SPEAKER_04: 0:25

How Eben, how are you today? I'm doing great, Gene. Yourself?

SPEAKER_00: 0:29

I'm all right.

SPEAKER_04: 0:31

Yeah?

SPEAKER_00: 0:32

What's shaking?

SPEAKER_04: 0:34

Well, we had a almost unanimous vote from the House and the Senate, and the president signed a bill in less than 24 hours.

SPEAKER_00: 0:47

That's the everybody one dollar bill?

SPEAKER_04: 0:51

No, it's the Epstein bill.

SPEAKER_00: 0:53

Okay. I'm kidding. I knew that.

SPEAKER_04: 0:57

Well, there were only a couple people who voted against it, which I think is interesting.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01

Like who?

SPEAKER_04: 1:05

I I didn't even look at it. There were there were like four nay votes. It's like everybody. First names I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12

Yeah. Well, I'm sticking to my original prediction back a year ago. We're never gonna get it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22

At this point, well, at this point, what's gonna stop it?

SPEAKER_00: 1:26

A judge.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29

How is a judge going to stop it? It's an act of Congress.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32

It might be an act of Congress, doesn't matter. Congress uh does not have the authority to supersede the Constitution. And what constitution Well, I'll leave that up to the uh Fifth Circuit Court out of Southern District of New York.

SPEAKER_04: 1:47

We'll see.

SPEAKER_00: 1:48

Because they're the ones that know how to impede a president.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54

I think that'd be a case for impeaching a judge.

SPEAKER_00: 1:57

Look, there's been plenty of judges that need it to get impeached. Has a single one been impeached?

SPEAKER_04: 2:02

Uh no, but we can start somewhere, Gene.

SPEAKER_00: 2:05

We should have started years ago.

SPEAKER_04: 2:07

Yes, agreed.

SPEAKER_00: 2:08

And an impeachment is too good that you get a tar and feather.

SPEAKER_04: 2:13

Yeah, tarred, feathered, shamed in the public square.

SPEAKER_00: 2:17

Pilloried.

SPEAKER_04: 2:20

Well, I don't know. I have hope that we'll at least get something.

SPEAKER_00: 2:24

I think we're gonna get a bunch of nothing. But if anything, it'll just be bullshit that literally says nothing about anything. What people want to know isn't the Epstein documents or the Epstein list? I mean, they kind of want the list, but what they want to know is who was Epstein? Why was he allowed to do what he did for so long? Under whose protection? And why did so many people that we do know about, like Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Bill uh Gates, and Trump, why did so many of these people interact with him? Like these are the questions people want to answer. We're not gonna get those.

SPEAKER_04: 3:05

I don't know, we'll see. Well, I mean we might get Bill Gates.

SPEAKER_00: 3:09

You've said we'll see for a year, and I've said we won't get it for a year, so we'll see. Okay, but we we actually are gonna be getting it.

SPEAKER_04: 3:16

The in one of the interesting things came out was the congresswoman from the Virgin Islands, a non-voting member, admitting to texting back and forth with Jeffrey Epstein. Well, he was a constituent. Uh-huh. And like, how did he have your number?

SPEAKER_00: 3:33

Let's say he was a donor, not just a constituent. And I think well, maybe this will come out, maybe. This is not a smoking gun, but I suspect he was a donor to quite a few politicians on both sides of the aisle.

SPEAKER_04: 3:48

Yep, and I think that'll come out.

SPEAKER_00: 3:52

But even if it comes out that he donated money, I don't think we're gonna get a whole lot of names. Look, nobody wants to make their lives worse by putting something out there that will attract unwanted attention at things that they themselves have done. Who among politicians is so clean that you can't find anything in their background?

SPEAKER_04: 4:18

Dude, people could find shit in your and I's background really easily.

SPEAKER_00: 4:22

No, I buried them really deep. So I don't think that's an issue. But if you're a politician, you generally are not so squeaky clean that you have nothing. And if you have something, you'd rather not have that something come out. And if another politician says, Well, I'll tell you what, I'll help you make sure nothing comes out of your something if you help me with nothing comes out of my something. That's how the game's played. See, people forget that these politicians have to work together the entire time for two to six years at a stretch. They are better friends with each other than they are representatives of the people that elected them. Okay. We've seen this. I mean, this is this is this is the kind of behavior that we can also point at occurs not just in politicians, but like with what's her name? The X Fox babe, Megan. Megan with a weird Megan spelling.

SPEAKER_04: 5:23

Megan Kelly.

SPEAKER_00: 5:24

Yeah. You know, she I like, I don't think she's a racist, but she values her friendship, whatever it is, with Tucker, enough to not want to say anything bad about him. So do you think politicians have different attitudes? It's the same exact thing. You got politicians on both sides of the aisles that are don't want to say anything bad about another politician unless it's totally innocuous, then it's not gonna matter. How many politicians are going out there and saying Lindsay's gram is frickin' flaming gay and you know he gets drunk and gets fucked up the ass every night? No one's saying that. Why? Because it doesn't happen? No, because they don't want to rock the boat.

SPEAKER_04: 6:16

I don't know if it happens. Allegedly. Yeah, I you better watch your P's and Q's there. Because Trump's about to prove that you know things can be taken as actionable. I I don't know. I think anyone high profile enough has probably been scrubbed, to your point, but I think we're gonna get some some red meat out of it.

SPEAKER_02: 6:48

Well, you're an optimist. Always happens.

SPEAKER_04: 6:53

I okay.

SPEAKER_00: 6:56

Compared to me, dude.

SPEAKER_04: 6:58

Dude, compared to you, like not even gonna make it.

SPEAKER_00: 7:03

Everyone's an optimist, I know. But I don't know. I I still don't think there'll be anything substantive. I I think there may be some things that'll come out, but they'll be innocuous, they'll be in one of two buckets. Things we already kind of knew because everyone's success said them before, like, you know, Bill Clinton was obviously flying there for something other than the food. Like, not really anything, you know, not a revelation. Like, we all knew this. We we've known that Clinton has extramarital sex for 30 years now. Okay. Bill Gates, you know, as soon as he got divorced, it was pretty obvious that was gonna be the case with him. Well, and that's the thing, right?

SPEAKER_04: 7:51

That's Melinda Gates came out and said that his or his Melinda Gates came out and said that, you know, part of the reason why she was divorcing Bill was his relationship with Epstein.

SPEAKER_00: 8:02

Yeah, exactly. But she didn't say his relationship with minors.

SPEAKER_01: 8:07

She didn't send her husband to jail.

SPEAKER_00: 8:11

So I think what we're gonna find out is that everybody whose name does come up is gonna have a very similar story to Trump. Oh, yeah, no, he went there. Yeah, there's records of him going there, but he was a perfect gentleman and we never had sex.

SPEAKER_04: 8:28

That's gonna be the case for everybody. But Trump didn't ever go to the island. I think there's a pretty big difference there.

SPEAKER_00: 8:34

Yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_04: 8:35

But I'm just saying, I think that's what we're gonna get, is essentially of the people Trump was the one who ratted Epstein out to the FBI.

SPEAKER_00: 8:44

Yeah, yeah. But uh that's my point isn't about Trump. My point is that nobody else will look any more guilty than Trump because they're going to have some way to basically say, well, yes, but just because he was there, nothing actually happened, and we don't have a single witness that that says this was the guy that assaulted her. I think all the people that have been sort of claimed to have assaulted somebody, these people are not politicians. These are not people anyone's ever heard of, but these are people that can press and push politicians to make sure their names don't come up.

SPEAKER_04: 9:34

So conspiracy theory time.

SPEAKER_00: 9:38

Oh, yeah, I have nothing to base this on. I'm just basing it on the phone. I've got another one for it. Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04: 9:44

So MBS went to the White House right before this got signed. Yeah, so that I don't know if it was a planned trip or not, but it's interesting that on this trip, he upped his commitment to invest in America from 600 million or 600 billion to a trillion and by F 35s.

SPEAKER_00: 10:04

And that's kind of what I posted too on X is I said, you know, it's interesting. What what do we have on him that he uh just got pushed into spending even more money?

SPEAKER_04: 10:12

These upsteam files are coming out.

SPEAKER_00: 10:13

So what's your name scrubbed? It's a fun conspiracy, however, I don't think there's anything there. First of all, he's younger than you.

SPEAKER_04: 10:21

He can do he's a young boy and he can do whatever he wants in his own country.

SPEAKER_00: 10:25

Exactly. He can literally have as many women in a harem to do any actions he pleases with and get rid of them any way he pleases, and he's still who he is, and no one's ever gonna put him in in jail. He is untouchable.

SPEAKER_04: 10:41

And he is not, he's not exactly a good Muslim.

SPEAKER_00: 10:43

I have he's not well, he's the best kind of Muslim as far as I'm concerned. Well, the Muslim doesn't like Islam.

SPEAKER_04: 10:51

Well, he he so I I I think I've sent you these pictures before, but I've got a buddy who worked on cybersecurity for the nuke operation over in UAE. And anyway, it's just kind of interesting and funny when you see a picture of MBS passed out on said buddy's couch. That's funny. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 11:14

Well, although you know they all look alike, so it's hard to tell.

SPEAKER_04: 11:18

Oh no, no.

SPEAKER_00: 11:19

I I I I'm not gonna give out a name, but this guy's very flight to Turkey.

SPEAKER_04: 11:31

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00: 11:31

And just staying there. I and it's maybe surprising. I like MBS. I've always liked them.

SPEAKER_04: 11:39

Well, I mean, he took out Khashoggi, who let's not like.

SPEAKER_00: 11:42

Yeah, well, that's one thing, right?

SPEAKER_04: 11:44

I mean, he Which that was hilarious. He's like, sorry, we have improved our processes. Uh-huh. It won't happen that way again.

SPEAKER_00: 11:50

We've implemented ISO. Wait, what? Look, I was I was surprised. Okay, there's a number of observations. First of all, he's a much better speaker than I think anyone expected. And I don't I don't just mean English vocabulary, I mean conveying what he's trying to convey. I thought his statements were very good. They were clearly worked out and rehearsed beforehand, but that's fine. He ought to do that. He's a leader of a country. But they took the proper approach to dealing with stuff, which the old school approach would have been to just bury everything under the rug. It's like, no, it'll never happen. I don't know what you're talking about. The proper approach that lets you move on forward and disarm your critics is to say, yeah, we we definitely had some issues, but you know, it's fixed. We're not gonna have that happen again.

SPEAKER_04: 12:46

Right, but the the way he said it implies that, you know, we won't get caught next time.

SPEAKER_00: 12:52

Exactly. Yeah, because I I've literally heard Putin say the same thing 20 years ago. And I've had I've heard uh Benjamin Netanyahu say the same thing 15 years ago. So this is this is very good evolution, I think, of MBS. The other thing that's very interesting is I recently watched a very good documentary on the line, and how the sort of general view, you know the line's been canceled now, right?

SPEAKER_04: 13:24

I didn't know it was cancelled, but sure.

SPEAKER_00: 13:26

Yeah, but the general view is like, oh, those idiots, the what the hell were they trying to do? You know, build a glass tower that is you know hundreds of miles long through the desert. That's so stupid. But what this video actually went through is it analyzed all the things that starting this process actually did for the country, and then it computes the actual cost, and the cost was about one-twentieth of what the total projected cost of the line was, and they got a frickin' bargain for that 120th price on what technologies they brought in, what kind of end results they ended up getting. They got a bunch of touristy shit built as one-offs as a result of this as well. That'll recoup the money. It was also something that you got playing in the background. This is funny. What I have playing is a a noise from Signal saying somebody's calling me, who's a guy that I just talked to yesterday saying, Hey, I'm gonna because we was joking how he also seems to call when I record a podcast. And it's it's I don't think he plans it. I think he just gets off work in California about the time that we start recording the podcast, and so he ends up calling me almost every episode. Anyway. Yeah. Well, you know, that's Jesse But he's like, sorry, dude. It's like, yeah, we just talked about this. Anyway, so I I think that they spent what they they spent 500 million and they got a whole ton of stuff done without spending the trillion that this thing was gonna cost. Or the or a hundred billion, sorry, not a trillion. So anyway, so that was a very good move. The other thing about him, which is fascinating, I didn't connect the dots, but this makes total sense, is he has been going after Wahhabis. Oh, yeah, and eradicating Wahhabiism from Saudi Arabia.

SPEAKER_04: 15:47

Well, and part of it is because you know, he wants Riyadh to become the next Dubai. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's the whole point of building the airline and everything else that he's doing. Like he's building up another major regional airline. So you've got yeah, you know, three of the world's best air or two of the world's best airlines right there next to each other with their major hubs in Doha and Dubai. That's Emirates and Qatari Airways. Yep. And you know, you don't really need a third major international hub, but I'm my company is one of the companies working on the King Solomon Airport, and telling you right now, dude, that's gonna be an airport like no other airport in the world.

SPEAKER_00: 16:29

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure. Well, and that that's the other thing is he is very active, he's very personally involved in a lot of these big projects. So it's not like here's money that's been allocated, go do this. Like, he will actually you know be one of the guys that decides which architectural firm is gonna work on this thing.

SPEAKER_04: 16:52

Um more detailed than that.

SPEAKER_00: 16:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's I know. But it he is very hands-on, especially for a prince and not a president. But getting rid of Wahhabiism allows Saudi Arabia listeners who don't know, what is Wahhabiism? So Wahhabism is a well, it's it's a it's hard to say because it's it's a combination of both political and religious interpretation of Islam.

SPEAKER_04: 17:26

But it's a radical sect of Islam. Well different than Shia and Sunni.

SPEAKER_00: 17:33

Yeah, I mean that's that's a generic American version of it, but Wahhabi is his forefathers' version of Islam, like the house of Saud. It's not really his forefathers because there were two families that were competing against each other in Arabia for control, and one was the Saud family, and the other was the Wahhabi family. And the Wahhabiism essentially is the religious practice that was popularized or more than just practice, but but like mandated by the Wahhabi family, and one of the things that he has been doing actively is rewriting Arabian history to remove Wahhabi from it, that whole family.

SPEAKER_04: 18:27

Uh, this is what is so cool about actually having royalty, is it's like watching you know Game of Thrones or or Stalin, the picture of Stalin where people start getting edited out over the years.

SPEAKER_00: 18:42

Yeah, yeah, but Stalin, like lineage-based royalty, like people that have multi-generational control of countries, not just one-off dictators, those are a lot more interesting. And I I'm not a I'm not a fan of Stalin, and I'm not really a fan of MBS either, but I will say that it's fascinating to watch what's happening there as an outsider, not as somebody who's living in Saudi Arabia, obviously. Because he has been very carefully but very methodically cleaning house. And I think his goal is very much to make Saudi Arabia the model for how an Islamic country can work and integrate with the West successfully.

SPEAKER_04: 19:33

Well, and that goes to Trump after the meeting called Saudi Arabia one of America's major non-NATO allies.

SPEAKER_00: 19:42

Yeah, well, Trump says it to everybody he meets, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 19:46

No, not quite. I mean, you got to look at how much American hardware Saudi Arabia buys. They buy a ton of American hardware. They do. And the Saudi companies, and this goes for the entire Middle East, like Dubai and everything else. Dubai, Doha, and so on. You have the menial workers that are usually from somewhere in Africa or India. You have the middle class that is the Westerners. Doesn't matter what color your skin is. If you're a westerner, you're the middle class, and then the top are the Emirati or the Solved family, and that's that. But what's interesting is nothing happens over there without Western labor. Saudi Aramco, the just quote unquote decision makers are all, you know, prince this, prince that. But the reality is the people who are actually running the company day in, day out are not the general Arab population over there. It's Western workers. Yeah. Saudi Arabia has been trying to clean up the books for Aramco for several years now because they want to go IPO. Because they believe it'll be the last time.

SPEAKER_00: 20:57

I remember they wanted to go IPO three years ago.

SPEAKER_04: 20:59

Yeah, but they gotta clean up the books.

SPEAKER_00: 21:03

Yeah, and there's an awful lot of Pakistanis there as well. The they're a huge labor force that's employed. But I think that there's a if things go ideally for the West, which is obviously what Trump is banking on, what we will end up with is a Middle East that is pro-Western, not constantly fighting Israel. Or each other. What? Or each other, yeah, exactly. And is tied financially so deeply to the West that they can't fuck with the West either. Like too, like too many projects in common, too much money going back and forth. It's a way to effectively do what the US was hoping to do with China back in the 80s, which kind of didn't work. But but the hope is that it'll work in the Middle East. So this is very much a strategy for America to create a not just a peace in the Middle East, but really a long-term stable environment, which right now is not the case because of too much emotion.

SPEAKER_04: 22:31

Well, but I think there's two big key differences between what we tried to do with China and what we are doing now with the Middle East. One, the majority of the Middle Eastern population in UAE, Qatar, and Saudi, which are our main targets, because they're the closest ones to the West already. But the Abraham Accords are moving that needle. And I think what you're gonna find out here in the next year or two is Saudi Arabia is going to join the Abraham Accords, and that's gonna be the that's gonna be it. But I think the difference next year. But the difference is the Arab states, especially the leadership of the Arab states, are extremely capitalistic. They love money. And they are they're very anti-communist in that. Now, will they give social services and things like that to their people to stay in power and just shut them up? Sure, because they have enough money to do so. But they do not want communism, they do not want a Chinese hegemony, they want to be in the West sphere of influence just from an economic standpoint. The other thing that you have to realize is the population. So the actual population of UAE Qatar and Saudi are majority just green card holders, if you will, right? They're visa holders. And they can be deported at any time, that visa can be revoked at any time. If you don't have a job, you're gone. And their actual native population is shrinking. So they don't have the one child policy issues, they don't have the workforce to compete with the West except for what they import, they are not going to be a major manufacturing hub. Now, where they may come in, because they don't they they don't give a crap about the environment, right? So when you look at a city like Dubai, that the 99% of their water comes from desalination. Well, that desalination comes at a price, you have the the brine that comes off and you have to do something with it. Well, they're just pumping it in the desert. They don't give a crap. They'll kill, you know, thousands of acres of desert. They do not care. So if we aren't gonna do rare earth mineral refining here, do it there. Let them have that value add in the chain.

SPEAKER_00: 24:54

Yeah, I I don't think they're gonna want to do that. They'll outsource that to somebody that even cares less and doesn't do it and does it for less money. I I think the big thing that is hitting reality for them is they've gotten comfortable with a certain level of lifestyle that is fully dependent on sucking crude out of the ground. And they need to figure out before that crude runs out or before it becomes just too expensive to suck out of how to diversify enough to maintain their control, maintain their lifestyle. And the obvious answer there is you have to be friendly with the West because the West is not just your consumer, but it's also your path to providing long-term financial success.

SPEAKER_04: 25:42

And on that crude front, Exxon just announced a fairly major breakthrough in fracking. We're going into the fourth fracking revolution at this point.

SPEAKER_00: 25:52

Oh, I hadn't heard this.

SPEAKER_04: 25:54

Yeah, so they're taking different, yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, simplified version of fracking. You drill a hole, you take water mixed with sand, and you pump it into the hole to under pressure till you fracture the rock. You let the water come out, the sand remains behind, keeping those keeping those cracks open, but allowing oil and gas to flow out of them through the sand. What they've done is they've taken a refinery byproduct that is typically typically a waste product, and they figured out it's lighter than the sand, so you can make a more aqueous solution, put it in there, and it will hold open the cracks even better than the sand will with better flow. So they're literally getting better and better production out of these wells. In fact, they're going back and refracking some of the wells that had been done with more traditional methods and seeing massive improvements. Well, what does that do? It increases the oil and natural gas supply and decreases our dependency on the Middle East, which lowers gold.

SPEAKER_00: 27:01

Yeah, which really we're we're a net positive at this point. We don't really need oil.

SPEAKER_04: 27:07

We are in energy independent.

SPEAKER_00: 27:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 27:10

We are one of the only countries in the world that is energy independent.

SPEAKER_00: 27:14

Yep. What is your take on what oil is? What do you mean? Is it broken down dinosaurs that have been compressed over the years?

SPEAKER_04: 27:24

Oh, so you want to get into the whole biotic versus abiotic thing?

SPEAKER_00: 27:27

We haven't talked about it. I'm curious.

SPEAKER_04: 27:29

Yeah, so I I think that there is such a thing as abiotic oil. I think when you are drilling close to the surface and you're getting the really tarry, crappy crude, that's biotic oil, that is a breakdown of biological matter. When you get down real deep and you're talking about these real light, sweet crudes, I don't know of a geologic process that would drive biological matter that deep. So, you know, you have to you have to ask yourself, well, if we don't find fossils at that level, if we don't find this, if you know, uh either there's a geologic process that we don't really understand, or there is a way that geology creates it could be just from carbon that's you know was part of the formation of the earth that through geological pressures, like how you it turns in carbon into a diamond, turns whatever residual carbon from whatever you know whatever was in the earth at that point in time into oil. So do I believe abiotic oil is possible? Yes. I don't think we have enough we don't know enough about our earth's uh the earth's geology, right? The theories about what the core is and stuff like that are theories. The the plate tectonics is a theory. We don't know.

SPEAKER_00: 28:55

Well, I agree that we don't know for sure. And it is an interesting question because I think it's really we can theorize that this is biological matter that's gone through some kind of process of high pressure and and high uh temperature, or it could be something we just literally have no idea what it is. Now, I'm sure there are people that are geologists that are laughing at me right now, going, You don't know because you're a moron. But realistically, I've never seen anything that really kind of clearly dis describes what might be the process for abiotic oil. Or biogenic.

SPEAKER_04: 29:42

Biotic or abiotic, we don't have a clear process now.

SPEAKER_00: 29:46

Yeah. Well, I'd I d okay.

SPEAKER_01: 29:49

I've read it as biogenic, but okay.

SPEAKER_04: 29:54

Different term, same meaning.

SPEAKER_01: 29:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 29:57

So the point the point is it's it's cool that we're finding new methods to extract it, right? But it'd be cooler to find how it's made and to maybe either stimulate that or do it not naturally, do it artificially, or we we are already working on some of that.

SPEAKER_04: 30:24

Actually, so there are researchers at several universities that are working on breaking down what did you send me? Oh, that's old. That are working on breaking down plastics and other items into back into you know essentially oil.

SPEAKER_00: 30:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 30:43

Into its constituent hydrocarbons.

SPEAKER_00: 30:45

But I think there still has to be a tie back to organic matter, because otherwise we should be finding oil on the moon or on other planets, you know, it like well, I mean, that'll be the test, right?

SPEAKER_04: 31:02

If we say, hey, the moon's always been lifeless and we go to drill there and that'll kind of be a nail in the coffin.

SPEAKER_00: 31:08

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 31:09

Or if we go to Mars and say, hey, we found no life and we drill there, and hey, we found oil.

SPEAKER_00: 31:14

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I think on the moon we found something even more valuable, but but still.

SPEAKER_04: 31:21

Yeah, helium-3.

SPEAKER_00: 31:22

Yeah, exactly. But it's it's interesting that my entire life I've heard a certain group of people talking about how we've only got about 10 years of oil left.

SPEAKER_04: 31:39

Yeah, and that constantly and get and guess what I've heard that over 50 years. Hold on, huh? Yeah, with the technology from the 1970s, when they first started saying that, they were right. But guess what? We came up with new drilling techniques, we came up with horizontal drilling, then we came up with fracturing, and then we came up with different techniques of fracking. Like we are as Americans, because America is the only country that's really developed this technology. Americans are really good at finding new oil deposits and figuring out how to get it out of the ground.

SPEAKER_00: 32:14

Yeah. Well, innovation in general has always been a strong suit in America. Don't know if it'll continue to be, but it certainly has been.

SPEAKER_04: 32:26

We have to get back to that dangerous spirit.

unknown: 32:29

Right?

SPEAKER_04: 32:30

We have to get back to preferring dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. We have to get back to allowing two men to get into a bar fight and no one calling the cops and getting charged with assault. I agree. I agree. It's uh I'll say it now, and I've said it before. You're not a man if you haven't been in a fist fight.

SPEAKER_00: 32:52

Are there really men that haven't been in fist fights?

SPEAKER_04: 32:55

Yeah. Especially in my generation and younger. That is sad. It is so sad.

SPEAKER_01: 33:04

Yeah, that it really is.

SPEAKER_00: 33:06

Yeah, it's I guess it comes with not being let out alone with other kids the way that my generation was.

SPEAKER_04: 33:16

It also comes with being told in public schools if you fight at all, then you're both getting expelled, regardless of who started it. It also comes from being told generationally over and over and over again violence is never the answer, which is horseshit. The the violence is the answer. The question is when.

SPEAKER_02: 33:34

Yeah. Sorry. It's the feminization of America. So 2A News.

SPEAKER_04: 33:47

I'm trying to remember the congressman's name. Hold on one second. Shit. I lost the story of the city.

SPEAKER_00: 34:01

A bunch of people sent from Congress to the ATF and to the general.

SPEAKER_04: 34:07

Yes, telling the ATF this was our intent of the law. Right. And as a result, the ATF asked for that one-week delay in their brief. So it'll be interesting to see if that letter was part of what triggered that.

SPEAKER_00: 34:23

Yeah, I mean, I this is one area where I'm a little disappointed, and maybe not for good reason, and I'll certainly say that, but I am a little disappointed that we didn't get much immediate two-way relief when Trump got re-elected.

SPEAKER_04: 34:42

Well, but they may be actually playing the long game and actually getting a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02: 34:46

You're such an optimist, I swear to God. They may be, but probably not.

SPEAKER_00: 34:55

I've seen what kind of people Trump brings into the administration. By the way, what is up with Cash Patel? He looked more like a Tesla robot than a human lately. Have you seen him? He's just standing there looking straight ahead, no blinks. The frickin' facsimile of a human.

SPEAKER_04: 35:14

Well, maybe he knows something that's about to come out.

SPEAKER_00: 35:18

But he was lit, I mean, he wasn't running running, but he was certainly making the talk show circuit, much like Bon Gino before the the election, where his main topic was why won't they let us see what's going on with Epstein?

SPEAKER_04: 35:37

Well, now we're supposed to be seeing, so we'll see.

SPEAKER_00: 35:41

You think he's just bracing for having to explain how how uh really Epstein worked for the US government?

SPEAKER_04: 35:50

Potentially.

SPEAKER_00: 35:52

I mean, I guess it would be up to him to do that if he's admin, if his, you know, if the FBI is the one who comes up with those findings.

SPEAKER_04: 36:00

He's sitting there going, oh shit, I'm going to have to be arresting Hillary Clinton.

SPEAKER_00: 36:07

Yeah, because it it's I still think that's the most likely scenario because there's nobody, literally nobody, including Israel, that is worth protecting so much as to have a cover-up this big. Like, if it was just another country and the U.S. had nothing to do with it, they would have outed him a long time ago. Because it's whatever favors were owed would be well over and expired and diminished in size. The only rational reason I can come up with for not being public and open about it is because he was getting a paycheck from Uncle Sam.

SPEAKER_04: 36:48

So the two dumbest things that I've seen come across today's just came across Hakeem Jeffries.

SPEAKER_00: 36:58

Awful.

SPEAKER_04: 36:58

Just did a pref concert conference where he said homeownership has become unaffordable due to climate change.

SPEAKER_00: 37:09

Well, I guess if if all the idiots are spending their money on supporting climate change groups instead of buying houses, maybe? I don't know. It it seems it seems like he didn't know what the hell he was saying.

SPEAKER_04: 37:23

It it seems like a ridiculous speech. Speaking of ridiculous speeches, did you see the uh Christian nationalist slash America first, America only group that went to the Dearborn City Council meeting wearing Bullopper vests? Yes. Yeah. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00: 37:41

I I've seen that guy before. He's an ex. I think it was, I mean, it's a stunt. Like it's not gonna do anything, obviously. They knew they wanted to get it recorded on video, it'll go viral on the internet. What he says is I generally agree with. I think that unlike Adam Curry, which I don't know if you listened to today's episode, I don't see a problem.

SPEAKER_04: 38:04

I've started it. Okay, I haven't listened to it.

SPEAKER_00: 38:06

Well, he's just making he's just saying, look, apparently we've moved on from hating Jews to now hating Islam, and that all these mosques getting built in in Texas is bullshit, and no one's actually, you know, people are concerned about it, but not for any good reason.

SPEAKER_01: 38:22

I I kind of disagree with that.

SPEAKER_00: 38:23

I totally disagree with that. Yeah, I kind of disagree with that. I I have no problem saying that I have known Muslims and been friends with Muslims, but also Islam is an evil freaking religion. So it is it it is not just occasionally, but overwhelmingly telling people to do bad things to those that they disagree with.

SPEAKER_04: 38:52

Well, and and the point the guy was making was I should come to Dearborn and check the visa status of a lot of these people because a lot of them have overstayed, done this, that, and the other. And you know, actually, I wonder how the Hispanic community would react to that. I think they would go, it's not just us anymore.

SPEAKER_00: 39:11

Well, I don't I don't I think there's a segment of the Hispanic community that's very happy right now because they the competition has just been wiped out. Uh, competition for like Mexican taco stands, competition for a whole bunch of stuff has disappeared because the illegals have been swept out.

SPEAKER_04: 39:30

Or are if you if you get arrested and deported, what happens to your stuff?

SPEAKER_01: 39:37

Well, it's not your stuff at that point. And what happens to your stuff if you go to jail?

SPEAKER_00: 39:45

They don't pack it up for you. Well, it depends. If you if you're look, uh say a guy like me, I'm living so a single guy.

SPEAKER_04: 39:52

There they're civil forfeiture laws.

SPEAKER_00: 39:55

But even aside from that, yeah, I'm I'm a single dude. Let's say I end up in prison for like five years. Why that means I'm not paying for my my rent here at the house, right? So all my shit's gonna get sold off by somebody.

SPEAKER_01: 40:13

Not mine at that point.

SPEAKER_04: 40:17

So did we talk about the bail reform bill that passed here in Texas?

SPEAKER_00: 40:23

I was less concerned about it. You you seem to be all for it.

SPEAKER_04: 40:28

No, I was very concerned about it. I didn't want it to pass at all. I have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00: 40:32

Yeah, and you were against it as well. Yeah, but I just didn't care one way or the other, I guess.

SPEAKER_04: 40:36

So the the bail reform bill and the armed attorneys did a great breakdown on this. If you're in a liberal county like Harris County and you're involved in a self-defense shoot, but you're charged with murder. Yeah. Well, according to this, you're not gonna get bail. You're gonna sit in jail until that's resolved.

SPEAKER_01: 40:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 40:59

Which that's gonna force pleas, it's gonna force all sorts of things, and it's not a good thing. Like it passed overwhelmingly here in Texas because a lot of people are thinking, oh, murderers, yeah. Well, you're not thinking about the good guy who a liberal prosecutor goes after.

SPEAKER_00: 41:16

Well, that's because we shouldn't have those. You know, we shouldn't have prosecutors that are just going and being vindictive about stuff like that. If somebody did a clean shoot defense, then they shouldn't be charged in the first place. But I I like I totally understand why people would vote for it. It's I think I actually voted for it now, thinking back to the election. But I I think the reason is that almost daily, those of us that are on X, you see mugshots of people that have been put on bail and or released over and over and over and over, and like, well, if the judges are releasing him, let's make it illegal to for them to be released.

SPEAKER_02: 42:08

So I think that's that's the that's why it passed.

SPEAKER_04: 42:13

It's it's gonna be very interesting to see how attorneys cope with this.

SPEAKER_00: 42:17

Uh yeah, I mean, if you can't get bail, you can't get bailed. But I will say, you know, I've watched a lot of court TV type stuff, like not you know, the show court TV, but YouTube videos that are recorded in courtrooms. Like it's a fun activity for me. And almost every single person that comes in for a felony level crime, but non-violent felony level crime, like DWI or something, they are immediately given a bail amount, and generally one that's pretty damn low, like 2,500 bucks or something.

SPEAKER_01: 43:04

And I I don't know that the intent like why do we even have jails?

SPEAKER_00: 43:11

Why don't we just give everyone bail and not bother building jails? Like, if we have the jails, I think the intent is that we actually place people that are potentially guilty, and we'll find out if they're guilty or not at the trial, but until the trial that we keep them from doing something that society doesn't want.

SPEAKER_04: 43:33

Then you have to have a speedy trial. Yeah, I get that. And I can tell you, right, you know, when you're having to wait six months to see if charges are being brought in certain cases during taxes, especially on the felony side, that's you you're waiting to see if charges are even going to be brought for six months. And that is retarded. It's not a speedy trial.

SPEAKER_00: 43:56

Like that needs to get addressed. That needs to get fixed, in my opinion, more so than just you know, give everybody an automatic bill. Because people that yeah, you shouldn't have to wait at long. I mean, I remember there's one time in Minnesota where I actually used that as an excuse before the judge to say, say, look, this is well exceeded the definition of a speedy trial. So I'm I'm gonna move for dismissal on those grounds. And because we kept rescheduling and the prosecution kept rescheduling. I was like, this is bullshit. I'm getting tired of defending myself. So and the judge agreed. But it's there are a lot of problems with the legal system. There, there was I think I mentioned I was working with a client for several years in a lawsuit, and the the final trial for that case was two months ago. We still don't have a verdict.

SPEAKER_02: 44:59

We're waiting on the judge for the verdict. How's that normal? It shouldn't be. No, it is.

SPEAKER_00: 45:09

No, and it and it was a fast track trial, and it took about eight months to get to uh a trial, and now we're two months past the trial with no frickin' verdict. And uh and about three quarters of a million dollars in legal fields. So yeah, it's the the US legal system leaves a lot to be desired.

SPEAKER_02: 45:36

I don't think they that you have to wait that long in in Saudi Arabia. Well I think it should be El Sumble.

SPEAKER_00: 45:55

Oh, oh, oh, you're roboting. Hang on, Ben, you are sounding like a Cylon. You're roboting, you're Cyloning.

SPEAKER_02: 46:06

Alright, see if it cleared up.

SPEAKER_00: 46:13

Nope, it did not test one, two, test one, two. Oh, there we go, now cleared up. Yeah. Alright, well, I'm just gonna leave that in the test one, two, test one two. You're good. You're good, but you started sounding like a Cylon.

SPEAKER_04: 46:28

Weird. Yeah. My network connection was stable, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_00: 46:31

Oh, you say that. We don't know about the mic connection, I guess. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean, look, we have a lot of bureaucracies that have gotten too slow and fat and big. The medical bureaucracy is horrible. Even though we, in theory, have the best medicine in the world, but we have the biggest bureaucracy that makes that shitty. We have probably the best legal pro-freedom laws in the world, which is not saying much, but we have a big legal bureaucracy that makes that shitty as well. So, you know, if more people settled settled their differences through a bar fight, I think we'd be better off.

SPEAKER_02: 47:24

Agreed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 47:28

So that that's the deal on that.

SPEAKER_04: 47:30

All right, Gene. What other stories you gotta bring to talk about?

SPEAKER_00: 47:33

Well, I we can switch gears a little bit, so I've got something nerdy if you want to talk. Well, I was gonna talk about video games. That's pretty nerdy.

SPEAKER_04: 47:44

Okay, before you talk about video games. Okay. So I'm about to spend probably I think it's$300 and something dollars, is the estimated cost right now on a Lego set.

SPEAKER_00: 47:57

Oh my god. Yes, that is Uber nerdy, and you and Darren probably both are gonna end up doing that.

SPEAKER_04: 48:04

It's the USS Enterprise 1701D that they're releasing, and it's like 3,000 pieces, and I'm gonna buy it and I'm gonna let the kids help me put it together, and then it's going in my office and they're not touching it.

SPEAKER_00: 48:20

So it's basically a 3D jigsaw puzzle. Yep. Yeah, I get it. I I get it. I enjoyed Legos when I was a kid. I built a lot of shit, but I also, you know, when I was a kid, Legos only had a couple of different shapes, not like the gazillion they have now. And there was no such thing as Lego motors or anything like that. So I actually ended up using a lot of styrofoam when I built stuff as a kid. Like repurposing packaging material and using acetone and heat and just like making spaceship toys out of garbage, basically. They were always spaceship toys. There was always a theme.

unknown: 49:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 49:10

They we didn't have a whole bunch of shapes of Legos when I was a kid. But I built a ton of spaceships and like I would watch Babylon 5 and I'd build like the Agamemnon Destroyer and stuff out of Legos on my own and stuff like that, or a Star Trek, you know, Enterprise E. I built and I actually still have some of those intact that I built as a kid.

SPEAKER_00: 49:36

Same kind of deal.

SPEAKER_04: 49:37

Yeah, but anyway, what's interesting is I gave the out of the models that I built that I didn't out of all the Legos that I had, the ones I kept were some of these really cool models that I figured out a way to build on my own. And then I gave all my other Legos to my son, and he's playing with them. So yeah, it's it's just uh he he loves them.

SPEAKER_00: 49:58

I remember when they built the the Mall of America in Minnesota, and it had the the theme. I don't know what's the theme, but it was the theme was Snoopy, which is stupid. But they had one of the big sponsors was Legos, and so they had like a Lego land, which consisted of places for kids could go and play with you know tons and tons of Legos, which obviously is a marketing thing. Gets your parents to then go and buy you Legos so you play with them at home, but they also had a bunch of these professionally built large-size Lego creations, and I remember one of the biggest ones they had there, and this is uh we're talking like early 1990s, they had a Death Star that was about 10 feet in diameter, which looked pretty cool. I mean, it was all you know Lego, but like I couldn't imagine back then, or I back then I was thinking, I can't imagine how much this cost. Because I I started thinking of how many Lego packs you'd have to buy to build some of this shit. What's amazing now is people are literally spending thousands of dollars, or I think Darren's wife probably more like ten thousand dollars a year on Legos. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04: 51:26

And I don't know if it's I'm sorry, how much a year?

SPEAKER_00: 51:29

Oh, people are spending thousands, but I I th from all the stuff Darren's talked about, she probably spends 10 grand a year. She really likes Legos. Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, some people are into more of the exotic limited edition stuff.

SPEAKER_04: 51:47

Yeah, I've never spent I've never spent a hundred bucks on a single Lego set before.

SPEAKER_00: 51:52

Well, you will now be a unique thing. I wish I could say I've never spent a hundred dollars on the spaceship I have. And that's what I actually want to talk about. So today, right now, was the first day of the ship showdown or the ship show of Star Citizen. And that's a game I've talked about since we started doing this on and off. It it's it's a game that is not finished, first and foremost. It's in still in alpha after 13 years, which sounds ridiculous. There have been people that bought it when they were teenagers that are now have kids of their own. And it's still not released. And a game that I got into pretty deeply right around COVID, maybe a little before COVID, and then after about two years, I realized, man, this thing is not moving anywhere quick. It's a snail space. All the dates they're giving out of they'll probably be done next year is all bullshit. It'll be another decade. And I I think I was right on that because I'm not an optimist. And so they're making super slow progress, but they're they keep making new ships because that's how they fund the game. They effectively are selling new ships every year that people will buy and then funds the game. Now, so far they've they've raised a little over a billion dollars without having a product. Without having a release product, I should say. Which is crazy. But during this event, which is the next 10 days, you can play the game for free, so you don't have to spend any money to see what it's all about. And you can go to what basically is a car show. If you've ever been to a car show, you know exactly what it is in a large convention center, except for spaceships. So every day or every two days, every other day, they rotate the manufacturer of the ships. There, there's a bunch of different manufacturers in the game, and they will rotate which manufacturer is currently doing what, or which one is currently in the convention center. So you can go and see all these ships parked indoors, climbing them, check everything out. You can also rent any of these ships for I don't know how long, a week, something like that, right at the show as well. So if you really like a ship, you want to see how it flies, you can rent it and then go to the spaceport and you'll have that ship to play with. And of course, obviously, their grand objective is for you to like the ship so much that you end up buying it for real money. Real money ship prices go from about 40 bucks on the smallest, lowest send ships to$1,700 for one ship. So it's just like Legos, if you think about it.

SPEAKER_04: 55:06

You're not actually spending this.

SPEAKER_00: 55:08

Oh, I'm not anymore. I was previously.

SPEAKER_04: 55:11

You're not actually spending this.

SPEAKER_00: 55:13

I'll tell you later. Ah, Jesus.

SPEAKER_04: 55:15

But uh have you sold your ships off?

SPEAKER_00: 55:18

I'm trying to. I've got them for sale.

SPEAKER_04: 55:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 55:21

Dude, you I think you might be surprised. How much I've I've bought of these things. But also, you know, I was single and making money, so who cares?

SPEAKER_04: 55:33

What I guess. It's like it's I don't know. I'd buy guns or gold and exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 55:39

Imagine buying guns, but they were in a video game. Same kind of deal.

SPEAKER_04: 55:45

Yeah, I wouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_00: 55:46

I know, I know. Well, anyway, the good news is the ships really haven't lost their value. They, in fact, a lot of them have gone up in value. And so when I sell them, I actually make money. But the idea, obviously, when I was buying them is just to have them, not to sell them. So what I'm long version short here is if you like spaceships in video games, definitely check out Star Citizen. However, do not spend any money. And you don't have to right now because for the next two weeks it's free to play. And you can rent any of the ships and check it out. If you like what you see in that game enough that you're like, oh yeah, I definitely want to jump in, then buy the absolutely cheapest, smallest ship you that you can for real money, and then just by playing the game, make enough in-game money to buy any of the bigger ships. There's zero real reason to own a ship for real money unless you're a collector and it's it's a tenuous thing to collect and take it from somebody who was a collector. So, but it is really cool looking. It is the highest fidelity space game that currently exists. It is very photorealistic, it has multiple solar systems with a variety of themes of what different places look like from cyberpunk to sort of an Apple store theme to Cloud City. Like, what was it cloud city in Star Wars? What was it called?

SPEAKER_04: 57:27

Uh I don't know. I'm not a Star Wars fan.

SPEAKER_00: 57:31

Really? You don't remember?

SPEAKER_04: 57:33

I really don't remember. I don't either. I can't remember really. I really don't.

SPEAKER_00: 57:38

Yeah, I just well, either way, it's got a lot of interesting locations to go to and interesting ships. The problem is because it's not released, or it's not released because there's still a bunch of bugs in the game, and there's a lot of stuff that is half-built, and so things may look great, but they're like you can't actually do anything with them. So, not something anybody should spend a bunch of money on, but it's a good opportunity to basically see what a cutting-edge space game visually looks like without having to spend any money. So that's my pitch for checking out Star Citizen.

SPEAKER_04: 58:18

A game that's still in alpha.

SPEAKER_00: 58:20

Uh uh for the last 14, well, 13 and a half years, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 58:24

Yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 58:28

It looks very pretty. It's very pretty. Not really. I mean, other than that, uh, like I think I'm kind of done with Battlefield. I was playing that for a while, but it it's like a lot of things. I needed to get that kind of out of my system. I get up to level 80, which is all I was really trying to get up to.

SPEAKER_04: 58:46

I've trying to get up to level 80.

SPEAKER_00: 58:49

It just unlocks everything, so I've got all the guns now. Just, you know, kind of a completionist thing.

SPEAKER_02: 58:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 58:59

But they've added a bunch of stuff since that is less interesting to me. Because they've also added like a free version of the game now. Which is a subset of the full game. You don't get the campaign, you don't get a lot of the weaponry, but you you can actually play a version of it for free now as well. Which, you know, after paying 80 bucks for it, kind of feels like, well, what the hell? But I I know there's a big difference between the free version and the the uh full version. That and then Gray Zone, other game I've talked about, which is a very realistic military sim. It's the kind of thing where you know you if you get shot, you you see a little X-ray with exactly where you were hit and the kind of damage you had, and the you may need to treat your wound with not just a bandage, but a a suture or a uh surgery kit, take out the rounds if they hit organs, things like that. It's got real ballistics, and it's the game that I I showed you, Ben, where you can fully disassemble and assemble weapons from components. And so I kind of referred to it as a gunsmith simulator because that to me was one of the funnest aspects of the game, Gray Zone is being able to just like take apart the guns. Into the actual components that the real weapons use, and it's all real guns. There's no fake guns in there. So that had another release that increased the frame rate, which was awesome. Always good when they increase the frame rate in the game. And then we talked about the big news that everyone's still talking about. We talked about on the last episode, which was all the stuff from Steam, all the announcements for the Steam Cube, Steam Box, whatever they're gonna end up calling it, and their new VR, which is somebody did a hilarious video comparing the Apple VR headset to the Steam one. And and the Apple guys they find. What? Oh, it was it was a it was comedic. It was a comedy thing, because they the this one's not released yet, right? So you can't really directly compare it. They just had samples for a few select high profile people like the Canadian guy. What's his name? You know what I'm talking about. Anyway, what Linus. Linus, yeah, yeah. What what they were saying is Linus. Linus, yeah. Yeah. What they were saying is so they did a thing, it's like, yeah, and and you can play games on it. And the Apple guy is like Gm. Gum. What are those? What? Making fun of the fact that you can't play games on the Apple one. So you're buying a three and a half thousand dollar VR headset, which you can't play games on. And doesn't really serve any purpose. One thing I also saw, which is a kind of tech related, not games, is a review, a very in-depth one, of a new DJI drone, a little tiny one. And what was it called? The something maybe Mini 2, but it's a model version 2 of their little tiny drone. And it, I think, does everything that my old professional drone used to do. Except you don't need a license, you don't need a permit, because it's underweight, because you you you only need a permit if you're flying a larger drone. It has much better AI type things, like following you around when you're walking or riding your bike, and it can be in front of you, behind you, on the side of you, or flying around you. Like it's it's a literally a flying camera that you can control via AI, not just via a controller. So you could basically just tag yourself or tag somebody else, and it'll it'll take care of the flight and make it nice and smooth. And that thing, gosh, I wish I would have I remember the exact name, but but it's it's if you go to DJI, I'm sure it's the it's the smallest one they got, and it's the version two of it. And I think it's only 500 bucks.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:34

So the most hilarious story of the week.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:39

Quiet, Piggy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:42

Yeah. So that way, you know what that was about, right?

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:46

Uh no, but just the way the news media went on. They're going crazy.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:51

It's like you know.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:52

First of all, I think there was a journalist called Peggy. That's exactly what it was.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:55

It was literally a journalist named Peggy.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:58

Right, but the fact that he they went off, he called someone Peggy.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:04

You know, but I wish he had so and just off journalists pretty regularly, though. Right.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:10

He really does. Right. Like, where are you from? Oh, you're the worst. You're the worst. I wish you guys wouldn't even have uh be invited here. You're horrible. Don't ask me any more questions. I mean, he'll say shit like that, which is hilarious. But yeah, this was this was apparently a journalist named Peggy that everybody was aghast at hearing Trump say piggy, which I don't think he was even intending for it to be a sound thing, you know, where you're like trying to mispronounce a word on purpose. I think he just said Peggy, but everybody heard Piggy because of his New York accent.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:45

Well, and the background noise.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:46

Oh, yeah, yeah. And and there, wait, so the whole thing is happening on an airplane, which is why he said quiet, because you got noise in general, unless you're wearing Bose headphones, and so you're dealing with all the ambience sound, and then the reporter talking when he's trying to hear what somebody else is asking him. And so he says, Quiet, Peggy. And then and it gets reported as Trump calls reporter a pig.

SPEAKER_02: 1:05:16

I thought it was a funny story. So, yeah, I thought it was hilarious.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:27

So we haven't talked really about the aurora and the solar storm that we're in and people freaking out about it, which I don't think anybody should be freaking out about it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:39

But I've seen photos, but every every night that I went out to look, I couldn't see shit either too far south. Too far south. Yeah, I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:47

I'm right at the edge. But it was also kind of cloudy. It's just a pink glow in the night sky for me.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:53

But I've seen it in Minnesota once, and it was green, and it was really cool.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:59

I've seen it in Idaho where it was green and blue and a whole bunch of different colors. But it's interesting that people are just like, oh, this is this is so crazy. Well, this has happened before. Calm down. Yeah, it's okay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:13

I don't I don't ever remember it happening in Texas. Has it? Ever?

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:19

Well, it's happened, it's happened like 10 times in the last hundred years or something like that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:24

Really? Where you could see the Aurora Borealis in Texas.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:29

Yeah. Hmm. I can ask uh Google real quick.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:35

But have you ever seen it before when you've been in Texas?

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:39

Not in Texas.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:40

Yeah, not in Texas for me either. Yeah. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:47

The number of times. It varies, but it's extremely rare. Yeah. No shit.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:54

Once or twice every 10 years, it says.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:56

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:57

That's that's not that rare. The one that we just had, I guess, is the strongest G5 that we've seen in over 20 years.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:09

G4. It wasn't a G5.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:12

Oh, this is from May. Oh, so we had one even stronger in May, apparently. Right. G5 in May. This is G4.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:19

But it's a slow news week, and so Tim Poole and others are just going off. Yeah. Which by the way, hilarity. You saw that he is now selling pool water, right?

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:29

No. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:31

Why? He's selling his own bottled water brand that he's called Pool Water.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:35

That now that that's just a little too close to what's her face, the porn actress that was selling bath water. What was her name? You know who I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:45

I have no idea what you're talking about. That's Blake, who's the bigger degenerate.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:53

I mean, I'm pretty sure you know who I'm talking about. I have literally no idea who sold bath water.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:04

But anyway, he's doing this to combat to combat death water because of the lawsuits around. Bell Delphine. Their marketing term. No clue who that is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:15

Sold bathwater made$10 million.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:18

I have zero clue who that is, Gene.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:20

Are you kidding me? How do you not know who Bell Delphine is?

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:23

Probably like the most because I watched porn on the internet, not VHS.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:29

Well, she's younger than you, buddy, so you know. Okay. Everybody feel free to Google Belle Delphine.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:37

Yeah, duh.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:39

They're all G-rated images. There's nothing. This is the irony of it. Like, she is not really a porn star. She was a chick who did a lot of sexy and risky. Well, yeah. I mean, duh.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:55

Yeah, why the hell would I know who that is?

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:57

Well, yeah. Suppose you wouldn't follow Twitch streamers, so they fell on top of you.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:02

What was the redhead that uh got broken into and the crypto?

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:07

That's the Houston chick. Yeah, she's another one. She's worthwhile.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:10

I had no idea who that was. Yeah, I had no idea who that was before that broke.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:15

Yeah. But you saw her house though.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:20

How's the Twitch box?

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:22

No. Uh Amaranth is who you're referring to.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:26

I was busy looking at other things there.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:30

I mean, yeah, they've got a good gun collection. They've got all kinds of cool shit there. No, Amaranth, I always thought she looked really cute, but she's and she's you know, she's proportioned the way you like them.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:44

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:45

She's like a 38-22-38. Very curvy chick. Yeah, a lot of these girls just make millions like super easy.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:04

I think we should demand equal pay for Twitch streamers.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:30

I know, right? For guys, yeah. Well, for a long time, you know, the highest paid guy on Twitch was a guy.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:41

PewDiePie. PewDiePie was making about 50 million a year. Down there.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:53

I you know, I know the name PewDiePie. I have never watched it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:57

PewDiePie. It's a stupid ass name like a lot of these guys. But he was uh he's uh like a Swedish dude that played video games. And then ended up So really it should be PewDiePie. Yeah, exactly. And he he was just he liked memes. He had meme review, he was the original meme meme review guy. Like the one that actually started doing them on the internet. And then after he started making serious money, his whole shtick was just doing everything super cheap. Like you know, everyone else is getting these uh fancy sets and camera angles, and he'd be making 50 million a year and using a you know a Logitech webcam.

SPEAKER_04: 1:11:55

So did you see the Democrats' message to the troops?

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:59

No.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:02

A bunch of Democrats went out there and said, you know, it's your patriotic duty to defy illegal orders and what I think.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:09

I didn't realize it's what I was talking about.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:12

Trump has responded saying it's seditious and punishable by death.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:17

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:21

It's well, he didn't say it's punishable by death. I read his tweet. According to tweet.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:28

What did he say? Because the BBC may be getting another loss of it. Of course they are.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:32

No, they're they're both he said nothing at all about death. He he said that that is sedition, and they interpreted sedition, which is a crime that is capable of carrying the death penalty, is equivalent to Trump saying kill all the Democrats.

SPEAKER_02: 1:12:51

But he said no such thing.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:08

She's attractive, what can I say? And she's cashed out, like she's gone. She didn't stay uh stick around too long.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:16

She's flat and pink-haired, and you know things that are colored like that in nature are usually poisonous.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:24

Things that are colored like that in nature. Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:28

Yeah, like her hair, you know, bright colors like that. Uh-huh. Like I think of a poisonous tree frog.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:34

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:34

It's, you know, like bright purple.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:37

Yeah, those are cool. I like I like tree frogs. They're very pretty. Especially the the like the green and yellow ones. They're awesome.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:47

Well, East Texas has plenty non-poisonous ones.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:50

Yeah. Tree frogs.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:52

Yeah. Yeah. We're not like Australia. We don't have as many poisonous things now, though.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:57

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:58

Well, you saw they they s they found the new murder hornet or whatever in Australia that's literally got horns.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:05

No, I haven't seen that. There's a new hornet type. I know the the Japanese giant hornets are wicked cool. They're they're like two inches long. And they, you know, they're like super predators. And if you get stung by one of those things, you are going to the hospital.

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:34

But they're cool.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:35

I I like hornets. Or I guess wasps, not hornets. I don't think I have hornets here. I have wasps. But I've got wasps all over the house.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've you've said this.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:46

I know, which I know. I think they're good for controlling the pest population. Why would you not want them around?

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:51

The only reason we use uh yeah, it's it's called the it's the Lucifer, whatever it is. Hornets? And it has horns on it, yeah. Maxilla Lucifer.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:07

Really? The Lucifer bee. As devil like horns. What did you pronounce it as? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:20

It's I would have to think about how to pronounce it, and I'm not doing that right now. Anyway. Mega chile. Anything else?

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:30

Let me let me see. I know that we've had a few other political related type things. You know, I guess since we do we haven't talked about guns in a while. And I don't have anything new gun-wise, other than obviously I sent you a picture of a gun that I'm currently drooling over that I totally don't need to buy. You saw that, right?

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:53

Oh yeah, the lever action.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:54

The lever action 86 with an integral suppressor.

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:00

Yeah, that's totally tactic tactical out.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:03

It's it's a gun that is completely unnecessary, certainly for me. But man, it's cool looking.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:11

Cool looking. What else do we have?

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:17

There was Oh, Glock. The new Glock Vs already have a switch.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:24

Been switched already. Yep. So that was a bunch of bullshit for nothing. They probably had to write off a bunch of costs.

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:31

Except except it's worse than that because the modification doesn't give you a semi-auto option.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:38

It just makes it full auto all the time. All the time. So you can't push a button. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. It's even worse. That's true. You know, one thing I know I sent to you is that there's a huge growing number of people that are very anti-Trump at this point. I posted some of the exceptions. Well, they it's you know, when you when you post something positive or Trump posts something positive about him, you look at the replies, and probably about 75% of them are you know, Trump lied to us, Trump's a traitor, Trump has betrayed all of us, Trump hates us, it's that kind of thing. And my question is like, you can dislike a politician for sure. There have been plenty of times where I've disliked somebody after they seemed like they were pretty good initially. But what the hell is making people feel like it's the politician that that isn't doing what they voted for. He's doing what he said he's gonna do. What they wanted him to do and voted for him doesn't necessarily correspond with what he wanted to do, and that's that seems to be a big disconnect. Like people are saying, hey, we voted to I don't know, you take your pick to get rid of the Jews. We voted for that, why isn't he doing that? You know, it's like okay, dude, if that's the main reason you voted for Trump versus somebody else, great.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:27

What the hell makes you think he's actually gonna do that? You know. Now there's certain certain things he ran on, which he may not be doing.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:42

What'd you say?

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:45

Stupidity, a low IQ.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:46

Yeah, low IQ. I mean, I get tired of telling people they have a low IQ. That that's my default message that's auto-prepped every time I'm on an X. But it's funny, the low IQ people don't seem to take it as a an observation, they take it as an insult.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:04

I was like, dude, I'm not insulting you, I'm just observing.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:10

But it it seems to be pretty prevalent. So there's a whole bunch of people that think Trump betrayed them. Marjorie Taylor Green's a perfect example of that. A low IQ person, that is. Who is in a very interesting position because on the one hand, she just don't like her outing your Jewish space lasers. Yes, my well, that's where it all started, you know. She was she was the original one that leaked it to Alex. But she is clearly very unhappy with Trump calling her out. But also she's very cautious.

SPEAKER_04: 1:19:54

He's endorsing uh someone to primary her.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:58

Pretty much anyone, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And I think she's gonna be with Massey. I think she's gonna be out of there. Yeah, same thing with Massey.

SPEAKER_04: 1:20:05

Massey certainly is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:07

Yeah, yeah. I don't don't think that's gonna stand. And then who's the the there's a third guy too? Oh, the what's the same? Rand Paul. Who I I don't think he's gonna go anywhere. I think he's been there long enough that people that vote for him don't expect him to ever vote yes on anything. But Trump has been complaining about how he's like the perpetual no vote on anything, and quite often when it's a close vote, he's the reason Democrats get their way. But he's also been doing that for a long time, and he's been doing that. I mean, he wants no on everything, not just for Republican shit, but also for Democrat shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:54

So but yeah, I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:58

I I think we're definitely going to see a loss of the House and probably the Senate, although I'm not sure exactly on the Senate in the midterms. And I'm not sure the Republicans can do anything about this point because there's too much infighting, there's not a unified base, and there's there's people on both sides that will stay home if they don't think that their side is leading the Republican charge.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:33

So it's kinda it's kind of Democrats to lose at this point, is what I would say. What do you think? Hello, Ben. Did we lose Ben? We may have lost Ben.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:58

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:58

Well, I was on a tirade, I guess.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:03

I guess we'll see if we can get Ben back. His connectivity's been shit. He keeps saying he's got good connectivity, but ultimately in the end. I don't think he does, because these happens every other episode at this point. Uh let's see. What else we talk about that I can bring up while we're waiting for Ben, rather than just wrapping up immediately. Let's see. Oh, I heard something.

SPEAKER_02: 1:22:31

Are you back, Ben? Well yeah, there he is. Hello. Let's see, Ben, are you back?

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:46

Are you back? I am back. Okay. So I'm back. Something's still disgusting.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:52

So I don't know what just happened there. Clean feed. Like it said lost connection to the website, hit refresh, and it failed to connect to the web page, even though all my other websites, everything else was working fine. Had to hit refresh a few times before it connected.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:08

Well, maybe we won't use this anymore.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:11

Are we recording?

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:12

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't pause it though.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:15

I mean, we have seen some issues with like Cloudflare and stuff like that. So I'm you know, I don't know. But my I'm I've got my wall uh my firewall up here looking at it, looking at its ping times. I've got a ping going to 8.8.8 on my stream deck, and I've got task manager open watching for processes looking at sudden network spikes, and my network utilization never got over 2%. So not my machine, not my internet.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:49

Probably on your end. Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:52

I just the only other thing I can think of is if maybe this has some sort of not great support for Firefox, and next time I try it in Chrome or Edge or something. Which I hate Firefox.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:09

No, that's that's an operating system.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:12

It's the best browser in the world.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:14

Oh, that's right. They used to make a browser, I vaguely recall that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:18

For anyone who uses, like me, literally hundreds of tabs on a regular basis, it's the only one that's capable. Like currently, between two windows or between three windows, because I've got clean feed running in its own window with its own process, but between three windows, I literally have 182 tabs open.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:42

And you're proud of this?

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:44

Yeah. What do you mean? It's how I do research, how I handle things.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:51

Okay.

unknown: 1:24:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:53

So anyway, yeah, you're a lame ass browser may be at fault. But I don't know, man. I think it's less likely. I think that they would support a browser even if it's only used by you. It's probably some kind of network abnormality somewhere between you and the server.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:10

Yeah, but I don't think it's my LAN because again No, I don't think it's your LAN either.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:14

I just think it's like look, here's the thing that here's the other thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:17

I use Unify access points, and I'm watching the Unify Access Points, and what the access point says my connection is. Yeah, I'm watching what Windows says my connection is. It's not a near house, is my point.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:28

I I just here's the element you're you're forgetting about. You live in the small city.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:34

Yeah, with actually really good connectivity.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:38

Apparently, not so good.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:40

I mean, we have a major university here and data centers here and are on some major fiber backbones, but okay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:49

Well, apparently all that all that shit takes priority ahead of your traffic, apparently.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:54

Right. Well, I mean, I've got two WAN connections.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:58

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:58

So my main fiber connection is running at a about eight millisecond ping time. The recent uh recent is 1.6 milliseconds. My secondary WAN connections at 11.7 uh milliseconds, 1.2 milliseconds. Zero loss on both connections right now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:26:19

So that's fine. I don't think it's in your house, dude.

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:24

I don't I don't think that's where the disconnect is happening, but yeah, there is an update available for my version of PF Sense that I need to install.

SPEAKER_00: 1:26:33

What else? Is there anything from the previous week after our last show that we're forgetting about?

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:41

I spent seven and a half hours today in a leadership meeting that is normally off-site and it was virtual, and it was just like, shoot me now. And then beyond that, I had to get out a funding memo for a project for next year and some budgetary pricing for another client. So I have not had much of a chance to recap. I will say that in sports ball, my Aggies are gonna go 11 and oh.

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:12

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_04: 1:27:13

Were they playing Samford, who is one in like one in ten. Like that it's a powder puff game. It's an it's our last out of conference game. What kind of score do you get? 50 something. And the second round, you know, the second and third string players are gonna get lots of playing time. And I will say though, we're prepping for Austin because if we go in, if we go into UT and we beat UT, A, we're undefeated. B, we're definitely going to the SEC championship. And C, even if we lose in the SEC championship, we're gonna be one of the top four teams in the nation and have a buy for the national the playoffs. Yeah. I I I I did have come up with an idea, and I'm I already asked my dad to see if he'll do this. So AM hasn't gone, hasn't won a national championship since 1939. They've contended for them since, but not won one.

SPEAKER_03: 1:28:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 1:28:16

So no matter what, it's mathematically impossible for AM not to be in the college football playoffs right now. So we'll find out in December what the final ranking is and who's playing where. But as soon as we know that, I want to look at tickets for the first playoff game AM's gonna be in, and maybe him and I go on a road trip and go to a game.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:43

Have you has it been a while since you've got into one?

SPEAKER_04: 1:28:46

Yeah, it's been a couple years since I've been to an AM game in person. And, you know, I would love me and my dad be able to go and watch him play in the national playoff game.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:00

Yeah, well, and like I said, I I you know I don't have a team that I care about, so I'm happy rooting for yours.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:08

Much appreciated.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:11

Though, as I mentioned on the last show, I'm not buying a ticket for Austin.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:16

No, it's it's ridiculous. Yeah, that's part of that though is the Aggies driving up the cost because we feel like we're gonna go in there and you know take over the stadium. Very possibly. Yeah, like serious, dude. If we play like we played against LSU, and quite frankly, even if we play like we played against South Carolina in the second half, we will we have the potential of hanging 50 on Texas.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:48

Well, we'll see what happens. I mean, that's could be an upset too, you never know.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:54

Oh, it's it's well, current out of the current scheduled games, it's definitely the most dangerous. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:01

Yep. And it is it broadcast anywhere, or is it just something you gotta pirate?

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:07

Oh no. All all of AM's games have been televised this year, including this Powder Puff team in Samford we're about to play. It's gonna be televised.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:18

So like on a regular TV channel or ESPN?

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:21

Yeah, uh uh, it'll be on ESPN.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:23

Okay. Yep. Okay, cool. Yeah, well, you text me and remind me, I'll tune in.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:31

Oh, well, this game isn't gonna be a fun game to watch. It's just gonna be a basketball score game.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:37

Texas. Now, Texas, that'll be a game to watch.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:39

Yeah, that's why I mean the Texas one. Uh I'll watch that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:43

We'll we'll be at the same spot.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:46

Oh, that's a good. Point. Yeah, that's true. So I guess we'll both watch it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:53

Yeah, it's a Friday game. It's a Black Friday game. Alright, man.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:59

That's all right. Alright, let's wrap her up. And then so next week is Thanksgiving. So we may do a later in the week recording.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:12

Sure, we can do Saturday night.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:14

Or something. So I don't think it'll be just a skip week, but it'll probably be a delay on when the episode comes out week, just to let people that are outside the US know it's a holiday here. Kind of holiday week. Thanksgiving week is usually something that a lot of people just take the whole week off.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:33

I certainly am. My happy ass is in fact I moved a dental appointment out so that I can leave like Sunday to go early and go sit my happy ass in a deer stand for a week.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:46

Nice. That that sounds like a fun place to be. And especially with given the weather.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:52

Well, and you know, I'll I'll say this if for people who have never deer hunted, I'm I'm not a big deer hunter. I grew up bird hunting and stuff like that, but there's nothing like getting to the deer stand at like 4 35 in the morning and waiting and letting the forest come awake around you. Yeah. Just sitting there quiet and still and in a blind so nothing can see you. And all of a sudden, as soon as that daylight starts coming, the birds start chirping, the squirrels are barking and moving around, you hear stuff rustling and getting up and moving around, and and it's brilliant. It is one of the most cathartic. Hear the neighbor driving out to his experience. Yeah, fuck that. I the where I hunt, I don't there's no one else.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:38

I gotta tell you, one time, it's back in Minnesota, I actually drove out to my to my stand in my car. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:32:49

I I park way away and I walk in.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:52

Yeah, well, that's a better way to do it. I mean, I was just so I you're being lazy. I was being super lazy. That was back when I I brought the wrong gun with me. I brought my sniper rifle, which was very heavy and long barreled, and it it would like it was the wrong gun. And after walking with it for about Well, I walked with it when I was walking around the property, just getting a getting a lay of the land there for a while. And I realized this thing is too damn heavy, and I can just drive out to the stand, so I ended up doing that. Didn't get a single deer that year. But my buddy that I was there with it was even better. He had a deer that walked up to about maybe ten yards from his stand. He was sleeping. Oh man. So me and another buddy of his, we could all see each other's stands. We saw this deer walking towards them, like, oh, any minute now, he's gonna get he's gonna get perfect shot. Perfect shot. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, what's he doing? What's he doing? What's what the hell's going on? And a deer walks off, and we're like, shit, dude, we would have shot it if we thought he wasn't gonna get it, but it walked, you know, past his stand into the neighbor's yard.

unknown: 1:34:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:34:15

And later we're like, dude, what the fuck? What? You something wrong with the animal? What was the problem? He's like, What do you mean? The deer that walked right up to you. Yeah, I guess I fell asleep.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:29

Dumbass.

SPEAKER_04: 1:34:30

So I I I had an opposite experience a few years back, and I may have told this story on the podcast, but I was hunting the pipeline at some river property that we have out on the Sabine. And this pipeline, the stands at one end of it, and it's like six, seven hundred yards before it takes a jog. So you've got a long way that you can shoot as deer cross it. And about 50 yards out from me, I've got a spot baited up. Well, I'm sitting there and hear these hogs come in, and they are oblivious to me being there, and they walk within 10, 15 feet of me, and they don't even know I'm there. And I'm like, God damn it, because deer won't come to feed if hogs are there. So I'm start making some noise, trying to scare them off, and they're not going anywhere, they're not going anywhere. I'm fine, like, you know what? Screw it. So I take my 300 Remington Ultramag, and I've got three rounds in it, and I go bam and drop about a 50-pound hog. And I just sit there for a while.

SPEAKER_00: 1:35:34

That's a really kill for a 50-pound hog.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:36

My my day's over. Oh, way, but a headshot, so you know, a lot of good meat. So a few set a few minutes later, these does this group of three does runs out and they stop right in the middle of the pipeline, and the big doe broadsides herself to me, and I go, okay, bam, drop her, rack another one. And then I'm expecting them to run off, but the other big doe turned and was broadside to me. So I go, bam, dropped her. I'm out of ammo out of on my 300. So I set it down, and this yearling is still standing there, just confused as all hell. And I start walking up, and I'm getting within 30 yards of this, and I've got my 40 cal on my hip. And I'm going, please run off. Please run off. I've got enough to clean. And he finally ran off. And my dad's hitting me up on the cell phone. What's going on? What's going on? Uh just teasing, we've got work to do. Yeah. He shows up and he's like, What the hell? A bloodbath. So we had to clean two deer and a hog that day.

SPEAKER_00: 1:36:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_04: 1:36:51

Uh oh. I have never butchered the big thing. Just the way the sound echoes, they they they couldn't figure out what was going on.

SPEAKER_00: 1:36:57

Yeah, yeah. I've done deer, I've never done the hog.

SPEAKER_04: 1:37:00

So you definitely want to get a smaller one. I've killed a big sow, like a multi-hundred pound sow, and the sows are fine, but if you get a bore that's over 50 pounds, leave it. Yeah. But no, you can take so I make hog pan sausage. That's that's all I use them for, right? I don't do pork chops, I don't do anything like that. I just grind all the meat and I mix it with no, not on this. They're too lean. So what I do is I mix it, the wild hog meat with ends and pieces leftover bacon, you know, as the fat, and then I put in chives, jalapenos, seasonings, stuff like that. And like if I'm making burgers, I'll take a pound of the the pan sausage and a pound of ground beef, mix it together, and it makes a great burger. Or if you just want to make a hash or something, it's really good and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:37:54

But sausage needs to be fattier than the pork loin.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:00

Yeah, but that's why I said that's why I add the bacon ends and pieces into the grinder. So I'm grinding in fat. I'm adding fat to it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:08

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:08

You can't add fat to a pork chop.

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:10

I I like schnitzel. Let's beat the hell out of that pork chop and just uh or uh whatchamacallit? Not a pork chop, a uh pork loin loin, yeah. Get it to be about an eighth of an inch thick, and then coated and then fried up. Oh, so good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:33

Well, all I can tell you is wild hog meat can be very, very good. It's very tasty.

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:40

I've had it. I've just never butchered one.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:44

Oh, they're easy. I think I've told this story on here before, but I'll say it again. I was hunting and I got a hog when we were living in Franklin, and we had a gazebo. We were in a little subdivision, and we had a gazebo in the front yard. And I I went to the backyard, but it was getting dark, and I couldn't get a rope over a tree limb to haul this hog up so I could clean it. So I said, screw it. And I went to the front yard in right on the street in the gazebo, strung it up, and I'm standing out there at night with my truck lights for light, sitting there cleaning the hog in the most redneck shit you've ever seen in a subdivision.

SPEAKER_00: 1:39:21

Were you were you drinking the beer while you're doing it?

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:24

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00: 1:39:26

There you go, Ben. There's an image for everybody.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:30

Me in camo with a boonie cap on, standing out there with this hog strung up, and my wife comes home and she goes, What the hell are you doing? I'm cleaning the hog. What do you mean? Well, it's uh by the way, just so you know, the the remnants of the car of the carcass after you're done cleaning an animal in Texas is considered household trash.

SPEAKER_00: 1:39:56

Oh, you don't need to dispose of it in a special way, huh? Nope. That's good.

SPEAKER_04: 1:40:00

Just make sure your trash pickup is within a day or so.

SPEAKER_00: 1:40:03

I mean, my otherwise it's really not good. My trash bin is so stinky anyway. Because I occasionally have to dispose of whole rabbits in there. Mm-hmm. Like not, you know, with the not cleaned with all the shit still inside of them and everything. And uh a couple days in Texas heat, and boy oh boy, does that stink?

SPEAKER_04: 1:40:27

Yeah. Pro tip put it in a trash bag, set it in the freezer for something small like that, and wait until the day before your trash goes out.

SPEAKER_00: 1:40:38

Well, fair enough. But I mean, you know, the freezer's full of frozen rabbits. I don't need to put a a frozen or a refreeze one that hasn't been eaten. But yeah, the point is so it doesn't stink up your so you don't stink it up. Yeah, that's a it's a good point. We'll also put some bleach in there, that'll take care of it. Little bit of something. Alright, let's wrap up and we will catch you all in a little over a week.