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153 From Prince Andrew To RAM Prices: Power, Tech, And Geopolitics

Gene and Ben Season 2026 Episode 153

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Power rarely changes hands with a headline; it shows up in who can move planes, money, and minds. We open with the shock factor—Prince Andrew’s arrest—and ask what an elite takedown actually means for accountability, then pivot to the airport drama around Tucker Carlson’s “detainment” claim and why the cameras tell a different story. From there, we map how influence cash travels, whether through Qatar’s media ties or Italy’s surprise shift on Ukraine aid and borders, and how a rumored US–Russia economic reset could freeze a bloody stalemate in the only language that matters: incentives.

Markets and tech mirror the tension. RAM crossing rifle prices isn’t just a meme; it’s a window into data-center demand, supply kinks, and how to think about timing when volatility spikes. We break down a clean Ford trade, the ethics of holding media giants you dislike, and the contractor shakeups that follow when governments yank the oxygen from conflict budgets. Meanwhile, a spate of viral “robot soldier” clips remind us that fear is easy to synthesize and harder to build; real capability tends to hide in logistics, autonomy, and drones rather than stunt choreography.

Across the UK, Reform energy builds fast, celebrity lights hover over Jeremy Clarkson, and the monarchy’s cost-benefit meets a restless public. At home, we tighten the lens on sovereignty at human scale: Pi-hole wins, DNS hygiene, and why gray-market streaming boxes are a backdoor you’re paying to install. Scale that up to global bases and overflight rights, and you find the same truth: if someone else owns the outlet, your power is rented.

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SPEAKER_00:

You're joking, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Howdy Ben, how are you today? Ohdy Gene, I'm doing good. What's going on? Well, they got him. Who got who? Prince Andrew. Oh, I thought you meant Tucker. Oh, well, that too. But no, Prince Andrew, you know, they arrested him.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, which is, I don't think they're supposed to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, his kingliness had already stripped him of his title, so he didn't have a lot of the protections. Like he was Mountbatten, right? He wasn't even a Windsor anymore. So he got stripped and they arrested him.

SPEAKER_00:

I guess.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. He so that's one elite going down for the Epstein Files.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, I don't really give a shit. He's British. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

If I were if I were Bill Gates, I would be very nervous.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Bill Gates has got to be.

SPEAKER_00:

Bill Gates might never come back to the US again.

SPEAKER_01:

Where is he right now?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. I'm assuming he's not here.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. I don't know. I wouldn't assume that.

SPEAKER_00:

But well, he does travel quite a bit in general. So.

SPEAKER_01:

Anyway, uh, what is Bill Gates doing today?

SPEAKER_00:

He's in India right now.

SPEAKER_01:

He is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, there you go. I wonder if he's ever coming back. I don't know. I I might consider not given, you know, royalty.

SPEAKER_00:

He's an AI summit in India. Yeah. So mentioned Tucker. Tucker got his pianies in the knot when he flew into the Ben Gurion Airport in Israel to have a I don't know how long. It's uh we we still haven't found out how long their conversation supposedly was, but basically to meet with Mike Huckabee, who is the ambassador from the US to Israel.

SPEAKER_01:

Former ambassador.

SPEAKER_00:

I thought he's the current. I don't think so. Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure he's the current. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Continue your story.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So yeah, he's the current. So Tucker never left the airport. Took a cell fiend, flew in on his jet. He's got a private jet. You know, Katari Money buys a lot of things. And had this meeting with Huckabee, and I got back on his jet and left. And then posted a uh tweet that said, Me and my team were detained in Israel.

SPEAKER_01:

Are you disputing that allegation?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I am. Because he was not detained whatsoever in Israel. Luckily, we have about 14 cameras worth of footage from the airport showing exactly what the interactions were. So during his alleged detainment, he was taking selfies with people at the airport.

SPEAKER_01:

Wait, so why do you think he just you think he just straight out lied? Yeah. Why would he do that?

SPEAKER_00:

I think Tucker's been look, first of all, what's been Tucker's job for his entire life?

SPEAKER_01:

News.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean well, but more specifically to read a teleprompter. Sure. To say what other people tell him to say. Currently, and for the last few years, he's been employed by Qatar to the tune of seven figures. Strike that, eight figures at this point. And he will say what they tell him to say. I think it's pretty straightforward. So I mean it's it's definitely it's they're making him look stupid at this point. Not just weird, because you know, saying pro-Nazi stuff's just kind of weird, but actually lying about something that there's video of just makes you look dumb. So I think uh I I made a prediction earlier today that I think Qatar's probably gonna let them go within a yeah. They're gonna be not seeing any return on their investment anymore. They're gonna find somebody new up and coming, and then Tucker will get wrapped up. And I think when that happens, you will see a very distinct change in Tucker's rhetoric.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, we'll see. We'll see when if Qatar even exists in a year or so.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, you know, inshallah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So when when the story broke, uh from Marjorie Taylor Green is who I saw at first.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, and anyway, I sent it to you. I don't know if you noticed on her little chat.

SPEAKER_00:

I did not, but I think I I probably replied to it right about the same time you saw it. I saw it pop up. And yeah, I said, you know, Nazi supporter, anti-Trumper bashing Israel. No, you don't say. So yeah, it's par for the course. Yeah. I mean, at this point, she's been on more episodes of the Young Turks than any conservative show.

SPEAKER_01:

Anyway, I was expecting you to be more enthused about the Epstein arrest, but you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Nah, I I, you know, let's arrest somebody that's an actual surprise. Like, how long have we known about Andrew? He was already he already testified. He talked about how he doesn't sweat, and therefore it couldn't have been him. Because the girl described a sweaty old man. And he's a lizard. Lizards doesn't sweat. According to him. It's not me talking, it's him talking.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So I mean, sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, it will be interesting to see if he is actually convicted.

SPEAKER_00:

I I just don't think it matters a whole lot. There's another guy in the UK government that was also arrested. There's another person that was questioned out of the Netherlands. There are information, there is getting to be some traction on this, but it's all you know, it's not gonna satisfy anybody that thinks that Trump is the one that's slowing the train down. They they need to see a Bill Gates arrest just to move the needle. I mean, Prince Andrew's pretty fucking big, dude. No one gives a shit about British people, dude. Oh, I disagree with that. I well, I don't disagree with myself on that at all. I wouldn't imagine that you would. Because seriously, nobody cares about British royalty. I mean, they care about them in the sense of like there's a bunch of women that enjoy watching the pageantry. But, you know, nobody really likes him. I thought back in the day, like back in the 80s, I thought his wife was hot.

SPEAKER_01:

But don't even know who his wife was.

SPEAKER_00:

Fergie. Um Fergie. The singer? No, the ex-wife of the prince. I've why would I know who that is? I forget her first name, something Ferguson.

SPEAKER_01:

But And when I think of Fergie, there's a singer that that's what comes to mind.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know who that is. But she had two kids with them, Eugenia and uh what's the other one's name? Oh, I can't remember the other one's name. That both got married now, so they're all good. Because that was a big thing. It's just like if he gets ousted, does that mean his ex-family gets cut off from the money? Probably. It sounds like it's all good. No.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, they're taking care of him.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they were they were always like, you know, the cousins, not the actual royal branch.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So like Fergie was never very attractive. I think she was when they first got married. We're talking about two different people, but boy, has she aged poorly. Oh, yeah, this one did as well. Just just type in Fergie and go to Google Images.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Like this then and now is just well, I get Sarah Ferguson coming up on my Bergie search.

SPEAKER_01:

Alright, well. That that is not who uh Flam chick? IE.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's how that one was as well. Yeah, she's not attractive.

SPEAKER_01:

No. But Jesus. Gotn't even worse. Anyway. Alright, so his family's still getting money then. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I mean, they're part of the whole thing. The deal.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I mean, maybe the deal was to he gets his head, you know, he loses his head, but there's a his wedding picture.

SPEAKER_00:

That's Fergie with with him on there when they got married.

SPEAKER_03:

A redhead.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Eh.

SPEAKER_01:

She's aged poorly.

SPEAKER_00:

She very much aged poorly, yes. But she was an embarrassment for the royal family because after they got divorced, because he was, you know, basically a womanizer a year after they got married. Shockers, right? She was complaining about not having money. And so she started she came to America. And I don't know if she moved or was just, you know, here for a long time on a visiting visa or whatever. But either way, she did all the talk show circuits, and they didn't like that. And then she started doing infomercials.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, you know, for tanning lotion and stuff, and just oh, they hated that. I think that's what got them to give her more money. Just to get her off American television. Yeah. But yeah, his kids are Beatrice and Eugenie. Or Eugenia.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Anyway. Kind of horse face looking chicks. What? I'm just glad he got arrested. I hope it goes. Yeah. Yeah. Did you did you see the post on Twitter that no, no, no. It's comparing the price of a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 with buying 64 gigs of RAM.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh. So let me guess the RAM's more expensive now.

SPEAKER_01:

The RAM's almost double. Yeah, I believe it. So$5.99 for the rifle and it's$9.49 for the RAM.$9.49, my God. For 64 gigs.

SPEAKER_00:

That is insane. I mean, that's in fact, I think that's literally the yeah, that is. I'm looking at it right now through the thing. That is literally the RAM I have in mine. I've got 64 gigs. I think I paid. I want to pay, I want to say I paid like 200 bucks a stick. Right around there.

SPEAKER_01:

Like well, the three years ago, this RAM shortages and GPU shortages for data centers that haven't been built. Like it's someone's gonna get stuck holding a big bag, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

So my theory on this has been that, and it you know, I've historically have said Japan because that's we used to make RAM back in the olden days, but it's really China, Japan, it's uh the whole Asian subcontinent there, the the whole Asian, or I guess the full continent. Is there seems to be a Godzilla attack every five years? And regardless of what the official name of the news is for why ramp prices shoot way up, it's is literally something that happens on the five-year cycle.

SPEAKER_01:

Every five years one while they're already inflated.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, but like every five years, there's something that always like, oh no, ramp price is going through the roof. Usually lasts about a year, and then the prices go back down to where they were previous to that, you know, more reasonable levels.

SPEAKER_01:

So you're telling me I should wait on my RAM upgrade?

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, I'm telling you you make plenty of money, you can afford it. But it will go down. I mean, there's no two ways about it. It's just, you know, it'll happen. Holy cow, did I time that right or what? Wow. What I just glanced at my at the Ford stock. Wow. I can't believe I timed it.

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_00:

A glance at my Ford stock.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Or the ticker, not the stock of the ticker for Ford. So I I think I sent you the thing. Did I send you the my graph at all for Ford or not? No. Remember, we don't give any financial advice here, but about nine months ago, Ford was at about 9.50. And I had analyzed a bunch of different stocks.

SPEAKER_01:

$9.50 a stock.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Okay. And I thought, you know, this is this is absolutely gonna go up. So I bought some Ford stock, and it has basically been going up continuously until last week. So I sold it at$14, bought it at nine and a half, sold at 14. That's about a 50% profit. It's about like 47% profit in nine months. And today it closed at$13.78. So it's on the way back down. So I timed this bitch perfectly. I bought it at its cheapest and sold it at its peak. Well, congratulations, Gene.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Now, did you do any volume though?

SPEAKER_00:

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01:

Like, was this a$1,000 purchase, a$10,000 purchase?

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, no. This is what I'm living on right now, is the profit from that, basically. I did pretty good. I had three different stocks that I bought that all did over 40% in less than a year. You know, just buying individual stocks.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I've got I've got a money market account myself.

SPEAKER_00:

What do you what are you holding?

SPEAKER_01:

I've Did you sell anything recently? Not recently. I have Disney that has Disney.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my god. Worst company on the planet.

SPEAKER_01:

Not but very profitable. So like I have been buying Disney for years, and I still have some of my original shares when my uncle was teaching me about the stock market, and I bought it because I've never sold any of it. And that has split like six times and it's above the original purchase price by a lot. You gotta remember, Disney owns ESPN and all that. So like it's it's I don't know, it's like having stock in Hitler though.

SPEAKER_00:

I just I I just would not be comfortable.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I've owned IBM before. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and then what the hell? What I'm what I shouldn't talk. I've I've got over a million rubles, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So do you want to go to UK next or where? Sure. Let's do it. So Rupert Lowe, it looks like did you watch the interview I sent? I watched like two minutes. Okay, well, it apparently Clarkson.

SPEAKER_00:

Very boring interview, and I'll I'll tell you my main complaint after you get done talking about it.

SPEAKER_01:

Apparently, him and Clarkston are tight and live fairly close together. And it looks like Clarkston is going to be running as a candidate for parliament.

SPEAKER_00:

Definitely not what he said. Huh? That is definitely not what he said in the interview. Hold on.

SPEAKER_01:

The interview, he talked about wanting it. Oh my god. You've got to get there, but if you only read listened to two minutes.

SPEAKER_00:

I watched the last two minutes of it where he says, Boy, nothing would make me happier if Clarkson were to run for office. Correct. Well, he didn't, so all right.

SPEAKER_01:

Go ahead. What bugged you about it? I'm trying to say something, but okay.

SPEAKER_00:

What bugged me about it is you've got this reform party that wants to bring Britain out of its shit that they're in right now. In this interview, you had one really old dude, and by old I mean like way older than me, interviewing another really old dude. And they're talking about how Clarkson, who's I think 70 at this point, could be a good candidate. They need some young blood with the same ideas, right? But just they need like uh Nick Fuente's equivalent out there. Okay. Because old guys aren't gonna do this. Um they don't know. If you listen to this guy without the volume turned on, you just watch, you know, his mannerisms characteristic, he's very not electable.

SPEAKER_01:

He's not a Trump-looking guy, he's not a he doesn't have the sort of I mean Reform UK has gotten uh in like 48 hours, like 60,000 members.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, that's like not even a small city in the U.S.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, but it's a significant party in Great Britain. Like they're gonna be over a hundred thousand and they're already above the lib dems. So, like you've got to look at party membership and look at how quickly they've gotten there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I mean, this is all good stuff. I'm all for it happening. I'm just saying I am doubtful as to a few stodgy old dudes are gonna convince the rest of the country to vote their way. I okay. I don't know. I mean, who's the football Hulgan guy? Like that guy's way better. Tommy Robinson. Yeah, Tommy Robinson, still not that young. I think he's about your age. Yeah, probably a little older. Maybe even older, yeah. But closer, right? I I just who in the UK, in their twenties or even thirties, is gonna see this guy as the leader of his lot.

SPEAKER_01:

I would already I I he's saying the quiet part out loud. He's saying the right things. And by the way, where I was going, yeah, was what leads into Clarkson potentially doing this and it looking like he's going to, is because Clarkson went out very recently and railed against Farage and Farage's party that they will solve nothing. So I would expect a week or so to go by and then hear formally what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, and Clarkson has a huge draw because he was on television. So he's like uh Zelensky or Trump. He's still on television. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Clarkson's farm. Mm-hmm. Well, was is either way, he's got an audience. He's got people that you know, he's famous with. So he's got the factor that Trump has, he's got the factor that I don't know, just famous people have that they bring to the table is that they don't have to sell themselves, they just have to sell their ideas, right? Politically. Whereas nobody's coming in, they have to sell both their ideas and themselves as the appropriate candidate. To bring those ideas forward. So getting Jeremy Clarkson, I think, would be a huge win, but they need some young blood in there as well. They need somebody that looks like is a gonna be representing the younger generation in all of this.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and let's see who all they assemble as their coalition here. Like let's see who they put forward and run. Because he's said that he's not going after career politicians. He doesn't want career politicians. He wants professionals, working class to go in and run on the for this party. So I think you're gonna see a lot of new blood come in. And I think that they have a very good chance of taking parliament if the last few days are any indication. I mean, this is huge.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, when are their elections?

SPEAKER_01:

They haven't been called yet, but that's the point.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep. Because you have to remember the UK is parliamentary and they have to call them at least once every 10 years, but they anyway, there's a whole bullshit thing.

SPEAKER_00:

I think the queen or the king, I guess, these days can also call it as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Potentially, I don't know. I don't know if they can call or if they can dissolve the government, and then the government has to be.

SPEAKER_01:

They can certainly dissolve parliament and force a new parliament.

SPEAKER_00:

Which for for I think, at least the way I understand it, is mainly for a fear of having an anti monarch, monarch kind of party really prop up, they they have been very cautiously to not interfere with politics. For lack, you know, because they're afraid if they if they do that, even if it's for a majority of the people, some group of people will say, see, there you go. There these unelected people are now messing with our system of government, and it's going to reinforce the attempts to kick them out.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I mean, you there should already be the the Windsor's need to be gone and not a thing.

SPEAKER_00:

I've always thought that a very smart move for Charles would be to be the last king of England. Like to essentially, however long, a year, a few years, whatever, you know, but certainly prior to him finishing his reign to come out for the removal of the monarchy, and just basically said, you know, we've we've done it long enough, it's time to really be in the 21st century, and I won't I will do whatever I can to support the uh wrapping up of the monarchy. Because then he gets to both screw his kid, who he hates, and he gets to be in the history books forever as the last king of England. So I don't know. I I think Ben might be having phone issues or internet issues again here, guys. But my take is that the British monarchy, I think at best, provides a level of tourism funding that would otherwise be lower in the UK. But that's about it. I don't know what else they bring to the table.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I mean, even the tourism funding you could make the argument, hey, based off of whatever, we'll self-fund or something at the very least, but I don't think there's any way he's gonna do that.

SPEAKER_00:

He's not gonna be the last king? I don't think so, no. I would totally do it if I was him. I think that'd be a way to, you know, immortalize myself in the history books.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but it means letting go of power.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you do it basically when you're, you know, you're basically done.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I mean not dead necessarily, but you don't want your you know, son to become king. Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, and he he he does not like his kid. Or I should say it's mutual. His kid does not like Charles's all the stuff he's been doing and spending money on.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know. We will we'll have to see. I I really don't see any way of him stepping down, but yeah, you never know.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, if he doesn't do it, there's a good chance his kid will do it before he's dead.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, maybe. I think that's more likely for the younger generation, but Charles is pretty old. So you sent me the AI fake Chinese fighting robots.

SPEAKER_00:

Apparently it's not AI. Uh-huh. It says right on the video, not AI.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00:

So I I think it's real. Now, my it is funny as hell, but I love how the robots are bringing the the scopes, the sights of the rifles up.

SPEAKER_01:

Like scope sights. So implausible. Like, why would their guns have sights at all? Right? I mean, you would think that why would you have carrying a a non-built-in gun, right? Why would they have a like it's if this is real, then I have no worries about fighting China, because that's fucking dumb.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I I think I think this is definitely playing into the whole China is the trade federation in in Star Wars thing. Yeah, well, anyway, it it's obviously fake, dude. Come on. I thought it was funny. You know, you never know. You never know. But I wonder if they're as accurate as the uh the stormtroopers.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah, very well.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, right there it's video is not AI. But people are like, oh it's AI. Well, no shit. But it why why why would why would you ever imagine a battlefield robot to be a have to be humanoid? But even if you want a humanoid robot, right, why wouldn't you just build in make it more like a mech, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And no, it is ridiculous, obviously. But the the other thing is, did you notice that they're using the the A1s?

SPEAKER_01:

The A1 rifles? Yeah, well, it's not an A1, that's a Chinese whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it's the Chinese A1. That's that's the model number in China for it. It's a knockoff of the M4.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

With with a really an M16 front end. But it it is definitely funny. Because you got the the the robots like tilting their heads to look through the scope. Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, not not only that, but turning their heads and you know, moving in ways that why would a robot need to do that?

SPEAKER_00:

It wouldn't, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh no, it's supposed to be scary. Terminator-esque.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, no, because they kind of look more like the you know, the the robot you would buy at a store to have a pet robot than actual military gear. Right. I'll tell you the freakiest looking robot ones, also Chinese. No, no, no, no. I don't mean military, I mean just in general freakiest. China, there's another Chinese company that is making robots that look extremely human, like full human proportions, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And they're making them in male and female. Yeah, as soon as they make them into a sex doll, you realize we're done.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, because the funding for that is gonna be in the billions or trillions, even. Like they're gonna have so many orders and so much innovation on that front for just the perfect robot skin, the perfect robot, you know, lips, the perfect robot everything. That but from what I've seen of the videos a few weeks ago, the movements, which is software, right, look way better than a lot of the robots that we've seen before, including musks. Like the like these things are walking with their hips shifting the way that chicks walk.

SPEAKER_01:

And in the video that's the machine will be spending his money on.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh-huh. In the what dude, as somebody who can't take half your income, I'd say that's a win. I don't care how much it costs, it's still a win. Oh, it'll love you a long time, believe me. Long time. But yeah, that that video I think I just you know posted because it was funny. Not for any other reason. Uh-huh. Uh let's see, what else we got? Uh oh, you saw the thing from Italy, right? Italy planning to halt all aid to Ukraine.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And they're securing their borders.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah. So I think somebody's been putting their finger up in the wind and seeing the way that the wind's blowing. Because when she was first elected, I thought, what's her name? Maloney or whatever.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Maloney.

SPEAKER_00:

I thought that she was like all Trump-esque, gonna take the hard line with all this bullshit liberal crap in Europe. And then nothing. There's been like literally no major moves from her along those lines whatsoever. I'm sure she's done some stuff, but nothing to really rebuke the uh liberal agenda in Europe. Or even in Italy, right? Until now. This is the first thing that I've seen where that sort of like, okay, we're done with Ukraine. They they're not getting any more of our money kind of thing came across. And then that was in one article. The other article is the one you sent, talking about how at the same time, basically, they're also taking a hard line on the it's not immigration, it's really uh you know, asylum for all the boats, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. But in in this is all in light of the economist article, though, as well, right? Yeah, so the economist is reporting that America Russia will invest almost, what was it, 12 a trillion in the US, depending on how this ends with Ukraine?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it's part of the whole restructuring package. Like, what I think what both countries, frankly, are trying to do is to not just limit the negotiations to like, okay, neither one of us is gonna do stuff with Ukraine and we'll just freeze the border or whatever, and then all military action cease. Because you know the problem with that is people in Ukraine or even in America that are just very gung ho, like Senator Lindsey, they're not gonna let it go. They will keep funneling money and waste into Ukraine even after a total end of all military action. They're gonna basically turn Ukraine into a terrorist state. It'll just be constantly doing drone attacks, vehicle explosions, just shit non-stop. There's no way they're gonna stop. That's always going to have been the case, though. Well, it I mean, it wasn't the case before this thing started, but I think that the only way to keep that started. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the only way to keep that from happening is to have something that affects the US if that happens. Like US have to be a guarantor. No, no Germany being a guarantor. That that's just stupid. They have zero incentive to guarantee anything. So, and you know, as we know, according to Angela Merkel, when they when they were guarantors last time there was peace, they willingly did it just to buy some time and re-arm Ukraine. So this deal they're talking about, it's basically saying, look, Ukraine is such a tiny little portion of this that it's you know it it's obviously worth freezing it or putting it, you know, pin in it and focusing on the big picture, which is trillions of dollars. And if true, like if true does this is all very much, yeah, absolutely contingent if true. I looked at the Russian sites and they're all quoting the same magazine article. So everybody's basically saying if true, which who knows if it is. But if it's true, I think it's probably a pretty good move from the Russian perspective because it's basically saying, look, we're gonna give you access to a plethora of resources, we're gonna get back on the dollar for trading, we're gonna help the U.S. economy get bigger and remove fears of inflation, and we're gonna do all of that, and all you have to do is control Ukraine and make sure that it's basically a DMZ, that there's no one that's going to be building terrorist drones in Ukraine. That's gonna be America's problem to control that. So I think that's if I was if I assumed this is a real deal, that's what I would envision this being. Because Russia's like they're not gonna do anything that hurts them, but they're basically shifting resources away from China and to the United States, which America wants.

SPEAKER_01:

The United States has the technical ability to help them get their and financial and money, yeah, to get their minerals out of the ground, right? We have the we have the no one else on earth knows how to frack the way we no one else on earth knows how to now.

SPEAKER_00:

Ironically, interesting timing, anyway. At almost exactly the same time, maybe a day apart, China announces a new Ukraine restoration investment deal where they're gonna be putting in, I can't remember how many billions of dollars into rebuilding Ukraine, and they just did that deal. So I think China knows that Russia's a you know a warm weather friend, there's no great love there, and I think Moscow and Beijing have never really gotten along. No, no, there's not been a whole lot of respect from either direction. You know, I anything you could say about how racist Americans are nothing compared to the way that the Russians are. It's I think I've told you about this before. It's like, you know, forget about the end word. There's about 50 different words that are worse than that that would be a normal Russian vocabulary. And the same thing from China, like they they see Russia as basically being the dumbest of the white people, right? So you've got the Europeans, you've got all these other people, but they they certainly see the Russians as the the dumbest of the bunch. So there's never been a whole lot of love lost there. It's always been a marriage of convenience. And not much of one for a while. And during the 80s, the majority of Russian missiles, nuclear missiles, were pointed at China, not at the United States. Their default flight plans had them targeting China. Because there was always a fear that you know China might get too big for their bridges, and they they clearly needed more land because they had a huge population. Russia has poorly protected land.

SPEAKER_01:

China never wanted to accept that they were the minority partner when it came to the SSR.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. Exactly. So yeah, as if we've mentioned previously, and I know this is a favorite topic for you, is that getting a Russo-American pact basically creates a shell around the we just gotta kick out Canada, obviously, but basically it means that there's only a few countries that are all next to each other.

SPEAKER_01:

We just need to take over Canada. And when Alberta leaves, we will.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I you know, the important bits first, I think, because if we can get Alberta, I think the rest of Canada is just gonna go bankrupt and we can get them for ten cents in a dollar. Exactly. Yeah. And so I think there are definitely smart politicians, or not politicians, so negotiators on both sides here that would love to see that type of win-win and you know a big win. Yeah, but meanwhile, Lindsay's Grams, you know, keeps flying back and forth to Ukraine and telling them how the United States is never gonna give up. So it it's it'll be interesting to see what happens. Um given that we're over a year into Trump presidency and this was one of the big things he ran on, I I'm pretty sure he'd love to put a nail ending the Ukrainian conflict because as far as he's concerned, it it would have never started if he was elected. Well, I think he's gonna which we now know he actually was elected, he just didn't get confirmed.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my god. Like, seriously, is the Supreme Court court gonna have enough of a sack to overturn the Biden presidency?

SPEAKER_00:

I would love to see that happen. I don't know if that they are. I mean, it's we we have some wishy-washy Republicans in the Supreme Court. We have some people that routinely vote with the Democrats. So I I don't see that happening. I think they're gonna leave it alone. I think that they're probably gonna be more receptive to challenges to get voting to be more sanitized, at least for federal elections. I think they're gonna be receptive to things like you know, voting has to stop at midnight, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and I I truly think Trump has the power to federalize some elections. And and the way I say this is it is up to the federal government to ensure a republican form of government for the states. If the states do not have a republican form of government, yeah, you know, that is part of the purview of the federal government. So if a state like Georgia, California, and some others have, you know, cheated and changed things, you can argue that they don't have that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah, we'll let uh the lawyers figure that one out. But I think I think they have an opportunity. It would be very sad if they don't take advantage of this opportunity to ensure the integrity of elections. Because unfortunately, what we've also seen is a backpedaling on a lot of states redistricting to where all the gains coming from Texas and one other state have now been wiped out by gains by Democrats in South Carolina and a few other states.

SPEAKER_01:

So Virginia mainly.

SPEAKER_00:

Virginia mainly it appears like there will not be a way to ensure that the Republicans stay in office. Looking at what's the website that has the betting stuff for future things?

SPEAKER_02:

Call she.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. You know, they're the ones always advertising on X. Sure. But uh, anyways, they're they're looking at a 62% win for the Democrats. It's not to say that the Democrats get 62% of the House or anything, but that there's a 62% chance that the Democrats have at least one. One more over 50% than the Republicans. And I think that's probably likely because historically speaking, it is almost impossible for a sitting president's political party to hang on to the House and Senate. Yeah, that's why I said it's practically impossible. So it's it's a very small chance of that happening, especially when you have a lot of disgruntled Republicans for a variety of reasons. Some of which are very disgruntled, with Trump in not focusing on Epstein and thinking that that was their number one issue for voting for him and not anything else that he's actually accomplished. There's also infighting from Republicans, obviously happening with the pro or anti-Israel thing, with both sides basically saying we're not going to vote for somebody who doesn't agree with us as a Republican. So we may lose some pro-Israel Republicans, we may lose some anti-Israel Republicans in the same election. You know, I mean it's it's always math. It's like if you can maintain a coalition, then you get to control. If your coalition falls apart because of infighting, it's really easy for the other side to swoop in because when they're not in power, they don't have to worry too much about their own coalition because everyone's just focused on getting rid of the other team. And Democrats are more likely to do that anyway. They're less contentious with each other. Like they have no problem with the AOC crowd being, but how stupid did she look?

SPEAKER_01:

Did you go back to the city?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, she's been stupid her entire life, dude. We've seen that in the variety of interviews. It this is nothing new, but she definitely is doing a Kamala Harris impersonation. You know, she's just saying stupid things with a smile on her face as though she's the one that that's kind of calling the truth out, and everybody else is a moron.

SPEAKER_01:

My favorite one was that you know Venezuela was below the below the equator.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I I will give her that because I thought that Guam was south of the equator as well.

SPEAKER_01:

No.

SPEAKER_00:

Well yeah, now I know that. But my by it's barely. I mean, you know, it's right above. And the same thing with uh Venezuela, it's right above the equator. Like you just go a little bit further and you're crossing the equator. So that bit of it, I'm not gonna laugh at her for because I did the same thing and I'm way more intelligent than she is.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know. I was laughing at her. Oh, speaking of work stuff, just won a big contract in Scotland.

SPEAKER_00:

Scotland, ooh, yes, with uh I get a trip out to your your ancestors.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, exactly. And inner was interviewing a guy today, and turns out he's Dutch. Ah, okay. Lived in the US since he was six, okay, permanent resident, all that, but he's Dutch. Okay, uh really interesting guy. And I was like, Do you know who Adam Curry is? They all know Adam Curry, all of them knew that it was hilarious, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

He's like their biggest Dutch celebrity who's not Dutch. Exactly. Yeah, he's a Dutchy too. Yeah, kinda, yeah, yeah, sorta. His parents were in the CIA and he he spent part of his childhood there.

SPEAKER_01:

Anyway, I just thought that was hilarious. But no, yeah, I'm definitely gonna be going back to Guam this year with all the work it looks like we're gonna be getting, and it looks like I'm gonna be going to Europe at least as well. So nice. New status unlocked.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, get your get your status unlocked, exactly. Half the have the fun of working for large companies, getting that status going.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

For sure. Let's see, what else we talking? You said you had something with Amelia again, so I'm getting sick of the purple haired chick, I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_01:

Why? Like you're just not my type, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, okay, let me rephrase that. I've dated girls that look like this. I was not a happy camper dating them, so not my type.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh it's it's like anyway.

SPEAKER_01:

I I still really think the the Amelia stuff was a setup for what Rupert Bell is doing.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and I I get it, and I understand why it's ironically funny, but also it's kind of like taking these stereotypical libs of TikTok, blue spiky haired nose ring chicks, and then using AI to make them say pro-Trump stuff. It's like, yeah, I get it, it's funny, but that but you know, it's not real. It's it's like that ain't it. It ain't gonna happen.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Chicks that look like her are not on the side of these 75-year-old guys. Okay, but that's the entire point, is you know, the Pathways UK did something stupid in the I know, but I would much prefer an actually nice-looking British chick being that and not like the gross looking British.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know. Like, I don't know. It always seems like someone to have fun with. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

It's it's funny. I just think it's kind of gotten past that point of being funny for me, anyway.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, well. I think the messaging and how big each one of these is getting is is pretty telling. The lotus eaters have been all over this. By the way, um Rupert Lowe did a sit-down interview with with Sargon. Sorry. I haven't gotten to watch it yet, but and I haven't gotten to see Rubio's speech at the first Trump Peace Summit thing. At the what? The meeting of the Trump Peace Club.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. They had their first meeting.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't see that either, so that's I can't have any feedback on it. I I had to work late, so yeah, it just didn't pop up on my feed, apparently. You you saw the interview, or I can't I'm not even sure who the interviewer was, but Vance was getting interviewed and then was asked about how fantastic is Rubio, and Vance did an extremely intelligent answer, which is not to completely just like bend away from competition and then praise Marco and saying, look, he's my best friend in the administration. We hang out all the time, you know, we sit there and share brewski's, and he would be great, and I think a lot of people think that I would be great, and it's three years away, so there's no point in worrying about any of this stuff. But yeah, Marco's just kicking the ass and taking names right now, which is exactly the perfect answer.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I I think we'll see a Vance Rubio ticket, is what I predict. You don't think so, but well, I wouldn't mind it.

SPEAKER_00:

I just don't think that Vance is going to be willing to be the second potato again. But I I would really want Rubio to be leading that ticket.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I don't think Vance will be the second fiddle, I think it'll be Rubio.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but more people like Rubio than Vance.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Vance is pretty slick and no, I know, and I generally like them, but watching Rubio, I like Rubio more. And I'm not the only one. I'm seeing a ton of like anytime this kind of thing gets posted, where it's comparing the two of them, the the comments on X are about two-thirds for Rubio, one-third for Vance. And none of them are negative, they're just like, I love them both, but I gotta go with Marco. You know, it's that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So Grok is projecting that in the next little bit here, restore Britain membership to be between 270 and 800,000, which would be the largest political party by far in the UK.

SPEAKER_00:

Holy shit, that's how small their political parties are, the size of a city? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Dude, they have the population of Texas. And way more representation. Like that's part of the reason why I think our.

SPEAKER_00:

Why do people even take them seriously then?

SPEAKER_01:

Because they've been a great naval power.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh let's see, UK population in 2025, 69 million.

SPEAKER_00:

I will I will say one of the channels I've been really watching a lot lately, and and this is something you're your Bob and I are sending back and forth to each other, is Promethean Channel, which is these like 65, 70-year-old women who apparently have been involved in politics for 50 years, 5-0.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you've sent me a few of these.

SPEAKER_00:

I've sent you a few of them, yeah, yeah. And they are dry and yeah. Yeah, they're they're basically, if you look at the last few interviews that Anne Rand did in the 70s, they're channeling her. I mean, it's it is exactly that type of style. But they are very anti-communist and very anti-British, which I think is fucking hilarious. So they're they're basically saying that the all the negative shit that we've experienced in the United States over the last 50 years has been the result of capitulating to letting Britain make decisions that impacted all of us. And their desire to reignite this sort of imperialist claim that they have by going all in on globalism, because that's really the only way that they could have any semblance of being in charge of anything, is by being extremely pro-globalist and then affecting the globalist policies and decisions. This has been a huge detriment to America because we don't need to be globalists unlike them. We can actually lead the world as Americans and just be pro-America and carry the world.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

That's the thing is. Yeah, they never could. The United States has the resources to be self-sufficient. We don't have to go colonize the rest of the world in order to prop up our own economy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we have resources, we have land is the problem. Our biggest issue is birth rate.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

That's really it. Everything else is an easy thing to solve.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and I really like Adam's North Sea Nexus theory. And I really think that taking down Prince Andrew is a shot across the bowel for that.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, we're not the ones taking him down, though. I don't know. We released the information that led to it. Yeah, but I also guarantee you that the UK had full access to this information for the last five to seven years. Right, and they're not the ones who released it. No, they're not the ones who released it. Exactly. They just didn't act on it because it didn't suit them. And now I think they're wanting to appear like they actually give a shit. Which is hard to believe given that over 30,000 under 18 girls have been raped, according to British police statistics. And you and I both know that the overwhelming majority of those rapes were by men that were not born in the UK.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, absolutely. The Grimming Tommy Robinson has been totally vindicated.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean the white paper that uh Restore Britain put out. No, I did not on deportations. So they put out a hundred-page white paper on how they are going to do the deportations, what the legal blocks are, how they're gonna overcome those. Like it's very well thought out. So they have a plan. And I think a lot of I think it I think the elections are crackling again. I think the elections are gonna come down to how long has it been since we started?

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe it's a time-related thing to where after you talk for a while, yeah, it's been about an hour.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, maybe clean feed has a memory leak, then I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know, but it's I think it started about the one hour mark last time.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, we'll have to track that. Yeah. Anyway, with the white paper that they're putting out, I think that it's the elections are really gonna come down to immigrants versus Native Britons.

SPEAKER_00:

And they've got a lot of people that are that are non-native Britons that are already in politics. Um I don't know. Again, I wish them well. I just kind of feel like if they went way too far with doing nothing about it, that they may be still fucked, no matter what. Like they may like this whole party can simply just get stuck in the high viscosity of not being able to push anything through. We'll see.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So when do you think we're going to pull the trigger on Iran?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, dude, I I don't even want to make a guess because I've been wrong now for a while. I really thought it was gonna be a day or two after our first aircraft carrier got there. Obviously, that is not the case. So at this point, you know, there's estimates on the low end of 30,000, on the high end of 90,000 Iranian processors are now dead. Which whether the US does anything or not at this point, there's still going to be a very bitter pill if we actually do end up going in there because you know, Trump was basically well, you you remember, way before the aircraft carriers even got close, he was talking about help is on the way, you know, hold your hold the line to the Iranian people.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, yeah, I mean, I think it could be as soon as tonight, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I mean, uh I think it'd be good, but also I fully admit that I have zero gut feel on this. Like, I literally it could either happen tonight or it could happen never. And both those are equally realistic to me right now. They could figure out a way to basically do a deal with the Iranian government that gets the US what it wants but just fucks the Iranian people, and that's just as likely right now. But I don't know. It's it's a tough thing because as much as I like having you know a free Iran that we could travel to on vacation eat their great food and to not have somebody sponsoring terrorism all over the world and all over the Middle East, I also Well the problem is if you go in and take out you know the Mola, you're going to have to deal with a terrorist element, just like you're going to have to in your crime.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But it's it's where the funding comes from. So if Iran become has a revolution, even if it's a US-made revolution, and it it certainly will generate some, you know, I I guess what's happening right now is technically a counter-revolution, even though it's been 45 years, but it's a counter-revolution. So the old revolutionary elements will just simply become the terrorist elements. However, right now, Iran is spending a lot of the money that they get from selling food to Europe for terrorism. So if that money funnel goes away, that leaves one fewer nation in the Middle East as a sponsor of terrorism. And as you said when we started the show, you don't know how long Qatar's gonna last. But I gotta say, if Iran goes away, I think Qatar's gonna become a lot nicer very, very fast. Because right now the position they're in is by being the we're not violent, we just pay for all the violence group. And if if there's no longer an Iran to point the finger at for violence, the last thing Qatar wants is America coming in, cleaning up their government and bringing democracy in. Because if we do, and again, I don't even know if we're gonna have a revolution in Iran, but if we do, this will be the third country in the Middle East that the U.S. has come in and whacked.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I mean, we have so many tie-ins here, and when you look at the Middle East, you have to think of the British, right? Because of what they did and what they controlled. And ironically enough, the Globe just put out a breaking line that Keir Starmer has announced that the Britain will not allow the U.S. to use British bases for strikes on Iran.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_01:

So can the British be considered an ally anymore?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, they're not. I mean, it's been pretty obvious. Yeah. At least that's what the gals from Promethean say. So but that I mean, that's literally everybody. So Saudi Arabia says we can't fly over there or space or use our bases within their countries. Qatar says the same thing. Every Middle Eastern country, including the the middle country of Britain, the Middle Eastern country of Britain, the caliphate of Britain, uh, is saying the same thing, which is like, we don't really like Iran, but we're all Muslims, and that's more important. So you cannot bring us along on your crusade here against Iran. And that's the other confusing thing. I think for a lot of people, they're they're just thinking, well, we're we're like Iran bad, just like Russia bad. But no, Iran's actually good. It's the revolution that took over Iran 43 years ago that's bad. That's the bad. So the people of Iran are actually generally in opposition to that, and we know that not only from the videos we watched, but from the fact that almost a hundred thousand of them are now dead, more people than died in two years of an actual war, close to there, in Israel, and and in a much shorter period of time, literally just a period of a couple of weeks. I mean, it's a huge that they're at a point where they were both making people pay to get the remains of their relatives and doing mass incinerators for the people whose relatives did not pick them up. I mean, they are just erasing people. That alone does not make them worthy of an American invasion, in my opinion. But it's definitely a cherry on top.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I I think we are I think with our aircraft carriers we don't need anybody's bases. And I think we you know it means leaving out the F-22, because there's no carrier variant of the F-22, but okay. I think the F-35 and everybody is everything else is very capable. So yeah. That and the F-22 has a long enough range, doesn't have to take off from over there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah, and then the the other thing that we can absolutely do is just not give a shit about what Saudi Arabia or Qatar or any of the other countries do, because what are they gonna do? What's Qatar want to get in the middle of a hot war with the U.S. when we've got all our shit there?

SPEAKER_01:

Qatar is worried about a Iranian retaliation against the bases out there.

SPEAKER_00:

I know. I I I understand that. But that's also why we can say it doesn't matter. It's our base. We're gonna it's it's sovereign U.S. territory, we're gonna take off from it anytime we want to. We're not gonna let a a foreign power dictate to us whether we're we can launch planes from our own military base.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, if it were me, I would say fuck it to the UK over Qatar, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm. Well, the UK I mean, where are their bases? What what's the closest one that's useful?

SPEAKER_01:

In any of them on the island? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00:

What island? What are you talking about? Great Britain. Yeah, Great Britain. Dude, I I'm talking about attacking Iran. Like whether Great Britain Well, we're not gonna attack Iran from Great Britain. Why not? F-22?

unknown:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

We have closer base. We have Greece for Christ's sakes. Way closer. We have Turkey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though Turkey also said that they're not gonna allow American planes to get launched. But that also should highlight something that to me seemed obvious over the last 50 years, which is if you have bases in European countries that are gonna pretend like they're sovereign, then it's not really your base. It's their base. And you're just using their as a parking lot. So if they if any of these countries, any of these NATO countries can dictate whether or not you're allowed to use American bases that are in their countries, that's not a good deal for us. And we need to recoup our money from providing a safety net to those countries and start shutting those bases down. I agree.

SPEAKER_01:

It would be uh it would be it would destroy the economies of Europe.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely. I mean, beyond boards already destroyed. We have last I heard, and this is going off memory, so it's number probably not quite right, but we have something like 189 bases worldwide that are not on US territory. So Guam doesn't count in that number. It's over 180 bases in foreign countries. There aren't 180 foreign countries.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So we we literally have multiple bases in some of these countries. So it it really should put into focus the Yeah, you you're way off on your number, by the way. What is it?

SPEAKER_01:

The United States operates a vast global network of approximately 750 to 877 military bases across more than 80 countries.

SPEAKER_00:

I wonder if they were talking about like with airfields.

SPEAKER_02:

Probably.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's probably what it was. Because like it was definitely a number under 200. I I want to say it was like 182 or something like that. So that may have been like bases with aircraft stations on them, not just all bases.

SPEAKER_01:

And that number I just counted probably includes, you know, FOBs and everything else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like there's 120 bases in Japan. 119 in Germany, 73 in South Korea.

SPEAKER_00:

But not all of them are gonna have aircraft on them. Not all of them are air bases. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

How anybody can possibly say the US is not an empire? I I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01:

I I because we are not a traditional empire.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, just a military one.

SPEAKER_01:

Where we pay for your economies versus extracting the wealth. That's the big problem there. Yeah. But we're extracting the hell out of Venezuela. Yeah, that seems like a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02:

Over a billion dollars.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Here in the next month, they're gonna have over a five have done over five billion dollars in oil trades with the U.S. That's pretty quick. Yep. They're they're predicting by the end of the year it could be as much as 20. Which is a huge boon to the Venezuelan economy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. In fact, what's the uh did we talk about the Booz Allen Hamilton thing?

SPEAKER_01:

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Was that in the last episode or not? I can't remember. What's the So Trump has canceled, or you know, I guess not I'm sure it came down from Trump, but ultimately canceled all government US government contracts with Booz Allen Hamilton.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I hadn't heard that. Yep. By the way, just for reference, if they end up doing$20 billion, their current GDP of the current GDP of the entire country of Venezuela is only$82 billion.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, that's a pretty big jump for them.

SPEAKER_00:

I'd say. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

So I I know he has been looking at canceling a bunch of military contracts.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Especially ones where there had been significant overruns in costs with the contracts.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, they're yeah, so they were apparently the ones that were doing a lot of the Ukraine stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'm reading here, it says 98% of their revenue is currently derived from US government contracts.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Now not all I'm glad stock.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's it's exactly. Well, I'm sure. I mean, there's no way they're just gonna say, okay, okay, that sounds good. Well, what about all the contracts they have in place? Like they'd have to prove that there was termination for cause. There's it it may take years to get through the court system.

SPEAKER_01:

But in the meantime.

SPEAKER_00:

In the yeah, meantime, nothing's getting purchased from them. Nothing's getting.

SPEAKER_01:

In the meantime, can it can they get a judge to say no, you have to? Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, yeah, and it's I don't know. I mean, you can always find a judge for anything, but will they be able to get one in time? I don't know. I don't know. So it hit$76, which is a 34% drop in about a week. They were trading at uh at over$95 before that.

SPEAKER_01:

I have I have friends over there.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I'll have to do it.

SPEAKER_00:

They might be looking for working for a job. Yeah. Exactly. I don't think anymore. I used to have some people I knew there, but not anymore. Yeah, I actually pinged my buddy that used to work at the NSA today. I haven't talked to him in years. Need to see if he still lives in Austin. Uh that's the guy that I did my original security podcast with 20 years ago. And uh they've been trying to end up in Austin.

SPEAKER_01:

They've been trying to get more and more into the commercial space. Like rope we've run up against them a couple of times. But they do not understand how the commercial space works because all they do is federal work. So I'm I'm not seeing that story, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

Which one?

SPEAKER_01:

I see a treasury count contract canceled, but not all government contracts.

SPEAKER_00:

So this was coming from a post from CNBC.

SPEAKER_01:

Huh. I see the Treasury canceled all contracts. But not all. Not like weapons manufacturing and so on.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. I mean, I don't know. I'm not gonna Google it right now, but that's that's what the the CNBC story was.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, if that's the case, then they're they're cooked.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah. But again, if they were really cooked, their stock would be a lot lower than the 30% drop. So 30% drop means all the safe people just get out, and there's still plenty of people that think that's gonna resolve itself, and it's just you know, clearly Trump's trying to do something, maybe discounts, maybe something else. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

They are still above their five-year-old.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, well, there you go. There you go. You should I buy them? Is this the point at which I now purchase booze allen?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, not if all contracts have been canceled, I win.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, so what other stories you got?

SPEAKER_00:

That's all I got, man. That's all you got. That's all I got. Has it been kind of a slow week? I told you that at the beginning.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and it's also a short week for us because we did the last podcast on Sunday and today's Thursday.

SPEAKER_00:

That's true. Yeah, so it did kind of short. Well, back, we're back on our normal schedule, more or less. Yep. Yeah. And even though we're not, I mean, we might as well just give an update. So we we still want to at some point do a meetup. Let me rephrase that. At some point, Ben wants to do a meetup. I'm very ambivalent to these things because, you know, if someone really wants to talk to us, they can do a donation and send us a comment, and we'll be happy to chat with them. But but you seem to want to do an in-person physical meetup, and I'm happy to do that if somebody else does all the planning and logistics for it. Right. But I will be bringing you your monitors tomorrow, which I know we've talked about, so I might as well give that update to people. You should be monitor full. You're gonna get four additional monitors tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm gonna I I've already been I already have plans on how I'm gonna strip my desk and start over. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, yeah, like my desk is not cable managed worth of shit right now. So I'm literally going to pull everything off and start over. And by the way, that three-inch wide bracket on the back side of my new piece of wood desk. Yep, is perfect for the large, not the XL, but the large LTT magnet cable holders. Okay, so I'm gonna be able to really cable manage that side of the desk very well.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, good. Well, so they have an XL as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, they've got all the way from small, medium, large, extra large. Yeah, they're very cool. Like the these they're they're magnetic, so they they have back plates if you are putting it on wood or something like that. Yeah, but it's just basically an arch so you can cable manage. And what's so great about it is because it's magnetic, you can take it on and put it off again. So it kind of really encourages you hey, I've got to run another cable. Well, cable manage it, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, don't just throw it in the back like I do.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. Like I if you if I showed you a picture of the cables under and on top of my desk, you'd be like, Yeah, he's been living with that for a while. But I did clean up the networking closet quite a bit. I've got it managed fairly well. That's good. Yeah. So I I will tell one little funny story. And so I got I got bitched at by my roommate for breaking the internet, and what am I doing? Like, what are you talking about? And you changed something, I can't click on websites anymore, and so on. I figured out. I installed the pie hole DNS server and started blocking more aggressively on ad stuff.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01:

And it was doing a Google search and clicking the sponsored link was not working.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm like, you're it's because you're clicking on an ad.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I'm not. It's just a no, look, see, sponsored ad. Scroll down here. There. That's the actual website.

SPEAKER_00:

I probably should get a pie hole installed. I'm just I'm just doing a dummy DNS entry. That's all I'm doing.

SPEAKER_01:

So I was I was running my own DNS to begin with, but I wasn't I wasn't as aggressively filtering as some of the pie hole stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But no, what I did was I just set up a VM uh and have it running. I I could have even set it up as a container, but I I I like things to be separated more. So yeah, dude, you've got enough hardware laying around. Just grab a copy of yeah, just grab a copy of Proxmox, the community edition, and you know, roll.

SPEAKER_00:

I will say that my super easy hack works like 95%. All I'm blocking is asterisk ad. Okay. I mean, like that kills so many ad servers. Because they all uh use obvious human terminology for naming these things.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, but you know, you can go and get the block lists off of some of these forums and stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

I know, I know. I'm not doing anything fancy, I'm just quick and dirty, just sat do it because I was pissed off at watching it. And so I just threw in a this is shit I was doing 30 years ago, so I know it still works.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Well, I would so I was running DNS on my pfSense box and running my own DNS server and you know, blacklisting, but not again, just not as aggressively. Um I will tell you, one of the security tip one-on-one for anyone in ICS networks, one of the cool things I one of the what I think is cool that was a real low-hanging fruit thing, was when we first uh at the utility I worked for, when we first set up InfoBlocks. So InfoBlocks is a really kind of cool DNS service. One of the first things I did was I took Dragos's threat intelligence feed, which has a suspicious domain list, and I just set it to monitor and alert on any suspicious domain hits, right? And boom, there you go. So malware command and control domains, all that comes up. And, you know, obviously after monitoring for a while and nothing bad happening, put it in the block mode. Yeah, you're blacklisting instead of whitelisting, but it's way less work. And when you try and blacklist everything and only whitelist, and then you know, someone from Schneider Electric can't remote in because you're blocking the German DNS, and you didn't even realize it, you know, that affects operations. So anyway, it was just it was just taking product A, product B, smash together.

SPEAKER_00:

Woo-hoo. Yeah, it makes sense. It's uh it's sad that we have to do this, but you know. At least we have tools.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, we we do have to, you know, take into account our own privacy, and to some people, like my roommate, you know, just don't care. And I can't understand that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, and I I gotta throw in this. This is too funny. So I talked to a buddy of mine that is very well off. He lives in he lives in California, Portugal, and somewhere south of the equator. And he was all excited and telling me about this V-Box thing. He's like, oh, you gotta check this out. You you buy it from them, and then you basically get all the different streaming services unlimited for free. And I'm I'm listening to this, I'm like, okay, tell me that you don't have this sitting on your main network at home. It's like, well, no, but why? I I mean I was gonna pull a cable for it, it's just sitting on the Wi-Fi right now. I'm like, dude, this is this is a great way to have you lose all your internal networking access and data. Because these things, I've watched some videos on them.

SPEAKER_01:

People Linus did a breakdown of them.

SPEAKER_00:

Did he? Okay, yeah, yeah. They're all just totally sucking in all data, parsing it, and then sending back to China.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, it's even worse than that. Some of it is preloaded with ransomware.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, you know, like you're you're sending emails across the network, they're not encrypted. These things are literally just copying your email traffic. Anything that's not point-to-point encryption, they're gonna have an opportunity to grab. And they're very hardened. Like one of the guys was started saying, Okay, well, let's reload the bootloader on this thing, and then as soon as you attempt to rewrite those those blocks, the thing just reboots, and then on its boot cycle, it automatically talks to the mothership, does a checksum, and then grabs and reinstalls its own bootloader, and it reboots again. I mean, it's just like they're made to prevent people from making them a less unsafe. See, he actually went to then I can send you the video too if you're at all interested. I know you you already get way too many of my videos, so some of these longer ones I don't bother sending you. But the guy basically You send me like a hundred hours of videos a week. Per day, yeah, I know. But that's just that's just part of the ones I watch per day. But this guy actually had to put on his own memory chip on there with some preloaded bootloader, like physically soldered back on that thing to get it to not automatically erase everything. And then he got a command line going in, or not a command line, I guess it would be a I mean it's basically running Linux, right? Android's Linux.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, Android is Linux, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so it's basically running Linux, just uh Android-based and then customized on top of that version of Linux.

SPEAKER_02:

Did you uh did you see North Korea's version of Android?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh uh. No.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, there's some videos breaking down some of the North Korean phones. It's pretty crazy. They have phones, they have their own phones, and they are insanely expensive. You you gotta go find this video.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. All right. I do that.

SPEAKER_01:

They they pay for apps for periods of time.

SPEAKER_00:

They're renting apps.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. And like it it's crazy. Go look at the North Korean internet uh app that they have and stuff. It's it's it's really interesting. If true.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's that's fascinating. I guess I just assume North Korea didn't use phones. Except for the people that are allowed to, you know, obviously.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and the phones take screenshots of what you're doing constantly. Oh, nice and store it in the phone. But they're made by Microsoft. Yeah. Oh god. That's my one regret right now with the new PC is Windows loan. I'm running Windows.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's really too bad you can't like retrograde it back down to 10 at this point. They locked it down.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, like I I would really I'm so close to just saying screw it and trying some Linux distros and seeing what all I can get working.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but that's trying. What you need is to be able to just run shit right now. But if you're not doing, I mean, here's the thing that I didn't realize you were gonna do is I thought you were just buying it to do gaming and you're gonna keep your other computers for work. I didn't think you were gonna like consolidate everything out to a one machine.

SPEAKER_01:

Why keep two machines?

SPEAKER_00:

Because I have multiple machines for that exact reason. Nothing work-related ever happens on my gaming PC. No gaming ever happens on my work.

SPEAKER_01:

I have work computers as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm just doing the podcast on here.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, well, yeah, that well then who cares about that?

SPEAKER_01:

You could do that. That's not in web browsing and you know, just general. But I have I have my Linux laptop, you know, and everything.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I so you got your Linux laptop, you got your Mac laptop. Do you have a PC laptop or not?

SPEAKER_01:

I do.

SPEAKER_00:

Or I mean a Windows laptop or not? I

SPEAKER_01:

I have a Windows laptop for work and I have a Mac OS laptop for work.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. And then you also have a personal Linux one. And then you have a couple of PCs.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I've got a Surface Go to sitting on my desk as well. Running Linux.

SPEAKER_00:

Running Linux, yeah. Okay. And uh the Linux works pretty good on that?

SPEAKER_01:

It works great. It's a great little travel computer because it's small, it's compact, it's light. With Linux, it's got great battery life. It's actually very snappy. So yeah, it's a great little tablet.

SPEAKER_00:

That's cool. I got now. I hope I don't forget this because I'm gonna tell you about it, and I so I really hope I don't forget this. I shouldn't. I bought, we talked about this a couple weeks back. We're talking about like what drinks were you drinking when you were playing video games. So I got you a can of jolt. Okay. For old time's sake.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, cool. Well, I've just got a lousy t-shirt for you, my friend.

SPEAKER_00:

So okay, well, I got one of those for you as well. We'll swap t-shirts. Jesus Christ. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, I'm giving you like a thousand bucks worth of monitors, so the t-shirt's kind of a bonus.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and hey, I appreciate it, but you know, it's not like you were gonna sell them or anything.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I wasn't. That's exactly right. It's like you're doing me a favor because you're basically giving me the kick in the ass to move them out of my house.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Because if I if I if I would have done this right, I yeah, I need to find the projector, it's in my garage somewhere. If I was to do this right, I would have immediately upon upgrading, go and like at the very least, take the a monitor down to what's the place you give shit to poor people in? Salvation Army or whatever? Yeah, yeah. Whatever they're called. And at least get like a you know, I donated this much shit, kind of a tax thing. But I I'm always like super lazy to do that, and I'm a lot more interested in setting up the new monitor. So I never get around to doing anything with the old ones. I if for a while there, and this is not a new phenomenon. I've like my whole life I've been horrible at this. So for a while there, I remember watching The Sopranos where Tony has one TV on top of the other TV. Because they don't ever want to throw a TV out because it makes the FBI realize that there's a component that's brand new and they can, you know, stick stuff in there. And so they you end up having multiple TVs, half of which don't work, in your house just so nobody knows what you're currently running. So I kind of feel like that was not the reason for my monitor thing, but that kind of ended up looking like it where I had a bunch of monitors that are not plugged in anymore.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so my current plan, I'm I'm gonna have to see the monitors you bring me. Yeah. But I think the monitors you bring me are gonna go to the gaming PC, and then I'm gonna leave my current monitors in some configuration on the desk as well for purely dedicated to work. So I won't need the KVM, but we'll see.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so anyway, we'll we'll see how it goes.

SPEAKER_00:

But and you could use that mouse thing that I that I run that I can't remember the name of, which does Linux and Mac as well. Um you know the one I'm talking about, mouse something, mouse without borders, or the other one.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, uh the there's a Microsoft uh Share Mouse, that's the one I run.

SPEAKER_00:

Share mouse.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, there's a Microsoft tool though, too.

SPEAKER_00:

That does Linux? No, it doesn't do it. Well, this does Linux. Okay, but Mac does everything. Yeah, it's like a hundred bucks a year.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm not buying uh I'm not spending a hundred bucks a year on mouse sharing software.

SPEAKER_00:

You are such a Jew, I swear to God. And on that note, we'll talk to you tomorrow, actually, Gene. Yep, we'll talk to you later.

unknown:

Bye.

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