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Gene and Ben Season 2026 Episode 165

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Something feels off lately, and it’s not just the headlines. We start with a simple story about driving through Houston-area flooding and end up in a much bigger question: what happens when the systems people rely on stop acting like they’re accountable to the public?

We dig into violent unrest in the United Kingdom and the kind of policing decisions that can turn a bad incident into a nationwide flashpoint. From there we zoom out into geopolitics and talk spheres of influence, shifting alliances, and why places like Cuba and Iran keep showing up in the same conversation about legitimacy, control, and what people will tolerate until they won’t. If you’re searching for a political commentary podcast that connects daily life to global strategy, this one draws a straight line between the two.

Then the show takes a few sharp turns: election distrust and “total war” political tactics, culture-war branding and Turning Point USA debates, and how media platforms shape what stories people are allowed to see. We also get practical with money and tech, including SpaceX IPO speculation, Bitcoin price targets, and Texas high-speed rail fights over eminent domain. Finally, we unwind with real life fixes and guilty pleasures: Star Citizen’s real-money ship economy, ergonomic gear to prevent wrist pain, and wellness staples like magnesium forms and Manuka-based products.

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Cold Open And Mic Troubles

SPEAKER_03

Well, how are you, Ben?

SPEAKER_04

How are you today? Oh, Gene, I'm doing good, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You sound like you're bouncing something off the microphone.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no, my thing just pulled out.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, no. I'm sorry. That's a hell of a problem.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, the like I'm gonna have to look at that. I just shoved it back in for now.

SPEAKER_03

Oh sorry. Yeah, just shove that thing right back in there.

SPEAKER_04

Yep, that's what she said.

SPEAKER_03

All right. So, how you uh how you doing? What's been going on?

SPEAKER_04

Doing pretty good. I had to go to Houston this week.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, that's not a very far trip.

SPEAKER_04

No, and it's fine, but it's how is Houston? Humid? It was flooded. It's quite a bit of rain.

SPEAKER_03

Wow, they get a little hail. I don't know what they got.

SPEAKER_04

We we between Houston and College Station, where I'm at now, driving them back. Uh, there were times when I was doing 20 on

Houston Flooding And Highway Survival

SPEAKER_04

the freeway. Damn. Because it was just pouring.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Was it actually standing water or just wet cement?

SPEAKER_04

Portions were standing water, uh, but it was raining just so hard you just you couldn't see.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. There's one time I was driving back from Houston where what's the what's the westbound there? Highway I-10. Yeah. Down I-10, where there was probably a foot-tall puddles of standing water. Yep. A lot of people were going way too fast over them and hydroplaning. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Well, and you know, they're redoing I-10 right now, so it's it's nasty.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. Well, what are they adding? A couple more lanes?

SPEAKER_04

Yep. We need it.

SPEAKER_03

16 lanes is not enough, man. We we gotta have 18 lanes.

SPEAKER_04

My goodness, dude. It's like it's almost getting comical on some of these highways. It's like it is like a if you're in the left-hand lane and need to exit, you better start a mile or two away.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'd say two miles away. Yeah, a mile is not gonna be enough for an exit. No, it's that's very true.

SPEAKER_04

That's one thing I think Houston does better than Dallas. Dallas does not give you enough heads on exits.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the toll roads in Dallas, I don't mind. They're usually built a little better, but yeah, the actual freeways are not as good. They're older. I don't think I don't think Dallas builds anything but toll roads now. Pretty much that way. Yeah. But still, I mean, it's great. Back when I lived there, just get get on a toll way. You'd be doing 85, no cops ever. No one gives a shit. Nothing.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. Same way in Houston.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. It's uh they're all on the freeways.

SPEAKER_04

No, that was a good trip. Hopefully, we're gonna get some business out of it. So there you go.

SPEAKER_03

Good. Obviously, as as per usual, we've had some politicking going on this last week.

SPEAKER_04

A little bit. A little bit. Where do you want to start?

SPEAKER_03

Well, let me cover the thing we're not gonna spend much time on, just to cover it, right? Because I already did like an hour on my other podcast about it, which is the uh the whole Lego drama that's happening. Oh, I don't give a shit about that. I know.

SPEAKER_04

I tried to watch some of that stuff and it was so stupid I couldn't even.

SPEAKER_03

That's why I kinda wanted to talk about it on the other show.

The Internet’s Latest Lego Meltdown

SPEAKER_03

Although Darren's kind of had enough of it too. But yeah, it it's it to me, it is literally Tiger King 2026. It's it's the same set of completely stereotype characters. You get you got everybody from the Mormon mafia to the you know, the crazy YouTuber from California to the local police force, which is corrupt as all hell. It's like all the characters are there representing complete stereotypes. And going so far, I mean, it's like you couldn't film this shit better. It's almost like watching Reno 911 as a cops pull them over for allegedly running a stop sign, then go back to their cards. That's all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I just figured we want to scare him or something, get him to be less annoying. I don't know, maybe we'll arrest him. What the hell, man? That's insane. So yeah, it's it's a it's addictive. So I I end up watching like two or three hours every night to see what all the updates are and who's suing who now, and what and the changes are big that are happening. Like literally, people that were on one side now are flipping to the other side, and then there's more lawsuits flying back and forth. All of the internet lawyers, all the YouTube lawyers, are all doing two-hour segments on this stuff, and they're all disagreeing with each other as well. So it is fascinating. I love stuff like this. It's like slow-motion car wreck. But anyway, like I said, I don't want to spend any time on it on this podcast because we kind of we got plenty of other issues to talk about. So go ahead and pick one.

SPEAKER_04

Britain rioting. Yeah, like actual rioting.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, violent rioting, yeah, violent rioting in the UK, which I'm I'm starting to kind of feel like maybe they'll do something about it. Because for a long time, I just felt no pity for those guys because they don't do anything to help themselves. They let all the Muslims come in, they would take over the country.

UK Riots And Policing Failure

SPEAKER_04

This guy was do nothing about it. This guy was a Sikh, he wasn't a Muslim. Well, and he was allowed to carry the knife because it's a ceremonial blade. I have some of those too. Well, I Scottish can as well, but it's very it's it's not supposed to be a sharp edge, yada yada yada. Like the knife laws in the UK are crazy. Yeah, when they're like I I couldn't take my pocket knives.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no, no, no. No, you you probably couldn't even bring scissors in the plane.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, no, I could. I and I did. Did you? But really, yeah. Anyway, but no, the riders are throwing bricks at cops. Yeah. Like they're full on like this shit. They're done with it. Well, the but and the cops have been the worst part of it too out there. When the when the body cam like we we knew about this story a while ago, but when the body cam footage got released of you know them cuffing the guy because the Sikh told him that he was a racist and I've been stabbed. I don't think so, mate. You know? Fucking check him. Like they probably couldn't have saved him, but they would not be having these riots right now had the cops given a shit about him and called for an ambulance. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. They don't care. No, and then I think one of two things is gonna happen. Either British cops are all of a sudden gonna be assigned guns because the violent criminals in the UK now are out of control and they need guns, which is gonna be flipping like 50 years of culture on their head when they basically said, you know, our country is so civilized that our police don't even need to carry guns. Or we're gonna have the opposite effect, where the populace is going to go from bricks to even more deadly things. It's gonna be one or the other.

SPEAKER_04

So well, it's I think it's gonna be pretty interesting to see uh what the Brits end up doing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But I think this I'd love to see Scotland its independence, man.

SPEAKER_03

I would love to see that. Yeah, well, we gotta go to your castle.

SPEAKER_04

You're weak enough now, I'm claiming this. Yeah, exactly. Um, I I think this is the British public's real last chance. It is. If the when the next set of parliamentary elections comes up, if reform and restore don't sweep, they're done. Like I I you can even get to the point where you have to have a coalition government between reform and restore, but you gotta get at least that. And if you don't get that, you're done.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. I I totally agree. I I think they're they're on their last opportunity, as it were, to get this done in a way where the country survives as a country. Because otherwise it's it's a it's a fucking caliphate ban.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you know, reform and restore are both promising mass deportations.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

They're I mean, they both both parties are sounding more and more Trumpian.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Yep. So I I have hope that in the new you know, three-way hegemonies that we're going to have, and and I've been calling this for a while, right? Like I said Trump was gonna do a neo Monroe doctrine before he came out with the Donro.

SPEAKER_03

I was there when you first said it, and I was like, You really think so? I don't know, man. That's yeah, you called it, you totally called it.

SPEAKER_04

Give you that So I I have hope that Britain will be in the US's sphere of influence. The rest of Europe can go to Russia, I don't care. Yeah, Asia, India,

Spheres Of Influence And World Realignment

SPEAKER_04

all that can go to probably be the Middle East.

SPEAKER_03

They'll they'll just all just become part of the caliphate.

SPEAKER_04

No one gives a shit about Africa at this point. Yeah, but China kind of still does.

SPEAKER_03

They that's where they get their minerals.

SPEAKER_04

But the minerals are so hard to extract from there. Like, we don't have that problem because we have Latin America and North America and Australia and you know all those countries. Like, I think the first island chain is gonna be where China's eastern influence stops, and where our western influence begins.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's I think you know, India and China are also much like Russia and China. I I think eventually, one way or another, they're gonna get it anyway. But I think, you know, India and China have they have cooperation and they do a lot of trade, but also they have a lot of troops on each other's borders. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

They constantly clash over Kashmir.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And you know, India is not all that happy about Tibet either, so there's a lot of like they would India would dump all trade with China given a better alternative. If all of a sudden, like, Latin America started producing all this stuff, they would sooner buy.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you mean like as we take over Cuba and Venezuela? Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, what's the latest on Cuba? So I haven't heard much other than that we were planning on going in there, but I haven't heard uh anything well we had the CIA chief down there, so there's that. Oh, Marco Rubio?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_03

Isn't he the the temporary acting CIA chief as well?

SPEAKER_04

No, but we do need to DNI.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

Anyway,

Cuba, Iran, And Regime Cracks

SPEAKER_04

it's they're in dire straits, man.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, that guy another joke about Mark. Marco will be the first president in history to also serve as his own vice president.

SPEAKER_04

Oh you know the guy wears so many hats. I actually can see a couple decent uh VP candidates for him. I don't think it's gonna be Vance.

SPEAKER_03

No, definitely not.

SPEAKER_04

So I don't know where Vance is gonna land and end up.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I think Vance will become a senator again, is my guess. Because he certainly has enough cachet to do that. Or you know what else? What, governor? Supreme Court. No. Why not? Don't trust him. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Well, anyway, I think Cuba is gonna fall here pretty quick, and we're gonna get that.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, it's amazing that they still haven't, honestly. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04

It's like you you leave communism in place too long, and people just like Iran, it's why hasn't why haven't the Iranian people stood up? Yeah, stood up.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and there's been I've been watching that, right? I've been watching a lot of those broadcasts, and right now there are more videos leaking out actually showing that there has been a lot of demonstrations and people pushing back, but none of those videos have made it out because their internet's been cut off. And right now they're starting to you know come out thanks to more people running on satellites. Yeah, now we're starting to get more videos, but none of them are like from yesterday, they're from a month ago, month and a half ago.

SPEAKER_04

So we did get news on Iran, though, is that the the president is stepping down. This is not the supreme leader, this is the actual president, right? Like it used to be Ahmadina Jod.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know who the current guy is, but he's stepping down and saying the IGRC or whatever it is is in complete control, which gives them no cover anymore or semblance of a civilian government, and it gives the regular military cover to say, no, we're gonna support the civilian government.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because IGRC represents about 12%. So now they're the armed 12%, fortunately, but they're certainly not you know, they're not the majority or anywhere near the majority of the population. They're just you know, on the animal farm, they're they're the pigs.

SPEAKER_04

Um but again, so whether it's Iran or Cuba, you leave a people to be subjugated for too long. And I think there's a lot to the statement of what one generation accepts the next uh what one generation tolerates the next accepts. I think we need a lot of Cuban Americans to decide to go back to Cuba and foment a rebellion.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, yep. Well, and there again, Marco is the the the first new commandant of Cuba in the hundred years. All for it. Just you know, treat it like the old timey territories we used to have.

SPEAKER_04

Agreed. Make it the ne make it the next Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_03

And make Guantanamo the capital of Cuba. Just for historical reasons. Havana should be a tourist town. Havana does not need to be the capital. Okay, and the historical reasons would be Well, because Guantanamo was the oldest portion of Cuba held by the US since the liberation of Cuba when we did that for them. You're welcome. Well, they're not very welcoming. That's the problem. No shit. Everybody's not very welcoming. I mean, the the reason we have Europe is because we gave it to them after World War II. We could have kept it. Spoils of victory from Germany. German takes over Poland, we take over Germany, that means Poland's ours, right?

SPEAKER_04

Well, and yes, but you know, with them with the shit, what was the loan program?

Postwar Alliances And American Hubris

SPEAKER_04

Lindlease program.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Lindlease. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Right, but there was a name for it that I'm blanking on. Okay. Anyway. I thought it was just Land Lease. No, there's another name for it. But post post-World War II, you know, how we rebuilt Europe. Yeah. We should have maintained control. Same thing with Japan, right? Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, you know, hey, guys, Australia, US territory now. It was hubris. It was hubris about the fact that if you enlightened a people to the American way of living, they will become just like us. That that was the false belief that a lot of people had post-World War II for in America that assumed that given the opportunity, any people in the world will simply emulate us and become just like us and become our friends. And the reality is no. Because a lot of people's ethnic, historical, cultural divides will keep existing.

SPEAKER_04

Well, now we we did we here's the interesting thing. Like the Europeans have never really been great allies to us. However, the Japanese have.

SPEAKER_03

No. They've not been great allies. They they have gotten more money out of the US than Israel by a long shot. In just pure donations, first of all. Secondly, the Japanese offshored their military on us for the last 60 years for free. By the uh constitution we imposed upon them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the constitution that they could have changed, like they are right now, they could have changed, but they maintained it for 60 years.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but they have been a good trading ally. And they and trading ally, yes, yes. And as they grow their military, I think they'll be a very good defensive ally.

SPEAKER_03

Um I think there's a lot of nationalism in Japan that exists now just like it did 60, 70 years ago. And I think what you're gonna find is that when the military starts to become more modernized, and look, uh, if anybody can do it, the Japanese can. We know what they did with cars.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you can have what they did with their new aircraft carrier.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

They built it as not an aircraft carrier and made it into an aircraft carrier.

SPEAKER_03

So I think Japan could easily rival and or beat American technological innovation. They've done it before. And so, and they don't have the issues that China has with quality control, thanks to or corruption. Yeah, or corruption, exactly. Now they've got some other issues, they've got a very elderly population right now. So realistically, Japan is basically going to starve its old people in order to move forward, and the newer Japan is of a smaller size, like there's there's fewer future generations.

SPEAKER_04

As they build out their patriotism, as they build up their military, do you think that changes?

SPEAKER_03

Well, I think it's going to change, but it you can't go back in time 20 years and have more kids. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

And in the the the rebuilding of the global we're past the point of no return in most countries, including the United States. We are going to go through a population decline. It's just the question is how long before that rebounds? And does it rebound?

SPEAKER_03

I think it will. Because I don't think this is actually a controversial opinion. I was going to say maybe this is just my opinion, but I think a lot of the reason for the shrinking population demographic that we've seen across the world is in the large part thanks to the cheap and very available birth control. Not

Population Decline And Birth Control Debates

SPEAKER_03

all kids for the last 2,000 years were born because their parents wanted kids. A lot of them were born because their parents wanted sex.

SPEAKER_04

Hold on. There's an even more damning statistic. What's that? That really places the blame on women.

SPEAKER_03

What's that?

SPEAKER_04

Estimates of global abortions. Oh, abortions, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is three billion since the 1960s.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and I yeah, I guess I'm throwing that in there.

SPEAKER_04

I'm throwing the birth control in with the Do you know the estimate of the number of men who have died in all wars throughout recorded history?

SPEAKER_03

I don't, but I've seen the comparison, it's less than the number of kids averted. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's um it is a crazy, and I think in retrospect it will be seen as a fairly savage practice. Because it's one thing to prevent conception, it's another thing to terminate conception. And where I think the research absolutely should have been is on preventing conception. Not terminating it, and not using Determination that leaves the woman alive as a substitute for prevention. And this is the thing. Like, before we had safe abortions, as they say, women still got abortion. Like abortions as a concept is also fairly old. It's probably 2,000 years old as well. There were plenty of known brews of various plants that would result in a an abortion.

SPEAKER_04

Angel's Mercy, yeah. So Angel's Mercy was used for a long time. No, well, not just that, but it was used as a by midwives if the pregnancy wasn't progressing instead of doing a DNI.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so but what always has existed was a fairly severe danger to the life of the woman. Yes. And you know, when there's a chance you might die when you get pregnant, whether it's an advertent or by desire, women tend to place a much greater value on sex. And so you got you better make sure that A, you're having sex with the right guy, and that that guy can afford a good midwife. Because otherwise you're gonna be dead just from your first kid. So I think that making abortion safe and then later just creating the pill, both of those functions effectively took the risk that women have had for the entire history of the world on them, took that risk away, and made multiple generations at this point of women effectively not act like every other woman for the entire history of the world in placing a great value and trying to protect the choice of who she has sex with and how often and etc. etc. Because every time a woman had sex, there was a danger she's gonna die. I mean, not that day, but nine months later, or you know, whatever earlier if the if it was a the baby was not gonna be progressing correctly, it could end up killing the mother. So yeah, you can say, well, we've had the medical advances to ensure that that doesn't happen, but unfortunately, those medical advances also changed the response and behavior of women knowing that nothing bad is gonna happen. And the only consequences today are financially speaking of bad behavior.

SPEAKER_04

Did you see that uh Bonnie Blue is pregnant? No, oh my god, you gotta be shitting me. Nope, she is, and she's going out still partying and doing shots. That kid has no shot at a normal life, dude. That kid is gonna be OnlyFans.

SPEAKER_03

Probably already is well in her belly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure, I'm sure that's the case. I guess she's figured out that there's a a pregnant

Adult Fame And Pregnancy Backlash

SPEAKER_03

kink out there and taking advantage of it.

SPEAKER_04

There's nothing wrong with that kink, Gene. Oh, okay, then pregnant women are beautiful, yeah. Yeah, I I'm not it at all uh the you know, increase in breast size and big fail death, and yes, you know, all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, some some of us may have rather enjoyed that time in our lives.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I yeah, I mean, I've dated a chick that was what do you call it when the milk was coming up? She was lactating, yeah, lactating years after she had a kid. Yeah, so it can be fun. Sure, yeah. Not not opposed to any of that. But anyway, as far as Bonnie Blue, I just it's just people who shouldn't reproduce, right? Right.

SPEAKER_04

Oh and the question I have, does she have any clue who the father is, given her antics?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, she probably does. I'd be surprised if she didn't. I mean, that's the one thing about porn stars is they track all this shit a lot better than you think they do. Because uh they they have to go in for SD testing regularly for every single shoot. Yeah, and in some cases with these people, it's literally weekly. So yeah, I I suspect she does know. But also, how is she pregnant, which means she would have had to have stopped birth control three months minimum? You can't just not take it once and become pregnant instantly. It's a gradual hormonal release. Okay. So that means this is to some degree planned. She didn't forget to take a pill one day, she stopped taking pills for a few months.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so apparently it was a the breeding mission. She originally claimed she became pregnant after having protected sex with 400 men. Oh, so that was her whole shtick, is I've stopped taking birth control and then she is planning a new video, the golden baby shower. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

Jesus Christ. Like she's gotta be messing with just evil. I would I would just hope she's making lots of money because if she's not, it's just pathetic. Well, it's just evil. Well, I don't know, man. I mean, it's it's definitely gross. I don't know if I would go so far as evil, because again, who is she really truly harming? The kid. An adult, not harming a kid until the kid pops out of there.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, she is harming the kid by drinking, but she knows she's harming the kid by I mean, she's risking the kid with after becoming pregnant, yeah, with going planning another scene where she's gonna engage in some sort of scat video or golden shower video and potentially exposing herself and the child to God only knows what.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's the thing. Again, it's not like and again, I'm speaking based on what I've seen in documentaries, but I would say it's probably more safe for a porn shoot that has golden showers than for a you know, neighborhood wife swap gangbang with golden showers, because in the porn shoot everyone's tested all the time, and and for SCDs, but also for other things, you know. And you know, urine should be sterile, but in theory, yeah. And the other thing, speaking of the uh so I've watched one of the documentaries on HBO used to have a lot of documentaries documentary, interesting choice of words. Documentary is where they they show all the background scenery and then interview everybody. That's what a documentary is. But they used to have a show on HBO called Real Sex, they had another show that followed what's the guy's name, Buttman or something, or I can't find out, dude. Something like that. Anyway, the when there were there was a golden shower scene that was gonna be filmed, all the girls were sitting there and drinking two things. They were drinking mostly bottled water, like you know, Avian or whatever, and then they were drinking coconut milk for electrolytes, and they're basically just sitting there doing this for an hour before the shoot just to make sure their bladders are full. So the stuff that's coming out of them is gonna be very clean water that just got absorbed, and you know, presumably just not something I'm into, and it's just the you're not German, obviously.

SPEAKER_04

Of course you're not into it. Well, that would be the other way, but anyway. The uh other way scat, scheizer, German Scheizer pawn.

SPEAKER_03

Well, they like they like both kinds, dude. If you can put rubber on the German, they'll do anything. Put them in the rubber scene.

SPEAKER_04

Put them in latex, you go uh gimphood and uh you go. Yeah, anyway, moving off that topic though. Okay, fair enough. So we are seeing a lot of cheating in California, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Fox News has called the governor's race for Hilton, so Hilton's gonna be one in the primary. So now Spencer Pratt, he's in a tougher position, and it

California Vote Dumps And Republican Strategy

SPEAKER_04

is really interesting to watch these vote dumps come in just screwing him over in LA County.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, it's not surprising at all. That's just how that works out there.

SPEAKER_04

So hopefully he can eke it out and beat what's our friends.

SPEAKER_03

This is this has always been my frustration with the Republicans is that the liberals play total war. The Republicans play by the rules. So the only way the Republicans win is if so many people genuinely, like in Trump's first election, vote contrary to the prognosis, the expectations, that the liberals literally can't generate enough fake shit to surpass it. That's what happened with Hillary and Trump. But they were ready for Trump's second term. And so that's why we had the most votes of any election in the history of the United States were cast for Joe Biden. One of the least popular presidents we've ever had. Less votes cast for Hillary than Biden? Is are you nuts? It's literally impossible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, but that but okay, that I I I kind of get more. Because, you know, he's black.

SPEAKER_04

But but he was also a very popular democratic president.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was. But also I remember, I distinctly remember having a conversation with a a co-worker that I was working at Target at the time. And the Yeah, so the the th I remember when he was elected, I was disappointed, but I also said, well, two things happen now because of this. Number one, white people can now say nigger. And two, that Obama is not gonna be nearly as liberal a president as l my liberal friends think he is.

SPEAKER_04

Disagree. And I think he was very liberal, and I think he created more race tension than anybody else.

SPEAKER_03

And I was totally wrong on the first one, but I think I was right on the second one, because what they were expecting was a Jimmy Car Jimmy Carter Squared. You know, they were expecting an Uber liberal, no military action, no police, you know, brutality kind of guy. Like they thought that they finally got a president that was just gonna finish all that shit, all the Republican wars and all the the police brutality and everything else. And it was just gonna be like they were ex- Here's what they were expecting. They were expecting Mundami. Yeah, I guess. And what they got was a guy that killed more people with drone strikes than the previous ten presidents did with any military action. So don't drum me, bro. Yeah, exactly. And you know, I'm not saying he was good, I'm just saying he wasn't as that version of liberal as liberals thought that they would get. And I think that part was right. But unfortunately, you're right, he did more to fuck over race relations than anything, because instead of saying, okay, well, we we finally have full parity, there's nothing that a black person can't do anymore that a white person can. You know, we got a black president. That's the epitome of achievement. And so everyone ought to be laughing at races jokes together now, right? Like nobody should be offended anymore, right? And instead, what we got was the exact opposite. We we got more pushback and offense. We got what's that thing called? Something race theory, critical race theory. That existed beforehand, but yeah, but it it became mainstream during him. And we started having a like regular college kids, not the super edgy members of the communist club college kids, but normal college kids. Thinking that you're born if you're born white, you're born with original sin.

SPEAKER_02

Like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04

Well, it it's it only racism ha racist has become a term that can only be applied to white people, which is obviously insane. Yeah, because all blacks are racist. We know that. Well, m multiple people can be racist. But you know, it quite frankly, changing the subject a little bit, but really hammering on the wokeness, it's like Talerico. If Talerico gets elected, he's gonna do the same damn thing across the board. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, or you better not be elected. Well, the latest poll of Texas 26 general election poll by Newsweek, 800 likely voters conducted June 3rd through June 4th. Paxton only has a two-point advantage, which is within the Yeah, that's because they conducted the polls only in cities.

SPEAKER_03

They didn't conduct them anywhere outside of cities. I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_04

Governor, governatorial race is 4941, Lieutenant Governor's 4940, attorney generals 4739. That's the the the 4543 is the closest one by far. Um, so we'll see. But you know, if if Talerico gets elected, we get what we deserve. Yeah. With all the procedural moves, with everything going on, if the Republicans do not hold the House and the Senate, in fact, increase their House majority, we are screwed.

SPEAKER_03

Texas Republicans have been pussies anyway.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I don't think Kim Paxson's gonna be a pussy. He's done pretty good.

SPEAKER_03

No, not I'm not talking about Paxton, I mean in the in the state house.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, I s the main dude with the Totenkampf tattoo is finally losing steam over some of his.

SPEAKER_03

Did he never get a tattoo removed?

SPEAKER_04

He did get the tattoo removed. He did, but after the campaign had started. You know, and he there are text messages that have come out, you know, like he's gonna blitzkrieg your ass and shit like that. The dude is a Nazi. Yeah. Which, hey, whatever. But given the left, and it's hilarious to me that they didn't cancel him over being a Nazi, they're canceling him over the sexual relationships that he had. Right. He's getting on some kink website or something. Yeah, it has nothing to do with his actual ideology. And yes, Gene, I saw that video too on X. I figured that was you under there. For those who are curious, Gene just sent me a text message with a link to a video of someone having a cucumber removed from their anus. I I didn't know such a thing.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know what you're talking about. Screenshot it before you delete it. Exactly. Uh it's posted the show. People putting things in their behinds that don't belong there is just still, I would think a cucumber is at least not as bad as a hamster.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. Well, you you saw gerbil. Yeah, gerbil. Yeah, you you saw that uh what's his face was going after Trump. Who? The Hollywood star that from the 90s year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was going after Trump? Mr.

SPEAKER_02

Gerbilan?

SPEAKER_04

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god. Yeah, hilarious. Yeah, when they did that on South Park, it was gross enough in cartoon form that I could not imagine it in real form. Uh-huh. Oh my god. Mr. Slave. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

I can't help it. I can't help it. It's just too funny. South Park has done really well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. They just kind of went off the rails with this year with the you know Charlie Kirk's or last year, I guess, with the Charlie Kirk stuff and the Trump stuff. Which, oh, don't you love turning point USA's new turn?

SPEAKER_04

Well, what's I I don't know what's going on. What's going on? They're gonna focus on excuse me. They're gonna focus on women's empowerment now.

SPEAKER_02

What?

SPEAKER_04

Yup. That seems out of left field.

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Well, there's a woman

Turning Point’s Shift And Feminism Fears

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running it now. Yeah. But I didn't think there was a woman spelled with the letter X.

SPEAKER_04

Well, apparently. You know, the more I look at it and the more I look at her and Charlie's relationship, I think he's run into, I think he ran into what a lot of us do. You think you're getting a good Christian woman, you think that she believes the same things you do, but deep down, she's still a fucking feminist.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and that's I I think that is inevitable given where you live. I don't mean you, I mean America. Well um because I could well I could tell you for sure, my ex-wife was 100% not a feminist in Russia. It's the furthest thing from a feminist. She loved clothes, she loved lipstick, she loved having other people do things for her. She had an interest in cooking and in housekeeping. She had no interest in any kind of masculine shit at all. Well, how'd you fuck it up? And uh well, I think America fucked it up. I don't think I fucked it up.

SPEAKER_04

I I think it's society, and I I I I blame the churches, to be honest with you. Yeah, good boy.

SPEAKER_03

I kept mine out of churches, so that wasn't the case in this case.

SPEAKER_04

Right, but like the churches are simps. You know, if you if you if you go to the pastor and say, Hey, she's not having sex with me, she's not doing this, she's not doing that, they're gonna

Churches, Marriage, And COVID Closures

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say, Well, what have you done to make her happy? What have you done to do this? You're supposed to love her as your own body, as Christ loved the church. To which I reply and say, Yes. And what did Christ do when he went into the temple and saw the money changers? He ran them off, flipped over tables, and beat people to because the church was not in line with where it needed to be.

SPEAKER_03

Well, to be fair, the money changers were not the church, but I get the analogy you're saying, yeah.

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Christ is not a pacifist character in at least my version of Christianity. Yeah.

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And I don't know. Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. The term that's used there in Greek doesn't mean what we think of in modern language as meek. It means those who are capable of violence, but wait for the a just reason for it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. That's the people say, let's let's kind of calm down everybody.

SPEAKER_04

It's and don't forget his commandment to his disciples have a sword. If you do not have a sword, go out and sell your cloak. Yep.

SPEAKER_03

And get a sword, be armed, be ready, be capable of that like that version of Jesus that you're describing falls in line a lot better with the historical Jews living in Israel under Roman occupation.

SPEAKER_04

And the actual prophesied Messiah, but yes.

SPEAKER_03

Well, but there's a lot that the prophesied Messiah was going to achieve that that Christ didn't. But there were a lot of people, like you don't have to be a messiah to have those feelings when Rome was occupying your territory. There was a lot of rebellions going on, most of them unsuccessful.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I think that you don't have to even be occupied, or you just need to that that that is a freedom-loving version of Jesus. Yeah. And what I would say, and I've had arguments with pastors in the past, especially over closing their churches during COVID-19. Oh my God. And I I literally had someone say, Well, you Christ told us to render unto Caesar. What is Caesar's? Yeah. This isn't fucking Caesar's. Your right to religious practice and so on, your freedom of speech, what you do, that is inherent. No government should be allowed to lock you down. How dare you give that to them? Anyway. Absolutely. Amen. I I I I I beat a pastor up over that. This was uh the pastor at Williams preschool that he went to. Because, you know, it's it's not a church I was going to, but it's a program we wanted to get him into, and I had to sit down and talk with the pastor. And we disagreed on some things, but we agreed on some things. And, you know, hey, when y'all are teaching the kids, what are you teaching the kids? Because if you're teaching him that shit, I don't want him here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, and I went with my King James Bible that's marked up from the time I was probably about 12, and my strongest concordance is about the same. And I don't think he was expecting that level of philosophical debate. Mm-hmm. Anyway, the the point though is I I think that the churches, everything's on the husband, and they're ignoring that the wife has there's all the accountability and none of their duties in the world on the husband, but none on the wife. Right. Because the pastor should ch turn to her and say, I'm gonna ask him why you don't want to and what he's doing to make you not want to, but that doesn't really matter. It is part of your duty. It's something that is a responsibility of yours.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I think uh relating to that phrase, the the important thing to remember is that he's talking about Roman coins.

SPEAKER_04

Right, he's talking about taxation.

SPEAKER_03

Well, he's talking about paying taxes which were paid in denarii, which were Roman, not the the coins used in Israel. So it's a and incidentally, this is where the money changers come from as well, because you cannot use foreign currency in any offerings of the temple, so they have to be exchanged for shekels.

SPEAKER_04

So it's a Jews being picky about their money shocker.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's the way God wants it. I'm sorry, you know, bring it up with him. So the idea that you you take the foreign money and that you're paying in taxes, well, it's not your money anyway, that's that's Rome's money. So that phrase totally makes sense to me. Yeah. So I my this has always been my contention is that if you look at the those writings in a purely historical context, forget about walking on water, forget about you know rising from the dead. Just take all the stuff that doesn't seem like it would be magical, right? So take all the non-magical stuff. That

Render Unto Caesar In Context

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version of Jesus absolutely falls in line with what was happening historically during that 2,000-year-old period of time and the Roman occupation.

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And if you take that view, then Jesus is nothing but a heretical rabbi with some pretty liberal views.

SPEAKER_03

Well, not necessarily liberal. I mean, you could also see him the exact same way you see Martin Luther. Is like, hey, we've strayed from the truth here, and you know, this is what the truth is that I'm bringing back. So I I don't see a problem with that. Like, I think that that version of Jesus is just a subset of your version of Jesus. Yeah. Um, you've got that plus the uh the mystical stuff.

SPEAKER_04

Well, the point was though that the church has become simps and that they are not looking at the historical version, they are not looking at like who who thinks that a first century man, if his wife said no to sex, what do you think he would have done?

SPEAKER_03

Well, let's let's ask Joseph what he did.

SPEAKER_04

There you go. Anyway, moving on. The Erica Kirk is obviously falling into this boss girl mentality and going down that road.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm gonna fight that belief as long as I can because there's no way I'm gonna agree with Candace.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. Women's empowerment is the new thing at Turning Point USA. Maybe they're gonna empower women to keep their legs together. I don't want to agree with Candace either, Gene. But when you see something like this, it's like the fuck.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

You were supposed to be the trad wife, you're supposed to be the stay-at-home wife.

SPEAKER_03

Well, okay, okay. So you remember when this first happened, we had an episode we recorded. Yeah. Uh like that day. We're like, oh my god, this is crazy. Yeah. And I said that day, I was very surprised when Erica was going to be taking over because her place is now to take care of her family and maintain the tradition started by Charlie. Not to run a fucking business on top of that. So, you know, I guess maybe there were some inklings of that early on. I don't know. Let's let's wait and find out, because it's it's too easy to jump in with both feet without knowing the full, you know. Okay, well, here you go. Here you go. Hold on, hold on, let me read something.

SPEAKER_04

Here uh between now and the 7th in San Antonio, they're doing women's leadership summit.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. So women's leadership summit from TP USA. Do you know how long it's been running?

SPEAKER_04

That's the but the the point is the context and the content of it has shifted.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, the point is do you know how long an event called Young Women's Leadership Summit has been running? Probably the entire time Turning Point USA has been. Yeah, yeah, from 2015. Yeah. So 11 years.

SPEAKER_04

That's not the point. I'm not saying the leadership summit is something new.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

I'm saying there's a marked change in the content there in.

SPEAKER_03

Is there? Have we checked the two contents from pre-Charlie's death to post-Charlie's death content and see if it differs? Or are we just assuming?

SPEAKER_04

I have not, but it would be hard for me to, based off the content of this year's, to see that Charlie would agree with that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I don't know, man. I I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt because again, when I look up this event, they this has been a part of Turning Point USA for 11 years. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Let's look here. Curated for her, empowered for the women seeking clarity, redeemed, holistic.

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The content of events includes traditional gender roles, encouraging women to focus on marriage, motherhood, and homemaking, opposition to abortion, and cultural conservatism, framing feminism as a threat to empowerment, and promoting a return to traditional American. The Christian version of feminism is still there. Well, I'm saying if it's been there for the last 11 years, and we you're just kind of pointing a finger at it because Charlie's not there, I don't see that as a problem.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Well, next show we'll come back with some receipts. Well, I'm I mean, you can come back with receipts. I'm reading them right now. Uh, it's it it looks like this is something that is being singled out because it's not Charlie doing this, but his wife. But all she's doing is continuing events that were done for many, many years with him present, where empowerment clearly means empowering women to choose tradition, not empowering them to fuck men over. So I would just say it's easy to uh read headlines and then assume divorce. Let's not let's not be Candace.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, thanks for the uh insult.

SPEAKER_03

It's just a backhanded insult. I didn't even front hand you. See, you're supposed to turn the other cheek, man, or had you forgotten?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, well, there are several types of Christians. So anyway, moving on from this then. I like the new DNI.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. God damn, Erica's wearing a gold outfit. Holy shit. Wow. Okay, sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04

So the this new guy, Pruitt, starts the process, right? And Trump has authorized him to temporary dude, right? He's not full-time. Well, Trump hasn't made his nomination for full-time.

DNI Upheaval And Intel Agency Layoffs

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So he's serving as temporary, so he has 200 and some odd days. Right, right, right. Trump can nominate him. I don't know if he would get past the Senate or not, but he has a mandate to go in and start doing mass layoffs.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I saw that. At all 18 intelligence agencies. Is awesome. Yes. No. These are good things. And Tulsi on her way out is dropping some bombshells.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think Tulsi was in the wrong role. I've said this before. I like her. She was in the wrong role.

SPEAKER_04

I I don't agree because I don't think she was really functioning as DNI. I think she was there to go dig up the dirt she's dug up, drop the bombshells, and then run as a spoiler candidate in 28. I think she's gonna run on the Democratic, she's gonna run for the Democratic ticket. You think? And say I disagreed with Trump for Iran, but you know what? The Democrats have been yada yada yada. They've been horrible. She won't win the Democratic primary, but what she'll do is shift then to an independent, and she will take the center, the the center-leaning Democrats away from the Democratic candidate, giving the Republican candidate.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you think she's gonna pull a Kennedy?

SPEAKER_04

She's gonna pull a Ross Perot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, I think Ross Perot didn't really care about stealing the votes. I thought he genuinely thought he would win.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but the effect was such. Yeah. I no, Ross Perot was a legitimate candidate who ran for the right reasons, you know. NAFTA and the great sucking sound coming out of Canada and Mexico. Let me show you a chart. Which he was completely right on.

SPEAKER_03

He was very good with charts. The man was a genius. He had big ears, that proves it. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's uh yeah. And he liked horses. Yeah. You know, on on the EDI property there, which I lived next to for quite a while, they had like seventh generation horses that his dad started there. Even though the company's a tech company. They had well, dude, he owned most of Plano. He literally owned over 50% of Fort Worth. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's it was like Fort Worth Airport is the Ross Perot Airport.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Exactly. So I I liked them in the day. Ross Perot was the first guy I ever voted for. So like I say, I say I've never in my entire life voted for a Democrat. Never will. But I I've absolutely voted for third-party candidates as well as Republicans.

SPEAKER_04

I I've only voted for one Republican presidential candidate in my life. No, who's that? Trump. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. So Chicago no longer has a football team. Yeah.

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And Indiana is getting one.

SPEAKER_03

That is wild. Hilarious. It is hilarious. And the Dallas no longer has a ice uh hockey team. What do you mean? They don't. Where'd the stars move?

SPEAKER_04

Llano. Eh. Well, I mean Plano

Teams Moving And Metro Identity Fights

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is building it's not the same thing because it's in the same state and it's in the same metropolitan.

SPEAKER_03

But there's a lot of cows.

SPEAKER_04

That's like saying the cow they don't have a football team anymore because the Cowboys moved to Arlington.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's right. Exactly. They don't.

SPEAKER_04

Chicago to Indiana is a little different.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, Chicago, Indiana is literally the same distance as Arlington to Plano. Look it up on the map.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but they're different states.

SPEAKER_03

They're different states because there's a borderline, but it's basically the same city. You know, Gary, Indiana is literally across the border, but part of Chicago. If you see it in the map of huge metroplex.

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It feels differently to me.

SPEAKER_03

It feels different. I agree. I totally agree. But I'm just saying that I think it's hilarious that the city of Dallas.

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Most people wouldn't call Dallas or Plano, Plano, that says Dallas Fort Worth.

SPEAKER_03

Well, most people who've never lived there might. I've lived there. I've lived there too. Yeah. And and Plano, I think, has grown tremendously since I was there. Not as much as Frisco, which grew even more. But you know, when I moved to Plano, there's still a ton of empty land in Plano. There's still cow pastures in Plano. Yeah. There's still cow cow pastures in the mid-cities, too. Well, not like it used to be. But anyway, the point is they're building the stars a massive complex, which I guess is the new thing for a lot of cities, where they don't just have a isolated hockey arena. They have basically a giant shopping mall with the hockey arena inside the mall. Cool. So that's what they're their whole deal is pivoted on. Is there's going to be it's a way for them to make money off of sports merchandise during the offseason as well, and to have use of the ice rink for other things as well. Yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

What do you think of the New Jersey ice facility stuff going on?

SPEAKER_03

It looks like New Jersey cops were like getting hammered. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

But they stood their ground and pushed them back.

SPEAKER_03

Did they? Okay. I saw a bunch of videos showing them getting beat up.

SPEAKER_04

Well, there's definitely been some protests, and there's definitely been some astroturfing going on.

SPEAKER_03

I never know with Jersey, man. It's I worked there once and I think the Sopranos really got New Jersey done well. Like very accurate representation of New Jersey. It's a it's a state that has the boardwalk and it has basically white trash deep in the woods where should disappears land.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, the only time I've ever been to New Jersey is Newark. And it it's no different than man, you know, New York to me. It's just it smells worse.

SPEAKER_03

It's not all there's the rotten milk smell all through New York City, dude. New York smells like pot. I was there in January. It just the whole damn city smells like pot.

SPEAKER_04

Well, it's been a couple of years since I've been there, but the last time I was there, the whole damn place smelled like rotten milk.

SPEAKER_03

What time of the year were you there? June, July. Okay. Yeah, yeah. When it was warm. I was I was there in what, February. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it gets different smell in the summer. That could very well be. But I was I was shocked because to me it smelled the way that, like, when you're deep in San Francisco, it smells. Although less shit smelled in San Francisco.

SPEAKER_04

So what are your takes on the call between Trump and Netanyahu?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I don't know. I mean, they talk all the time, dude. I I think this is a you're fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_04

You're only not in jail because I saved your ass. You're the one making people hate the Jews in Israel.

SPEAKER_03

This is literally the conversation Ben and I have between us

Trump And Netanyahu Power Dynamics

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as well. So this is not anything special.

SPEAKER_04

You are fucking crazy, G. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh. Yeah, you just wait. Total war, baby. Total war. Yeah, I I don't think that there's any issues there. I you know Netanyahu will forever consider Trump to be, you know, the greatest ally to Israel ever. Yeah. Nothing, no amount of public shaming is gonna change that. That's uh that's fine. I I have no problem with that. There there has to be a hierarchy. You can't have a leader of a little tiny country the size of New Jersey, speaking of New Jersey, be seen as a parody to the leader of the most powerful nation in the world. You can't. It's it's not it's not right, it's not legitimate, and it's not realistic. So you know, Netanyahu needs to appear very hawkish to his own people, but ultimately he is knows very well that he's playing within the framework that the United States is putting together. Who do you think leaked it? I mean, there I think there's way too many people that could have Oh, I think it was at Trump's direction. Yeah. It could have just as easily been in Israel, too.

SPEAKER_04

Well, except Axio said that they had a White House inside her, but yes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that's where the original came from. It just means that they got it from the White House. The White House could have gotten it from somewhere else, who got it from somewhere else. Yeah, I I don't know. I I I really don't think it's it's that big a deal. It'll it's not like it's gonna change any relations between anybody. And watching the Israeli channels, they don't seem to have a negative view of Trump at all on this.

SPEAKER_04

No, Trump has a huge approval rating there, and I think it's funny that he's joked about going to the wrong.

SPEAKER_03

It's higher than in Israel than it is in the US, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's 90 fucking percent in Israel. Yeah, he's joked about going and being the prime minister.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

He probably could get elected pretty easily up there. I think he could, actually.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think there's a requirement to be born in Israel.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

A lot of people in politics in Israel were not born in Israel. All right.

SPEAKER_04

This next thing I'm gonna say is not investment advice.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Next Friday. That's that's all you're gonna say? SpaceX IPO.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, right, right, right. Okay. I thought you were gonna go in a different direction because Bitcoin is keeps edging towards my buy number.

SPEAKER_04

Uh yeah, no, I'm I I'm looking at that as well. It says

SpaceX IPO Talk And Bitcoin Targets

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sixty one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, fifty eight is my buy number. If Bitcoin hits fifty eight, it's time to buy, not financial advice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

No, I'm looking at I I just got my one of my bonuses just got paid in and I'm looking at how much to uh uh put towards that IPO because I think it's gonna be a pump and dump. I agree. So I I think it's gonna explode after the IPO. Yeah, like I think it's gonna go from the 130 some odd dollar price it's gonna start out at. And my cell number is gonna be around 300, 350.

SPEAKER_03

I think it'll go from probably it'll it'll be almost immediately sold out. It's gonna shoot probably to over 500. And then in the course of the month, it'll probably go down to about 250.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, I'm gonna be conservative and sell probably around three through fifty. Yeah. And double my money. So that's okay.

SPEAKER_03

If you can get in the initial one, yeah. I can't it's way more buyers than there are stocks.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but I've already got an order in with like it's we'll see if it gets filled and what uh what price it gets filled in.

SPEAKER_03

Because I I'm not gonna be buying any for that exact reason. Like it's a I I've missed the boat. It's you gotta be in this part of pre-purchase.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but my buy order is from uh the initial offer price up to like 180.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so you'll get it at 180.

SPEAKER_04

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_03

So 180 to 360 is still fine. I'm buying through Fidelity, so they should have a pretty good chunk, dude. Yeah, but there's way more people that want that on day one than there are available stocks. Everybody I know is excited because they've already put an order in.

SPEAKER_04

What do you think the actual market cap is on SpaceX? Because I don't think it's 1.75 trillion.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know, dude. I haven't done the math. We'll find out the real numbers once the stock goes. But it's obviously gonna be the most valuable company in the world. Yes. Yeah. Which is about time because there's no way companies like Nvidia should be the most valuable.

SPEAKER_04

No, because they are part of the supply chain and there's so much value added in the data centers. Which, by the way, Grimes County just approved the uh SpaceX facility here in Grimes County. Oh, okay. Nice. So, yep, and they're offering them no taxes for 40 years.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it might be time for me to reapply at SpaceX. Maybe. It's uh I do it every year, once a year, and they always turn me down.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you know, this area isn't a bad area to be in. They're talking 750 permanent jobs at that facility. Nice. Very good. And Grimes County doesn't have any manufacturing right now.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so it's a huge boon to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you if you couple that with the Texas high speed rail, yeah. When what's the timeline on that? You've been talking about that for like two years. Well, so here's the thing it's a private corporation trying to do it. Most of it, they're already following. So between Dallas and Houston, they have most of the route that follows the north-south electric

Texas High-Speed Rail And Eminent Domain

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transmission corridor that is already a utility. Yeah. You know, it's already it's already there's right away already. Yes. Yeah. However, there's a portion between really just where they have to make the turn just north of Lake Livingston and to go south where they have to impact private land. And that's where this entire fight has been held up, is because eminent domain and should imminent domain be used for a private corporation? I don't believe so. I think they should just buy the people out with a hundred-year lease and do it. But they're trying to go the eminent domain route, and there have been lawsuits and lots of things.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Yep. Yeah, I tend to agree. I I think this is one of those areas where you're arguing public good versus private ownership. And I tend to side on the private ownership side, but I I do understand the public good. Like all the railroads that were built originally in the US were private. But they've all got eminent domain.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Well, we'll see what ends up happening. I again, I think they should just pay the people out and make the terms where people can't say no, right? Yeah. Maybe even raise the rail higher in those sections so that it doesn't really impact cattle or anything, right? And it's it would be nothing more than like an oil lease that all these ranches have on them already. Yeah. That sort of thing.

SPEAKER_03

Or maybe musk and drill uh underground.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03

Have a big old company. 200 mile long tunnel.

SPEAKER_04

I don't even think I think it's like 60 miles, is all that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, is that all it is?

SPEAKER_04

Oh well, there you go. Yeah. But regardless of the solution, I think there's a fair market way of solving this. Yeah. Right. But as soon as that happens, where at my property sits, College Station becomes the next suburb of not only Dallas.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Like it's a twin, it becomes a 20-minute commute to Houston and a 40-minute commute to Dallas.

SPEAKER_03

It's a place you can have a house and still work in in the city. You become Connecticut.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

Yep. Which would take my little old house here and make it a much more. If this house, if this house were sitting in Houston or Dallas, I it would be over a million-dollar house. Yep. So I'm looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And anyway, and then all the liberals invade. Well, and that's when it's a good one. When your town starts becoming another Dallas or Houston. And that's when I cash out and leave. I think that Musk is somewhat betting on that by putting this facility in Grimes County. Because he needs the workers. Could very well be, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, he has AM and the education base of AM, but you need experience too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, absolutely. So that is true.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, well, we've been talking a lot about my stories.

SPEAKER_03

What do you got? I don't have a whole lot, honestly. You know, I've been dealing with some of my dad's health issue stuff, and then been playing some more video games, which I think I told you. So there's three of you guys. You you're one of them that I got into Star Citizen, but you've kind of you've managed to avoid it successfully.

Star Citizen Spending And Gaming Addiction

SPEAKER_03

The other two guys are totally playing Bioshock, dude. Oh, is that what you're doing? Okay, good, good. We can talk about that in a little bit too. But the other two guys, hook, line, and sinker. Like, I wasn't really trying to get them into the game too much, but you know, I got him, brought him to the show, showed him around. And one guy is uh one of the bigger YouTubers for Elite Dangerous. And I've I've been telling him about this game for a while, and he's always been very apprehensive. So he finally got in. And dude, he's on it in the morning, he's on the East Coast. And then he's on in the afternoon. Then I see questions from him or clarifications about something, I'll usually answer him. And then the other day I walked by my computer about 11 p.m. my time, central time, right? So midnight east coast time. And I saw he was on, so I typed, hey, you still on? I still playing? He's like, Yeah, jump on. We'll go do some bounties. So we played till about 1 a.m. central, so about 2 a.m. his time. And he's been playing every single day. And the other guy that I got in, he you actually played a little bit with him in Grey Zone. He's the guy that got me into Grey Zone, so I owed him. So got him in the game. And his startership that he got lasted for about two days before he upgraded it to a $120 ship, which he kept for so he paid cash for it, he didn't game. Yeah. Kept that for about a week and wanted something bigger, so I actually sold him a $400 ship.

SPEAKER_04

How much did you sell it to him for?

SPEAKER_03

For $400.

SPEAKER_04

What was the ship worth?

SPEAKER_03

400.

SPEAKER_04

And didn't he just go buy the ship new? Ah, couldn't.

SPEAKER_03

Couldn't. Limited availability. Yeah. And so he he got that, got that up upgraded, and then he needed like more of a military type ship. So he bought one of those for 117 bucks, I think. Okay. And then he he used, he actually grinded quite a bit, got a bunch of in-game money, got another ship that he actually really wanted because it looks cool and it's it's actually useful. Like mid-size hauler kind of thing. But he already had this the C2, which is the $400 ship. And then today I pulled out a bigger hauling ship, one of the biggest in the game, which is $600. And so today he upgraded his $400 ship to a $600 ship.

SPEAKER_04

Jesus.

SPEAKER_03

And and then he he wants to buy another one that's not.

SPEAKER_04

Because his total investment in this short period of time is already thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_03

For this month, it's gonna be a bit shy of a grand. Yeah, probably I don't know, between six and nine hundred by the time the month rolls around to a full month.

SPEAKER_04

And for the record, that's my problem with the game because I will never fucking do that.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no. But the other guy hasn't spent a dime since he started. He's just been buying ships with in-game stuff. So these guys are they they both got totally sucked in. They're both playing every single day for like between four and twelve hours, depending on the day. And uh could handle that low of a frame rate for that long. The frame rates were getting this like 100 frames. So I think that part of it's fixed. Okay, they updated? Yeah, it's been updated. But both of those guys are playing way more than I expected. Because what I've I've done this before. I mean, you I think you were my like 13th or 14th person I've that I brought in. Yeah. And he was like the 14th, 15th, 16th, whatever. And I for most people, they go in there, they play for two, three, four hours. They did what you did, right? Play a little bit with me, play a little bit by yourself, and then just kind of putter up. These guys are on there before me and sometimes after me. So I'm I'm somewhat surprised and shocked. But also, which was hilarious, and this this most people won't even understand, but I'll say it for in case somebody does play both games. But at the same time, this morning I got an email or a Discord message from a guy that was a streamer playing Star Citizen that I used to play with like two years ago, who I gave him Elite Dangerous the same time I gave it to you, like a year ago, whatever that was. Yeah, about a year ago, whatever. And he just sent me a message saying, Hey dude, thanks a lot for this. I just installed it. I know you gave it to me a long time ago, but I just installed it, and I am having a blast. So thanks again for that gift. So, and this is a guy that used to be a you know pretty popular streamer for Stutter Citizen. So I've got two guys that I brought in from Elite. This is where I know both of them from Elite Dangerous. They both played thousands of hours in that game, and I got them into Star Citizen, and then I gave Elite to a guy that used to be in Star Citizen, never played Elite, that just got into Elite and is loving Elite. So I'm I'm like a cross-pollinating drug dealer here. Okay. I I I'm having a good time. I I like making people happy. I like bringing people joy. Well, I'm uh enjoying Bioshock. It's yeah, how far along are you? I I haven't played it for a long time, but I vaguely recall the storyline. I am about you know 15, 20 hours. All the racism in there and a misogyny.

SPEAKER_04

Well, hey, it's in line. Mm-hmm. By the way, did you see it's talking about streamers? Did you see Asmong Gold's latest really viral clip that's been going around X? I mean, there's like eight clips per day.

SPEAKER_03

Which one are you referring to?

SPEAKER_04

The one that has been like reposted every day.

SPEAKER_03

But doesn't tell me what's the contents? What's what happens in it?

SPEAKER_04

Talking about white people and violence. Oh no,

Platform Bias Claims And Stress Signs

SPEAKER_04

I haven't seen that. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03

He makes a point of oh, is that the one where you're talking about video games? How he gets hammered by YouTube whenever there's violence and it's black people, but never when it's white people. Is that the one?

SPEAKER_04

No, he's talking about colonialism and everything else.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay. No, I have I'll watch that one. I usually watch his stuff on YouTube, I don't watch it on X. But there's another one that he did where he talks about the the complete racism of YouTube, because if you take a video of black people fighting and you put it on YouTube, they will remove that video and then give you a warning for violent content. If you put up a video that is identical except the people that are fighting are white, it's fine. No warning, no removal of video. It's almost as if YouTube has a policy to minimize showing black people fighting. Almost as if. Allegedly. Pretty wild. But yeah, I'll check this one out. I like watching Asmond because he's you know, he's in your generation, not mine. Is he uh yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's 36.

SPEAKER_04

Well, he's younger than me then.

SPEAKER_03

It's still your generation.

SPEAKER_04

Here, I'm sending you the link. Okay, thanks. Yeah, I guess. I think there's a pretty big divide between elder and younger millennials. Dude, I'm gonna be 40 in a few days.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so oh my god, you're gonna be 40 and he's only three years younger. That's not younger, that's literally the same age.

SPEAKER_04

I am gonna be fucking 40.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Jesus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I thought you were 40 like three years ago. Waiting on the results of the MRI still, by the way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, let's do a DNA where we're at it. DNA, full panel, you know, everything. You did that. Did you do the full bio scan panel?

SPEAKER_04

No, they did they were looking at my lower back and pelvic area. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah. But hey, getting to 40 is that's uh that's that's success. You're winning. I back in the olden days, men didn't used to live till 40. Yeah, but this isn't the olden days. Yeah, well, the level of stress some people have is just like the olden days. This is true. You gotta take this is this is why people used to be. Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like multiple times per day would be ideal. Do they have those? Do they have a kit? Can you do a self-check on the cortisol kit? Not that I'm aware of, no. Is that not a thing? Because that would actually, I would be very curious for mine as well. Like how much does it shoot up when I'm getting hammered in the video game? Mm-hmm. Because that's not good either. I mean, then you gotta take a something that counters that. But all I know is that I was going gray very aggressively, right to the point of my divorce, and then my graying basically stopped or greatly slowed down to where there was less delta, less change in how gray my hair was for almost a decade afterwards. And then now, of course, I'm even more gray because I'm getting away up there in years, but like I was graying at a pace where I would have been probably within two years while I was married, where it took me ten years to get there at post-divorce, and I I believe, and maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that is greatly due to the amount of cortisol from stress. The the graying hair comes earlier when you have high stress. Yeah, agreed.

SPEAKER_04

So, what else do you want to talk about? Because the last thing I have is a product tip. I'm gonna steal John's.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Let's see. Let me let me take a look real quick, see if there's anything interesting to talk about. No, I think you know, between like watching all the Lego Wars drama and a little bit of the politics, that's really all I've been doing, mostly. So you sent me a body painting thing. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

I just I sent that to our group chat. Okay, okay. So I just got it in and I'm trying it today. It's gonna take a little bit to adjust to, but it's a wrist rest for your mouse that you you it's really resting your palm on there, so it's uh supporting

Ergonomics Gear And Pain Relief Products

SPEAKER_04

the back of your palm. But it is the Carpio 2.0. And um, it's a free-floating thing, it moves, it just glides behind you put your palm on it and it glides behind the mouse, and it's just a little bit of extra support.

SPEAKER_03

But I've seen the guy have one of those, I think. If the you sounds like the what you're describing, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it it's nice, it feels good. It really does. They're not expensive, they're just a little thing of Yeah, are you do you have the carpal tunnels? No, but I want to avoid it. So that's one of the things I look at on the ergonomics of my setup, which aren't always great. No. Like when I'm typing for long periods of time, I definitely move my keyboard and things like that. Um, but what I've noticed with gaming, getting back into gaming some, my wrist from the mouse, because throughout the workday, you know, I'm not using the mouse as much as I am when I'm gaming. Of course. It's just different, right? I've noticed that hand, the wrist getting more tired. So that's why I got this to try it. And so far I like it. So there you go.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I've had golfer's elbow for like a good three months, and it's slowly getting better. But it man, those things take forever to heal. If you don't know, golfer's elbow is just like tennis elbow, but on the other side of the elbow. It's on the inner side where tennis elbow is on the outer side.

SPEAKER_04

And can I make a recommendation for joint and muscle pain like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got for Mother's Day for Lindsay and my mom some of the Manuka Gold products. Okay. I thought you were gonna say like utter cream. No, it's the Manuka Gold, and they have some discount codes. I think Manuka honey, and then a bunch of other stuff. So, like the pain relief gel has the Manuka Gold honey, it has turmeric, black pepper, eucalyptus, wintergreen, bunch of other stuff, and CBD. And they have an Arnica version if you don't want the C B D. But it's good stuff, dude. Like all their products are really good. Both their ingestible honey supplement thing that they make to the lotion. Both my mom and Lindsay really liked it. That's a New Zealand, New Zealand thing. Well, no, these guys are out of Florida, they just make stuff out of Manuka, but yes. And Manuka has a lot of really good benefits to it as well. But anyway, it's good stuff. I think their promo code right now is like Atom 20 for 20% off for no agenda listeners.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Which we have a heavy overlap with. So there you go.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Huh. But try some of the Manuka Gold.

SPEAKER_03

Or MGO eleven twenty two. Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Honestly, the CBD by itself would also help.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but it's all the other stuff in there with it in that balm that just makes it really great. I've always liked honey. I like honey in particular that is hard to find in Texas. Well, if you like honey, you ought to get their Be Well honey and try it. I thought you were gonna say you should get some honey bees. No, I'm saying you should get their Be Well honey because that would be a really good supplement for you as a someone with diabetes.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Because honey isn't metabolized the same way as like raw sugar or anything else.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

It's got a lot longer half yeah, it's got a lot longer half-life.

SPEAKER_03

You know what the worst thing is, I think I mentioned this before fucking rice. It is amazing. Rice gets absorbed faster than table sugar, which is insane. It's insane. Yeah, it's absolutely insane. You know what you should test? It just breaks down every time I have sushi. It's like you know what you you know what you should test.

SPEAKER_04

White rice versus brown rice versus a boreal rice. I've not done that. I've done the brown white rice boreal or different.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I've done white, brown, and wild rice. Yeah. And the the white rice is instant, it is faster than sugar. The brown rice is definitely slower, but it's still fairly aggressively converted into sugar. Yeah. The the wild rice is absolutely the slowest, but it's not really rice. It's just kind of a relative of rice, but not really.

SPEAKER_04

That relative of rice has more than kin to a wheat grain, I agree.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's like a wild wheat kind of thing. But like old school wheat before it was, you know, transformed into the modern version by humans. Well, seriously, though, get some of that be well.

SPEAKER_04

And uh do that. They they're doing a gift with of a sample size of the relief gel with their website, Manuka Gold.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we should be getting paid for this.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, whatever. Anyway, it's great stuff. All their uh I've gotten all their products except the Arnica version of the relief gel because I don't mind CBD, but I like Arnica as well. Arnica is a great thing. I've used it for years, right? Have you ever used Arnica? Oh my god, for like a muscle ache and stuff like that, it is fantastic. Something else we should talk about real quick before we wrap up is the magnesium stuff you and I stumbled upon.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've I've doubled my intake to a thousand.

SPEAKER_04

Uh well, and I've changed my source of magnesium.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, okay, good.

SPEAKER_04

And uh the like I've sent that video to a bunch of people, including a friend of mine that has struggled with depression, has been on uh every fucking neurological drug you can imagine for a long time, finally decided to get off of it, and you know that they're still having some problems here and there, and it's like, well, hey, have you looked at this?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. This shit's expensive, man. 36 bucks for shipping for a little bottle.

SPEAKER_04

It it's uh it's the dude. Manuka honey is expensive.

SPEAKER_03

I'm buying it right now, but it's I'm just saying it it's definitely and did you use the discount code?

SPEAKER_04

Be well. Did you use the discount code?

SPEAKER_03

No. I didn't pay attention to you when you said Where's the Jew in you? Uh-huh. Yeah, you're you're more of a Jew in that sense than me, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_04

Uh-huh. Absolutely. I just don't have the same net worth.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh. So there we go. Ordered. 36 bucks. Yeah, I mean, use that in your tea instead of sugar. I don't use sugar. I use fake sugar.

SPEAKER_04

Well, try using this instead of fake sugar.

SPEAKER_03

That's it it it doesn't work that way. The you could do a lemon tea honey that is not really sweet, it's just sweet-ish, which works fine. But you cannot put enough honey to make it as sweet as sweet tea, which is the way that I do it with fake sugar. It's like you would literally need to put in probably seven or eight teaspoons of honey in there.

SPEAKER_04

I'm actually not a fan of honey in general. I'm trying this Be Well.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04

Um, uh I s the first time I tried it, I tried it in my coffee. Can't stand that. I prefer black coffee. Yeah. So I'm just taking a spoonful every day. But the reason why I can't stand honey, you want to this is a little apocryphal story, but okay. So my mom went on this kick of not you allowing me to use

Honey Tastes, Whiskey Notes, And Wrap-Up

SPEAKER_04

maple syrup on pancakes or waffles.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04

And I had to use honey. Sure. And that is not the same thing.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, it's not. I would prefer honey over maple syrup, honestly.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god. So for years as a kid, I had to eat my waffles and pancakes with honey instead of maple syrup.

SPEAKER_03

I just had some fried chicken today. Yep. Came with honey.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honey on a biscuit, great. Honey on chicken, especially a spicy chicken.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it is. It's a hot spicy chicken. And it came with uh, and they were generous with the honey. I mean, we're talking probably like two ounces of honey in a you know, a little container. Yep. For dipping.

SPEAKER_04

It was very good. I made some pork chops the other day. Yeah. Just some old school breadcrumbs and you know, fry some pork chops. Let me ask you this.

SPEAKER_03

Do you like molasses? Yeah. Do you like that flavor? Yes. I have the honey for you. Okay. Okay. This is the honey, this is my favorite honey. Uh so it's available via Amazon, but I could not, for the life of me, find it anywhere in Texas. Like, no stores carry it. Not even Whole Foods. What you want is buckwheat honey. Send me a link. I will. I'll send you the stuff, the link to what I buy. It is black. It is jet black in color. Literally the color of oil, crude oil. And very thick. And it tastes way less sweet and slightly bitter. It is very, very delicious. It still still has all the benefits of normal honey. Just doesn't have that kind of sweet honey taste. It's it's more of like what you get with molasses because you get a little bit of the burnt flavor from you know making it. And it's it's obviously it's not molasses, but it has it's kind of like if you describe, you know, a scotch, you would say things that don't actually aren't in there, but that remind you of that flavor. That's what I would say. This has a little bit of a smoky molasses kind of flavor, honey.

SPEAKER_04

Speaking of, a friend of mine just got back from Japan and brought me a bottle of whiskey. Oh, Japanese whiskey's awesome. Well, and I gotta say, this it's a little, it's a little sweeter than I would normally like, but the flavors are so complex and it's almost like a cherry slash cherry finish to it. It's Royal Suntree whiskey, and it is not super expensive, even here in the US, but it is good. And they don't put a defined year because they do a blend of young barrels and older barrels.

SPEAKER_03

They just try to keep the flavor profile the same every year.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but their barrel ages are somewhere between six and for the non specified years, it's between six and fifteen years, is what they're blending. Okay. And I usually like a single malt whiskey, but this is absolutely excellent, and it is the smoothest, non-harsh. It's just it's it's excellent. It's absolutely excellent. So I've added another bottle to the collection. Nice. But you're still supposed to give me yours.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. You know, you're getting you're getting my booze. I've told you that. Booze and your guns. Well, you're gonna wait longer than the guns in the booze. Uh-huh. Oh, man. Yes, you don't get my guns if you actually participate in my death. That's that's the waiver. Uh-huh. Okay, I'm going to send you the link. I just found it here. How do I get a link? Come on, Amazon.

SPEAKER_04

He's gonna make sure it's his his affiliation. I don't have one.

SPEAKER_03

I don't I told you I don't have an affiliate thing. It doesn't I totally don't. So I, in fact, I'm just gonna copy the long link. You can worry about pasting it into whatever. There you go. Use that. Not an affiliate link at all. Just a straight link to Amazon. This is the Russian Amazon site you get into, so don't worry about all the language stuff in there. Just click on the buy button. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, uh Descartes. Yeah. $19. Jesus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I just paid $35 for your honey. God damn. But I gave you a 20% off code that you use that would be. Which I didn't use. What? God damn. Okay, next one I'm definitely doing it that way.

SPEAKER_04

No, it's it's good stuff. I wouldn't tell you to get it if it wasn't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All right, man. Well, all right. We're done talking about food then, I think. I think so. Cool. All right. And uh, as usual, we appreciate people that are on a monthly pledge donation to us, whatever you want to call it. Absolutely. There we've got a few folks. We're always happy to see more. And I we know people drop out and new ones come in. But if you enjoy the show, if you think that you want to send us a message, you could do that totally for free. You don't need to send us any money. If you want to send us money, don't feel like you have to send us a message. You could do that without

Listener Support And Closing Goodbye

SPEAKER_03

a message, or you could combine the two.

SPEAKER_04

Yep. And you know what? My waiter at uh dinner tonight asked me what I was doing for the rest of the evening. I said I was coming to do this podcast. He said, Oh, really? What's it about? And so on. I told him it's just two good old boys having a conversation and said he was gonna look it up. So, man, if you're hearing this, there you go.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Well, and the guy that has been spending money like crazy on spaceships was listening in the first portion of this, too. There you go. So we're expanding our audience here, slowly but surely.

SPEAKER_04

Yep. Well, all right, Ben. We'll see you next week. Later.

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