SPEAKER_01 0:25

Howdy, Ben. How are you today? Man, doing I'm doing alright. Doing better than Dvorak's doing right now, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Yeah, yeah. John Dwarak of no agenda fame has uh apparently had a heart attack, which is not good.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Yeah, heading for a double bypass, according to me, me and them on the show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

So yeah, that's yeah. That's never fun. That's probably one of the major things that can happen to him.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

Yeah, but hopefully he's gonna be alright, and you know, our thoughts and prayers goes out to him, that's for sure. I've been following Devorak for a long damn time, dude. As long as me. Only because you're older.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

I remember reading him as a kid. Uh yeah, yeah. I had PC Mag as a kid. Yeah. And I watched Cranky Geeks. He was in Yeah, so that's all like stuff that was later in his life. I watched him on Computer Chronicle on PBS in the 80s. And then in the mid-80s, he started appearing on the the last page of Mac User magazine. And his column was basically like the Devil's Advocate column, where he would write a you know, usually a page long article about something that he really doesn't like about the Mac, like a mouse. Like, what a stupid idea. Who's gonna use those?

SPEAKER_01 2:00

So always he always he didn't say it was a stupid idea, he said there's no evidence for adoption or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Well, I don't have the magazine anymore, but I remember at the time thinking even back then, it's like he's nuts. The mouse is so much better. But um, you know, I think he purposefully knew that causing a little controversy is a good thing for marketing purposes. It uh makes more people want to share the article. Go, can you believe how stupid this guy is? Which is a strategy I've been using on X pretty well.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Yeah, yeah. It speaks to your inner troll.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

Mm-hmm. Exactly. And and Dwarak was trolling, you know, way before I ever did. So we certainly wish him speedy recovery on that.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Yeah, just not you know, not something you want to have happen, especially just to kind of catch you off guard like that.

RAM Troubles And PC Builder Blame

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Yeah, it's some whether it's off guard or off guard or on guard, it's not a good thing. But you've been kind of complaining about something today, so I want to hear more about it.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Yeah, so I uh I'm pretty pissed off at Cyber Power PC. Because I've been fairly happy with my system, but I've had some random issues, and I finally spent some time getting down to the bottom of it. And I found out my RAM my RAM is only clocking in at 3,600 megatransfers per second. Okay, even though it's 6,000 megatransfer per second RAM. But what'd you find out? Well, when I go to the motherboard's compatibility page, it is not listed as compatible for expo and 6,000 mega mega transfer RAM. There's only a small set that of RAM sticks out there that can do it on this motherboard. So that's something compatibility-wise, you have to be looking for. And if you're run trying to force it to run faster, you run into the issues that I was running into. So I chewed them out because I didn't select the RAM for my machine. I said major brand, this many transfers per second. I assume they're gonna look and see if it's compatible. And they didn't. So there is something in holy shit. They are they argued with me that oh no, it's compatible because it boots.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Yeah, booting in slow mode doesn't mean that it's compatible.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Or unstably in fast mode, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Right, right, right. So somewhere on your order sheet, it does say RAM 6,000.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

Yes. Okay, so it should perform at that speed.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Yeah, because that's the key thing. Like if it just said we'll put in appropriate RAM, then they kind of got you.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Right. But as long as that number's somewhere, it's a 6,000 megatransfers on the order form. And I didn't give a shit what brand, you know. Right. Anyway, going back and forth with them, they are supposed to refund me for the RAM. I've got to see how much that's gonna be. Yeah, exactly. Okay, fuckers, don't don't fuck up now. But if they'll if they will refund me for the RAM, then that's fine. I'll just take the refund and go order RAM.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Honestly, that's better for you anyway, because then you basically just get to buy 64 gigs of the good brand.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Yeah, that's two chips, yeah. Instead of going with four. So chip is gonna be crazy expensive though.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

900 bucks. And four is probably six hundred. I'm sorry. And using four dims, it's gonna be probably six hundred. Yeah, but I want the speed.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Yeah. Anyway, so I I will return the RAM I ordered from New Egg to match this. So that'll be five hundred bucks and then whatever they give me, so won't be too terrible.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

Yeah. Yeah, if you if they can refund the RAM. And I I mean again, I doubt you'll get as much back from them as you did from Amazon for the same thing because they're buying it wholesale, but still.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

Right, but they ought to give me at least cut two, three hundred bucks.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

Yeah, yeah, I would think so. I mean, it's I can't imagine it's less than 300 for 32 gigs of RAM. Right. Even at wholesale prices, and even like a month ago. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Anyway, so that's the frustration with cyberpower right now.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

And you discovered this when you ordered more RAM, put it in, and it wouldn't post.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Well, and then I started playing around with settings and trying to see what was what, right? Yep, yep. Because it would not run with expo enabled.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

And so is it there in that motherboard's called expo? Because in mine it's called XPS. It's expo. EXPO. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, that's totally different name for it. Because on mine, to get into the high-speed RAM mode, you turn on the XPS. So different abbreviation, different motherboard.

EXPO, Voltages, And Stability Fixes

SPEAKER_01 7:25

Yeah, different brand. But yeah, anyway, um, there's two different forms, there's different settings, but it's it's really fucking annoying to find this out. So yeah, the basically they had to change bio settings to make sure this RAM would run at six that it would show that it was running at 6,000 megatransfers a second. And there are stability issues with that, right? So you're not just putting in an auto, because if you put it in auto, it doesn't run the way it needs to. So that should be a hint and a you know that that should be a hint to them that that's not okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Like I know on my board, on the RAM, to run it at full speed, instead of running at 1.2 volts, it's running at 1.35 volts. Right. So if you get a RAM them that's not able to run at that voltage, it ain't gonna be compatible. So I'm sure it's a similar kind of deal with your stuff. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

So anyway, if I can get to 64 gigs of RAM with two sticks and be able to run full speed.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

I mean, you could go to 128 if you did that. I know how much your graphics are. I look like I've made a money. Jesus Christ. Did you not figure out what my job is in our friendship?

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, I guarantee you I'm gonna get faster frame rates. I have to be being rate ram RAM limited, not in amount, but in latency. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's enough about my computer issues. Uh there's a war on.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

There is a bit of a war on, yeah. I mean, it depends on what you count as war. Technically, there are no wars happening right now. Yeah, well, only there's a special military operation and a uh what what did Trump call ours? He didn't call it special military, but something similar to special military operation. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

It was totally a fucking Russia, don't say anything. That's what that was.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And most of the Iranians that are posting on X, like the actual people that want regime change, they're all calling this a rescue operation. Yeah. Not a war. So but there is a disturbing amount of people that are self-identifying as former, or I guess current veterans, former US soldiers, that are all like I know some people may hate me for saying this, but I think they're LARPing, playing the Vietnam vets of the 1970s. Because I remember those guys. It was all, you know, the the guy with a cold dead stare when he looks at you wearing an olive green army jacket over dirty jeans, buying cigarettes, and looks like he hadn't had any food in about a month because he's just drinking and smoking cigarettes all day. That's the image. I'm not saying that's what all Vietnam era vets were doing. There's plenty of fat ones going to the VFWs as well, but that's the sort of portrayal of the Vietnam era army vets that we had, is these are people that are totally disillusioned. They hate America. They well, they wouldn't say they hate America. They hate America's government, but they hate America's government at literally every turn, regardless of election. They just hate government. Now, you may you may agree with them on that count. But it's a it's a very black-pilled group of people, the Vietnam era vets that kind of stayed and never left that vet status. Because again, plenty of people that served in the military during Vietnam talk about from Vietnam at some point. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

But we'll stick with Iran right now.

Pivot To Iran: Messaging And Propaganda

SPEAKER_00 11:32

Yeah, so you know, I that there is there's an a lot of the messaging coming from the usual suspects of the woke right, the Tucker Katarlssons, and all the rest of them. Did you just call him Katarlssons? That's that's his name, Tucker Katarlson. Yep. I mean, I I'm being nice. I still call him Tucker. A lot of people are calling him fucker Katarlsson. Um yeah, or Cuck Katarlson. But regardless, the usual suspects are all saying the exact same line. This is why you know it's all scripted. They're they're getting their talking points, which is the overwhelming majority of American people do not support Donald Trump or this war. They're literally repeating it word for word, whether it's the Hodge Twins or or Tucker, or you know, you take your pick of any of the Jew haters out there. Same exact messaging. And what somebody found, which is interesting, because I hadn't noticed it, but it's totally true, is their messaging is almost exactly word for word of Dugan's posts on next two months prior. So Alexander Dugan is a Russian philosopher, sociologist. Yeah, yeah, he's referred to as Putin's brain. But he's basically a right-wing, politically oriented Russian guy who is fairly eloquent in his speech. He's written a bunch of books. He's also the guy whose daughter was blown up by Ukraine because he is very, well, like I said, he's right wing Russian, which means he's very pro-Russia in every regard, and obviously in regard to what Russia ought to have been doing in Ukraine, which is not taking it easy, but actually pushing hard. So anyway, so what he's been saying about Iran starting with a few months ago is almost exactly what like you know, he's literally saying, like, clearly the American population is not behind this. It's the war perpetrated by the elites and the Jews, you know, all that kind of stuff. He's not a big fan of Jews. But it's it's interesting because when the messaging starts getting repetitive, and and we've seen this on No Agenda plenty of times in their clips, the clips of media, to where they do clips of like 20 different TV channels using the exact same word-for-word language when talking about some situation usually Trump-related. It just is a little too much for coincidence, right? When you you have the exact same wording.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Yeah, I think it's interesting because people like you and I are I'm anti-war, but at the same time, yeah, what's been purported to have been said is Iran started the negotiations by saying we have enough fissile material for 11 bombs. Yeah. And we're not giving it up. Exactly. And the Trump admin said, Well, give it up. We'll sell you uranium for civilian power, we'll give it to you, we'll do all this, right? No biggie. We don't care if you have nuke power. No, no, no. And they were insistent that they would refine their own uranium and they would have that they had enough uranium for 11 bombs. Yeah. So yeah, I think we basically the way the way I see it is Trump is preventing the next North of Korea by doing this. Yeah, and that's because he's basically not letting them get to the point where it is too costly to stop them from getting in.

SPEAKER_04 15:25

Right.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

And the way he's doing it, I think is fucking brilliant. The airstrikes have been devastating. We are now total in total control of that airspace. We are flying in B-52s to bomb them, right? The buff is getting in on the action. Poor F-22 still hasn't gotten an intercept, but you know, it's okay. The the fact that we have the ability to fly the B-52 over Iranian airspace, not even using standoff weapons, is huge. And we're only a few days into this.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Yeah, what six days?

SPEAKER_01 16:01

Yeah. And they, you know, like Trump said, we're running out of people to negotiate with.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:08

Come on, guys.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

Hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 16:11

Well, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Oh, he's dead. He's dead. I was watching an interview with one of the the uh IRGC spokesmen. And when asked about a question about current leadership, his answer was a bunch of nonsense followed by and uh everybody's in charge. So literally, they're running by committee now because no one is willing to step up. Well, okay. I I don't think this thing's gonna last very long, dude. It it can't. No they're gonna fold.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

Yeah, they have to fold.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

But their arms are not getting renewed. A lot of people are not showing up to work. That's the other thing I've started seeing on the X is more posts of just everyday Iranian people sending messages to their relatives outside of Iran to basically say, you know, we're we're not going to work because it's dangerous, and that results in nothing actually getting accomplished for the government. So when half your factory that makes drones doesn't show up, well, there goes your drone production. Well, and then half your drone pilots don't show up for the same reason. There goes your drone pilot.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Well, if you look at the number of missiles and drones launched per day, it has just ticked down and down and down and down and down. So they started at, you know, in the hundreds and now they're in the forties. So yeah, I think their capacity to wage war is dropping day by day. The other interesting thing is we uh sunk their navy.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Like pretty much all of it, like over 30 boats.

SPEAKER_00 18:07

Which is not hard to do, let's be fair.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

Yeah, we've done that. It was really cool that we sunk the first ship since World War II to be sunk by a torpedo, and it was a single torpedo.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

I think the uh the torpedo boys got to play with something that they haven't gotten to play with for a long time. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

By the way, did you see the video?

SPEAKER_00 18:28

No, I still haven't. You told me, but I still don't.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Yeah, I mean, that's the way torpedoes certainly by the end of World War II were working. They weren't contact detonated, they were magnetic detonated underneath the keel in order to force a lot of pressure on the keel, essentially lifting the boat by a small spot in the middle of the keel, which results in metal just having stress fractures and cracking, and then the water starts coming in, you're done.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Yep. And if they we sunk their drone carriers, which is about the size of a World War II aircraft carrier. We sunk them, and yeah, it's it's been successful. Oh, where are those hypersonics that were gonna take out our um I know that our our our aircraft same place they've always been been in their imagination? Mm-hmm. I love the people saying that the U.S.

Airstrikes, Intercepts, And Naval Hits

SPEAKER_00 19:29

is losing all our bases are done for and that like Chenk Yogur or Chunky Yogurt, as people refer to him, you know, a Turkish national, in my opinion, operating for the propagandistic purposes of Turkey in the United States and frankly should lose his citizenship and be kicked out. But Chenk and he ran for president, which was crazy last election, too. I don't know if people remember that. Because he he was going to challenge that statute in court saying that the intent of the framers was always to allow people that are Americans, not born in America, but that are Americans, meaning not foreign, you know, not somebody that came over from New Orleans when it was France controlled. But either way, the guy is just a total mouthpiece. He's on Pierce Morgan every other episode now. I think he spends as much time on there as he does in his own show, The Young Turks, which of course the Young Turks is a reference to the the Turkish brigades that went to the killing and raping. Yeah, yeah, raping and killing the Armenians and fighting Iran. So it's like, okay, you name your show for the the most bloody visage of the Ottoman Empire, and you're you're saying you're not a mouthpiece for the extremists in Turkey? Okay. So yeah, I I I just think that there's a an obvious obvious progression in the war that's happening, regardless of who denies that anything that America's actually winning, regardless of what any of these either far lefties or far righty woke people are saying. The fact is, from everything I've seen in the media, everything I've seen that's been declassified for footage coming directly from US military.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

And we've declassified a lot very early.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Yeah, yeah. And the Israelis are basically taking classification off an hour after the event happens.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Yeah, and uh Hegseth, the briefing, briefings Hegseth has been giving, like this has been very, very transparent. So you know the war's going well when Andrew Tate's rolling in on his motorcycle into Dubai and the going to Did you see that? No, I didn't. He leaked text messages between him and his wife or whatever, saying How many wives has he got? Yeah, right. Well, she's like, Why are you doing this? You're putting your life in danger, and he goes, Real niggers do real nigger shit. And it's like, please.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Yeah, yeah. Like he's ever been a real nigger. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

He like just to even say that is just farcical. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Yeah, his dad was a chess champion. I mean, and his mom was white. Like the guy basically grew up in the above, like an Upper middle class, if not lower upper class family.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

And he's clearly fairly intelligent.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

And and he has no qualms about being a pimp. Yeah. And I'm not I'm not saying that, you know, I don't have a particular moral opposition to that, as long as the treatment isn't, you know, violent. Like women ought to be able to be pro I guess technically men too. Anyone who wants to be ought to be able to be a prostitute. And if those prostitutes want to have somebody that takes care of the business end, they should be able to have a pimp. I have no moral problem with that. But from what we've seen, he may have been a little a little on the rough and like not really a voluntary type relationship with the girls. But you know, just because he was charged doesn't mean that he's guilty either. I do think he's somewhat gay though.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Andrew Tain. How? In what sense of the word?

SPEAKER_00 23:41

There's a certain thing aura about him that's a little gay. Okay. You know, like the men that wear shirts that are completely unbuttoned down the chest kind of st thing. Men that like to roll around with other men doing MMA.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Okay. I I don't think MMA is gay. It's a little gay. It's a little gay.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Not as gay. I mean, it's not as gay as Greco-Roman wrestling, but it's still pretty gay.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Okay, so just for the record, and I know you're gonna make fun of me for this, but I've done martial arts literally since I was five years old. Yep. I have my black belt in Taekwondo. I've done judo jujitsu and a little bit of krov, and I did freestyle wrestling in high school as one of my sports.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Yep. And I ran track. Thanks for making my point. You know, I I I sent you a or I I I shared a video in that group, you may not have watched it, which I titled as This Is the Most Non-Gay Wrestling I've Ever Seen, which is a very interesting sport that I guess popped up. It's basically guys that are doing MMA type stuff, right? They're rolling around in the floor, wearing full suits and ties, and with guns and knives. And uh they're obviously not loaded guns, and the knives are plastic, but the point is they're taking something that is a quote unquote gay sport and turning it into something that is actually more practically applicable, which is a defensive application of it, more like Krav Maga would be. I mean, like I think that's not a gay sport.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

Well, I mean, Krav, you're going to the ground and doing the same things you would be in wrestling.

Regional Fallout And Media Narratives

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Krav, you're you're poking out eyeballs and kicking balls. I mean, it's a little different. Yeah. And you're you're also not like lubed up and naked, unlike Greco-Roman wrestling.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

Anyway, the war with Iran is going well from all accounts. The intercepts, we've been able to intercept over 90% of the munitions that they fired at us and Israel. We've only got some soldiers.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Definitely some calls.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

I mean, yeah, when you're only at 90%, some stuff's gonna get through, right? Yeah, but we've only had a few of our personnel at some bases hit, some radar dishes, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

I started watching a video earlier today.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

And then fucking Kuwait had to shoot down three F-15s. Oh, fucking Kuwait is right, man.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

I I'm not buying that that was accidental. I think there was somebody that just doesn't like America working there. I think that's a more likely scenario. Is they they figured this would be a way to blame it on an accident, but I don't buy it. Also, the fact that they're using our anti-air missile defense systems to shoot down their own planes does kind of tell you that our missile defense is better than our planes. Well, then our plane's ability to evade missile defense.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Well, the F-15, though, is an aging platform, right? The they're basically the F-15 has been transitioned to an electronic warfare plane. It is not a frontline fighter anymore. You know, the F-15 growlers are literally using anti-raid radiation missiles to take out air defense. That's what they're there for. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Well, either way, I I don't I wouldn't want to make sure that we have a very thorough investigation into this because I just if it was one plane, I would be a lot more likely to buy that it was a mistake. But taking out three American planes sounds like a freaking plan.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

I disagree, and the reason why I'll say that is they were flying in formation, right? They were on a sortie, and if you're gonna fire missiles, you're gonna fire missiles at everything in the sorty.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

So you think they just said so many missiles up in the air that they just took all the planes out?

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Yes, that three planes went down.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

They didn't shoot three missiles, they shot obviously way more than that. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I I I don't like it. I don't trust Kuwait. Kuwait drilled horizontally into Iraq. That should tell you everything you need to know about the mentality of the country. Don't trust them. But uh either way, I don't know if there's anything else to talk about the the whole progression of Iran stuff. Oh, I know, I was gonna mention the watch the video. Somebody somebody started off the video by saying, you know, I want to start off on a sad note uh because I want to take a moment to remember the 800 plus Americans that have been killed by IRGC. And I was like, what did I miss? Oh shit, what what did they hit? They hit an aircraft carrier and sink it or whatever. And then he talks a little more and then he says, now of course that's not just from today, that's the last 47 years. I'm like, oh you motherfucker. Like, yeah, you totally, totally got me, totally got me. But it is a fair point that it's not like they've been a peaceful country the way some people would like to portray them, and only fighting Israel. No, they've been killing Americans literally every year for 47 years. And they started this whole thing by taking American hostages.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Yeah. Anyway, the uh the Ayatollah and their the regime needs to go. Uh liberated Iran is gonna be good for everybody. But you know, I'm I'm happy that we're not putting boots on the ground.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

But Ben, we're just fighting the war for the Jews.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

I mean, actually, I think you support that. I think the Kurds are gonna get more out of this than anybody else if they go into Kurds.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Yeah, the Kurds are very likely to get a country out of this.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Which they've needed for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Yeah, they really got screwed by the U.S. as far as I'm concerned, during Iraq.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Because they totally should have gotten the country at that point.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Which, by the way, everybody's pissed off at Iran. Everybody's jumping in on this. You know, we're we're literally seeing the entire Middle East. We we saw Saudi Arabia tell Israel and the US, but Israel as well, you're free to use our airspace and our bases. Yeah. Holy fuck. Saudi Arabia just said Israel, Israel, Israeli military is welcome here.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

Where did you have that on your Migo card for 2026? Because I sure didn't.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Because I had it for 2020. Because remember, they were literally a week away from signing the Abraham Accords when October 7th happened. And and Israeli obviously strikes back immediately, put all the Abraham stuff on hold. So a lot of people said that the timing for that attack on Israel was specifically to interrupt the largest Middle Eastern country, Saudi Arabia, by territory, not by population, but to interrupt them from becoming part of the Abraham Accords. You know, the the likely next ruler of Iran, which is the I don't, I don't I'm not even sure, I guess, technically what his title is. I get the king, the shah. I guess the the Shah of Iran in exile. He has been on interviews daily. He's out there quite a bit.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

He he he's trying to get the job.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Yeah, he's definitely trying to get I I think it'll be very there's a very small chance that he doesn't simply because there will be a second popular uprising if somebody else is put in charge and not him. Because the support that he has is shockingly large. I I think there are more people that like him than like the British royalty.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

Which by the way, Trump has used this Iranian conflict to fuck over the Brits and end part of the North Sea Nexus.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Which is great. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

By doing the shipping insurance and undercutting Lloyds.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

Lloyds of London. Uh-huh. Cutting them out of the well, I guess people technically can still use Lloyds of London. It's just there'd be no point to it because the US is cheaper and has less probability of not paying. Exactly. So when a war happens, this is true of any large conflict, the insurance rates just skyrocket for shipping.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Yeah, especially transiting through that area.

Bo Gritz, Vet Culture, And Influence

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Well, yeah, yeah. It's exactly. But even if you're not, they're just generally start going up. And so Lloyd's has tripled and in some instances quadrupled their insurance fees on ships transporting oil and other materials like that. And I'm sure the quadrupling is more of ships that specifically are in that area. And the Trump administration has basically come out and said, Oh, we'll uh we'll go ahead and provide insurance for anybody that wants it. And do it at a much lower rate than what Lloyd's is doing, from what I've heard, about two and a half times cheaper. So it is a big fuck you to Britain in a lot of ways, as it should be.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

We're backing that up also with naval escorts.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Right. Right. Yeah. Which means we're not gonna have to pay out.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

Exactly. So what else related to the war?

SPEAKER_01 33:56

Well, that's all I've really got, but in relation to the war, if you don't have anything else, I've got some.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

In relation to the war, yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Well, no, kind of segueing to another topic. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

So on the 27th of January, and I've kind of got mixed feelings about this, but a very heavily decorated Vietnam vet, Bo Greitz, James Beau Grights, passed away at 87.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

I have known Bo since since I was probably about six or seven years old. My family went to some of his spike classes, specially prepared individuals for key events. His son's one of the guys who taught me how to shoot Mill Dot. His son was Delta Force guy. Bo was a Green Beret. He's one of the most decorated officers to come out of Vietnam. Lots about his stuff is still classified. But he, you know, he was a flawed character, a lot like Trump, in that he had issues, but he was a patriot and pretty good man. And you know, him and Jack McClam are the ones who got Randy Weaver to come off Ruby Ridge.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

And like I said, I've known Bo forever. He was my neighbor and friend. And learned a lot from him. But Bo, so during Vietnam, he was one of the Green Berets over in Laos in Cambodia, you know, on the Ho Chi Minh Trail. Illegal. Yeah, well, after Vietnam, he did a lot. And when he retired, he was one of the guys who went over and trained the Muaja Dean to fight Russia in a quote unquote civilian role for the CIA. Right. And yeah. He ran for president on the populist ticket in the early 90s.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

And really, I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Yeah, yeah. And anyway, I've he gave me a copy of his book and dedicated it and all that.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

And anyway, just I'd shared natural causes.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

I yeah, I assume.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

He was pretty old.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

Yeah, I haven't heard anything otherwise. Yeah. Anyway, I put a tweet out there to the fat electrician to try and get him to do an episode on him. So if anyone wants to go retweet that, please do, because I would I would love to hear those stories told from that perspective.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

Yeah, the fat electrician is a great storyteller, and I think any topic story that he tells is going to be very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Oh man, I remember him teaching me how to Australian repel and shit like that. And you know, I I I I had paramilitary training as a kid, Gene. That's how you'd classify it.

CIA, NSA, And Text-Based PsyOps

SPEAKER_00 37:07

But no, no, you used to live on the compound. I get it. It wasn't a compound. They were just all getting you ready for your CIA post.

SPEAKER_01 37:14

Uh-huh. No CIA post for me.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Just like what a CIA guy would say. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Anyway, that's the other thing to talk about. Holy shit, the NSA and CIA have been active in this war. Yeah. Like hacking Iranian state TV so Trump's address goes out to them. Which is texting the leadership on their phone saying you really ought to like holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 37:41

No, not leadership. They're literally texting on the ground troops, soldiers. Like they have lists of the phone numbers of just individual people that are in IRGC military. And they're texting them basically in Farsi saying, You don't need to go to work. This war is over, and everybody knows it. The best thing you can do. Don't risk your life. Yeah, yeah. It's it's basically it's psychological warfare, obviously. It's the same thing like in the old days that they used to drop little pamphlets for business cards.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

This is a little bit more. It's a lot more high-tech. Yeah. We we've got you.

SPEAKER_00 38:19

Yeah. And I I think when people start getting texts from the president of the United States, they're gonna throw away their phones because they know the next thing that's coming is the phone's gonna blow up because the Israelis have some kind of C4 inside of it.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

Or they're gonna use the GPS signal and drop a fucking bomb on my head.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

Oh, well, yeah, yeah. So I think that is working because again, like I can't confirm any of this stuff, but from what it appears to be, I'd say it's roughly 10% of the population, maybe 10-12%, that still support IRGC. And the remaining 85% to 87% are all for America taking out IRGC and then bringing in the Shah, or at the very least, some other type of government. There is certainly a small wing of socialists in this revolution as well, that are trying to use this as a a vehicle to get rid of the religious government and then bring in a more socialist government, but they're a fairly small minority, and they're kind of writing the coattails of a much bigger group that is pro-bringing back the the Shah of Iran. Well, it'll be interesting to see how that's incidentally relating to Trump's answer to that question when he was asked, is like, have you talked to me? You know, is he the your next choice to bring in? Trump said, Well, you know, I'd I'd like to see somebody that's like actually there right now and closer to the truth. Like, that is the absolutely proper answer for Trump because even if Trump has been in talks with Reza, and that is the plan, is to get him in there. The last thing you want to do is tip your hat and tell everybody, oh yeah, go ahead and assassinate him because he's the most likely next ruler. The the thing you want to do is always just kind of keep him off and distance until he can actually fly safely to Iran, at which point you can then announce it. So we don't know, obviously. I don't have any direct inside knowledge of Trump's decision making here, but regardless of whether Trump does or does not think that he's the appropriate person to lead the next phase of Iranian government, what he said is the same answer in either scenario. Would you agree with that? I do, I do.

Cartels, Latin America, And Trade Leverage

SPEAKER_01 40:51

So the next thing uh we can talk about is the America's war on the cartels. And I'll we'll kick it off by talking about another guy we lost a few years ago that I knew through the same group as Bo, and that's Ben Dacy. So Ben Ben's the guy who taught me how to reload and do lots of stuff. And Ben was a wild character after he got out of the military. He was smuggling opium and guns for them for the Taliban. Yep. And like he he just was lived a crazy life. But anyway, holy shit, we are going after the cartels like crazy, dude. Like the only reason why this isn't front page news is because of Iran.

SPEAKER_04 41:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Have you paid attention to what we've been doing, like with Ecuador and so on?

SPEAKER_00 41:49

I haven't heard anything about Ecuador. What's going on there?

SPEAKER_01 41:51

Oh, well, we just took out a whole bunch of cartel members in Ecuador. Really? Yeah. And Pete Heggseth talked at a conference for the Americas and talking about security and everything, and basically called out all the Latin American countries and said, We're gonna do this. Yeah, you can either be part of it or you cannot help us. But if you don't help us, not gonna go good for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:22

Yeah, and I'm loving that tone. It's it's the thing that makes me like Rubio so much. Is it's not this wishy-washy kind of you know, let's not offend our friends kind of mentality that every president's had until Trump. It's this very I don't think it's mean or or even in the very least emotional. It's just very matter-of-fact. This is what we're going to do. Now, if Europe doesn't want to join us, then they won't, and then they will be cut out from all trade. So it's their choice, you know, which is pissing Europeans off to no end. But well, the you saw Spain capitulated immediately. Yeah, yeah. Oh, pfft, dude. Spain is playing by the friends playbook. Threaten, threaten, threaten, and then immediately capitulate. Yeah. Because well, then you saw what happened as Trump said, look, you know, according to Supreme Court, uh, they they've basically said, I have the power to regulate trade, meaning what's what's the word uh, but essentially to block all trade, right? With a country not imposed tariffs. So there's a question of whether he can or cannot do tariffs, but it's with no question that he can simply say no trade with this country. And so he says, Yeah, so I think we're probably gonna impose that on Spain in the next two weeks. Anybody can go online and look at what percentage of the Spanish GDP comes from trade with America. And it's I guarantee you it's more than people think. And uh obviously their their biggest trade is with Europe, obviously. But they're in Europe, but yeah Yeah, which is why but that that would basically send Spain and any other European country into a complete downfall.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

decline inflationary you know Germany circa World War I type scenario yeah so we're trade with the US constitutes over four percent of their GDP four percent yep I think that's on the low side because there are there are a lot of materials that well this is what AI says so yeah well you know what I think of AI mm hmm by the way looks like Rubio's handling the Cuba negotiations yeah which is great he's gonna end up being the dictator of Cuba here for the US before too long little Marco no I I think I I I think the Donro doctrine is in full effect I think we're seeing it people are saying how is starting a war with Iran America first it's like because it's taking away a point of instability that will distract us it's also taking away China's major oil supplies guess what we did that twice Venezuela and now Iran China is fucked on the open oil market from a from a great game perspective everything that has happened this year and last in the right order yeah and in the right order.

Europe, Energy, And NATO Tensions

SPEAKER_00 45:47

Right it's like somebody was planning this it's amazing but everything that's happened is more against China than anybody else. Yeah absolutely if you're China watching what we're doing in Latin America and Iran yeah you're sitting there going fuck my air defenses don't work yeah fuck the hypersonics they can shoot them down we didn't we weren't able to touch their boats this isn't gonna work I can't get Taiwan well and the one thing that Iran is for both China and Russia is what what Ukraine was for the US which is a place that's not your own country to watch how well your weapons perform because Ukraine was absolutely that for the U.S. It was a testing ground of a lot of bad weapons the bad news for them is that weapons work and theirs aren't yeah exactly the amount of power projection like the so just to to be clear to everybody everything we're doing is two aircraft carrier strike groups plus a few extra planes right that's the firepower we've brought we have 11 super carriers yeah we have 11 of these groups we only took two but we literally probably didn't know because we we also have 18 air bases surrounding Iran so there there's there's already a substantial amount of power that was in the region before the aircraft carriers right but m the point still remains you know the yeah no I I get it so Spain is the 22nd largest US trade partner so you know that's that's still significant about 70 billion dollars 70 billion dollars yeah yeah yeah which is about four percent of Spain's GDP yeah well still quite a bit oh yeah they don't want to lose that yeah and they're already at 10% tariffs right now yep by the way another country's about to declare war on Ukraine who's that Hungary oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I guess we didn't talk about that last show yeah so you Ukraine blew up a I don't I guess it wasn't just a pipeline it was a it was it it was not a refining facility it was like a distribution facility or something basically they blew up a a pipeline thing that was predominantly sending oil from Russia to Hungary and Slovakia or Slovenia shit I can't remember both of them are now pissed off yeah well naturally because they're now the good news is they're coming out of winter the bad news is their primary importation of fuel has been now disrupted and Ukraine right away is like oh well you could use our pipeline then get get oil from us instead like no you you can't fucking do that you can't blow up somebody else's resource and then say buy it from us instead well us can do that but Ukraine can't do that yeah that's not like those but again like the reason I did it is because those two countries were more sympathetic to Russia from the get-go though this was not random this was not like oops this was clearly a fuck those guys kind of scenario I think it'll be interesting to see how we respond on several items because isn't Hungary in NATO yeah yeah so that's an attack on a NATO country and Hungary I think is a country that and you know Iran attacked a NATO country he did yes I was gonna bring that up as well yeah which is shouldn't be a NATO country but yeah well but they should they should trigger Article 5 get this shit over with obviously not going to but yeah yeah it's uh the whole NATO thing is a joke anyway the US would be the only country that ever comes to anybody's defense everybody else would like send one guy you know it's it it's such a well it's because they don't have much of a military to begin with no they don't have a military and they have a large political population that is against military action for almost any reason so yeah you know your your message from last show about Germany feeling very strange about left out of war being left out for World War III exactly like that is that is pretty damn funny I I have to say that was definitely funny but yeah I I don't know man I think we're not even a week into the war yet where I think it's also questionable whether it needs to be called a war or not it all depends on where it goes from here but certainly Iraq gave the US a huge present when it started attacking US bases around the Middle East because a lot of those rockets hit civilian targets and that pissed off a lot of countries.

SPEAKER_01 51:12

Well when you hit Dubai and you hit civilian hotels in Dubai and Qatar yeah they're gonna get fucking pissed off yeah junkie yogurt was saying well this is this is just being misrepresented they didn't attack all these Arab countries they attacked the U.S.

SPEAKER_00 51:30

bases in those countries which they rightfully had a a right to do because they were attacked by the U.S. first so this is really their response by attacking US bases that are scattered around Iran I mean it's it's certainly an interpretation of what's going on but even if all of that just take it as true the fact that they hit a whole bunch of civilian targets indicates either that their targeting is absolute horseshit or that this is a lie and they were actually targeting civilians which wouldn't surprise me either so which you know it's like take your pick they have shitty targeting or they have good targeting and they were targeting civilians.

SPEAKER_01 52:17

One of the other possibilities here is and I think this is a possibility the command structure in orb in order to target the missiles has broken down because we've killed so damn many of them. Yep and what is happening is whatever the target that was last programmed in there that's what they're going with yeah but you think somebody programmed the the Birch Khalifa in there?

Texas Elections And Party Infighting

SPEAKER_00 52:48

Yes that would be crazy okay I mean the Ayatollah and the that that regime is not exactly you know super smart insane I know but that would be like you know Israel having its nukes programmed to hit Mecca I guarantee you they do no they don't because that's a suicide but you don't you don't want to rile up the other people more than necessary you want people to be sympathetic to what you're doing. This is why like the US is seen as fighting the IRGC not the Iranian people. The US is telling the Iranian people stay home stay safe and we'll let you know when this fight is over and you can have a new government you know if we started like attacking things that made people be pissed off because we're taking out Iranian national landmarks that would result in a very different reaction I think so I think they handed the whether intended or not they handed the a US the US a tremendous gift by attacking all these other Middle Eastern countries whether regardless of whether they had shitty targeting or whether they had good targeting and just hit crappy targets. I mean it's like I totally understand everything that they're targeting in Israel and incidentally everything that they've been targeting in Israel is civilian. They have not targeted any military assets in Israel whatsoever. Every crater that you see an image of is in the residential area that's by design that's how terrorism works it's it's supposed to scare somebody from responding back to you. That that is the direct intent of terrorism what the US has been doing is bombing military targets and then when the IRGC has a faulty missile that hits a school a school for girls apparently because they have you know you can't have men next to women because they're gonna rape them if they're next to them. So they have to have segregated schools it instantly becomes a this is what the Jews and the Americans are doing. They're just trying to kill all the young girls in Iran and it's just such obvious blatant lies but people like Tucker are going to keep promoting them over and over. Speaking of Tucker you saw the so there's one recent clip of Tucker where he he does his usual thing which is saying well this hasn't really been reported but we know that there have been Mossad agents arrested in two Arab countries in Qatar and in Saudi Arabia because they wanted to blow up you know targets and create false flags. So he says this in a way that is very you know nonspecific. That this is happening well to the point where Qatar and Saudi Arabia had to actually release official statements and say there are no agents that we are aware of and we have not apprehended any Musad agents and that we have not seen any you know anything done by Israeli agents in our countries.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

I don't know why people are still watching Candace Islands.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

Yeah I don't either and like she's been inventing ship shit for literally six months and it became apparently very very early on that this is a woman scorned this is this is someone that is completely off their rocker because the guy that they thought they were going to get to marry married somebody else so she ends up marrying this gay British guy and then you know when Charlie dies she blames this woman for Charlie's death because she was in love with Charlie. Like everybody can see right through it. This is a woman scorned kind of a thing unrequited life story and her mission now is take down the ex-wife or I shouldn't even say ex-wife the the last wife the widow of Charlie Kirk and it is disgusting is absolutely disgusting and everything she's been putting out has been disproven and there have been people that have shown exactly how to recreate the text messages that she allegedly had from Charlie talking about how you know he was just on the verge of telling people that that Israel is truly the the real Satan and people have to turn away from like all this bullshit that Charlie never said that the guy literally had a book that wasn't yet published when he died that's recently been published where he talks about the benefits of doing Shabbat of how Charlie as a Christian is following the Jewish tradition of the Saturday Sabbath. Like that's what his latest book is about the the one that's published after his death and he talked about that book while he was still alive when he talked about writing it so it's just crazy crazy shit and I'm I'm definitely like I I knew that about half the population in this country were morons because they vote Democrat that's an easy measure I didn't realize that another 10 to 15% were morons on the other side that's the part that to me was a surprise and and made me a little more sad is like wow like I I think the US average IQ is actually below 100 now okay I went off on my mom the other night because she said something similar the average IQ can never be below a hundred sure it can. No it can't yeah it depends on what you're using by definite by definition let me finish 100 is average IQ let me finish saying what I'm saying it depends on what you use as your data set. If you're comparing the IQ of the entire world which we do all the time when we say things like oh the average IQ in Pakistan is 79 well that is based around the entire world to determine an average and then show the deviation from the average this is clearly what I'm referring to when I say the average IQ in the US is now less than 100 I'm not saying if you only look at the US the IQ is less than 100 because that's just a stupid statement and the fact that you would think that I would say something like that in that meaning shows a bit of a disrespect towards me.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:41

Well I just had this conversation the other day because my mom did not understand that average is a hundred it was very frustrating.

Health, Horses, And Bite Stories

SPEAKER_00 1:00:48

Remember I have an IQ 187. Uh-huh that's that's what my profile says yeah so you also says you're six something yeah I'm I'm also direct descendant of Jesus so you just gotta believe man anyway you want to talk Texas elections because whole yeah let's do that that's uh that is definitely a thing you want to start with the good news or the bad news let's start with the fucking great news okay which one do you want to Brandon or uh getting rid of the pirate uh yeah iPatch McCain is gone baby Jasmine Crockett is gone baby yeah we totally got rid of the what's the other guy that got rid of what's the other guy that we got rid of what's his name the the black guy that always holds up the signs and yells at Trump during the state of the year we get I didn't know we got rid of him yes we got rid of him Jeffries Jeffries right no not Hakeem Jeffries oh which one which black guy oh the the uh the crazy guy yeah the crazy old guy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's I'm blanking on his name right now but I can see his face I've been on a flight with that motherfucker really that's hilarious or out of DC I guess you guys are both going to DC all the time that's true DC in Houston yeah yep yeah that's that is good I didn't realize he was out of there that's very good news indeed we also uh passed the the what do you call the the the citizen based initiatives that are yeah all of them passed but the but those are non-binding so well the but they're what they are is an indic an indicator politically to the legislature of what the populace is willing to vote for aka if you oppose this shit you'll get voted out and the specifically the one that I'm smiling about is the one that says that there shall be no sharia law in Texas. So that that is very good. The rest of them were pretty good too but that one specifically is a major thing because the the percentages that we got on it is like 90% of the Texas population supported that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:00

Yeah it's Al Green by the way Al Green yeah yeah yeah the famous musician yeah anyway it's it's gonna be interesting man because we got some good stuff Kim Paxton's taking Cornyn to a runoff where he's although Corny got a huge percentage of the vote.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:21

He got a he didn't get over 50 and yeah but he got way more than I was hoping for right I I agree it Tony Gonzalez is being pressured by House leadership to drop out to just leave yeah yeah yeah yeah and Trump uh when asked about his support for Gonzalez said that he will not be renewing his support right and he hasn't endorsed Corny either no so these are all good things I I think I would have loved to have seen just an outright victory from Ranon friend Herrera well he did win he just didn't get over 51% he didn't get over 50% yeah is it 50 or 51 I thought it was over 50. You have to have a fifth over 50% you have to have a clear pass the button like 50 and one person basically 50.1 because somebody had that oh the the what's his name the uh ipatch McCain the guy that actually won won with 51% yep so no runoff in there so he's just done done yep which is awesome because he which brandon could be done done if Tony Gonzalez drops withdraws yeah exactly and last election Brandon got to within what 500 votes something like that four yeah 400 votes and this time in the primary he actually won like he had the most just not over 50% so I think he's in pretty good shape but everyone's just gotta keep pumping that pedal just post about Gonzalez and and the fact that his the woman he had an affair with killed herself as a result of that affair. Well allegedly if you like I think it's pretty obvious we saw the text messages we saw what he was texting her. The fact that she killed herself immediately thereafter is a pretty good indicator. But do you think she killed herself what do you think he killed her?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

I don't I I who the fuck killed her self-imulation Buddhist monks sure that she doesn't sound like that a Buddhist fucking monk to me no probably not no you're right it is a bizarre way for somebody to kill themselves so I guess you know technically it could have been her husband her her last words to her mother when she found her burned were I don't want to die which is fairly common you know for suicide attempts that people to oh god repeal this yeah but I'm telling you it doesn't seem like I just don't see someone killing themselves through self-animalation instead of just a gun or overdose or yeah the most common method for women is an overdose the most common for men is is a gun cutting is is actually less than you'd think. Women are more likely to try suicide and men are more likely to succeed.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:20

Well yeah and that works with the method because the the getting your stomach pumped quickly enough will prevent the suicide from being successful. Whereas a gunshot to the head not much you can do so what would be your preferred method if you ever decided to commit suicide Oh I'd eat a bullet I think lead poisoning takes a long time dude. There's gotta be a faster method.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:47

That's not what I meant, but okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:49

I mean, you're gonna go dumb first. I don't I don't think that's a good way to go. Yeah, I don't know. I I also think that like suicides with a gun just send the wrong message about gun ownership. So I would never commit suicide using a gun. You heard it here. Because that that is just contrary to my beliefs and gun rights. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:19

So where do we go from this topic?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:22

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:23

You kind of just I kinda killed the buzz a little bit, didn't I? Damn. Oh yeah, preferred method of suicide. There that'll be in our AI description of the show on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:33

I'm sure I'm sure. So I'm doing physical therapy for the issues I've been having.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

And you want to talk about it? Jesus. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

No, I'm not gonna talk about all of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

But it's really interesting because it there's a possibility that this was all caused by an injury to my back.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:57

Yeah, that's not surprising.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:58

So where I've got a lot of muscle issues right where all the nerves from my growing connect to the spine. And so we're working on some of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:10

And uh you fall off a horse, or what what what happened?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:13

No, I I don't have anything that would directly connect this to it's I thought you fell off a horse some reason. Have in the past, but not recently. No, no, I mean in the past. I don't mean recently. I've fallen, uh yes, I've fallen off a horse. I've had a horse roll over me, I've had a horse kick me, I've had a horse bite me. What do you yes?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:32

Yeah, those are all potential.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:35

Yeah.

Supreme Court Rulings And Gun Policy

SPEAKER_00 1:08:36

If the horse bites you just in the right spot, you can have some issues down there. Okay. I'm trying to make levity of the situation, dude. Yeah. By the way, how I've never been bitten by a horse. I've fed a horse's apples before, but I've never been bitten. How strong is their bite?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:56

All right, so the time I was bitten by my horse Coco, which was a quarter horse, I was in the paddock trying to put a lead rope on her, and I slipped and I hit her under the jaw because it was muddy. I slipped and I hit her under the jaw with the latch, and she just reached out and nipped my chest. And my entire left side of my pectoral and everything was bruised purple, just deep bruised, and it was just a nip for weeks. Damn.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:30

Yeah.

unknown 1:09:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:32

I mean, I guess they have big heads, so that kind of makes sense, but really they don't like they don't really chew, right? They just kind of grab grass, pull it up, and then swallow it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:42

Yeah, they chew, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:44

I mean, but those teeth are in the back.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:46

I I know, I just don't think of a horse as having a strong bite force.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

They do.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:53

And if you as long as you're you either want to walk really far away from a horse or right behind them. And the reason why you want to be real close behind them is if they do kick, you're not gonna get hurt as much. If you're but if you if you're at the full extension of their leg, you're screwed.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:12

Oh, I see what you mean. I was like, don't you want to be beyond the extension of their leg? Like that the they're gonna miss the kick.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

Yeah, you want to be either beyond or close, is the entire point.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:24

You don't want to be Well, don't you want to be on the side of the horse so you don't get kicked?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:28

Right, but sometimes you have to walk behind a horse.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:31

Why would you do that?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:33

I think it's because you need to go around them.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:36

You're better off walking around the nose side, aren't you?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:39

Yeah, but if they're tied, uh you can't always do that, trust me.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I I've never ridden a horse. I've been around horses, I've never ridden a hair. I've been on camels, I've been on elephants, I've been on three. Bunch of different critters have never been on a horse.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:59

I've had three horses in my life.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:01

Yeah. And what how big are they? Like you said, this one was a quarter horse.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:06

Yep. How many hands is it? Oh, she was probably about what 17, 18 hands.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:13

It's pretty good size.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:14

Yeah. And then my Arab Tara, she was 16 hands. And then Tara's daughter, Ezri, which yes, is named after Ezri Dax from DS9. Of course. Sold her before she was an adult, so don't know how tall she got. But she was an Arab quarter horse mix. And I gotta tell you, I love the Arab horses. They are smart, they are they have a hell, they have they have more personality than just about any other animal I've ever been around. So, like Tara, my dad, he would try and get on her and she would buck and she would be pissed off and didn't want him on her. But I could walk up to her and I could jump on her bare back, I could do anything, I could drop the reins and just use my legs, and she would do whatever I wanted. You know, because she was my horse and just follow you around like a dog almost, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:19

Yeah, I I've watched uh, you know, I'd say about 10% of the videos that I get recommended on YouTube are animal videos. And it's nice to get all the political crap broken up by cute animal videos, frankly. Because otherwise it's just all black pill shit all the time. And yeah, there's some cool horse videos out there. There's also plenty of videos of people getting kicked by horses, which does not look like a fun experience whatsoever.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:48

No, it does not. It is not.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:49

No, I would be a lot more likely to own like a a sheep or a goat than a horse, I think. Because I mean, getting rammed by a sheep going at you with its head is not gonna feel good either, but it's probably more avoidable than the horse's legs.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:11

I've been hit by a belly goat, and it yeah, it sucks, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:15

I so you know when I was a kid, I grew up running.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:21

Oh, that's awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:25

That is hilarious. You know, of all the countries that might actually be able to put them in jail and keep them there, that's probably one.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:34

Oh, yeah, because they don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:38

Well, two things. One, they don't give a fuck. Two, he's an Arab, or not an Arab, sorry, he's a Muslim. And so he has to do what he's told. And three, they don't like bad press. And Tate tends to give bad press to countries, so you know, like Romania just wanted to get rid of them. Saudi Arabia might say, say, we found a video of you doing something haram here. You're gonna lose your arm.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:10

Interesting. So we'll we'll see. Yeah.

Gaming: Dune, Half-Life, And 3D Nostalgia

SPEAKER_00 1:14:14

I mean, I hope the guy is alright, just from a human standpoint, but he does have a big mouth, and the big mouth in a country like that can get you into trouble.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:25

Oh yeah. Just just look what happened to Shik Shikogee or whatever his name was. Mm-hmm. Khashoggi. Khashoggi. Yeah. So where was I gonna go? Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:40

Oh, I so I've got a story which I think I've told before on the snake. That one and only time that my snake ever bit me was a similar situation to what you describe. It was still fairly small at the time. I think it was about 10 feet long. And I was talking on the phone, and it was crawling around the floor around my legs, and and it when I since I was talking on the phone, I guess I wasn't paying attention too much, and I kind of started stepping towards the kitchen, and I stepped on the snake's tail. And I didn't put my whole weight down on it. You know, as soon as I noticed that this doesn't feel like the floor, like there's I'm stepping on something, I like lifted my foot up right away. But what was interesting about that is you know, the snake, even though it wasn't full size yet, it was like I said, still about 10 feet long. It probably took it about two seconds, maybe even three seconds, for the head to come around to where the tail was, and it came up and it bit me on my foot one time, and it was one of those kind of bite and release kind of movements. Like it was clearly a punitive bite, right? It wasn't a I'm gonna eat you bite. It was a what the fuck did you just do? Don't do it again. And it didn't hurt a whole lot, but it it looked really cool because the snake, it has so many teeth, and they're all basically needles. And so it has two rows of teeth, so there's an outside row of teeth and an inside row of teeth, kind of like the alien, which is like a normal thing for a lot of animals, including snakes. Uh so two rows on top, one row on the bottom. But so what I had is little tiny individual holes out of which blood was flowing in these two semi-arcs on top and one arc on the bottom. And it just it looked really cool. When I first saw it, I I I took a picture right away because I'm like, well, hopefully this will never happen again, so I better document this. And and obviously I was barefoot, you know. I the if I was wearing like loafers or something around the house, uh, or or you know, any kind of even socks probably, I would have barely had anything. But because I was barefoot, you know, I was able to bite right through the skin. Because those teeth are really sharp. They're not meant for chewing, they're meant for holding. Because it's yeah, it's gonna hold on to its prey while it kills it, and then just swallow it whole. And it took about a month for that to heal up because again, you know, a bunch of little needles going into you and they're not super long, they're probably like half an inch long. So it definitely punctured well beyond skin. This is not like a superficial bite, it's a bite that goes down to well, a half an inch into your flesh.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:48

So back to real news.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:52

That's a fun story. People like to hear fun stories.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:54

We got a rare 9-0 ruling out of the Supreme Court. Even though with the crazy bitch? Jackson was the author of the opinion.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:05

Oh my god. Okay, what was this on?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:07

On Trump's handling of immigration and whether or not the executive can unilaterally deport.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:16

So I assume they said yes?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:19

Yep. It is an executive function. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:22

Executive judges. Duh. Obviously it is, but it's still surprising that Kajabi Jackson didn't go against it.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:30

Yeah, I mean, it's so Trump, Trump won. No, no judicial warrants needed to go after people and so on.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:39

Obviously.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:40

It's yeah, it's it was a stupid argument.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:47

I'll tell you what, I think there's probably a lot of people that are pissed off right now at the Trump administration for hogging all the time that the Supreme Court has because they have a limited number of opinion or uh cases they go through. And in during Trump's administration, it kind of feels like there's a ruling about something Trump related every week.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:11

By the way, can we talk about another Supreme Court ruling that's gonna end up coming up based off of what West Virginia, Idaho, and Kentucky are doing?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:20

Which one's that? Are you talking about suppressors or which one?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:23

No, I'm talking about new machine guns.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:26

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You sent me that video. So I don't know much about it beyond the video I watched.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:31

Okay, so this started in West Virginia, but Idaho and Kentucky have also put bills forward and Texas. I'm talking to you, legislature, get off your ass. So basically, they're gonna use the Hughes Amendment against the NFA. So the Hughes Amendment says, you know, newer weapons can't be purchased by civilians, yada yada yada. So the 86 machine gun ban. No, nothing newer than 86. But municipalities, law enforcement agencies, and so on, and states can. But the Hughes Amendment also says that the states can transfer those weapons.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:10

So West Virginia is literally directing their Department of Public Safety, their DPS office, to set up shop to buy three different types of machine guns, and when requested by a civilian, sell and transfer the machine gun to said civilian.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:30

Yeah, so basically the government just becomes a flow through.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:34

Correct. Now, you may not ever be able to transfer that to someone else.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:38

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:39

It becomes yours permanently. You can't because, you know, and obviously the ATF is gonna say, well, this is straw purchases on behalf of the government. Like Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:50

Yeah, I mean, you know exactly what's gonna happen. The ATF is going to initiate a lawsuit against each of those states as soon as the laws pass, and say that these are in fact illegal actions by the states. In and then it does probably go up to the Supreme Court because then then you have an issue of states' rights versus Well, state versus federal government and all that, it's gonna be original jurisdiction to the Supreme Court. Yeah. Yep. So yeah, that'll be interesting because I don't think we're gonna get a 9-0 ruling on that one. The real question is, will the soft Republicans on the Supreme Court, which there's three of, how are they going to vote on this?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:36

Well, it'll be interesting, but you know what? I think it's brilliant. I think it's a good challenge, and I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:46

Yeah, uh, it's the whole concept of both silencers and machine guns. Well, I mean, it's even trickier with machines guns. At least you can buy a new silencer, you just have to pay for the stamp, which now the price is zero. So, you know, you just buy a silencer basically.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:03

Which, by the way, I'm looking at 3D printers. We need to talk.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:06

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll we'll talk offline. I've been I've been studying up on that quite a bit as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:10

Um so basically, you can form one as many items as you want. And, you know, some of the materials are good enough that on a caliber like 308, you should be able to get 500 to 1,000 rounds out of it. Yep. Which, huh? Okay.

Jungle Survival Games And Nature’s Teeth

SPEAKER_00 1:22:33

Yeah, I mean, at five bucks around, how many rounds are you gonna shoot?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:37

Well, what gun are you shooting? That's five bucks around.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:39

308s? 308. Federal match grade? That's the only thing I shoot.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:44

Well, that's stupid.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:46

Yeah, whatever. Whatever, man. I do have a whole bunch of IWI 308 ammo as well. That's cheaper.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:58

Well, I've got some Swedish stuff that's actually.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:00

And I and I won't be able to get any of IWI ammo for quite a while now, so.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:04

Yeah. They're they're they're plus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:09

Yep. But I just think it's it's it's you know, more befitting to shoot a gun with ammo created in the same company.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:20

Yeah. Well, anyway, that's not federal match, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:25

No, it's not, no. No, the federal match is what I shoot for deer hunting.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:30

When was the last time you went deer hunting?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:32

I did not live in Texas yet the last time I went deer hunting.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:36

Yeah, exactly. We should go get you out on some hogs out at the river.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:41

Yeah, I'd be up for that. Especially since I have my thermal site.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:53

Anyway. Yeah, so it's it's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:58

Yeah, uh well, and so what I started saying, the whole machine gun thing is ridiculous because we have the the what are those triggers called? The uh FRTs, not not the bias reset. Yeah, force reset FRTs. So because we have those that in a lot of situations actually fire faster than full auto. Like in an MP5, you have a faster firing rate with the FRT than you do with a the fully automatic variant of the gun. Which is hilarious. I think that it's just you know, it's a s it's a dumb law. Many laws are dumb laws, but it's a redundant law. It's a law that does nothing other than force people to use third-party parts instead of part. In fact, how cool would it be if some gun manufacturers actually started selling guns with FRTs from the factory?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:00

Yeah, that would be the way to go. It'd be very cool. We need to get with our other buddy Ben and tell him to ask his vendors.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:08

Yeah, exactly. Because that that to me seems like a well, it's kind of like what Springfield did as soon as people started using the uh the braces, right, instead of stocks. Is they started coming out with factory line guns that came with braces. No, they were the first ones to do it out of all the major manufacturers, like a good year before. Yeah, everyone's done it now. Everyone's done it. But they were the first ones that started that trend of actual factory guns with braces. So, yeah, I did I'd love to see that for the force three sets as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:46

Yeah, well, I think they're in too much legal limbo to be doing that.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:51

I don't know, man. I mean, the the rulings were for them. It's just the the problem is the two rulings that came out were both not universal rulings. So they were specific to the group. Like I've got my first reset, but you know, I I feel in ease of using it because I'm a member of the actually two different groups. Yeah, that's one of them, but two different groups that were part of the lawsuit. So covered in either scenario. But it really should be a universal ruling because the language is pretty clear. It's a bad law, but the language is what it is. You you can't pretend the language says something it doesn't. And the forced reset triggers require a pull of the trigger for every round fired.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:41

Right. And that's the the this whole thing hinges around the definition of a machine gun, is that it with a single trigger pull, it fires continuously.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:51

The forced reset trigger literally has a mechanism where you're pulling back on the trigger, but it forces that trigger forward enough to reset, and then you're just holding, so it's pulling back. So the trigger is literally thumping your finger underneath. It's the same thing as a it is an insane fucking walking. It's if you were pulling the trigger as fast as you could, same sort of deal, except mechanically faster.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:17

Yeah, definitely. You're you're like the stock MP5 has a acyclic rate of 550 rounds per minute. The same gun with an FRT installed has 700 rounds per minute. It's okay. It's pointless to get a fully automatic factory gun, even if they were available.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:39

And some of these force reset triggers basically are select fire because you can choose semi-auto.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:45

Yeah, or all of them that I've seen. Fully semi-auto. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:48

Either fully semi-auto or some of the super safeties are not.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:52

No? No. Really? I thought you could you turned a super safety.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:56

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:57

Or it's only safe and full semi? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:02

Okay.

Travel Plans: Bahamas To Scotland

SPEAKER_01 1:28:02

So you sent me Dune Awakening to get.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:06

I didn't send it to you to get. I told you I bought it today. I have not played it, but it got really good reviews.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:13

It's on sale for half off, so I got it.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:15

Which it's 40% off. Basically half. 10% less than half.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:23

Well, versus paying full price, which is what it was last week. I'd say it's basically half off. So I had a number of friends that bought it when it came out and they liked it, but I just didn't want to pay that much money because I have enough games that I like already. But at half price, he'll buy it. Or 40% off. I'm sorry. So is that something you're interested in?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:47

I mean, I I I'm a big Frank Herbert fan. I've read most of the damn Dune books, including some of the ones I've wrote I've read everything Frank Herbert has written. And uh uh as far as Dune goes, and the I've read the majority of Frank Herbert's books. I've even read quite a bit of what his son wrote, which isn't near as good.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:10

Yeah. Yeah, because his son continued on with the because there's what now, 11 Dune books or something?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:16

Yeah, and he he took it into it it makes my head hurt where he took it, but it's not good. Yeah, so I I will say By the way, God you you have you read the Dune books? I've read the first two. Okay, you have to read God Emperor.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:37

That's the third one, and it's my favorite of all of them.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:40

Oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:41

Like the like the the second book is really setting up for the third.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:46

I'll add it to my audible list.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:47

So the the first book is great. The second book is like it leaves you wanting.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:53

It does, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:54

The third book completely satisfies.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:57

Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, I think I just moved on to a different series after the first two. Because I read the first one in high school and then I think I read the second one in college.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:11

Yeah. God Emperor is my favorite of the original three Dune books.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:19

Well, maybe you ought to get the game then. I'm sitting here looking at it right now in Steam. Well, because you also asked me about the new Star Trek game, which I also bought. I'm like your concierge game reviewer, guy. And it was not very good. I was I was definitely disappointed. It looks like they spent all the money on buying the IP and barely had any to actually make the game.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:44

There hasn't been a good Star Trek game in a long time, unfortunately. And I asked you about Mech Warrior, and you said Mech Warrior 5 sucked, which is sad because I was disappointed in Mech Warrior V.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:56

I had another buddy that in fact, you know, Jesse, he bought it and could for the same reason, like nostalgia, because he he's actually right between our ages. And you know, he kind of played it, got me to buy it, and I got into it because it is multiplayer, and it was like this is not what I remember. It is very grindy and repetitive, and it just doesn't feel like you're really it just it feels like a cheap game. It doesn't feel like I you don't have that kind of excitement that I remember from playing Mech Warrior because you're inside the suit and you got all this cool shit. It it feels a lot more like a mostly a game of grinding out materials to buy a minor little upgrade that barely changes anything, and that's so much the fighting.

unknown 1:31:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:47

Well, that's sad because I loved Mech Warrior back in the day.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:50

Yeah, I got fond memories of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:52

Absolutely. I had one of my teachers in high school when I went to public school, he met his wife on them playing Mech Warrior.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:00

Really? That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:02

Yeah. So, have you played any more of Half-Life?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:08

No, just what I was playing when you were on.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:11

Okay. Yeah. I finally got Gene to play Half-Life.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:14

Yeah, I've never played it because I was, you know, actually like having fun with women and trying to make money back then.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:22

And we're playing, you're playing through the community upgraded graphics edition, so it's not, you know, 1998 graphics.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:29

It's barely, barely matter.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:32

Oh yeah, go install the original and tell me that.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:35

Okay, okay. But it's it is, you know, it's graphics where you can't really read the labels on anything because they're all too pixelated kind of looking graphics. And then like, because it is community updated, like, then certain things, like one or two of the monsters, will be really high resolution. And then everything else is back to low resolution. So yeah, that's alright. I mean, it's it's a fun enough game, it's just there, there's so many modern games that have the same or better level of enjoyment, but combined with high graphic quality.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:11

Right, but you gotta beat Half-Life before you can play Half-Life 2.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and for you, a big part of it is nostalgia, which I totally understand.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:20

Yeah, yeah. Um I mean, it's also the game that launched Valve, right? Right. It was their first major title.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:27

And it was pretty revolutionary.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember playing that on my Voodoo 3 graphics card, dude. Like I my first discrete GPU.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:39

Yep. Yeah, it's was '98, I think you said.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:46

Yeah, 1998.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:48

Yeah. And I think Mech Warrior 2 was the one that I played the most.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:56

I played Mech Warrior 2 some, but Mech Warrior 3 was the one that was the main one that it came out when I was really playing.

Big Jets, Seat Maps, And Airline Math

SPEAKER_00 1:34:05

Yeah. Well, the the Mech Warrior 2 in the mid-90s, I had 3D glasses back then, believe it or not. So this would have been, I think I got them in 95. 95 or 96. And they were LCD shutter glasses for use with a CRT display. So basically the glasses were plugged into a stereo port and then they were synchronized to the frame rate of the monitor where each eye was seeing alternative images. And the monitor is running at 60 hertz, so it's basically you're getting 30 hertz stereo vision, which made a lot of people kind of sick, you know. Yeah. But I loved it. I never had any issues, never made me sick. I had probably five or six games, including Mech Warrior, that I could play in immersive 3D like that. And one of the games was called Free Something or Other, I can't remember. But you're flying a spaceship, and it was one of the first games where you had six degrees of freedom. So you can go not just forward, back, left, and right, but you could go up and down. And I remember having a bunch of my friends try that game at my house, and everybody got sick. Like it was just I don't know. Just I guess not having having a slow refresh rate combined with not having your ears, your inner ear coinciding with what your eyeballs are showing you just has an effect on people. But I've I've always liked the that kind of 3D experience. And I've got you know glasses right now that I can plug in and use and play I could play Elite Dangerous in 3D, which is pretty cool. Why are you gonna do that? Well, 3D does look pretty cool. I mean it's you know, it's realistic. It's actually I think worse than having a large monitor when it comes to like combat gameplay. With combat gameplay removing 3D, I think actually makes it easier to focus on what you're trying to shoot. But for exploration and other shit, seeing things in 3D is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:29

I guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:32

Have you ever had the air glasses on?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:36

You didn't like it?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:39

Not particularly.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:40

Yeah? Which ones were they?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:44

Whatever came with my Samsung TV at the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:48

Oh, okay, okay. So you had a 3D TV. Correct. Back in the day, got it. Yeah, those were popular for a while. I think my dad still has one.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:55

It was a plasma.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that shit disappeared eventually. People just did not think it was worth the money to have that.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:03

Because it doesn't work worth a shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:05

Yeah, well, it VR glasses do work, you know, because they're right on your eyeballs, and you're seeing two different images in there. It's not alternating anything, it's just projecting at full frame rate right into your eyeballs. But I again I think there's some there's some applications where that makes a lot of sense, where it actually adds something to the game, makes it more more realistic looking. But there are also, just from a practical standpoint, things that it makes it more difficult. And I think combat, especially combat with six degrees of freedom, like in a spaceship, is actually easier if you're not in 3D. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:52

But installing the Green Hell game you sent me.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:57

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. That is so Green Hell. Gene has gotten me back into into gaming. This is the game review segment. Green Hell came out probably six, seven years ago. But when I got it, I found that it was the most realistic survival game ever. There's no monsters, there's no weird shit, there's no magic. Everything in that game is based on actual realistic things. Like plants, real plants, real methods of starting fire, real methods of cleaning water, like everything you do in it is a slightly simplified version, obviously, of the real world, but it is more close to the real world method than in any other games, which is also why it's probably the most difficult survival game out there. Uh, not again, not because of some supernatural force or monsters or zombies or bullshit like that, which I don't like, but because it's literally just you versus yourself in nature, and nature, you're in the Amazon in this game. Nature is very cruel, it doesn't care about your survival.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:11

Oh, you know what they say, nature is written tooth and claw.

Firefly Hopes, Conventions, And Reboots

SPEAKER_00 1:39:16

Yeah. And even something as dumb as you know, picking up a stick that has a a spike on it, like a needle, you know, natural bark on it, and getting a puncture in your skin, which if you're living in the suburban Austin is just not a big deal, you just get some antibiotics and you're good to go. But in the jungle without any drugs, could lead to a very quick and painful death. Or or maybe a slow, painful death would be more appropriate. And even things like laying down on bare ground to sleep without having shelter to raise you off the ground in the Amazon means you're gonna have parasites that have gnawed their way under your skin and are now laying eggs in you. Just the way it works down there. The closest I've ever been, I've never been to the Amazon. But I've I've been to Costa Rica and the the various jungle environments there, and it's and I've seen some of the the most deadly toxic animals that they have out there. And it is it is awe-inspiring because you realize that man hasn't conquered nature. Man has just pushed nature back a little bit. Man has divided nature. Yeah, given an opportunity, like they're like an abandoned nature station, you know, in a reserve. Doesn't look like that within two years. It is completely covered with greenery and different critters that are living in it and starting to fall apart. Like it it will not take even a hundred years to completely turn something that is a city into something that just looks like there was no city there at all. It is very fast. And in the jungles, now the further north you go, the longer that process takes because the plants only have a port a portion of the year to live. But in jungle environments where there's ample water and the plants are literally growing 365 days a year, and the animals, because of that availability of biomass from the plants, the animals grow quite big and reproduce quite quickly. Nature just takes its territory back very fast.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:44

Well, while we're semi-talking about travel, we should talk about the schedule for the next two weeks.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:49

Yeah, so we'll get to find out how good the quality is. So hopefully we'll do the next show when you're still in the US, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:56

Yep. So next show we're gonna do a little bit late after I get back from vacation. Yep. We're going down to Nassau to the Bahamas, going to Atlantis, and then after that, so I get back, I get back home. We get back to Texas Friday night, but we're gonna stay in Dallas and then drive down Saturday morning, and then I leave for Scotland on Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:26

So that'll be fun because you're planning visiting the the family. Yeah, yeah. Ben's got a castle in Scotland, so that should be fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:35

Yeah, somebody in my name does. Um anyway, yeah, gonna be going to gonna be going to Scotland, flying into Glasgow, and uh I'll actually be driving up to Perth. So I'm uh I'll be driving on the wrong side of the road, Gene. I don't know how I feel about this.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:53

Yeah, I it took me no time at all to adjust when I was in Ireland. It was very quick. And I had a stick car too, it wasn't automatic. So I was using my left hand for the gears. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:06

I've got an automatic. I told him I could take a stick, but I've got an automatic.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:11

And anyway, so I'll be I'll tell you the biggest the biggest thing I noticed, and you tell me after your trip if this was true as well, I suspect it is, is how narrow the roads are. Like the roads are barely a few inches wider than the car. And when you got oncoming traffic, especially like a bus or a lorry, and you're heading in the opposite direction past them, you you feel like you're you're gonna touch them.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:35

Gee thanks. Yeah, I've got to drive up to Perth. So I anyway, I'm gonna be there from Monday and then I leave Saturday.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:47

Yep. We'll do one show from there.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:50

Yep, we'll do one show from Scotland, and then the following week, I'm gonna be in Virginia.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:56

So I'm gonna be a traveling man for the next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:59

Yeah, you are, which is all right, and especially if you actually get a good quality mic. That'll be uh barely noticeable to people that you're traveling, other than the fact that we're gonna talk about your travels.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:09

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I've got a fly, so there is no great way to get to Glasgow unless I fly British Airways, which I don't want to because they're not Star Alliance. So I'm flying Luftanza from Houston to Frankfurt or Frankfurter to Glasgow.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:30

Okay. I'm not a fan of Lufthansa. The planes that I've been on that are Luftanza have been more sparsely amenity than just about every other American airline.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:43

So this gets me a united flight number on the trip over the ocean. So I will be basically by the time I get back from Virginia, I will have renewed platinum. Nice. Yes. And I'm in economy plus slash on the upgrade list for business. So whatever. Life flat seat's a lifelite seat. And you know, I I don't have it doesn't have to be great amenities. But Liftonza has Liftonza, I've flown them before, and you know, they're they're like American to me, right? Is about where I put them. I think they're United. Okay. Their customer service was good. They held the plane for me when I was good.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:34

Screw that's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:34

I was the last person on the plane.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:36

So yeah. Well, they canceled one of my flights.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:42

I really want to get on one of the lift-ons of flights that's still flying at 747.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:48

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:49

Wait, uh have you not ever flown on a 747?

SPEAKER_01 1:45:53

I've never been on a 747.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:54

Oh, so you just had the Airbuses.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:57

Yeah, I've been on the A320. Okay. Or in 80. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Been on the double decker Airbus, but not Boeing.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:05

Ironic. Yeah, I I had quite a few flights on those, and my favorite is definitely being upstairs. Yeah. Because you could just get a huge amount of room.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:16

The airlines are actually asking for Airbus and Boeing to bring back those production lines with updated engines.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:23

I read that.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:23

So I would I would love to see that. Yeah.

Universal Carry, Billboards, And Texas Maps

SPEAKER_00 1:46:27

Well, and that's honestly the biggest the biggest thing on why they're flying the 787s is because the fuel economy is so much better.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:37

But if you can get a bigger plane with better fuel economy.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:40

Yeah. What they really need to do is build a 797, which is a double decker 787.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:48

Yeah. Something like that. Do do do like Airbus did with the full double deck.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:56

Yeah, and I don't I mean, I don't know if they need even that much of it because I don't know. I mean, it's I guess that's that's really up to the people that understand shape plane shape and fuel economy and all that jazz. But certainly having a plane that is got a second row of scening upstairs, at least you can put like most of the the business class up there. And then have steerage downstairs would make total sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:31

Well, that's what that's what Emirates does.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:34

Is it so the downstairs is all regular?

SPEAKER_01 1:47:37

First class is front of upstairs, business is back of upstairs, yeah, and then premium economy is front of downstairs, basic economy is back of downstairs.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:49

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, because in the 747s, there were I think there were either eight or twelve first class, which were in the very nose of the plane in the first clo first level, and then behind them you had a few rows of business, and then the entire upstairs was business, and then the cheaper seats start after that downstairs. But it was so you could end up in business downstairs or upstairs, but I always try to book it upstairs because it was just uh like literally the amount of room you have is one and a half times as much upstairs as you do in business class downstairs. Because there's only it's two by two upstairs. And downstairs it's two by two by two.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:42

Gotcha. So you are a fan of Firefly, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:46

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:48

Have you seen what Nathan Fillion's been putting out?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:51

I I did, and I think it's a video game.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:55

You do? Yeah. That would be disappointing.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:00

I mean, I think. I'll tell you why, because there was an interview recently with Marina Bacarin, who was asked about, you know, would you go and reprise that role? And she said, nah, I'm done. And she was one of the characters that was still alive in the movie. And I think it'd be pretty hard to have a Firefly without her, given that she was one of the main draws to the show when it was first airing. So, but in video game form, they could totally resurrect Firefly and have a whole generation of people now either remembering it fondly by playing as one of the characters in Flying the Ship or by introducing it to a whole generation of people that never watched the show. So I I could be totally wrong. I'm not basing this on any. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:47

A lot of people are saying reboot.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:49

So uh but but if it was a reboot, would you think Nathan Fillen would be promoting it?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:58

Why?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:59

Because he's gonna be involved. They're talking about a reboot with the original cast.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:03

Okay, that's not a reboot, dude. That's a reboot is a new cast.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:08

No, they're gonna re-they're gonna redo the storyline. Like they're gonna restart from the very beginning the way it should have been.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:16

And the uh 25 years too late for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:20

Yeah, they're they're basically what the theory is is they're gonna do a JJ Abrams Star Trek, right? That's a different timeline. Yes, but with the original cast.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:35

No way.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:38

Well, I'd like it to be.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:43

No. No. I I would much prefer that it was a video game.

unknown 1:50:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:49

I mean they better spend some money on it then.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:52

Some of the cast would totally come back for it because they're not really big actors, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:01

Gene, why am I getting this goth chick on my timeline all of a sudden?

SPEAKER_00 1:51:06

What goth chick? I don't know. Which goth chip? I mean, I'll have her on my timeline, but somebody is saying here, some of you have guests can convention, podcasts, or crossover, you're wrong. Okay. That's the person that posted it saying you're wrong. So I'm I'm still betting it's a video game. Well, we'll find out. We'll see. You know, the show that Nathan Fillion and the guy that played the pilot, I forget his name.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:39

The show that they were on, which was called I talked about it Unrelenting, where we usually talk about movies more. It was called Con Man. Con Man is the name of the show. Was freaking hilarious, right? So Con Man was written by and produced by the guy that plays the pilot on Firefox. Firefly. Firefly, yeah. What why am I blanking out his name?

SPEAKER_01 1:52:10

I don't know. I don't know any actors' names.

Oilfield Grit, TV Cameos, And Wrap

SPEAKER_00 1:52:13

But you know who I'm talking about. Like the weird-looking face and a blonde-looking guy. So he in that show plays a guy who's an actor who had one really successful, really shortly lived spaceship show where he was the pilot. And his co-star, played by Nathan Fillion, plays a guy who was the captain on that show and ended up getting a really big career as an actor. So he's like rich and doing all the actory stuff. While this guy, the pilot guy in this fictional universe, is having to go to conventions to make money. And that's why it's called Con Man, is because he's like his whole life and schedule is built around going to conventions for this spaceship show. And it is hilarious because it's one of those sort of tongue-in-cheek, really close to reality kind of things. And it was very obviously a project that he thought would be hilarious to write for fun. Because it was, you know, just putting a fake names and locations, but basically about his life. And they have almost every actor that was in Firefly make a guest appearance in that show as well. So it was very much kind of a you know Firefly homage kind of thing. So if you want to check it out, just search for Con Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:54

Alright, I will. By the way, oh god, who's uh who's the congressman that uh is always opposing Trump from the report of the United States? Oh the bald Lex Luthor looking fuck? No, no, no, no. Shit. Thomas Massey introduced a universal carry bill.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:18

To override the states.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:20

So all right. I mean, he's obviously trying to get in good graces now, and he knows he's gonna lose. Alan Tuttick, that's the guy's name.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:30

I hey, I'll take it.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:32

Yeah, I mean, I'll take it, but it's not gonna get me to be in a supporter of Massey, though. Given all the risk.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:38

No, I can't vote for him anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:41

Yeah, yeah, but you can donate money.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:44

Yeah, but I no, the only uh I did donate enough to get Brandon Herrera's challenge coin, I'll put it that way.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:51

Yep. Yep. No, that's that's a worthwhile donation.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:55

Yep. Which, by the way, have you seen the the posters go up? Or not posters, the uh what's it called? Billboards in Texas 23. They put up several billboards doing text messages back and forth, and the 23rd district saying no, Tony, we're not good, and like really just calling it out. Like it's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:24

Yeah. Yeah, it's uh I really Tony should just drop out, man. I I can't believe he wants to go through this and the embarrassment of having to deal with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:37

Well, and here's the thing, I mean, if if what happens if congressional oversight removes him? Yeah, yeah. I gotta have a special election anyway, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:55:49

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, it's um I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:07

Texas has some weird politics, always has.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:14

There are there are people here that vote for people that you would think nobody in Texas would ever vote for. Indeed. And I don't just mean in my city of Austin either.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:30

No, like it's all the big cities.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:32

Yeah. It's but even still, it's like it is the cities themselves. Because when I was living in the suburbs north of Dallas, I didn't know anybody that was Democrat. No, I I knew one guy. I knew one guy that was a Democrat. Everybody else was Republican. So it's like, well, how that how are they getting all these fucking votes? It's crazy. Because I used to live in Frisco, which has changed tremendously since I was there. When I was there, it was mostly cow pastures. The last time I drove through there, it's all high-rise buildings.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:07

It's a fucking city.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:08

It's an actual city, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:10

Exactly. That's what people a lot of people who have never been to Texas don't realize about DFW, is you have probably four or five major downtown areas. You do, yeah. You've got Dallas, you've got Fort Worth, but you've also got Plano, you've got Las Calinas, yeah, Arlanculas. And yeah, you know, so you've got And Las Calinas is a weird place. Why?

SPEAKER_00 1:57:39

Just for something that was built as a planned community, it just feels very surreal. Like it's more dead than alive.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:48

I know I had to work there for quite a while.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:51

Oh, you did? I didn't realize it's where you were.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:53

Yeah, so the power company I worked for, we were originally in downtown Dallas at Energy Plaza, and then after bankruptcy and everything, we moved to Las Calinas. Yep, yep, and I lived in Grapevine for several years.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:09

Okay. You know, that's where the guy in office space lives.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:15

I did not realize that.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:17

Yep. They talked about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:19

No, but watching Landman seeing downtown Fort Worth, definitely, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:24

Yeah, it it's kind of neat seeing places that you've been to in TV shows. I totally agree with that. And I I mean, even in Landman, even like Odessa, because I I was working for uh an oil company, uh, Israeli oil company out there. It's like, yep, very familiar.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:40

Well, I I gotta tell you, Landman, I used to work for an oil company as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:45

And in fact, that was my I don't think you're allowed to live in Texas without having at some point work for an oil company.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:51

Pretty much. Anyway, but the way they show the you know, just the oil filled trash and everything, that is so how it is. So how it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:05

That's a good show. I I think they did a good job. I think everybody on the show is enjoying being in the show. That's that's the impression I get from interviews and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:16

And you know what? As crazy as she is, wouldn't you love to have his wife?

SPEAKER_00 1:59:22

No, no, come on now. I I totally understand why both you and Darren think that. But no, I don't need the crazy. I I'm well set now. His daughter, that's a different question, but the wife, no. I've had I've had friends that have had those wives, and I've seen them go through divorces, and these are multi-million dollar divorces where the guy's hair goes from slightly salt and pepper to completely white. Yeah, it's just not the crazy's not worth it, man. I don't care what how good a shape she's in. And she is the the actress is in in very good shape for who she is.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:03

For someone in her 40s, yeah, in her 40s, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:07

Although having recently watched the the show Lioness that I was telling you to watch as well, uh, with Zoe Suland Sodelan, Solindad, I can't pronounce her last name. Who's the chick from Avatar, and she's the chick from oh, what's that show with all the the space dudes? Space Groot. Groot. What what uh movie is Groot in?

SPEAKER_01 2:00:37

Guardians of the Galaxy, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:39

So she's the the green chick in Guardians of the Galaxy. So she is in very good physical shape. I know she's not your type because she's got like beacups, and she's a skinny black woman. And the face and not a particularly black-looking face either. But I I think she's pretty. I've always liked the way she looks. I was shocked when I looked up how old she is. How old is she? 48. Oh. She does not look 48. She looks like she's in her maybe late 30s. I I was like, Jesus, this is she's managed to maintain a she's gotta have like some Asian genes or something in her. Usually Asians, you can't tell how old they are.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:23

To an extent, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:25

This this is the racist part of the show.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:27

And I think on that note, Gene, I think we're out of topics.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:30

Time to wrap it up. All right, yeah, fair enough. But yeah, if you want to watch two shows that I've recently enjoyed watching and give a thumbs up to, one is called Lioness and the other one is called Tehran.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:44

And the Tehran show is Israeli propaganda.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:47

Well, Lioness is American propaganda, they're both about the same thing. So it's do you want uh Mossad or do you want CIA shows? All right, uh later, man.