SPEAKER_03: 0:25

Well, howdy, Ben. How are you today?

SPEAKER_01: 0:27

Good, Gene. Glad you're not sweating your balls off anymore.

SPEAKER_03: 0:31

Not any longer.

SPEAKER_01: 0:33

I wonder how much weight you lost in your sauna experience over the last.

SPEAKER_03: 0:37

I I actually can tell you. 11 pounds. You're shitting me. No, no. It was 11 degrees and we asked about a pump today.

SPEAKER_00: 0:47

Oh, you better be drinking water, dude.

SPEAKER_03: 0:51

I am. I mean, I'm drinking like a gallon a day at this point.

SPEAKER_00: 0:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 0:55

But yeah, it's it was not a fun experience. I will say I have very mixed feelings about complaining about it because it's such first world problems. And it's it's such you know pansy ass kind of shit to complain about is the fact that it's a little warm in my house. So part of me is like, this is bullshit. I'm I'm paying to have everything working, they shouldn't take a week to fix things. This ought to be fixed immediately. But but part of me has to laugh about it too and say, My God, you know, every summer I spent on the farm, we didn't have fucking air conditioning.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:35

You know, uh we had an outhouse for Christ's sakes. So it's not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. It's it's inconvenient, it's annoying. I was a little worried about my snakes, but I guess technically they come from you know warm weather climates, like Indonesia and stuff, and Africa. So so they they were just lethargic, they just did not want to move or do anything, didn't want to eat, didn't want to move, didn't want to drink, just like laid there and chilled, and then moved around a little bit at night. But I think that's that's more of honestly. I can't say I did a whole lot different than the snakes at this point.

SPEAKER_01: 2:21

So Austin city law uh ordinances require all rental properties to have AC, and the AC must be able to keep the indoor temperature at below 85 degrees and at least 15 degrees cooler than the outside temperatures. And if it is over 85, and this varies by city in Texas, that's why I'm looking it up. But if it was over 85, which it was, they are required to fix it in three days.

SPEAKER_03: 2:50

Yep. Which, yeah, it makes sense, you know. I agree.

SPEAKER_01: 2:56

Well, I mean, part of it is I I know you don't want to bitch and everything else, but you know, you you're you're not a small guy, you've got some health stuff. I know he he dying of heat is a rare.

SPEAKER_03: 3:09

I also lost 10 pounds, dude. You know, that's not a bad thing.

SPEAKER_00: 3:13

That's a lot, man.

SPEAKER_03: 3:15

It's a silver lining, it's a silver lining on this whole thing. Now, I probably gained like three of those back already since the AC got fixed, and I've started eating again. But because yeah, I don't know if you've noticed this, but when it's really hot, there's very few things you feel like eating. Like you could eat watermelon, you could eat some fried chicken, you can eat some stuff that's kind of picnicky, right?

SPEAKER_01: 3:37

But shrimp's always my go-to there, but yes.

SPEAKER_03: 3:39

What? Shrimp. Oh, shrimp, yeah, yeah. I could eat shrimp when it's when it's hot out, but you don't feel like having any kind of heavy foods, right? Right. So I again I'm I'm treating this as a not a fun experience, but I'm putting a silver lining on it.

SPEAKER_01: 3:59

It's like you're you treat it as fat camp. It's okay.

SPEAKER_03: 4:02

Yeah, yeah. It's it's fine. It's fine. Not that big a deal.

SPEAKER_01: 4:08

Well, I'm glad that the AC's back, and uh I did not travel this week, so there's that yeah. I'm traveling again next week, though.

SPEAKER_03: 4:17

Okay, okay, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 4:19

Uh uh tell me if this doesn't sound retarded, but I have to fly to Dallas for a meeting, then I have to fly back to Houston to fly to Birmingham to drive to Montgomery because there are no good flights directly to Montgomery.

SPEAKER_03: 4:36

That makes sense. I mean, can't you just drive direct to Montgomery or you just don't want to drive that far?

SPEAKER_01: 4:44

I don't want to drive that far.

SPEAKER_03: 4:45

Okay. Yeah, and you also technically don't need to go back to Houston. You can just take American Airlines and fly right out of Dallas to your next stop, but you don't want to do that either.

SPEAKER_01: 4:56

No. No. Why would I want to give American Airlines any of my money?

SPEAKER_03: 4:59

Yeah, there you go. So yeah, I I just I don't care at this point. I've got no status with anybody anymore. Not American, not United, so I'm just gonna go for convenience. And I mean in price, but convenience.

SPEAKER_01: 5:20

Well, I will be back up to gold, at least with United on this one. So and that gets you a lot of benefits, dude.

SPEAKER_03: 5:28

Well, it does, but American always sends me every end of year, they're like, hey, we know you haven't been flying much. Do you want to just pay us some money and get get the gold status?

SPEAKER_01: 5:38

And yeah, but do you know how expensive that is now?

SPEAKER_03: 5:41

God, yeah, yeah. I mean, it it is. That's the thing, is like status doesn't really do diddly squat for me because I I fly first no matter what, anyway. And status is really that's the main benefit of status is upgrades. If you take upgrades out of the equation of status, what's the advantage?

SPEAKER_01: 6:03

Free bags, free check bags, uh you get for all of your party anyway. You get two free bags for all of your party. No, like I get with gold, I get up to like four bags per person, up to eight people.

SPEAKER_03: 6:17

Four bags, Jesus.

SPEAKER_01: 6:18

Yes, uh anyway. I mean it's significant boarding group, early, extra leg room at time to get a bigger one.

SPEAKER_03: 6:25

Yeah, boarding group is tied to the ticket class. Yes, you pay for first, you get in right away.

SPEAKER_01: 6:30

The only people ahead of you are military, and those with status to pre-board.

SPEAKER_03: 6:35

Well, what do you mean? You mean like sick people?

SPEAKER_01: 6:39

No, like if in terms of United, the like 1K or Global Services members board.

SPEAKER_03: 6:46

Oh, no, no, no. Those don't the global services equivalent for American. Yes, the people that pay 50 grand a year to American, they board before the people just paid 1500 to American. Exactly. But as far as just regular status level people, they don't board for me.

SPEAKER_01: 7:03

Okay. So except when I'm in line first and I have gold because I board with the first class people with gold.

SPEAKER_03: 7:15

Right. So you're boarding with the first class people, you're not boarding ahead of them.

SPEAKER_01: 7:18

Except I get in line first. I always like to be the six in the first time.

SPEAKER_03: 7:23

So if you and I are in the same flight, we're both gonna be there an hour ahead of time.

SPEAKER_00: 7:27

Yeah, I will stand there twenty for 20 minutes, mothermark. Exactly. I have a spot for my overhead bag, I'm gonna sit my happy ass down and watch everybody else file in.

SPEAKER_03: 7:36

Yeah, no, the the best the best is when you're first aboard and your seat is 1A.

SPEAKER_00: 7:41

Exactly, because you're first on, first off.

SPEAKER_03: 7:45

Yep, first on, first off, and everybody has to stop and wait for you to put your shit away. Yep, I gotta dig out my laptop, get my iPad, put on my 3D glasses, put everything else away, and then okay, I'm gonna sit down now. Y'all can move along. I'm not trying to be an asshole, it's just you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 8:04

Well, that's a side effect. You kinda are it's a side effect. I don't think that's a side effect. Do you think it's um so government shutdown?

SPEAKER_03: 8:14

And has anyone know? Well, okay, I a couple of people have mentioned they noticed to me who aren't getting salaries paid right now. But other than that, has anyone noticed?

SPEAKER_01: 8:24

And Trump's talking about not doing the back pay thing.

SPEAKER_03: 8:29

That'll be interesting. Because I mean, yes, I get it for people that aren't working, but one of our, in fact, one of our listeners here is active military and is working.

SPEAKER_01: 8:41

He's not gonna do that to them, but people who are not actively working.

SPEAKER_03: 8:50

He's actually actively involved in the whole Chicago thing, and they're not getting paid. But the mortgages payments still have to be made. So, this is one of those points where you know you kind of hope that people have some savings to live off of until they get that payment coming in. But yeah, for people that are furloughed, the people that are literally like they're not working because the government is shut down. I don't think they'll get paid for that. That's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01: 9:17

Well, and Trump's looking at instead if this goes on too long, instead of furloughing them, firing them.

SPEAKER_03: 9:23

Yeah, totally. Which would actually be better for them anyway, because then they start collecting unemployment and they should start looking for real jobs. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 9:33

But what a way to cut government.

SPEAKER_03: 9:35

I've always been a huge fan of the government shutdowns. I remember the new Gingrich one, I remember the uh the first Trump one, and I can't remember if there was any under Bush or not, but uh there was, and there was one under Obama.

SPEAKER_01: 9:48

I I think I really think we ought to. So the only problem, the only way it's gonna affect my life is when TSA starts calling in sick and doing all that, and the air traffic controllers and stuff like that. That's gonna fuck with me, right? Because you're gonna have missed flights, cancel flights and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03: 10:07

Well, but that that's just an argument for privatizing all the time.

SPEAKER_01: 10:10

It's exactly what I was about to say. That's why it should be privatized.

SPEAKER_03: 10:14

Yep, shouldn't be tied to a government budget, which is something that is full of pork, and for every legitimate expense, there's tons, as we know from what doge has done, there's tons and tons of waste in the government. So why the hell?

SPEAKER_01: 10:29

Well, and that's I don't understand what Chucky Schumer is trying to do here because he just gave Trump a method to go through and impose the Doge cuts legitimately.

SPEAKER_03: 10:42

What did he do?

SPEAKER_01: 10:43

Shut down the government. Oh, yeah, yeah. So the the executive branch has ultimate discretion until Congress acts.

SPEAKER_03: 10:54

You know, I hadn't thought of that. You're absolutely right.

unknown: 10:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 10:59

If the legislature is not willing to put a budget together, then it's literally up to the executives.

SPEAKER_01: 11:09

Yep. Trump has to conserve what money he can and you know, run for as long as possible.

SPEAKER_03: 11:15

I would run for two terms, is what I'm thinking. That would be about good. Can you imagine if this if this lasted until after the elections? How awesome would that be?

SPEAKER_01: 11:25

It won't.

SPEAKER_03: 11:26

But how awesome would it be though, huh?

SPEAKER_01: 11:28

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, it would be great. But did you see that did you see that Trump is diverting some of the tariff funds to keep like the women and children's food bank open and stuff like that? Like he's being very, very he's being very intelligent about playing to the hearts and minds of people.

SPEAKER_03: 11:48

Yeah. Not a fan of that myself, but okay.

SPEAKER_01: 11:53

Yeah, well, I'm just telling you, it I thought it was a smart move.

SPEAKER_03: 11:57

Yeah. It's a good, it's a smart political move for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 12:01

Like, I I just don't understand what the Democrats are thinking because you know they're saying that.

SPEAKER_03: 12:06

Wait, he said those two words together like they mean something.

SPEAKER_01: 12:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, they are giving Trump an opportunity if he takes it. I think he's probably gonna have to wait a good while into the shutdown before he starts going, okay, they've taken too long, I've got to do this. But then he can fire people, he can do all this. I I think you know, they they're handing him all of this while standing up and saying, No, no, we want tax the Obama healthcare tax credits, and we want you know health care for anyone who's here.

SPEAKER_03: 12:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 12:44

You know, they're they're they're not directly saying illegals, but that's what ends up happening.

SPEAKER_03: 12:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Yeah, and it's yeah, it it just feels so backwards because they're not only they want to provide free health care to people that aren't even U.S. citizens and are in the country illegally to begin with, but those of us that are on actual insurance and have to be paying thousands of dollars a month to an insurance company who then gets to tell us what we can and can't have for medical treatment. Like the doctor is secondary and is behind the insurance companies. Uh, unless you're an illegal immigrant, in which case you don't worry about insurance because the government's picking up the debt. Yeah, it's it's insane, man.

SPEAKER_01: 13:38

While we're uh talking about insurance, fucking dental insurance, dude. Yeah, I have I have one crown. I got it fairly recently. Yeah, and I don't know what happened, but apparently I swallowed it. I've done that, yeah. Yeah, but because it's I was freaked out when that happened.

SPEAKER_03: 13:58

Sorry to direct you, but I'm I I had to calm myself by reading online that this is a very common occurrence, it's not a big deal, I'll just pass right through.

SPEAKER_01: 14:07

Right, and if you can find it, the dentist will tell you, yeah, we'll put it in the autoclave, it'll be fine. I know, no, and I'm like, I'm not looking, I'm not looking.

SPEAKER_03: 14:15

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01: 14:16

But but anyway, dental insurance is gonna fuck me and not pay anything on it because it's been too soon.

SPEAKER_03: 14:22

That's correct, that's correct. I have historically found that dental insurance is not worth the money because you end up paying as much for it over the course of several years as they cover, unless you do one of these, like no insurance, you get insurance, then you go max out the insurance limit, then you cancel it immediately. Thing, but if you just can't consistently have it, and if you're the one paying for it, not a company, and I I this is my bias generally on all insurance, since I'm paying all insurance out of pocket, full amount. It's not like some people like, oh, I only pay like fifty dollars a month for my uh insurance for my company. Yeah, but your company pays a thousand bucks, so you're fifty dollars in doing jack shit, it's a tiny percentage of what the company takes care of. So, and then when you're your own company like I am, it's all coming out of my money, right? That entire amount, and of course, I get a phone call right when we're doing recording.

SPEAKER_01: 15:20

You can always also negotiate, right? So, for instance, I've talked to the dentist that did this crown, and I'm saying, Hey, this shouldn't have come off.

SPEAKER_03: 15:30

That's absolutely right. You could sue the dentist, that's the other thing you could do.

SPEAKER_01: 15:33

Yeah, I'm not, but they they're gonna work with me on it, so they're gonna cover a bunch of it.

SPEAKER_03: 15:39

So it's all my dad had a like a year ago or so, he was getting a tooth implant or a couple of them, and on one of them, the doctor, when he was drilling, apparently over drilled or something, and so when they put it in the post, because you know what they do is they they drill into your jaw and then they implant a post in there, a stud, whatever you want to call it, and then wait for that to heal, and then they stick the tooth on top of that. Well, anyway, long story short, is uh one of his teeth was fine. The other one that he kind of suspected the doctor had fucked up did come out like the post never really fully seated in the bone, the hole was too big, blah blah blah blah blah. So, same kind of situation as far as the insurance company was like, Well, we paid out on that tooth, we're not paying anything on that tooth forward, it's done as far as we're concerned. Doctor was like, Well, I'll give you your money back that was your co-payment that the insurance didn't pay. Hell no, yeah, no, because insurance ain't gonna cover it again, and you got the money from insurance, you got a good chunk of that. So you're and in the end, he kind of threatened them with a lawsuit, and they ended up taking it on their board of advisement for the dentist office, which probably the same people, you know, dentists, a couple of dentists that work there, and decided just to pay him the full amount, including what the insurance paid, so that he could then personally pay for that to have be redone somewhere else. But it's like, and it's not like it's gonna be an easy redo. I mean, it's no matter what they'll have to do a bone graph, and and then that's fucked up. You're gonna have to graft new bone on, have that all fuse with your current bone, drill into that, and then have it. I mean, it's a multi-year process, so I don't know if he's ever gonna get his tooth.

SPEAKER_01: 17:32

But uh at his age, what he should do is just say screw it and put in a bridge.

SPEAKER_03: 17:38

Well, at his age, what I would do is just say screw it and not worry about the tooth. Because honestly, you'd and and at his age is 86. So it's funny to me that your dad's.

SPEAKER_02: 18:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 18:08

Yeah. Totally. Well, you got an old mom. What can I say? I'm I'm probably closer to your dad's age than your mom is to your dad's age.

SPEAKER_01: 18:24

How old are you?

SPEAKER_03: 18:26

How old am I now? 54.

SPEAKER_01: 18:30

No, my dad's 70.

SPEAKER_03: 18:33

Oh, you said he was 69.

SPEAKER_01: 18:35

Oh, he turned 70 in February. Last month? February? February.

SPEAKER_03: 18:40

Oh, so you lied about his age. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 18:42

No, no, no. He just turned he turns 70.

SPEAKER_03: 18:44

Yeah, but I talked to him three weeks ago.

SPEAKER_01: 18:48

Oh, he's gonna be 70.

SPEAKER_03: 18:49

So he is 69. So you're lying about his age. Okay.

unknown: 18:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 18:53

I'm rounding up. 15 years, 15 years, and then your mom just turned out.

SPEAKER_01: 18:57

No, my mom and my mom and dad are 10 years apart. Yeah, 10 and years and a few months. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 19:01

All right. Well, yeah. But either way, I forgot how young your dad was versus your mom. Yeah. Which, you know, usually the 10 years of the if it's that much, it usually goes in the opposite direction.

SPEAKER_01: 19:14

Yeah. Well. I don't know what to tell you there, bud. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03: 19:21

Oh that's uh, I mean, your mom does not look older than your dad, I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_01: 19:28

No, my mom has aged extremely well.

SPEAKER_03: 19:30

He her birthday, she was dancing and jumping around and running around.

SPEAKER_01: 19:35

And that was before her knee surgery.

SPEAKER_03: 19:38

Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_01: 19:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 19:41

Yeah, so good for her. I think she was happy for me too.

SPEAKER_01: 19:48

That oh easily, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 19:51

Well, that's probably not that hard.

SPEAKER_01: 19:54

No, it is not. Alright, so government shut down over health care for illegals.

SPEAKER_03: 20:01

Mm-hmm. For sure. So, shall we talk about women's Olympics next?

SPEAKER_00: 20:11

All the AI.

SPEAKER_03: 20:13

I would pay good money for a pay-per-view. I would freaking buy whatever channel wants to sell me those viewings for the uh women's Olympics because they're freaking awesome. People that are going, what are you talking about? The Olympics aren't just go on X. Yeah, if you go on X and you search for Women's Olympics Games, Women's Olympic Games, you'll start getting a bunch of videos that pop up of all kinds of innovative new sports that frankly should be in the Olympics. Sports like washing dishes, sports like uh speed vacuuming.

SPEAKER_01: 20:53

There are dozens of my favorite one was bringing the husband a beer.

SPEAKER_03: 20:59

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Timed bringing a husband a beer. Yeah, yeah, there's a dozen different sports, and there's you know what looks like 20-something athletes wearing typical.

SPEAKER_00: 21:12

And we gotta say, these are actually pretty good. They're really videos, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 21:17

This this is done very well. Whoever came up with this, unfortunately, it's using Sora and AI, but you know, I would pay for the real thing, and I'll bet you a real thing could be organized if there was enough money put into something like that. You could totally set up a real and much like the video, it would have to take place in Japan, it'd have to be someplace where they don't have this bullshit view of women as oh, well, you don't you don't want to offend their sensibilities by letting an Olympic sport like washing dishes be in there. No, no, no. In Japan, that would totally float. That would be just oh yeah. Uh considering some of the things they would have competitive bukake. That literally is a thing that like yeah. I've seen like women's how do we phrase this delicately, women's athletic championships on pulling carts with men behind them. Yeah. As a sport that's filmed. Yeah, I mean, there's all kinds of shit there. And they just don't, they they have the least amount of sexual hang-ups.

SPEAKER_01: 22:31

And uh Germans are up there too.

SPEAKER_03: 22:35

Germans are a little different. I mean, they both do weird shit, but in Japan, like when you go to the baths, you're naked with people of the opposite sex. In Germany, if you go to the bath, you're naked with a bunch of gay dudes.

SPEAKER_01: 22:51

Well, why are you going to a public bath?

SPEAKER_03: 22:54

Well, for the naked gay dudes, obviously, whales. But I'm bumped. No, Germany has got I think Germany is just into ass a lot. That's it's more of their thing. Where the Japanese are just in like, you know, you've seen Japanese manga octopuses. What the fuck, man? Yeah, octopi. Yeah, uh octopodes. They're uh into all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_01: 23:23

Well, and but that's come to the US now.

SPEAKER_03: 23:27

Yeah, a lot of that has I agree.

SPEAKER_01: 23:29

I mean, the US is doing a lot of the real life uh live action hentai stuff and all that.

SPEAKER_00: 23:37

Like it's it's high production value a year. You should not Google things.

SPEAKER_03: 23:45

No, no, you should no definitely do not Google whatever you do, kids.

SPEAKER_00: 23:50

Don't Google German Scheiße poor.

SPEAKER_03: 23:53

No, no, no, no, no. Um now I will say I think most of that is from the 90s, but still, yeah, don't so don't get on that down the path.

SPEAKER_01: 24:03

Anything else on the Women's Olympics as well. I think it's super creative.

SPEAKER_03: 24:06

I I love seeing that they're all wearing uniforms of their countries, they've got cute little aprons with their country flags on them. I mean, it's like, and the expressions on these women's faces are like they're really trying hard. So something you'll never see in America on a woman. So by the way, you know, my dad thinks I don't like women. I was like, dude, the reason I'm critical of things that are man-ish that women do is because I do like women and I want women to be feminine the way that they naturally would be if it wasn't for propaganda coming from a variety of sources, most of which are socialists. So yeah, it's I don't want this to be misconstrued at all. It's like the the happiest women you're gonna have are women in traditional female roles.

SPEAKER_01: 25:07

So did you see the left freaking out about the rumor that Trump was going to put a massive Jesus statue on the White House grounds?

SPEAKER_03: 25:16

Like for Christmas?

SPEAKER_01: 25:19

No, like a permanent installation in in the president's park.

SPEAKER_03: 25:24

Oh, no, I did not hear that.

SPEAKER_01: 25:27

Yeah, and like their news stories all over no no, it's not true, it's not true. Yeah, and yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 25:36

I don't I don't see what the problem is, honestly.

SPEAKER_01: 25:39

Well, blue sky was aflame with it.

SPEAKER_03: 25:42

So blue sky is basically non-existent. I watched a video on it recently, a couple days ago, talking about the user trends, and like there's there's measurements that you can get on blue sky in interactions and things. Yeah, blue sky is about one-tenth of the size that it was two years ago.

SPEAKER_01: 26:03

Well, uh a lot of people left after the Charlie thing.

SPEAKER_03: 26:08

And I I think a lot of people left before the Charlie thing, too. And uh some of the people, I mean, there they're like there's people leaving on both sides. There's people living that are a little too centrist for it, and there are definitely people leaving that think blue sky is not far left enough. So you got you got a little bit of both sides coming down, but in the end, the the usage stats, the engagement levels, everything is just a tiny little fraction of what X is. So when people say that Blue Sky is the liberal X, no, it really isn't. Blue Sky is closer to what we had on the no agenda whatchamacallit server. The uh Mastodon. Mastodon server, yeah. More more like that.

SPEAKER_01: 27:24

Yeah. So President Trump, going back to this, announced today, and this just popped up that I saw it, but he's been talking about it, that they will be making cuts that will be permanent. They we are only going to cut democratic programs. I hate to tell you that's the way it works. They wanted this. Like, I don't know how what possessed Schumer to do this, it just doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_03: 27:51

Well, I think to some extent he's stuck between Iraq and the hard place because, on the one hand, you have the ideology that they want to stick to, on the other hand, they have the voters that you know that that really are not taxpayers. Let's face it. Most of the people voting for Democrats are leeches on society, not producers in society. So they're I I think that they would have to capitulate on their on the voting for things that they've been talking about supporting in order to keep the government running to keep their people happy. So I think this is all good because it's a lose-lose for them, regardless of which direction the Democrats go on this, and uh a win for Trump or for conservatives or whatever for the right. Because it's a in the end, like either way when the government gets started up again, which will be a sad day, I'll have a tear in my eye. But when that happens, Trump will get to get the credit for that, and they know it. Get the credit for the government restarting, restarting for putting everything back, you know, to normal. I think the Republicans for the really the first time that in my lifetime have actually done a good job of shifting the blame for shutdown on the Democrats. The last time this happened during Trump, they did not do nearly as good a job, and a lot of people blame the Republicans for the shutdown. Uh, all the previous times that I recall there being government shutdowns, the Republicans were squarely the ones that were pointed to as the reason we have a shutdown. This time around, I don't see that being the case. I mean, there might be an occasional news outlet here and there that does that, but it's not, you know, it's not a it's not the mainstream view. It's a minority view that it's the Republicans that shut things down.

SPEAKER_01: 30:10

Well, I don't know. This is one area where I wonder if we're not in an echo chamber where we're just seeing our side because the Democrats are definitely, you know, screaming at the Republicans that they're the ones at fault.

SPEAKER_03: 30:24

Yeah, but where are they screaming at?

SPEAKER_01: 30:26

I mean MSNBC.

SPEAKER_03: 30:29

Yeah, but nobody watches MSNBC. Literally, all the guys that you and I watch Rumble and on YouTube have audiences massively larger than MSNBC. And they they don't even have large audiences compared to like video game content guys. Guys who have way bigger audiences in the multiple millions of people. You know, the all these network news people are are they getting way under a million views, and a lot of them are getting under a hundred thousand views. Not all of them, but some of them do.

SPEAKER_01: 31:08

Over what period of time?

SPEAKER_03: 31:10

Over the period they're available, which is the same for anybody. You know, not network news puts up their shit online as well. You go on YouTube and see how many views shows on NBC or MSNBC or CBS or any of these get. They get hundreds of views often. There's nobody watching that shit. And you can make an argument and say, well, yeah, they don't they're not watched online because people watch them on their TV sets. Yeah, but from those, we have the Nielsen's. We know how many people watch that. And Nielsen today is not like Nielsen of 30 years ago. They they very accurately correctly track everything that you watch based on sound waves. You get a little device, it's basically listening anytime you've got the TV on for what's on, and it's using sound recognition to know what channels you're watching, what ads you're skipping, like it calculates all that stuff, so it's very precise. So those shows don't really affect much. They're they probably get mentioned more, or you may see more clips on X of a show from CNBC than anybody actually watched on CNBC. Potentially. I think more often than that. Because X videos can if they're good, I mean they can get millions of views. So anyway, I I just think that it's just such a non-thing. Like this I I told this to Adam many years ago. I said, we need to stop calling what people refer to as traditional media or mainstream media. We need to stop calling them that because they're neither. I'm okay with using the term old media to refer to them, but they're not mainstream media. Mainstream is watching clips on your phone about all kinds of political topics. I'll tell you a clip that's making the rounds that is not on mainstream television that is way, I mean, like hundreds of millions of views, not just a few million, hundreds of millions of views, is a clip of Hassan Piker. You know who he is. Yes, uh, who is a uh basically a pro-terrorist Twitch streamer who's never getting banned because Twitch is pro-terrorist, and and that's just objectively true if you look at their content. But he he was doing a stream where his dog, who's always in the background of his videos, got up from his doggy bed to stretch his paws and took one step to get off the doggy bed, and Hassan leaned over to the left, did something that made the dog go yelp in a high pitch and instantly get back in the doggy bed, as Hassan is saying, This dog is so spoiled, my mom spoils it. You know, she just needs to chill.

SPEAKER_01: 34:24

Did you uh did you see the meme of Hassan and it's Hitler with his dog petting it, loving it, and then Hassan, yeah, electroshocking his dog, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 34:36

So the the what actually happened, which I'm positive is the case, uh, you know, it was sort of a we think this is what happened for a while until Hassan actually showed what he has there, but he's got a shock collar. This isn't basically an indoor dog, right? The fuck has he got a shock collar on it for, first of all, he but he does have a shock collar on it, and the dog has basically been you know trained into submission of sitting on a what looks like about a two-foot by four foot little doggy bed for 12 hours a day while Hassan streams. Dog doesn't get to go for a scratch, doesn't get to go to the bathroom, doesn't get to play. The dog's job is to be an object in the background of Hassan's stream, and this is not because the dog loves sitting next to its owner, this is because the dog was tortured by electricity to sit in that spot and not move. That's pretty fucked up, right? Very fucked up. I'm not even the dog owner, and I think that's pretty fucked up. Now, I will say a couple of caveats. Number one, dog electric collars are not that painful.

SPEAKER_01: 35:51

No, it's a it's like a TENS unit, it's like a TENS unit.

SPEAKER_03: 35:54

It there you well, you clearly know plenty more on that topic as well.

SPEAKER_01: 35:58

But anyway, yeah, I I I actually so I will I will say that I will say this a shock collar used as a training implement is a wonderful thing. Yeah, because what you do is you set it to the lowest possible shock that the dog responds to. You get one with a vibrate and a beep. Yeah, and like I train it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 36:22

You train it to the beep is all it takes for the beep is the warning, the shock comes after.

SPEAKER_01: 36:27

Yeah, I would use the vibrate to get my dog Max's attention, like out at the park or something, letting him off leash, he's running around doing something. I can hit that vibrate and call him, and it breaks his attention long enough that he's coming back, yeah. And and you using it as a training aid is fine.

SPEAKER_03: 36:45

Yeah, but also just the fact that what your goal is is to have an animal like a dog. This is not a fucking snake that sleeps 18 hours a day, anyway. If I had a cam on my snake, I wouldn't need anything because it's sleeping all the time, anyway. This is a dogs are you know, they're active animals, they're not passive animals like some animals. And to basically shock the dog into submission of just sitting on a two-foot by three-foot bed is just fucked up, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01: 37:18

For how many hours a day?

SPEAKER_03: 37:20

Well, he streams about 12 hours a day, yeah, and the dog is almost always there, and it's not like he takes the dog for a leash for a walk or something during the stream, obviously not, and then and not like he's also a multimillionaire, so it's not like he has a dog walker that comes by in the middle of a stream, says, All right, you know, I'll be back in 20 minutes, you and then takes the dog away. No, the dog just sits there for 12 hours a day, does nothing, just lays there in its bed. This is not a good life for a dog, and there are people that are trying to call the whatever the version the equivalent of the ASPCA is to basically try and have somebody liberate that dog. I'm not a fan of people getting into other people's pets business either. Like, you know, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_01: 38:08

Ultimately, a dog is not a person. Do I think you ought to abuse an animal? No, is the dog your fucking property? You're goddamn right.

SPEAKER_03: 38:16

Yeah, so I posted a comment, uh kind of a snarky comment. It's amazing, right? On uh another streamer's Tectones post about Hassan's. So the guy's been spewing hate and been a pro-terrorist activist for a decade, and this is what people are upset about. It's not the kill all Jews, it's the fact that he zapped his dog. Now, I'm I'm doing that because I'm rattling the cage, right? This is not a I don't think the dog ought to be abused either, but it it seemed like the appropriate thing to say. And so, holy shit did that ignite a storm. There's over 250 replies to me on that topic. Most of them not so nice. And there was even a poll that was started who would you rather go without dogs or Jews? Okay, and this is not Hassan's people, right? This is a guy who's pointing out how bad Hassan is that is doing this, and incidentally, the poll results were about 62%, 63% of the people would prefer the Jews that the Jews stick around, while 30 obviously fake poll. 38% of the people prefer the dogs stick around and the Jews disappear. And a few people had commented after that man, I didn't read the poll correctly. I meant to get rid of the Jews.

SPEAKER_00: 39:54

Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03: 39:56

So that's that number is artificially high because the IQ level of the people answering that poll is not sufficiently high enough to allow them to process the entirety of the question all at once. If it should have just said Jews, dogs, then I think then people would have gotten it. But it was actually like a full sentence question. Yeah, so since we're on the topic of Jews, yeah, which by the way, Muslims hate both dogs and Jews.

SPEAKER_01: 40:21

Yeah, so do you want to do you want to talk Candace or do you want to talk Netanyahu? I don't care. Which one? Which one do you want to start with?

SPEAKER_03: 40:30

Candace is she's she's feeling like she's got the spotlight on her. Her best friend is Charlie. I've done a kill switch. I've done a kill switch. Her best friend Charlie apparently had been talking to her the entire week before his assassination, saying, I think the Jews are out to get me.

SPEAKER_01: 40:49

No, that's that's not quite the story. There's a text thread.

SPEAKER_03: 40:54

Yeah, exactly, that she was on. Where Charlie was saying that I don't know that she was on it.

SPEAKER_01: 40:59

I think it was leaked to her because it was leaked to her.

SPEAKER_03: 41:02

So somebody else that was on it leaked it to her? Maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 41:06

That is my understanding.

SPEAKER_03: 41:07

But she's portraying this as a legitimate real thing. And in that thread, we see a little bit of businessman Charlie rather than a let's have a conversation, Charlie. And the businessman Charlie is a$500 million millionaire. Okay, he knows what he's doing, he's good at it. What he's good at doing is getting donations. Yep. And nobody would argue, I think, that that really understands business with that aspect of it. And so apparently there was another, so this wasn't the first, so this has to have been a not the first Jewish donor that'd been happy with Charlie for a long time, and then to the tune of donating two million dollars per year to him. Now, I don't donate two million a year to anybody, I don't know about you, Ben, but this is a different lead.

SPEAKER_00: 42:00

I would have to have two million dollars before donate, right?

SPEAKER_03: 42:04

So this is a different level of donors. And Charlie, having been on the receiving end of not just one of these, but by his messages, several of these people who had been donating had decided to cancel donating. Then they're saying, look, we don't like the direction you're going. We don't want to have you have people like Candace or what's his face on there? Tucker being platformed because they at least as of right now, they're spewing anti-Jewish hatred. And you know, if you're donating money to somebody, you get to do that. That's just part of the deal. Your your money is not an obligation, your money is a donation, and donations only happen when the person donating them thinks that the person that's gonna get the money is doing something that they like, and platforming people that are anti-Jewish is not gonna be something that Jewish donors like generally.

SPEAKER_01: 43:12

Yeah, fair enough, but you know, there's there's a lot there. He also said supposedly in that text thread that we have not seen. Let me remind everybody. Well, I saw that that I thought she hadn't released it.

SPEAKER_03: 43:28

Well, she didn't release it, but uh it's making the rounds.

SPEAKER_01: 43:31

Okay, well, anyway, it but uh Charlie, one of Charlie's producers, confirmed that it was legit. So there's that. But regardless, that he feared for his life in this, right? So she got it, she and this is just two days before he was killed, by the way.

SPEAKER_03: 43:47

I saw him in a dream where he told Candace that he was afraid for his life. No, in the text thread, text thread does not mention him being afraid for his life, it does mention him saying the Jews are acting like Jews. Stereotypical, yes, very stereotypical, yeah, like stereotypical Jews. Yeah, and again, it's like okay, okay, let's say that Charlie had been donating to an organization that was seemingly you know, pro-Christian, pro-American values, and they uh they decided to invite a very anti-Christian speaker from Iran to speak there. I'm not sure that Charlie wouldn't have done the exact same thing. I think anybody would go look at like the places that they are donating money, what are they doing with that money? If the uh American Red Cross and you're making donations to them, all of a sudden it comes out they're spending your money on doing child transition surgeries. Would you keep doing donations? Probably not. Because the the beauty of donating is you get to decide whether you want to continue doing that or not. You you don't get to decide necessarily. Now, in some donations, they they will earmark things, but generally when you donate, you don't get to decide what they will spend your money on, but you absolutely get to decide whether you continue sending them money or not. And that was the the the contents of the text, which is Charlie saying, We lost another Jewish donor to the tune of two million dollars. Okay, so the only stuff that I can gather out of that is this is not the first Jewish donor that has decided to stop donating to him. I think that's totally legit.

SPEAKER_01: 45:52

Well, it it the the Asta.

SPEAKER_03: 45:57

I think a lot of people are surprised. Sorry to interrupt you, Ben, but I think a lot of people are even surprised that there are Jews donating money to Charlie. They thought he was Christian, not Jewish. Well, what are they doing?

SPEAKER_01: 46:09

That's irrelevant.

SPEAKER_03: 46:10

So was he was Charlie on on the pape from Israel? He's you know, I mean, this is this is the kind of stuff that reaffirms things that Candace is saying, which is that all Jews are receiving money from Assad to propagate a message, right?

SPEAKER_01: 46:25

And that's where I was going is the the implication here is just what you said is that you know, hey the Jews are in control here. Now, well, they're certainly in control of their money, absolutely. Sure, sure, sure. Now, going back to Netanyahu, did you see Netanyahu on Ben Shapiro's show?

SPEAKER_03: 46:50

I saw clips. I don't know which clip you're referring to.

SPEAKER_01: 46:53

So the clip I'm referring to that I think is interesting is the him saying we are the lesser partner. See that one? I did. So Netanyahu comes out and says, you know, just like in a marriage and da-da-da-da-da, and you know, we are the lesser partner, meaning Israel defers to the US, which I do believe to be largely true. Now, I would say that it's a lot of Zionists in the State Department that are using Israel from a tactic standpoint of being, you know, the unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East, right? You know, much like Taiwan was used during World War II.

SPEAKER_03: 47:36

Or even now, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 47:38

Yeah. So anyway, it will be very interesting to see who hears that. Now, I think it's stupid that he said it on Ben Shapiro's fucking show, but you know, it had he said it on I don't know, Joe Rogan, I think it would have come across very differently.

SPEAKER_03: 47:57

Well, uh yeah, but I mean, come on, Ben, you know that that he was only there in the US at all to just talk to his main agent Shapiro, the on the boots on the ground guy.

SPEAKER_01: 48:08

I thought that was Trump.

SPEAKER_03: 48:11

Oh no, no, no. Trump is not the main agent for Israel. Come on, that's Ben. Ben Ben is responsible for Israeli agenda, clearly.

SPEAKER_01: 48:19

Yeah, well, Trump's uh Trump's you know FBI just cut ties with the ADL.

SPEAKER_03: 48:26

Thank God should have done that years ago. The ADL is I think to normal Jews, kind of like the the the Negro Poverty Center, or whatever they're called, is to black people, southern Southern Poverty Law Center, or literally what I said.

SPEAKER_00: 48:43

Literally what I said Jesus Christ or the NAACP, same group, it's it's a group that is gene et surge.com.

SPEAKER_03: 48:56

They're literally a group that is using a ethnicity, religion, uh skin color, religion, whatever, of somebody else to be able to do lefty agendas, and that's all the ADL's ever been. Yeah, it that there's in in you know, like if I'm at a a party where a lot of like let's say somebody's bar mitzvah, right? Tons of Jews around. If you go through and you ask these Jews, what do you think of the ADL?

SPEAKER_01: 49:28

Really a bunch of Jews at a bat mitzvah.

SPEAKER_03: 49:31

Yeah, amazing, right? You'll get about 80% of the men saying, Oh my god, they fucking suck, they're only making things worse for the rest of us. You'll get about 40% of the women agreeing with the men. You know, most women tend to be they they want to save everybody, right? And they think the ADL is their saving people. So most women will think that's a good thing, most men know that the ADL is a horrible thing, but in the end, uh there's a very substantial majority of Jews that would distance themselves from the ADL and preferred the ADL just didn't exist and wasn't trying to make Jews look like Jewish cartoon characters, and or you know, or worse. So the fact that they managed to weasel their way into providing any kind of agenda to the US government is a a little surprising to me, but also horrible. So if they're now out, which it appears like they are, that's a good thing. Because they they not only do they not speak for Israel, which like they the ADL is way left of even Israeli politics, but they don't speak for Jews in general, they they just grab the name, you know. It's it it's like if you have some I don't know, some group that is based around I don't know, let's call it uh I'm trying to think of non like a totally fake, not real thing, and I keep thinking of actual real groups, but let's say you've got a group called the Firearm Safety Preservation Foundation, right? And then you listen to what they're actually putting out there, and what they're putting out is in order to have safe firearms, no one needs to have a magazine of more than 10 rounds, right? Like just because they have the name firearms in their and preservation in their name doesn't mean they're the good guys, they're actually the bad guys, and that's that's kind of the same situation with the ADL. I don't think the ADL honestly was ever needed. Like, this is a group that never should have been created. The premise for it is it it was created to publicly combat anti-Semitism, but I don't think it's ever actually done that. Agreed, and and and you don't combat anti-Semitism with a group, you combat it with better teachers. So, yeah, it's it's bad. What else you get?

SPEAKER_01: 52:08

Well, Israel and Hamas agrees to phase one of Trump's peace.

SPEAKER_03: 52:13

I don't I don't understand how that works.

SPEAKER_01: 52:14

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03: 52:15

I don't I don't see it working, I don't think it's gonna work. I don't know. I always just assumed that that whole agreeing to a peace was just an excuse to say, look, they didn't accept peace, so we have to keep going.

SPEAKER_01: 52:29

Yeah, well, I think Israel's rebels Gaza enough that it's not gonna be livable, and part two of the peace deal is people have got to get out.

SPEAKER_03: 52:38

Yeah, they definitely have to get out so they can finish rebalizing it.

SPEAKER_01: 52:41

And then rebuild, yes.

SPEAKER_03: 52:43

Or something. I mean, the I I remember making AI-generated Trump towers in Gaza. There's always fun to talk about like that. But honestly, I don't I don't know that it does need to be rebuilt. It's gonna be safer if it's not rebuilt.

SPEAKER_01: 53:04

I mean, it's kind of prime real estate there, bud.

SPEAKER_03: 53:08

Yeah, but if you compare prime real estate to risk of more violence, I'm not sure that you use that prime real estate. You just leave it as a buffer. Maybe I I would I would say this if Israel starts building there again, which they had previously, it'll be a huge PR disaster.

SPEAKER_01: 53:35

Well, I don't know that it'll be Israel that does it.

SPEAKER_03: 53:38

Still, but it'll be bad PR for any company that comes into that. You're gonna have Greta Thunberg in there talking about reclaimed land.

SPEAKER_01: 53:46

What what if it's the UAE?

SPEAKER_03: 53:50

They're still gonna look the white liberal women are still gonna protest. They don't give a shit. The the Arabs may be more inclined to that solution, but yeah, I don't know. I I think that there's a you know who could who would love to take the land that is supposed to be Palestinian land? Who's that?

SPEAKER_01: 54:17

The Kurds who were no shit completely ripped out of the actually that is a fucking great idea.

SPEAKER_00: 54:25

Is that a good idea? Yeah, that is actually a good idea because Kurds, the Kurds should have their own countries, absolutely, they totally should, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 54:36

And for people who go, Well, what about the Palestinians? The Palestinians are Arabs, but they have their own countries.

SPEAKER_03: 54:41

Palestinians are Arabs, and there are what 17 Arab countries around the world that have a population of two billion people now combined.

SPEAKER_01: 54:50

Jesus Christ. But hold on, the population is the there's not two billion Arabs, though.

SPEAKER_03: 54:59

There's two billion Muslims, yes, not two billion Arabs. I was exaggerating there, right?

SPEAKER_01: 55:04

So the yeah, because like in Dubai, yeah, you know, 98% of the population is not Arab.

SPEAKER_03: 55:14

Right, that's that's true, yeah. No, that's a very good point.

SPEAKER_01: 55:17

But I but I think there are actually 17 Arab countries, so and yeah, I'm not I'm not fact-checking you right now, but it sounds about right.

SPEAKER_03: 55:26

It it and some are much smaller than others, but it's basically all of North Africa, uh, and and these are conquered lands, like Egypt was not an Arab country for the majority of its history, but it has been an Arab country for the last 800 years or so.

SPEAKER_01: 55:43

It's been a Muslim country, not an Arab country, Arab-conquered country.

SPEAKER_03: 55:48

I said not it's it's not to say that genetically the population is Arab, but it is conquered by Arabs.

SPEAKER_01: 55:56

I I I know Egyptians and they would be very offended by that sentiment.

SPEAKER_03: 56:00

I think if they look at their history, they would have to agree because Egypt was conquered by Arabs. Like when you lose a war, you can't deny that you know.

SPEAKER_01: 56:11

So since everything apparently relates to the Jews, I I just want to point out Germany is now going super nationalistic, a la the UK with raising flags and talking about immigrants and everything else. Good, like like Europe is re-arming and becoming more nationalistic.

SPEAKER_03: 56:34

I think Europe's uh Europe is starting to realize they need to start fighting back. I don't know if they will, though. Britain is gone, Britain is not gonna come back from this. I don't know. Way too many Arabs live there. Sorry, very way not Arabs, way too many Muslims because most of them are Pakistani. Way too many Muslims live in Britain and have full citizenship to ever go back. If there are maps out there showing the areas that are under Muslim control, and so that only mat that only matters until people get so pissed off. Well, you you don't think the Arabs are capable of violence? Sorry, the I think they are. You don't think the Muslims are capable of violence?

SPEAKER_01: 57:16

Oh, I think they are, but I think that they are not yet a majority, and no again, this is why seconds is so wonderful.

SPEAKER_03: 57:27

Neither was any group that that revolted a majority. Revolutions are started by minorities in every country, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 57:35

Well, anyway, we'll we'll see, but uh yeah, yeah, Germany following suit.

SPEAKER_03: 57:41

I I I think there's more German nationalism potential than British nationalism potential.

SPEAKER_01: 57:47

Well, the Germans are far more militant, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_03: 57:50

The Germans have put up with an awful lot, and we know what happens to Germans when they put up with an awful lot for a while. What's that? They blame the Jews. Had to had to do it, sorry.

SPEAKER_01: 58:06

Yeah, it is ghost chambers incoming. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03: 58:09

Yeah, it's very efficient, it is super efficient, yeah. Yeah, there's a there's a Jewish guy, a rabbi actually, and a German guy who's a comedian, and the video is German guy asked rabbi hard questions. Because you know, they're not really allowed to talk freely in Germany about the Holocaust and Jews and no, they can't even stuff like that read books or anything. Like all their video games have to remove Nazi flags, which is ridiculous. Why can't you play a video game as a Nazi? What's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_01: 58:51

Well, and yeah, I mean, there's better guess there's so there's so many things there. I I I'm gonna bite my tongue. All all I know, all all I know about the Holocaust is you know, is I don't know the truth.

SPEAKER_03: 59:06

I know. All I know is both my grandfathers died in World War II pretty early on. So I always say, what do they die of? They died of Germans, German-led. So if you if you look at what's happening in Europe, I think it's a good beginning, but I think they have a damn long way to go. The first thing they need to do is get rid of their stupid laws that bring in all these Islamists into the countries.

SPEAKER_01: 59:34

They damn Islamists.

SPEAKER_03: 59:36

You'll you look at the and I say Islamists very specifically because it's not all Muslims, it is radical militant Muslims that have a particular interpretation of the Quran, a literal interpretation of the Quran. There are extremist groups everywhere. There are extremist Jewish groups that have a very different interpretation of the uh the Torah because they're fucked in the head. I'll be the first to say that as well. There are groups of people that take ideas over reality and then run with those ideas to the detriment of themselves and others. And that's what we need to watch out for. And unfortunately, if you look at the people that have come in as refugees into Europe over the last 20 years, most of them have not been of the mainstream moderate variety of Muslim. No these are these are people that are coming in and are shocked to discover that you can't rape 13 year old girls. Well why would

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:47

Or marry your cousin.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:48

Or yeah, I mean you you rape the neighbor and you marry your cousin. That's how it works.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:54

Yeah. I mean, we we're not joking here. I mean the highest how many shows ago was it that I said the highest levels of inbreeding, right? Yeah. Yeah. You know, it this is this is a common practice. No, but what what it comes down to is you it it literally is a almost a family bonding thing, right? It it's creating this we are we are tight, right? Because your your cousin is now your wife, right? It it does promote a blood is more important than anything sort of mentality, and you see that in a lot of this, and it's it's quite frankly, not just the the Muslims, the the Jews, the Talmud says it's fine to rape a goy as long as it's in an unnatural way.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:45

You know, well, I'm gonna put a stop to this right now. Saying the Talmud says is like saying that every book ever written about Christianity says Christianity does this. Yeah, you can't just make a blanket statement like that. That there are tons of things that were said a thousand, two thousand, three thousand years ago that should not and are not treated by modern people of that religion as being literal. That's just not the case, and uh there are a bunch of clips making their rounds.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:24

The point is you didn't let me finish.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:27

Yeah, I didn't because I stopped you at bullshit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:30

Hold on, hold on. The point is one group sticks with what their book says, the other largely doesn't, yeah, right? There is this growing up mentality. So here I am trying to defend you.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:46

Islam doesn't either for the most part. It's a it's Islamists, the minority of the people that take shit literally, but what you can't escape is that in Islam, in literally their holiest book, the Quran, we have the Prophet Muhammad taking as his wife a 10-year-old girl. She was actually six when she became his wife, she was 10 when they consummated the marriage. Like, that's not a notes written about the religion. That is literally the main prophet of the religion doing this. Same thing with dogs. You know, I went through and listened recently to a lecture on the Quran why Muslims hate dogs. You know why Muslims hate dogs? Why? Well, because the the prophet Muhammad did not like that his Aisha, his wife, was paying attention more to her pet dog than to him. And so he said, get these dirty animals out of the house. I don't want them anywhere near here. And uh, like again, this is recorded in one of the hadiths. This is not like some commentary about it later. This is actually in the Quran. So you can look at the rationale for most of these things, and and what's amazing to me is once you look at if you treat the Quran as a historical document, what's amazing to me is that people still would consider this guy to be a prophet, given how he acts so frequently counter to what the God that he claims to represent has stated in his previous prophets and previous books. Like if you're saying that you're the last and final prophet, and the prophets before you are guys like Moses and Jesus, you would think that would be a little consistency between there. You would hope if that's the same actual God that you're trying to represent. Now, if it's a whole different god, if it's some djinn and and uh you know, or Satan or something, that'd be different. You don't expect to have consistency, but you get very little consistency when you start reading the Quran.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:16

Yeah. So there's there was I I haven't finished it yet, but there's a great little podcast about uh that Allah is ball. Yeah. And you know, I again I I I I I put people won't like this, but I put Muslims, Talmudic Jews, and Mormons all in the same category. I think of it as a corruption, that's all. But anyway, regardless, yeah. So yeah, Germany going more nationalistic, lots of interesting stuff going on in the world, and you know, we haven't even touched some of the other domestic stuff going on.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:06

Yeah. Where did you want to go?

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:10

Uh we did the shutdown, but we haven't talked about Arizona. Arizona just lawsuit was just won in Arizona to force them to validate in all counties the uh citizenship of what I hadn't heard about this.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:27

I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:28

Yeah, lawsuit won in Arizona. Let me look it up because it just happened a while ago.

SPEAKER_02: 1:06:46

If I could type.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:57

So ongoing lawsuit that was just one to block anyway, to make sure that they have to remove non-citizens from the voter rolls and they have to validate the they have to validate citizenship.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:13

Yeah.

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Before putting someone on there.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:17

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:18

Yeah. So but I don't think Arizona will be a swing state anymore.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:24

Yeah. I don't know, dude. There's an awful lot of Californians in Arizona. A lot. Yeah. So New Mexico just has a lot of drug users. That's the issue there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:41

At least Albuquerque does.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:43

Yeah. Well, yeah, but not just though. I mean, I I there there are areas of New Mexico you drive through and you're like, I'm not stopping here.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:52

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:53

It's it there's a reason that the setting for breaking bad was in New Mexico.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:59

Was in New Mexico, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:00

And it's not just one city.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:03

Yeah. The other thing I wanted to bring up is the Antifa stuff. Have you been tracking that? Yeah. So not only has Antifa been called a domestic terrorist organization, but obviously Trump has leaked to people like Glenn Beck and a few others some information on the funding because I don't know if you watched Glenn Beck's program last night.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:25

I did not, no.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:27

So he did a whole thing on the foreign funding of Antifa. They are about to declare Antifa a foreign terrorist organization, which actually does legally matter.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:37

Yes. Yeah, and that's there's been a few guys that have been petitioning for that for a while. Look, it look, it's gotten to the point where literally these YouTubers that I watch are getting contacted by the FBI to provide information on what they know about Antifa and other things. Because you know, I watch a lot of these guys that like like to go out and film protests and stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:00

And he knows that he's been.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:02

Yeah. And and FBI is well, he's an OG man. Yeah. Uh original gangster. He he is he was doing that shit and getting beat up for it, getting his jaw broken back when concrete milkshake. Yeah, when the government was very different than it is today. So, yeah, I think that's a good thing. I would love to see federal. Well, I would love to see a federalization of a few places, frankly. I don't think I'm gonna get my wish, but I'd love to see Seattle federalized, I'd love to see Portland federalized, love to see Chicago federalized. Because if we did that and cleared out all the corruption that's currently running these places, what we would find is that the citizens themselves have not wanted these things ever. But the minority of people that got in power that have set up organizations that feed an illegal army called Antifa in this matter, that is effectively driving what they want done that but can't do legally, they just have Antifa do illegally. I mean, there ought to be rec Rico charges filed, there ought to be a lot of people getting federal prison time out of this deal, if it was up to me. But you know, things move slowly in the real world.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:24

I I will say one thing Trump is sending troops, yeah. So, you know, we yeah, Texas troops in Chicago. That's that's absolutely correct.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:33

I'm my my heart just is it's so happy to see good Southern boys going and kicking some ass up north.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:43

Well, and uh I don't know, did you see the video of the one Antifa protester yelling at the National Guard officer who is standing or not officer, but anyway, National Guard standing outside, I think this was in Portland, I forget what federal building, and he goes, What's your name, soldier? What's your name? Spitting on him and all this. And he just comes up with a can of mace, sprays it straight into his face.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:11

Sergeant Pepper. Yeah. Sergeant Pepper, that's great.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:18

Like the wittiness of that soldier.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:23

Oh man, that is that, yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:26

Like, it was just so hilarious because this guy's in his face thinking he's not gonna do anything. I'm not gonna touch him, he's not gonna do anything.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:34

I think I would love to have an un-Americanism commission set up and start looking at all these black-faced, not face, but you know what I mean, black faced covered Antifa dudes wearing black clothes, black coverings on their face, all that shit. Because they think they're anonymous, they're not anonymous. Well, everybody will be ready to turn them in if there's a price to be had.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:00

Here's the thing. So, right now, that anonymity has, you know, uh Tim's talked about it a lot, you know. Oh, he's the one who hit me. Well, they're all wearing the same clothes. How can you know? Yeah, yeah. But here's the thing: as soon as they're actually declared a terrorist organization and they're wearing the uniform of the terrorist organization, they can be hunted. This becomes a very different thing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:23

Oh, yeah, it's not about taking you to prison, buddy. You're you're a foreign uh terrorist, you know, you're you're gonna get if you're lucky, you'll get captured. If you're lucky. Yeah, and you know, what if we capture somebody who's a spy, somebody who's acting in another nation's interest, we hold on to them for life. I mean, we used to put them to death, but uh, these days we hold on to them for life. And you know what we need? We need some public works projects in Alaska to start building some facilities.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:03

You keep saying this.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:05

Well, I'm you know, keep my fingers crossed, it happens. Because we need it, we need it to happen.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:12

So prediction time Chucky Schumer's term is up next presidential run in 28. Do you think he's gonna retire? Or do you think he's gonna lose the primary to AOC?

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:33

I think both at the same time. I think he will retire when he loses the primary to AFC. I think he's going to either have a little, you know, a preemptive deal where he gets something out of it and retires, or he'll end up losing to AFC because AOC will definitely is way more popular than he is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:54

Yeah, well, have you looked at the stats? AFC is the most popular Democrat.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:00

Nah, not really. I mean, for that area, yes, but not nationwide. Did you see the stats from Polymarkets? No, so polymarkets has who's going to win the the next election, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:14

XYZ race, yep.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:15

And it's open to you know everybody, right? So the number one spot is Vance. Most people think Vance is gonna win the next election. The number two spot is Gavin Newsom, and it's a very close second spot, it's like three percent behind Vance. The next spot is AOC, and I can't remember who's in the third spot or the fourth spot. But AOC is like 10 or 12 points behind what's his face, giving some. Yeah, but she's in there, she's in there. Oh, and I I remember now. The fourth spot is the rock. Yeah, because I guess he's expressed some democratic leanings and has thought about running. Dwayne the Rock Johnson. And of course, all the comments are like, well, as long as Mr. Paper doesn't run, people are just can't help themselves. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. I definitely think it's realistic to see a Vance versus a Newsom challenge. I think so too. You know, he's fucked up California enough, he needs to move on. Yeah. So even more territory.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:36

Yeah, so Letitia James is facing charges.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:40

I saw that, yes. Mm-hmm. Bank something embezzling or something with banks.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:48

No, mortgage fraud.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:49

Mortgage there you go. Yeah, mortgage fraud. So yeah, the you know, fuck around find out thing is coming true, which is great. Love to see that little Schreidenfreuder in there as well. Stir that in. Yeah, that's it's good stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:12

So what video games have you been playing?

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:14

You know, mostly the same ones. So Gray Move. No, no, no. I I would only play a little bit.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:24

Sweated it out, huh?

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:25

Only a little bit of so the thing is Grey Zone, that video game is as I mentioned before, it's the most realistic first-person shooter game. It's a very good modern warfare squad-based gun simulation, first-person shooter thing. It takes place in Laos. So, if anything, the heat added some realism to the game. Sweating my balls while my character is sweating his balls, lay ocean, and I I kind of referred to you as firearms, whatchamacallit, simulator, firearms, uh, like gunsmithing simulator. Yeah, because the weapons in that game can all be taken taken apart into their constituent parts, like in real life, and you have different brands of parts. You know, there's like four or five different manufacturers of suppressors, there are multiple manufacturers of the uh AR platform or the M4 platform, and so you can build your own custom gun essentially in the game, which is what I've been doing quite a bit, both on the AK and the AR lines. And it like that part of it to me is almost as much fun as the shooting part of the game. But yeah, it's been fun. I've had a couple of new guys come in that like I know from games playing with them other games that have started, so I've been helping them as well, which has been good. And then, of course, Elite Dangerous, still doing that, because that's the space game with all tons of different activities, and then World of War ships, because occasionally I still have a hankering to go sail a ship and shoot some other ships.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:15

I wish I had your time, Gene.

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:17

No, you don't. No, believe me. Uh it's yeah, nothing new, nothing new on the horizon. Although I think this coming weekend, in fact, maybe even tomorrow is the launch day of Battlefield 6. So probably for the week after the one you were doing. Yeah, I was doing the beta of, yeah, yeah. So when that actually launches, launches, I'm gonna guess the next week or two is gonna be spent primarily on that game instead of the others because it's new. But you know, Battlefield 6, as good as it is, as much as I liked it during the play, is I would never call it a simulation. It is very much a video game based around first-person modern warfare, whereas the Grey Zone is a lot closer to a simulation, and it's a game that will punish you for doing dumb things strongly, and it'll punish you for trying to you know be a Leroy Jones very strongly. It's it's pretty easy to lose your body and all your stuff with it in that game. Where in Battlefield, you know, death is just a resurrection instantly.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:40

Yeah. Well, there's different purposes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:45

They do different audience, different purposes. One has a probably about a 40-year-old average player age, and the other one has like a 20-year-old average player age.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:56

Or 12.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they're there's yeah, they're probably more on the teenage side than 12, but yeah. A lot of people will be playing Battlefield across age groups, but certainly a lot more younger people will than playing. I I don't think I've talked to anyone in gray zone that wasn't employed. I think everybody is in at least in their 20s, but plenty of guys in their 40s, 50s, and 60s. Has a very large military contingent of people. You have way too many guys that are named Sarge. In fact, one of my friends is a lieutenant colonel in active military that I just pulled into that game. So there's a there's a lot of people that are enjoying it. So if you want to check it out, check it out. It's never on sale, so there's not even a need to wait for anything. Either you're gonna like a game like that or you're not, but it's still pre-release, it probably won't be released until two years from now. Yeah. You got any interest in trying uh Battlefield? Uh any nostalgia?

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:11

Yeah, some, but I just I'm not gonna spend the money on it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:21:14

The beauty of the game like that of Battlefield is there's very little commitment. It's not like you have to dedicate, you know, right 20 hours to play it. It's you can literally jump in within 10 minutes, have your gear and be especially on multiplayer.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:31

Yeah, no. Are you are you but are you gonna do the campaign or not?

SPEAKER_03: 1:21:35

Well, I don't know if it even has one, honestly, because we didn't get a campaign in the beta, we only got multiplayer, so I don't even know if it has a campaign. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. The old ones did for sure. I'm sure it has a campaign, but there's like it may have a campaign whose only purpose is to teach you how to use the guns and the weapons and all the gear, yeah, or it may have a full-length campaign like some of the older ones did, where you know it's like a 25 hours of playthrough. So I I I can let you know the next podcast which one that is, but certainly the big fun aspect of that game is the multiplayer, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:18

The well, any of them, like Call of Duty and all that. Call of Duty also had the zombie mode, which was awesome.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22:25

Yeah, I was never a fan of Call of Duty. Uh I've played a few of them early in, but as did you ever play zombies? No, I stopped before that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:34

Oh, okay. Do yourself a favor and just go play some of the levels of the zombies.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22:40

I got so many games that I've already bought that they haven't even tried yet. Right, but pick that up.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:45

Just do the zombies because it's it's infinite enemies coming at you in waves, and you have to like it's it's it's non-stop shooter action.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22:57

I get it, but you get basically non-stop action with playing against humans.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:03

Not the same. Not the same. I'm telling you, I I absolutely like I remember in college when the first zombie stuff came out, me and my friends just sitting around playing for hours trying to see how high of a level we could reach before dying.

SPEAKER_03: 1:23:20

Before you get killed, yeah. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get it. Was there anything else? Let me check our oh my god.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:32

What they've got the one of those Olympic videos just came up.

SPEAKER_03: 1:23:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:36

And it's the uh the silent challenge just went global.

SPEAKER_03: 1:23:42

Okay, you gotta send that to me, so I'm gonna have to look for it. That is great. Put it into no reporters, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:57

This is the level oh, this this is the infile infantile sense of humor I have for sure, but this just makes me laugh. So it's literally women with their mouths taped shut. Oh my god. Oh my god. All right, there you go. You got it. Oh, that's the best one. Yeah, that is the best one.

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:19

They're seeing how long they can they can get talk talking. Oh my god, that's a tough one.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24:25

So France stayed calm.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:29

Italy stayed focused, but America just couldn't take it anymore.

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:36

I believe that, man. That's a uh not a hard one. Let's see, they're mostly sending me juvenile stuff that would not really for the podcast.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:46

How dare you?

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:48

Well, how dare I? Okay. Six girls, but you can only have one. Yeah, that's the kind of stuff Ben sends me.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:55

That was in the group.

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:57

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:59

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25:00

Let's see. What else did I have in there? Okay, well, I mean, honestly, some of mine are pretty juvenile too, but uh yeah, no kidding. Anything else that comes up politically that we talked about. Oh, did you like that hand-drawn one? I thought that was pretty hilarious. That starts off basically doing line drawings of like nudes, but that keeps drawing and looks like they're actually just parts of other drawings that have nothing to do with nudes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:30

I don't know that I saw that one.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25:31

Oh, just scroll up like four screens and you'll see that one.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:34

You're talking about on No Reporters.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25:36

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean most stuff I put in there these days, because there's more than just you that's gonna think it's funny.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:48

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there is a lot the cop one that was funny. Why is that cop standing so far away? He's wearing his buddy cam and try to get you in frame.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25:57

That that is horrible. I mean, it's brilliant, but it's emotional damage. Yeah, exactly. Emotional damage. That's exactly right. Uh, so I don't know, Ben. I mean, the the the I think with the shit that's happening right now, there's so many moving balls in the air. There's not a morning that I wake up that I don't read the headlines on X, and it's never what I expected. It's always something new and something different, and and yet equally as amazing and interesting. Oh, looks like right now Russia is starting to finally target Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:47

Well, I mean, after Ukraine targeted the refinery, yeah, yeah, and continuing to do so.

SPEAKER_03: 1:26:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:55

You know, I I I agree with you that the headlines aren't ever what I necessarily expected. But one of the things I'll say is I'm really kind of how do I put this? I'm very cognizant and aware of where we're at politically here domestically. When you saw you saw the guy who was gonna try and bomb the church that the Supreme Court justices were in, right? Yep, you know it's been said for a long time, where's the off-ramp? We could easily devolve into civil war. And I'm to be honest, a little shocked that we haven't.

SPEAKER_03: 1:27:46

Well, how would we know?

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:50

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03: 1:27:53

I mean, I'm I'm sorry, I'm reading my ex-comments comments. Like, well, dogs actually bring value to this world, unlike the Jews. So the I think it's like boiling a frog in water to overuse the overused analogy. I don't I'm I'm kind of with Tim Pool on this, in that we're already in the civil war, we just haven't agreed as to where the start was.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:21

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_03: 1:28:22

People are getting killed, people are going to prison, we're picking sides, there's you know, what we don't have yet, because we're gonna find it in our rear view mirror, is where's the Fort Sumter? Like, what event was that? And I suspect, I could be totally wrong on this, but I suspect it may end up being Charlie's murder.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:28:56

Like, up until that point, we just agreed to disagree. After that point, no. No, we're gonna stick to our guns, we're not gonna agree to disagree. And I I'm loving what I'm seeing from part of the Republican Party, but not the other part. Like part of the Republican Party is look, we have to press hard while we're in power to keep them from ever getting power. That's the attitude they ought to have.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29:32

And then then there's the other thing. Yeah, I watch all of Nick's stuff. I get sent a lot of Nick's stuff, even though I watched it by other people. Nick is the kind of politician I wish we had here. You know, not just a patriot, but somebody with such a great sense of humor. Did you see the photo of Nick and his wife on his first like his his last day before his first tour?

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:04

No.

SPEAKER_03: 1:30:05

Okay. It's hilarious. Let's see if you can find it. So it's imagine Nick a hundred pounds later. Maybe a hundred, maybe even more than a hundred pounds later.

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:18

I mean, he's he's a fit guy, he's not fat.

SPEAKER_03: 1:30:21

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not fat, but he's he's like a fit 200 pounder, right? Yeah, and I think he's like six foot three or something, you know, he's not a short guy. So imagine him at about 110, 115 pounds. There's no way super skinny, tall guy whose uniform doesn't really fit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:42

Huh? Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 1:30:44

And his wife looks hot. you know that i can't imagine she's in the she's in their early 20s very very female feminine looking nick nick's wife is not she's not how no if you look at her right now it's like you you would not think that's a MILF but in her early 20s when they got married when and like he looked like a skinny dork wearing clothes that are not good fitting for him and that's his uniform he's just leaving for the military and she looked like the chick that's clearly gonna cheat on him while he's gone so I don't think she did obviously they still together but I I would definitely say that at least physically the military made Nick that's kind of what happens in the military yeah but I guess my impression is the guys that are gonna you know enlist are are already kind of the jocks Nick was not a jock he did not let all look like a jock when he when he was in that photo he just looked like a tall dorky dude haven't seen it I'll look uh I think he posted about a week ago I think it was like their 25th anniversary or something or 20th I don't know whatever it is somewhere around there but it was it was in because they took a second photo in the exact same spot except now and like you know Nick is a fit 200 pounder now he he his frame is is right for that weight in that first photo he looks like he's about a buck 25 I mean great guy I I I I know I'm 5'10 and I know what I looked like at 125 pounds yeah yeah uh yeah he it just you look at him it's like holy shit did he come back different so but yeah he I love his videos I like his little short quips that he does I like his long form podcast that he does I like the guy his uh partner in that podcast uh brings up some great points that he does I can't remember the guy's name but he's good as well yeah the wife is the most annoying generally part on there yeah I mean it wouldn't although she she's like Ian right occasionally she rolls a 20. Yeah right but yeah dude and I've met Ian and I just I don't know how he spent as much time on Timcass as he has because like obviously they're friends obviously they're friends but 90% of the time plus you gotta look at the guy and go Ian what the fuck are you talking about? He's one of those friends we've all had these friends yes where you're like ah yeah yeah he's not that bad like he's the friend that you're telling everybody else he's not that bad he's one of those friends but the stuff he just comes out with is usually not just contrarian but it's almost like have you not been listening to the conversation at all how the hell do you come up with this it's like well but you know I mean we generally we want to have everybody like live and be happy and like Ian that's not the point not the fucking point no so and uh I guess the the other thing is you know he's he knows where all the bodies are buried oh for Tim Cast yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's been hanging around Tim for 20 years so he knows there's a lot of people that that have got come and gone out of Tim's wake and Ian was around for all of them yeah so and because Luca's definitely out of Tim's wake at this point why oh you seen him on anytime recently yeah this week he was on Timcast yeah I didn't see him on Timcast really yeah while Tim was down in Florida okay or not wherever he was yeah well Luke lives in Florida right but I think they were at some TP I don't remember oh okay but yeah Tim has started traveling more that is true he always used to complain that he can't travel well he's having people guest host so he can travel and go do stuff yeah but he could have always done that but the in the past he's never wanted to relinquish right what I think happened was when his voice gave out and he had to have people guest host yeah he realized oh they can kind of do it without me like like bringing in an audience but yeah yeah yeah that's true I I I would I think that and getting married has had a positive effect on him because he's been with that chick forever but they weren't married yeah I have you ever seen a picture of her no nor have I he's he's done good on keeping that under wraps yeah he has I've seen like pictures of chicks he's fucked but I've never seen a picture of his current wife so yeah good for him I think he's he has managed to do what a lot of people haven't which is to maintain a level of like the show is him while at the same time growing a staff to a a much better size and doing a lot more stuff away from the show itself I I think this is something that like Linus Tech Tips did as well is he managed to take something that was like a five man operation with him in front of the camera for everything and grow it into a 150 person company where he's only in part of the videos and he most of the time isn't the one leading the video anyway.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:18

I I don't even know what he does for money like it it doesn't seem impossible on hardware huh?

SPEAKER_03: 1:37:26

Oh you mean Latinus? Yeah they publish their financials they're one of the few shows that publishes them yeah but I haven't looked at that I so I just don't understand how he makes it's about 20% YouTube revenue about 45% revenue of their own products like screwdrivers. Yeah and then the remainder are sponsored things and they're they're doing what were they doing i i think they were doing like five million that's pretty damn good yeah but I mean it's a it's a 150 person company where most people are making you know 30 bucks an hour you think they're making that much or less I don't know it's canadian money who knows well that's not real money that's why I said who knows 30 dollars canadian okay I can buy that you can buy that okay dude I watched a video of a chick complaining about how infosec doesn't pay shit today because she graduated college and her first job only paid$52,000 and then she asked for a raise three months later and they didn't give it to her said we'll talk about this later so then she applied somewhere else and there was a$7500 job mind you this is like while she's four months out of college and then she went to her boss and said well they're gonna pay me$75 and and the company she was at just gave her 25k bump and pay and uh you know like not that's not still not going to make her happy obviously but somebody with less than one year of experience in infosec and she's complaining about making more than the average american wage yep the fact people are out of their people are out of their minds.

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:23

Yeah they think if I'm not making six figures I'm not making anything well and I will say that is a true statement but not like both things can be true.

SPEAKER_03: 1:39:35

It could be true that you really do need six figures to survive in America but also you can't expect six figures your first year out of college unless you're an AI developer in which case you're gonna get 38000 your starting salary UT grads in the AI are getting over 300 grand right now. That's insane yep maybe I need to go back to school I know it's made me go like goddamn dude I was a developer when I left college I maybe need to like learn up some AI shit. My dad's doing AI programming right now. Yeah you mentioned that yeah he's building a text of speech model for Russian okay I mean which you know those generally exist his complaint with all the AI models currently out there is that unlike English and Russian the way you pronounce a word differentiates its meaning a lot more than English. In English you can just have regional accents that pronounce the same word different ways in Russian if you pronounce this the a word two or three different ways it's actually two or three different words. An example would be helpful an example like I gotta okay so I gotta think in Russian and I can't think he do it what fail I can't yeah it's a fail. I can't think of an exact word but I'll give you a fake example it'd be something like saying if you say like like I am working and that sounds or could it's pronounced differently but could be spelled exactly the same way as I had been working. And the differentiation between the had been and am isn't a separate word like it is in English.

SPEAKER_01: 1:41:40

It's just the slight difference in pronunciation of the word it's certainly a different conjugation right same spelling no change in conjugation.

SPEAKER_03: 1:41:52

No change in spelling you're supposed to infer by context okay it's I mean it's like it's and it's in English right spelled the same way but it's actually pronounced the same way but you're supposed to understand which meaning of which it's it is based on the words that precede it. Right? Okay. Something like that. So his whole thing is getting AI provided with a plethora of content for its learning to the point where it's because theoretically at least the AI is supposed to use context. It's not just supposed to pronounce individual words it's supposed to pronounce based on the context of the sentence right and so that's what he's doing and he said it took him about a month to figure out how they're doing text of speech with AI in in uh what the hell's the thing everybody's using right now chat GPT no no no no no python so yeah he's not like using a tool he's actually writing it right and it's I I've never understood why python caught on personally oh it's because it's retardedly easy okay well maybe that maybe that's all it is then because I like it's not it was never designed to be a real language designed to do manipulation scripting.

SPEAKER_01: 1:43:29

Yeah yeah but yeah now half the apps I get for video games are written in Python it's nutty don't understand it's it's just a pet peeve I mean there's it's a relatively straightforward language that can be you know used for a variety of things and there's a billion libraries for it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:44:00

Exactly so I I don't know why this surprises you it doesn't surprise me it disappoints me why I don't it just I don't like it I I I don't like bloatware I've grew up in the age of elegance of code I don't like things that just like no app should be more than a megabyte if you ask me okay Steve Gibson if you can't write an assembly you shouldn't be a software developer. Okay Steve Gibson all right fair enough fair enough I'm not as bad as on that note yeah yeah we could wrap it up yeah I um but seriously I'm not as bad as Steve Gibson but there is a a certain part of me that's like you know I wrote a C compiler in C in college not because that was an assignment but because I was too lazy to do it on the school's mainframe like I'd rather do it on my Mac using C. Mm-hmm that's the school that I come from not the fucking oh there's a billion libraries out there and just use Python well whatever I don't code anymore.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:20

So yeah I don't well the last language I really used like extensively I think I've talked about this in the past but it was Ruby on Rails. And the reason why is because Metasploit modules were written in Ruby on Rails. That makes sense I I gotta give you some work updates but we can wait till tomorrow on that one.

SPEAKER_03: 1:45:49

Okay. All right sounds good we'll see you guys next week