SPEAKER_05: 0:25

Wowdy, Ben. How are you today? I'm doing alright, Gene. I am tired, I gotta tell you. I got up at four this morning. Why would you get up at four? It was not on purpose. Oh, you must have been watching the Olympics, I see. No, no, no. I had just had issues and woke up this morning and couldn't go back to sleep. Okay. So you weren't watching women's curling? No. No. Okay. Anyway.

SPEAKER_06: 0:54

Yeah. It's good to be back again. You're back? Yeah, you're back from your trip halfway around the world. How was that?

SPEAKER_05: 1:00

I mean, it it worked out uh pretty well, actually. I gotta say, the flight back in from Japan home was fantastic. Like, I'm really impressed with United on some of the new planes in Polaris. Like they're doing a good job.

unknown: 1:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 1:22

So you were you were horizontal the whole time, I gather. More or less, yes.

SPEAKER_05: 1:28

So a 13-hour flight and just slept most of it.

SPEAKER_06: 1:32

Okay. Well, that's pretty good. And how was the the time adjustment on the way there and then on the way back?

SPEAKER_05: 1:39

Actually, not terrible. Like it's always easier to go east, I think. And so I didn't really have a hard time with the time adjustment on the way there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:52

I just wasn't staying up real late at night, obviously, because you know, I stay up late enough at night here that if I'm in bed by 10 or so there, it's not that big of a you know problem. It's just a day ahead.

SPEAKER_06: 2:06

Yeah. Well, it's also 12 hours difference. 16, actually. So 16, so that's actually less than, so that's actually what 12 hours difference. No, eight hours difference.

SPEAKER_05: 2:18

Right, because it's one day ahead.

SPEAKER_06: 2:20

Yeah, yeah. So eight hours, yeah, that's actually less than I thought. I thought it was actually twelve. So it's only eight hours difference. It doesn't matter which direction. I mean, eight hours is just eight hours. And so ten would be just a shift of because you're normally what up till twelve? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that's like a six hour, yeah. Okay, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_05: 2:43

It's so it wasn't too bad, but gotta tell you, Guam is beautiful. Okay, holy crap. Good to do. I I I got to drive around the island and watch the sunrise as far east as I've ever been, you know, or west, I guess.

SPEAKER_06: 2:59

And then yeah, it was just I'm pretty sure the sun still rises in the east, even though right, right.

SPEAKER_05: 3:06

But I'm saying I was as far west as I've ever been, I misspoke there. But anyway, it it's just gorgeous. It's a very small island.

SPEAKER_06: 3:12

It's only you just went the west way to get there.

SPEAKER_05: 3:15

Yeah, yeah. It it's only 38 miles by 15 miles.

SPEAKER_06: 3:19

Yeah. And I've I've played that island in in World War II video games. I mean, I've flown planes over it.

SPEAKER_05: 3:26

It's teeny, but I I can tell you what, I would if I were gonna live there, I would live on the south of the island.

SPEAKER_06: 3:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 3:34

In a heartbeat. It's the less populated portion, okay, and you can get land there and live off the grid fairly actually reasonably.

SPEAKER_06: 3:44

Just do a uh Starlink kind of thing. Yep. Uh so you checked on land prices even. Wow, interesting.

SPEAKER_01: 3:51

I was curious. Well, you know, see if it was more than Hawaii.

SPEAKER_06: 3:55

There's nothing wrong with if you get if your job allows it, who cares where you live? You know, or if you just don't have to work, obviously. Yeah, well, anyway. And as a U.S. citizen, do you need to do anything special to move there? No, it's a US territory. So you well, I don't know. I've never tried to live on a US territory.

SPEAKER_05: 4:15

I know, like you don't have to pay income tax, right?

SPEAKER_06: 4:18

Well, that's the benefit, right? But they they they still have local tax, though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And a sales tax, I would imagine. Yeah, I imagine. Did you buy anything there? Did you remember what percent was? But I wasn't paying attention. Okay, all right. That's that's fair. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you're just buying stuff at the local military base on your CIA card. But let's see.

SPEAKER_05: 4:42

There are several bases, and no, I didn't visit any of them.

SPEAKER_06: 4:45

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 4:46

Or do I have a CIA card? Let's just assume that's the case. Yeah, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03: 4:51

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05: 4:52

Uh which, by the way, I didn't realize this, but did you know Guam is a major nexus of the undersea cables?

SPEAKER_06: 4:59

No, I did not.

SPEAKER_05: 5:01

Yeah. Apparently, a ton of undersea cables terminate on Guam. Okay, that's why it has not CIA.

SPEAKER_06: 5:07

Got it. That makes more sense.

SPEAKER_03: 5:11

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06: 5:12

I would imagine that that makes sense, just like Hawaii. Yep. If it's an island, it's a convenient place to do all the splicing and things. I've never seen one of those deep sea cables in person, so I don't really have a size reference.

SPEAKER_05: 5:29

Literally comes up out of the ocean onto the beach. How big is what's the diameter? It depends on the cable. But like they're you can Google it, they're fairly armored. Yeah, I probably just a foot around.

SPEAKER_06: 5:43

A foot? That's actually smaller than I would imagine. I figured they'd be like a couple of feet around. Because you gotta have enough like material on there to prevent critters from both chewing on them and from like really small critters to live on them and dig into them.

SPEAKER_05: 5:59

They're they're really not that big around.

SPEAKER_01: 6:01

Hmm.

SPEAKER_06: 6:03

Like here. And they literally are laying on the floor, they're not floating or anything. Correct. Here, I'll send it in. Well, that's not gonna help people listening. So I yeah, you can send it, I'll take a look, but I was just curious if if you've seen one.

SPEAKER_05: 6:20

Right, but they're they're not that big around. You'd be surprised, and the way they have the conductors and everything.

unknown: 6:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 6:27

And I imagine each one that goes down is a faster one than the previous one. I'm sure, yeah. Yeah, oh yeah, that is actually smaller than I thought it would be for sure. Yeah.

unknown: 6:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 6:38

Huh.

SPEAKER_05: 6:40

And I'm sure that like I said, there are different sizes and different styles and stuff, but they're not they're not real huge.

SPEAKER_06: 6:47

No, it doesn't look like it. Oh, that's interesting. So we've had a a a few speeches by a few folks in the government. Let's start there. Okay. I was really blown away at the one that Rubio did. I just like had a big shit-idden grin on my face the entire time I was watching it.

SPEAKER_05: 7:06

He told the the Europeans, you're fucking up, and we will do it on our own if we have to, but stop.

SPEAKER_06: 7:13

Yeah, basically said, if you're not gonna fix yourself, you're not going to be allies.

SPEAKER_05: 7:19

You you're going to be too weak to be allies of media.

SPEAKER_06: 7:22

You're not gonna be worth being allies, I think was the message. Which was fucking awesome. I I thought that was great. Yeah. And now I understand that political speeches are all written by somebody else. Nobody is doing this extemporaneously. They're not just speaking off the cuff. If they're being asked questions, they're doing an interview, sure. Even though that's still practiced answers, but nonetheless, I'm Rubio's my dude. He's the guy I'm gonna be supporting for president at this point. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05: 7:56

I don't and I never thought I would be supporting a Catholic. I never thought I'd like Rubio as much as I do. That said, I think it would be better off for Vance to get it and Rubio to be VP and then Rubio run. Because Vance is gonna be a good one. Yeah, Vance is younger.

SPEAKER_06: 8:19

Vance is younger.

SPEAKER_05: 8:21

Right, but he's already VP, so he's not gonna be VP.

SPEAKER_06: 8:24

Well, then he's gonna be a one-term VP, that's fine. I have no problem with that. There's no there's no prerequisite here for Vance to be involved at all. Vance can become a senator again, Vance can become a Supreme Court justice, for all I care. I mean, we've had a president uh do that. I don't dislike Vance, but I really like what Rubio's doing, the way he's acting. He, to me, is the obvious next Trump like meaning strong president.

SPEAKER_05: 8:55

The problem with Vance is Vance's he's you know he's wishy-washy.

SPEAKER_06: 9:00

He's eloquent, but he's No, no, no.

SPEAKER_05: 9:02

I'm talking about Rubio. Oh, Rubio.

SPEAKER_06: 9:04

Well, what's wrong with Rubio?

SPEAKER_05: 9:06

A little light in the loafers.

SPEAKER_06: 9:09

I don't I don't see that.

SPEAKER_05: 9:11

I think he was a known, like there's the known gay dancer.

SPEAKER_06: 9:18

Known gay dancer? What does that mean?

SPEAKER_03: 9:20

Yeah, go go dancer or whatever, cool boy, Marco Rubio.

SPEAKER_06: 9:25

What? I don't know what you're referring to. Are you saying he's gay or are you implying he's gay? No, I'm saying it's he's out, he's gay, he's got a husband.

SPEAKER_05: 9:39

No, but he has been it's like Lindsey Graham, dude.

SPEAKER_06: 9:44

He is nothing like Lindsey Graham, dude. Lindsey Graham is Lindsey Graham. There's zero people in the country on either side of the aisle that think Lindsey Graham is straight.

SPEAKER_05: 9:55

Yeah, so there's uh photos of Marco Rubio at gay pool parties, bubble parties, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_06: 10:02

Oh, like who hasn't been to a gay pool bubble party? Come on. I haven't. That we know of. Come on. No. But if you've ever been in Miami Beach, you know, you can't control whose pool party you're in. You just all go to a pool party and then you realize things.

SPEAKER_03: 10:21

Okay. I think there's some stuff there. Yeah, well, whatever.

SPEAKER_06: 10:26

I don't care. First of all, I it just it's it'd be funny, but it wouldn't be relevant. I mean, we've already had the first gay president, so it's okay. We've had multiple gay presidents, I think. But including Lincoln. I think I think he is oh, I hadn't heard about Lincoln. Really? He was gay too.

SPEAKER_05: 10:43

Yeah, that's where the log cabin Republicans come from.

SPEAKER_06: 10:46

Oh, because they're you know the log cabin republicans have been endorsing Democrats for 20 years now. So I I maybe it's time to stop calling them the low cabin Republicans.

SPEAKER_03: 10:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm just saying, yeah. Uh you know, parents are often gay.

SPEAKER_06: 11:01

But the but I I don't know, man. I like I like what Rubio has to say. And again, the fact to me, the the only real negative is he's Catholic.

SPEAKER_03: 11:11

Well, you know.

SPEAKER_06: 11:12

Which I guess let leads some credence to him being gay. Indeed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 11:19

Or at least bendiddled.

SPEAKER_06: 11:22

Let's see. Now, I did not watch your video on Chad Crawley or the Chad Crawley link you sent. What was that link? I don't know what that link was.

SPEAKER_05: 11:32

Which link are you talking about?

SPEAKER_06: 11:33

It's the one right above the Rubio one. Oh my god, let me just go. I'm scrolling backwards through your your links you were sending here. I don't know what you were thinking. You were gonna like I was gonna watch 20 videos all in a row from you.

SPEAKER_05: 11:50

Oh, it's Robert Robert Rupert Lowe. Um, okay. So Rupert Lowe has started a new political party in Great Britain.

SPEAKER_06: 11:59

Oh, you okay. Maybe I did see something. I don't think I watched that video, but it now Musk is supporting him or something.

SPEAKER_05: 12:05

Musk is supporting him. Yeah. They've already connected the Amelia memes to the Restore Britain party. Right, right, right. There's already calls for restore Germany, restore France. Like this is being memed into existence, dude. But there's a very good chance that this could happen. Jeremy Clarkston is supposed to be supporting him. Um which there are already people making memes of Jeremy Clarkson being Cincinnatus. Like that's funny. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 12:35

Now, Jeremy, yeah, Jeremy Clarkson, I think, is popular enough both locally and internationally that he could be a politician instantly. He could be a prime minister, yes. He could totally be a prime minister, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05: 12:49

God, could you imagine? Yeah, I could.

SPEAKER_06: 12:51

That would be awesome.

SPEAKER_05: 12:53

And this is where we save.

SPEAKER_06: 12:57

Not just subsidies, he would charge him more money.

SPEAKER_05: 13:00

Here's where we would actually save Great Britain, and the U.S.'s hegemony would go from Great Britain all the way to Japan.

SPEAKER_06: 13:09

And we would see on Amazon about the British government.

SPEAKER_05: 13:14

Yes, ten dollars.

SPEAKER_06: 13:15

Because obviously that'd be a that'd be a live recordings of him doing everything he's doing. It'll be called Germany's government.

SPEAKER_03: 13:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 13:24

Or Clarkson Government. And uh Caleb Caleb would probably have to be a minister too, then.

SPEAKER_05: 13:31

Yeah, the reform party, you're not gonna like it. Um but they took they're taking very hard anti-immigrant stance, as they should.

SPEAKER_06: 13:39

But they're going to be the reform party here or in the UK?

SPEAKER_05: 13:42

The UK. The UK Reform Party. Yeah, yeah. In its announcement, Rupert Lowe even said that that one of their stated goals is to ban the slaughter of halal and kosher meat in Great Britain. Don't think they can do that. Sure, they can. They can set practices for their food standards.

SPEAKER_06: 14:03

Yeah, but that would mean reducing the standards. Because both halal and kosher uh food, well, meat butchery standards are as high as food standards. Like, no one has laws for butchering that supersede the laws of kosher.

SPEAKER_05: 14:23

Yeah, your meat and milk just can't mix.

SPEAKER_06: 14:25

Anyway. Well, okay, but that that's different. That's a different thing. Because uh, butchery doesn't have anything to do with milk, it has to do with blood and how long blood can stay inside the carcass without being removed. I understand. So I'm just saying the way that you would get rid of it, the way you would enforce it.

SPEAKER_05: 14:42

Hold on. I'm just telling you, that was one of his stated statements.

SPEAKER_06: 14:46

I think it's a silly thing, but the way you would.

SPEAKER_05: 14:48

I think it's actually a pretty catchy line for the Brits at this point.

SPEAKER_06: 14:51

For people that don't know what kosher butchery laws are, yes. But because it would it would literally be reducing your laws and saying you can have worse quality meat. Or you have to have worse quality meat. That's what it would ultimately do. They don't they obviously don't want two religious practices in there. So I mean, here's what I would be against. I would be against a government legislature mandating kosher or halal laws. Like that's not something that you should do. Well, but I don't see limiting it.

SPEAKER_05: 15:25

The announcement is very good, it's very well done. They're they're already gaining steam here over the weekend quite a bit. So yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 15:38

Did now related to that, I'm sure you've seen, or maybe you were even the one who uh linked it to me, the the quiet leaving meme with Amelia video, or the go home one, but like yeah, I forget what its actual title is, but it's not the sort of you know, like kicking out all the people with with really dramatic music in the background meme for Amelia, but this one is more like you know, you really you wanna you miss your home, you miss the great weather, you miss all these things, you want to go home. It's kind of the understated approach to get the fuck out of my country.

SPEAKER_05: 16:18

Yeah, but this is the thing is they the Amelia memes are attacking on every side. Like there's already been this Rupert Lowe, Amelia Meme, like him and Amelia together. Okay, her saying, Thank you, Rupert, this is what we need, and stuff like that. Like this is hot. I almost feel like with him coming out and saying and doing this, that the Amelia memes were staged starting a few weeks ago to get ready for this.

SPEAKER_06: 16:50

I think they were pretty natural. A lot of people that have just are good with AI started cranking them out.

SPEAKER_05: 16:57

Well, and the whole pathways game that Great Britain put out, you know. Yeah, yeah. Uh certainly ripe for it. But yeah, it it just, I'm telling you though, it's just so coincidental, and the reform party is exactly what people who are into the Amelia memes are after.

SPEAKER_06: 17:15

Yeah, and here's where I agree with this is I don't think that any of the existing parties, including Nigel Farage's old party, can really tackle this. This has to be a new party, and I think it's true for the United States as well. I think there has to be that new party. No, I think there has to be an actual new party that takes the lead on this. You if it can be called MAGA, but you have to divorce it from the Republicans.

SPEAKER_05: 17:42

We already are.

SPEAKER_06: 17:43

It can't simply be, you know, the Republican Party because the Republican Party is at least 40% comprised of rhinos.

SPEAKER_05: 17:52

So I had a pollster call me today. Oh, lucky and I haven't had one of those for ages. And started asking me questions about who I would support in the Texas primary and so on. And Brandon Herrera. Well, no, it was they were mainly focused on the Senate race between Ken Paxton and John Cornyn.

SPEAKER_01: 18:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 18:15

And you know, everything they asked me just reminded me about how shitty John Cornyn is. Yep. And, you know, no, I 100% Ken Paxton is getting my vote on this.

SPEAKER_06: 18:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I and you know, I've told the story before, right? My office back many years ago used to be right across the hall from Paxton's office in Dallas. You mean Cornyn's? Corn, sorry, you're right. Cornyn's office in Dallas. And so I would occasionally walk over there and I I never did get a private meeting with him, but uh a few times, you know, I I got to just kind of chat a little bit while he was coming in or out. I but my my impression was you know that this guy is barely better than Lindsey Graham, and that I was kind of surprised that he wasn't getting more challenges in Texas because his liked in Terrant County. Yeah, I guess that's what it is. But yeah, I I'd love to see Ken Paxton out there. Can I look Cann's got his own faults, but Ken is a go-getter.

SPEAKER_05: 19:28

Yeah, I did meet with Cornyn because I met with the entire Texas delegation in a private meeting back when I lobbied against Obamacare. That was a while ago. But anyway, I was yeah. That was a crazy time. Anyway, sorry.

SPEAKER_06: 19:46

And I've certainly written to his office and called his office numerous times, but you know, talking to the AIDS. Because it's yeah. He I mean he's been in the Senate since 2002. And he's not, yeah, exactly. And he's not really, I don't believe, representative of modern day Texas.

SPEAKER_05: 20:04

No, not at all. He's more the old school Southern Democrat style.

SPEAKER_06: 20:12

Yeah, he's like a, you know, we're here to to wheel and deal and and get some get some subsidies for Texas kind of thing.

SPEAKER_05: 20:21

Well, and he he does put money in people's coffers, but he is not the kind of person I want.

SPEAKER_06: 20:28

Yeah. So then you you also have, I guess we're going through a bunch of your stuff here first that you sent me because we're sending stuff at different times of the day. But you had a good quote from Musk. We said that you have to have a common culture for a country to survive. Nobody dies to defend a multicultural economic zone. So in America, we have to have American culture, in England, you have to have English culture, and each country has to have a culture, preferably that people there actually want.

SPEAKER_05: 21:02

And there's nothing wrong with the melting pot. There is a problem with the salad bowl.

SPEAKER_06: 21:09

Yeah, yeah. And the key to the melting pot has to be that each new ingredient doesn't drastically alter the flavor of the pot.

SPEAKER_04: 21:19

Agreed. It can only be.

SPEAKER_06: 21:21

This is why Islam is a problem. Because the goal of Islam.

SPEAKER_05: 21:27

It's why you know the I read a book a while ago that's very was written obviously by a Jew. But it literally it is. But it it's called The Guarded Gate, and it's about America's immigration policy leading up to World War II. Yeah. And this guy is basically blaming America for the Holocaust for not letting in more Jews.

SPEAKER_06: 21:50

Oh, you talked about that book before. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 21:52

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but every time I go back and look at America's immigration policy in the late 1800s, or first part of the 20th century, yeah. It's the right one.

SPEAKER_06: 22:06

I like the American immigration policy in the late 1700s, which disallowed Catholics.

SPEAKER_05: 22:13

Well, I'm okay with that too, but I at least be Christian, you know. Like Christian Well, I don't know about that. I mean and you know uh Judeo-Christian descent, we'll put it that way, and native English speaker, and or you know, the Nordic nations were even somewhat pooed.

SPEAKER_06: 22:34

Uh yeah. The problem with the Nordic nations is they are historically like violent? No, no, no. Other way around. If you look at the Nordic nations pre-Christianity, what is their heritage? What what what do we know about them, right? Is they were extremely violent. They were all about survival. They, you know, they were people living in a place where half the year you have shitty weather, they're gonna they're gonna be, yeah. They're gonna be estimating that. No, no, no. I'm I'm remember, I'm from up there, dude. I I am from the right on the Gulf of Finland. So the the you have the Gulf Stream warming that region up. Uh, and most of the population lived on the southern coast of Sweden, Norway, and Finland, not on the northern coast. So, but either way, it's you get long winters there, and you don't have particularly good fertile soil. But after Christianity, all those countries just became pussies. They just they they fully bought into the turn the other cheek mentality. And as somebody that spent the majority of my life growing up in Minnesota, that was very visible, is that the the you know northern Lutheran kind of attitude of people whose grandparents came from Sweden or Norway was very much of like, well, you know, you just gotta just let let things happen, let people do their thing. You don't worry about it. It was a it was not at all a guarded attitude about preserving culture, which also explains why modern day Sweden and Norway are filled with Islamists. Yeah. Because they've just letting people in, willy-nilly.

SPEAKER_05: 24:50

That didn't come through on your end, did it? What?

SPEAKER_06: 24:53

No.

SPEAKER_05: 24:53

Okay, good. If you cough, then no. No, I accidentally hit play on an X video. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 25:00

Don't be playing your pornos here. Uh not not here. You can play them all you want the rest of the time. So I think an appropriate quote from Musk on that count.

SPEAKER_05: 25:16

I will say, and Japan is making damn sure of it. Their bons are party. I'm waiting, I'm waiting for Hirohito to come back.

SPEAKER_06: 25:27

Yeah, I don't know about that. But Japan is definitely done with post-World War II Americanism.

SPEAKER_05: 25:34

Did you see the new prime minister's statement saying the sun has riven risen over Japan again? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they put out a video of you know, it was all our shit. It was I know that's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_06: 25:46

Yeah, they put a video of our shit out.

SPEAKER_05: 25:48

Yeah, but they had the rising sun flag on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Japan, they're already working to alter their constitution so they can have an offensive military again.

SPEAKER_06: 25:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 25:59

Japan is back, baby.

SPEAKER_06: 26:00

Uh, and I I think that that's probably about time. It's been too long that that we've been taking care of them militarily. I would like the U.S. to not have to do that. And again, this goes in line with the speech that Rubio gave. We want allies that are capable of defending themselves and if need be, us.

SPEAKER_05: 26:20

Yes, and this goes to what I've been saying about the Neo Monroe doctrine and us controlling. We already control the second island chain. We're likely gonna control the first island chain. Yeah, we're pr I I truly believe we could potentially see a reunification of the Korean peninsula in the next 10 years. And I think Vietnam's gonna be on our side because Vietnam manufacturing is going through the roof, and China is on the road. Vietnam is gonna be cheap. I don't there's no way Vietnam is not. Vietnamese hate the Chinese at this point, they are being economically repressed by the Chinese.

SPEAKER_06: 26:56

The Vietnamese absolutely do not hate the Chinese. The majority of Vietnamese regularly can go to China for business purposes or even vacation. There are a lot of back and forth traffic happening. The the last elected official in Taiwan was more pro-Chinese than any of his predecessors for 20 years. I think reunification is gonna happen, and China is playing the slow game on it right now, at least. So it could very well happen through votes and not through a military action. As soon as the factories are finished in the United States, which you know, there's a couple of them that are in construction right now, including a Samsung one here in Texas.

SPEAKER_05: 27:39

Yeah, I'm my company's building quite a few of them.

SPEAKER_06: 27:42

As soon as that is done, and the U.S. has a lot less interest in Taiwan, I think there's a very good chance that unification will happen through Taiwanese legislature.

SPEAKER_05: 27:55

Oof. I don't know, man. There's a lot of Taiwanese that still.

SPEAKER_06: 27:59

The Taiwanese that hate China are the ones working in the United States.

SPEAKER_05: 28:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 28:06

I'm not saying there aren't any of them because obviously they haven't rejoined China at this point. They're spending money that they're getting for free. We provide more aid to Taiwan than we do to Israel. Someone's a little jealous. It's hard to argue with free military gear, dude.

SPEAKER_05: 28:26

I don't think we let Taiwan, China, have Taiwan. I just don't think we do.

SPEAKER_06: 28:31

I think it's a question of time. I I think it is not worth going to war with a nuclear power for the island of Taiwan. Maybe some people think it is.

SPEAKER_05: 28:43

Certainly, first of all, it would never go to the nuke stage. And China, if faced by the US Navy, cannot invade Taiwan. They just can't.

SPEAKER_06: 28:55

China doesn't have to invade Taiwan. They need to destroy Taiwan and have an empty island, which they will be able to take in the future.

SPEAKER_05: 29:02

They don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_06: 29:05

Well, it doesn't mean they're not going to do that. You know, the the current president of China isn't going to be their president forever.

SPEAKER_05: 29:11

I mean, he's president for life.

SPEAKER_06: 29:13

Yeah, and he's not going to be alive forever. We will see. I I mean this is a this is a point where I just think that China is not given nearly enough credit by most Americans who all they think of in China is cheap, shitty quality products. And that's, you know, every meme, every stereotype has a root in reality, as a is a root in fact. And you can't deny that Chinese quality is way under Japanese quality and other places. But that is not to say that a country with more people in the world than anybody else is somehow incapable of getting a little island that's off their coast slightly further away than Cuba is off ours.

SPEAKER_05: 30:06

Which you want to go to Cuba next?

SPEAKER_06: 30:08

That's why I said it.

SPEAKER_05: 30:09

Yes. So Mexico is bailing out Cuba.

SPEAKER_01: 30:15

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05: 30:16

Not the only ones, but yes. They're the primary ones, they're the ones taking in oil. Which I think we ought to put blockade around Cuba and just say nope.

SPEAKER_06: 30:26

Well, I thought we did have exactly that right now. Is that not the case?

SPEAKER_05: 30:30

We have not interdicted any? Okay. Any vessels.

SPEAKER_06: 30:36

So why are they complaining about a blockade then?

SPEAKER_05: 30:39

Because commercial vessels are not sailing through there.

SPEAKER_06: 30:43

Well, what is our oil vessels not commercial?

SPEAKER_05: 30:47

Mexican military, Mexican Navy is not commercial. Oh, wait. I thought it was Mexican commercial vessels.

SPEAKER_06: 30:55

So Mexican military vessels?

SPEAKER_05: 30:57

Yes. What? That's delivering aid.

SPEAKER_06: 31:00

Yep. Mexico's gonna end up getting a blockade around Mexico if they keep this up.

SPEAKER_05: 31:05

Oh well. So when the El Paso thing happened, several Mexican officials have come out and since said that they were worried about an incursion.

SPEAKER_01: 31:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05: 31:15

And they should be. Yes. I think I said at the very beginning of this, northern Mexico is going to be a demilitarized zone.

SPEAKER_06: 31:25

Yeah. That wouldn't hurt. Just like Ukraine. Yeah. Makes sense to have a DMZ.

SPEAKER_05: 31:33

Anyway, so Cuba is about to go klop. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 31:39

Yeah, I mean, I'm sad for the people there, but like I can't believe we didn't take Cuba fully back. I mean, I can, obviously, during Obama, but like after Castro died and his brother took over, come on. It would have been so easy to just come in there and liberate quote unquote Cuba after how many times have we done this in other countries? Well, all the colored revolutions.

SPEAKER_05: 32:03

I think we're gonna do another yoinkening, is what I think is gonna happen. Is we're gonna push Cuba to the brink. Tell Castro that he's gotta go. And if he doesn't, dude, look at what we did to Maduro.

SPEAKER_06: 32:17

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05: 32:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 32:20

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because I again I've been saying forever, my entire life, pretty much, that I I want to go and visit Cuba for multiple reasons. I want to see Hemingway's house. I want to, you know, see a lot of the stuff in Cuba. You're a Hemingway fan. I've always been a Hemingway fan, yeah. I think he's a very good writer. Shitty writer. No, no, no, no, no. He's a very good writer.

SPEAKER_05: 32:45

No, he's not. He is. He is he he does not understand relations between men and women, for one.

SPEAKER_06: 32:52

That's not the what I'm referring to when I say good writer.

SPEAKER_05: 32:56

But I mean what is your favorite Hemingway book?

SPEAKER_06: 33:01

For Whom to Build Tolls, probably.

SPEAKER_05: 33:04

Okay. I really the overrated book. And Old Man and the Sea is just someone who grew up uh going out to sea. It's a parable.

SPEAKER_06: 33:15

It's a parable, man.

SPEAKER_05: 33:17

Oh, here's the thing you gotta I don't enjoy Hemingway when he takes a page to describe a flick of dust.

SPEAKER_06: 33:24

Have you read this? Have you read any of Hemingway's newspaper articles? No. Have you read any of okay? Because you gotta remember, the guy was predominantly a journalist who also wrote some fiction.

SPEAKER_05: 33:37

I only read his fiction and I do not enjoy it.

SPEAKER_06: 33:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 33:41

He did not leave enough up to my imagination.

SPEAKER_06: 33:44

Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. You know, there's a certain amount of just personal preference that's involved with any kind of writing or paints, paintings, or anything else, any art. So I give you that. But I I've enjoyed him. I also like just the guy, Hemingway, the the image, the avid hunter, the he was very much a man's man.

SPEAKER_05: 34:12

That's another way of saying log cabin Republican.

SPEAKER_06: 34:15

No, that's that's only if you're looking for that, I guess. For some reason you seem to be lately. But no, he was very much a macho type guy. He I've been to his house in Key West, and I know you're gonna say Key West, there's another gay reference. You know?

SPEAKER_05: 34:34

I know. It's well, hey, and the three-toed cats all over Key West and all that.

SPEAKER_06: 34:39

Three-toed dude, they're six-toed.

SPEAKER_05: 34:41

Six-toed, whatever.

SPEAKER_06: 34:42

Yeah. Six-toed toes.

SPEAKER_05: 34:44

Inappropriate number of toes.

SPEAKER_06: 34:46

Well, that's that's it's called inbreeding, man. That has little to do with him. Well, he just fed him.

SPEAKER_03: 34:53

His thing was he used to cats, though.

SPEAKER_06: 34:55

Yeah, yeah, because he fed cats. He was a guy that cats from all over the island started coming to because he would feed him. Anyway. So I like that. I think that he was he's an interesting character. He committed suicide ultimately, which again is something that I think a lot of people dislike about him. Like he's not somebody to emulate. But I don't know. I I I'm I would generally consider myself a fan of Hemingway. And I think his writing style, unlike you seem to dislike it, I actually really like it because and I've learned to actually write like him in classes, because it conveys action a lot better than most other writing styles. You know what the main difference between Hemingway's writing is and and most authors? What's that? Is he didn't use ad adjectives. He only used verbs and ad and adverbs. Okay. So it's not a descriptive style, it's a very active style. Where you leave a lot more up to the imagination to flush out the the scene, and you talk about the actions happening in the scene.

SPEAKER_05: 36:18

I think he I disagree in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_06: 36:22

Oh, I know what I'm gonna buy you for your birthday. I so know what I'm I'm I'm gonna give you a c I'm gonna buy a class in Hemingway for you.

SPEAKER_05: 36:30

Oh God, please no. I'd$2,000 class. That's the same one that I did. No, I know what your present is. I know exactly what your present is now. I I was tortured enough in high school in college with Hemingway.

SPEAKER_06: 36:42

Oh, no, no, no. We're gonna send you to a class. This will be great. And then you can talk about it.

SPEAKER_05: 36:47

Anyway, so Cuba, I think, is very likely to be off the table as an adversarial state of any kind. I mean, it's it really hasn't been.

SPEAKER_06: 37:00

It should just be adult version of South Florida, you know. I mean, like it's well, I think it will be a U.S. territory. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_05: 37:10

Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_06: 37:11

It used to be a US territory. We shouldn't have given that up. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05: 37:15

When was it a US territory?

SPEAKER_06: 37:17

After we helped defeat the Spanish and kick them out of there.

SPEAKER_05: 37:20

It was never a US territory.

SPEAKER_06: 37:22

I'm pretty sure it was a US territory. Okay. I don't think they had a government. Let me look here. Let's keep talking and I'll I'll look it up.

SPEAKER_03: 37:30

I'm Googling it.

SPEAKER_05: 37:31

Oh, okay. All right, well, you Google it then. Cuba gained its independence from Spain and U.S. occupation in 1902. We occupied it, but we never claimed it as a territory.

SPEAKER_06: 37:44

Until when?

SPEAKER_05: 37:45

1902. Yeah, between 18 for four years, 1898 to 1902.

SPEAKER_06: 37:51

Yeah. And I'm pretty sure we ran the government during those four years in Cuba. Uh, we absolutely gave it up. Now you can say it was not an official, like we didn't collect taxes there, probably.

SPEAKER_05: 38:04

And it was technically they were a protectorate status in the 30s.

SPEAKER_06: 38:09

There you go. There you go. So, yes, in the sense of they American laws didn't apply in Cuba, that's probably true. But, you know, in the same way that we have American bases in places that are not technically US territory, but the that American base is the biggest thing there. That that was essentially what we had with Cuba. So what was happening during those years is tons of Americans were going there for American entertainment. Yeah. It was a place because they didn't have American laws, you could drink the original Coca-Cola formula there. You know, you could you could you know, brothels and gambling baby. That's what Cuba was. So in fact, there was even a song by the uh Andrew sisters about it. So about how mothers and daughters both work in the you know the professional trade.

SPEAKER_05: 39:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 39:14

You know the song, right? No. Drinking Rum and Coca-Cola? No. Both mother and daughter? No. Working for the Yankee Dollar? You don't know the song? Holy shit. It's a go it's a great song. You just Google Andrew's sister's Rum and Coca-Cola, and you'll will you'll get it. Okay. Clearly I grew up in an earlier than you.

SPEAKER_05: 39:42

Slightly, yes.

SPEAKER_06: 39:43

Yeah. A little bit. And you know, you as a kid when I heard this song, I didn't make the connection that they're talking about prostitution, but they're definitely talking about prostitution. Because working for the Yankee dollar, both mother and daughter, that has a pretty clear meaning. Yeah, and like that was popular music back in the day. There nobody was old, you know. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05: 40:16

Yeah, so Alex Jones was wrong. No, you're kidding. About what? The Epstein stuff last night.

SPEAKER_06: 40:24

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 40:25

I watched that stuff live. Well, I mean And he put it out a uh basically an apology video today.

SPEAKER_06: 40:31

Oh, did he? I didn't watch the apology video. I mean, what he ought to be putting out an apology video for is being on Myron Gaines program, the Sudanese propagandist for Islam. That's what he ought to be apologizing for. But yeah, I saw Alex Jones when he started putting that stuff out, which is when I quickly went and grabbed the files myself and then ran a whole bunch of stuff through Grok and built a spreadsheet of all the names that are mentioned in connection with Epstein and then generated a song about it, which will be at the end of this episode. Oh god. And and this is just the version one of the did you listen to it?

SPEAKER_05: 41:11

No, I it just sounded like a bunch of names. It is a bunch of names.

SPEAKER_06: 41:17

You must not have gotten the reference. Adam got the reference. This is this is in the style of Billy Joel's We Didn't Start the Fire.

SPEAKER_05: 41:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 41:26

You know that song?

SPEAKER_05: 41:27

Yes, I know, but we didn't start.

SPEAKER_06: 41:29

It's a bunch of names. That song is literally 24 names, is the first 24 lines in the song. Which is what my song has, exactly the same format. So y'all can make up your own minds, that'll be at the end of the episode. But yeah, I mean, I don't know, man. I I like Alex as you know. I think he's been more right than wrong and a whole ton of stuff. But the one thing Alex has always had in common is he jumps in with both feet. Yes. There is no analysis delay with Alex Jones. So whatever information he has available, he just and you know, when he was talking about the Epstein list that just came out last night, he didn't even realize his name is on that list.

SPEAKER_05: 42:16

Well, and then he's yeah, then he posted another video talking about his name being on that list.

SPEAKER_06: 42:21

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It's like, dude, Elvis is on. What did I tell you? I was sending you stuff last night as I was going through it. Elvis is on it. Marilyn Monroe is on it. Janice Joplin's on it. Kirk Cobain's on it. I mean, there's like a whole ton of people that are on it that obviously weren't doing anything with Epstein. That's what makes it funny. And that's why, you know, my song has and all the names in my song, incidentally, are actually from the what Grok came out with the full list. And the full list is basically what got released yesterday, combined with all the names mentioned in any of the previous lawsuits. So it's all disclosed names, including the ones where, you know, it was a trivial kind of thing. Like somebody mentions a conversation about Elvis, and of course, not makes Elvis be in the list. So, but that's what I'm making fun of is the fact that we've got a whole bunch of just names. And the first thing people are jumping to is like, yep, these are all the clients. No, this is not a client list. This is a database search list for anything that is a name. And this is some people would say, if you look at it pessimistically, yet another subterfuge from the US government to keep Americans from finding out the truth about Epstein. You just do a dump of a whole bunch of unrelated things just to confuse them and make it harder to find the truth. But also, what they did a dump of was what Congress actually passed into law. So they responded exactly in the way that Congress asked them to. And and so if you want to blame somebody for the list, including Elvis, you gotta blame the way the law was written.

SPEAKER_05: 44:14

I I agree. I I I agree with you.

SPEAKER_06: 44:19

Yeah. You don't always have to disagree, I guess. Not always. Did you watch the video that I sent about a black dude? I'm not what what don't know his background, but it's a video that was recorded in a location with a bunch of black people. So I'm gonna guess it's a church setting. Probably a church. But guys named Anthony Johnson, and he talks about the fact that the very first recorded slave owner in America. Was a black man.

SPEAKER_05: 44:48

Yep. Yeah, because before it was just indentured servitude, indentured servitude, which was a British custom.

SPEAKER_06: 44:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_05: 44:56

And and certainly you knew that already, right?

SPEAKER_06: 44:59

Yes. Yeah, I didn't. No, I didn't know about the first black man. I did not really know that. I knew that at some point there was a common that's common history.

SPEAKER_05: 45:09

So the way slavery started in America was a black man who went to court and said, No, my contract is this, that I own him. Yeah. And what's interesting is I have no problem with slavery per se.

SPEAKER_03: 45:24

Right.

SPEAKER_05: 45:25

Like if I want if I am a free man and I want to sell myself into slavery, I should be allowed to. Now my children should not be bound by that, and there should not be racial slavery.

SPEAKER_06: 45:37

Right. Yeah, you can't just say all Asians are now slaves. Yes, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 45:45

But we have and there is a perception in the United States that oh, America enslaved the blacks. Yeah. That's not true. No, like there were black slave owners, there were black freedmen, there were black slaves. Quite frankly, there were white slaves for a good period of time.

SPEAKER_01: 46:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 46:04

But here's the thing: the whites didn't sell themselves into slavery. Uh they kind of learned that lesson, and you know, we weren't going and conquering another tribe and then taking them to the coast and giving them to the Dutch.

SPEAKER_06: 46:15

No, no, but the Arabs were doing that, the Muslims were absolutely doing that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 46:19

And so were the Africans.

SPEAKER_06: 46:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The non-Muslim Africans as well. Yeah. Yeah, because in in most human cultures, slavery existed at some point in culture, different times for different cultures, right? But I think it's been around forever because you it's an advert. Like, what are you gonna do? Let's say you have a war with somebody, you fight your tribe of 50 to 60 people, you fight with another tribe of 50 to 60 people, whatever, you win. Okay, you've now won all their land that's now yours, the territory they control. You got all their possessions, so now you have two choices. Do you just slaughter everybody and kill literally all of them that are still alive when you win? Or do you not kill them? And if you don't kill them, what are you gonna support them and just have them sit around watching TV? No, you're gonna put them to work. You're gonna get something out of that group of people that you just conquered.

SPEAKER_05: 47:19

Including their women, but yes.

SPEAKER_06: 47:21

Yeah, but you don't always want to marry their women. Like I know that that or marry being a loose term for you know, own, which is what marriage used to be, incidentally. Men used to own the women they were married to. Not anymore these days. But you know, thank the 19th for that. That's a joke, by the way, you can laugh. But maybe you don't want to laugh.

SPEAKER_05: 47:43

Too close to home.

SPEAKER_06: 47:46

Yeah, yes. But my point is simply that slavery is a natural extension of circumstances of victory. Right? And there are people out there that would today say that Americans enslaved Japan and enslaved Germany after World War II. They'd be idiots, but they would say that because we were making decisions on their behalf. We were not just leaving, walking away and saying, okay, well, you you go back and do whatever you want to do. So slavery has existed forever. There's no reason it ought to be tied to any kind of a racial thing, with one exception, where it does make sense, and why I think it was the way that it was in the United States is if somebody can be easily identified, it makes it easier to separate the slaves from non-slaves. Because what did other cultures do, right? So when you have blacks enslaving other blacks, or let's look at Middle Easterners enslaving other Middle Easterners, what they would typically do is brand the slave because they look the same. You can't tell visually from looking at a slave versus the slave owner that they're different, they're from the same ethnic pool. So you have to do something like you brand a slave on the neck to signify the fact that everybody will quickly realize this is not a free person. In the United States, the the the majority of the slaves that were coming from the slave j the slave trade in general were coming from Africa by Dutch, initially British, certainly Spanish for a long time, and Portuguese. So those those countries were supplying the slave trade, right? It wasn't Americans going to Africa in their own ships. Yeah, I just had to hit the cough button for a sec here.

SPEAKER_05: 49:55

Okay. You were talking and then Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 49:59

So what I was saying is Yeah, it's because I was gonna cough in the mic. It wasn't American ships being sent from Virginia to go hunt down African slaves. It was Spanish, Portuguese, the Dutch, Dutch, to some extent English, at least earlier on, they got rid of slavery sooner. Although the English were the ones that kind of imported indentured servitude because they they had tax prisons.

SPEAKER_05: 50:32

So one of the ways that worked is well, debtors' prisons, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 50:35

Yeah, that's what I meant. Debtor's prisons. So you would work off your sentence by essentially having somebody else use your labor, and that included being transported to the colonies. So you know, historically there've been slaves, and you will read in the Old Testament that you should not keep a slave forever. You should let him go on the seventh year.

SPEAKER_05: 51:05

And so this case that I mentioned there was always the notion of, again, that jubilee, right? The forgiveness and so on. And a servant, you know, a good, trusted servant was considered a you know high prize and often ended up fairly wealthy themselves.

SPEAKER_06: 51:25

Right, right. And that that was even the case in a lot of Islamic culture as well, is that there were people that were slaves who weren't free to leave, but they had control over other slaves, and they lived a fairly nice lifestyle. Like, I don't know what category you would put that in. What you know, I mean, like, and House versus sealed. Some no, I don't know. It's like an example of that, like the harem, right? So in the harem, none of these women had the right to leave. And you could say, well, they were all married. Yeah, okay, fine. But there were non there, there was examples of that, even without the the marriage kind of reference there to a husband, where they were just, you know, like somebody that maybe was your financial guy, your accountant, as it were, back in the 10th century, he was not allowed to leave. He wasn't just a nine to five employee, uh, because he had access to your finances, to your money. He could control other things. So I don't know what you call that category. It's it's like you're you're assigned to the job that you can't leave and you can't travel without permission from your lord, but but you're also not really what most people think of when they think of a slave. You're not doing menial work, right? So there was that. So, and then to some extent, even trade guilds, right? The the what do you call them? The uh the young the brand new guys coming in, the apprentices were not allowed to leave. Like once the apprentice had started it working for a master in the guild, he had to commit for four years. That like he can't leave. If he leaves, uh then he will be treated just like a slave would be treated. Like he he is essentially stealing from his master and would suffer major legal consequences if he left. So this idea is not black and white, and certainly it's not limited to the United States the way that I think most people here would portray it as.

SPEAKER_05: 54:18

Yeah, to start bad race relations in the South because he wanted slave revolts so that the Confederate soldiers would go back home to protect their whites.

SPEAKER_06: 54:28

To deal with them. That's exactly right. Because remember, Emancipation Proclamation does not affect slaves in the north.

SPEAKER_05: 54:35

Well, and it didn't affect the slaves in the South because they weren't under the United States government.

SPEAKER_06: 54:40

Right. It it just essentially said that, you know, if we have any say about it, we're gonna treat them as though they're not slaves. Right. But it it it it was a great PR move. You have to agree with that. Like it was a brilliant move.

SPEAKER_05: 54:54

It was an effective move, but yes. And here's the thing. You know, I've told the story on here before of Jim Limber Davis and stuff like that. There the the first lady of the Confederacy adopted a black boy into her home. This is you cannot I'm not saying that racial slavery like that was morally right, because I don't think it is, but based off of the morals of the time and everything else, there was a different sort of decorum. Now, were some of the planter class absolutely horrible to their to their slaves and so on? Huh? At Sugarland? At multiple places, yeah. But the but the planter class was less than one percent of the south, yeah. So, you know, my ancestor had a whopping total of six and worked the fields with them.

SPEAKER_06: 55:48

Mm-hmm. So not very successful, is what you're saying.

SPEAKER_05: 55:51

Oh, he had a several thousand-acre plantation. I mean, it just depends on what you mean.

SPEAKER_06: 55:56

I mean, he didn't have a thousand slaves. What kind of a man is he? Not a rich one? No, I'm just kidding. I'm just having fun.

SPEAKER_05: 56:07

Uh, I mean, it depends on your, you know, where you draw that line. Yeah. So millionaire, not billionaire, right?

SPEAKER_01: 56:15

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05: 56:17

Anyway. And the other thing, like uh Uncle Tom's cabin and roots and stuff give us this idea that the slave owners were just beating the slaves all the time. And that's just stupid, yeah. You don't buy a new farm tractor and then go hit it with a sledgehammer, right?

SPEAKER_06: 56:34

Mm-hmm. Oh, we got a little bit of crackle from your end there. Wonder why. I don't know. I don't know if it was network or what it was, but a little bit of crackle came through.

SPEAKER_05: 56:45

Anyway, so Trump's gonna make you happy. Yeah. Did you see? I mean, he generally does. In what way? Did you see his plan to bring back asylums and mental institutions?

SPEAKER_06: 56:56

No, I actually, as somebody that keeps posting bring back asylums, I did not see that.

SPEAKER_05: 57:01

Yeah, so he started this talk in 2025.

SPEAKER_06: 57:05

Oh, you're still cracking. Hang on. Oh right, so I think we fixed your audio, Ben. Let's say something. Yep, think so. Okay, good, good. So I think we kind of beat that topic to death. Slavery, that is. Let's see what else we talk about.

SPEAKER_05: 57:25

We were talking about the new Trump asylum stuff, too.

SPEAKER_06: 57:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trump uh asylum. So I I was not I I hadn't been up on that story. It's that's very good to hear.

SPEAKER_05: 57:37

Yeah, he he's looking at an executive order to basically bring back state institutions.

SPEAKER_06: 57:44

Yeah, yeah. And uh, and what I am seeing is no matter what Trump does, including I'm sure this will generate the same response, the the Libo Tards are all say, oh my god, he's building concentration camps.

SPEAKER_03: 57:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06: 57:58

So the same, the same people that are basically had no problem with Obama doing all the ice stuff, had no problem with Obama bombing American citizens, had no problem with all the shit that Obama did, which let's and this is before we even get into what they've now got on Obama, which is hilarious. But what do they have now on Obama? Oh no, you're crackling again. What happened? I don't know. Yeah, that's bizarre.

SPEAKER_05: 58:30

Well I I scrolled X.

SPEAKER_06: 58:34

Yeah, that's probably what's doing it. I'm I'm still thinking it's probably one of your one of the 500 tabs you have open that is sucking down CPU, probably. I mean, you you joke, but do you know how many tabs I have open? I'm not joking. Probably around 500.

SPEAKER_05: 58:50

Oh no. I have four windows and seven hundred and ninety-seven tabs.

SPEAKER_06: 58:57

I can't believe we even are able to do this show, frankly. That's just not right.

SPEAKER_03: 59:02

Firefox, baby.

SPEAKER_06: 59:04

Yeah, Firefox, except with crackly sound.

SPEAKER_03: 59:07

Yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06: 59:08

Not good. And we know it's Firefox because when you switched to IE, there was no crackle. There was other issues. You were hearing yourself. Yeah, that's a different issue. So the crackle is definitely induced by your 700 tab. Jesus Christ. I mean, I feel bad when I get to 100 tabs. I'm like, okay, time to clean up.

SPEAKER_05: 59:29

Yeah, I need to clean up. This session has been open for a little long. Uh-huh. But I can't just like close everything and start over. So like I have to go through and close out things.

SPEAKER_06: 59:43

I use edges grouping functions so I can close everything and then only reopen the groups that I wanted to open. Like I have a mail group, so that has all my mail accounts.

SPEAKER_05: 59:55

Yeah, I use the pen tabs for like key stuff. And yeah. And then I and I use tree tabs and all that.

SPEAKER_06: 1:00:04

I'm sure there's something that I meant to keep open so I could refer to it later. But if I haven't looked at it in a week, you know what? It's too late anyway. Screw it. I'm gonna close it down. Well, let's see here. We talked about Alex Jones, we talked about the list, talked about all that stuff. Oh, I know what it was. So you were asking about Obama. So Tulsi, Tulsi, Tulsi, I didn't mispronounce her.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:30

Oh, you're talking about the election stuff?

SPEAKER_06: 1:00:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:33

Yeah. The dude, the Georgia election, the that one county having more votes than voters.

SPEAKER_06: 1:00:40

Yep. Yep. And I'm sure that's not the only one. That's the first one that they've released the info on. Yeah. I it seems like there's a very good potential. I'm not gonna say it's gonna happen, but there's a very good potential that this is going to be a something that brings indictments. I it it really needs to.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:08

Yeah. Yeah. Like you can't let this just keep going.

SPEAKER_06: 1:01:13

No, no, and there are a number of people that are a little less loose, you know, with jumping out to things than Alex, because Alex obviously was saying this a long time ago, but there are people that are generally conservative Republican. Yeah, like like Glumbeck, exactly, that are starting to say the 2020 election was clearly stolen, and we have the proof that it was stolen. The wrong guy got inaugurated, which kind of puts into perspective, like, okay, what about all the people that were January 6th, people that ended up serving prison terms?

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:50

Or the people who Biden pardoned or the laws that he signed into effect.

SPEAKER_06: 1:01:54

Uh-huh. Yeah. I mean, there's a potential here. Now, I don't think the Supreme Court would do this wholesale, but there's at least a potential to have a bunch of the executive orders, if not all of them, but certainly a bunch of them get canceled and removed. And not just from like that's an obvious thing, but I think what needs to happen is they need to look at the consequence of these executive orders and see that there were people that as a result of them were negatively impacted financially or otherwise, and they need to be compensated. And conversely, there were people that were enriched as a result of Obama, or I keep saying Obama, uh, of Biden-era executive orders that need to have that compensation taken away from them. So I think there's a lot of stuff that could be dug through that were COVID-related and completely done by a president who was not elected. And it look, I think those of us with brains in our heads at the time of the election were going, how is this possible that Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did his first term, and a less popular candidate, Biden, got more votes than any other person in the history of the country had ever received. Like you would think that the Obama vote, which turned out a lot of people on both left and right, you know, to come out and vote, should have had that peak. And then Trump should have gotten less votes than during the Obama elections, and then certainly the same thing should have happened here because it was Trump's second term. Usually fewer people turn out to the second-term election of somebody than the first. So it just made no sense that there were that the Democrats would gain such a huge number of votes and not flip-flop votes, right? It's not like Trump's the number of votes for Trump were reduced by, let's say, two million, and then the other side gained two million, which would look like a flip-flop. No, these were just both sides got more votes, and the Democrats got way more votes compared to what they got with Hillary, who, again, historical, could have been the first female president, whatever. It's hard to believe that an old, stodgy, lifelong politician like Biden would have gotten more votes than who a woman that you know kept running on the first female president platform. So a lot of it was very fishy at the time, didn't made no sense, and we were already receiving tons of reports of improprieties from Pennsylvania, from Georgia, from Michigan, from a lot of states. And it was all just swept under the rug.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:07

And Georgia, you know, before they stopped counting the votes, Trump was leading with almost a statistically impossible lead to overcome. And you're talking about a state that was won by like, I believe, 11,000 votes.

SPEAKER_06: 1:05:25

There were a lot of hockey pucks. I remember watching the Michigan one where obviously Trump was leading, it was pretty much a done deal, it was obvious. And then every single vote that came in in the last 20 minutes of counting was a vote for Biden. 100%. He got 100% of the votes. That's literally impossible, even in a super democrat area like New York or Chicago or you know, San Francisco, it is never a hundred percent. And what they showed was basically zero new votes coming in for Trump, and every single new vote came in for Biden. Like, if you were gonna rig an election, you would never even want to do that because it makes you look guilty. But they did it and they got away with it. And so I really hope for now. So I really hope some fucking prosecutions come out of this. I mean, it's bad enough that people weren't getting prosecuted for all the Epstein stuff. It's worse, I think, that they're not getting prosecuted for this because this I know some people are gonna be not happy hearing this, but it's just reality. This, the stealing of the elections of the president, has way more end result, way more negative things as a result of it than. You know, a dozen or even say a hundred women that were doing things that they didn't want to do with Epstein. Like, I feel bad for them. I feel bad that that shit was happening. Guy was obviously a nasty, evil, you know, son of a bitch, whatever way you want to describe him. He was a bad guy. However, that impacted way fewer people than the stealing of the elections that happened in 2020. Yeah, completely agree. But there are still tons of so-called Republicans that are like, you know, never Trumpers now because Trump was covering up for Epstein. Even now they're saying this. Because Trump didn't want the truth to come out. Trump didn't want these pedophiles punished. So it's still Trump is the bad guy. And these are supposedly people that voted for him the last election. What the fuck, dude? The Republican Party is just in a very bad state right now. I think there's so much differences of opinion. This is why I think a new party has to come out. I think there has to be a new party that is made up of actual Trump supporters and not just people with an R next name, and not even just people that were Trump supporters at some point. I think that what Trump is doing right now has got a lot of people in the tizzy because he's not he's not sticking his finger up to measure the prevailing currents, the way that they'd like him to govern. He's actually sticking and doing things that he planned on doing and he wants to do. So I I just I think it it's if nothing changes with the Republican Party, there's gonna be a much lower turnout for Vance or or Rubio, whoever the next candidate is. But more importantly, there'll be a lot of people that just don't go vote, period, on the Republican side for the midterms. I mean, some of us are always gonna vote just because we're political, but there are plenty of people that see voting as an inconvenience, but they will go out and vote if they think their vote's gonna change something. But if all they're hearing from the Republican Party is squabbling and infighting, they're like, yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:14

And speaking of, everybody needs to go vote in the primary. Especially for her era, if you're in that area.

SPEAKER_06: 1:09:22

Yeah, and I don't know if we even have a single listener that's down in southern Texas in the that area that Herrera is running in. But you know, I watch his gum meme review, he's still putting those out while he's running, which is hilarious.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:36

Which is hilarious, especially considering he tackled the Virginia laws.

SPEAKER_06: 1:09:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. But he he's making a very good point is that a state that a lot of us have just seen as and assumed would be forever a conservative voting state, certainly a state with a lot of positive gun laws. I mean, Jesus, the the and I know you have a low opinion of the NRA, but the NRA headquarters is in Virginia. Like, you know, I remember going into when it first opened, I was one of the first people down the gun range for it. And it it was a it was a a symbol of pride that you know we've got somebody that is looking out for the interests of gun owners this close to DC. And that like wouldn't have been where they were because it started, didn't start in Virginia. I think it started in New York, if I remember correctly. But it it's a seeing what Virginia is, and I have a number of friends that live in Virginia, and I'm like, dude, what the hell happened? How did you guys let this get to this point?

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:44

You've got a socialist go to Virginia pretty regularly for work, so of course you do.

SPEAKER_06: 1:10:51

I have a client in the it's like the big joke always used to be that you know, this is why Maryland exists, is so that all the liberals have a place to live close to Washington, and Virginia was always the conservative state. Well, not anymore. Now there's only two liberal states that surround Washington, D.C. Virginia and Maryland.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:18

Well, I think what if Trump wants to change this, and he could, if DC took back Loudoun County, it saw the whole lot. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and he definitely should do that. So for those who don't know, Virginia was given part of their land back in Loudoun County from the District of Columbia, and that's where most of this liberal nonsense comes from. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 1:11:48

Although I I've always been of the opinion that Washington, D.C. should not be a voting area. There should be no actual residence there. It should be purely a government municipal city.

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:01

I'm fine with that.

SPEAKER_06: 1:12:03

It because certainly they could use all the land, like all the land that's currently occupied by private residences. So what I would do, and again, this would not be popular with libertarians, I'm sure, but I would do eminent domain on the entirety of Washington, D.C. I would buy properties from people, whether they want to sell them or not, just compensate them fairly based on property values, and then have zero actual residence there. You can have things like a military base or even a, you know, a civilian police force. You can sleep here while you're at work, kind of like fire stations, you know, where they have the beds in there as well. So you can have people that are out and about 24 hours a day, but there should not be anybody that lives there that has a permanent address there and then votes there. Like again, you look at all the Congress critters, you know, they could have homes in Virginia, but those are not homes they're gonna vote from. They're they're like the residence that their family lives in while they're working there, but everybody still has to vote in their actual districts. And all the support people like, well, you can't have it be where there's no population, and what about all the people that work there? They like all those jobs would be empty. No, they wouldn't. This is a retarded argument. Everybody in the surrounding areas would be coming there. The DC area has a great metro system, one of the best in the country. It's a boondoggle, it costs the sea.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:41

I wouldn't ride it these days, but you go right ahead.

SPEAKER_06: 1:13:45

I mean, it it's the best that it covers a lot of territory, dude. I'm not talking about how clean it is. But incidentally or safe. Well, or safe, for sure, for sure. But it's better than I mean, it'd be harder to make the argument that people could just go there for the day to work there if it didn't exist. My point is it exists. Now, if there's safety concerns with it, as there certainly are based on what's happened recently, that's an easy problem to solve. That's what you have a metro police force. And if they're not doing their job, that's the problem. It's not the metro itself, it's not the subway system that's the problem. The problem is you don't have because they're again, because they're controlled by local government in the DC area and not doing their job, that's the problem. It's not the fact that they have a metro system exist. The other thing I've always liked about it, and I've been on it plenty of times, just not recently. The other thing I like is it that it's very quiet and soft because they they have rubberized wheels on the trains.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:56

So it's a more of a monorail than like an actual train.

SPEAKER_06: 1:15:00

Yeah, so you don't have all the clinkety clankety noises and jostles that you do on the normal rail system, or even on the normal metro, like if you go to the metros in some of the other cities, like you know, well, New York, Chicago, etc., older systems, they're very clankety. This one is a lot quieter and softer. So they're and I mean, granted, I I literally have not been on it for I think 16 years, 17 years.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15:28

But of the US It's been since like 2010 for me.

SPEAKER_06: 1:15:36

Okay, so about the same amount of time. I think 2009 is the last time I was in DC for that. So yeah, it's I always took it to ShmooCon. I always took the Metro when I used to go out for ShmooCon up there. So it's my point is DC should be a working zone, not a living zone. It should not be at all zone for residential. We're okay, what what else were we talking before this? Because this I went on way too long in this.

SPEAKER_05: 1:16:14

Yeah, I don't I I think we've covered most of my topics.

SPEAKER_06: 1:16:18

Okay. So let's see. Uh we talked about that guy. Oh, yeah, we talked about Rubio.

SPEAKER_05: 1:16:28

Oh, I will say I made a poke last night using my Hawaiian buddies recipe, and it turned out really good. My daughter loved it. Oh, good. Yeah, and I made a shrimp scampi tonight.

SPEAKER_06: 1:16:43

So there you go. Yeah, you sent the picture of that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:16:46

Came out good. It's very good.

SPEAKER_06: 1:16:48

I'm not uh I'm not a fan of that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:16:51

You're not a fan of shrimp scampy? Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_06: 1:16:53

Nope. Never really liked that. Okay. I'm not saying yours is bad. It's just not something I like. Yeah, I I have a fairly I'm probably the pickiest on seafood of all different meat types. There's there's certain seafood I like and certain seafood I don't like. Or even then, like, you know, with shrimp, there's certain ways I like them prepared and other ways I don't. So one of the things I mentioned was uh came in through the BRICS news, is that China is signed a deal to provide energy aid to Ukraine.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:31

Yeah, which seems counterintuitive.

SPEAKER_06: 1:17:33

Which I think is hilarious. I mean, you you know, like, regardless of what the official documents say, they're basically just reselling Russian energy, whether it's uh natural gas, compressed uh CNG, whether it's oil, whatever it is, China isn't producing it. They're just repackaging it and selling it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:17:54

Well, speaking of, did you see the Russian foreign minister's comments about being open to rejoining Swift and everything?

SPEAKER_06: 1:18:02

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we could talk about that. Yeah, I think that is something that I'm surprised by, I'll tell you that. Because I thought that there the the the Briggs thing was gonna be a one-way street. Like once they get on it, they're not gonna get off of it. But seeing these comments basically saying, look, there's no there's nothing inherently to stop Russia from rejoining Swift, from using the US dollar for global transactions once again, like all of that is up for discussion in a in a resolution of the Ukraine situation.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:46

Yeah, and I think it makes a hell of a lot of sense, and you know I'm pro-Russo-American alliance. Pact.

SPEAKER_06: 1:18:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and I think I think the idea that that the US should have more short-term alliances and fewer long-term alliances. Uh, did we talk about that, or am I thinking you have a video I watched?

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:13

No, we have not.

SPEAKER_06: 1:19:14

Okay, but I guess this was in a video, but it's something that was being positioned that our founding fathers envisioned the United States as not being ingrained in like these multi-year long-term alliances.

SPEAKER_04: 1:19:30

They didn't they didn't want us in aligned with Europe at all.

SPEAKER_06: 1:19:33

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Which I think we shouldn't be. And I I've constantly posting that the the real enemy to both Russia and the US is the EU. That's what both countries need to be focusing on, not each other. But but this idea that alliances should be based on trade, not military protection. And these alliances should be fluid, meaning you don't just pick a side and and that's the only side you're gonna root for. You know, this is not sports. So this this notion that whether it's called the USSR, whether it's called Russia, or whatever it's called, these are always the designated bad guys. Like that notion would be completely inconsistent with the Founding Fathers' idea of international politics for the new country.

SPEAKER_05: 1:20:28

Uh agreed.

SPEAKER_06: 1:20:30

So alliances should be based on it what is advantageous to the United States, and that should be the predominant criteria, if not the only criteria. And long-term alliances simply based on geography that don't take into account any other aspects like uh trade or finance or raw materials or anything else, are actually contrary to the benefits of the United States. Not so even if you can argue that it made sense at one point for the United States to be a member of NATO to prevent the expansion of the Soviet Union, because that expansion would reduce trade that the United States uses with Europe. Like that's a legitimate concern. But at some point, when that is no longer the case, that alliance should not naturally weaken and ultimately dissolve because the threat that it was based on ceased to exist.

SPEAKER_05: 1:21:34

Well, NATO should have ceased to exist as soon as the USSR fell. And we've discussed this many times. Clinton should have let Russia into NATO, it would have solved a lot of problems.

SPEAKER_06: 1:21:44

Yeah. I mean, it's I if if Russia would have joined NATO, it could have displaced the UN.

SPEAKER_05: 1:21:52

Because NATO would have displaced and it could have prevented China's rise, quite frankly.

SPEAKER_06: 1:21:58

That that is true. But America at the time was actually all for China's rise because the predominant theory, and this is all official, was that the United States decided that the way that you solve the China problem is by making Chinese addicted to technology and all the all the goods that the U.S. has.

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:19

You make them wealthy and they forego their communist ways.

SPEAKER_06: 1:22:22

Exactly. You make them sufficiently enough interested in disposable income that they will do everything they can internally to prevent communism. Now, I think that that certainly has some logic to it, but the idea of that being the way that you deal with China long term doesn't make any sense because you still have an issue of not just communism, but totalitarianism. And you I don't think you can solve one without the other. Like if you have somebody like the current president or what it what what is his title in China? Is he the president? President. Yeah, I guess he is. He's he's not just the Politburo member or whatever, or head anymore. But you effectively have him there for life. That's that's very different than a communist government, which is less so totalitarian. The problem is, of course, all communist governments end up totalitarian. I don't think we have a single example of one that hasn't, at least not one that I'm aware of. But I don't think that um you can solve the problem of communism without also solving the problem of totalitarianism. So I guess we'll see what happens in Venezuela, right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:46

I I well, so Venezuela has sold over a billion dollars worth of oil already. So I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:23:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:58

Um which by the way, this cuts out Canada. You recognize that, right?

SPEAKER_06: 1:24:03

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and that somebody had a video on a few weeks back, some Canadian politician talking about how screwed Canada is if the United States actually goes forward with its plans for Venezuela, because Canada cannot compete on price with Venezuelan oil. And so it was very good for Canada that Venezuela went the way of socialism.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:30

Yes, and that's gone now.

SPEAKER_06: 1:24:32

Yeah. And that that also stops all new construction in Canada, and it forces Canada to look for other markets and even potentially start selling at a loss.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:43

Well, and Canada doesn't have a sovereign wealth fund, and they can't sell to other markets because they don't have a transport mechanism because the liberals will not allow them to build pipelines.

SPEAKER_06: 1:24:53

No, but they could sell to China using Chinese ships.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:57

How are they gonna get there?

SPEAKER_06: 1:24:59

Through the ocean? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:01

But but how is it gonna go from Alberta to British Columbia?

SPEAKER_06: 1:25:06

And then it's not yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:08

Like that that that infrastructure doesn't exist. Doesn't exist, is my point.

SPEAKER_06: 1:25:11

That's exactly. Yeah, Canada has just assumed the United States is gonna be buying its oil forever. That's very true. So they are kind of screwed. I haven't seen anything new on the Alberta front, but I'm certainly keeping my favorite.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:29

Well, they haven't they haven't a referent the referendum is happening this fall. So it's this fall.

SPEAKER_06: 1:25:36

Okay, so we won't really know until then.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:38

So they've got the signatures for the referendum that's been validated, done. It should be happening. Their premier is pretty damn adamant that Alberta should be its own sovereign country, and if not, the I mean, she's flat out said that if not, they would rather be an American state than a Canadian state at this point.

SPEAKER_06: 1:26:04

Yeah. And I think that's the sentimental a lot of people there. They're tired of subsidizing the rest of Canada and then being taxed for it. Like they're the producers, and I don't know, man. I the my disappointment in Canada is just how much effort it takes before the Canadian people actually stand up for something. Well, like, come on, guys. They could have joined us in 1776. Well, but even aside from that, just you know, when they when Canada had their massive gun restrictions kick in, I'm I'm disappointed that some of the Canadian provinces didn't, like Manitoba and and Alberta, didn't at that time push back and say, you know what, if this happens, we're leaving. Because those, you know, they're they still, when I was growing up, the Canadian story was all about the mountain man. It was all about those guys that went off beaver hunting, beaver trapping, up in the northern territories, or not even. I mean, you don't have to go very far north in Canada to be in frickin' just land with zero population. You just go about 300 miles north of the border. Because most of the population of Canada is within 100 miles of the US border. So you go 300 miles aisle, and it's it's like what'd you say, 70%?

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:38

70 miles of the border, like vast, vast majority.

SPEAKER_06: 1:27:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:42

They're they're clinging to the American border for warmth.

SPEAKER_06: 1:27:46

Yeah, exactly. Now, the the most northern Canadian city, actually, that's not even true. I was gonna say the most northern one I've been to is Winnipeg, which is about I think 100 miles north of the border.

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:58

But I think technically I've been lived in Edmonton for a bit.

SPEAKER_06: 1:28:01

Yeah, I I've been further north, kinda. I've been to the very northern edge of I think it's St. Edwards Island. It's the island off the coast, the the west coast of Canada. I don't even want to look it up. I'm too lazy. But one year I did a trip where I took ferry to that island with a car. I I flew into Seattle, obviously.

SPEAKER_05: 1:28:28

And then to Vancouver?

SPEAKER_06: 1:28:31

Well, out of no, it's not Vancouver. Oh, the island of Vancouver?

SPEAKER_02: 1:28:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 1:28:36

Oh, yeah, maybe it is Vancouver Island. Maybe you're right. Maybe it's not saying it's but basically just drive as far north as the roads will take me up that. Up that island. So you and that was definitely further north than Winnipeg is. But it's also completely, you know, wild and beautiful. It's a beautiful, beautiful place. Gets tons of rain and so everything is lush and green, but cold. But very pretty. I don't know. And and I the the one city on there, I uh that is very pretty is shit. God damn it. It sucks getting old, dude. My memories. I didn't take my B12. I I need to buy some. I'm out of it right now. So uh okay, I'm gonna pull up a frickin' map. Jesus, dude. Because now it's driving me nuts because I can't remember what the hell this place is called. So it's Victoria. Yeah. Victoria, British Columbia. So it's a little it's the the the city, town, whatever you want to call it, on the southern tip of Vancouver Island. And it is a basically a European city in terms of architecture in the Americas. It's a really cool place because it's a very British city, it's very European looking. Even the food and stuff there is very European. So it's kind of neat to be able to just go take a ferry from Seattle, and especially a high-speed ferry.

SPEAKER_05: 1:30:22

And then the place I've been in Canada is Vancouver.

SPEAKER_06: 1:30:26

Vancouver City, the actual city? Yeah. Which I've never been to. I've been to Seattle like probably 80 times. That makes sense. Because I think what it's well known for is its drug use and alcohol. Yep. And so I've just never made it to Victoria. Never had an interest of or not Victoria, never made it to Vancouver. Vancouver. Never had an interest in it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:30:56

Well, it was the closest big city for us to go drink at like it totally makes sense.

SPEAKER_06: 1:31:01

But my dad, as I mentioned before, I think on a podcast, had a sailboat. And so I've actually sailed a lot of the islands around Vancouver Island. San Juan's stop at Friday Harbor and Sydney and the Naimo and all these places that are on the either American side or the Canadian side of the islands, you know, going whale watching, all that good stuff out there. So it is a super pretty location. I just, you know, I wish it wasn't full of socialists.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:36

Yeah. That's like that's you know, when you get out of like Vancouver, British Columbia. It's like it's like if you look at Oregon without Portland, you know, and Eugene, it's totally different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 1:32:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:00

And I it's like it's like Washington without Seattle.

SPEAKER_06: 1:32:06

Yeah. Yeah, it it's when I worked in Portland, I did get out to the coast of Oregon a few times. And that is also very beautiful. I mean, it's like exactly what you would think. It's halfway climate-wise between Northern California coast and Washington State coastline. So it's a little warmer.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:30

So we used to go fishing when I was a kid out of Depot Bay. Have you ever looked at Depot Bay? I think so, yeah. You have to time going in and out of the bay with the waves so you can clear the rocks. That's right. Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_06: 1:32:49

Yeah. Yeah, it's uh it is a very pretty area. That whole West Coast area is I I've I've driven from Newport Newport, Oregon, up to Astoria. I did that drive, and then I've driven from Portland all the way through the Olympic Mountains all the way to Port Angeles on the northern coast of the US. And that's where you drive by Mount St. Helens and all that stuff. It's and I've in fact I've done it in a snowstorm, which was crazy. I was like, you know, I I it was where you drive around the the police barriers that say road closed, and you just keep going.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:43

So I don't know if I did we talk about my hike on the last podcast?

SPEAKER_06: 1:33:48

No, where'd you hike? Oh yeah, you went up on that hill in Hawaii. Diamond Head. Diamond Head, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you said you really enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:56

I did. It was gorgeous.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:59

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:00

Oh man, I I've been up since four.

SPEAKER_06: 1:34:04

So we're gonna wrap things up. No, well, that's all right. I'll make it a little bit a little shorter. I think we covered all the big I think we did.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:13

I think the only thing we really haven't talked about was Ocasio Cortez.

SPEAKER_06: 1:34:18

Oh, being in the on the list, or what what else about her?

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:21

No, her being at the same meeting that Rubio was at.

SPEAKER_06: 1:34:25

What was she doing there?

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:27

Good question, because she's fucking running for president. That's why. Jesus.

SPEAKER_06: 1:34:31

That would be the biggest gift the Republicans could get, by the way.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:35

Well, she even she was asked, what was she asked? Oh my god. I I'm trying to remember the exact statement. She was asked something about Ukraine or some foreign policy thing, and it's like a three-minute mumble. Like you remember the you remember the the beauty contestant from South Carolina or whatever that where she and such and so on the Iraq, you know, going off. It sounded like that.

SPEAKER_06: 1:35:04

Like it was more like Kamala Harris, yeah. You Ukraine is a place, it's a country, and there are countries, other countries that are next to this country, and they're all in a close territory to each other. It's like literally saying nothing, you know nothing about the location, you just heard the term once. Yeah, and I it's she is about the IQ of Kamala Harris, so this is what makes it hilarious is that if the Democrats keep pushing her into leadership, it's literally like the biggest gift that they could give to the Republicans.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:39

She is attractive though.

SPEAKER_06: 1:35:41

She was more attractive when she was just out of college. She's getting less and less attractive by the day, getting to be more of the stereotypical fat ass Latina, fat ass big mouth. And them socialist titties, though. It is my god, titties are so cheap to get, man. You literally take any anybody and$10,000 and you got great tits. Yeah, but I don't the fake ones just yeah. Yeah, I tend to agree. I mean, I I prefer a real, but I also don't like the huge tits the way you do. Like to me, a a C cup is perfectly fine, and a D is a bordering too big. And you'd probably just start at a D. Up from there. My mouth shut. Uh-huh. Well, I know you well enough, man. So, yeah, I I just uh now I also don't understand women that do breast reductions. That seems counterproductive to me, but it's like my dick's too big. I think I'll shrink it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:49

Okay. Said no man ever.

SPEAKER_06: 1:36:51

Yeah, it exactly. The man with the 20-inch penis has never said that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:57

Hey, you don't know me.

SPEAKER_06: 1:37:00

Yeah, I well, I know you don't have a 20-inch penis. Anyway, the the point is that what is the point? Why are we taking out talking about AC? Oh, because you said she went to the same interview. So there's is there a video? I should send me a video link. Because I would enjoy I would enjoy checking that out for sure.

SPEAKER_05: 1:37:23

One of the funniest memes I've seen about her lately is her and Zoram Mandani in bed together, and it's you know, the meme her saying, I bet he's thinking about other girls. And his caption is, I wish you looked more like a goat instead of a donkey.

SPEAKER_06: 1:37:40

Oh god, that is great. That is hilarious. Yeah, no, that's true. And then you saw the thing I I I posted about French parliament voting to allow not non-EU citizens to vote and run for office in France. No. And yeah, yeah, that's a thing. That was from February 6th.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:01

And that is you look at that, you look at what the US defending Taiwan, by the way, is what she was talking about being asked about.

SPEAKER_06: 1:38:11

And you know, what the what's happening in Spain where they've basically done a Biden to open the floodgates.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:19

And uh gave them permanent residency.

SPEAKER_06: 1:38:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:23

So I I think much of Europe is lost.

SPEAKER_06: 1:38:27

Yeah, that's that's the impression I'm coming to. Is like Europe is borderline. I think it'll be a very difficult road for the UK. They've gone way too long and too far arresting the wrong people. They've tolerated 30,000 under 18 girls being raped in the UK. They've tolerated that. It's insane. I mean, we're we're complaining about Epstein with like 75 to 80 women. They've allowed 30,000 girls to be raped. And why? Because they don't want to seem like they're anti-Islam. It's like I I would say that's not just evil. That's a a religion of sacrifice to some nasty shit.

SPEAKER_05: 1:39:13

The people who gave Tommy Robinson shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:17

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05: 1:39:18

Like Tommy Robinson has his issues, but I've always liked Tommy Robinson. He has been dead on on the grooming gangs for a long fucking time.

SPEAKER_06: 1:39:29

Yeah, I I don't know. I haven't run across any negatives with Tenny Robinson. Everything I've seen makes total sense. He's a blue-collar working kind of dude, so he speaks very plainly.

SPEAKER_05: 1:39:40

He's a hooligan, but yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 1:39:42

Well, but you know, I mean, what's a hooligan? Like, if you're talking about somebody that damages property at a football game, I don't give a shit. Whatever. Who cares? That doesn't affect somebody's morality. That's just, you know, jumping into the gangtility that that a lot of sports have. They're just taking it to the next extreme. But I don't see him like doing shit like, well, obviously not raping anybody, but even like you know, petty theft or criminal behavior that actually has a victim other than the mega corporation. So I don't know. Maybe I just haven't seen those, and there are some in his background, but everything I've seen from Tommy, he comes across as a very likable guy to me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:40:26

I I think he's had some criminal background.

SPEAKER_06: 1:40:29

Well, but again, there's criminal and then there's criminal. There are plenty of people that have felonies in their background that when you talk to them, you realize they're better than the politicians out there. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:40:40

And again, felony shouldn't like once you've paid your debt to society, you've paid your debts to society.

SPEAKER_06: 1:40:46

There's a company that I came in to work for for a while where every owner of the company had a felony in his background. Interesting. And it was it was kind of like a big joke, is like, well, if you're gonna stay working here, I mean, you kind of need to go get your felony. Otherwise, you're not gonna be part of the business.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:04

I like guns too much.

SPEAKER_06: 1:41:06

Yeah, yeah, I know, right? Exactly.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:09

Did you see Nick Freitas' compromise on immigration?

SPEAKER_06: 1:41:14

No, I don't think I saw it, no.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:16

So he had a hilarious half-joking response. If you've been here for 10 years, you uh you came in illegally, but you haven't committed any other crimes, yeah, then that's fine. You can stay, but a blue-haired white woman has to leave.

SPEAKER_06: 1:41:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:37

I thought that was pretty good.

SPEAKER_06: 1:41:39

Yeah, no, that's good. I I've been just posting the thing that I think I first brought up on our podcast here, which is I think the simple solution to legal immigration, which I think we need to tighten up legal immigration big time. We need to get rid of the H1B loop hole. We need to do a lot of things to fix it. But my solution for legal immigration is very straightforward. We right now have a American knowledge, knowledge about America test that is given to people applying for citizenship. I just want to take that test as is and use that as part of the application for granting non-tourist visas to the United States. Whether it's a student visa or whether it's a permanent resident visa or whether it's a business-related visa, you have to pass that test before you're given a visa to the US. You can come here as a tourist and stay for three months. That's fine. But anything that is a non-tourist visa has to include an American history and cultural test. And that what that does is it basically is a great filter for filtering people that have an interest in, a knowledge of, and a support of American history and culture. If you go to the trouble of learning more about America, because they've done plenty of tests, the average American will fail this test. The average American does not remember anything from junior high or high school if they even were in a class that learned this stuff. They can't name the capitals of 50 states. Obviously, they don't have 50 questions on that test, but they will have a few random questions for state capitals. So you got to memorize all 50 because you don't know which state is going to get asked on the test. So learning about American history, American culture is an important part of being allowed to come into America. It is a privilege for anybody from the rest of the world to come into America for something other than tourism. And we need to bring that feeling back that it is a privilege, that it's not a right, it's not something that's going to get granted willy-nilly.

SPEAKER_05: 1:43:57

Well, I I think we likely will. I would happen. I think if we end up with another Republican term after Trump, the odds of a immigration moratorium are getting pretty high with the way everybody feels about it right now.

SPEAKER_06: 1:44:15

Yeah, I I think it it really should happen. It's the the best solution here. And Trump's already got the other alternative for this, which is if you want to pay a million dollars for a gold card visa, that's okay, fine. You don't have to learn anything about the country because guess what? You already figured out how to be a capitalist. Right. So you're okay here as well. Yeah, you're in. But for anybody else, there's gotta be a much higher gate for legal. The illegals, and this is this is more of me like being, you know, very more drastic than is realistic, but I'd just say it's open season, man. I I think any American that shoots an illegal American should not be charged at all.

SPEAKER_05: 1:45:04

So my dad's solution to the border, so the border crisis was basically put up, have a hundred-yard-wide dead zone, put up deer stands every so often, and have rednecks pay to go sit down there. And if you make it across the the a hundred yards, then you can stay.

SPEAKER_06: 1:45:26

So all the good runners, the the ones that can go left and right and jive back and forth will make it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:32

All right.

SPEAKER_06: 1:45:34

I yeah, I just think that I will make a distinction that illegals do not have the same rights as Americans.

SPEAKER_05: 1:45:43

And so they certainly shouldn't. But I don't know that I would declare open season. I would.

SPEAKER_06: 1:45:52

I'm sure. Because what the hell are you doing here? I mean, if we already have open season for illegals inside your own house, right? At least in our state.

SPEAKER_05: 1:46:03

Kind of.

SPEAKER_06: 1:46:08

They're gonna they're gonna say hello to my little friend.

SPEAKER_05: 1:46:15

Well, anyway, it's because how are you gonna know someone's an illegal and in Well that's the point, right?

SPEAKER_06: 1:46:21

Is the the the pushback from this is don't just shoot random people assuming they're illegal. Right? But if you happen to shoot somebody and whether you kill them or not, and they turn out to be an illegal, that there should be an automatic no charges for you for that. No American citizen should ever have to be in court, and far less serve a prison sentence, but they shouldn't even have to be in court for any harm caused to a non-citizen. So that's in my mind, that fixes so many problems. Because who the hell is going to want to be an illegal in the United States with rules like that?

SPEAKER_05: 1:47:11

Well, I mean, it's just gonna bring back a more violent time, Gene, but Which is what we need.

SPEAKER_06: 1:47:17

Because you know what more violent times do. Create hard men. And what does that do? Create good times. Mm-hmm. Exactly. So it gets us back to where we need to be.

SPEAKER_02: 1:47:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_06: 1:47:33

And all these idiots in Minnesota, all the liberals now learning about guns, and how, you know, we need to start pushing back on all the illegal ice stuff with guns. I mean I'm glad they're finally coming around to the side of the gun debate, but at the same time, it's like, dude, you you know, your your mouth is writing checks that your body can't cash.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:48:05

So they're trying to, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_06: 1:48:08

Yeah. So I think there's a natural balance here. And between getting more asylums, between opening up the or changing laws enough to where you're not going to be in trouble for shooting somebody illegal, like all these changes have positive results that utilize more potential violence, but create much greater consequences for actually being an idiot. Alright. Well, I've done my my spiel here, Ben. I know what you're falling asleep. I've done my rant, and let's wrap it up. We'll start back on the next side. And hopefully uh people are happy in the fact that we even did a podcast while you were traveling. We didn't skip a week.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:49

We yeah, we we got it in. It was a little late, but we got it in. A little bit.

SPEAKER_06: 1:48:53

And stay tuned for that song that I mentioned earlier in the episode.

SPEAKER_00: 1:50:47

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