Sleep Deprivation And Catching Up

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Howdy, Ben. How are you today? I'm tired, Gene.

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Yeah, I I know what you mean. I'm kind of tired myself, just not getting a whole lot of sleep.

SPEAKER_02 0:10

No, I've had four nights in a row of some of the medical issues I've been having. And it's been it's been terrible. And you know, I have to take the tributylene. Man, it raises my blood pressure. So not only am I not sleeping, but I'm just getting wiped out. Yeah, it's not good, man. No, four days in a row is a bit much. Yeah. Anyway, other than that, I'm doing great. Good. How about you?

SPEAKER_01 0:39

I'm doing good. I've been I've been also not getting a whole lot of sleep. I've been working my ass off as a tour guide. Just finished up another session here. Yeah. Yeah. It's just uh showing off spaceships to people. You know, so many people are in the game now, mostly thanks to me that I'm having to you know balance that with all the other games that I play.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

So yeah, you and your Star Citizen. Yep, yeah. I don't know, man. I just I don't know if I'm ever gonna

Star Citizen Friction And Realism

SPEAKER_02 1:10

get into that game, really. Uh I'll tell you why I don't know. Okay. They've made so when I lose my helmet the first time.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:20

For some stupid reason. Like, I shouldn't have I should that that should not be a thing. How it I take it off, it should be stowed away, it should be able to be there. Like they're making it they're making it with too much detail, and we we're gonna be it's like gray zone. Like, I like the game. Great game. I would love I would love to play it, but I'm terrified of losing everything that I've worked to build.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

Like, that's well, but that's part of the gameplay, and I mean like gameplay should be light and fun. That is light and fun. Light and fun means being more realistic than reality. No, for me. So the guy that I was doing a training session with just now that I wrapped up showing the show and stuff is Sarge from Grey Zone, the guy that that got me into playing Grey Zone that I still play with. So I was showing this game off to him. It's uh it's kind of interesting, different, you know, like you definitely tell somebody's like what kind of games they play and what they like based on how they act in the game.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

You mean like meme wanting to shoot stuff?

SPEAKER_01 2:32

You become a 12-year-old boy when you're in a video game. There's there is there's no other age for you while you're in the video game.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Have you not noticed in our group chat? Yes, it's all 12-year-old humor and big old titties.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Like that's there is quite a bit of that going on. I know. I thought it's it is funny. It's a me, it's like it's become a meme onto itself.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Yes, exactly. Like I I never left the just pubescent stage of my life. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Which I think it's fun to revert to that every now and then, but I I I couldn't handle being that nonstop.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

Like it's I well see for hours and hours during the day, I can't be that. So when I when I when I relax, I get to revert.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I get that. I'm not judging, I'm just noticing how people are doing things wrong. So but Sarge is a lot more like me. So I'll give you an example. So we're in one of the spaceships, flying over, and I said, Okay, so if you look around, there'll be a button that says enter remote turret. And so I can see I'm watching his screen, right? So I can see him moving the mouse, he's hovering over the button. He doesn't press the button. I'm thinking, hmm, does he not see it? And then he says, Okay, am I allowed to press it? Yep, go ahead and press it. Now that is why I enjoy playing with Sarge. Because the man will not do stupid shit, like hit the button to eject both of you out of a flying spaceship. Hey, I didn't do it. No, no. I just said you did. I'm not saying you did. I just saw your fingers on it. That's all. When I'm looking back behind my shoulder and I see you fingering the ejection cord, I'm like, don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Well, when we were walking around the show, you know, I kept trying to chuck a bottle at you.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Yes, and you were. I heard those bouncing off the back of my head. If anyone hasn't seen Star Citizen, I've talked about it on this and other podcasts. And it's a game, I have a love-hate relationship. I think it does a lot right. I think it has the highest quality, most amazing graphics of any game that has spaceships in it. Barnon. Yeah. I mean, they need to optimize. Yeah, the frame rate, like it's a game that only really

Graphics, VRAM, And Frame Dips

SPEAKER_01 5:05

looks smooth when you have a 50-90. You know, Ben and I both have very recent cards, but not a 5090 by any means. And you can definitely see the dips in frame rate where it'll drop to like 40 frames or even 30. It doesn't do it for very long, and it's usually in some very busy areas, but it still does it. Where even on the 5090, it'll dip from 120 down to 60, but the 60 is going to be a lot less noticeable.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Yeah, versus going from 120 down to 30.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

This is a game that years ago originally had a deal on SSD RAMs. So if you bought the game, you got a coupon for a discount on buying an SSD RAM from Intel because you needed an SSD in the days when people were still using hard drives. It's just so data heavy. If you look at the amount of video memory the game is using, it's always using like whatever you have, minus 5%. The more you give it, the more it's gonna use. If you have 24 gigs or 32 gigs of video memory, it's gonna use it. So it it's uh dealing with a ton of textures and very complex models. And so it it actually doesn't use your CPU as much as other games. Mine usually sits at about 40-45% most of the time in that game. But the GPU is pegged at 100 almost consistently. But it's still a really fun game. And the reason I say I have a love-hate relationship with that game is because I can't play it right now. I mean, I can sort of kind of play it like I did having a guy walking a guy around the convention floor in a spaceship convention. But here's what happened today, dude. Did you say that again? I bought some new clothes in the game. I bought some jeans and a t-shirt. And I put on the t-shirt and jeans, and I thought, alright, well, that works. Uh now I'm gonna put on my spacesuit again. I took off my t-shirt. I can't take off my jeans. Uh-oh. They are

The Permaglued Jeans Game Bug

SPEAKER_01 7:25

stuck on me. There's no way to take them off. And guess what? You can't put on while you're wearing street clothes. Your spacesuit. Correct. And your helmet. And so that effectively means I'm grounded. I I can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

I mean you could you could live without it. I could do what? You could live without it.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

I could live without space. Yeah. Fuck no. I meant you could lose your space without your spacesuit. No, no, no. You can live without your spacesuit for about five seconds.

unknown 7:59

Why?

SPEAKER_01 7:59

And then you're no longer living. Ship is, of course. I flew from one planet to the other in a pressurized. But the way that I make money is cargo runs. And incidentally, we both started with you saw how much money I had. We had the same amount of money. You had more, in fact. You somehow managed to have a higher starting amount. I am right now at 15 million.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Which means I can buy even a few spaceships at this point. But because mostly I've been doing a lot of cargo runs, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Also doing quite a bit of ship salvage, which is an interesting activity as well. It's basically flying around to derelict ships, stripping off the outer layer of plating off of them, which can be then refurbished and resold. Taking all the ship components out, their their any of their shields, their drives, anything like that, that's that's still okay. You can take. And then any kind of cargo that they might have left behind when they unfortunately had to leave in the hurry, you can also grab. Can't do that anymore. Can't wear a spacesuit, need to be floating in space to do that. So what's the fix? I don't know. I put it in a ticket with the game. That's gonna be probably a week when I hear back. I tried resetting my character. I did a character reset.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

This is why you just don't bother with fashion.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

I know, I know. That's a good lesson to learn. But I I'll tell you this, it's the first time since I've played this game that I've ever had this problem. So I think this is a fairly newly created problem that they've introduced. But yeah, I mean, certainly if I would have just not bothered putting on clothes and I would have stayed in my spacesuit the whole time, then this wouldn't have happened. There's one thing I am going to attempt to do. I don't know if it's gonna work or not. It may not. I'm going to try and redo my character as a female. I'm hoping that means that the all the clothes will be reset.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

Maybe, maybe not. But either way, I put in a ticket. I didn't want to wait to you know, try and get this fixed. And incidentally, I can put on another pair of pants, and then I can take off the second pair. It's just this first pair seems to be permaglued. Somebody went and put some super glue on the pants on the inside. I can no longer take them off.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

So I have an idea who might have done that. Yeah. What? I snuck in there. So I'm looking at another graphics card.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

Okay. Which one?

SPEAKER_02 10:52

The NVIDIA Tesla P40. Okay. It's four gigs of VRAM. What would you do with that card? Put it in my NAS. Okay. To do what with?

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Local LL. To

Cheap GPUs For Local AI Experiments

SPEAKER_01 11:10

do what with? You're gonna do a Darren thing? You're gonna make little little videos? What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 11:18

No, god no, no. Like running the local llama version just to play around with, do some coding, stuff like that, not have to pay a subscription. I've looked at some home automation stuff that I've never wanted to hook to cloud services and things like that that I can do. I'm even thinking about changing out my cameras and getting away from the ones I'm using and running local ones with local AI recognition, things like that.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

And it's an old enough card that it's cheap. $311 with a fan and cooler on it.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

Very leery of used hardware like that. Okay. I mean, it's cheap enough, I guess. Worst case, you just lose $300, and that's all right.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Well, and uh it the seller's got a 99.5 positive feedback, and yada yada yada.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

So do I. So do I, Ben.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Yeah, but I think you're probably fairly honest.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

Until the one time I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

Sure. But anyway, there's it's just an interesting card because it's it's it's an inference card. It's what it's made for, right? Doesn't even have this, you know, a display port or anything like that on it. Yeah. It's purely a compute card. Yeah, it's a compute card. Yep. So I don't know. Thinking about it, thinking about it from my birthday, what all I want to add to the NAS.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

From from a purely like curiosity standpoint, I would definitely encourage you to get it because I want to see how well it works and what it does. But from a friend spending 300 bucks on that instead of something useful standpoint, like joysticks, I would, I would definitely say get the damn joysticks. I think I'll use this more. I don't see how that's possible.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

I do because I have a day job.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

Exactly. You have a day job, you've got a family, you got kids, and you got a video game. When the hell are you gonna spend time on a card?

SPEAKER_02 13:22

The video game goes away.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

No, it doesn't happen. Not after all the money I've spent. Okay. Buying you those games.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Oh, by the way, I picked up another game today. Yeah. Uh people have till the 27th to go get it for free. But right now you can go get Mechanic Simulator or whatever it's called for free and keep it.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

What?

SPEAKER_02 13:51

They're just giving it away.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

You're kidding.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

No. Yeah, Car Mechanic Simulator 2018. Yeah, it's free. I I own that.

Free Games And Ridiculous Playtime

SPEAKER_02 14:00

I bought that. Oh, it's free. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't even want it. I'm probably not ever gonna play it, but it's a fun game.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

I will say that I I when I got it, brand new, I definitely enjoyed playing it. You get to build cars and do stuff. That is amazing. I think the reason for that is because they're trying to sell car mechanics simulator 2026, and instead of giving you a demo of 2026, they figured, hey, we'll give you a whole game for free, which will make you want to, you know. Yeah, people get into it, and then yeah, they're like, oh, I want the latest version of this thing. But yeah, I I guess uh I bought it in uh 2018. I've got 273 hours in there.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

That's the most time I've ever spent in a game with Cyberpunk.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Yeah. Well, you did spend a good chunk of game on one singular playthrough.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Yeah, well, but still, you I mean, you've got more time in car mechanic simulator than I have in Cyberpunk. I've got 187 hours. That's more than I have in I have 173. In Cyberpunk? No, in here. Oh, okay. Barely.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

Yeah. Yeah, Cyberpunk, I'm sure I but I've done multiple playthroughs, so that that makes that obviously a lot different. I've got 1,442 hours.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

I just I don't know how you can spend that much time in a game.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Really? Are you sure you don't know?

SPEAKER_02 15:43

Really? Mr.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

180 hours in one playthrough? Multiply that by six playthroughs, and guess what you end up with?

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Yeah, but subsequent playthroughs wouldn't be that detailed.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Uh yes, they will. Absolutely, because there's a ton of stuff you haven't done yet.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Whatever.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

I don't think I can play a game six times.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Okay, well, once a year, you know. I usually play Cyberpunk at least once a year. It's I I would only play it once a year, but sometimes things like your friends starting to play it also get me to play it as well. So I had more than once a year for that recently because of you. Red Dead, I I play that every year. It just such a good game with an awesome storyline. Just makes me want to go back to the old west and relive those days when you weren't using laser guns, but instead you were using revolvers and uh single shot rifles.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Ooh, which by the way, that reminds me, I've got another thing to call out that Palmetto State had a sale on where's Discord. I posted it in on my company Discord.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

So they've got the Century Arms AP AP59

Memorial Day Gun Deals And Tools

SPEAKER_02 17:12

that they've got on sale right now for shoot, it was I had to you have to put it in your cart to see the price. But it's four fourteen hundred bucks.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Mm-hmm. Pretty good deal. Yep. If anyone wants that little clone, then yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Yeah, I just talked to somebody else recently who just bought the 5.7 from them.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

Yep. They were rocking some pretty good deals for this weekend. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Well, there, you know, if you are just perusing, you don't have a specific gun in mind, you can always find a good deal there.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

Well, that's what they started out as before they started building guns and stuff. They started as a deal site. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Did you look at that deal site I sent you? Yeah, I've been there before. Oh, you have? Okay. I like I like places like that. So it's remind me of the URL. I can't. I'm not looking at it right now. I I don't remember. You don't have signal. Okay. It's it's basically a firearms deal website.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

It is. You're trying to find the link. I don't know where you put it.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

I I sent it to you in uh I thought in Signal.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Yeah, it's so it's ammo seek.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Oh yeah, ammo seek.com. Yeah. So you basically just put in what you're looking for, what type of ammo. It lists the current prices on a dozen or several dozen websites for ammo. So you can get the best deal on the particular kind of ammo you're looking for. Updates in real time all the time. Similar to what I use for firearms themselves, which is usually what is it, guns sale or guns.sale or something like that. Gun. Let me pull it up.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

I don't know, but uh there's definitely some good deals going on for Memorial Day right now. So like they've got a Vortex strike fire to red dot marked down from 250 down to 89.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Okay. That's a big markdown. Also makes you realize what their normal markup is.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

Yep. And if anybody wants to get a dagger, they're the dagger fragments.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Gun dots on the 50 volts. Gun.deals. That's that's the site that I've uh used before quite a bit.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

Yeah, I just kind of have my go-to's for both ammo and guns, like buds, gunshot. Go to buds.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Yeah, and a lot of times buds will actually show up in this one.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Ooh. Oh, so pretty. Kimber 2011 stainless with a comp barrel.

unknown 20:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:07

When are you around magazine? Palmetto one.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

Palmetto has a sale on some Kimber 1911s right now. Yeah. 1911s. Yeah. That are like 600 bucks.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Well, this is a 2011 stainless. Yeah. And Kimber, what you gotta remember, is it depends on which portion of Kimber made it. Right. Well, this is from the good one. Right. Kimber Customs is the one you want, not just their normal production run. Did I ever tell you a buddy of mine liked his Kimber so much he named his daughter after it?

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is just insane. I don't think he's the only one.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

Probably not, but still.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

Yeah, stuff like that always reminds me of when I was a young man and I went out a few times with a gal named Mercedes Mybach. Who some people would think, well, that's a very black-sounding name. No, no, she was a German blonde. And I only later found out why her name was what her name was. She was a great-great granddaughter of the original Mercedes for whom the car line is named. Gotcha. I was a dumbass. Fuck yeah. Get some of them blonde babies pumped out. Well, you've got a problem with that, but sure. I mean problem. What are you talking about? I don't know. I was blonde when I was a kid. I was as a kid.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

I was blonde for a good chunk of my life.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

So CNN. CNN is running a great little sub-line right now. Committee stacked with Trump loyalists of Fru's Arch design. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

What else is he gonna put on the Trump haters put into approve Trump design by Trump? Yeah. Recover Tactical has a conversion kit for Glock for $179 to turn it into a PDW.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Yeah, there's a there's a bunch of those kits. I really like mine, you know, that goes for the Glock and Glock clones, but my favorite of my PDWs really is my P320. Um it just it's great in that configuration. And it's not something I'm gonna carry concealed.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

So what do you think makes that gun that I sent you? No, you're gonna be wrong. And the other thing is guess the price. What caliber is it? It's 308. It's 308. Yeah, 769.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Remington?

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Lone Round magazine. No, it's um Marlin, maybe? What uh

A $500 Mossberg Bolt Gun Debate

SPEAKER_02 23:15

lines from one of the main manufacturers. But who is it?

SPEAKER_01 23:20

What do you think the price is first?

SPEAKER_02 23:22

Two grand.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Okay. So it is Mossburgh. Mossburg. That's close. For $500. What? Yeah, exactly. Would you like a link? Sure. So what we're looking at. Shoot that thing, but to describe it, it looks like a very nice long barrel, not a tactical, but a long barrel version of a 308. It it does sub-MOA, apparently, is what they're claiming. Well, I mean, that's not hard to do in a bolt gun.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Not anymore, at least.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

But, you know, replaceable magazine, yeah, it's the MV MVP precision. Yeah, 20-inch barrel. It's a Mossberg MVP precision 762 NATO. So, and it's the threaded barrel. So you can have your funnel.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

It's gonna be a heavy gun.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

It is heavy. It's almost 10 pounds, nine and a half pounds.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Without ammo.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Without ammo, without the suppressor on the front.

unknown 24:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

It is it looks like the gun that I use.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

I'm saying 500, but I'm seeing it all the way up to the 1200.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

But you can get it for just over 500, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

Yeah, but maybe I don't know these two that have it for five sport, you know.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Sportsman's fulfillment.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

I was looking at the other two, but that one. And then you know, the uh guns.com has it for 833.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, it's 499.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Normally 900 bucks. Right now, 500. The twist rate seems awful odd for 308. What's the twist? One in ten.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Yeah, well, maybe it's because of the 20-inch barrel. Maybe. Mm-hmm. That's not a bad gun. I would probably just order one right now without thinking too much if I desperately didn't need something other than the gun right now.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

You mean like a job?

SPEAKER_01 25:28

Yeah. Exactly. You read my mind. But that like for 500 bucks, that seems kind of a no-brainer to just buy and figure out later whether you want to keep it or sell it. Because if you buy it for 500 right now, I doubt that you'd sell it for any less than that if you wanted to sell it.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

No, I mean the stock on it doesn't look like my favorite, but it's got adjustable length of pull, adjustable cheek comb. Yeah. You know, that it's using an AR pistol grip, so you can swap that out if you don't like the one that's on it. You know. So what I wonder what magazines they're using because it looks slightly curved. It doesn't look like a normal mag.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Yeah. I don't know. I don't see a description of the magazine listed. I mean, I don't know if Mossburg, I would they might make their own mags. I don't think they do, but who knows? But has a Picatini rail mount.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

I mean, it's got everything you need. There has to be something wrong with these guns because I guarantee you Mossburg did not set out to make a $500 gun there.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

No. No. But it's it's hard to argue with a gun that looks that nice for $500.

unknown 26:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

I am tempted, man. It does take the AR10. It does take the AR10 Max. Just regular A10, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and the stock is good. Looking at the stock right now in detail.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

You know, if somebody wants non-gun fans or like I know, but we talk about different topics all the time.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

So I'm not gonna put a link in there because it may be expired by the time people listen to this, but here's what I will tell you. If you want to find some pound adjustable trigger. Yeah. Yeah, that's it's good. Go to gun.deals. We're not sponsored or anything, just a site I use. And then type in Mossburg MVP Precision and see what pops up. And if you're lucky, it'll be at the same price that it is right now. It looks like there's about three stores that have it for cheap, and then everybody else has it for quite a bit higher price.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Yeah, very smooth action.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Okay. I wouldn't surprise me from Mossburgh. Yeah. It yeah, it's a Magpull, they use Magpull parts apparently for everything. And it's got an MLOC handguard, which is again what I was saying is it's a nice handguard.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Yeah, yeah. And you know, I have I have my thousand yard 308. I've got a Bogara that I love, and it's not tactical out like this, but it's you know, plenty nice.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Different purpose. I've got I've got my Tika, same exact thing. I it's a deer gun. It's in fact mine's uh mine's pretty heavy. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't get the titanium barrel?

unknown 28:29

Fuck no.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

First of all, I'm going for accuracy.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Bigara. But no, I I I wanted something to replace my 300 rum for long range, yeah, which I also use to hunt because I don't mind a heavy gun.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

Yeah. We know, Ben, you've said about a million times. You can deal with the I okay, and and here's the thing. I don't disagree with you in this. Like I'm I'm making fun of you, but not really. Because I think most people in our from what I've heard in both our FBI, too pussy to shoot 10 millimeter, and in our military, we didn't want to shoot a 308, so they they want to shoot the small caliber low recoil guns.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Yeah, the the the the infantry's having a fit about the the 608. Exactly. By the way, the what I have is the HMR, so the Vegara HMR Pro. Okay. It's at 9.3 pounds.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Okay, so it's about the same weight as this thing. Just a smidge later.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

Yeah, here I'll drop a link. But you know what the MSRP on my gun is? No. You can get it cheaper than this, but 1800 bucks. 1800? Oh, nice. That's very good.

unknown 29:44

Yeah. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

And it's got a threaded barrel and all that. Yeah. Once they finally get rid of the tax stamp, I'll get a suppressor.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Yeah. Yeah. I might get one before then, but I'm in no hurry. You know, honestly, I'm just not been going through the range a whole lot lately.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

So speaking of have you been paying attention to politics at all?

SPEAKER_01 30:16

223 suppressor for 200 bucks. Sorry, what? Have you been paying attention to politics? A little bit. Not much. I'm still very much in my decompression, which I talked about two episodes ago, where I just felt like I'm just sick and tired of X.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Did you see that Trump swept

Primaries, Endorsements, And Voting

SPEAKER_02 30:35

like 30 something to zero on his endorsements?

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Absolutely. And I including Thomas Massey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I I posted a video which I I don't know if you watch her or not. Yeah. Well, I I've put a link every time to you guys on it. But it's the God, what is her name? Dana. Dana something. But she's this Dana Perino. Yeah, yeah. So she was a like 15-20 years ago in all the NRA ads, all the pro gun ads, very involved in gun-related culture stuff. And she kind of went on to become a talk show host. I'm like on TV, on radio, as nationally syndicated. I watch her on YouTube because I don't like mass media, old school media, but she still does the other stuff. But man, she really just laid it into all these idiots using her words, although I agree with her completely, who thought that the likes on X translated into votes. Like, no.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Because X first of all, X is a worldwide platform.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Exactly. And that's what her poll is like, you know, the Pakistanis that are clicking like on Thomas Massey don't get to vote. It ain't happening. That all the people on the bot farms that are clicking him for likes and Tucker and Candace, none of them vote. I'm not even sure the people that actually are in the US that are watching a whole lot of Candace vote at all, either. There's that as well. But a lot of people really were very confident about guys like Massey winning because they were seeing on all the social media platforms, predominantly X, that he's got this insane amount of support. But you have to understand that support on a social media platform does not translate into votes at home. And we saw perfect examples that. I'll get back to it. But for now I really haven't been.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

But uh, I thought it was interesting that Trump swept, and he also, and this is a good reminder, tomorrow's the last day of early voting, and the U uh the Texas runoff primary is Tuesday, and this is really important because we need to get Kim Paxton in there. Yeah. Yep. And Trump endorsed Paxton, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Good. Good. Yeah. Yeah, he's a good guy. From what I've seen. Anyway. Uh, what else did I miss politically speaking that you've been catching?

SPEAKER_02 34:00

Well, so I don't normally watch the Tate Brown stuff because I find him annoying. But Tim's been out and I've listened to one of them today. There's a really interesting Supreme Court case that was not even on my radar at all that just got settled. And it's

Truck Brokers Liability And Trucking

SPEAKER_02 34:20

about truck brokers being able to be held liable if they should have known that the trucking company they were hiring was not meeting safety standards. How do you prove that they knew? Well, but I I I think the the effect here is I I think one track record, track record of the owner, stuff like that. But I think what's interesting is that I think it's gonna have a chilling effect on a lot of these Indian slash you know illegal alien truck drivers that are out there. And he had a trucker guy on there that is an expert in the shipping industry, and it's really worth a listen because he goes through all how the they kill, they're killing the the American trucking industry. Absolutely. What's happening, how they're going about it, how they're going through, and you know, forming LLC when they get hit with a lawsuit or whatever, they go bankrupt, they do another one, you know, they're pretty judgment proof, and they just keep doing this over and over and over and over again.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

Well, and they're they're wrecking the industry in a lot of ways, none the least of which is by dropping the the cost per mile, they're making it unaffordable to actually be a trucker.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

Yep. And the the other thing that I thought was interesting is the trucking industry is something Ronald Reagan deregulated in the 80s to a point where he may have gone too far, you know, and caused this.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

I don't know about that. I mean, this is 40 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

Uh but it's been happening since with the illegals. Yeah, but anybody can stab a trucking company now.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Yes, but the problem is we've got a shit ton of illegals here now.

unknown 36:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

Oh true. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

But we also know the shit ton of illegals about the biggest.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

I don't want to say guns cause violence. I want to say people cause violence. It's the illegals that are the problem, not an industry that has fewer regulations.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

The deregulation of the industry led to a spot where this could happen.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Sure, sure. But that's always the price of freedom. The the less regulated anything is, the more potential there is for someone to abuse it. But you have to point the finger at the abusing party, not at the industry.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

So the other thing I'll say is, dude, I think the Republicans might win the midterms.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

I think even I will be surprised if that happens. I had kind of written off the midterms as a guaranteed loss given all the things that are happening. The fact that historically the party who is in power loses the midterms. If Trump can manage to pull off, not just redistricting stuff is huge. It is huge. I I know there's gonna be lawsuits challenging every single one right up to the last minute. There might be lawsuits for years after the fact as well, challenging the validity of elections. It's funny, when when the Democrats are the ones that have fewer votes, they're gonna sue. When the Republicans got scammed out of winning an election and sued, the court said, no, you don't have standing for this. No. I don't think the Democrats are gonna just say okay at that. So yeah, I mean I'd love to see the Republicans maintain control, and and especially now with a bunch of the wishy-washy Republicans being washed out thanks to the primaries. So we're gonna have better quality Republicans. Hopefully.

SPEAKER_02 38:08

So do you have you been tracking the SpaceX stuff? I know we've got a new launch coming up. Well, we've got that, but it's also about the IPO.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

Oh, I I'm aware of it vaguely. I have not been tracking it at all.

SPEAKER_02 38:23

All right, well, let's talk about the IPO and then we'll talk about V3 of Starship. So the I right

SpaceX IPO Talk And Market Logic

SPEAKER_02 38:30

now, the pre-IPO trading, you know, the because you can trade stock even if it's not publicly offered, right? Like I have stock I can sell that isn't publicly offered yet. Right. I'm not going to. Yeah. Right now it's closing in on $900 a share. Pre-IPO. Pre-IPO. Damn. So that means they think it's going to be above that. Yeah. So we're looking at over a trillion dollar valuation. Well, Elon owns like half of that. He owns 42%. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

That's actually a little less than I thought, but okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

That's but he controls 79 to 85% of his share class. Right, right, right. So yeah, the man's about to become the first trillionaire.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

That's wild, man. That that's insane.

SPEAKER_02 39:30

What would drive that valuation in anybody's mind?

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Well, I I think it's it's the same thing as SpaceX. I mean, if you invested a hundred bucks in SpaceX, sorry, what am I thinking? If you invested a hundred bucks in Tesla before they went public, I think you'd have like over 10 grand right now. Okay. So smart money would say you buy on the dip right after the IPO. Because that usually what'll happen is it'll it'll every well, vast majority of IPOs, they start off, they go up, and then there's a little bit of a second thought regret moment that happens with people when they decide, ooh, maybe I should have jumped into that IPO, and that's when you actually buy. And then you you buy to hold at that point. Right.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

But I what I'm saying is what is the business model that is going to support that market cap?

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Well, right now they're already making money hand over fist with their current rocket line. But once Starship becomes a commercial rocket launch provider, right now it's still in testing, right? Still in development. Once it goes commercial, and not just for you know NASA, not just US government, but commercial. It is so much bigger capacity than anything else out there that they'll be able to effectively bankrupt three-quarters of all the other rocket companies on day one. Because they're gonna offer rates that are 90% cheaper than what the other going rate is per kilogram. Per kilogram in orbit. I mean, that's their real both goal, I think, and and the fear of everybody else is that SpaceX isn't just going to be able to become the market leader and dominate that market by building a whole bunch of rockets, they'll do that as well. But they will be able to make it impossible for all other space agencies to compete with them. Because Elon kind of did a version of that with his first rocket. Kind of they reduced the cost so much that everybody else had to scramble and find ways to reduce the cost of kilograms to orbit for their programs. You know, they're one of the few ways that that there was still competition for SpaceX was because of Russian rockets. Both Russia launching rockets and Russian rockets being sold to other countries to launch. Being cheap, right? Yeah, because France was launching. Yeah. Yeah, there's their basically their only cost was construction. Because all the RD costs, everything else was all from Soviet Union. So the only thing that they had to do is just keep using the same dyes and same factories to build the parts from Soviet days, and then they could afford to sell all that stuff super cheap. Plus, it's Russia, so it's not really, you know, first world pricing, even if it was on its best day. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

So but there's paid attention to the changes that they made to V3 of Starship.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

I saw a video on it, but I didn't I was like playing a video game while watching the video, so I didn't get too deep in it.

SPEAKER_02 43:20

They've simplified a shit ton. Yeah. One reducing number of parts in the engine. Huge.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

And that's that's his MO. Like that's the big quote that everybody loves to quote from Musk

Starship V3 Simplification And Payload

SPEAKER_01 43:30

is the best upgrade is to delete something.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

Well, and I forget how many tons of fire suppression system that they cut out, but they cut all the fire suppression system out.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 43:42

Like the and that just makes tons of extra payload, right? Yep. So yeah. It's it they they the launch is gonna be here next week. Um it's gonna be really interesting. I I wouldn't I wouldn't hold my breath that if they launch. Launch next week and it's successful, the IPOs within a few days after that. Yeah, right. Like that would be the timing.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Let's go. Let's go, boys. Yeah. Make it make it so that it his rockets and all the news videos and then the IPOs the next day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I really like what they're doing. It's obviously like Elon's just the inspiration for what they're doing. You know, he's not the guy making those cuts.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Well, he's just leadership. He's a very leadership is important.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Absolutely. He is a very good leader. He's a very good leader in the same way that I think that well, there have been a number of leaders over the course of you know corporate America. People that have done a gr a great job of making other people do good work. And that's what Elon's really good at. And he comes up with good I good ideas. I mean, uh, you can't just say he's just a bureaucrat, he's a lot more than just a bureaucrat. But, you know, dude, the remember, Elon's the guy that hired somebody to play video games for him. Elon is the boss, he is the manager, he's the guy that that will have a really high video game score because he hired the right person to play it for him. Which is hilarious. Which is hilarious, yes. But you know, if you've got if you're as busy as him running multiple companies and you want to play for like one hour on Sunday, you don't want to play for that one hour being the lowly character at the bottom rung, just starting to make the first thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

I wouldn't care. I I would not hire someone to play a video game for me.

SPEAKER_01 45:55

I don't know, man. A lot of people that have kids that are teenagers are doing exactly that for free. It's still hiring people, you're just not paying them with money. I guess. Character development, that's called, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

But why would they do it for free?

SPEAKER_01 46:14

Well, they're doing it for not free. I mean, it's just, you know, getting stuff from your parents. It's it in lieu. Let me ask you this. Would you rather go mold the lawn or play your dad's video game for him? No dad is saying play my video game for me, son, and not mold the lawn. You were online. Well, maybe you weren't online. My yeah, no, you were. Halsey. There you go. He does that. Why? Well, it's a little different. It's not quite that. But I mean, he effectively has a built-in crew of people to play with. He I kind of joke with him. The reason you had all these kids is because you wanted the big crew to fly spaceships with. Okay. Yeah. Alright. I'm just saying, you know, it's I totally understand Elon doing that. I enjoy getting that grind from start to finish myself. The earlier conversation about why would you ever replay a video game? Well, that's why. To see if I could do it better this time than I did last time. It's like, why would you ever rerun a you know a three-mile race? Well, to see if you could do it in a shorter time.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

I wouldn't run a three-mile race to begin with. What? I wouldn't run a three-mile race to begin with.

SPEAKER_01 47:35

Okay, a marathon, whatever. Who cares? Point is why would you redo something?

SPEAKER_02 47:41

I max out at 800.

SPEAKER_01 47:42

Were you not a track and field guy? You were telling me you were a track and field guy.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Yeah. The the 400 and 800.

SPEAKER_01 47:49

Oh, you were in the meter later. Okay, okay. So not kilometers, just meters. Yeah, I I was I was a sprinter.

SPEAKER_02 47:56

I was a quick burst. In fact, when I was running. That explains a lot about your video games. When I was running the 400

Track Days And Knee Blowouts

SPEAKER_02 48:05

in high school, and you got to remember, I graduated high school at 16. So my senior year, when I set my record, I was only 16. And then I blew out my knee. And anyway. But like there's this picture of me that my mom took where I'm at the 300 meter mark, and my closest competition is at about the 250 mark.

SPEAKER_01 48:27

Like, I'm literally played kids in school, did you?

SPEAKER_02 48:30

I dude, I was fast. But anyway, but the problem is Molly fast. That last 25 meters, I had nothing left ever. Okay. And after every race, I would puke. Oh. That's like I was running it that hard at the very beginning. No, it was what it was, but no, I had I had a sub 50 second 400 at 16. I don't know if that's good. Is that good? That's very good.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

Like I was gonna go run for AM before I blew out my okay. Interesting. And then I tore my ACL and meniscus, and that was.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Yeah, that sucks. Been there than that. Not fun. Not fun at all. I told you how I did that. I was playing in a construction site and jumped off of a too tall a floor.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

No, you hadn't told me that.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was a house getting built kind of diagonally from my parents' house, and you know, kids. This is back in the 80s, unsupervised, do whatever the fuck you want. And uh sort of playing up in the construction site, and they they end like the exit out to the balcony was there, the ceiling wasn't there, the the ladders weren't there, and we were just playing, and I ended up jumping. Point is jumped from a height too high, landed poorly. It was either gonna be my ankle or my knee, and it turned out my knee's the one that went.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Yeah, so for me, I was playing paintball and I got pinned down, and I was in this bunker, and so the bunker has this front side that is you know just railroad ties. We we set this up on my friend's land, and then there's a little area you can come in on either side, and then there's a little bluff behind me, right? So I'm I'm pinned down and I decide I'm gonna Rambo this shit off this bluff. Run and I jump. It's only about a 10-foot jump, but I landed with my right knee fully extended and locked.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

Oh, yeah, that'll do it. I can feel the pain right now.

SPEAKER_02 50:43

I was done.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

I have it's one thing I'm sure you have this too is if you've done something like that, where you've broken a leg or you've screwed up a joint, whenever somebody talks about a similar experience, you literally your muscles tightened. You literally feel it in that place as they're talking about it. Yep. Like, oh yep. Not fun. Not fun at all. Did you watch the uh Gina Carrano and the other chick fight? No. Do you do you know who that is? No, female MMA fighters. I do. Gina Carano was actually in Star Wars in a bunch of movies.

SPEAKER_02 51:27

I don't follow MMA.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Dude, Star Wars sucks. The original Star Wars sucks. The new Star Wars sucks even harder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know. Like as a kid when they said we did the Kessel run in 3.8 parsecs, that's a measurement of distance, not speed. You know, and then their retconning of how that makes sense is just so retarded.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

No, it's it's retarded. Absolutely. It's clearly written by somebody who doesn't understand space because all the spaceships fly around like airplanes. That's always been my complaint with it as well. They're basically flying in a flat plane instead of an actual 3D, six degrees of freedom kind of environment. But yeah, so I didn't watch her in Star Wars either, but I know she was in it. A lot of people know her from that. But she and this other gal were like 20 years ago, they were a couple of the first generation female MMA fighters. Very uh groundbreaking. Some people were making fun of it, some people saying women don't belong in the MMA. But I remember watching those fights, and it was kind of neat watching chicks you know beat the crap out of each other, and not like you know, black chicks at a chicken place. And that's not racist at all. That's just videos that you watch on YouTube of black chicks fighting and just outside of a chicken place. So it was fun to watch, and they decided to do this like reunion fight. And I was like, oh no. Why because they were doing this 20 years ago. You know how old that makes them? 40s, 50s, 40s, yeah, 40s. 40-year-old women should not be doing this. 40-year-old men arguably shouldn't be doing this, but certainly not for a year.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

It would be entertaining to watch, you know, mediocre stuff that kicked out. But they were but they were like if Gene can kick your ass, you have no business doing this.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

I don't know, I uh yeah, I have not kicked anyone's ass for so long. I don't know that I would be betting on myself at this point. Did you ever really kick anyone's ass? Oh, absolutely, man.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

I got into trouble a lot. You know, I never started shit, but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

I I've always believed in total war. So if you fuck with me prepared to become blind, I don't care that all you did was punch me. That's not where it ends. It's gonna end in a place that you don't want to be.

SPEAKER_02 54:07

It's gonna be a dark place for the rest of your life. I I'll I'll tell you, I had this friend when I was a kid, I was middle school, and he had an earring, and I just told him, I just told him, Man, you better hope we never get in a fight because that's coming out. Uh-huh. Yep. I I I never had long hair as a kid. In fact, I had a buzz cut for a long time. Same. Same. I grew up with a total flat top. I uh white side walls. Yeah, I I just I I started martial arts at five and went all the way through my mid-20s doing a whole bunch and enjoy it. Oh yeah, you were doing it all through college?

SPEAKER_01 54:54

That's actually kind of cool because most people drop shit like that.

SPEAKER_02 54:58

Yeah, no, actually, I I switched in college, I switched from Taekwondo to judo and jujitsu. I also did freestyle wrestling in high school, you know. So that's where the gate comes from.

SPEAKER_00 55:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

I I started out in Taekwondo and I got black belt in Taekwondo. Which is not a practical street fighting style at all. It's too stand up and kickish. And anyone who's ever been in a street fight, you're you're going to the ground. Like you're not standing up having a boxing mask.

SPEAKER_01 55:32

You guys don't know how to fight, yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That is very true. Yeah, and and this is where judo, I think, or jujitsu become more useful.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

Now, that first that first, if you can get one good kick in, though, sometimes I can end the fight right there.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

So it could, but you're playing against the odds at that point. So I did Muay Thai, that was my thing, but I never did it thinking that this is the street fighting thing, because I always was into guns.

SPEAKER_00 56:05

So for me, it was more of a it was more of my my thing today.

SPEAKER_02 56:10

Someone wants to fight me, I'm not going to the ground, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

Like, it's always one of my favorite scenes out of Indiana Jones is when uh sword, yeah. Yeah, he's doing all this fancy maneuver, maneuver, and then Harrison Ford like looks at him, pulls out his gun without even aiming, just shoots him in the stomach.

SPEAKER_02 56:32

Well, and you know, originally the script was supposed to be the video that talked about that. Yeah, yeah. Takes the sword away from him and all this, and Harrison Ford's like, I've got a gun. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 56:47

Oh man, yeah. And and Han Solo shot first. Yeah. Absolutely. Don't care. Yeah, well, that's I mean I would too. You you can't find those prints anymore. They've erased all of them, but in the original that I saw in the movie theater, he absolutely shoots first. George Lucas changed his story after the fact and then used CGI magic. What else you got, Gene? Well, let's see, what's going on with the latest on the AI front?

SPEAKER_02 57:20

We're all gonna die.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

We're all gonna die. I I observed, let's say, a full day conference on AI in business today. Yesterday. Yesterday, I guess I did that. So

AI Privacy Fears And Data Centers

SPEAKER_01 57:36

I kind of got exposed to a whole bunch of stuff going on. I'm very concerned about the amount of privacy data that people are giving access to AI. Yes. This is not going to end well. Literally, the kind of data that we were up in arms against losing control over is voluntarily being given to AI. That is, what is AI in a in a very high view perspective? It's a database with a bunch of rules. So volunteering your data to a company that will own what and decide what it does with that data is just retarded.

SPEAKER_02 58:19

Well, so one of the things that I'm a little bullish on, where we might be able to kind of pull this out and save it, is you know, a some of these last generation AI GPUs like I was talking about earlier, are flooding the market and being really cheap while still being you're not gonna train a model on these cards. You're not gonna train a model at home worth of crap, right?

SPEAKER_01 58:48

But you could if you have a lot of time.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

My dad's been doing training for like months now. Sure, sure. But but what you can do is you can effectively run a model at home. And like with the CPU, the RAM, and the GPU I'm looking at putting in my NAS, you know, when it's sitting there idle and not doing data transfer, not doing this, not doing that, I've got quite a bit of resources to be able to do that. I've even got MVME storage that I can use and everything else. So I I can do a reasonable model here at home on relatively cheap hardware.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

You want to hear a quote from the guy that ran the event, the AI event? Sure. Which I thought was hilarious when he said it. Somebody asked a question relating to you know, being polite to the AI or something like that. His response is you don't have to be polite. It's not a person, don't anthropomorphize it. It's a tool, it's like being polite to your electric drill. And if you're polite and use language that you use would use with a human with an AI, then you're just wasting electricity and water. Agreed. And I was like, whoa, bro, that that is intense. I've never heard anybody say that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

I will tell you, I am involved. So, full disclosure, I'm involved with one of the largest AI data center projects in the world right now. Yeah. Let's say that they are building 11 to 17 gigawatts of their own generation, including four AP 1000 reactors.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:29

All all they gotta do is just connect that to a goddamn, I'm ruining the joke. All they gotta do is connect that to a DeLorean. A DeLorean was what I was trying to get to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:45

8.6 gigawatts. That's a lot of power, Marty. It's funny because no one knew how to say Giga.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:54

I know. Funny. Anyway. Oh well, okay. Although to be pedantic, I will say that in Spanish languages, it's Giga.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:05

Okay, cool. This was an English language movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

I know, I know. I'm just being pedantic, that's all.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

Anyway, no, but 17 gigawatts of power, dude, if they end up building that much, is just insane. And it's all behind the meter. So this is for the data center. Well, if you have your own power supply, you don't have a meter. Well, that that's the point. I mean, you still have a connection to the grid for cold start, lots of things, but yes. That the term is for behind the meter, and that's part of the way Trump has deregulated this and why we've seen such a boon in these data center projects. Right, you saw the turn on Three Mile Island. Well, before these data center projects were having to hunt areas with low power costs and so on, and they were raising everybody's electricity cost. Now, what they're seeing is hey, we can build these data centers, we can build these power plants, we can power the data centers with the power plants, and when the data center is no longer viable and we shut it down for refurbishment and rebuilding, then we can sell power to the grid. Yep. And we're we're still making money. And I it has opened up a ton of investment. Right now, my company has that I am involved with. We have three data center projects that are doing this right now. And when you think about it, for me in the OT space, it it's really data centers like this are a dream come true. You've got a water treatment plant for the cooling, you've got power plants for generating electricity, you've got the building management systems, you've got the cooling management systems. Like, there is a lot of OT stuff in here. Totally. Totally. I mean, some of them are running traditional DCS control systems.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:51

And and the the the other guy that I was playing with right before the recording this, his company does that portion of it. They they do cooling for power plants.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

Well, sitting in my way, man. We've got so you know, we're we're project management officers.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:11

I think I told you like they're doing a project right now where their portion of just their portion of that project is a billion dollars. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. So it's all it that's all it takes. I'm telling you, you want uh you want to get some good customer leads, you just gotta play more video games.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:30

Yeah. Well, like I was telling you off the air, and I don't want to go into detail, but hopefully I'll have some good news coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:38

Yeah, yeah. Well, hopefully you get some good sleep. Yeah, hopefully. We uh I know what it's like to lack sleep, man. I I've had insomnia for a long period of time.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:49

That's nice. You know the other clients I'm seeing really pop up hard and heavy all of a sudden? Who's that? Universities with their uh cogin plants. Really interesting. Yep. So universities have all these little small cogen plants that are sit low, they don't have a whole lot. But what they're coming to realize is it is such a critical portion of the infrastructure for the university to function, especially where it is a cogin plant where they're using that steam to also heat the facilities, that they they can't, you know, power, okay. If that power plant's offline, they still have electricity from the grid, but they don't have heat in the winter. And so, you know, especially northern universities are taking this much more seriously now.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:39

Well, good. It makes sense. They should.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:42

Yeah, I haven't ever really bid into higher ed before, so it's kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:47

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:50

Yeah, that's certainly not my area and of anything I've done, but you know, the power in general, it seemed for most of my life, even I'd say, just sort of there, ubiquitous and cheap. We didn't have electric cars, we didn't have AI shit, we just had televisions. You know, and and the commercial machinery. That was about it. There's not that much shit that ran out of electricity. And so the costs were low, the consumption was low. And right now, I think I've certainly seen my electric bill going up in Austin here. I don't think I'm using any more than I've ever pulled.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:39

Yeah, yeah, I believe it. I believe it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:42

You know, mine's kind of all clumped together with water and garbage and everything else, but it's probably gone up and most of that increase it's probably gone up about 50 60%. But most of that increase was, I think, tied to electricity. Like I think just the electric portion of the bill right now is more than what I was paying for all three of those services combined in the past.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:10

So or anything about AI data centers or anything?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:16

No, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:18

So what do you think of Raul Castro being indicted?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:25

I mean, I think Marco's gonna become the the first governor of Cuba

Gas Prices And Policy Consequences

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

we've had in over a hundred years, so that's cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:34

Did you see his speech that he gave in Cuban? Or in Cuban? In Spanish? No, I haven't.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:42

I don't reckon this is Spanish, so that wouldn't do me any good. Por qué no? Porque tu no uhles español, tu viva te has tocitas español. No, it's not. I understand enough of the service people industry to not need to know it. It's it's really more about understanding what you're being, you know, what you hear, not so much the speaking of. When you go to a different country where they speak a different language, then it's more important to speak it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:14

But when you're in your own country, I think it's enough to just when we went to Mexico and the uh valet driver dinged the car. Uh-huh. It was so satisfying to be able to cuss him out in Spanish and rip him a new one and not get chewed out by anybody like that's their little ears around or anything else, because like no one you don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:34

So uh but also it's totally expected that he would ding the car. Yeah, still pissed me off.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:42

And he said, No, I didn't do it. Bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Uh-huh.

unknown 1:07:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:48

Now they always do it. This is it's always fun when they do that in a car like a Tesla that has cameras that are turned on all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:57

Oh, you didn't? Really? Do you want to watch the video of you not doing it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:04

Yeah. So parody Netanyahu accounts and stuff are putting out videos of Tehran getting nuked. Yeah, I don't see that happening. I don't either. I I think I think we want the street closed. We're happy with the arrangement right now. Yeah, exactly. We're in no rush. China, okay, Europe, they're in a rush. But China's China's buying our oil, so who cares? They're starting to buy our oil.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:37

And I think this is this is the beauty of Trump's negotiation is that the only states that this is really hurting is the left coast.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:46

Washington, Oregon, and California are screwed. And the reason why, and I saw a great did you see the Chevron sign? It's now in California Chevrons? Nope. It literally says the prices are this high because California politicians didn't do jobs and local oil production. Like Chevron is calling out at their gas stations, the prices are this high in California because of California politicians.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:12

Yeah.

unknown 1:09:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:14

Everybody knows it. I think even the liberals know it. Absolutely. There's no reason. I was on the West Coast, you know, a month and a half ago. So $6 gas in Washington State. Yeah. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:30

And here's the thing California, Oregon, and Washington all used to have oil production. Yep. They all have oil refining capacity to some extent, although a lot of that's going away. They are literally importing oil from the Middle East because they don't want to drill their own oil. There is no pipeline across the Rockies. And I don't think we should send it on rail, and I don't think we should send it on trucks. Let them fucking starve. I agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:58

I think that's just a good policy for a lot of things, not just for this. Is just, you know what? Let people deal with the mess they themselves created. This is my my policy on New York, New York City. Everyone's like, oh my God, look at all this horrible stuff. Mandami says, it was all predicted. We all knew it was going to happen. New Yorkers in voted for him in spite of knowing this is what's going to happen. I have zero shits to give. And I have relatives in New York, but I have zero shits to give for anyone that lives in New York, voted for Mandami, and now has to deal with potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars of additional taxes.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:42

You've heard that song. You've heard that barber shop court. They've got zero fucks to give.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:54

I like when they do stuff like that. I've always liked the sort of So here's the thing about Mandami.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:00

Dude, so they are praising Mandami like crazy for this 12, he saw the $12 billion deficit. No, he didn't. He cut shit and then he got a big bailout from the state. Yeah, the state basically shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:17

So if it wasn't enough that people are leaving New York City, now they're going to be leaving New York State because the state doesn't have any balls and is basically rerouting money that it collected from other taxpayers to the worst city in the state. They're not happy about that. But it's what do you want? I this is people have different priorities. I've asked for like I have friends that are basically conservative. Like, if you just talk to them, you would think that they're conservatives, right? They're they're not like staunch out there talking about fuck yeah, you know, go Trump conservatives. They're just people that vote conservative and don't really do much in other politics. I've talked to these guys when they live in California, live in Washington State, live in Oregon State. Like, why do you stay here? How can you live someplace where the political class and the people that voted for them hate your guts? They literally hate you. They would sooner you die than to help you if you're in trouble. Why would you live there? And the reply is usually the same.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

Chevron the signs, I just found it. Yeah. Sacramento policies did this. Now you pay more. Subline. California politicians are choosing foreign oil and fuels over local jobs and lower costs. And that is a sign outside of Chevron. Good for them. Gas stations. It's great. Yeah. I dude, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:55

Chevron is a foreign oil company, so that makes total sense. Chevron is not a foreign oil company. Here they are. A Venezuelan company. No, they're not. You're thinking of Valero. I thought Chevron was the one that was Venezuelan. Chevron and ExxonMobil are U.S. Well, ExxonMobil. Exxon was, mobile was, but I thought that Chevron was foreign. Nope. Really? Were they ever foreign? Am I just thinking of like older versions of them? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:23

As far as I know, Chevron is U.S. And then Valero is foreign.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:33

Well, someone with a bitch. A group of explorers struck oil in California in 1876. Three years later, our company switched the industry. That's crazy. I totally thought they were a foreign company.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:45

No, Valero, Valero was a foreign company, but now it's pretty much U.S.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:48

ownership. I am fully willing to admit mistakes when I make them. I just make them very infrequently.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:58

Anyway. No, it's funny though that Chevron used to be headquartered in California.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:06

Oh, they're not anymore. Don't believe so.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:09

I think they moved to Texas a while back. Yeah. Well, dude, half of Austin moved from California, so go figure.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:17

Yeah, they're in Houston. Chevron's corporate headquarters in Downsville.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:20

Well, that would make more sense if you were in the oil industry, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Now, let me ask you a totally unrelated question here. Because you know a little bit more about this topic than I do. Do these oil companies have diversification? Do they invest in or developed products not directly tied to oil pricing? Yes. Like they do. Okay. So they can hedge their income even if the price of oil fluctuates.

Sweet Vs Sour Crude Explained

SPEAKER_02 1:14:50

The the the super majors have always had some of the richest RD departments in the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:01

And what are like what kind of stuff would they invest in or develop?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:06

Well, if you believe some of the batteries and shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:11

I was gonna say, I know they buy all the efficient engine designs and take them off market. That I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:17

Yeah. No, but the they've done a lot with recycling. So the a lot of the current recycling technology comes from some of the super majors exploring how we can crack and redo plastics, right? Because it's for idle cycles in the refineries, things like that. Or if you have so most of our refinery infrastructure, ironically enough, is built for heavier crude than what we typically do. So in the US, we produce a very light, sweet crude. Venezuela, Canada, most of the rest of the world is a heavier sulfur fuel. Right. In fact, so much so that the oil that the US imports is not for capacity. It's because of the chemistry needed in the refineries for the cracking of these fuels and what you can get out of it. So, like if you want asphalt, you can't get that from a light sweet crude. Sure. But you have to have a heavy crude. You have to have a heavy, sour crude for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:14

Why do they call it sweet and sour?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:17

Sulfur content.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:19

So sulfur somehow becomes sweet and sour?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:22

Sulfur. Well, sulfur is a sour, sour, disgusting smell, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:27

I wouldn't call it sour. I I it's a rotten egg smell. It's not a pleasant smell. I know what sulfur smells like, dude. It but it's I wouldn't call it a sour smell. Like to me, it doesn't smell like a lemon or like no, no, no, not that kind of soured. Like something has soured. Rotten. Okay. Just rotten. Yeah, it is a rotten smell. That is a characteristic rotten smell.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:47

Right. So soured is a term for rotten in the case.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:52

Anyway. So rotten smelling or sweet smelling meaning non-rotten smelling. Correct. Okay. And then can you noticeably tell the the light sweet crude like by smell?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:06

Not only by smell, but by sight. The light sweet crude is gonna look a hell of a lot closer to motor oil versus the dark brown instead of black? Exactly. Versus the heavy sour, the the it's gonna look more like tar, right? In fact, the Canadian tar sands are exactly that. Like they to extract it, you have to go through a chemical process. But the Venezuelan and the Canadian are almost identical chemically to our refineries, which is why Alberta is so screwed if they don't join the US.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It sounds like they're pushing for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:42

I mean, Canada's obviously trying to fuck them over. It's looking better and better, dude. Did you see the number they tripled the numbers they needed to get for the referendum?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:53

Yeah, and what more importantly, what I was watching is lawyers for the province talking

Alberta Independence And Next Steps

SPEAKER_01 1:18:00

about how you know. They've been in contact with the administration. They don't need two-thirds majority, they need a simple majority vote.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:12

And and that was the ironically enough, Quebec Quebec themselves because they pushed for those laws because the Quebecois always wanted to leave but keep the money. Exactly. You know, and it's um it's very straightforward. They have a fairly well thought out and legitimized secession process in Canada. And yeah, and and I think they're Alberta's gonna hoist them on their own petard.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:46

Yeah. They're and they're doing it right, in my opinion, meaning what they're saying is look, we want independence. What we do after that, or what other country may decide to join, has nothing at all to do with what's going on right now in Canada. We're talking about independence.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:04

Right. But this this will be a shorter period of independence than Texas had. Probably. That is true. Yeah. Which, by the way, if anyone hasn't watched the fat electrician's video on Sam Houston being the first Green Beret in U.S. history. I doubt that. Dude, he makes the case. He makes the case that Sam Houston was sent into Texas to destabilize and get it independent just so the US could take Texas over.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:32

Makes total sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:33

It actually kind of does.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:37

So was he a green beret or was he the first economic hitman? Well, either one, but you know, every time I drive by his statues, I just want to salute him. No shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:01

Anyway. Alright. There was somewhere else I was gonna go, but I can't remember. Yeah?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:10

I don't know, man. I What you do next weekend. If I if I've got I don't know, probably the same thing I do every weekend. I might do something for Memorial Day. Not sure yet. What kind of mood I'm in. But no, I was gonna say, you know, if you take the the normal six hours a day that I used to spend on politics, it just leaves way less stuff for me to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:40

The bottom line, I mean, I don't want to say I'm boring, but without politics, there's definitely less shit I talk about.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:46

I am sleep deprived and busy at work, so yeah. Yeah, yeah. The only other thing I want to say is it'll be really interesting to see what happens between Paxton and Cornyn. I know you don't really have a problem with John Cornyn, but No, I do.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:06

I just said I used to work across the hall from him. I didn't say I didn't have a problem with him. I don't like him. I voted against him.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:16

Well, don't forget to go vote. Yeah. That's my what day? Tomorrow is the last day of early voting, Friday. What is it, the 22nd?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:30

I just don't understand why we can't vote on the computer. If we could do that, I'd be set.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:34

Yeah, and then Tuesday is the actual election day.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:39

Right, right. So that that's not too bad either. Okay. All right. Well, I guess we'll wrap it up. A little shorter show than we've had in the past, but we've also had some that went on a little too long.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:54

And last and last week was totally Gene's fault. He wanted to play with spaceships instead of do the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:00

I don't know what you're talking about. All I know is uh somebody signed up for a spaceship lesson, and that was you. And so I I said, hey, sorry, dude. Signed up. I got a I got a I got a guy signed up. I I promised I was gonna teach him how to fly a spaceship. Uh you know, that's how it goes.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:16

Yeah, I need to I need I I I gotta figure out you so what do you think here? Last topic, and then we can go. Yeah, but in Star Citizen, what do you think I should do as my first job to go make money?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:32

The most well the the least risky, easiest job most people start doing, including me, is package delivery. Become a UPS driver. It's final destination

First Jobs In Star Citizen That Work

SPEAKER_01 1:22:45

package delivery. That seems so fucking boring. It it forces you to go and explore a lot of areas that you wouldn't see otherwise. And that'll help make it easier for you to figure out kind of where you want to live, what you want to do, what kind of things are going on. But also, you know, there are people that do that for like one or two days and then quickly just buy some firearms and that's it. And from that point on, they're doing nothing but combat stuff. You could totally generate money doing that. It's just risky to do that from the get-go because you you don't you have no bank account to fall back on.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:24

So And what happens if you lose everything in this game?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:29

In this game, if you lose everything, you lose everything. All you can do is then package delivery. That's it. To rebuild or whatever. So there's a reason why you basically buy the ship and get the game for free. Because with the ship having been bought for real money, that ship is yours forever. You can't lose it. You can blow up your ship or have other people blow up your ship and you have to reclaim it, but you'll always be able to get that basic version of your ship with no upgrades, just the way it came originally. You can get that always. And because of that, you can always do package delivery missions. And if you can do package delivery missions, you can start making money. If you start making money, then you can start building up to whatever your actual career is gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:28

So apparently there's a new Padme or whatever in Star Wars, or is there something? But anyway, I just sent you this link, and the meme is casting by woke Jews, and it's got a not very attractive woman, and it's got casting by pervert Jews, parentheses, Harvey Weinstein, and it's got Natalie Portman.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:47

Okay, but there's nothing wrong with casting Natalie Portman.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:52

I completely dude. That is a that is I yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:01

Yes, that incidentally, my ex-wife, when she was Natalie Portman's age, looked exactly like her. I've got well, I probably don't anymore. I had photos of her when she was a teenager. And just totally like Natalie Portman.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:26

Anyway, I uh Yeah. Anyway, Natalie Portman.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:32

I don't see your link, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:34

To what?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:35

I don't know, you said you sent something.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:37

It's in you it's between you and I, not in the show notes.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:40

Oh. Okay. I still don't see it though. Resend it. Alright, dude, let's wrap up. We will catch y'all later. You know, we we enjoy having big news, exciting news days, but it's also sometimes nice not to have those and just have a little quieter week and give us a little more time to do other things.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:00

One other video that I think people should go watch, I think it's pretty good, is Glenn Beck did a little short 10-minute

Final Wrap And What To Watch

SPEAKER_02 1:26:10

video on what all the Trump assassins have in common and what the escalation looks like. And it's really kind of interesting because at this point now, Trump has been has faced more assassination attempts than the other president. I've said that humanity.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:29

Right when it happened, this last one. He's got the record now. Yeah. Yeah. On every front, he's he's winning. Yeah. And when we find out that he owns the other 42% of SpaceX, he'll really be winning. Yeah, Elon's a great guy, but Elon's not the only trillionaire. No, sir. I'm also a trillionaire. Oh, good God.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:00

Can you imagine if he like the left would lose their mind because oh he's barely a billionaire.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:07

He's not like this is this is one of my favorite aspects of Trump, isn't even the decisions he makes, and which generally are good. I've had a few disagreements, but generally good. It's the fact that he just milks liberal tears like nobody.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:31

Well, you've seen the meme about him refilling the Lincoln uh reflecting pool with the tears.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:38

Dude, I've seen the memes him refilling California's water supply with liberal tears.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:43

Also, this is an ad that is hilarious. It's for extra large capacity storage bags. And the first one is a woman hiding her black lover in that topic. Oh my god. God, you gotta love that. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:00

All right guys, we'll catch you all next week.