SPEAKER_00: 0:24

Howdy Ben. How are you today? I'm doing alright, Gene. Yourself? Pretty good. Pretty good. What's shaking? Well, a lot in the world. Where do you want to start? Do you want to do a tech update first?

SPEAKER_02: 0:40

Sure. We can talk about the if people notice a little bit of a different sound.

SPEAKER_00: 0:45

Yeah, so we are in the process of testing different recording solutions for the podcast. So we've been using Zoom with musician audio for a long time. And then the last episode that we did, we tried switching to Clean Feed. And I understand a lot of people may not care what we use, but for those that do, letting you know. And I kind of thought that the recording that we did on CleanFeed actually sounded a little bit better. So now I'm kind of thinking, well, we should probably get off Zoom and go to Clean Feed. Incidentally, you know, I gotta give him props. Adam Curry literally told me this a week ago. He's like, dude, if if you go to CleanFeed, you'll see the difference. And sure enough, I see the difference or I hear the difference. And today we're actually using a different one. We're using Zencaster, so we'll see how this compares to the last two recordings. They all should be perfectly adequate, but there are slight differences.

SPEAKER_02: 1:43

We started out using Zencaster. Way back when. Then they then they went to a pay-only model and exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 1:50

Nope. And then you know, it's been two years since we used Zencaster. I I looked. And the the current model is back once again to a free model. The only thing that you pay for is if you want to do video. Which I'm perfectly happy with because we never do video. So so it's it's it's back to being free.

SPEAKER_02: 2:10

No one needs to see me in front of the mic with the headphones on.

SPEAKER_00: 2:14

No, no. And I at some point I I do want to do one of those 3D avatar things. I just haven't taken the time to do it. So something that if if we have to be somewhere where we have to have our heads out there, I I'm perfectly happy it being uh a computer-controlled cartoon head. I'm fine with that too. Yeah, like a Santa Claus. As long as it doesn't look too much like me. Mine just looks like Santa Claus. That's totally looks just.

SPEAKER_02: 2:41

So since we're talking about tech updates, holy steam!

SPEAKER_00: 2:45

Yeah, right? That was what I actually meant when I said tech updates is the Steam news. Out of nowhere. Like no rumors about this even yesterday.

SPEAKER_02: 2:55

No, and then they're draw, but the the they're gonna miss Christmas, which I think is kind of odd.

SPEAKER_00: 3:00

Yes. Yes. That I'm sure there'll be pre-sales before Christmas. Right, but you're not gonna do that. But they're gonna miss Christmas delivery, unfortunately. Um, so what do they got? What do you want to talk about first?

SPEAKER_02: 3:13

Well, I was just I mean, it was big enough on Twitter that it came across my feed, and I'm not exactly a gamer. Right.

SPEAKER_00: 3:19

So there you go. Well, they've got products basically that are coming out.

SPEAKER_02: 3:23

Yeah, the the more the one the only one that's really interesting to me is the is the uh well, I'll just call it the black box, the game cube a black box, right? Because that's gonna probably be the most thing you buy. It's it's a console, it's a console console. Yeah, it's kind of like a yeah, but it's also a PC running SteamOS, so it's kind of interesting. And it's interesting that they're using customized hardware.

SPEAKER_00: 3:51

Oh god, it's very customized and very compact and very quiet, apparently. Like the fan is a huge fan, it's the size of the entire box. And even at maximum power, when you're doing high-end gaming, it you barely hear a sound. So, but yet something you're gonna buy? I'm probably not because it's it's not gonna be high-end, it's gonna be middle range gaming.

SPEAKER_02: 4:18

I bet you it's higher end than your current gaming PC.

SPEAKER_00: 4:21

I doubt it. I don't think so. I mean, yeah, my video card is still over a thousand bucks today. Okay. But what's cool about it is even though it's proprietary hardware and it's really a cube, and it just made me remember the old what the hell were they called?

SPEAKER_02: 4:37

The Nintendo Cube.

SPEAKER_00: 4:39

No, no, no, no. Well, that's for you, that's what you would remember. I'm remembering the next cube.

SPEAKER_02: 4:45

Oh, yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, back from my high school days when Steve Jobs got kicked out of this.

SPEAKER_00: 5:00

This looks like it's about maybe nine by nine by nine, somewhere around there. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02: 5:07

That there wasn't a lot shown dimensionality.

SPEAKER_00: 5:11

Uh if you watch what's his face, is the Canadian guy's video, he's got it ripped apart.

SPEAKER_02: 5:17

Oh, Linus has already torn it apart.

SPEAKER_00: 5:19

Linus got it torn apart already, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 5:21

So he he got an advanced copy. Of course he did.

unknown: 5:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 5:25

Okay, I I just yeah. Everybody's I didn't go that deep into it, dude.

SPEAKER_00: 5:30

But yeah, Linus had it taken apart.

SPEAKER_02: 5:32

But that's the only thing I'm interested in out of all the announcements, by the way.

SPEAKER_00: 5:36

Yeah, yeah. I I I get it. But it's got they've already said it will have standard M2 drives. You can replace it, put your own upgrade in, and it'll have standard memory DIMS. Which means, again, both of those components you'll be able to replace. So they're not going the way of Apple, where everything's soldered onto the motherboard, and then you've got planned up solescence because of that. They're going the open route. They've also committed to providing CADCAM drawings of these things or of the case, so people can print their own parts and then snap it on, you know, to customize their cases.

SPEAKER_02: 6:24

And you know, it's it's it's the what's interesting to me is part of the reason why Apple goes soldered on unified memory from a technical standpoint is anytime you put in a socket that introduces latency, right? So you're you're removing a minor amount of latency. How big of a performance boost that is, I would argue is de minimis because you're gonna you're gonna have another bottleneck that's bigger, but that's sort of apple.

SPEAKER_00: 6:56

Like you want the memory on the video card to be soldered on there. But I think Apple's, you know, there may be multiple reasons, but I think one of their big motivations is just oh, did you want more memory? Well, we have that available as a complete system for you. Yes. It's like you know, Darren buying his 96 gigabyte Mac Mini. Oh my god. So there are people willing to do that. He bought he bought the expensive one. Why? Yo, the podcasting pay as well, that's all I got to say. I guess. That's that he paid it all through podcasting donations. But anyway, this is a huge thing. Even if I don't buy one of these, this is great for the gaming community. And I hate the word community, but you know what I mean. It's it's something that should make Microsoft scared to shit with both their Xbox sales that are gonna be pulled away and their Windows 11 sales.

SPEAKER_02: 8:06

Well, I actually think the next Xbox is going the way of Windows PC. I think that Steam just beat Microsoft to the punch that they were going to.

SPEAKER_00: 8:18

Yeah, that could be, but if it's running Windows 11, it's a non-starter.

SPEAKER_02: 8:22

No, it's going to be running Windows 12. Like Windows 12 is the is going to be the Xbox OS. They've already set that.

SPEAKER_00: 8:28

Yeah, trust Microsoft at this point.

SPEAKER_02: 8:32

I think they've learned a lot of lessons, and if they're going to put it on a gaming console, then they're going to have a mode for gamers that is very lined out.

SPEAKER_00: 8:43

I think it's going to be more dumbed down than even Windows 11. You think you're missing bits and pieces in Windows 11? You're going to be missing even more bits and pieces in Windows 12.

SPEAKER_02: 8:52

Dude, I am I am so pissed off that the that the backup utility from like Windows XP is gone. Like I have two choices. Sync with OneDrive or backup to local storage. I can't do both. Why the fuck can't I do both? I've got to download a third-party software to do both.

SPEAKER_00: 9:11

You do, but that's always been a better solution anyway, because the third party software has generally been faster and better in every regard.

SPEAKER_02: 9:18

Yeah, but when it's built in, it's easy. Anyway, so yeah. Anyway, do we want to finish talking about the Steam announcement? There's more pieces.

SPEAKER_00: 9:25

So the one you're tech techs. The one you're excited about is the Xbox competitor. And I I think that's cool, but I'm not as excited about that because I'm still going to be using a PC most likely.

SPEAKER_02: 9:39

But for someone like me who I've never really liked console gaming, I've always preferred PC gaming, but I'm not going to spend the money on a high-end gaming PC anymore or build my own anymore. Like I can see potentially buying this.

SPEAKER_00: 9:55

It bridges that and it lets you play PC games. I mean, these are not console games you'd be playing. You'd be playing PC games, and PC versions of games that for console are usually kind of nerfed. You know, they're they're dumbed down. The you can't see as far, the resolution's not as high, all these limitations on console don't exist on PC. And this is going to let you play the PC. And people are saying the just from looking at the chips and everything, this thing should run somewhere between two and four times faster than the Steam Deck portable.

SPEAKER_02: 10:33

And the Steam Deck. Did you watch Steam's video? I didn't watch Steams. I I watched reviews of it. Okay, so Steam actually said it's four to five times more powerful than the Steam Deck? The Steam Deck.

SPEAKER_00: 10:48

Yeah, well, I think the reviewers are a little more conservative in their estimates than that. But the Steam Deck I'm just saying, that's the number they said. Yeah, yeah, I believe it. So this, like uh a lot of the games that I play on the PC, if I'm getting around 80 to 100 frames per second on a game on my PC that is not new at this point by any stretch, it's like four four and a half years old, but it's still using what were the absolute top-end components when it was new. I'm getting like 60 to 70 frames per second on the Steam Deck now at lesser resolution. At home, I'm running 4K. Steam Deck is just 1080p. Yeah, but it's also a smaller screen, so your dots per inch are way higher. And for me, what I do is I actually have my my glasses plugged into them, so I don't even play it on the little screen. I play it on what looks like a 160-inch screen. Well, and through virtual glasses.

SPEAKER_02: 11:46

Yeah, and now you're gonna have a different option for that.

SPEAKER_00: 11:50

Exactly. And that's the the next really, the next announcement. So the one of them is is obviously the Steam. I don't know if they're calling it the Steam Cube or the Steam Box or whatever it's gonna be. Then the next thing is they've got a brand new set of VR goggles. And they are smaller, lighter, more compact, higher resolution, I mean, better in every respect. Everyone that's doing reviews right now that's tried them on is blown away at how good they look. They're not the most, uh they're not the highest resolution. You can actually buy 4K per eye right now, but you're gonna be paying in the thousands of dollars, not in the hundreds of dollars.

SPEAKER_02: 12:36

Well, and not we we don't have any prices on this, so we don't know how much any of this costs.

SPEAKER_00: 12:40

Well, we don't, but everyone's guesstimating based on what they're doing. Like the the the box they're saying is probably gonna be a hundred bucks more than uh PS6 or PS5, whatever the current one is. I don't even know. So, whatever that box is, the Steam one will probably be a hundred bucks above that, which should be enough justification for people to spend a difference in money. These glasses gamer.

SPEAKER_02: 13:06

If you're a PC gamer, you're not gonna even consider the like I don't see this as a console that's gonna take away sales from PlayStation. I just don't because console gamers are console gamers, PC gamers are PC gamers, they very rarely cross over except for brief periods of time.

SPEAKER_00: 13:22

But there are people that play console because they don't want to spend two to four grand on the PC for games. Sure. But they would love to play the games on PC that aren't available on consoles or are just crappy on the console. So I think it will take people and move them off of the PSP and the Xbox onto the Steambox to give people much more of a PC experience without the cost of a dedicated gaming PC.

SPEAKER_02: 13:53

So I think I think they'll next it's like someone like me. I think it attracts old school PC gamers like me. Yeah, that isn't they were gonna spend anything.

SPEAKER_00: 14:02

Exactly. But now, do you have an Xbox?

SPEAKER_02: 14:05

I have old versions of Xboxes, an old Xbox, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 14:09

Yeah, so you never bought the new ones, but yeah, I think it's a perfect product for people like you, but also for some people that just they'd love to, but they're not gonna spend four grand on a gaming.

SPEAKER_02: 14:19

Gene, do you know what my main gaming console is? Your phone. No, I don't play games on my phone. Okay. No, it's a Raspberry Pi. I don't never play it in my life. It's a Raspberry Pi running Retro Pi with a ever with almost every game from NES through PS1.

SPEAKER_00: 14:42

Yeah, that makes sense. Anyway, back to the the 3D goggles. So they're they're they don't require any uh sensor or what do you call those things? Any blasters, you know, the the crap you used to have to put up all over your room in order to be able to have 3D move movement of your head. So they actually have cameras, four cameras inside the goggles that just look at the room you're in, and then based on those four cameras, stereo vision uh or quadrovision, I guess, they they create the movement within the game itself.

SPEAKER_02: 15:21

Which this is brings up privacy concerns, right? Because you've got something that's literally recording your room.

SPEAKER_00: 15:28

Well, it's not recording, it is using data from your room. It's like having a camera that's not broadcasting on Wi-Fi.

SPEAKER_02: 15:36

Yeah, and uh and Alexa's not listening to you.

SPEAKER_00: 15:39

Alexa, don't listen to me. Anyway, the I think the price point's gonna be a little shy of a thousand bucks, is my guess.

SPEAKER_02: 15:48

One of the things I thought was interesting is you don't, it's not an accessory. You can load games directly onto it.

SPEAKER_00: 15:55

It's both, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 15:56

So you can play it can be an accessory and you can stream to it. Yeah, but also it you can in you you can use it by itself.

SPEAKER_00: 16:04

Yeah, you you can load games into it like the current Steam Deck. So you can load games directly onto it. It's not a particularly fast processor, so you're not gonna be playing games like Cyberpunk on it or Red Dead Redemption or anything like that. But you absolutely can hook it up to either one of these Steam Cubes or a gaming PC, a high-end gaming PC, and then use or the Steam Deck. Or yeah, or the Steam Deck, exactly. So it'll work with any of those. And it's funny because that's kind of what I already do with my with my glasses on the Steam Deck, except I have much lighter, thinner, smaller version of glasses.

SPEAKER_02: 16:51

Right, but you don't have the motion or the 3D. I do, it's just a monitor.

SPEAKER_00: 16:56

Well, no, it's got motion, not the same. Well, no, it's it's not a fully sort of enclosing VR kind of view. But the glasses I have absolutely do 3D, so I can games that support 3D, I can play in 3D. And the head movement gets passed in into the game as well. So they they do have that, but it's not as immersive an experience as a traditional VR headset. Because what the glasses are really for is for having a virtual screen in front of you when you're on an airplane. Now, whether you're doing work on that screen or whether you're playing games on that screen is up to you. But and whether you're looking at shit in 3D, uh, the company actually sells 3D cameras specifically so you can take 3D videos uh that you can play back in 3D on the glasses, the ones that I have. But anyway, this set I will probably pick up this Steam uh set of goggles because it's gonna be I think a lot more comfortable. That's the other thing. Like the glasses I have, they're fine for three to four hours. But after that, you kind of want to take them off and rest your eyeballs.

SPEAKER_02: 18:14

Yeah. So the last thing they introduced was a new controller.

SPEAKER_00: 18:20

Yeah. So that well, uh that goes the controller well, two things. With the glasses, you also get probably the best VR controllers out there. Because they they're two sticks independent of each other, so you can use your hands, your arms movement for a game input, but they also just duplicate what traditional controllers have on them that you hold one controller with both hands in having a stick and buttons. So they kind of do it all, and and that comes with the glasses. And now the last thing that you mentioned, and I'm gonna I forgot to grab the nice T before we started. So you describe that and let me grab an ICT.

SPEAKER_02: 19:07

It's a fat Xbox controller, it's got some impressive capacitance stuff, some neat tech on it. One of the really cool things about it that I thought that I don't know if Gene even picked up on, but it's got a 36-hour battery life. I don't know who the fuck needs that other than Gene sitting in front of his computer all day long, you know, doing God knows what. Let's not ever picture that, right? We don't want to picture that, kids. It's not a pretty sight. What are you picturing? You sitting in front of your computer for far too long because I was talking about the battery life on the controller being 36 hours.

SPEAKER_00: 19:42

It's it's it's adequate, it's not great, but it's adequate.

SPEAKER_02: 19:46

Just think of what that room smells like, kids, after 36 hours of gameplay with Gene there.

SPEAKER_00: 19:53

Well, I'm not playing sports games for Christ's sake. What do you think? I'm sweating in the games I'm playing? Come on.

SPEAKER_02: 19:59

Dude, okay. I don't know. Anyway, no, it's uh it's a neat controller with some of the capacitance stuff and everything else that they were doing.

SPEAKER_00: 20:06

It's a very high-end controller. I'm absolutely picking one of those up, even though I generally don't use controllers. I do like to have a backup controller plugged in just in case. This will replace my Xbox controller.

SPEAKER_02: 20:18

I mean, actually, I can see like Elite Dangerous, that being a great controller for Elite Dangerous with a keyboard beside you.

SPEAKER_00: 20:26

Well, and that's what I've kind of used the Xbox controller for is if I'm don't judge, if I'm playing a different game, and then I can have Elite running as well in the background. Oh my god. So I can do two games at once.

SPEAKER_02: 20:42

But Gene is slightly addicted.

SPEAKER_00: 20:46

Why waste time when you can do two space games at the same time?

SPEAKER_02: 20:50

Alright, well, I've got two tech tips, and then we need to get to politics.

SPEAKER_00: 20:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 20:55

Alright, so the first tech tip, I was troubleshooting some things. Uh, if y'all listen to the special episode that we did, you may have heard me cut out a couple of times. And what it turned out to be, and I did a whole bunch of stuff while I was doing this, and the the the solution is not the tech tip. What it turned out to be was the driver or Windows update changed some settings on my wireless card so that it was not preferring five gig five gigahertz. So I had to end up figuring that out. But in the process of troubleshooting this and some of the issues that I've been having lately, I went and used SDI. Gene, have you ever used SDI?

SPEAKER_00: 21:38

The SDI software.

SPEAKER_02: 21:41

All right. SDI is a really nifty tool. It's open source. Anybody can use it, and it uses open source databases, so it's not everything, everything, but it is the best driver update utility that you can use. It goes and finds, it identifies your hardware, goes and finds on the database the appropriate latest, greatest drivers, and downloads them and installs them. So you can put all your driver updates in one spot.

SPEAKER_00: 22:14

Why is this Sonor and Design Institute also do drivers, not just gun training?

SPEAKER_02: 22:19

Snappy driver installer is what it stands for.

SPEAKER_00: 22:22

That's what it is. Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 22:23

Yeah. No, it's it's really like I know SDI.

SPEAKER_00: 22:27

It's advertised on all the gun channels.

SPEAKER_02: 22:29

No, but anyway, SDI, great little utility, open source. Everybody should check it out if you've got a computer, because it will go to the driver manufacturers page, not your computer manufacturers page, which may be you know several generations out of date. So it's fantastic. It's way better than letting like your video card software do the updates itself. It's quicker, it's faster, it's cleaner install, and it'll create a restore point for you in the process of all this. So it's a very well thought-out utility. And the other thing I wanted to bring up, a new addition that I just did to my mini PC that we're recording on right now. I added six terabytes of storage in RAID 5. Oh, nice. With hard drives I already had using a DAS. So I've been looking at NASA's and thinking about how I'm gonna upgrade and how fast I want to go.

SPEAKER_00: 23:24

But direct access storage.

SPEAKER_02: 23:26

Correct. So versus network attached storage. Correct. So QNAP has a great little DAS with four bays that does hardware RAID, 250 bucks and runs at full USB-C speed.

unknown: 23:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 23:43

So I bought one from a company that I don't remember, and it's made for SSDs, not regular drives, but it was written around the same price point.

SPEAKER_02: 23:53

Right. But what I wanted is something I could use. You know, I had some Western digital black two terabyte drives sitting around. So I still have two spares sitting in the closet of those drives. So I'm good. But anyway, those are the tech tips.

SPEAKER_00: 24:09

Yeah. Um I'm sure that somebody's gonna say, what's the device? What's the link? So if you send me the link, I'll stick in the description. Yeah, or I'll send the Amazon search for.

SPEAKER_02: 24:19

I I'll send an Amazon affiliate link to you.

SPEAKER_00: 24:22

Yeah, do that.

SPEAKER_02: 24:24

But it's the TR-004 by Q nap.

SPEAKER_00: 24:29

Mm-hmm. TR004 by QNAP. There you go. Cool. Well, that is good. So do you want to start politics?

SPEAKER_02: 24:42

Politics. Do you want to start with the shutdown or Epstein?

SPEAKER_00: 24:48

I have not read anything about Epstein. So we gotta shut it down real quick.

SPEAKER_02: 24:53

Okay, shut down it is. And by the way, right now it is 219 on the Stas I got is 219 on Amazon.

SPEAKER_00: 25:02

Oh, that's the price. Okay. I was like, what the hell are you talking about? Okay, price of it is 219. And yeah, so shut down. Keep in mind that Amazon's Black Friday sale is about to start.

SPEAKER_02: 25:14

Right. So it may be even cheaper by the time you're here.

SPEAKER_00: 25:17

It may be. Because as I complained about on the last episode or two episodes ago, that you know, my the price of my air conditioner went down by 200 bucks. Like, son of a bitch. So I would I would queue up all the things that you want to kind of consider buying, but I wouldn't actually pull the trigger on anything until Black Friday week is actually here because it is a whole week. And then make those purchases.

SPEAKER_02: 25:45

Alright, so the shutdown is over.

SPEAKER_00: 25:51

Which I have mixed feelings about.

SPEAKER_02: 25:53

Me too. I I it could have stayed going for a while longer for me. Like a year, yeah. Although I will say, as someone who travels Oh yeah, flights are affected for sure.

SPEAKER_00: 26:07

Yeah. And United, I think, is more heavily affected than some of the other airlines. I don't know why. But it seemed like they were announcing more cancellations.

SPEAKER_02: 26:16

Well, some of their major hubs were literally shut down.

SPEAKER_00: 26:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 26:21

That's a problem.

SPEAKER_00: 26:24

So yeah, they Democrats essentially didn't get anything out of this. They just held it up for 45 days or 47 days, whatever it is. Well, they they did get they did get a couple of things. Yeah, I'm only aware of one. What what are the couple?

SPEAKER_02: 26:45

Snap benefits are funded through September, but the shut the next shutdown will be in January.

unknown: 26:51

Right.

SPEAKER_02: 26:53

And then Congress is paid through September, which is bullshit.

SPEAKER_00: 26:58

That is kind of bullshit, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Not a fan of that, but also not surprised at all. Usually how that goes. But it's interesting now because in taking a little bit of a break from watching the the right side, the conservatives rip themselves apart, now watching the libs yelling at each other about how there are traitors amongst them and that they should have never capitulated to the Republicans. So that that part of it's definitely enjoyable. Also have to mention one of the guys that's been a sole voice of sanity for the Democrat Party.

SPEAKER_02: 27:46

And who would have ever guessed it?

SPEAKER_00: 27:48

That would be the guy that I've affectionately named Lurch, because he kind of reminds me of Lurch from the Adams family. What's his actual name? Blanking out. I always think of him as Lurch. Fetterman, that's right.

SPEAKER_02: 28:02

John Fetterman.

SPEAKER_00: 28:03

John Fetterman apparently collapsed earlier today.

SPEAKER_02: 28:07

He felt lightheaded due to Well, remember, on the campaign trail he had a stroke. He did, yeah, absolutely. And was non-verbal for a while.

SPEAKER_00: 28:17

And then he came back almost a Republican. It's amazing. It's amazing what happens when blood gets cut off to your brain.

SPEAKER_02: 28:26

Well, it it's interesting because we would argue, yes, it resets something. I have heard more than one Democrat make the joke. Yeah. See, he's brain damaged. That's why he's voting like this.

SPEAKER_00: 28:37

Yeah. Well, it is a funny joke, no matter how you slice it. But the guy has been one of the lone voices of reason in the Democratic Party. And he still hasn't flipped. Like he hasn't said, well, the party's left me. I've decided to go the other way. No, he still considers himself a Democrat. But he he's like the Democrats have to start acting in the interest of the people that voted them in. And I think that's pissed off a lot of Democrats. And so somebody from the Hillary camp tried to take him out. So this is where my can my conspiracy theories start to kick in. Because I I just think it's too the timing is a little too convenient here.

SPEAKER_02: 29:22

Well, and let's be clear, it's not like he it's not like he fell and oh, oh my god, he's okay.

SPEAKER_00: 29:28

He's hospitalized. Yeah, yeah, he's in the hospital. He collapsed, meaning he fell. They said that he wrecked his face. So I think somebody injected him with a sedative, stuck him in the back of a van, drove him to a uh safe house, put some drugs into him, beat the crap out of him, threatened him, and then brought him to a hospital. And we'll see if my theory is correct, and that'll be determined by what he says in his first real post-hospital interview. Mm-hmm. Well, and if all of a sudden he's fully supportive of Mandani, then we'll know he's been he he had a talking to. So, but he is an entertaining guy, even though he's on the wrong side of the aisle. He is definitely somebody that I enjoy watching. The fact that he strolls into Congress wearing Basketball shorts is hilarious.

SPEAKER_02: 30:28

No, the i i it's uh that bugs me.

SPEAKER_00: 30:32

I think it's funny. There's no sense of decorum. Yeah, and that's essentially what you know what, they'll they'll get decorum when they start acting like they deserve decorum. Because they don't right now. The Congress they are not at any elevated status far as I'm concerned. So do you see uh Massey's trying to cause more trouble?

SPEAKER_02: 31:01

I didn't. What's he doing?

SPEAKER_00: 31:02

So he had uh tweeted, because that's what congressmen do these days. Uh they get on X and they instead of calling or emailing, they just publicly tweet things. He said that he had a he received a letter from an FBI whistleblower talking about how the FBI insinuating cash specifically has been covering up the investigation for uh the the bomber from January 6th. How they've been under the rug.

SPEAKER_02: 31:39

No, they've been bringing it back, baby.

SPEAKER_00: 31:41

Don't argue with me, dude. This is what he's saying, what Massey is saying, based on information from this whistleblower guy. And he said, you know, he effectively is threatening Patel and saying, you know, it is a felony to impede a whistleblower or to retaliate against a whistleblower. Basically saying he's trying to call him on the rug and to tell him that you got caught impeding this investigation. Now, Cash responded with pretty strongly worded response on X as well. And then Bungino chimed in in there as well and said, Look, you have my number, you can pick up the phone and call me whenever you want, but you choose to put this on X. So let me provide some images showing when we've actually talked about it. I mean, there I think they're starting to go into full battle mode against them at this point. I think he probably knows that he's not getting re-elected, he's done, his political career is over at this point, and he's just trying to cause as much trouble as possible. Kind of like Tucker. He knows his career's over, but he's still trying to cause as much trouble as he can. And, you know, what what do you do in this situation? Because you're you basically have people that know that people are seeing through their bullshit, they're moving on, and they're just running on emotion, they're running on hatred and on emotion and trying to paint a dark picture of the people that they are considering are oppressing them. So as much as Massey seemed like he had a good story, you know, with with the tragedies that have happened to his family, the living on the farm and everything. In the end, he kind of turned out into a not just a never Trumper, but a never working with a Republican Party guy. I mean, he might as well have been in the Democrat caucus. Yeah. So I think I think uh the odds uh I haven't checked polymarkets. I guess I could have done that before the show to see what the odds of him being replaced versus staying in office are, but I suspect the odds are pretty slim that he's gonna be here after midterms.

SPEAKER_02: 34:04

That he won't be here after midterms?

SPEAKER_00: 34:06

Yeah, he won't get re-elected. I mean, the the odds that he will get re-elected are tiny. Because there's a very small likes him, including from Trump and a lot of political action groups that have committed to spending hundreds of millions of dollars to get him out of there. And I think that they're gonna do it. Okay, it's all it takes is to motivate enough people to have a doubt about him and have an alternate candidate who doesn't have any doubts. So even if somebody's not horrible, if there's somebody that just is clearly somebody's gonna do a lot more benefit to work with the Republican Party and ensure that things actually get done, I I think that's the person more likely to get re-elected. But we'll see. We'll see. All I can say is we know that when there's a lot of money behind politicians, even the really shitty politicians get re-elected. And in this case, the money is against him.

SPEAKER_02: 35:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 35:13

And literally, like when the president of the United States has said, I don't know what happened to him, but we gotta get somebody in there that's that's gonna actually fight for America. That's not the message you want to have from a president in your own party about you.

SPEAKER_02: 35:30

No, it is not. But you know, I I I don't know, man. I like Massey.

SPEAKER_00: 35:37

Well, I did too. I I like the backstory of Massey, but having watched him now for the last three years, I mean he's like uh Rand Paul on steroids. Like his job in Washington is to make sure that the his not an insult. That allegedly his party doesn't get shit done. No, I would be much happier if he was working this hard at preventing the other party from getting things done. Okay. So anyway, I don't I don't have a dog in that pony race because I don't live anywhere near him. I'm just stating what I've seen and and which essentially entails Trump and a bunch of people that spend the money on political ads all saying that they're gonna make sure he doesn't come back. Okay. What else is going on?

SPEAKER_02: 36:30

So the Democrats leaked some excerpts out of the Epstein files that implicated Trump, except when you the Republicans turn around and change their actions. And one of the it's emails between Epstein and Giz Lane, and uh one of them says, Jiz Lane. Uh there's a joke in there about Jizz.

SPEAKER_00: 36:57

Don't be an anti-Semite, man. Don't be an anti-Semite.

SPEAKER_02: 37:03

I I really want to make a joke about Jiz right now, but I won't.

SPEAKER_00: 37:07

Yeah. Okay, moving on. Don't make jokes about Jiz Lane.

SPEAKER_02: 37:10

Uh going to hell. Anyway, no, emails back and forth, and they were talking about the dog that didn't bark, and you know, why hasn't Trump been implicated in this? He spent hours at his house with one of the girls. Well, it turns out that the girl that they were referring to was Virginia Dufray, who testified that no Trump has never done anything wrong or in my presence and that was nothing but a perfect gentleman. But they redacted that it was Virginia Dufray. Yeah. So they were trying to make an implication here. They were using Tucker tactics. Exactly. And well, and here okay, okay. Anyway, here's the thing. What that makes me think is yeah, Trump's in these files, but it's shit like that. And the they're they're gonna try and make it seem like it's more than it is. Now, I know a lot of people out there who largely agree with me on a lot of things. Think no, Trump's as dirty as the rest of them. He's definitely diddling little girls, and he's in there. Yeah, I can't see like I don't I I think Trump likes women. I think he likes young women, but I think there's a really big difference between women I don't even think he likes young women.

SPEAKER_00: 38:27

I think he looks he likes beautiful women, and women tend to be more beautiful when they're younger. I mean, it's just one goes along with the other, but but he also likes breasts, so he doesn't like young women. He likes women that look like women, not women that look like girls.

SPEAKER_02: 38:44

Right. So could have Epstein tricked him with a very overdeveloped 16-year-old or something? Yes. But I don't see him going after any.

SPEAKER_00: 38:56

The first thing I think of if Trump is placed into a situation where he's alone with a really hot 16-year-old, is Trump spending an hour talking to this girl and telling her how great he is, and nothing happens. Like Trump gets more he he gets more of a rise out of uh to use the overused word that Darren seems to really like. He he loves bloviating about all the great things that he's accomplished. And I think that would probably be what he would spend the majority of the time on.

SPEAKER_02: 39:32

I think he would think as soon as you're old enough, come find me.

SPEAKER_00: 39:37

Like shit like that. I don't even I don't even think it's anything like that. I I think first of all, Trump is very happy with his wife.

SPEAKER_02: 39:46

I don't think he's I mean he's been divorced a few times, and not from this one. I agree. I think he settled down with Milania. I think it's when he turned 60, he settled down.

SPEAKER_00: 39:58

Yeah. Yeah. And so is that your plan, Gene? I I settled down at 50, dude. I didn't even wait to 60. But he he is just if we were talking about a Trump in his 20s or even 30s, I think there would be much more of a potential for something to be there, like a there, there. But when you're talking about Trump in his 60s and 70s, which is the the timeline of uh his interactions with what's his face? Epstein. Epstein, yeah. I think like the earliest time that they could have met Trump was like 56.

SPEAKER_02: 41:01

So I just Well, I mean, they knew each other going back to the 90s, so I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_00: 41:07

They yeah, well, they knew each other. They were at the same event that when I looked at the stats, it looked like 1996 was the earliest that they could have met. I think in 1992.

SPEAKER_02: 41:19

Because he was Epstein was at the wedding to Marlowe Maples, I believe.

SPEAKER_00: 41:25

You're kidding. Really? I don't I believe so. Maybe, maybe, but either way, I don't see an older Trump being all that interested. I think there are some men uh that absolutely would be interested in their 50s, 60s, 70s, and even 80s because they they just like that, you know, that kind of conquest kind of feel that like I can still get me somebody this young, no matter how old I am. I just don't think that's Trump Motus apparently. He he enjoys not conquest, I think he enjoys being uh adored. Does that make sense? Like he likes the adoration of somebody who's really like just soaking in his greatness and like, oh my god, you're an amazing person. There's nobody that's as great as you are. You're you're the best, you're number one. I mean, who doesn't like that? I don't like that. I start to get you know, I don't trust that. I I start getting suspicious right away. I'm like, why are you saying this? What do you want? What are you trying to accomplish here? The surest way for somebody to be in a honeypot is to be overly overly liked, overly adored. Dude, I get bombarded daily with hot chicks that are like dropping in. Uh-huh. I do. I do on Discord, on X. Did I have to do it? Those aren't chicks, Gene. Yeah, well, exactly. That's the first that's the first part is that how many of those chicks are chicks and like zero of them actually look like they're photos. But you know, you you just you can't trust shit like that. And I think for some people, they absolutely do trust it because they they want so badly to feel like that's real. Anyway, I th my theory, I've said multiple times, I'll just repeat it briefly here. My theory has always been that the reason the Epstein cover-up is still a cover-up is because nobody wants to show that Epstein was getting paid by US intelligence to get black mail material. That's not something that we admit to doing in our intelligence.

SPEAKER_02: 44:00

Yeah. Did you see that uh two of the higher-ups at the BBC got fired?

SPEAKER_00: 44:06

I saw the article that was condemning them. I didn't see that they got fired. So there's already been a resolution to this.

SPEAKER_02: 44:13

They've been fired for editing the January 6th uh stuff. Yeah, and then uh the BBC, as of a couple of hours ago, has formally apologized to President Trump.

SPEAKER_00: 44:25

Wow. Well, they really don't want to pay that billion-dollar lawsuit, do they?

SPEAKER_02: 44:30

No, but it's not gonna matter.

unknown: 44:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 44:33

Yeah, Trump's been had a pretty good record on uh suing news media organizations.

SPEAKER_02: 44:38

Which which let's remind people, especially our foreign listeners, um, in the United States, getting getting that if you're a public person, winning a defamation suit or a slander suit is almost impossible.

unknown: 44:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 44:57

You have to prove that there was malice.

SPEAKER_00: 44:59

Right. There was actual intent, not just outcome.

SPEAKER_02: 45:04

But I will say their edit is very intentional. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like this is a slam dunk suit in the United States.

SPEAKER_00: 45:12

Absolutely. It is essentially changing the meaning of what he says to be contrary to what he's saying in order to achieve a particular goal.

SPEAKER_02: 45:22

Yeah, this is why so many people are convinced that Trump called for violence on January 6th. It's shit like this.

SPEAKER_00: 45:28

It's the same thing that happened with the march in uh was it North Carolina, South Carolina, whatever it was, where he said there are perfectly fine people on both sides.

SPEAKER_02: 45:38

But not the white supremacists or neonazis that should be neglecting. Right. He was talking about the people who want the statues to stay and the people who want to take the statues down, but the neo-Nazis and white supremacists, they're a whole different thing. They should be condemned totally, is what he said.

unknown: 45:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 45:55

Now, unfortunately, the white supremacist neo-Nazis also didn't hear him saying that, and so they all think that Trump supports them. But yeah, it it's it is it would be very, very Scheidenfreude for him to actually continue on with the lawsuit and get it.

SPEAKER_02: 46:14

Well, what's so funny is he's gonna get out of office as an even bigger billionaire because of the exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 46:22

That's actually a very good point. If he gets out of office, I I'm gonna vote for Trump for king personally, but uh you know let's let's let's get Trump out, and if we're gonna do that, let's get Vance in, test it out. Vance should be the prime minister, and Trump can be the king.

SPEAKER_02: 46:42

Jesus Christ, we're not going to a parliamentary system. That would be horrible.

SPEAKER_00: 46:50

I don't know. When you find a good benevolent king like Trump, I think you you you can't let him go. You gotta hold on to him.

SPEAKER_02: 47:01

So, all right, anything else we want to cover on that?

SPEAKER_00: 47:05

On that topic, no.

SPEAKER_02: 47:07

I mean, we've got other political shit, but so AM. I gotta talk about my Aggies a little bit. Not necessarily a sports ball, even though we are 9-0, you know, doing really well. And we've got South Carolina coming into the house this weekend, so that's gonna be a fun game to watch. But AM has hit a lot of backlash over the race and gender stuff. Um and I've talked about it on the show, where you know they're still teaching shit that by Texas law they're not supposed to. So AM has gone through and after the resignation of the president of the university, has gone through and really put forward a scrub of materials that you know, looking at syllabus, syllabi, and really going through and tightening that up.

SPEAKER_00: 47:59

Mm-hmm. Good. So that's a good thing. It is a good thing, but I think it's still just addressing the symptoms because if the professors that pushed all that ideology, are you? Well, yeah, they need to be fired. Yeah, until they're let go, it they're still gonna do it, it's just not gonna be in the curriculum. Yeah, it's gonna be just part of verbal exercises in class.

SPEAKER_02: 48:22

Yeah, but we've already seen one student come out and record, and you know, that's what got the university prison fired was the student that recorded and got pressured by the university to not talk about it. So I think the campaign that's going on on campus by a lot of conservative movements is if you see something, say something essentially, like record it, put forth the evidence.

SPEAKER_00: 48:44

See something, say something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 48:47

Yeah. But what what's gonna end up happening is that will now be grounds for termination, the way the new rules are set up. So it's gonna take some time to weed out all the professors, but I think it's gonna work.

SPEAKER_00: 49:01

Yeah, I again I think we're moving in the right direction. The the question there is are we are we moving at a pace that gets us away from this stuff quickly enough, or are we still dragging a lot of legacy bullshit from the left along with us? You know, like the fact that the that AM decided to ignore the law tells you a lot about the people that are working there. Like they're not just complaining about a bad law and then going along with it, they're literally disregarding Texas law. So that's a systemic problem. That's not a one-off. And you know, getting pe having high-profile people like a president leave while it serves a certain like, well, look at them, they're making changes kind of purpose. Yeah, ultimately, I think they'd be better off firing ten professors than firing one president. Because it's not it's not likely that this came down as a dictate from the president. It's a lot more likely the president effectively is a scapegoat because the buck stops with him and he didn't do anything about it, but really it came down from several of the professors. So, and those professors likely still have jobs.

SPEAKER_02: 50:26

We'll see. I I think the student body is going to be motivated to weed this out over time.

SPEAKER_00: 50:32

You mean like the uh the gropers that are going there, or what?

SPEAKER_02: 50:37

No, the uh I'm sure there's some gropers who go to AM, but just the the conservative student body. Like AM is one of the student body, it is one of the most conservative, consistently conservative public institutions in the nation. It is not nearly as conservative as when I went there, it is not nearly as conservative as when my father went there, but yes, and the reason why is AM is a school with a very deep military tradition. So to go to AM up until the 70s, you had to, it was, it was you had to have a military contract. It was an it wasn't a U.S. Armed Forces Academy, but it was an ROTC only school, which also meant that it there were no women. It was a male-only school for forever. So yeah, it's actually the first public institution in the state of Texas.

SPEAKER_00: 51:32

Was it built as a public one or a private one?

SPEAKER_02: 51:35

No, it's a land grant school. So AM, Texas, Texas Tech are all land grant schools, meaning AM and Texas have land literally in every county in the state of Texas.

SPEAKER_00: 51:48

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02: 51:50

They own land in every county in the state of Texas. How the hell does that work? Because it was granted to them. The land was granted to them by the state government when they were formed. The land in every portion of land was gifted to each university across the entire state.

SPEAKER_00: 52:10

Am I just not hearing that correctly? You're telling me they own land spread all over the state. Yes. That's stupid.

SPEAKER_02: 52:20

No, it's so first of all, Texas AM Agricultural Mechanical was supposed to set up, and this is why you have the Texas and Texas AM system of schools. So, for instance, you have the Galveston campus, which is considered a portion of the main campus, but you have Prairie View AM, you have a whole bunch of other campuses that are all part of the Texas AM system of schools. So that was part of what the original vision was is we're going to establish the main university, and then it's going to spawn off schools and colleges across the entire state. And AM, since it has an agricultural component and mandate for research that still exists today, you need, because Texas is so big and our land mass varies so much, you need land in every area to be able to test things that will improve agricultural.

SPEAKER_00: 53:15

I I don't like grants. I it if they have a need for land, they ought to have bought land.

SPEAKER_02: 53:22

Well, it this is just what the state did in, you know the uh late 1800s to establish back when it was a socialist. Oh yeah, real socialist. The first president of AM was a Confederate, so there you go.

SPEAKER_00: 53:39

Yep. What you think Confederates weren't socialists?

SPEAKER_02: 53:44

They definitely were not. How do you figure? Because I've read enough of their writings.

SPEAKER_00: 53:53

Yeah. They that they were all capitalists? Very much so. Well, I don't know what they would. I I think that I just don't think the two are connected, right? You could have been on the southern side in the Civil War and still had socialistic tendencies. Okay. So I don't know. Anyway, doing a land grant like this, like you explain it, so it makes a little more sense to me now. I still don't like it. I I think that first of all, I'm against state funded universities, period. Universities ought to be private. And those private universities ought to be buying land for cash if they want to expand to other areas. It should not be any kind of grants, it shouldn't be any kind of special dispensations, it shouldn't be anything like that. And frankly, a university should should want not to be a state university because state university is gonna have a lot more restrictions because it is a state entity.

SPEAKER_02: 55:03

Yeah, hence why it we can get some of the woke shit out.

SPEAKER_00: 55:07

Yeah, exactly. But the woke shit shouldn't have come in there in the first place. So it's I don't know. I I on the other hand, you know, I was just reading an article earlier today about the the the problem with Christian universities being very anti-Christian these days. Like a they did a comparison of a whole bunch of different schools that are like in their names that are Christian universities. And they're all gung-ho into you know diversity and trans and identity politics and everything else. Well, this is why I am the remains of the Christian ideals in those universities. This is not the the stuff I was hearing Pat Roberts talk about back in the day.

SPEAKER_02: 55:59

Yeah, and this is where I sit there and say, this is why my kids are only gonna go to like if they want me to pay for it, to like Hillsdale or Liberty. What, no AM? Uh we'll see where it's at. If AM continues to purge and get more conservative and swing back a little bit, maybe, but no, I wouldn't pay for AM right now.

SPEAKER_00: 56:21

Yeah. Yeah, and I'm I'm just you know giving a shit about uh the whole AM thing.

SPEAKER_02: 56:26

But but we'll root for them in football.

SPEAKER_00: 56:29

I and I will happily root for them because I don't have any other teams to root for. So I'm I'm by default, through my friendship with you, I'm an AM supporter.

SPEAKER_02: 56:40

Well, that and we have a very good shot at going 12-0 through the regular season right now.

SPEAKER_00: 56:46

Well, it's good to support a team that's winning, right?

SPEAKER_03: 56:49

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00: 56:51

You know, you don't want to be a Dodgers.

SPEAKER_02: 56:53

I I think the worst case scenario for us, realistically, the worst case scenario is for us right now is 10 and 2. Because we could lose the South Carolina game, could lose the Texas game because we're going to Austin to play at Texas.

SPEAKER_00: 57:07

I should go to the game. No, I probably it's too expensive. I'm not gonna waste money on that.

SPEAKER_02: 57:11

Oh, it's gonna be very expensive, dude.

SPEAKER_00: 57:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 57:14

But watch it on TV because it'll be good. But I think we can win both of those games, it's just whether or not we do. But then we've got our our third game, third remaining game is Samford. We're going to beat Samford. So, worst case scenario is 10 and 2. And we're still going to play with that.

SPEAKER_00: 57:31

Well, well attended is the the AM section gonna be at the the game here in Austin. Extremely. They they take over the whole other half of the stadium.

SPEAKER_02: 57:43

It's in state. This is a big rivalry. Texas beat us last year, especially if we're going into that game literally 11-0. Yeah, it's gonna be a big game. Like tickets will be going for thousands of dollars. I'm not talking about particularly good stuff.

SPEAKER_00: 58:00

That's why I took back my my oh, I should go there. No, I shouldn't. Yeah. And I'm sure you can still get tickets because there's always scalpers around. But you're right. I think the prices are gonna be crazy high.

SPEAKER_02: 58:13

Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be uh it's gonna be interesting.

unknown: 58:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 58:18

But hopefully my Aggies walk into Atlanta for the SEC Championship 12-0 and either beat the hell out of Alabama or Georgia, whoever it's gonna be, and walk right into the college football playoffs as either the one or two seat.

SPEAKER_00: 58:34

And what's the what division are they in? What is this division called?

SPEAKER_02: 58:39

Uh the what do you mean? Well it's not it's not the it's you have FCS and FBS, and you know, AM is in the SEC, which is the conference, so not sure what you're asking.

SPEAKER_00: 58:54

Like Big Ten is the the Midwestern states.

SPEAKER_02: 58:58

Uh and Oregon and uh California like whatever change quite a bit, but no. So the the the top two conferences right now, SEC is number one. We have more we're likely to get five schools into the 12, 12 school national championship playoff more than any other conference. Okay. Big Ten will get a couple, ACC might get one or two, Big 12 might get one or two, and that's it. So yeah. Yeah, the the only two the only two teams in the only two teams that are ranked ahead of AM right now in the national rankings are Indiana and Ohio State. And I would argue that our strength of record AM should be better. But this is not a sport show. We're going way too long on this.

SPEAKER_00: 59:49

Yeah, we are doing sports talk.

SPEAKER_02: 59:52

Yeah, first video game talk, then sports talk, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 59:55

Yeah, well, that's uh this shows a little bit of everything, you know. We got a bunch of stuff. So I wanted I'm just gonna mention this.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:04

Did you watch the Northern Lights last night?

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:06

Um, you know, I walked out and I didn't see them, so I don't know if it was just a little cloudy here or what the deal was, but I've seen a lot of fur.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:13

Too much light pollution.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:14

It could be, yeah. Because I I am like three miles from downtown Austin.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:19

Yeah, so 10 30 last night I was able to see them from my backyard. Which is crazy to me that you could see the northern lights this far south.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I've seen them in Minnesota, more than once. Yeah, I've seen them in Idaho, but certainly not like every year either. It's it's it's still a rare occurrence when you see them this far south. But Texas, that's insane that they were this far south. As far south as Florida. Yeah, that's nuts. It's just tells you the amount of energy that's uh hitting.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:52

Well, it's a huge solar storm, dude.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now we should we should have some mechanism to gather that energy and utilize it. Like build a big reflective dish around the planet. Uh-huh. And then be how that works.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:11

So e so it's a big ball of charged plasma. So you've got a lot of thermal energy as well as, you know, electromagnetic. That would not be easy to capture.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:25

You're talking about the actual northern lights.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:28

No, I'm not sure. I'm talking about solar radiation. I'm talking about the solar the storm that hit us.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:34

Yeah. Yeah, that's not plasma.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:38

It's literally a coronal mass ejection. What do you think that mass is? Well, it's not plasma. Not by the time it hits us because it's cooled, but that's what it originally is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:52

It it's it's gonna be neutrons. Mostly. So and we've certainly we're gonna have anyway. Point is I think that I know I've read it, I just can't remember what book it was in. Sci-fi book, obviously, about building a an antenna or some capture mechanism for taking advantage of these kernel mass ejections, solar flares, and then using them as a supplement source of energy on the Earth. I don't think I've ever seen it in the TV show or movie, but I I have read it in the book.

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:37

So this is as of one hour ago. Heg Seth announces Operation Southern Spear in America's neighborhood. What is that? Breeding. Okay. Looks. And we will protect it. So this is the Neo Monroe Doctrine stuff that we've talked about. So they are formalizing the operation against Venezuela.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:06

So regime change inbound, potentially. Let's see what Fox has to say about it. Talk while I look.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:13

This is well, so the Venezuela, which incidentally, Tucker also talked about how they're a nice conservative country that bans homosexuality, and therefore he doesn't understand why conservatives would be in favor of any kind of a change. Did he really say that? He did. He did. We got video.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:35

You're gonna have to send me a clip.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:37

I've been I've been looking at probably about 28 hours of Tucker clips per day now.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:43

You've really got a heart on for getting rid of Tucker Carlson.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:47

He's gonna be gone. It's just a question of time. I mean, in one of the videos today, so I I So you'd rather have Mark Levin, the great one. I don't I don't like him either. I don't like any of those guys. But I the video that Tucker did responding to Mark Levin, which was an hour and a half long video, the first 10 minutes of Tucker is what I did my analysis and rebuttal to, and that took two and a half hours. So 10 minutes of Tucker, two and a half hour response. So the rest of his video will it'll be about eight to twelve hours total time of pointing out errors, emissions, and lies and in what Tucker's saying. And the beauty is it's not that hard to point it out. You just have to get the clips of him saying the opposite. And then for other things, show actual people saying things not what Tucker thinks he remembers them saying.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:46

So, but anyway, China China moves into Venezuela as Maduro's regime gets a lifeline.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:54

Yeah, shocker, right?

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:56

That's gonna be amazing. That's gonna, but that's gonna be the death nail. That's why we're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:01

Yeah, because ultimately we're more interested in keeping China out, kind of like what we had in uh Panama, than we are in necessarily getting a dictator out. Like the U.S. is friends with plenty of dictators. We don't have a problem with dictators. Is that is that how that works? Well, that's why I keep saying we ought to have Trump as king.

SPEAKER_02: 1:05:27

The Gerald R. Ford is in the area. President Maduro tells the people in the U.S. to unite with Venezuela Americans for peace. A shot clock is running. Trump faces binary choice on Venezuela strikes. Dude, regime change coming. I'm telling you right now. China, China coming in. Done. And I don't think we're gonna go in and occupy Caracas like others have said. I think we're gonna go in, take the head off the snake, and see what comes out and probably send in the CIA to say, hey, go make sure the right candidate wins.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:07

Yeah, I would assume the CIA is very heavily in there already right now.

SPEAKER_02: 1:06:13

Yeah, but you've got the fucking Gerald R. R. Ford, our latest, greatest aircraft carrier there. Yeah. You've got a whole bunch of power.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:21

If you look at it, it's it is a very impressive boat ship.

SPEAKER_02: 1:06:25

Yes, and it is very, very capable.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:29

And Venezuela is preparing their army to stand by their coast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They send all their troops. Anti-invasion force, yes. I don't know, man. I if you're Maduro, what what is your best outcome scenario? Placate the U.S. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I think the scenario is Maduro gets on the phone with Trump and basically says, okay, we we're not gonna even pretend like we're gonna fight this. It's not worth the people dying here, it's not worth the loss of money, certainly not worth my death. So what we're willing to do.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:18

I'm gonna get on a plane to Beijing.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:20

Yeah, or not even like there's he needs to find out like what what condition will make the US make leave him alive? Start with that, and then work your way up to okay, and what if we do this? Can I get like maybe a payout for leaving? Yeah, you know, something to that effect.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:43

Trump, you're gonna send hundreds of millions of dollars of missiles after me. Why don't we just do this?

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:48

Yeah, it it's suicidal of Maduro to do anything else. And I this is anytime there's something going on with yanking America's chain, it always reminds me of the Woody Allen film Bananas, which you probably haven't seen because it came out before you were born.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:10

And I don't like Woody Allen.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:12

But I I think you would like him if you watched this film. So there are different eras of Woody Allen. The first era of Woody Allen was very comedic. You know, he was a comedy writer. It was kind of like Slapsticky, which is I know the stuff that you like because that's the kind of shit you send me all the time. And and that film, Bananas, was very much in that first wave of Woody Allen movies. I think it came out in like 78 or 79, something like that.

unknown: 1:08:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:42

But it was that the idea is that he ends up getting captured by these rebels in a banana republic. And the rebels he starts telling them about you know what what they're doing wrong and what they should be doing. And essentially, he he becomes the leader of these rebels because they realize that he's really smart and they they're going to use this knowledge from him to actually get the United States to get them what they want. And his plan that he comes up with is well, if you want to get money, you want to get support from the United States for your country that's really poor, all you got to do, all you got to do is attack the United States and then very quickly surrender. That action will guarantee that the United States is going to start sending aid.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:43

Yeah, dude, CBS News. Top officials present president with military options for Venezuela in the coming days.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:51

Mm-hmm. Well, I'm just happy that that Trump is the president of peace because that's what I voted for.

unknown: 1:09:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:59

Well, I mean, he's done a good job of it so far through strength. Well, and here's the thing. Like, my argument on this show has been for a since he got elected and we started sending moves that this was going to be a new road. You love that. I know. I know. I I do because I that's what I see that's going to happen. I'm telling you, Canada, Greenland, all the way to the bottom of South America will be vassal states of the U.S. or actual territories of the U.S. Yeah. And I think that will extend out into the Pacific and Australia and Japan and likely South Korea and potentially even Vietnam will be included.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:39

Uh yeah, I think you're you're stretching a little bit there.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:44

No, so I think so I think we're never going back to a unipolar world. I think Trump recognizes this. I think America is going to be back, pull back to be the biggest hegemon out of Russia, China, and maybe the Europeans.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:01

I think what Trump is doing is trying to fix what's been neglected by the last three administrations, and that is the Americas.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:09

Yeah, longer than that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:12

I thought we had something under Clinton that that dealt with South America. Certainly previous to that, we had the whole Iran-Contra thing and trying to keep communism out of the world. Well, in Grenada and Panama.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:25

I I think the last time we really dealt with Latin America was right. Panama, quite frankly.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:29

Panama for sure. Yeah, it could could be going that far back. That's true. But but no, because we we had we had Panama under it was either under Bush or even under under Clinton. Well I'm gonna look it up. Now I I'm I'm confused. Noriega?

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:51

It may have been under Bush Sr. Right after Reagan.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:56

Yeah, let's see. Uh how does it not know that Noriega is Panama? What other Noriega's?

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:04

Did you spell him Noriega right?

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:06

I don't know. It's just kind of spelled generically Mexican. It was Bush, Bush Sr.

SPEAKER_02: 1:12:18

Okay, yeah, right after. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:21

So bottom line is he is realizing that America's been neglecting America. And it's time to get America back under control of America. And I don't think that's a bad thing. I think being more closely aligned with the areas surrounding your superpower makes a lot a lot of sense. You don't want to let China or like I mean back in in the Soviet Union days, you know, Russia was trying to get a foothold there in multiple countries. They did get a foothold in Cuba, they didn't get one in a few other countries like Nicaragua, but they were trying to get those footholds. But lately it's been China, not Russia doing that, and using the more traditional Chinese mechanism, which involves commerce.

SPEAKER_02: 1:13:22

Well, and colonization. Yeah, yeah. I mean like China has offloaded a lot of its uh single uh partnerless men to you know the belt and road countries.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:36

China is the the trade alliance in Star Wars. They're they're the guys that the what alliance? The trade alliance? Isn't that what they're called?

SPEAKER_02: 1:13:45

You mean the trade? The what? I don't think the anyway, whatever.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:50

Okay, yeah, and well, I'm just saying that they have the same goals but different methods as every other empire. So it is definitely in the United States, if we're gonna be talking about America, and I spent a lot of time in my first segment on Tucker talking about what does America first mean, and America first does not mean America hole in the sand. America first and doing what's good for the country means evaluating all the strategic relationships the country has and all the options politically and militarily that the country has, and then making a determination on what is actually good for the country. It does not by default mean never have any political alliances, it doesn't mean never engage in military actions, it certainly doesn't mean never spy on anyone. All those things are all parts of what's good for America. And people like Tucker in the press who don't have access to the classified documents that these decisions are based on are doing nothing more than second-guessing what might be good for America. Anyway, with that little diatribe, my point is that I, like you, am supportive of this new Monroe doctrine, even though historically I've been more of an isolationist.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:21

Well, I think this is isolationism.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:25

It's isolating from others.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:28

Well, it's isolating from Europe, which is war-torn and going back to that and dying in of its own uh own issues. Yes. And then it's also isolation from uh Asia and you know the impact of China on our commerce. Because we have enough bauxite and rare earths and everything in the countries that I mentioned to have an industrial base that no one can touch. And we have and here's here's the the trade-off that these countries that willingly or unwillingly align with us are going to get, they're going to get the spoils of that as well. Like Venezuela's oil production will increase if US companies are in there.

unknown: 1:16:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:26

Absolutely. And the the standard of living will as well.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:31

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:33

Of course. And the potential risk for more revolutions will decrease. Yes. I mean, it's again, it's the Woody Allen movie principle with bananas. It's like the if you want a good future for your country, get into a fight with America and then immediately surrender. So we'll see if they do that literal thing.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:56

My my dad, maybe he got it from Woody Allen, but my dad always joked his retirement plan was to buy a surplus aircraft carrier and declare war on America.

SPEAKER_00: 1:17:05

Yeah, exactly. There you go. Yeah, it it's it's funny because it's somewhat true. Like there is something to be said for that.

unknown: 1:17:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:17:14

Because America does tend to spend a lot of money on countries that it initially goes to war with. Dude, the amount of money that we spent in Iraq after we already captured the country. Oh, God, yes, trillions. It's insanity in Afghanistan was trillions. Yeah, yeah. It just it makes Ukraine look like a nothing burger. We left more stuff in that we brought over in a desert than we've given to any country. I mean, it it's just it's insanity, and I also understand like why that stuff actually works, because it's not the Israeli lobby trying to get wars going, unlike some people would say. It's the industrial military complex that knows full well that when there is military action, whether it's a declared war or an undeclared war, their products sell. And their products are expensive. You know, every time somebody shoots an American missile that's hundreds of thousands on the cheap end and millions of dollars on the high end per unit. This stuff is really expensive. And so, yeah, if someone's manufacturing them, they have to benefit from the use of those instead of just stockpiling them. Because eventually, if you're stockpiling and not using, you're gonna stop ordering new ones. And that's not good for them, not good for the economy. And there is absolutely an argument to be made that wars have always had a positive impact financially on the country. Because they they open up the government spending of the private sector, which does the manufacturing, and that rolls top down, and it's not a maybe pleasant thing to hear, but it's also not really something you can argue against because you can observe it in action. And the interesting part is that only works in a capitalist system. That doesn't work in a socialist system, didn't work in the USSR, because when the government owns the factories and then the government spends the money, it's net neutral.

SPEAKER_02: 1:19:35

Well, and our our our defense spending is what caused the USSR to collapse because they tried to keep up and they couldn't.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:46

Yeah, absolutely. And there would be people that'll argue, and there are fine points, you know, nuances that we're not talking about that also contributed greatly. But I don't think it's unfair to say that we outspent the USSR to the point where they they just went bankrupt and they had to break up.

SPEAKER_02: 1:20:05

Yeah, so this is an interesting return or headline. Reuters, City ratchets up Venezuela's debt bets as U.S. pressure on Maduro builds. So Venezuelan bonds are worth 30 to 60 percent more right now than they were before because City is banking on regime change.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:29

Exactly. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02: 1:20:31

I will say this there is a possibility Maduro stays in if he capitulates and decides to be a tin-pot dictator controlled by us and follows our rules.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:42

Yeah, I I think somebody that's tasted a little bit of real freedom and the real dictatorship is more likely to just want to retire somewhere while staying alive versus continuing to be a target walking around with a target on their back just for a different boss. So I it may happen, but I I think that's less likely.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:03

But no, I think that when I saw that article, that city is literally that they've moved the Venezuelan bond market right now. That is hilarious.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:14

It's and for that matter, I think the uh the lesson learned by a lot of these people that are would-be dictators about Noriega is one to not forget as well, is that if the US gets tired of you, then they just take you out. So you're much better off just going into retirement with plenty of cash and no target on your back.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:40

Alright, so I'm copying files right now, and I probably don't have the greatest USB-C cable in between. Uh-huh. But I and I've got a faster one on order. But right now I'm getting 20 anywhere from 23 to 26 megabytes. Uh or not megabytes, mega uh yeah, megabytes, megabytes per second uh transfer speed, transferring a whole bunch of files.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:09

Good, good. Yeah, and that's the normal hard drives. And I know when I did my test to the SSD, it it fully saturated 10 gig USB-C link.

SPEAKER_02: 1:22:21

Well I I I you know these are the the hard drives are the bottleneck right now, not the mass.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:28

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02: 1:22:28

That's my point. You could put SSDs in here and it supports SSDs, just not NVMe's.

unknown: 1:22:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:22:35

So yeah, I could buy four SSDs and do the same thing, which I may do, actually, because you know, two couple terabyte SSDs are cheap.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:48

Well, the certainly the non-fast NVM uh M2 ones are way cheaper. Right, but again, then your storage outpaces, and that's what I've got in mind because I bought mine mainly just to offload the ones that are in my PC externally and then upgrade the capacity of the ones that are going to the PC. Oh, should should I mention that motherboard that I sent you a link to? Sure.

SPEAKER_02: 1:23:15

We're all over the place this episode.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:16

I know, I know. Well, it is what it is. Yeah, I I just my jaw dropped when I saw that thing. It's just so beautiful, man. It just has so much. How much is it? Like a thousand dollar motherboard? Yeah, it's a thousand dollar motherboard. And I mean, you could see why. It it's it has 13 high-speed USB 4 connections, out of which six of them are USB-C and the rest of them traditional USB B, but still at the high speed. Um it's got, of course, a 10 gig Ethernet on it. But then you look at the PCI bus, it has five onboard high-speed M2 slots, and two out of those five are generation five M2s, which are like 16 gigabit, or it's no, it's more than that. It's they are four times faster than the ones I've got, which are already faster than 10 gigabits. So I think these these are like 100 gigabit speed, basically. And so it's two of them, and then the other three are half that speed. It's it's got literally everything. It has an LCD display, or maybe it's OLED, but it has a display that can show different stats about the motherboard built into the motherboard, and so you don't have to look at little blinky lights when you're assembling this thing if something doesn't power up. The motherboard will literally tell you in plain English what is wrong with it. It it is an amazing uh freaking motherboard. And I know again, people are going to say, Well, if you're talking about it, what the hell is it? You gotta give us a link to it. Well, it's a thousand bucks, so I don't know who who all is gonna want to buy it. I'm lusting after this thing, but I'm not gonna buy it anytime soon. But I I likely will take a serious look at it when it's time for me to upgrade the computer. But it's the the MSI Meg MEG X870E godlike motherboard. It's literally, its name is X870E Godlike. And it really is goddamn.

SPEAKER_02: 1:25:47

They're not proud or, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:51

It is about the highest end AMD-based motherboard that you can buy, and it's priced accordingly. You know, it's it it is it's got white onboard Wi-Fi 7 as well. Anything you can imagine that's current or like just introduced technology, it it's on that motherboard as standard. And you are paying for it, but it's pretty amazing. I don't think this would be particularly useful for anything other than somebody doing high-end gaming. Like, there are better motherboards suited to multiprocessor computing and server applications and whatnot. But for somebody that wants to put in a really fast graphics card into a motherboard that has absolutely everything on board already, I I don't know of anything better. Very, very impressive. And I haven't built a PC totally from scratch in years now. I think the last one I did from scratch was 10 years ago. Uh, the last two I bought assembled, and then I just upgraded components of them. But I think the next one I it I'm kind of getting itchy. Next PC I build, I think, is gonna be built from scratch. Okay. And it's it's and I also like I remember building a$7,000 PC in the past, and amazingly, I even did it while I was married, and so I I don't know how the hell I got away with that. But when you start looking at, I mean, it's like anything else, right? The difference between a really good golf club and an excellent golf club is like six times the price, and it's the same thing for PC components. Like a really good motherboard is about$270. This motherboard,$1,000. And that's gonna be true across the board for all the components. You're gonna go from something that's very good at a few hundred dollars to the best at a thousand dollars. So it it it doesn't take much to get the PC price into that over$5,000 range. Which is just painful. Yeah, it is. But I what one of the things that kind of numbs it is the fact that back in the day, back what now, 13 years ago now, 14 years ago, I bought the uh the Macintosh Pro Trash can model for$10,000. So that kind of makes it a lot of things. Why would you spend that much money expensive? God damn, dude. Because A, I had it, and B, I felt like I wanted to have the best Mac that money can buy.

SPEAKER_02: 1:28:37

Even if I had it, I wouldn't do it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:40

Yeah, but I was doing a lot of photography back then. I was making money with photography, and it was it made sense. It made sense to have something really fast.

SPEAKER_02: 1:28:50

I'm looking at SSDs right now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:53

Black Friday, man. All the prices will drop.

SPEAKER_02: 1:28:55

Yeah, I'm just trying to figure figure out what I want to try and grab. Yeah. Anyway, uh, I'm gonna go with two terabyte. That is one thing to caution is like on some of the NASA's and stuff, you can pull a hard drive, put it back in, uh, let it rebuild the RAID, pull the next one, so on and so forth. So you get all of them replaced and then upgrade. That is not a capability of this unit. So I'll be sticking with the two terabyte size, which is plenty of things.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:24

Or you gotta replace everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:29:26

Right. Or I have to copy all the data off and then back on and da da da.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:32

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's there's pros and cons to getting like NASs that have their own processors, and you can change the the RAID levels to a lot more well.

SPEAKER_02: 1:29:45

This has its own onboard this this is hardware RAID, and it has its own onboard processor, but it's just not quite as capable. But that's why it's so cheap. But what I will also say is part of the reason why I'm so the hard drives are a limitation, and then the other thing is the shortest cable I have is a two-meter cable. And to reach USB-C's theoretical maximum speeds, you have to have, and this is an older cable that's been in my bag for a while, so it is what it is. No more than a meter, right? Anything over that, and you start losing USB-C speed.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:22

Yeah, that's true. I think mine came with an 18-inch cable.

SPEAKER_02: 1:30:27

Right. The and that's the thing is the shorter the better, right?

unknown: 1:30:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:31

Yep. Like this motherboard has five 40 gigabit USB C connections.

unknown: 1:30:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:44

Yeah. I'm like, I have to clean the drool up off the microphone right now. So when are you building your new PC? I'm I'm gonna wait. There's no point in building a PC until the next generation of video cards comes out.

SPEAKER_02: 1:30:56

And there's a you're gonna pick up the 5090 quote unquote cheap?

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:01

No, no, no, no. No, I'm gonna get the good one.

SPEAKER_02: 1:31:03

By the way, the hey, hey, hey, what is it with all the politicos calling it instead of NVIDIA Nvidia? Like, I've heard so many people Trump called it Nvidia, someone in Congress called it Nvidia, fucking Glenn Beck called it Nvidia.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:19

Like I think it's people that have just never heard it pronounced before. If you read it, it's just the letter NV. So they're saying Nvidia, Nvidia. They just probably think that's how you pronounce it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:31:31

Come on, there has to be some intern or someone cringing around them, going, no, no, it's this.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:36

Oh, there's a lot of interns cringing, but they're also smiling. They're like these morons. Yeah. I think it's just like nuclear, dude. I think it's just kind of like people that clip know how to pronounce things.

SPEAKER_02: 1:31:50

Jesus Christ, you're you're you're you're you're Adam and I'm John. You're always being mean to me.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:58

I'm not even thinking of you. I'm thinking of George Bush. Uh-huh. George Bush and this whole nuclear. It's like the saying goes, it fool me once and don't do it again. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02: 1:32:15

I wish memes had been a th more of a thing when Bush was around.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:20

Oh, we we had a lot of fun with that one, I remember.

SPEAKER_02: 1:32:22

Oh, dude, I remember I was on 4chan and everything back then. You gotta remember, I was a teenager back then. I was into all of it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:32:31

Yeah, it's e-bomb's world and all that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:35

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. All the all the websites for the modern the great groupers. Uh-huh. 8chan, 4chan. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02: 1:32:47

Alright, Gene. What else you want to talk about, man?

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:49

I don't know. There is a whole lot else because we kind of covered a lot of tech, a lot of the usual politics. And again, so what I'll be doing, and I'll be right back.

SPEAKER_02: 1:32:57

Well, and we've talked twice this week.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:59

Well, we did, but that episode there was uh, you know, a special. So we're doing this, we're recording this after we did our previous religion special. And I I think we're gonna keep doing those occasionally, not not like every week, or maybe even necessarily every month, but I I think that there'll be enough topics where it makes sense to do a religion special. But the other thing I was thinking about.

SPEAKER_02: 1:33:23

Well, and I would say I don't want it to just stick with a religion, but general philosophy. Like if we want to do a deep dive on, you know, different philosophical things, like I would love to debate rationalism with you.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:35

And I proposed, I think about a year ago, that we do a like if we were gonna start a country and write a constitution from scratch, what would we put in there? And then you thought that's kind of neat. And then when I asked you, do you want to do it? You're like, nah, I don't have time.

SPEAKER_02: 1:33:50

Well, I and that's the problem, is I would have to actually really dedicate some time to do that. Like, I can't just spitball that one.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:58

Exactly. Yeah, you wouldn't want to just like start recording and then come up with something that's my job. So yeah, it it's it's interesting. I've been reading that book that I told you that I got from totally randomly from a dude on on X. And it's pretty pretty damn interesting. I actually think you'd enjoy it from what I've seen so far. I'm I'm now a hundred pages into it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:34:25

What's your biggest?

SPEAKER_00: 1:34:27

How many pages the book is?

SPEAKER_02: 1:34:29

No.

SPEAKER_00: 1:34:30

925. That's not too bad. Yes. And I've been chatting with the author pretty regularly on it as well here. But yeah, I I just I think I like for this uh video that I made, I'm gonna obviously put that on X and maybe YouTube. But also I think I want to put some do like an episode, not not super long one, maybe like uh 45 minutes to an hour where I take some of the clips and some of my responses to those Tupper clips and then stick a Tucker special in here or something. And then again, as with all our episodes, the ones that don't have the word special in front of them, you know, they're gonna be like this one. They're all over different topics. It's just a basically a recording of a what would otherwise be a phone conversation between Benjamin and myself. But the special ones no one calls me, right? Oh, your mother calls you Benjamin. Yeah, when she's pissed off at me. Oh, she she was telling me about Benjamin when we were talking. Anyway. And so I knew that was a hot button for you. And so it's funny because once that I live.

SPEAKER_02: 1:35:54

As a kid, I always knew I was in trouble. If she said, Hey Ben, I'm all right. Benjamin, I'm in trouble. And then yeah, she got so I have two middle names, right? And as she got through the first middle name and the second middle name, and if she got to the last name, dude, I was running. That's great. I ain't no dummy. Your mom is a hoot, man. Oh, she all right. So people need to picture this. My mom was, was four foot eleven. She is no longer my dad is six foot three. I would rather get in a fight with my dad any day of the weight than my mom.

SPEAKER_00: 1:36:30

Your mom's a honey badger.

SPEAKER_03: 1:36:33

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00: 1:36:34

Yep. Yeah, and and I I I deeply appreciated getting invited to her birthday party. That was a blast. That was fun. You know, I it was a little quieter for me because I got there late because traffic, but I still had a great time, and I got to actually spend some time chatting with both your parents, and that was very enjoyable. And then I don't know where the hell you were. You were just gone the whole time. I was around. You were around, I don't know what you were doing. I'm not even gonna say anything, I don't want to get you in trouble, but let's just say I had plenty of time to do it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:37:10

I wasn't doing anything to I wasn't doing anything to get myself in trouble.

SPEAKER_00: 1:37:14

Thank you. Yeah, trouble that that's by the way, one of his two middle names right there. Uh I'm not gonna dox you any more than that, but uh, I will I will definitely say that. So, anyway, what I was trying to say is anything labeled special, look at the topic that's mentioned. If you're not interested, feel free to skip the episodes because we will do more specials, not just in religion, but on other topics. And I also would like to start getting potentially some guests coming in to where we can both interact with a guest and not just each other. I I kind of feel like the people that enjoy us right now and are contributing money, and we certainly appreciate everyone that's currently donating. You know, it's something that helps to offset our monthly expenses on doing the podcast. We're not making any money off this, we're not like Darren, we're not buying brand new Macs off the money we're generating. We're that money literally just stays in to pay the hosting fees and all that kind of stuff. But I think these people would enjoy having a little more variety of specials that we put out there for them as well. And the specials that we put out will always have that word special in front. And so if if the topic's not interested, if we have a special about cars and you're not a car person or sports or something, I'm probably not gonna be on the sports one. But if we have a special with that title, then by all means, feel free just to skip it because you know that the next episode after a special will always be one of the normal ones. And with that, we'll wrap things up, Ben. We'll see you next week. See you, Gene.