way.
Speaker 2:I think you're going to get your way, gene. I've seen way too many people very angry about this. The reasonable people that I know and work with are pretty upset about it and, you know, in a moment of caring to start, a meeting today was, you know, hey, check on people and you know, when I brought up some stuff it kind of went away. So unfortunately, we have a lot of people who will pay lip service to stuff but then when you start to have a political opinion, don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1:It's not a political opinion. At this point, it's literally good versus evil. We've gotten to that comic book moment where it's no longer a question of gray areas. This is very clear. There is nobody that is making light of Charlie's death. That is on the good side. None of them. It's. It's a fricking, it's a black and white issue to me at this point.
Speaker 2:Well, you know I, I don't know if we're ever going to find out who was responsible. You know I, I don't know if we're ever gonna find out who was responsible you know, I don't know that they're gonna catch the person.
Speaker 1:This seems very well planned and they had an exit strategy yeah, there's a bunch of videos all showing different people running, and all of them are saying this is the person that shot it. So so I don't think we know jack shit right now.
Speaker 2:Well, and we're assuming this person was trans. We don't know because of what was reported to be on the shell casings.
Speaker 1:Well, not only that, we have posts from a trans person saying you know, charlie is going to get his tomorrow, or something to that effect. Yeah, it's. You can't have a civil discourse and disagreements with people who literally want to kill you. And this is what I've been saying for a while and this has been one of our ongoing I I think kind of debate points for the last couple years about free speech, about other topics is yeah, but if you do something, then it's gonna boomerang back and hurt you. It's like no, here's the thing.
Speaker 1:When you're dealing with people whose mission is literally to kill you, you cannot deal with them the way that you would with a rational civil enemy, like there's one thing about disagreeing and it's a whole other thing of. They have a belief that you're never going to change about the way the world looks, and in their world you have to be dead for it to look better. And this is as true of Muslims as it is of people that are right now making fun of Charlie's death. And it's the same fucking thing. It's they are. They don't realize just how moderate Charlie was. It's it's the same words that I use about putin, like people that keep wanting to oh, we get overthrow putin, we gotta, you know yeah, the guy who's gonna come next is he literally?
Speaker 1:is the charlie kirk of russia. He, he is the wall that is holding back 20 guys that will happily press the nuclear button tomorrow because fuck america, because america's been a pain in their ass for 80 years. Putin's the guy holding that back and that this is who the west is pushing against. And I think for charlie it's the same thing. Like charlie is the most non-violent, in fact very much anti-violent all over the world in terms of, if you listen to him speak about any of these topics, his whole style is debate, which is what intelligent people do. How do you change somebody's opinion? You debate each other and maybe the other person starts to hear about some new perspectives they've never heard before and gets them to do their own research and their own thinking, and some of those people will change their minds. And there have been plenty of documented cases of people going to see charlie as democrats and left-wingers and then, a year later, saying that was the moment I started going in the other direction and that's why he got killed.
Speaker 1:Because he's effective, exactly he's effective, without being violent, without being derogatory. He doesn't have the Alex Jones type yelling and screaming mouthpiece kind of attitude, but he's doing the same thing and he is very effective at changing young people's minds and I think that's ultimately what got him killed and you know I'm not a religious person, but fucking a dude charlie was martyred, oh he became a martyr.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is absolutely a martyr. This is not a, you know, a person who just wanted to kill somebody. This is very much a super targeted take out the mouthpiece. I think right now, today, we are the closest that we have ever been and I'm going to speak on your behalf here as well to understanding what it felt like when martin luther king was shot yeah a guy who was also not a radical.
Speaker 1:He was not malcolm x, he was very much a. We need to get along. We need to stop seeing color. Our there are. Our kids need to play together so that when they grow up they will not see any difference between each other. I'm parap, paraphrasing, obviously, here, but you know, having somebody like that taken out, it is impossible to say he got what he deserved. It's impossible to say that, well, this is what happens when you fuck around. Then you find out Charlie never fucked around. Charlie talked to people and he drank his water and he picked up his microphone. It's just, I'm so fucking mad right now, dude.
Speaker 2:Well, I am too. I've gone back and forth between rage and sadness. Yeah, I'm sad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I said this family obviously, but I'm more angered at what happened well, his wife and kids.
Speaker 2:Man, he's got two little ones and one on the way, you know, and he is 31,. You know, no one, no one deserves young enough to be my son. No one deserves to be killed for political beliefs, and if we are going to go down that road, it is going to be a very I don't think he was killed for his political beliefs.
Speaker 1:I think you hit it on the head earlier. He was killed because he was effective. Yeah, it was effective. Because he was effective yeah, he was effective at showing people the truth. He was asking questions that there is no good answer for. From the woke virus he was saying well, what about this, what about that? And that leads you to the natural conclusion he was the Plato of our time.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know if I go that far, but he was certainly an intellectual and intellectually honest. He was just here at A&M a month or so ago.
Speaker 1:Sorry, not Plato.
Speaker 2:Socrates A&M has a big Turning Point, usa presence.
Speaker 1:I'm sure the organization will keep going. I'm sure they're they're going to double down on everything that he did. But that is a hell of a price to man paid. And I say he's a martyr not for religious reasons, but because he died doing that which was his number one belief, like he was doing the thing that he saw his life's mission to be doing.
Speaker 2:Well, and he is a martyr for several reasons. But we all have to be ready to pay that price, like we all have to if we believe in something. I mean, if you truly believe in something, you should be willing to give your life for it absolutely.
Speaker 1:I tell employees that all the time you say this is going to be done on Friday, it better be well, I'm not even talking about work there.
Speaker 2:It's getting dark well, and that's the thing I knew this was going to be a rough one. But you know, we can only stand up for what we believe and try and defend those we love and care about. You know, I for one am not ready to attack anyone as a first off, but I am more than willing to. You know, defend and this is part of the reason why I carry every day, because I'm willing to defend those I love and those who may need my help. Yeah, at whatever the cost is to me.
Speaker 1:Well, and I finally, honestly I think this was also a failure on the FBI's part. Why? Because once again, we have videos of guys running on roofs and there's not a chirp about the government having anybody out there.
Speaker 2:Have you seen the? Well? Why would the government have anybody there?
Speaker 1:Any large group of people, certainly after Las Vegas, requires there to be government presence for safety purposes. What the fuck do we pay taxes for? It's for safety Safety externally and safety internally. That's it. There's no other good reason for taxation. We're not getting the safety.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's the government's job to keep us safe.
Speaker 1:Well, let's disband all the police then.
Speaker 2:I'm totally for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, at that point let's have freelance, you know, locally deputized deputies with their guns done doing the job, but somebody when you have a large event like this outdoor large event. We saw this happen with Trump and him getting shot. We saw this in numerous other events, with people shooting and we got nobody there.
Speaker 2:Well, I will say this there are a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Fly a drone and make sure nobody's on the roofs.
Speaker 2:Well, I will say this. We had a lot of people saying, oh, he was wearing body armor and they tried to shoot him in the chest but the spalling came up and killed him. Oh, because they the trump needs a martyr. So that's why they did this. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think that trump doesn't need shit right now and first of, all yeah, and I having been shot at himself, I don't think trump would ever put someone in that position like it's such a ludicrous thing to say no, these people ought to be right now in insane, insane asylums All of them.
Speaker 1:I would happily have 50% taxations to build enough prisons to put all the Democrats in prison right now. Happily, these people are evil.
Speaker 2:You can't put all the Democrats in prison. Yes, you can.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can.
Speaker 2:You're going to have to have a night of the long knives to do it.
Speaker 1:Fine, do it, we're there. We just crossed the line, we are there. We need to start arresting people.
Speaker 2:Well, you better get them all, because if they get back in power they're going to do it to you. No, no, no, no, if they're, if they get back in power they're going to do it to you.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. If they're going to get back in power, then there'll be a French-style revolution. No, this is not going to go back. They thought Texas getting five more seats was their big concern. California should have zero seats.
Speaker 2:California should have zero seats. You say this, gene, but the problem I have is Tim and everybody's canceling all their events. They're running and hiding. Of course I don't blame Tim, I probably would too.
Speaker 1:He's on the list. He's absolutely on the list, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's on the list. He's absolutely on the list. Well, but do you?
Speaker 1:hide? Or do you keep going and you say whatever happens to me happens to me, but I have to speak my mind, I have to do the things? Well, I think what you do is you take a lot more precautions than obviously they were taking, with Charlie doing what he was doing and, frankly, this is one thing I don't understand. So Ben Shapiro did a video today, you know, talking about Charlie and saying that this will not affect any of his schedule and plans to speak at colleges, and I think he's an idiot because he should be canceling all those speaking games.
Speaker 2:He's definitely on the list, yeah. People were saying Ben Shapiro next, Candace Owens next.
Speaker 1:I think he's got a little better detail than Charlie did. He's been at this longer. He's got more ex-Massad dudes working for him, or, as you would say, current Massad dudes, bum bum working for him, or as you would say current. Mossad dudes. But I'm pumped, but it's, it's a. This is. I'm not going back from this dude. No, there's no making friends with these people anymore. They need to be put away.
Speaker 2:Well, I certainly think there should be asylums brought back and we need to really define what is mental illness and stick to it.
Speaker 1:Anyone that's ever taken an SSRI should be banned from having weapons.
Speaker 2:I mean, you and I take methylene blue. That's not an SSRI, no, but it is something similar in a way.
Speaker 1:It's not an SSRI. It does not cause suicidal tendencies the way SSRIs do.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know if we should ban anyone who has taken an ssri from that's literally all democrats, right, but, and a lot of republicans too. Yeah, all right, that's all right.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, you can say war between good and evil, there will be sacrifices to be made. I'm not willing to just say, yeah, you thought wrong. No, I talked to your mom about that, you're definitely not. No, this is a. They don't understand what they've unleashed. Now, given the choice, I will never, ever, hire another Democrat in my life. I will be asking political questions on any hiring that I do in the future.
Speaker 2:No, but I don't give a shit.
Speaker 1:No, you don't. It's not a protected class. Your politics is not protected. Your religion is, your politics is not. You cannot be forced to hire somebody of a different political view. That's not protected. Fuck them. Fuck them all.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:There might have been one person squeezing the trigger, but there were millions of people holding that gun, did you?
Speaker 2:see, did you see that, tmz? Yeah, I had to apologize tmz apologized and some dude off got fired from nbc yeah, but tZ's apology said oh no, we weren't laughing at that, we weren't cheering for that. It was a car chase which. I don't believe.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:The fact that they had to back down and back off was a good thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Now I just hate this for everything. This means, like you know, we've been saying there's no off ramp. You know phil has been saying that for a long time. Yeah, and I'll be damned if I can find one man like I. I don't see no doing anything but radicalizing people.
Speaker 1:You included? Oh yeah, absolutely no, I'm tired man, I'm not going to do the let's compromise deal on this. This is not a compromise situation. This is good and evil and you cannot compromise with evil.
Speaker 2:Well, just be mindful that you don't become the evil you want to prevent.
Speaker 1:I am willing to become that evil, to defeat that evil, if that's the price to pay. Like you said, we've all got to be prepared to pay the price.
Speaker 2:I'm willing.
Speaker 1:Because there is no sticking your head in the sand on this, there is no doing nothing, there is no backing down, because this is only going to continue. The way that evil works is by boiling the frog in water. If the frog doesn't jump at some point, it's going to get boiled, and more people need to start taking concrete steps. And concrete steps, incidentally, are like what I just mentioned. It's not going out and committing your own version of violence. No, it's doing things like never hiring another liberal again. Let them all be unemployed and starve to death of their own accord. They're going to live with what they sowed.
Speaker 2:Did you watch Trump's speech last night? Uh-uh, you should.
Speaker 1:Because he was actually calling for everybody to condemn the violence and to back down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that's what he's always said. I mean, that's his normal shtick, yeah, but it was well said and you know he was obviously pretty gut wrenched over it, Like he was holding back emotions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Charlie was liked by everyone. Yeah Well, obviously not, but yeah, obviously not exactly, but it he had that type of personality and you know, I I don't know what how much time Trump spent with him, but definitely Trump Jr spent an awful lot of time with him. They were friends.
Speaker 2:And JD Vance. Jd Vance was very close to him Exactly.
Speaker 1:You know, they're a little closer in age and there's a you know people saying that this was a professional hit.
Speaker 2:I don't know that it was yeah, let's talk about that, because this is. This is not a hard shot, like if you look at where the person was, it's about 150 ish yards away, less than 200. Yeah, I mean in their rifle they're claiming the rifle they're claiming that was used is, you know, a high-powered rifle? Yeah, well, actually it is. It's a 30-06.
Speaker 1:So yes, a very high power, ancient, 100-year-old rifle well, but you know hey powerful. What you're saying is literally what I posted on next last night, which is when, as soon as people started saying pro, hit I. Okay, let me just say 150 yard shot at a deer is something that 12 year old boys learn how to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:This is not a hard shot and you know, if he had that rifle zeroed at you know 200 yards where you would normally zero that rifle or so, then you're going to shoot a couple inches high. So I don't think he was aiming for Charlie's neck. I think he was aiming center mass and shoot a couple inches high. So I don't think he was aiming for Charlie's neck. I think he was aiming center mass and shot a couple inches high. That or just pulled the shot personally. But you know the talk of saying Charlie had plates on and stuff like that and all the slow motion. He didn't have plates. He certainly didn't have anything that would stop a .30-06 on, because you've got to have level 4 plates for 30 out six, yeah, and even then that's going to be a real bad day oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I think that was actually a headshot. That was slightly low.
Speaker 2:Oh, maybe here's the thing from a if you're going for hit probability you're going to go for center mouse.
Speaker 1:From a hunter standpoint, you have what you're aiming at stationary and not moving whatsoever. It's your best opportunity for that headshot. How do you hunt deer?
Speaker 2:Me, it depends on where I'm at. Here, texas, I do it in a stand. No, I mean, where do you aim? I aim for the, the body I. I usually aim for, you know, the lungs and the heart right depending on how far you're taking a headshot out of there.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, how often how many I don't know.
Speaker 2:You know, my dad's philosophy was always to aim for the head, because you either miss or you kill meat, yeah, yeah, and you don't fuck up the meat and have to clean it out from lead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's my point. Is that, yes, if you're a little unsure, if you're a little too far, if the animal is moving and it can get spooked, yeah, you go for the long shot. It's a bigger area, but also you may have to chase a bleeding deer down 300, 400, 500 yards. If you take that head shot, like you said, you're either going to kill it or you're going to miss, and it can go on and live a happy life. There's not a whole lot of debilitating headshots, but I don't think the person who is trying to kill.
Speaker 2:Charlie Kirk was worried about that. I think if I, if, if I'm trying to kill someone like that, I'm taking the body shot because it's, you know, higher probability shot because it's, you know, higher probability.
Speaker 1:But also, if that person has heard that charlie kirk usually wears body armor, he's probably, and his intent is to kill, not scare, right. So that person is likely going to be targeting something that's visible and isn't covered with body armor, potentially.
Speaker 1:Here's the other part, it's all speculation and we're never gonna get an answer no, and, and maybe it's a little too soon to make jokes of this, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Charlie did have a very large head. We've talked about that before. Yeah, so big heads. Anyway, my point is I'm gonna bet that it was a slightly low headshot. You're saying it was a body shot. That was a little high. Either way, it managed to go right through the neck and all the blood just spurted right up yeah, and charlie was, I mean, he was dead yeah, there was, you know people hoping that he was stable and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Like I I, when people were tim, was tweeting oh, he's stable, but I'd already seen the yeah, yeah the video. It's like no. Like. Did you remember what happened to kentucky ballistics when the 50 cal blew up? Oh yeah, and it severed his carotid. Now he survived partially because it was it wasn't completely severed and he literally put his finger in it to stop it.
Speaker 1:Yep so and he's from kentucky yeah, and he's a big effing dude yeah, he had a big enough finger to to take a 50 and block it off. Wow, yeah, it's. The tragedy is overwhelming, the insanity of it all is utter and complete and I hope to God the backlash is sufficient.
Speaker 2:I hope to God, the backlash is sufficient. Well, I think this certainly, if nothing else, is a good litmus test dividing line of the people who may disagree with us but are reasonable people versus the people who are, just quite frankly, evil hate mongers. Yeah, it's because if you, if you're sitting there saying charlie kirk deserved this, or you know he, he got what he deserved or any form or fashion of that, yeah, that's an evil stance.
Speaker 1:I only think Charlie deserved was to be debated it with. That's it. Yep, you can. You can argue and say you know, a really smart liberal debater should have been putting Charlie into his place and showing him how wrong he was. I have no problem with you saying that. But to actually kill the guy to his place and showing him how wrong he was, I have no problem with you saying that. But to actually kill the guy for talking. I mean talk about silencing free speech, which, by the way, that was. You saw that, that gift I got you there.
Speaker 1:What what that makes speech free again. Did you look? Did you pick it up? I gave it to your moms. Pick up what? Oh my god at your mom's I gave you some stuff do you remember? That yes. What did I give you?
Speaker 2:Book and something else I don't know, the beanie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I've got it right over here.
Speaker 1:It's a beanie, and what's it say on the beanie?
Speaker 2:It's sitting over there, I'd have to go get it.
Speaker 1:We'll wait, we as the audience will wait for you to get it. Ben always overcomplicates these things.
Speaker 2:Everything's an issue, all right. It says make free speech free again. Okay, cool, I forgot that's what I was referring to yeah I mean opened it you well, congratulations um you. Uh, wear the artemis shirt. I got you yet.
Speaker 1:I looked at it, it is now in a dresser drawer. I will put it on at some point when I need to put on a fresh t-shirt. Appreciate the gift. It's always fun to have merch from companies.
Speaker 2:And you've got some challenge coins in there too.
Speaker 1:I did see that, so I will tell you up front I appreciate those. I'm not really a collector of challenge coins. In there too, I did see that, so I will tell you up up front I appreciate those. I'm not really a collector of challenge coins, so really, more in the future. Don't bother getting them for me, okay, I'm just save your money or get get one for somebody else because I've got maybe like well, before you gave me these four or five, I had like five four or five.
Speaker 2:I had like five.
Speaker 1:I have a display in my office with a bunch, yes, yes, you remember the original purpose of these things, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, I do yeah, I don't drink. Yeah, well, it's, it's okay. Anyway, I think you know, we've, we've said it probably enough, but I, I, I'm glad that people are stepping up to help his wife and kids. You know, Tom McDonald wrote a song and he's donating all the proceeds to his wife and kids, and there was a football player, nfl football player, I forget who it was but said he is going to financially take care of Charlie Kirk's wife and kids, for, you know, housing, food and education.
Speaker 1:So I think you know not to poo poo on that, but I think they're actually, financially said, they're millionaires.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know she still lost. You know his earning potential, of course.
Speaker 1:Of course, she probably lost at least 20 million over the next the rest of his lifetime. Minimum 20 million, yeah, but it's not like she's going to be out in the street in three months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I I really hope she kind of picks up the mantle a bit. You know, I think it'd be realistically good for her and her kids.
Speaker 1:I don't know, dude, I think that that's actually going to be worse for the kids. I think you gotta you, you have to give enough time to feel the sorrow and then let it pass through and then start just focusing on the future. And if you keep, if she takes over over the company and is actively involved, they're just going to exaggerate this moment of his death for the rest of their lives. And I think this is something I agree with Robert Kennedy Jr on he talked about it relating to this already as somebody who experienced as a child losing their parent during the assassination and he said this.
Speaker 1:This creates a very deep hole in your soul and the challenge is to just grow enough in your life to grow around that hole, because it's never going to go away.
Speaker 2:But you don't want to let that hole be your identity so dale comstock is on with alex right now and he's saying I don't know how this is going to end, but it's not going to end. Well, talking isn't working anymore. Yep, the left has no intention of talking. Stop with the words. Start holding people accountable.
Speaker 1:Yeah the left has been committing violence now for the last five years or longer well, I mean it's been longer than that, but yeah yeah, yeah, for sure anything else we want to say about charlie or the situation. Your mom just sent me a text your hand. Okay, I mean, I, I don't know, man, I think we could talk for another three or four hours about charlie. But yeah, if we want to talk about something not quite as dark, we can certainly.
Speaker 2:I don't know, Gene. I think this topic will be just as dark.
Speaker 1:Uh-oh.
Speaker 2:The Ukrainian refugee killed in Charlotte. Yeah, this happened apparently a while ago.
Speaker 1:Well, it was about a week, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:No, it's over a month oh really it just now started getting coverage. I thought it was about a week, wasn't it? No, it's over a month. Oh really, just now started getting coverage.
Speaker 1:I thought it was a week, no, that was the hot-looking blonde chick that was stabbed to death.
Speaker 2:Stabbed in the neck Black guy yeah. She was the only white person on the train and the other people on the train didn't help her, didn't move to do anything. One guy, instead of calling 911, started recording.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:After they finally started to take notice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so she was just sitting on the train while being stabbed and couldn't get any help and just bled out. Yeah, I mean it's part of the same conversation.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:It is a.
Speaker 2:People with mental illness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people with mental illness committing crimes and being allowed to commit crimes by the Party of Death Democrat Party, the party that supports abortion. That is, letting these people that have already committed violent crimes out of prison.
Speaker 2:They're literally the party of death On no cash, bail and everything else. You know that guy obviously needs to be in a mental institution.
Speaker 1:No, he needs to be dead.
Speaker 2:Well, at this point, yes, but he should have been in a mental institution before, but when he murders someone, yes, I'm a fan of the death penalty, especially when you clearly see it and there's no questioning the evidence.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:What I will say is you know, if the races were inverted, charlotte would be burned down right now. Oh, absolutely yeah, is for the people like Van Jones who you know, say well, we don't know what he went through to make him do this, and stuff like that Don't care Fuck you, Van Don't care Fuck you.
Speaker 2:When he literally says I got that white bitch right or I got that white girl, like tell me, this wasn't racially motivated. It absolutely was, absolutely. You know, I don't care if he says he's got stuff in him now that is making him do this, don't care, it's for all I know. That could be a lie, that he's saying that just to try and have some sort of insanity defense. Don't care if it is, I don don't either. He just ought to be dead Agreed.
Speaker 1:We have let evil run things for way too long in this country. Yeah, we've forgotten that you have to be vigilant. You have to be vigilant, and reality is going to remind everybody that you have to be vigilant, because freedom isn't free and part of the cost of freedom is fighting evil and putting mentally sick people in prison. I mean asylums. It is ridiculous that people like this are allowed to walk the streets.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And this is my argument against the anarchy, because this is what happens in anarchy the social contract does not exist. I want freedom, not anarchy. I want there to be a social contract, and I want to only be in a country with people that also believe in a social contract that also believe in a social contract.
Speaker 2:Well, we're gonna have to. You know I don't believe peaceful divorce is still possible, but we're going to have to have a divide, like Pakistan and India did, yeah, for that to happen yeah, and then when you can nuke them exactly, and then when you can nuke them Exactly, it's.
Speaker 1:You can't be friends with people who want to kill you, and this has always been my argument as to why I think that you have to have, you have to agree to do things that, from a purely libertarian standpoint, you might have a problem with, because you're not fighting other rational, intelligent actors. You're literally fighting a death cult, people who want you to die.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, well, you know, a co-worker of mine made a really good point about having to watch all of this and, you know, for those who have teenage or kids that are old enough to be on the internet, talk to them about what happened to charlie, talk to them about what happened to this woman, because you know they're seeing stuff that they shouldn't be saying and it's, you know, it's it's hard on people.
Speaker 1:Or maybe the exact opposite. Maybe they've been, they've been crucified too much. They've been. What's the phrase I'm looking for? Like when the parents are helicopter parents and they keep the kids away from everything. Yeah, there's a phrase for it. It's not babied, but similar context. It's like what the internet did is allowed, basically, kids to bypass their parents filter for what they're allowed to see out to see.
Speaker 1:The response, unfortunately, for many parents has been to then further go in the territory of controlling what their kids do and who they have as friends and what they play with.
Speaker 1:And I think the reality is life is cruel and the best thing the parents can do is wean their children slowly into it and not just pretend like it's not cruel.
Speaker 1:Because I guarantee you that the parents of the killer of Charlie and of all these other shooters recently, I guarantee you that they were preventing their kids from seeing reality, and this is the type of thing that really it becomes an obsessive thing for people that have a mental illness. Like you start obsessing about getting revenge. You start obsessing about doing things that your parents never let you do is part of it's not the only cause by any stretch. Like you, have to have a fucked up brain to begin with for that, but these are things that lead you down the dark path. When your parents go along with a a child saying I want to wear a dress and the parents like, okay, let me castrate you, these are all things that further fuck up the child to the point where they will be so mentally deranged that if they're not in a mental institution, they're going to be comfortable with things like murder.
Speaker 2:my point was just to say hey, parents, you might want to talk to your kids about this that's yeah, and I think it's. It presents a great opportunity to talk about good and evil yeah, anyway, we've got a murderer on the loose and one in custody, and I I don't know man. It sure seems like this week was a crossing of the Rubicon as far as violence.
Speaker 1:Yep, yeah, and I I really hope this doesn't go to waste. I hope that the fact that such a high cost was paid for by Charlie and his family is not just this week's news segment and then nothing next week. I don't think it will be. Yeah, I would like to see some legislation come out of it. I'd like to see some executive orders come out of this.
Speaker 2:I'd love to see the rounding up of the right people. Trump did give the uh, the presidential medal of freedom to him posthumously, yeah, and trump did sign an executive order basically saying death penalty when they catch the person yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I would love to see Bill Maher finally say he's not a Democrat. You know, charlie was on Bill Maher's show just a month ago.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen his reaction to it at all. Have you? I haven't either.
Speaker 1:I haven't either, but I don't know what it's going to be. But I'd love to see him just say this is a straw that broke the camel's back. I cannot be in a party that condones this Because he is an old school Democrat. And how far do you keep putting it. Imagine if this was your party and you kept seeing people from your party that kept killing innocents.
Speaker 2:His last post was September 5th.
Speaker 1:Really Okay, I can't be, right Incognito for a while.
Speaker 2:No, here we go. I don't see anything so far about Kirk, okay, but anyway.
Speaker 1:Did you watch the actual video? I posted a clip from RT that had it of a close-up of him getting shot, not like from a zoomed-in location where they super magnify something, but there was actually video recorded about 10 feet away from him. See that one.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:So I've got it, unless they took it down down. It should be in my x post for today, but the last question he was asked right before this was about gun violence yeah, it was on literally about trans shooters and the guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I sent you that post where the guy was. He was trying to make the point that you know, the left isn't all that violent. And then they fucking shot him yeah yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I I'm, I'm just very, very raw with emotion today. Dude. This, this should not have happened. Charlie did not deserve this.
Speaker 2:Nor did that Ukrainian woman.
Speaker 1:No, no, there's a difference between premeditated and random, and both are bad, don't get me wrong. But premeditated murder is this is an execution. There's no ifs, ands or buts about it, and even if it wasn't planned by you know some secret cabal, it was still an execution and you saw the wikipedia entry. Oh, yeah, yeah, white supremacist, white separatist, charlie kirk yeah, oh my god, and you?
Speaker 2:saw the Wikipedia entry. Oh, yeah, yeah, white supremacist, white separatist.
Speaker 1:Charlie Kirk. Yeah, oh my God, it's, it's insane. Yeah, I I like I said, the closest I can imagine is this is what it felt like when Martin Luther King was shot.
Speaker 2:Well it's, it's like I've been in shock all day, is the best way to put it. Yeah, you know Rogan's reaction was very interesting. I don't know if you saw that, nope, so rogan had god. He was on two and a half men, a crazy druggy guy, yeah, yeah, you know who I'm talking about yeah because I'm blanking right now I know who you mean but anyway he had him on when they heard the news.
Speaker 2:Charlie Sheen, charlie Sheen, there you go, thank you. And yeah, it was, and I finally found that video in your tweets. It was a ways back. Anyway, their reaction, you know, was basically why the hell did they kill him? You know, he just talks and yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and of course you had the media. Oh, it was Mossad. They must have killed Charlie Kirk. It's like dude. Charlie Kirk's gone to Israel multiple times. He's defended Israel. He's argued for people that are wearing Palestinian crap, that they don't understand what this war is about. If there's anyone that's going to kill him, it's not going to be the Israelis. He was very pro-Israel.
Speaker 2:The reason why they were saying that he has recently changed some of his stances.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know. However, we do know that he was on the ukrainian kill list. Now, I don't think that there's been any evidence to say that ukrainians killed him, but it is somewhat damning that they have his name on a kill list and we know that there have been four people that have four americans that have been killed on their kill list. Huh, but then Trump's on there as well.
Speaker 2:Well, and yet we keep sending him money. Yeah, so on to another topic. Okay, thank God for lighter topics. Yeah, have you. Well, have you been tracking the a and m lgbtq stuff? No so you know, texas passed the law saying no dei stuff like that. Well, the president of a and m has been caught still doing it, so there's calls for him to be fired by Governor Abbott. But there was a professor who was teaching this was a children's lit course. So in the education department they're teaching teachers how to teach children's lit, right?
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:And they were bringing in a trans book for kids and one of the students.
Speaker 2:One of the students spoke up and said hey, we, we can't do this, we don't know, and she got kicked out of class. The college admin tried to bully her into silence, but of course she didn't, and now that professor has at least been fired. So you know a and m is one of the more conservative public schools out there. I went there, but I I probably won't send my kids there unless it changes dramatically by the time they're in college. Like the only place I'm sending my kids liberty, not Trump University, I mean, if they want to be a real estate agent.
Speaker 1:Not a bad job, right.
Speaker 2:My mom's a realtor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as I noticed when I moved to Texas, half of Texans are realtors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Anyway, we've got a lot of stuff going on in the world and we are winning the culture war.
Speaker 1:Now, what were you telling me about Poland?
Speaker 2:Poland did a. That was earlier this week as well. Poland called an Article 4 convention to discuss open war with Russia. Maybe you can explain this to me. Why the hell would Russia send drones into Polish airspace? It makes no sense it makes no sense. It sure seems like a false flag.
Speaker 1:It's either human error or computer error, but it makes no sense. Because Russia has a satellite, they don't need drones for surveillance. The only thing those drones are used for in Ukraine is for actual battle. Well, russia is not going to start a war with Poland on purpose. They'll certainly have a reactive battle with Poland if Poland does something stupid, but they're not going to go into Poland willy-nilly, especially not when they've got another front already open.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I do know and I think I told you this when you mentioned it that Poland has.
Speaker 1:It's one of the, in my opinion okay, everything's caveated with my opinion but it's one of the few European countries that actually has a successful militaristic past. Yeah, a lot of skirmishes happened over europe, but most of the countries were concurred. Very few of the countries were conquerors. The poland was one of the conquerors. They actually have a very strong independent spirit and during the soviet era, when they were one of the enclaves of communists the communism in Eastern Europe really controlled by Soviet Russia they were extremely resentful. And that was also where, at least in my experience, where the fall of communism started. When Lech Walesa led the strike uh, the strike of the boat workers there that really turned into a revolt and eventually led to him becoming the president of Poland, and Poland has been, I think, itching for a fight with Russia as payback for at least 100 years, but possibly longer. So consequently, out of all the European countries, I would expect Poland more than any other, maybe with the exception of, like, estonia.
Speaker 2:Or.
Speaker 1:Latvia or Latvia, yeah, maybe with the exception. All three of those are probably going to be equally anti-Russia Because really, during the height of imperial Russia, they were subjects of the Russian Empire. So there is a there's deep resentment there. There is a there's deep resentment there, and there's certainly plenty of people in the US that would love nothing more than to have a second front open up with Russia, using a proxy once again, and not sending any, using American soldiers, but nonetheless always fight wars. You got to have war somewhere. That's how you keep your machine running, your military industrial complex. So I think that there are people in Poland that would love to have a war with Russia. There are people in the US that would love nothing more, lindsey Graham, than to have a second flank open up with a war with Russia, but also without having to have any US casualties. Unfortunately, the bottom line is, from my perspective, is the odds are actually fairly high that Poland will enter a war with Russia.
Speaker 2:Well, and the Article 4 Convention is the first step towards that Exactly, but that news has settled down since then, so we'll see. I know I have two Polish colleagues that I work with quite a bit one who actually works for me that are over in Poland. It's a cheap resource, right, and they are both rather freaked out about it. They do not want a war with Russia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's definitely both sides there. Yeah, I had developers in Ukraine working on quite a few projects in the past and they all moved to Poland.
Speaker 2:Libs of TikTok has been doing God's work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she has been good.
Speaker 2:Calling out to all the people who were celebrating Kirk's death, and she's got several teachers fired, which is a good thing because those people do not need to be teaching children.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think that anybody ought to be hiring him. That's why I said at the beginning I think it's time we stop playing with kid gloves on, start treating these people like who they are. They think everyone around them is a Nazi that doesn't vote for ultra-liberal agenda. Well, it's going to be a lot less comfortable doing that if they can't get jobs. And there's been a strong sort of a push against cancel-coun, cancel control on the rights, like, oh, the left canceling everybody. We need to not do that. My take has always been bullshit. We need to double down and when the right does cancel somebody, like with Bud Light, like with Gay Target or Trans Target or whatever the fuck they were.
Speaker 2:Trans.
Speaker 1:You know, when we start pushing back, it works, Because the other side are pathetic weaklings who yell loudly and then throw rocks, and what we need to do is stop just sitting there and having rocks thrown at us. We need to get up and actually get in their face, because they will crumble like the pieces of shit they are from the extremely first sign that we're going to push back. These people have grown up their entire lives I'm talking about the 20-somethings without anybody from the right ever pushing back. They don't know what a Nazi is, because they think a Nazi is the guy who's going to get insulted all day long and do nothing about it.
Speaker 1:Well start doing things nonviolently that you have a say in. Don't buy from liberals, don't hire liberals, don't do anything that helps them make money. Debank the liberals. Debank the liberals and see what happens.
Speaker 2:Well, I am a little more conservative than that. I, I think we still. You know, we have to not devolve into patterns of our enemies you're gonna get me to start quoting jesus. Back to your intro sure go for it also.
Speaker 1:Today is 9 11 yeah, fuck, given 9 8, I forgot it was 9-11 yeah, wow, it's.
Speaker 2:You know, it's important for people to remember and some of the younger listeners to hear you know, not all of us fell for it just going back and, you know, looking at the footage of, like the Pentagon and everything else, like that was not a plane there's no way, that was a plane.
Speaker 1:Nope. Matthew 1034. Says Do not think they have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set man against his father and the daughter against her mother and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, and once foes will be members of one's own household. What does that say? Quit pretending like we're one nation. We're not one nation. We're two nations at war living in the same place.
Speaker 2:Well, how do we change that?
Speaker 1:We don't. We follow the plan, trust the plan. Okay Q, jesus said it best.
Speaker 2:He also called for his followers who did not have a sword to go out and sell their cloak and buy a sword yes, the gun industry is quite happy, I'm sure well, and one of the things that people there's a. There's a great video, you know, of militant christendom out there, of a young british man, you know, saying talking about melting christendom.
Speaker 2:And there was a good meme today that was mr rogers on one side, and then a figure from you know, the crusades on the other, and it said the christian I want to be above mr rogers. And then the other one said the Christian you're forcing me to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I don't know if you probably didn't watch I'll assume, since you're working all day the video that I reposted on X of the Speaker's Corner with one of my favorite apologists out there. I know Ben may think this is a weird area of youtube videos. I love watching apologist videos. They're fun, but the same dude giving a wonderful I am the christian that speech and yeah, that's the guy I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you did watch it. Yeah, well, I've seen it before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay and it's it is. It's very righteous sounding and it's a good reminder that you know meekness has multiple definitions and it's not the definition of being meek like a mouse and the definition.
Speaker 2:That is the word that is used in the bible, where you know the famous verse for the meek shall inherit the earth, the that is not meek, as in the timid. It is those who are capable of violence but hold back right, who have a sword in their hand and stay their decision until you make them do something.
Speaker 1:So there again, I'm very happy to see that sort of sentiment. There's a couple of groups in the uk and gene.
Speaker 2:There was a shooting apparently today at the naval academy jesus christ a student, a midshipman that had been kicked out, went in acting like he was military police and apparently shot some people. Wow. So you know one of the things with all this. You know, rudyard, from what, if alt has said, we'd be at a thousand you know politically motivated deaths earlier this year. I think he was wrong on his timeline, but not his assessment yep, yep, and I think he's been way more right.
Speaker 1:for somebody that young deserving to be, he's really a young dude?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's in his 20s. Yeah, he's just been doing YouTube since he was 13 years old.
Speaker 1:Did you see Nick Freitas' response? I watched a bunch of Nick's stuff today. Yep, it's, yep, it's. Nick has a very good way with words. I like how Nick phrases things. I think he's he's not overly, you know, high andfalutin kind of, but he he uses the appropriate vocabulary to describe things. I hope he doesn't just quit politics altogether, because that's what he was going to not run again, because we need more people like Nick out there in politics, not less. He was in the Virginia Assembly. He was in the Virginia assembly and I don't know if he still currently is or if he's already retired or not, but he said he wasn't going to run again. Yeah, it's. We definitely have a crazy epidemic and it's high time we start doing something about it. Sorry, and.
Speaker 2:I lost him. I didn it. Sorry, I lost him. I didn't even notice, I was just talking.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying it's high time we start getting Arkham back to being full again, make Arkham great again. That and we need some government jobs programs out there. We got to start building gulags, man. This is. This is an unsustainable way too big of a percentage of our population needs to be incarcerated right now well, I don't know about incarcerated, but well, you don't have to call it incarceration. But they certainly shouldn't be out in the streets. They should be somewhere safe, somewhere where they're going to make us safe.
Speaker 2:Well, and to be clear, a lot of these people previously wouldn't have survived.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yep, the only. I'm not even going to say it, but nevermind. Okay, I've already had too much dark humor today. So, ben, what else is happening in the world? It just keeps pouring, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's. It's been a rough week.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, let's see. By the way, you did see that they put out a $100,000 reward for information leading to an arrest, right, I didn't.
Speaker 1:And why isn't it $10 million?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know who makes that decision. Do decision, do you know, but it's way too long you'd be the governor or whatever. I mean, it's utah, yeah. So israel decided to fuck with qatar. Okay, didn't see that? They bombed right outside of doha because of, uh, moss leadership was supposedly there. Hamas says they didn't kill their leadership, but yada, yada yada, well they were there.
Speaker 1:I mean, if they say they didn't kill their leadership, it kind of proves it.
Speaker 2:Right, but Qatar was a spot where the leadership could go to negotiate and the US had, kind of you know, tried to hold that as a safe space, kind of, you know, tried to hold that as a safe space so to speak. Netanyahu decided to go around Trump, so I think Netanyahu's got to get slapped.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that the best thing that can happen to Israel is for Congress to just vote to cut off all aid to Israel, because Israel just needs to get rid of American chains holding them back. They just need to do what they need to do. Did we lose ben again? We might have lost ben again. I didn't notice we lost ben last time because I was busy talking, but this him not chiming in sounds like we lost ben again. Oh, and he just texted computer crash. All right, listener, we're gonna hit pause and we'll be right back when ben's reconnected. And we got Ben back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know what happened there.
Speaker 1:It's Linux just needing to reboot all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's Windows 11. Anyway, what were we saying, gene? Sorry about that. And then, of course, since it's Windows, when it rebooted it decided oh, now's a perfect time to install this update. Of course you didn't want.
Speaker 1:Oh, apologies, I don't understand why Windows doesn't do it without requiring a reboot, like they should do the updates and then immediately, and then tell you, by the way, the update will be applied next time you reboot. But it should be installed when the computer is running, not before it's running.
Speaker 2:Well, if they're doing anything at the kernel level, though, it would have to be before.
Speaker 1:No no, you can write the files and then they. It's the same process.
Speaker 2:You make everything active in memory.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's no different than if you wanted to reinstall something. You just need to. I mean like large software.
Speaker 2:I was about to hold a press conference on the update the FBI. Well, I a press conference on the update. Who?
Speaker 1:is the FBI. Okay, Well, I wish they would have held it about two hours ago and then we could talk about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, and that's the other thing, man, that this took place in.
Speaker 1:Utah is weird. Yeah, I guess the University of Utah is not as.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not. It wasn't even the University of Utah.
Speaker 1:It. Well, it's not. It wasn't even the University of Utah, it was a smaller school in Utah. Okay, I mean it looked like a pretty big event.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it looked like there were several thousand people there. Anyway, where were we? I don't know, dude, I think Talking about Israel, I think, oh, yeah, and now we're talking about the mountain Jews. The mountain Jews, yeah, mountain jews, the mountain jews, yeah man I'm I, I know we keep trying to move away from it, but we keep kind of going back. I am just, it's just overwhelming. You know it is, it, is it. I've watched and listened to charlie kirk forever.
Speaker 1:Hundreds of hours. I I got comments going to your mom from like two months ago saying I think Charlie is the the brightest candle in the conservative menorah right now.
Speaker 2:I think he could have had a hell of a run in politics too.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Guaranteed. Maybe not a president, but certainly a Senator. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, it was a guy who never went to college well, he did go to college, but he dropped out well, okay, fine, fair enough. Like the rest of us, he went to college and then dropped out, but it's. I have watched Charlie Kirk at least probably 700 hours, but probably over 1,000, honestly, but a minimum of about 700 hours. I would watch him probably at least four or five times a week.
Speaker 2:I don't know that I was that much, but yeah, I love debates, I always love debates.
Speaker 1:This was a topic that is already close to what I enjoy and I like Charlie. I like Charlie because he's a he's a good, rational, peaceful kind of guy. Well, it was, I mean not anymore, but yeah, there's just a lot to like about Charlie. And you know, I like alex jones too, for different reasons. I like I like gadflies like alex jones. Charlie was not a gadfly, charlie was not a in your face kind of argument guy. He was a very just, a nice guy, just a genuinely nice guy. And if you watch his appearance on, what's his face? We just I just mentioned him. He was on yeah, who's the liberal dude that's got a talk show that charlie was on recently bill maher bill maher.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you watch his appearance on Bill Maher, you know Bill was not holding any punches back. He was like yeah, so you know you're like a white separatist or something right, and he was like no, and I think that he genuinely pleasantly surprised Bill Maher in how nice of a guy he was. That's not the reputation that clearly Maher was told about.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's the thing, A lot of the people who are sitting there celebrating Charlie's death and everything never listen to him.
Speaker 1:No, and to that point I think Joe Biden is a crook. He's a criminal. He clearly was doing a whole bunch of shady backroom deals. He's making money illegally Like. The litany of things about him that's bad goes on and on. When he was diagnosed with cancer, I didn't say good, thank God, he deserves cancer. I was like, yeah, those fucking Democrats keep pushing a guy that should have retired 30 years ago or at least 20 years ago. They keep trying to prop him up and pretend that he's well. He's not been well for a long time. He should have been living out his elder years smelling kids, not being president. So I like, and that's a guy who's genuinely a bad actor.
Speaker 2:but so the president, the european parliament, snubs request for charlie kirk minute of silence after assassination yeah, that's not a surprise. Fuck the eu been saying that for a long time okay, victoria well, you know, even the clocks that's broken strikes the correct time once a day, sometimes even twice yeah, so trump is finally looking like he's going through with the senate rule change to get his nominees through good.
Speaker 1:He should do absolutely everything. As far as I'm concerned, he should run a third term or, sorry, a fourth term. He should run for a fourth time and get elected because, fuck them all well, it's good.
Speaker 2:Versus evil.
Speaker 1:Now, this is not two parties within one country. No, there are two countries. One of them is bad, one of them is good. Rules don't apply to them.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think Trump's a little old for that personally.
Speaker 1:Trump is at the appropriate age for having nothing to lose.
Speaker 2:There is some truth in that.
Speaker 1:I am almost at the age where I have nothing to lose.
Speaker 2:Don't get your guns confiscated.
Speaker 1:No, that's the thing I can lose, so I'm not doing anything there. But push comes to shove, dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not doing anything there, but push comes to shove, dude. Yeah, I'm just saying Make sure that you leave me the good ones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you're getting all of them. You're not just getting the good ones, fuck you, you're getting even the bad ones too.
Speaker 2:Right, but the bad ones can get confiscated, just not the good ones.
Speaker 1:I see, I see.
Speaker 2:Use the bad ones for whatever you're going to use. Yeah, you, I see.
Speaker 1:I see, use the bad ones for whatever you're going to use. Yeah, you just want my all my FRT triggers.
Speaker 2:Fuck, yes. Which, by the way, did you see the Palmetto state five, seven pistol with an FRT, I would never get one for that gun ever. Well, I think if you make it into a PDW, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1:If you have a hundred round magazine, maybe, but you any gun that shoots over a thousand rounds per minute needs to have a drum. Without a drum, it's useless, and that's that's the problem with all the pistols is they're so fucking. The slide is so light that it can shoot well over a thousand rounds per minute. Yeah, it's ripping. My ideal speed for a gun in a video game is 600 rounds per minute.
Speaker 1:Is what 600 rounds per minute. Okay, why is what 600 rounds per minute? Okay, why? Because anything faster than that is excessive, it wastes ammo and you end up running out of ammo. Anything slower than that and you don't have sufficient coverage in your shots shot to shot to be able to just move slightly laterally and cut somebody's body in half okay, well, anyway, it's still cool oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, it was cool watching the video it but? A I'm not a guy who gets free ammo for having youtube channel, so I ain't burning ammo. B even if you do get free ammo, it's just such a short, limited amount of time. It's like I think that it took about two and a half seconds to empty a magazine. Yeah, if that maybe two seconds. You know, I'll tell you what I had fun with from a full auto gun is a full auto 22 caliber tommy gun loaded up with 22 cards, and I think it held like 222s in it or something like that. So it was yeah they aim 180.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly there you go. Yeah, 180. So I shot that off. In fact, that was that was my pre-election. Let's see how far back to the do the laws of uh whatchamacallit go back what 86, no, that's not what I'm thinking Like. How far back can I not talk about bad shit I did. What's the phrase for that Statute?
Speaker 2:of limitations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, statute of limitations. I think they're expired. I think I'm safe.
Speaker 2:Well, the statute only applies statute of limitations only applies when the government knows about the crime and doesn't bring charges If they don't know about the crime. There's no solution.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I'm not going to talk about it then.
Speaker 2:Mike Rowe today was saying it feels like someone shot the First Amendment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally, mike Rowe's a good guy. He's another good guy.
Speaker 2:A&M was going to have a vigil. The students were trying to have a vigil for early last night and they had to cancel it because of security concerns.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Because apparently there were some threats made.
Speaker 1:If you let threats change your behavior the students ended up doing it anyway. Good, good, good, because you know, know, some people may not know this, but that is literally the definition of terrorism is actions meant to change people's behavior. Yeah, that's terrorism. Theism is exactly what happened with Charlie. It was essentially a terrorist action because they want to silence people that do what Charlie does. Steven Crowder, ben Shapiro, anybody that's ever done a prove me wrong thing.
Speaker 2:Well, and Crowder's got to watch it, because you know he does the whole campus. Prove me wrong absolutely. I think crowder's gonna stop doing this well, I think that there's going to be. I think there's going to be some targeting of people, but if we, if they, stop doing them, then it's successful terrorism, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, if you change your behavior to the terrorists, win, and what you have to do is eliminate the terrorists, no matter what building they're hiding in.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We have to stop thinking of evil people as Americans. They've walked away from being American.
Speaker 2:Othering is very dangerous.
Speaker 1:And they shouldn't other themselves, but they have. They have blue hair and those rings. That's their standard uniform. Not to say they can't go incognito and pretend to be somebody else, but given that opportunity to let their evil shine through. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 2:The assistant dean of students at Mountain State University has been fired, effective immediately after celebrating Charlie Kirk's passing.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:None of them should have a job. This is great, marco Rubio Department of State will ban any foreigner from entering the country. Who celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk online? Good.
Speaker 1:They should ban every person that's in this country already from doing anything.
Speaker 2:There was a vigil. A leftist asshole rode through a Charlie Kirk vigil in front of Idaho State Capitol yelling fuck Charlie Kirk. And then they beat the shit out of him.
Speaker 1:I didn't see anything. I didn't see anyone beating anyone.
Speaker 2:They surrounded and beat the shit out of him, dude.
Speaker 1:Didn't see a damn thing. I just saw people having a vigil. And then it got quiet because the guy that was yelling stopped the yelling Mm-hmm, yep. And then it got quiet because the guy that was yelling stopped yelling yep.
Speaker 2:It's time to stop letting evil win well, I don't know man, they it's the. You know, they still haven't found him, the shooter, and there's only one way I think they're gonna find them is if somebody brags I don't know, but we need justice. We need justice to be served and not anything else, like we don't need revenge except through the legal system I disagree.
Speaker 1:I think we need revenge, not through the legal system. I think people need to start personally taking responsibility to keep evil from prospering. Hmm, we need to start a fire, a Democrat campaign.
Speaker 2:Yeah, new York Yankees gave Charlie Kirk. They did a moment of silence for him.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:That was classy of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, did they take a knee afterwards though? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Man, I just don't know what else to talk about and I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no it's, it is overwhelming yeah.
Speaker 2:Someone needs to pick up the mantle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure somebody will. I mean, there are many people, many men south park pulled their episode I did, yeah, yeah chicken shit yeah, I I would agree with that. I think that was a chicken shit move they should have. There's no reason to pull it, it's not you can.
Speaker 1:you can joke and say south park killed him, but obviously there's no direct real connection there, because what they're pointing out is the fact that this is how the left always sees people on the right. So South Park making fun of people is not indoctrination indoctrination. Nancy pelosi, barack obama, though, and all the lefties constantly for over a decade calling everybody.
Speaker 1:They disagree with the nazi a white separatist and it just you do that for a decade to people that are in their teens and, like it or not, that is their truth. That is what they believe now. It's the same reason that the military is made up of 18 to 22-year-old men. They will do what you tell them because they'll believe what you tell them to believe. What you tell them. Because they'll believe what you tell them to believe. Older men will have doubts. They'll start asking questions and thinking about the morality of it all. Young men will just do.
Speaker 2:Older men have kids and families to protect.
Speaker 1:But even beyond that I don't think it's just a matter of kids and families you start seeing the world as a much more gray place as you get older, but then an event like this happened and you realize that maybe you've been seeing things a little too gray and they're really a lot more black and white after all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you see? Massey was telling Trump to calm down on the rhetoric.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:After this, massey, there's a lot of rhetoric and the president himself engages in it. He should probably tone that down himself.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I don't think Donald Trump's rhetoric has ever been at a point where no, I don't either. Lefts is.
Speaker 1:I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
Speaker 2:On that one the biggest thing he's ever said that you could point to would be lock her up yeah, and then we should have frank.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they were definitely going to lock him up yeah absolutely. Oh, then did you see that grantham has said that they're going to increase the number of videos to talk about Evade and yeah, he's doing his civilian evasion stuff, yep. He said they're going to bump that up to a couple more episodes a month.
Speaker 2:What do you think? Why do you think he's doing that?
Speaker 1:Because he sees it coming. He knows it's coming.
Speaker 2:Well, or is he a fed?
Speaker 1:Well, I mean he was, but I mean like present tense yeah, I I don't know, but I think that he's too goofy to be a fed, frankly, but I will say that it's his. I was apprehensive of watching that because I've seen some really good experts in this field, but the guy that he had on on one of the episodes then when he was doing another one I watched was very good. It was exactly right on the money. Very not like I'm an expert in this by any stretch, but I've seen enough people talking about how to survive in a situation like that and how to evade detection, how to scrounge supplies, and what he's doing on on his version of that is exactly the same thing. It's not. It's not like you know bearded white man buries his pocket watch in the backyard, kind of shit. Or you know future trading opportunity it's genuine. How do you read?
Speaker 2:And from a seer standpoint. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I'm just going to say it, Ben, we need to bring witch trials back for all the blue hair. Yeah, yeah, for the evil out there. We need to start fighting evil. I'm going to, I'm getting ready to sign up. Hi Uh-huh, because this is this should not have happened Of all the people that should have had. Sure he had risk of, you know, violent eruptions happening in his events, but there should have been very little risk of actual death to him.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, like someone like Alex Jones, I can say yeah, way more risk, yeah.
Speaker 1:They're making the frogs gay. They are, they are. We know it for a fact now. Alex was saying this 20 years ago. People thought he was crazy. People just didn't understand science, that's all well, it's his bombastic way of speaking which I love. I love the entertainment value there and I, in fact, I sent a video to your mom. The above, above old Alex, being very bombastic, from the good old days, I was like man I, I really miss this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Cause. Ever since the trial, Alex has been a lot more reserved.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean getting you know, uh, getting fine the GDP of uh of.
Speaker 1:France yeah, exactly Okay. Speaking of France, yeah, they're collapsing. Yes, their government has officially collapsed. Marie Le Pen looks like a frontrunner. The Trans Administration looks like it's on the way out. It doesn't really solve the problem there unless something changes. So if she ends up getting in, are we going to see mass expulsions of people from france?
Speaker 2:yes, we will, and they're all going to go to the uk no, because the uk is going to be in the same thing, by the way, did you see? So the uk government is going to have some similar issues and then I don't know who.
Speaker 1:In the UK there's nobody in politics that could lead them. Farage, not anymore. Have you seen Farage? Lately he's become total chicken shit.
Speaker 2:Okay, We'll see Canada. I think Mark Carney is going to drive that government. That government's not going to stand very long either, so I don't know. I think we'll see some information here.
Speaker 1:We need to take over the Canadian provinces that want to be a part of us anyway and then start building the fucking gulags. Man, we cannot have evil people living among us.
Speaker 2:So anything more to say on France.
Speaker 1:On what France? Oh no, it was mostly that their government had officially collapsed and that the new government opens up the possibility of Marine Le Pen getting in there, who is probably the most conservative of the bunch of French politicians that, at least that we've heard of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you see the Vax stuff I sent you earlier? Yeah, yeah, I did, I did, I'd seen clips of that before this documentary that's going to be coming out here shortly on the Henry Ford study of vaccinated versus unvaccinated birth cohort study. It's pretty big and there was Senate testimony. You know there was congressional testimony rather on it. I sent you the congressional testimony video. Did you get to watch any of that?
Speaker 1:I did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pretty fucking damning if true.
Speaker 1:It's always been, though it's always been.
Speaker 2:I want to see the study because I'm not going to just go out there, but if what they were saying in Congressional Testimony was true, then holy shit and the fact that it has not been published. Yeah, yeah, it should be criminal yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, it hasn't been published because it's going to ruin the whole market. Obviously that's why, but I I think the the nexus of the study or I wish the one said nexus but one of the key findings is that there is no known autistic person in existence who wasn't vaccinated. That autism is. I don't know if that's true or not. That's what the study concludes.
Speaker 1:It's absolutely the case that autism does not exist in a population of unvaccinated people. It is a byproduct of vaccination. It is a genetic mutation caused by something I'm not gonna. I don't want to guess as to what part of the vaccine is causing it, but something in the vaccine is causing genetic mutations that lead to that disease. So we've been vaccinating people for a very long time, you know indeed, and so this is going to be think. The argument against the study is saying that the reason you're not finding people that have these diseases like autism in the vaccinated populations because the vaccinated population is so large in comparison to the unvaccinated population. There are no Amish people at all that have autism. The Amish is not a genetic strain. It is a religious-based community.
Speaker 2:They are kind of ethnic in a way as well, though.
Speaker 1:They're not opposed to new members joining. They have plenty of members leaving. I'm sure there are families that can trace their history back to Germany, when they left and moved to the United States, but that's not to say that all of them are, and the places where they did come from, originally in germany all vaccinate and do have autism. Okay there. My point is simply that there are often risks associated with new, novel treatments.
Speaker 1:Vaccine isn't considered novel anymore because we've been doing it for such a long time. However, if the risks of developing things have been found, but then the studies were kept quiet about those findings, it doesn't prove that vaccines are safe. It simply says that the vaccine industry is very powerful and the fact that they can't be sued is insane. Like no other industry can create a product that causes permanent harm to a human and be excluded from lawsuits by the government. Like no other industry exists like that. How many times have gun makers been sued? Yeah, and we all know it's the person holding a gun by itself has never killed a person, except for sig, sig, but other than Sig guns, no other manufacturers, no, actually it looks like that airman ended up being shot by his buddy.
Speaker 2:You're kidding? No, really. Yeah, that guy's been arrested.
Speaker 1:Okay, good. So I don't know, man, it's that it's tough to talk about anything else right now, given given what's going on with charlie.
Speaker 2:So I think, yeah, my focus is elsewhere right now for people who are interested in the documentary we're talking about. It's an.
Speaker 1:It's going to be at inconvenience studycom yeah, and they've been posting clips from it for probably a month now. Yeah, so you can find plenty of clips online. But yeah, I look, I think RFK is proved that he is doing exactly what he should be.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, exactly, and I know people are disappointed that he isn't doing more and other people are like, oh, he's just cool Like everybody else. No, I think he is doing exactly what. He is exactly what he and trump talked about initially when he pulled out of running for president and, honestly, if biden would have pulled out, I think many more people would picked RFK as the nominee than Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So, if anything, he jumped ship to join forces with Trump, even though he would have been the most likely candidate to run as a Democrat if the party wasn't a total machine and decided, without any primaries, to just annoying a woman because it's a woman's turn.
Speaker 2:Fuck that shit well, I don't think, I don't think she had a chance in hell of winning. Gavin newsom's gonna be the next one, so yeah, yeah, let's see how newscom is I bet he does better than we think.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm sure they're already rigging a whole bunch of stuff. He's a total piece of shit. The faster we bankrupt California the better. I think we should block all government money going into California, have the whole state burn, then federalize the land and then sell it off to private parties After we put everybody into the insane asylums. Dude, if I was the dictator right now, man, you would see some changes happening. I mean okay, I would fix this in 48 hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how's that?
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. I'd create a jobs program like never seen before. We would have 0% unemployment. We'd have zero immigration illegal immigration coming. We'd have the unemployment. We'd have zero immigration, illegal immigration coming. We'd have the immigrants that are already here would be running out of the country Wanting to get back to wherever the hell they came from, and we would not have mentally ill people running around on the loose. We'd wipe out communism and mental illness at the same time.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know how you're going to wipe out mental illness. Very simple Asylums, right, but that doesn't wipe it out. Sure it does. How so?
Speaker 1:Keeps them away from civil society.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that doesn't wipe it out.
Speaker 1:It does, because people in civil society will never need to see anybody with mental illness again.
Speaker 2:Okay. Next thing you're going to tell me is we need a eugenics program.
Speaker 1:next thing you're going to tell me is we need a eugenics program.
Speaker 2:I'm on the record saying eugenics is not a bad thing, it's just how you apply it I think, if people choose to do something personally for themselves and for their children, that's one. I think government force is another.
Speaker 1:You're for the eugenics of the parents deciding which of the embryos to bring to term.
Speaker 2:I think you have to, but I think it's a scary prospect and I think it's going to lead to Gattaca, yeah.
Speaker 1:Which is inevitable anyway, if we don't kill ourselves first, gattaca will be inevitable. I hope not. People are already doing it. It's just not in this country, but it is definitely a thing in other countries right now.
Speaker 2:You saw, china is getting rid of the need for women.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:If they actually pull that off, it's not going to be good like this will not be a good thing for humanity.
Speaker 1:I don't know too early to tell. Too early to tell in my opinion. But yeah, we just need to stop letting evil win, that's all.
Speaker 2:Alright, man. Well, I think we've beat a dead horse.
Speaker 1:Please Ben, it hasn't been that long yet. What, calling Charlie a horse?
Speaker 2:I'm not.
Speaker 1:Alright, I don't think you should. Alright With that, let's go ahead and.
Speaker 2:Surveillance footage of the shooter jumping off the building after the show.
Speaker 1:I think there were several videos that I saw of people jumping off the building.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is the first time I've seen this one and I've been on Twitter way too much. I'll send it to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, send me that one and see if I've seen that one or not. I will. I in fact there's one video of a guy that's running across the roof that was shot on a cell phone that I commented on and I said I clearly Call of Duty bros have seen this enough times to know what it is yeah.
Speaker 2:They just released this during the press conference.
Speaker 1:I'll check it out and, on that note, we will catch y'all later. Hopefully next week will be a little more chipper and bright and not as depressing.
Speaker 2:And hopefully we're not as bad as this week. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But maybe not. Maybe we'll have truly a war by then. See you all next week.
