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151 Upgrades, Jet Lag, And The Politics Of Power

Gene and Ben Season 2026 Episode 151

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A coral-blue sunrise in Guam sets the stage for a sweeping conversation that starts in seat 34B and ends at the fault lines of politics, privacy, and power. We trade hard-won travel lessons from a packed Dreamliner and a bumpy hop across the Pacific—why Polaris pods can be worth the points, how to survive a seven-hour squeeze without losing your shoulders, and the simple jet lag rituals that make a 16-hour time swing livable. A whirlwind Honolulu layover—Diamond Head, the Mighty Mo, and 11 miles on foot—reminds us why we put up with the grind.

Then the view zooms out. We dig into the Texas primaries and the Brandon Herrera challenge, the growing impatience with party-line incumbents, and a broader cultural recoil from performative policy. From Olympic controversies to city-funded signals, we ask what representation really looks like when institutions lean into ideology. The conversation sharpens around privacy and law: attorney-client privilege is thinner than most think, email is a discovery trap, and “helpful” call transcripts can become exhibits. The practical playbook lands hard—encrypted messaging with auto-deletion before litigation holds, voice over text where possible, and ruthless discipline about what gets written at all.

Markets and geopolitics push in with equal urgency. Rumors of China trimming U.S. Treasuries lead to a sober explainer on bond selloffs, yields, and how perception can raise America’s borrowing costs. We weigh rare mineral and Bitcoin dips against a potential Fed chair pick and ask what “personnel is policy” means for your savings. And we take on election integrity from a systems mind-set: closed-source, foreign-made machines erode trust before any allegation does. Our proposal is clean and firm—separate federal ballots, federal-owned machines, in-person ID verification for federal races—while leaving states to run local contests as they see fit.

What starts as a travelogue ends as a blueprint for stability: master the small levers, demand clarity from the big ones, and don’t outsource trust to black boxes. If you found this conversation useful, follow the show, share it with a friend who obsesses over seat maps and policy maps alike, and leave a rating with the one insight you’ll use on your next trip—or your next vote.

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SPEAKER_00:

Well, howdy, Ben. How are you today? I'm doing well, Gene. Howdy from 5 a.m. in the future.

SPEAKER_02:

5 a.m. and the the next day. That's crazy talk. You're on the opposite side of the timeline there.

SPEAKER_00:

I am. And it is gorgeous here, man. I gotta tell you, Guam is beautiful.

SPEAKER_02:

Must suck to be working from paradise.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, when you're busy and can't really enjoy it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So well, I was referring more to people that are working there and living there than you as a temporary visitor. But yeah, it's um it's funny how you know some people actually get to work and live in a place like that for work.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, there are a lot of US expats here, you know. They're not really expats because it's still the United States, but a lot of mainlanders here. Uh you know, and it it's really interesting how Guam and Hawaii.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, you know, Guam, that's stolen land, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, well, anyway. Guam and Hawaii are both such a cultural mix.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

They're both real big cultural hodgepodges, which is cool.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, last time I was in Hawaii, I noticed that it's about 50% Asians. Yeah, exactly. Which I think has been their long-term plan to take it back. Guam is even more so. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, Guam genuinely was Asian. Yeah, yeah. And Guam, you know, it's kind of the Asian's poor man's Hawaii, right? It's very much a resort town.

SPEAKER_02:

It is. Interesting. Well, as I mentioned previously, I I know nothing about it. I've never been there, I've never even looked into going there. So it's fascinating hearing what you have to say about uh that part of the world. Um, what's the closest, closest like big city to you? Uh I'm Honolulu. Is it still? Oh, really? It's not it's not yeah, I was gonna say, isn't it closer to like Australia or Indonesia or something? It's closer to Japan.

SPEAKER_00:

It's still north of the equator. It's like uh 10 miles. Oh, it is. I thought it was south. I thought it was a little bit more. Um and I I believe I'll have to look, but I'm pretty sure it is. But anyway, no, it's you're out in the middle of the Pacific. Like there is nothing around you.

SPEAKER_02:

Is it a volcanic island or what kind of island is it?

SPEAKER_00:

I you're asking me something I don't know. I think it's much more of a just a like a no, no, no, it's more like a coral atoll. Oh, it is. Okay. Yeah, it's way flatter. It's not like you know, it's not like Hawaii.

SPEAKER_02:

It's not like Hawaii.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, no, that's cool. Yeah, Guam is 900 miles north of the equator.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, okay. For some reason I kept thinking it was in the South Pacific. Yeah, I guess it's just south of Japan. So we were attacking Japan moving north from Guam.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, it's still a four-hour flight to Japan, you know. It's not short.

SPEAKER_02:

But it's still short enough that a World War II plane could make it there and back.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. You know, my flight, so I I want to talk about my flights for a second.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, let's start there.

SPEAKER_00:

Houston to Hawaii sucked. I was on a 77 Dreamliner, and it was in a domestic configuration, meaning it didn't even have Polaris up front, it just had regular first-class seats. And in the back, there was no premium economy, and these were the narrowest mother seats I have set in in I don't know how long on a plane. Wow, yeah, they were horrible. And anyway, and it's a seven and a half hour flight. Yeah, yeah. Like, ah, dude. I will say the food, even in economy, because I got there was no upgrade, there was no nothing available to be able to sucks.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I had to make that flight. But the food, even in economy, was actually really good. Like they give us this choice of blueberry, coconut pancakes, or eggs and some sort of sausage over rice, and the eggs and sausage over rice, which is what I had, was genuinely tasty. It was good. I was surprised. I've actually been really surprised and impressed with the food on United both legs. So the flight out to here, so I went and I stayed in Hawaii for a little over a day. And yeah, that that was fun. I I walked a ton. I bet. I I I walked right at 11 and a half miles. So Friday. It was like 20 some. Anyway, yeah, yeah. I climbed I climbed up Diamond Head, did that little hike, which isn't that long or hard, but it's just real steep. And after that, I just went all around Pearl and got to see the mighty mo and went up and down it. And that was that was, you know, like my buddy who lives there said, Congratulations, now you're a tourist.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly. Well, that's great. That ship is one of my favorite ships in World of Warships.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, we ought to bring it back.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm. That's a cool ship. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Bring back the battleships. But anyway, the flight out here, I was in Polaris. It was supposed to be a seven-hour flight out here, but because we had to navigate around turbulence, that was pretty bad, we ended up over eight and a half. So oh wow. Damn. Yeah. And but anyway, fun fact everybody goes through customs, even when you're flying from U.S. territory in Guam. Really?

SPEAKER_01:

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep. You gotta do the whole customs.

SPEAKER_02:

Um but it's at least the U.S. citizen line.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, it's just all in one line, but it we were like one of the only planes arriving at that time. This isn't exactly a huge, busy airport, dude. Okay. How big is the airport? Is it like you know, bigger than 160,000 people would normally have?

SPEAKER_02:

Really? Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. I I would put it like at uh similar to like Oklahoma City's airport, where like Oklahoma City and the Air Force base are kind of conjoined, you know, and it's bigger than it really should be, that sort of thing. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02:

That's cool. Yeah, so shitty flight to Hawaii, good flight out of Hawaii. Correct.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, the Polaris cabin. I this is the first time I've actually flown Polaris on United. Normally on other international or long distance trips, I've been other airlines. No, it it it it yeah, I mean, quite frankly, it was up there with uh Emirates as far as like seat quality and stuff like that. The headphones sucked, but you know, hey.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Well, didn't you just use your own?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh no, I didn't because they didn't have Bluetooth and I didn't bring the damn cable to plug in.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_01:

Looked comfortable from the photo you sent. Yeah, it was good.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I don't think when the last time I flew on the United first was boy, I want to say it was definitely before I moved to Austin. So it was probably 17, 18 years ago. And uh I had a flight from New York to Seattle that was in uh basically international business, or I think it was domestic first, but it was the front to back seating with the full layback seats. And it's it looked a little different than the one that you sent, but it is the exact same concept.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, the the new pod style, like the the one I sent you, that's pretty common and standard now for any international first or business. And you know, first and business really don't change much on international flights, it's just like what where you're at and what additional amenities you get.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and uh back when I was flying on Northwest Airlines, which is now part of Delta, they had a fleet of 747s for international, and I loved getting the seats upstairs, which is business because there's so few people up there. And because of the angle of the portion of the tube you're in, you have about two feet between you and the window. But there's no seat, so it's it's a two by two seating in business class up there, and you're above actual first class, which is you know, an even larger size seating. But I loved sitting upstairs, it was the most room of any business class seats.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so you you saw the little shelf and everything that I had. So that these are staggered seats, so on the window side it's uh one row staggered, so there's staggered overlap, and then in the middle, in the and this is on the 777, and in the middle it's just two seats, you know, with a divide privacy divider and stuff. So you've got plenty of room, whereas in economy, like economy plus, it's two on the sides and then four in the middle, and then in the basic economy, if you will, it's three on the sides and four in the middle. So you can no way, really. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

They're squeezing them crazy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, like the it it like my I'm too broad-shouldered to fit in a standard economy seat of that configuration. Yeah, yeah, that's uh crazy. Like I remember my seriously, if you can't afford business or something like that on a that long of a flight, like if I was just paying for it and I was going out here for shits and giggles, and I couldn't afford Economy Plus or any of that. I would buy an extra seat.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

I would buy the middle seat just so that no one was sitting there and I could relax.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I wonder I've never tried to do that. So how does that work? Can you get two seats under one name? Yes, they allow it for fat people. Really? Well, I wouldn't know about that, but that's crazy. That's that's fascinating.

SPEAKER_00:

Only because you fly first.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I guess. I mean, I don't need two first-class seats next to each other. No, certainly not.

SPEAKER_00:

But anyway. No, but United's really kind of up their game on the Polaris stuff. I had heard this, but hadn't experienced it. Like had a little, you know, amenities kit and stuff like that in there.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

The this the service of the flight attendants when they could be up because of the turbulence was great.

SPEAKER_02:

So I I my first flight ever on the 747 when I was a kid in the 70s, they still had bars upstairs. So the the upstairs wasn't seating, the the upstairs was a uh one of those twisty staircases leading up to a bar where everybody's sitting there smoking.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh it was a different era. Yeah, I I I think they might be coming back, dude. Like there is a call for Airbus and Boeing to bring back the I watched the video on that.

SPEAKER_02:

That they're saying that the actual airlines have the biggest demand for both the major producers for the their jumbo jets, their A380s and the 747, the latest revisions of them.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, they're still making them, but they're making them in cargo configurations. Right. Yeah. So, you know, it's not just Emirates, but you know, what they want is updated engines, you know, use different engines. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

But yeah, and and it sorry to interrupt you, but the I think one of the key things is if Boeing made a 747 that was composite, so basically same shape, but out of different material, it would lose a lot of mass, it would use the efficient engines, and they could probably carry less fuel with them as a result, that would give it a both a longer range and a cheaper operating cost. Yeah, operating costs, exactly. So there is an argument to be made for updating that, not just from a copy and repeat standpoint, but keep the look, but change the whole plane.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and the reason why is because like this 777 Dreamliner that I was on here to Guam and to Hawaii were both completely full flights. Yeah, that's insane. That's the other thing that's so different from what it used to be. The completely full flight. So if I can get a 747 for that same flight to be at all as fuel efficient or even moderately so, and I can shove in another 50 people, that's what they're wanting to do.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, or or just again, just have more business class seats. Because I know there were there was a wholly owned subsidiary of United called Private Air that had it was all I guess seven what what's the older full width plane, not the triple seven. It was the seven was it the seven sixty-seven? I can't remember, or seven thirty-seven, but it was the the not the single story white body pre-Tri77. And they that whole plane front to back seven six seven was seven six seven, I guess, yeah. That whole plane was set up front to back with business class. Which which I think is the best way to go to Europe because it's cheaper. Well, it it's so when you have a whole plane that is set up as business class, you've got everybody paying more money for that flight. But with fewer people aboard, you're getting much better quality service. And the they're actually bringing in more money because uh you you have, you know, instead of having two four two seating, you've got basically three three seating, or you've got two two two seating. I can't remember which one it was. I think it was two two two. And and so I I think when you do the math, given that the business class is more than twice the price of coach, they end up making more money on those flights. And obviously, people have a better time on them because you got way better than people to fill it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I you know, most large companies at least have a standard policy. I know when I was at British Telecom we had that where if you're flying for more than six hours, it's an automatic business class.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so for my company, which this is frustrating, but the company I'm working for right now, my last company was not this way. But I don't get I I I don't even at the director level, don't get business. It's at the senior director level. So everybody can get anything over seven hours, you can get premium economy, which isn't international. Wow. International terms is a semi-lay flat. You know, which is it's it's it's significantly better than economy, but it is business. So, like the reason why I was in Polaris this time is I used points, I used upgrades.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. You used your own money, basically.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because it it it's worth it to me, right? This was an eight-hour flight, and then and then on the way back from Tokyo to Houston, I did the same thing because that's a 12-hour flight, you know. Yeah. Screw that. I I want to I want to sleep. And uh, you know, I've managed the time zone difference really actually pretty easily because of that. Because I slept as much as I could on that seven hours here where I lost a day. We landed here at like eight, whatever o'clock at night. I got the rental car, so it was like four a.m. my time, right? In my internal clock. And I got here, got to the hotel, and I went and did my laundry so that I would have clothes for the week because I'd already, you know, played some. And I stayed up till about eleven and went to bed and got up about you know, right now I I messaged you, it was 4 30 a.m. when I messaged you, and you know it's 5 a.m. now, and I'll be up till about 10 tonight and go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02:

So and it's about 1 p.m. here, it's 5 a.m. there. So yeah. It's a 16-hour difference. It's I found that going halfway around the world, like to Australia or or to Japan, is easier than going a quarter way around the world, like to Hawaii or Europe. Like Europe and Hawaii both are like six or seven hours, whatever they are.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02:

And you end up I don't know, that that knocks me out more than doing the halfway around the world trip. When you're just inverting PM and AM, that seems to be easier.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I don't know. I think for me, going west is easier than going east.

SPEAKER_02:

I think that's for everybody too. Because when you go east, your your day is accelerating. So you're still awake and it's already middle of the night there. And you you feel like you got plenty of energy. When you're going west, you just have a long day, even though you're technically in the next day already, but it it feels more like a longer day, not I don't know. But I think that's true for most people. Flying east is harder. So you when are you flying back on like a Friday, or are you gonna have a back to work right away during midweek?

SPEAKER_00:

No, flying back Thursday, and then I'm taking Friday as basically a travel day.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. Because I it it that will probably make you sleep during the day by the time you get back. Makes sense. Cool, dude. Well, it sounds like you got a nice little trip out of this deal.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, very busy meeting with lots, but basically meeting with the entire fucking government of law right now and all their utilities and everything. Oh my goodness, is there a lot to do? Yeah, well that's good. So, you know, we're hoping to get uh like the odds of me being back here in a few months are pretty damn high.

SPEAKER_02:

So okay. All right, well figure out a way to get that upgrade paid for by the company.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No doubt. Oh man, so I've been traveling and I've been busy, busy, busy. Yeah. Uh, but you know, we've had some pretty good stuff going on. So where do you want to start?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's it's been a whole week. Let me flip to our little little tracker thing here for content. So let me see. Let me scroll all the way up, see where we were here.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, so one of the things I want to start with is Herrera and the Texas primaries are coming up.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. So yeah, that that's a very good reminder for especially for people that live in San Antonio and then on the southern district there all the way out to El Paso. Brandon Herrero. I think most people at Her Herara, most people listen to us know who he is. I've been watching him as the AK guy for probably a decade. He's the guy that does the gun meme reviews, he's got a great sense of humor. He's got a gun store. He's very much a Second Amendment kind of You know, he he he would agree with us on most political issues, if not a hundred percent, I would say. Uh so and he's running against a total rhino republican. A guy who runs as a Republican, wins as a Republican, and votes as a Democrat.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, voted for the uh bipartisan gun safety billboard. Yeah. Tony Gonzalez, by the way. And uh, you know, just a jackass.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep, yep. But he is the incumbent, and so you know, he's got big bucks. He's like all incumbents, they they get major donors' support from companies. So it is a little bit of a reach for Brandon to go after him. We certainly wish him the best luck.

SPEAKER_00:

Last time Brandon got outspent like four to one.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and and he lost by like 500 votes. So it was very close last time. So you sent me a reminder, and I just sent off 500 bucks to Brandon. So I I can't vote for him, I don't live there. I thought about actually temporarily moving into that district, but I never actually did it. So, but at the very least, I want to help him financially because it's it would be a huge win to get one of quote unquote our guys to represent Texas. There's a lot of rhinos we need to clear out of Texas, frankly. Texas is notorious for rhinos. And you know, this is one of those races where I think it's very doable. And it would be hilarious watching the all the gun meme reviews from uh a sitting congressman.

SPEAKER_00:

I I I don't know if he'd stop it or not. I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

I think that would be one of the first things that he gets a lawyer on finding out is what can he continue doing.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. But regardless having a good idea.

SPEAKER_02:

Because you know, Ted Cruz does his does a podcast uh on a regular basis. So I think a lot of Congress critters do.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but he also is you know, he certainly couldn't make some of the statements about SIG that he's made, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. Well, but but he would actually be in a position to vote on budgetary considerations that are gonna get spent on SIG. Well, what he's trade-off.

SPEAKER_00:

What he should do is have a call uh you know congressional investigation on it.

SPEAKER_02:

Mm-hmm.

unknown:

Yep.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And it's funny too, because you know, he got known as the AK guy because all the other YouTube channels, or the vast majority of them, were all focusing on the AR platform because that's what most guys have. And his channel was different than why I subbed him so many years ago, is because his focus was very much on AK variants. But lately has the Russian liking AK variants. It has nothing to do with Russian, it's just you know, when everyone's doing the same thing and somebody else is doing something a little different, it's it's nice to watch different types of content. This is back in the day when there was actually more AK type stuff, because the this is probably right after FPS Russian was doing his stuff. FPS Russia.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Because that was like the some people would actually argue not only was that the gun channel, but that was the channel, the channel that made YouTube. Because he was the number one channel for viewership on YouTube overall.

SPEAKER_00:

I watched it so like yeah, you know, everybody in college watched it in my age. Absolutely. All the guys did.

SPEAKER_02:

That's for the I think I think anybody under the age 50 was watching him because it it was just it it's the kind of shit, you know, they they say the only difference in men and boys is the cost of their toys. Well, this was watching somebody where the cost all of a sudden was not an issue. Like, if there was a company that made a gun, he probably tested it. And by test it, I mean with complete disregard for safety. Like the number of times that there were chunks flying by his head when he wasn't wearing helmet or even goggles. He got so insane. Yeah, the guy was well, yes, he was lucky. His business partner was executed, and he's still alive. So, yes, he probably is the luckiest guy out there. It's truly amazing. And he's a wonderful storyteller. He he's the kind of guy I've listened to a bunch of his prison stories. He's the kind of guy that would give the fat electrician a run for his money in terms of storytelling. He just got a way of being very engaging. Like he could probably make a ton of money doing books for kids for whatchamacallit. Audible. Audible, yeah, exactly. Because he's got he's got a way of getting people excited and engaged in what he's talking about. So it's uh good guy. Kyle something, I can't remember his last name. Is the actual guy. Yeah, and I don't know how many people live in that district that we're looking at, but the primary but I'm not even just talking about that district.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm talking about all the districts, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Pay attention to the primary is Tuesday, March 3rd. So, like less than a month away. They're coming coming up very soon. February 27th is the last day to uh do uh vote by mail. Don't encourage vote by mail. Yeah, I would prefer the internet over mail. That's true. No, no. I I there's nothing wrong with doing it on the internet. I don't see a problem with that. Okay. You just have to you just have to ensure that uh people are signing with their unique identifier, that's all. Yeah, I I think that it is very doable. There would be a lot of backlash from the Democrats, obviously, because any technology that would enforce identification of a person, they're against. For this, but they're totally for it in other things, of course. But for for voting, they seem to want the least security possible. So should we just do a quick thing on the Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I didn't even watch it, but sure.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. Well, we're in the same boat. I didn't watch it either.

SPEAKER_00:

It was it was it was early, you know, it was during the work morning, Monday morning here, so yeah, it was during curling at the Olympics, so obviously you know what I'm gonna watch.

SPEAKER_02:

Jesus Christ. Uh but apparently all I know is the Winter Olympics are going on right now, but that's okay. Uh the the all I know is the Patriots lost.

SPEAKER_00:

Embarrassingly so, based off of the score. Mm-hmm. Which will make my boss intolerable for the next little while because he's a Seahawks fan, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Intolerable because they won. Yeah, yeah. Got it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I also, of course, saw the uh the all the tweets like from Trump talking about how bad the mid mid-what do you call it show was the mid uh the halftime show. Halftime, that one, yeah. Exactly. So but I didn't watch it, so I don't know. Now you know the the Olympics are actually happening right now. Why'd you say they're not happening right now? Because I are they?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know this. I haven't seen anything about it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, you clearly don't watch Sluge or curling, the only two important sports out there. I mean, I okay, no, I don't. Yeah. Um in some extent these Olympics are kind of gay because they banned Russia. And so there is no there's no actual competition in most of these sports, like hockey. And so you you got you know a lot more medals this year uh for small countries like Japan. And places that normally would have been shut out, they're actually getting some medals this year because really the biggest competitor for the winter games is is always Russia. And without Russia they're they're spreading the medals a lot more. I remember Norway is actually in the lead right now. Yeah. Uh I think it was the 84 Olympics where Russia boycotted, didn't show up because the US boycotted the 1980 Olympics. But I remember that year in 84, I was working at McDonald's, and McDonald's was doing a medal thing where you know, depending on how good the US team does, you get free things. Like if they get a silver, I think you get a or if they get a bronze, you get a free fries, if they get a silver, you get a free drink, and if they get a gold, you get a free like cheeseburger.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so where where are the Olympics this year then? Italy.

SPEAKER_02:

In Milan.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh. Oh that's not a boondoggle at all.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, uh I mean they have they have mountains, they have hills, so if you're gonna do them in Italy, that's a good place for 'em. Italy could do both. They could do both summer and winter, frankly. But it's usually a huge cost in the country. Nobody ever makes money in the Olympics, so he's a money-losing proposition. But a boon for tourism, obviously. Another interesting note is you may not have heard there's a controversy between one of the American I think he's a he's either a snowboarder or a skier that is all anti-America, like ICE is bad, Trump is a dictator, kind of stuff. Okay. So he's got very political to the point where Trump has basically called him out on True Social, talking about how bad this guy is. Yeah. You know how Trump does. But the point is, people are like, oh, you know, he ought to be able to say anything. He was like, no, dude, he's working. He's working for America right now and representing America in the Olympic Games, okay? I would fire his ass. They're like, well, that's good. He's not working for him, he's just participating. It's like, no, no, do you know do you know how much each athlete that competes? Forget about medals. They do get bonuses for medals, and I'll tell you that in a sec, but guess how much each of these participants in the Olympics this year will make? How much?$200,000. Whoa.$200,000 per person. That's with no medals. And then the bonuses are like it's around$9,000 for a bronze, like$35,000 for a silver, and like$68,000 for gold. So yes, they work super hard. You can't take away all the the amount of training that these people put in. Absolutely the case. However, if you don't like the fucking country, don't compete for that country.

unknown:

Sure.

SPEAKER_00:

You can always go compete for another country.

SPEAKER_02:

You totally could, and it happens on a regular basis. These guys want their cake and to eat it too. They want to take the money, they want to have the notoriety, and they want to bash the country that they're actually competing for at the same time. And I I think that's bullshit.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I I think we're reaching peak woke, you know, I think we're past peak management issue crossover. Well, but what I'm saying is I I I think we're not past peak woke as far as how bombastic the left will be. I think they're going to continue to become more and more bombastic, but I think what we're seeing is the right or the the more conservative faction is rising up and saying this is insanity, no more of this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. It's uh like all my slogans are now resonating more about needing to reopen the uh insane psalms.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and uh on that, so I I got to see a friend of mine in I got to see a friend of mine in Hawaii. He lives there. I mean you you joke about me being a spook, but you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, he works at the NSA. We all know this.

SPEAKER_00:

He doesn't work at the NSA, but he's okay. Let's pretend he doesn't. He he's former Navy SEAL, and he was part of the UAE's nuke program and uh some of the controversial cyber stuff around that, if you remember Dark Horizon and all that. People can Google that. Anyway, he he's a very interesting character. He's he's Hawaiian, his wife is a former Miss Hawaii. Holy shit. Yeah. Not many of those to go around. No, and she yeah, this was my first time meeting his wife and daughter. Um but anyway, like the dude was a race car driver for Ferrari at one point in time.

SPEAKER_02:

So he's an overachiever on a lot of counts. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

And you know, he's got a this is his house and main house in Hawaii, and then he's got a house in Dubai and a house in Tokyo. Like one of those guys. But anyway, he is very, you know, Reconquista. It's time to just fucking take back over Europe. Let's go. And he had not seen the Amelia memes. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, you showed him this.

SPEAKER_00:

So I showed him that song, right? That song that came out so that was so damn good, and he just went all in on it. But yeah, yeah. It was uh it was hilarious because Garrett, I won't say his name, but he this guy is part Hawaiian, part German. And it he was showing me pictures of his dad that was in the SS. Jesus.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So it's it's just an interesting confluence of stuff, but yeah. Uh it was it was uh I but my point is we had two other guys there with us at his house just hanging out. Uh two of them were very Asian, one of them, another one of them was Hawaiian, and you know these are people in like US labor board and pretty high-up people. And one of the guy who was cooking for us owns several restaurants in Hawaii, and they're all of the same opinion that this woke shit has gone too far, and it's just time to stop it at whatever cost.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I it's it's good to see that more people are realizing that after all these years.

SPEAKER_00:

But my point is, even with Garrett, even with the rhetoric and everything from my buddy, no one was offended. Everyone was kind of like, yeah. And you know, this is what what needs to happen. Things need to change. We've can't continue down this road.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I think the key thing here is we need to put penalties in place for people that try to create these sort of speed bumps. The the acceptance of DEI by the government in a lot of ways legitimized it for corporate use. And so we I think are well on our way to getting rid of it from the government, which hopefully makes it easier for corporations to also get rid of it. But the whole thing is just idiotic. Like I'm just looking back when I was in college, you could see the teachers that at that time in the early 90s were already cuckoo and were calling for things that would eventually become DEI, you know, 20 years earlier. And it's it's I had a a a dossier of teachers that were, in my opinion, socialist leading. And by the time I was out of college, the like that folder was amazingly thick.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, in when I was at college, we even had a website that was you know basically rate a prof. And you know, it started out with students saying, hey, this is an easy class, or this is a harder class, or whatever. But before I left college, discussions of professors' political leanings was very big topic on there, like this guy is fucking communist and nuts, you know, shit like that. And then, you know, by the time I my some of my slightly younger friends were getting out, like people were getting doxxed on there for comments that they were making about professors that you know, if you said a professor was communist POS, then other students would figure out who the hell you were and literally go tell the professor and that you might still be in that class, and this is what they're saying, you know, shit like that. Yeah. It doesn't take long for the left to backlash like that. And heaven forbid if you ever do something like that to them.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it it's uh you have to be several steps ahead of them, for sure, because they're the the difference between the right and the left is one of many, of course, but a big difference is the left's ease of leaning into violence. The left has way less guardrails to prevent people from becoming violent. They generally accept the theory that violence is a natural progression of any argument.

SPEAKER_01:

So if you disagree. Yeah. I think violence is a very important thing. What's the last time you saw that you saw violence from the right?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't think we exercise it the way we should, but I would argue that violence is the underlying pin of all civilization.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I that that's obvious. I obviously totally agree with that. But what I mean is the right is more conciliatory, is generally looking for the non-violent solution. The left leans into violence much faster and with more rapidity, yes. Yeah, and and with more stupidity, frankly. The the the right generally will only engage in it as a response to the left and quite often do it fairly strongly, but it's it's extremely rare. Now, do I want just more violent clashes in the streets? I mean, not necessarily, but I would certainly like to see like a Kyle Rittenhouse response happening a few times a year rather than once a decade.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02:

And I I just, you know, things have not gotten bad enough for I think most people to stop being polite. Yeah, I and we've talked about that before, where like, you know, you're gonna be polite until you can't be polite, and then you're just gonna go all out. And I get that. It's the in my mind where that where that boundary layer is between the politeness is still a long way from what the left is doing. Given the the amount of people on the left that are causing absolute havoc in Minneapolis, I'm shocked that nobody in Minneapolis who is conservative has just plowed thirty or forty of these people down with a truck. I'm shocked that hasn't happened.

SPEAKER_00:

I think I think most of the people who are more on the conservative side have l more restraint because they have more to live for. And they don't want to go to jail for the rest of their lives.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, right. Yeah, and that that's true, but again, it's it's a question of what are you willing to put up with to avoid going to jail? And and that's where we haven't crossed over that boundary for the right. And this is also, I think, why I think when we do have a full-on civil war, which is inevitable in my mind, uh, it is going to be that much more bloody because every time the left pushes the envelope, they see very little to no response from the right. And that's why they've been pushing really since even before Riding King, since I'd say the first time that I really saw this happening was during the LA riots. And it really hasn't stopped since. There it's been in like waves where it gets a little calmer and then goes back up and then gets a little calmer and goes back up. But we've seen examples of violent responses from the left every decade of my life. We have never seen a violent response from the right. Ever. And what people are calling a violent response from the right.

SPEAKER_00:

But that was bullshit. That was that was Antifa attacking, and you know, yeah, there were some people stupid people out there saying stupid shit, but they were a hundred FBI agents encouraging people to storm the Capitol.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, these are what it would be pointed to as examples of right-wing violence. Certainly that's what people were charged with, but they're not. They're not anywhere near equivalent to what the left has done with zero consequences. There was a guy recently, I don't know if you I can't remember his name, if you saw the video, that in St. Paul, in front of the capital of Minnesota, there was a sign that basically said something like, you know, ice go away or or get rid of ice. I don't think it said kill ice, but it was something very anti-ice that was made of ice. It was ice sculpture. And so he knocked off, knocked over a bunch of letters that changed that to say something positive about ice. I can't I can't remember what the actual original word was, but basically, if you chop off the middle of the word, it turns into like you know, ice, like a pro-ice message, which was hilarious. It was like a meme in real time, right? So that guy that pushed over a few ice blocks that were pro-anti-ice to change them to pro-ice, uh, he got arrested immediately. And he got charged with a$7,000 uh fine for doing that. I think he did get released from prison after posting bail, but uh that ice sculpture was paid for by the city uh uh of St. Paul, and apparently they paid uh six grand for that ice sculpture. I mean it it's yes, you shouldn't be destroying uh public property like that, and it's obviously public, it's on the capital and it's funded by the city. But at the same time, what the hell is a city spending money on marketing against a federal agency? What the fuck is that? Like the St. Paul still receive federal funds because they sure as fuck shouldn't at this point.

SPEAKER_00:

So that's the that's the thing is federal funds need to be cut off at the state level. Like, don't just punish the city. Say if you have a city in rebellion in your state, you're no longer, you know, hey, you know, get everybody hating that city in that state.

SPEAKER_02:

And while this is happening in Minneapolis, Riding, or not Riding King, the the George Floyd thing was in Minneapolis. Really, it is St. Paul and Ramsey County, which is the county that St. Paul is in, uh, Minneapolis and Hennepin County, it's Ramsey County that is the most liberal in the state. Minneapolis is certainly a liberal city. All the suburbs around Minneapolis are a lot more conservative, and that kind of balances the the county out a little bit more. It still is probably like 55 to 45 in favor of Democrats, but whereas St. Paul, where the state capital is, that county is like 75 to 80 percent Democrat. And it it is, and if you look at the map of counties in St. Paul, you combine those two counties along with the county Duluth's in up north. We've talked about that, it's all the union stuff up there. It's basically three counties that have the biggest population that vote Democrat, and then all the farmers vote Republican. So it's a another example of a state where a few cities effectively screw it for the rest of the people in the state. Well, which California is the same way. If you look at California, if it wasn't for the coastal cities, California would be a Republican state.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I would say Texas is the same way, right? The big cities are the problem. We just have enough rural communities to make up for it.

SPEAKER_02:

You're absolutely right. I think that's the saving grace for Texas, is just there's so many other counties that the the four major cities aren't enough to fuck things over. Because obviously, I probably live in the worst one, Austin. I don't know, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

Dallas is right up there.

SPEAKER_02:

Dallas is pretty bad as well, but I think Dallas has a lot of suburbs. Yeah. And they're not all necessarily voting with Dallas, the city. But you know, Austin is if you look at the land area of Austin, I think it's actually second only to Houston. Because as the city proper, if you don't include any suburbs, because Dallas has most suburbs around it, and obviously combined with Fort Worth, it's it is the big metroplex in the city. Yeah, itself.

SPEAKER_00:

The DFW Metroplex literally goes from uh I would say Denton very solidly all the way down to almost Hillsborough, right? Definitely down the walks.

SPEAKER_02:

And it's wider than it is tall. It's a hundred miles to go in across the entire Metroplex east to west. It is a huge city. And Houston is about 75 miles to go across. It's a another huge city. I mean, they're all huge cities, but but the thing about Austin is that Austin doesn't really have suburbs. Like when they incorporated the city, they created a city that included predominantly non-urban, so it had what his in most places would be suburbs, but it's all part of Austin proper.

SPEAKER_00:

Same thing with Houston. Houston's like 70 by 90 miles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the proper city limits, and then you've got all the suburbs, yeah. And that's the other thing is D Houston, the suburbs don't really get counted the same way DFW does.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm. That's true. Because Houston and Austin, Houston and San Antonio are growing together rapidly. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. They're predicting that the sort of empty patch of farmland between Austin and San Antonio is going to be gone within 20 years. It'll be just one urban sprawl between both these cities. Um, where I think we're, well, we're about an hour away if you drive without traffic. So it's probably what, about 60 miles Austin to uh San Antonio, somewhere around there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, the the sprawl, though, it you know, you've got stuff popping up in between, and it's just growing and growing and growing.

SPEAKER_02:

And when I lived in Dallas, you you could see that heading south towards Austin, or you know, more towards where you're at, as well. Because when I first moved to Dallas, driving down heading south on 35, you got to farmland pretty darn quick. Right now, pretty much all the way down to Waxahatchie, it's all sprawl, it's all like very suburban looking. There's no farmland anymore. And tons and tons of housing developments have been built out there. So all these cities are growing very fast, which is good for business, but it's dangerous politically because a lot of the imports that are coming to live in these places don't have the Texas mentality. They're bringing over their California or East Coast mentalities with them.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I mean we've really got to keep that up on the hey, don't California my Texas, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. But you know, it we always focus on the California people, but there's probably just as many people here that used to live in New York. I I always ask people when they're say that they're fairly new to Austin where they came from. I'll bet you about 40% of them say they came from New York or Boston. And for them, the extra benefit is like California, they were able to sell their 1,200 square foot house and buy a much bigger place in Texas. But like California also, they uh they bring a lot of that kind of like guns are bad type of mentality with them.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, I I've met some people who recently moved to college station area from New York, a guy who has his own little car business, right? And uh really nice guy. Used to own a pizzeria in New York and stuff, and you know, he he would love to have guns and stuff, but he's got a stupid state-level felony gambling charge from New York and that prevents him, right? What I told him is get a cap and ball revolver. Not a firearm, according to the AGS. You can have it mailed to your house. So not the most effective concealed carry, but fuck it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, and that that whole lifetime ban on firearms for felons is that's retarded, man.

SPEAKER_00:

This should not exist, especially for something like that that is a non-violent non-violent, yeah, non-violent offense, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Because it it's it's punishment that does not fit the crime. First of all, I'm not in favor of lifetime punishments in general for anything. I mean, I'm an eye for an eye guy. So if you kill somebody, you gotta die. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, if you commit something so egregious that it deserves life in prison, it really should probably be the death penalty.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. But at the same time, it's like we don't take away your driver's license permanently if you crash into somebody and kill somebody, even though that's literally using your car. So why do we take a gun ability for that same person that used their car to kill somebody? We now won't allow them to ever have a gun. It's asinine. It it's it's clearly law written by people who don't uh understand uh the the use and need for guns. These are people that are just anti-gun from a retical rhetoric standpoint, not from a any kind of a logical argument standpoint.

SPEAKER_01:

Very uh very bad. Alright, well, let's move on. What else we got? We talked about Super Bowl. Let me see here.

SPEAKER_02:

You had something about Trump's uh executive order on the bringing indie car racing to DC?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. So for the 250th anniversary in July, they're gonna do an indie car race in DC.

SPEAKER_02:

I I think it's interesting. Have we I guess I've always seen races in cities as being Formula One. I've never seen them done in indie cars. Is that a thing?

SPEAKER_00:

No, not usually.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, that's good. That's um just missing a huge chunk of stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

No, and that's the thing, is he's basically taking indie, which is basically America's Formula One, right? And uh competing with the Europe a little bit there.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and I I will say that certainly it is fun seeing the crazy speeds of Formula One cars. But there's something to be said for indie cars which were supposed to be production-like, at least. I mean, they're obviously not production vehicles, but they're they're supposed to be based on production vehicles. There is something kind of cool about that. I also like the funny car races.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, what I think is interesting is we saw the spectacular Trump did for the US military, right? Uh he's gonna do the same thing for the country, if not bigger. And I think there's something good and patriotic about that. I really do.

SPEAKER_02:

I think Trump is walking on the air at the fact that he gets to be president for the 250th Jubilee. Like that to him is well, it should be for everybody, for all of us. It should be an exceptionally proud moment, but he's really really happy about the fact that he gets to be president and make these decisions for the 250th anniversary of the country, which by most countries in a pretty short time. What's that? Jubilee.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

So I wouldn't be surprised if, especially if you look at where the economy is and how things are going, and if you look at some of those, have you seen any of the stories about the Fed and the, you know, there have been some pretty mainstream stories about you know the Fed fraud and stuff that we've been talking about for years that the Fed needs to get audited and so on. So I think as Trump tries to sideline the Fed, I could very much see, especially when he gets his pick in there for Fed chair, I could see if we did get a partial audit of the Fed and saw very publicly the fraud that has been committed against the American people. Yeah, I could see Trump going, that debt's canceled, we're gonna do a debt jubilee against the Fed.

SPEAKER_02:

That would be amazing to see.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Like throw off the shackles, right? Can you imagine the bankers would just lose everything, but yeah, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, and there's the the banking cabal really is a cabal. It's not a it's it's not the sort of capitalist, you know, institutions of money borrowing and lending that I think they pretend to be. No, it really is a very small, tight-knit group of people that are exceedingly hard to get into and exceedingly exceedingly monopolistic, and that's the problem. Well, yeah, they they it's a cabal. It's no better word for it that I can think of. Uh cartel. Cartel, there you but I I almost feel like cartel takes away some of the dirty kind of backroom shit off of it. Because a cartel ultimately is just an illegal business operation done in a way that you know evades laws around illegal types of trade. I I kind of feel like they're beyond that. Like they're legal, but they are operating extrajudiciously. I don't know. I maybe I'm not doing a good job describing it, but either way, the banking industry is not just simply the people that are able to loan money and store your money safely. In fact, in Texas, there's some laws that were just passed that are pretty bad that now want to track any personal transactions over$500 between individuals. Do you know this? No. In Texas, this passed. Yeah, you yeah, it it did. Your mom just sent me the info about it.

SPEAKER_00:

When you say passed, did it pass which house and who because they're not even in session right now.

SPEAKER_02:

So in the last session, apparently. Was it signed into law? I don't know. It's uh it sounded like it. Yeah, I think it was actually, because the rest of the stuff in there send me this because I'm I'll send you a link. Yeah, because it's all part of the uh reducing illegal you know, commerce blah blah blah thing. Well, I'll I'll forward that to you.

SPEAKER_00:

This is why I like to do it. She probably has, but like our our chat and then the no reporters group and then everybody else. Like, I am not keeping up with this time difference and all the shit I got going on. Like I wake up and there's just a slew of messages like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

They also passed a crazy thing about drugs where you're no longer to allowed to use pill organizers, which all the old farts like I use that. Darren and I use, yeah. They're saying drugs have to be kept in their prescription containers. And if you ever get pulled over, if they if they're ever checking at the airport and you have a pill, pills in the city.

SPEAKER_00:

That's bullshit because I use that like on this trip. I have that.

SPEAKER_02:

I looked it up. It's it's past, it's a class A misdemeanor now.

SPEAKER_00:

A class A? So that's just below felony.

SPEAKER_02:

It's treated as an illegal possession of controlled substance if the pills are not in their prescribed container. That's bullshit. You can't have loose pills in Texas anymore. And I again I had to look it up because I didn't believe this would have passed. It passed.

SPEAKER_00:

That is uh it was signed into law.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, it's a law. Yep. There's been some crazy laws signed in the last legislative session. For sure.

SPEAKER_00:

This is why we have to get rid of everybody.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, start over. There are there are way too many rhinos because we look at it, it's like, well, it's mostly Republican legislation. Yeah, but you know, there's Republicans and then there's Republicans. That's that's the problem. So and then they're going after my my gal Valentina Gomez, I've posted her videos a bunch. She's the chick running for a Texas house seat that that is very anti-Muslim. Like outspoken, and she's been on a bunch of stuff. And apparently they are trying to get her to not be on the ballot for the the primaries because they found that when she registered in Texas for voting, it has her P.O. box address, not her home address on there. And they're like, oh, that's uh that's illegal. You've you've got a voter fraud violation, so therefore you can't run. Well, man, what yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

How is that voter fraud?

SPEAKER_02:

It's considered voter fraud if you don't provide your actual house address when you register for voting in Texas. That is a it's a misdemeanor, and it it basically disqualifies you from running in the political race in Texas if you do that. Which I mean, it does kind of make sense, but at the same time, I can't imagine this is the first person that made that mistake. But and here's the thing if all her mail goes to a P.O.

SPEAKER_00:

box, your voter record, you know, that that's public record.

SPEAKER_02:

Totally, totally, which is why I think a lot of people would prefer to use a P.O. box.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. And as long as it's in the same fucking zip code and district, what difference does it make?

SPEAKER_02:

So I sent you the link. I'm telling you, look at Texas local politics. There's some shenanigans going on.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no, I will for sure.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm I'm gonna send you links to both of these topics here. More stuff to make sure your watch tells you that you've had a Stressful day. I it's a rare occurrence when my watch in the evening doesn't tell me you've had an overly stressful day today.

SPEAKER_00:

No. Well, all I can tell you, man, is I I've I got my steps in on Friday.

SPEAKER_02:

So yeah, which is great. Which is great. Now, should we talk a little bit about the Epstein files? Sure. So there's a lot of stuff in there. What is it? Three 30,000 pages or something? Or 300,000 pages?

SPEAKER_00:

No, it's three million pages.

SPEAKER_02:

Three million pages. Yeah, yeah. It's whatever it is, it's some insane number of pages, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And includes videos, photos, all sorts of stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. And one of the things you sent me was say some account of George Bush raping a male victim.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm. Because which the rumors about Daddy Bush being into little boys have has been around forever. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

But you know, a lot of what's in the files, just to play devil's advocate here. Is witness depositions and stuff, they could be whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

It's just complaints. And there's a lot of crazy people out there on both sides. And I would say if you looked at the voting records for most of the people putting in complaints, they're going to be very crazy loony democrats. That you you shouldn't certainly discount everything. You should take the complaints. But when people start talking about satanic rituals and child dismemberment and and a lot of not just pedophilia, but like homosexual pedophilia and stuff. You gotta take everything with a grain of scent. Because or salt. Because there's a there is a political motivation that people have to demonize people that they hate. I mean it's true for everybody, but for people that have mental illnesses, i.e. Democrats, it is way more common. So you're gonna have I mean look even look at the people that have sued Trump, right? The allegations are just ridiculous against Trump. And for one of those cases, that chick actually won the lawsuit where all her facts were different than her original account. And because the one that was saying Trump raped her in a uh dressing room. I can't remember her name now, but it was like 30 years ago, and somehow all the facts changed between now and then, including that dress she was wearing wasn't actually made by the designer until like 10 years after this happened. Like all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_00:

I get it, but you know what? We have a lot of information in the files that is really pretty damning, including Bill Gates' story and why Bill Gates got a fucking divorce.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but also not a surprise to anyone. We didn't have the facts, but we all kind of knew Bill Gates is a perv.

SPEAKER_00:

But but m Belinda Melinda went on MPR and basically validated it.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, in a sense, she she didn't really say much if you watched her interview. She just sort of nodded her head and said, It's a really tough time. It's a tough time to remove.

SPEAKER_00:

I had and and I had to leave, and that's all she put it at.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. But it was obvious that she didn't deny anything, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but if that wasn't the case, she would have said, No, that's not true. That didn't happen. It was other things. Like she But not denying it is admission in this case.

SPEAKER_02:

I I agree. But I mean, dude, like which billionaire hasn't gotten divorced because they were fooling around.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but you know, fooling around and getting an S T D and then trying to surreptitiously give your wife the antibiotics to you know, so she doesn't know that's I mean, that's just idiotic, frankly.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. But everyone from Elon Musk was fooling around while he was married to multiple women, frankly, and to well, Trump, yes, absolutely, we know this, and uh and Bezos, same exact thing. It's like if you are a billionaire, you you have zero effort to be fucking hot chicks at any time you want. Like you've already accomplished that thing that gets you that. You don't have to work at all beyond actually just becoming a billionaire. So I I'm not gonna excuse it, but I will also say, what the fuck do you expect? You know, it's like if you're a chick and you're you're gonna be marrying a billionaire, you know deep down the back of your mind that the reason you're marrying him is for the divorce settlement. It's not because you love him.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, the the richest woman in the world, how'd she get there?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. How did every woman get to be a rich woman? Every rich woman got to be a rich woman.

SPEAKER_00:

Every, everyone.

SPEAKER_02:

I will I don't know of a single example of a woman that got rich on her own without a man involved. Zero.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Uh well, if you do, tell me, but I don't. Oprah.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, she's a lesbian, so you know, she got rich because of other women. Fair enough. You you made the counter-argument. Yes. Lesbians can get rich without men.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know that Oprah's a lesbian, but okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, she's totally a lesbian. Are you kidding? I have no idea. That's been a well-known thing for a long time. Yeah, because she's got a best friend and her husband is a total cuck. Okay. Like he does, he's the one that does the cooking for her.

SPEAKER_00:

Is it a cuck if it's a lesbian thing?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it is. Yeah. Because they don't actually have sex. He's her manservant. Essentially. Jesus Christ, Jesus.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh well, it's true.

SPEAKER_00:

Anyway, so what else did we see in the Epstein files that was interesting?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I mean, there's there's things in there that I think are interesting that for me, but that you probably didn't see. Like, for example, we see that Epstein was very virulent anti-Zionist.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh how so.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, well, how so? Because he actually has emails that talk about his dislike of Israel and their government. He has conversations with a lot of Arabs in there. And conversations about making investments and in fact, one of the messages that was found on the emails talks about him trying to do a dump on the Israeli stock exchange to disrupt the market there. Now, a lot of people will will point out to the fact that he was friendly with an ex-prime minister of Israel, man Barack. Which which is who is by Israelis generally disliked and considered to be kind of like the uh the Bill Clinton of uh Israeli politics. He he was himself an anti-Zionist. Uh even though he was an like there are anti-Zionists in Israel too. It's not it's not like if you're in Israel, you have to be a Zionist. That's not a thing either. And he was one of the guys that was influential in trying to uh to do a two-state solution that was not favorable to Israel. There he was definitely on the other side from the Zionists in Israel and from the current prime minister in Israel. So that's the kind of Jews that Epstein was hanging out with. Dershowitz, we find, I think, is in hot water because Dershowitz always said, You're gonna find my name in a whole ton of emails because I was duh his personal lawyer. Obviously, as a lawyer, I'm gonna be communicating with my client all the time. But then we find things in the emails from Dershowitz saying how he's imagining how awesome Epstein's Island is, and things that just sound creepy. Like this is not what a lawyer would be talking about.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, but I think the Dershowitz stuff is clearly him fascinating, you know, being fascinated by it and fantasizing about it. Exactly. And and yeah, that's creepy, and yeah, that's not illegal. And I think true. I think Dershowitz really knew he walked a fine line there and was okay with it. And yeah, it's gonna be creepier than everything else, but I don't think he's gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think he ever planned on those emails ever being released. Because first of all, I agree, you know, they're their lawyer client, which generally is privileged conversation. So it is uh somewhat surprising that they were releasing those and not just blacklining everything in those messages from his lawyers. But it's definitely the attorney client privilege died with him. No, no, well, no, that's I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't think that's the way it works because the lawyer's attorney client privilege is to protect the client, not the attorney.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh yeah, I don't know about that, man. It's I mean, yeah, maybe it's it's it there isn't much of it. As I we talked about before when I experienced this recently myself, that attorney client privilege can get removed very easily in court. Like they they can chisel out every little thing and essentially say if the conversations weren't specifically about this, then we're gonna remove attorney client privilege, which is retarded. I mean, it's like what's the point of talking to your lawyer if what you say to your lawyer could be used against you? It's just silly. It's and uh this is just as a side note on all of this. Much like you like cash for the lack of uh paper trail, I would say if you talk to a lawyer at all for the love of God, don't do it through email. Oh yeah. Email is the most trackable method where everything you say in there can end up in court. Well, and it's gonna have a conversation.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's easily searchable.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly, exactly. So you're gonna do one of two things. One is switch to a medium kind of like signal that has automatic deletion of all messages after a certain period of time. You will have to turn that off once you actually are in a lawsuit because there's a preservation of evidence in in force at that point in time. But up until that point, up until you have to do it, it's a better way to delete all past messages. And the second thing is have more conversations just through a conversation. Like I I wouldn't even say phone calls, I would say signal calls. Do more actual voice conversation and less uh documented conversation through email. And one thing that I found out, and again going through this last lawsuit is is the all your Zoom meetings, anything that they can get as a recording from a company that provides recording services like Zoom, they will just ask for immediately. So if you're gonna have a conversation that may be on a topic that you might possibly end up in a lawsuit over, don't do it through a recordable medium.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, don't uh make sure the recording is off.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, yeah. But I I'm not like I don't trust Zoom enough to say that even if you turn off the recording, if it's odd that they're not still recording. Like they that turning it on and off may simply be do we generate a link for you to download it later or not? But it may still be recorded internally. Like you'd have to read the fine print in the terms of service to know whether or not they can do that. But I would start at the assumption that they're gonna record everything. Sure. And then only if you can prove that they're not recording it, would you do it? There are companies that specifically make products similar to uh Zoom, specifically for lawyers.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. And Proton has a meeting tool, for example, that can't be recorded.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, you're always on top of that. I I'm always like behind the curve on new proton features. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Here's the other thing for people to remember even if the Zoom session isn't being recorded in Zoom, a lot of sales guys, for instance, use these bots that join the call and it is transcribing and recording so that their client doesn't think they're being recorded, but they actually are.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'll tell you, and there's nothing Zoom can do to prevent that because it's joining as a user.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. Exactly. One of my saving graces, because they were asking for transcripts of these exact bot conversations, was I was too cheap to pay for the for the service. And so there was a 30-day until deletion for non-paid accounts. And so they're like, Well, you know, we see that you you generated this transcript, and we want to copy it. It's like, well, I didn't pay for it, therefore it doesn't exist right now. It's it's gone. You know, that was six months ago. It disappeared five months ago because I don't pay for the service. So sorry guys, can't help you. And that like anything that retains a long-term record can and will be used in the lawsuit. It doesn't matter if you're suing somebody or if they're suing you, both sides are gonna ask for as much of the spigot as possible, and then the judge will be limiting how much of that can actually be used in court. But again, just because the judge is gonna limit what's gonna be acceptable for evidence doesn't mean that you you they're not gonna ask you for that information. And in fact, you're gonna end up providing it. So like I had for that case, I had to and and keep in mind, I'm neither getting sued nor am I suing. I'm just like a consulting working with the company. Yeah, I'm a third party. I had to provide my entire copy of my Google inbox, my uh Google account. That is 20 years plus of email messages. So that they can then do a search to narrow that down to relevant information. Well, you better hope that you didn't have anything in your 20-year plus email history that would make you look back for something else. Because the you know, once that copy is made, what you don't think the FBI now has a copy of all my emails?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah. Well, I mean, they already did through Google.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, right, exactly. But you know, it it doesn't have to be Google, you could have had your emails in a local inbox. So either way, they get a court order to get a copy of that made. And then, after that full copy is made, then they're going to sort through it, and essentially lawyers are gonna then decide if messages are relevant or not. Just imagine somebody getting login access into your mail account and then running a bunch of queries for anything they want in there and seeing what kind of results they get. Not a pleasant thought.

SPEAKER_01:

No. Very our legal system is screwed up.

SPEAKER_02:

Very invasive. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_00:

So did you see the reports that came out here this morning for my time? So I don't know if you've seen it yet or not, but about G talking about dropping the US dollar.

SPEAKER_02:

No, didn't see that at all.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so CNN's even got an article on it. So G is talking about having their banks sell off all for all U.S. treasuries. Um now this is China, the Chinese banks own less than two percent of our overall debt. They own about$700 billion worth of U.S. treasuries. So even if they do, that's not a big hit to the US treasury market, right? 2%.

SPEAKER_02:

So tell me this, because I I'm I'm not sure I fully comprehend the downside of a sell-off of U.S. treasuries. Like the U.S. government's already sold those, they've already gotten their money. Their money, yep. What's the downside for us as a country of a somebody who bought that now doing a mass sale?

SPEAKER_00:

It it could it could raise the interest rates because if people are seen to be selling U.S. treasuries and like there's lack of faith in the U.S. government, which is insane compared to the rest of the world. So here in a general bond market, a sell-off is considered a bad thing because it means that that must be a riskier bond. Therefore, you should get a higher interest rate for your investment.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but how does that actually affect the country?

SPEAKER_00:

Because when that country then needs to go borrow more money, they have to spend more to borrow it.

SPEAKER_02:

So basically, what you're doing is you're flooding the market with alternatives to buying new bonds.

SPEAKER_01:

Correct.

SPEAKER_02:

Why buy a US bond from the US government when you can just buy one on the used market?

SPEAKER_00:

Unless you can get a higher interest rate.

SPEAKER_02:

A higher rate. Got it, got it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So therefore protecting your return. Yeah. You know, it it here's the thing. I think China is gonna sell such a low volume that it doesn't really matter. And if you look at all foreign banks, so all foreign banks, what percentage of U.S. debt they own, it's only 25%. Which may sound like a lot, but 25% of our debt is you know, the private market owns the majority of our debt. And the majority of the private market that owns our debt is the US, the US citizens. So we own our own debt, and this is where I really think getting into that jubilee with the Fed, especially, is uh a political possibility.

SPEAKER_01:

Huh. Yeah. So how about European countries?

SPEAKER_02:

Who owns their debt?

SPEAKER_00:

It varies. China has uh actually more investment in European, African, and so on than they have in us. That's part of that belt and road initiative, right? Yeah. So, you know, the I I we'd have to go country by country to see who owns what of the foreign debt. But generally, the US actually has a pretty good investment because as we give them money, we get you know loans and debts back. So all the foreign loans that we've handed out, i.e. Ukraine and so on, that's issued in terms of their national debt.

SPEAKER_02:

So apparently 77% of German debt is owned by foreign investors. So basically investors outside the EU. Yeah. Uh, which is interesting. So that's a huge percentage compared to 25% that we have.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, 25 is banks. Hold on. 25 is nations and banks, other nations and banks. So national banks, things like that. If you look at foreign-owned debt as a whole, including individuals and investors, it's about 47%.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, okay. So it's a little closer, but still less than 77%.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Because that's the thing. Like, US doesn't have a US bank. So does US so US can't really hold anybody else's debt. It's only private banks that can hold, like US banks can hold foreign debt. Correct. But the US government can't hold foreign debt.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, they can in the way of loans. So if the government has issued loans, like we have to Ukraine, for example, that is a holding of foreign debt.

SPEAKER_02:

We'll never see that.

SPEAKER_00:

That's yeah, and the Marshall Plan didn't get repaid either, right? Yeah. Yeah. The Lind Lease deal did not get repaid. So no. We have a habit of forgiving others' debts, but others do not have a habit of forgiving.

SPEAKER_02:

This is insane. Like we should at least have taken. Yeah, the uh so here I'm reading, so around fifty percent of the German foreign-owned debt comes from investors from the United States, United Kingdom, and China being the three most significant countries, but China it's a government-held debt. UK, I don't know, but for in the United States, these are just US institutions that hold the debt. I think I told you at one point I was working in a like a stock brokerage place, and there on the wall of one of the senior partners was a debt certificate to the Russian Empire. And it was for something like I want to say it was like uh two million US dollars or something like that. It was a significant amount. So this is obviously pre-Russian Revolution Russian debt secured from an outside party. My guess is this would have been during the the Russo-Japanese War because they greatly were borrowing during that time. Russia was running out of money fighting Japan. And obviously that never got repaid because of the Russian Revolution. But it's just fascinating seeing these documents from a hundred years ago, and then some.

SPEAKER_00:

So I think China, so Xi is obviously betting because he's betting that countries that want to do business with China will do it in the Rembi. I think that's insane. I think countries that think that like the amount like people complain about the US dollars inflation and the US dollars inflationary stance, it is nothing compared to Rembi and China. Like we have you know 10-20% inflation over a few years, China has 200. So which ship are you going to connect yourself to? The most stable currency in the world for the last almost 100 years has been the US dollar.

SPEAKER_02:

So the inflation in China since 2020 to 26 in the last six years, has it been four percent a year? Bull. I mean, that's in in trading with foreign currencies, that's what it is. Four percent a year average.

SPEAKER_00:

Their monetary policies uh okay.

SPEAKER_02:

That that that is their consumer price inflation was less than one percent.

SPEAKER_00:

Bull shit. If you are taking look at the amount of monetary monetary look at the monetization and easing that they've done, the quantitative easing.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Anyway, uh drink the drink the Chinese Kool- Kool-Aid there, Gene. Oh yeah, and their population is still growing, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh I'm looking at CIA data, dude. I'm not looking at Chinese data. Uh-huh. How do you have access to the CIA data? You can look it's it's open to everybody. CIA source book on Google. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's I I again I think that there's a certainly China has they they will want to do PR and present a much better base than they actually have. And you can look at things like all the dead buildings that they have and all the projects that went nowhere. But in the end, if you look at the value that the Rumbie is trading for and compare it to other currencies, compare it to gold, and compare the US dollar to gold, you're gonna get a number, and that's where this 4% comes from.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, well, you know, I I it's um then they've cracked the code and have printed and manipulated their economy to get the code.

SPEAKER_02:

I think it's easier to do in a dictatorial economy than it is in a free economy.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it's easier to fake and come up with bullshit numbers.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, you because well, but you still gotta get other people to value your currency.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, this is the thing no one's trading in that currency, so no, not really.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, they but they are. I mean, especially with bricks. Well, they really are because India is now buying oil and they're buying other Chinese raw materials.

SPEAKER_00:

But China doesn't produce oil.

SPEAKER_02:

They're reselling Russian oil that India is pretending it's not buying, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that is the biggest international transaction with the Rembi. The my point is most international transactions don't do that. And here's the other thing. US companies, if G does this and says, okay, now you have to buy everything from China in Rembi, the US can say, no, we're not doing that. We're gonna use dollars like we always have. You have to deal with us in dollars. China can't say no to that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I I I would tend to agree, but they can certainly do that with non-US companies.

SPEAKER_00:

Sure. And we can tell our allies you're gonna use dollars. And if you don't use dollars, you're not our allies.

SPEAKER_02:

And Europe just uh published something about how China just signed the largest trade deal with the EU of any EU trade deals.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02:

And I didn't read anything in there about which currency they're gonna use, but China is taking advantage of Europe being pissed off at the US. And that's the thing. This is this is the Chinese strategy. It's always been this. They're playing the long game, they know that presidents come and go. And and so China is uh building things for their long-term future re return. And I I think they certainly got burned by Trump because the Panama Canal, the loans that they made, obviously to whatchamacallit, to Venezuela are never get gonna get repaid at this point. There there's been a number of things where Trump has burned them, which I'm sure they're not happy on, but like they're not stopping the Chinese expansion of trade with other countries. China is the trade federation in Star Wars.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, they that saw that immediately when the movies came out. It's like, oh, that's China. Okay, makes sense. So they're they're gonna keep doing what they're doing, they know where their strengths are, and if they can get rid of the dollar requirement for trade with other large countries like India, that's a win for them. For sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Sure, to an extent, but again, they they own so little of our you know of our bond market. I I'm not really that worried about it. I think that we have you know lots of lots of things coming. I think that we are going to make a move against the Fed. I think we are going to move to the digital dollar, and I think it's gonna be very stable, and I think that we can win on the free market with it, and especially, you know, non-domestically. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, Trump's nominee for new Fed share, Kevin Walsh, is what a lot of people are interpreting as the cause for the drop in commodities in rare minerals market as well as Bitcoin. I don't know anything about this guy. I can't tell you. But that's what I'm reading is that people are interpreting yeah, I don't I don't know, man. But that's what people are saying. The reason that gold, silver, and bitcoin dropped last week. Or was it two weeks ago? Whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

Hit an all-time high.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, was because of the announcement of Kevin Warsh being nominated by Trump for this position. I I've never heard of this guy. I don't know what his background is, what his policies are.

SPEAKER_00:

But I mean, Dow Jones right now is uh over 50,000.

SPEAKER_02:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. That's the highest it's ever fucking been.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And I remember when it just crossed 10,000, we all thought that was crazy high.

SPEAKER_00:

I remember when it crossed 30,000 in the first Trump admin.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So there could be something to this guy. It'd probably be worth it for us to do a little studying of his background and and policies and why Trump picked them. Maybe this'll be the guy that re uh reshapes the Fed into something new.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that that's what the rumors have been. I mean, he was at Morgan Stan Stanley. He was an economic advisor during the Bush administration, so maybe Bushy isn't a great thing in my mind. But he doesn't look that old. No, he's not. So support from various lawmakers, including industry leaders, reflecting a focus on accountability and credibility in the Fed's monetary policy. So I I think we are looking for a different monetary policy out of the Fed, and Trump thinks he's a lot of different things. So this is interesting.

SPEAKER_02:

He he's a lawyer, not an economist. So he's got a JD, not a PhD in economics. So definitely coming from a different direction. But yeah, I I I want to know more about this guy and why he had uh for the people that live in finance, I want to know why they thought just the mere nomination of this guy had moved the markets as much as it did.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, ask Horowitz. Why would he know? Because he's in fine. What what do you mean?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh I don't really trust him.

SPEAKER_00:

I thought they were I thought there was trust among Jews.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I knew you were gonna go there. Yes, yes. I'll I'll talk to him at the next Jew uh Zoom call that we have. Where all the Jews in the country get on Zoom and then everything. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

The amount of complaining that would be happening on that call.

SPEAKER_02:

That's all there would be. It would just be nonstop complaining. You know the old saying is like sciatica. For for you know, it's been flaming up lately. I don't know what's going on with that sciatica. It's not a good nerve. It's a there's a propensity for that nerve to get fucked. I mean, kidding aside, I actually do have sciatica, but you were you mentioned you you brought Amelia to your buddy's knowledge. Are we still seeing more of the Amelia International stuff? Because you were the one tracking that.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my god, yeah. We we have seen a ton. We saw the US one. We saw Irish, we saw Germany, we saw Italy, let's see. There was a couple others. There was a Canadian one. Like we've seen a ton. Oh, by the way, I ran into some people from Alberta in Hawaii. Okay. And I asked them about the referendum and what they think's gonna happen. And they said that they are fucking done with Montreal. And that the sentiment is we'd rather be independent if we can, and if we can't, we'd rather be American. Screw this, we're out.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would love nothing more than to see Minnesota get traded for Alberta. That'd be a win-win.

SPEAKER_00:

Here's the thing: if Alberta goes, Canada is done. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Quebec will be bankrupt because they're not getting their equalization payments, and the the floodgates will be open. It will be over with.

SPEAKER_02:

But but also, this is, I think, the prime reason that Canada's not gonna let them go. Well, they can try. Well, I mean, Lincoln did.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, but you know, here's the thing: the Canadian military would last five minutes against the US military, and we would come in and protect Alberta. Like, we would come in and be like, nope.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, well, you you know, if we protect Alberta, Britain, due to the Commonwealth, would have to protect Canada and fight the US.

SPEAKER_00:

And again, five minutes.

SPEAKER_02:

That's like another win-win situation there, because then we can take the British Isles over. Reconquista, Reconquista, baby. Reconquista. Make that an American base and then start kicking all the illegals out of there.

SPEAKER_00:

And then and then Europe. On to Europe.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah. There you go. The real Imperial P.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know that taking over Europe is worth doing until their bankruptcy. Like, why would we want to take on their debts?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you just dissolve the debts.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, yeah, but you're not gonna do that to your friends. Do we have friends left in this world?

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I'm I'm kinda not joking. I mean, when you see Canada, Great Britain, Germany, everyone Denmark balking at the US.

SPEAKER_02:

Still some military to oppose the US. Yeah, fuck those guys.

SPEAKER_00:

No, they they are literally talking about re-arming to oppose the United States. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

They want to turn NATO into pullback into a they want to turn NATO into an anti-North American organization.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And they want to place NATO troops in Canada to prevent the U.S. aggression.

SPEAKER_00:

And this is where we will dig as hilarious. Well, and this is where, quite frankly, I I have said it over and over again. I think a Russo-American alliance makes the most sense geopolitically, and I do not see why we would not pursue it.

SPEAKER_02:

No, it'd be a great deal for the US to beat up China for the exploration of Russian resources.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. By the way, the sun's just coming up, and dude, isn't it gorgeous? Yeah, like I can from from my uh balcony up here, I can see like every rock in the water down there. Nice. It's that clear and just gorgeous.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, before we forget here, as we're getting close to the end here, you also put in a link to the Dominion vote deletion story.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_02:

So, what do you want to say about that?

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, I I think this is all related to the yoinking. I really do. And for those who haven't caught on, that's my term of endearment for what we did to Maduro. I'm trying to find out.

SPEAKER_02:

You kind of was yoinked, you're right about that. That's true.

SPEAKER_00:

Just go in, yoink 130 of your people dead, zero of ours dead, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So Dominion, Venezuelan Company, I think that there's a lot going on going into Georgia. Everybody's pissed at Georgia because they took the records instead of making copies of the records, which I've spoken to a lawyer friend of mine. They they say, well, that's actually a bad thing because it could hurt the process and da-da-da-da-da. I'm like, or it's so egregious they wanted to make damn sure they had the records and it couldn't be altered and said that you know this was altered. So we will we will ultimately see. But I think them going into Georgia and pulling the records. I think Maduro is if he knows anything, he's gonna sing, sing, sing because that's how he saves himself, right? Of course. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

But the allegation the allegation here is that the only reason that Biden won was because Dominion was in real time changing votes on their machines not accurately reflect the votes that were cast.

SPEAKER_00:

I I would say not necessarily real time, but potentially even in the code. Right. Altering the votes in any way, shape, or form. Any you could even write an algorithm, so forever however many votes, da-da-da-da-da, count this, and that could be in there. And since the software is closed source and not available for audit, you would never know it.

SPEAKER_02:

I I think it's absolute insanity to trust both a closed source system of any kind, but especially one manufactured outside the United States. Yeah. That is crazy. Why would you ever do a contract for voting machines like that? That that's just insanity. I wouldn't want those machines for a freaking community vote, far less a government vote.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and here's the thing. So what I I don't believe in federal control of elections, but I think the Fed the hold on. I think it would be wholly appropriate for the feds to make certain provisions, like, hey, any voting machine has to be US based, has to be bought in the U.S. Cannot be a foreign-owned thing. I think you could even say, hey, IDs and proof of citizenship is required to vote. And that would be in keeping with the Constitution for Garrett because part of the federal government's purview is guaranteeing a Republican form of government. So I don't think that would be overreach. Now, leaving up to the states the time and methods and how they do whatever, I think that that is you know appropriate. But as far as saying, hey, you can't use Dominion voting machines out of Venezuela, you can't, you know, you can't allow non-citizens to vote.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you know in Washington state it is a mandatory vote by mail now? Yeah, which is there's no other way to vote other than by mail. So I I I think what the federal government absolutely should do is say that all federal election results, votes cast have to be done on a machine that the US federal government pays for, maintains for. So we need to have basically two ballots at the next election. One for all the state and other crap positions that people don't care about, and then a separate paper ballot that will be put into a different machine for all the federal offices. Well, for any federal, so that's the way I would do it. I would just basically say we don't give a shit if California wants to have illegals voting for California local elections, whatever, that's your problem. But if for anyone getting a federal ballot, that person has to show a federally recognized ID, and the machine those ballots will be scored on is a federal machine owned by the federal government. State can't be touching it.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and I would even go so far as to tie the I would I would do it differently. I would say not only do you have to show an ID, you have to scan the ID and tie it to the vote. So with like the real ID that's already in place, you have to scan your real ID driver's license. That is then tied to your ballot. I I I would forgo anonymous voting at this point. We have to forgo anonymous voting.

SPEAKER_02:

And I I've always thought of that. Anonymous voting makes sense if you're trying to have an opportunity for people to vote contrary to what the expectations of of whoever is. Like you don't need anonymous voting other than for people that are afraid that their vote a certain way will have consequences. Right? That's the only reason for it. If if you're gonna be arguing back and forth about who you ought to be voting for, like your vote's known already anyway. Everybody knows who I'm gonna vote for. Everybody knows who you're gonna vote for. You know, it's this is like no one's gonna think that you're gonna vote for Pete Buttigieg, you know? It's it's not realistic. So I just I think that I think that we need to bring in a certain level of honesty into at least the federal election. I think they stand on a much better leg saying this is just for federal offices. You can do whatever you want for your. State crap, but for federal offices, we will have real elections. We will have elections that require IDs. We'll have elections that use a machine that is chosen by and owned by, and you can't be touching it, by the federal government. And if that means you give everybody two ballots, one for state and one for federal, so be it. That's fine. But that also would mean that, oh, guess what? States of Washington, we don't care that your local offices you do by mail, your federal elections have to be in person, and if you choose not to set up voting locations, nobody in your state will cast a vote for in the federal elections. Congratulations. Your people just didn't vote. So you're uh you don't have any electors at that point. So if you don't wanna if you don't want to comply with the federal voting policy, then your votes just don't count. That's the way I would do it. And obviously let the lawyers figure out the specifics of it.

SPEAKER_00:

It's it's something that I think has to be tackled. How it's tackled, I don't know. Trump is obviously working on it and gonna make a move here probably before the midterm, whether or not he gets blocked or not. I think part of the reason why he hasn't done it is he doesn't want to leave enough time for a judge to really go in and block it. So we'll see. But at the same time, you have to have enough time to prepare for the election. So it's a fine balancing act.

SPEAKER_02:

And the one thing you gotta say about Trump's legal team, they're doing much better this time around. Yeah, they're they're actually pushing through and getting the judgments from federal judges quickly enough and with the correct judgments coming through. So they're basically every time some lawfare judge put in by a Democrat stops Trump from trying to do something with an executive order, his legal team is very good at instantly appealing that to a higher level court and getting the appropriate ruling. So that's one thing I've been happy with. Even though I still don't like Pam Bondi. Huh? What's that? I still don't like Pam Bondi, but yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not over.

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, you this is morning for you. You got your whole day coming up, so let's get to it.

SPEAKER_00:

I gotta I gotta go get a shower and get ready and go go poke holes in the government down here a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02:

So yeah. Well, you do you do your thing and make sure you don't close your browser as we wrap up here. Yeah, and we will see you guys on the next episode. See ya.

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