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Gene and Ben Season 2026 Episode 170

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You can tell a lot about a week by what we can’t stop talking about. We start with real-world life stuff, then immediately get hijacked by the internet: a bizarre sci fi book cover, the comments section, and how “context” is doing a lot of work when marketing tries to sell fantasy, post-apocalyptic fiction, and everything adjacent. It’s funny, but it also says something about how online culture spreads and why screenshots spark arguments faster than facts. 

Then we shift into current events and policy, reacting to Trump’s speech and the broader fight over election security, mail-in ballots, voter rolls, and what “fix it going forward” actually means in practice. We don’t pretend to have perfect answers, but we do lay out what claims we’re hearing, why certain talking points catch fire, and where skepticism should be applied. 

The most actionable part might surprise you: we break down “Trump accounts” as an index-fund style savings plan for kids, why starting early matters, and how compounding could change the student loan and housing trajectory for a whole generation. After that, it’s a rapid tour through military readiness debates, Iran escalation and geopolitics, wildfire smoke and forest management, Cajun cooking with pickled pork, and the tech reality of local AI, Palantir, and why GPU prices feel unhinged. 

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Cold Symptoms And Family Updates

SPEAKER_00

Howdy, Ben, how are you today? Oh, Gene, I'm doing good. I'm doing good.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that's good, cuz I'm a little bit stuffed up. Got uh a little bit of a cold coming on.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, sorry to hear that, man.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I haven't had one for over a year. I think it's um directly tied to travel, so I was in a big long tube with a bunch of filthy strangers. It'll do it. How's your dad? Goddamn orgies. Anyway, what now? How's your dad? Oh, he's he's good-ish. Good news is we went to a different doctor who looks like he's gonna be able to do the eye surgery this coming week. So my sister's up there. Whereas the other one wasn't sure when he's gonna do it, so you know, it definitely put a date in place on the calendar that made my dad a lot happier.

SPEAKER_00

So speaking of orgies.

SPEAKER_04

Huh.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't know you were a furry gene. Furry? I'm not a furry. You were into furry.

SPEAKER_04

I'm more into reptiles than anything, man.

SPEAKER_00

Well, look at the link I just sent you. Okay, let's see here. Gene recommended a book, dropped it in one of our group chats.

SPEAKER_04

All right, let's see.

SPEAKER_00

In this book,

The Strange Book Cover Rabbit Hole

SPEAKER_00

I it I haven't read it, but I've read the comments on the Audible Python.

SPEAKER_04

Is it a free book?

SPEAKER_00

Is it? It's got yes, like different species of human have split off. Like there's a bunch of different things. Context is important. Everything is context is important.

SPEAKER_02

You're you know, you're sitting out this book, okay. This is a thing.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. I mean, they're all naked chicks, but yeah, so context important. So if you ever posting it, yeah. I didn't see that where.

SPEAKER_00

The green one with the horns. Oh.

SPEAKER_04

A you're always posting.

SPEAKER_00

And this is off the right web page, by the way.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. A variety of well, you died, dove deep a lot more than I did into.

SPEAKER_02

I did because I read the comments. I'm like, what the hell is James?

SPEAKER_04

Is a message on Audible saying, hey, bunch of uh sci-fi and fantasy books for sale. Like, all right, let me take a look, see what's there. So I start scrolling, and then there's like literally a book called what is it called? Haven't that's the book name? Haven?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Haven and the it's the complete series, a post-apocalyptic min's.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, oh, that's what it was. So, so what I see is a description about post-apocalyptic something or other, and the cover has nudes on it, and only chicks, no dudes. And so I I take a screenshot, I posted in our group, Ben sees it. And you posted that you were gonna put it in the library, yeah. Yeah, I said I'll put it in the library. So I literally posted it to tease Ben because this is the kind of shit that he really gets into. No, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you kidding? If it's got a big chested female nude, you're right there. And and yes, don't lie furry. Don't lie, don't lie. Well, they're not all furry looking. Well, most of them actually look like people. I guess there's a couple that look like cats. But then again, so do most YouTubers these days. So, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, this is not a myth. And I did not buy it. I it was a joke.

SPEAKER_04

The whole thing was meant to yank your chain, which it clearly did, because you were like, hell yeah. And then apparently you were so interested in it, you did something I didn't do, which is go to the authors page and start reading about this apocalyptic society of catwomen.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's it's definitely from the outside looking in. I don't know why she calls it a men's adventure. It totally looks like it's a chick sex book for me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's the it's typical female porn disguised as fantasy. Remember that that book that was making the rounds a while ago that everybody was talking about? Be honest, you do the reptile chick. I don't know, I don't see her. Oh, the green one? No, no, she got a weird-looking nose, man. I've seen much better reptile-looking chicks before. Oh, God. But there's there, there's there was that book about some like stud farm thing, and then the main character in the book was this woman who was a college student and had to pay bills, and so she ends up going and working this you know, milk farm or whatever the hell it was called, which where these half men, half-bulls go there to get drained, if you know what I'm talking about. And I don't know what they did with the end product, but they were collecting it, and it's like it was the number one women's romance novel book.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, women are into weird shit, man. Guys are so much simpler. I mean, apparently you are too. You're the one posting it in our group chat.

SPEAKER_04

I'm posting it for the reaction that it got, which is from you. Likely see. Nobody else. Nobody else jumped out. You're like, hell yeah. Uh huh. Again, I didn't buy it, I didn't look at it after taking the screenshot. You're the one that actually went digging into it, wanting to quote, read, unquote, the book.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, well, I like post-apocalyptic fiction.

SPEAKER_04

I know you do. That's why I posted it because I knew that would get you pulled in. And then the catwomen apparently got you to stay long enough to dig into it deeper.

SPEAKER_00

No, but this author is obviously very much.

SPEAKER_04

She's got a book called Tom Boy Supremacy.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Another one called Haremlit.

SPEAKER_01

And she's got a bunch. Um, but you know, like After Dark. Down the rabbit hole, um, you know, a warm place, and yeah. It's all monster, you know, it's all Yeah, it's it's chick swift on a theme.

SPEAKER_04

About monsters and chicks, kind of thing. And cat chicks. Who doesn't want a cat chick though? She's got a she's got it.

SPEAKER_00

She's got a she's got a book called Goblin Girls Do It Better. Like again, this you can't make this shit up way deeper in this.

SPEAKER_01

This is this is rule 34 of the internet, right? For whatever kind of kink you think it would never be out there, there's porn far somewhere by someone.

SPEAKER_04

And and there's probably a couple of Reddit groups about this. There always is. There's a pro-Reddit group, and then there's another Reddit group that thinks that this book demeans furries and they're all against it. Yeah, right. That that's that's another internet rule. Because for every pro-something group on Reddit, there's a much smaller subgroup that categorically hates the bigger group, but not for the reasons you think. You remember the story of what's his face? What was the guy's name? The story of the dude that looked like he was a giant, even though he's a normal person, the Lilliputins. Gulliver. Gulliver's travel. Yeah, Gulliver and the Lillipusians. And you remember there were two Lillipusian tribes, and their big argument for hundreds of years was which side of the egg do you crack first? The pointy end or the round end? Well, obviously it's the round end, everybody knows that.

SPEAKER_01

It's a riff on, you know, Dr. Seuss did a riff on that with the uh green butter battle, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. Well, this was out a little earlier, but yeah. It's uh I think making fun of European politics is what it was. So we had a long ass week, meaning lots of stuff going on.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Where do you want to start? Not to mention travel for me, but and we decided to do the podcast a day late so that we could see what Trump had to say last night.

SPEAKER_04

I always think it's funny when you mention stuff like that because no one cares. They like they'll download it when it gets downloaded. They're not paying attention to oh didn't come out on the Sunday. I wonder why. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, where do you want to start?

SPEAKER_04

Let's see. Where do we want to so well? Let's start with Trump. I mean, that's the reason we delayed, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I've been looking through some of the evidence and some of the stuff that they put out, and a lot of it's redacted. But I will say this if I'm Mike Lindell, based off of what this is in the CIA report about Venezuela and Dominion, I'm suing for dem uh defamation.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Like

Trump Speech And Election Integrity Claims

SPEAKER_04

I would totally agree.

SPEAKER_01

The CIA says it happened, right? Exactly the way he has talked about it being possible to have happened. Yep. One thing I liked is Trump did not relitigate the election. But he was talking about how we have to make this secure going forward. They're going to pull federal funding from any state that doesn't comply.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I I personally think they should have a lot of people. We'll see. As a punishment to the US one.

SPEAKER_01

I think the reaction to that would be not good.

SPEAKER_04

It would be we told you, we told you. I also think that the Rubio needs to get elected once and just become our next Caesar. I think the US has had a little bit of fun for 250 years with this republic bullshit. But it's it's time we face reality and and recognize that ultimately an empire is the better form of government.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but empires fall.

SPEAKER_04

And we need an emperor. Sure, but give it a thousand years, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Most emperor most empires most when a country enters its empire phase, it usually only lasts 250.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that's because they've been doing it wrong. We we could do it better. I'm I'm all for an empire. I I think that's gonna be my new stumping point to be on.

SPEAKER_01

Is that Did you watch Trump's speech? Yeah, I did. Yeah. Why aren't we at war with China right now? It was quite pointed towards China, wasn't it? It was in calling out how they directly manipulated stuff. Evidence of them creating fake driver's licenses for fake registrations and everything else.

SPEAKER_04

But here there's a lot of stuff that goes kind of unsaid too, because they also create a ton of real driver's licenses because we've outsourced every goddamn thing in this country. Okay. So for a lot of states, that's where they get their driver's licenses.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe card stock, but they're printed locally.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, they're literally printing them out there, man. It it's all they're doing locally is putting the person's name on. They're printing the full laminated, hologrammed shit in China. Yeah. And all they're adding is the name of the person. And the barcode. And the barcode, yeah, exactly. So it it's it's a little sad, but I if I was China right now, I would be peeved at Trump, for sure. Because he certainly sees okay, I need to move this image of like naked animals out of here, because right in front of my browser. Bastard made me open it here. Okay, let me close that up. There we go.

SPEAKER_00

That's fine. You are now on a list, did you hear?

SPEAKER_04

Uh-huh. Looked at it for 22 minutes. Exactly. Anyway, so I I think that there's a lot of what Trump, I mean, nothing was earth-shattering. Almost everything he said for any of us that have been a little bit, even just a tiny bit of a conspiracy theorist, we're kind of nodding our head going, told you so. Told you so.

SPEAKER_01

So I don't it it it it really is a lot of what we've been saying on you know deep state and everything. Not just that, and the deep state keeping this information down, but the numbers of illegals that they've found on the voter rolls, and they've only gone through four states so far.

SPEAKER_04

Um well again, if you look at the stats, the voting numbers from the last four elections, you will see that Democrat numbers three elections ago were the same as they were two elections ago, as the same as they were this election. But for Joe Biden, there were about 20% more Democrats that bothered voting somehow magically.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and Trump is the only incumbent president to get more votes in his re-election bid and lose.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. More and lose.

SPEAKER_01

Do we really think Biden got more votes? More votes than Barack Obama.

SPEAKER_04

It's literally impossible. People came out to vote for Obama that are centrist and just never bother voting for anything. And they came out just because they want to be able to tell their kids, like 30 years from now, yeah, I remember voting for the first black president. You know, just because I guess if you're a centrist, you think that's a good thing. I happen to think that's a bad thing, but you know, some people think that's a good thing. So I uh I wasn't surprised by anything in that speech. It was I guess it's nice to hear confirmation of that stuff, but it's not anything that surprised me.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know, a lot of people are pissed that well, where are the arrests? Well, yeah, he literally said they're they're pursuing that. Yeah, they should. And you know, they're they're they have to follow our judicial system, and it's gonna take a while, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

I I think And have you noticed all the Democrat talking points are just calling Trump a loser?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yeah, they they have no refert refutation of it.

SPEAKER_04

There's like it's funny because they're all saying the same thing, which means it there's a document that was shared amongst all of them. But also none of them are actually pointing to anything to say why he's a loser. They just know that's a word that triggers him. Call Trump a loser, he'll be triggered. It's it's crazy. I I think by all rights, the Democrats should never win another election, and of course, if we do what I propose and become an actual empire, then that won't matter because they won't. But even if we stay a dumb republic, I I think it would take an act of sheer stupidity for the Democrats to actually ever win again.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I here's the thing. When you see when you go from Barack Obama's economy to Trump's economy minus COVID, back to Biden's economy and the anemic recovery that we saw, and then now the recovery that we're seeing with Trump. I mean, did you see the inflation number?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Holy crap. We are seeing lots of really good things. You know, have we talked about the Trump accounts?

SPEAKER_04

No. What uh what are what are you referring to?

SPEAKER_01

So you haven't heard anything about the Trump accounts?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_01

So this is a big deal, and I don't think people realize how much of a big dis deal this is, especially for lower and middle class people.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you're talking about the kid thing?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, okay. Well, I mean, Trump account doesn't really sound descriptive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the he calls everything Trump, dude.

SPEAKER_01

It's yeah, well, Trump medical. Trump drugs. Trump Trump Rx. Yeah. Uh-huh. So I really think this ought to replace, I really think this ought to replace Social Security. Um, I think everyone should be allowed to have a Trump account. But you can contribute

Trump Accounts And Kids Wealth Building

SPEAKER_01

up to five grand a year. I would make that unlimited for your kid. And it's it's an index fund, right? Yep. So, like my daughter, if I catch her up, so max out this year, because I also have savings accounts for them, but this is gonna have a better return. Max out hers this year and my son's, and then just max them out every year. If she cashed it out at 18, she'd have $200,000. Hmm. It's pretty good. If she cashed it out at I'll pay for a year of college. If she cashed it out at $65,000, she'd have $3.8 million.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, and now we're talking. So that's with no additional deposits.

SPEAKER_01

After $18,000, correct.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. That I'd say that's probably a no-brainer then to do that.

SPEAKER_01

And you have Elon Musk has donated hundred, like $300 million worth of SpaceX shares to the fund. Michael Dell and his wife have donated donated like $6.8 billion to the fund. You've got a lot of charities and other people coming in and doing this. So I I think it's tremendous. I think it's a great way to save for your kids' future. And you know, they can't free for them when they take it out.

SPEAKER_04

How about for you? For putting it on that should be tax-free for you as well.

SPEAKER_01

It's post-tax for me.

SPEAKER_04

Could be tax-free on both ends.

SPEAKER_01

Eh, well, it's the government. But here's the deal. One, this is going to drive a lot of investment into the stock market that of people who normally would not be investing. Yep. Number two, this could eliminate student loans for these kids that have these accounts that are at all well funded. Number three, any kid who is born during this administration is gonna get a thousand dollars as money into that account. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah, like a I think it's a good plan all the way around. There's like not really a downside, although I would make it tax-free on both ends to encourage the use of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but it it's to me, it's a tremendous thing. I don't think people are educated enough on it. And yeah, you could open up money market accounts and manage it yourself, but if you're the type of person who A has the money to do that, yeah, then you are, you know, I have a money market account for myself. But this is you can probably beat this index fund, but man, I don't know. You know, it's it's just a simple way of doing it, it's an easy way to protect the money for them. So you go through a divorce or whatever, there's no argument over who gets that money. It's an accountant there, and it's the case. You're not in control of it. No one can take it out once it's put in until they're 18. But they can keep it in there and keep growing it if they want to. So that can be part of their retirement, or they can take it out and buy a house, or start a business, or go to school. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's uh I I think it's a win-win in every every way.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's huge for the stock market. Because I think that and here's the thing it's not just the parents that can contribute, charities can, grandparents can, so on and so forth.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. Oh, because it's well, I guess that makes sense. That's why it's post tax. So that makes sense. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I like it. It's uh a good program.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, another i i I I I I just I I when I started looking into it, I I really kind of got excited about it because I think this is one of the ways you you you break what the younger millennials in Gen Z have gone through with the housing market and everything else, because you're establishing them with money right out the gate.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. But then you gotta make a choice on what you use it for.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, you could you could open up a Roth IRA for your kid, right?

SPEAKER_01

You can, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And just start funding it on their behalf and right.

SPEAKER_01

Again, this is this is basically that, and it's just tied to an index fund. But, you know. And again, a Roth IRA is gonna be in your name, not theirs. So there's so there's some nuanced differences. Can you not open one for a kid? I don't believe so. Because they're not earning money.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I mean, in a lot of families, the kids are paid. Well, anyway. I think there's what is it, like twelve thousand dollars a year limit or something like that.

SPEAKER_01

And there's an age threshold that they have to reach.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Anyway, I I think Oh, that's old enough to go work in the mine.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think this should replace Social Security. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know? And if I if my parents didn't start a Trump account for me when I was a kid, you know, when I turn 18, let me start one and decide what I'm going to put in there for that retirement.

SPEAKER_04

Well, make that a standard thing for everybody, and then for the citizens, then the government puts additional funds in there when you actually go through the trouble of becoming a citizen.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, or even cut it over so that there's a there's still a take the Social Security payroll tax and convert it into individual accounts or individual people so that me as a contributor who's you know paying way more into Social Security than I'll ever see out of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Although you never know. You might stop working tomorrow and then never pay a dime and then you still get the max.

SPEAKER_01

I guess, maybe.

SPEAKER_04

Not encouraging you to stop working and go play video games full time or anything.

SPEAKER_01

I have not had time to play video games lately.

SPEAKER_04

Notice that.

SPEAKER_01

Although I did uh play some Quake 3 the other day. Oh, really? That's funny. Yeah. Just a nostalgic thing for me. That was that was high school for me. In fact, in our we had a Cisco class, we had a CCNA class that was a zero hour class that you could get into. And what my teacher always used to do is on Fridays, because we had a zero hour, uh so we had two hours a day of this zero hour, and then the last class of the day. Nice. And on Fridays, we would do we'd build out a lab, uh, you know, we'd do a lab, and in the intervening time, Mr. Salisbury would go in there and break it somehow. And

Quake Nostalgia And Networking Class Stories

SPEAKER_01

we had to work as a team to figure out troubleshoot and fix the network. And as soon as we could, we could start gaming and we could game throughout the rest of the hour. So it was always a race to see, okay, what did he screw up, right? Yep. So it's just like real life. So you could maximize your land time. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

I was a good teacher.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And I mean, we're talking, you know, 2002, 2003. You know, when I got my C CNA, I got my C first C CNA before I graduated high school. Yeah, that's and I IPX was still on the C CNA when I took it. Yep. Anyway, more Trump wins. Yeah. Soldiers over 30 getting tested for testosterone.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'm very curious to see what the results are. And by the way, I sent a picture, I so I posted a picture of Marcus Strubius in in his Emperor's Garb Imperator in in our chat. And then I posted a picture of Petrus Hexethus wearing the Roman Legion commander's garb.

SPEAKER_01

There you go.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I dig it. But he turned out really good. He'd have he's got a face that's made for being a commander in a military Roman unit.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I think I think there's a lot of potenti so I think Pete Heggseth has done really well as Secretary of War.

Pentagon Shakeups And Low T Testing

SPEAKER_01

I don't think there's any arguing that. But you know, I I can see if Rubio or Vance were to win, they would have him continue. I don't think they'd change it up. I think you'd see a lot of the same cabinet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I think so. I talked to a couple of my friends at the Pentagon, and it's interesting. So the the feedback on him is that the the troops love him. The generals hate him. Because he is he is micromanaging and he's interfering.

SPEAKER_01

And that's not a bad thing.

SPEAKER_04

I know, it's kind of my take. I think we've been top heavy for quite a while in the US. There's too many, for sure, too many generals, but even too many colonels out there. And so we're we're in a situation where they're they all have to be segmented to give each of them something to do. And so I think to a lot of them, when he makes these broad sweeping generations, or he says, nah, these helicopters flying over the beach were just fine. I think a lot of butthurt generals are, you know, or a lot of generals get butthurt as a result of that. Well, you know, fuck them. It's undermining their authorite.

unknown

Again.

SPEAKER_04

They're lifers. So as far as they're concerned, he's coming in and fucking with stuff that he has no business fucking with.

SPEAKER_01

I thought he re-uped. Was he only four years?

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, no. It's uh I I mean for the administration in this role.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, gotcha. Yeah. No, I think he was in for eight or twelve or even.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Uh all I know is the in the enlisted guys that I know that are, you know, kids and friends and stuff like that are absolutely fucking thrilled.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Yeah, because he he basically he is the the same character that they've played in video games or that that's commanding them on what to do in video games their whole lives. You know? It's like there's always that guy that's like you know, get out of bed and do push-ups, and I'm gonna do twice as many as you, Maggots, kind of guy. Yep. In uh in games, which you kind of don't usually find in real life, except now you do. And uh so the real question's gonna be okay, so what if they find that like 30% of the soldiers over 30 have low T. Are they going to force the testosterone on them just like they did the COVID vaccine?

SPEAKER_01

No, they they've already addressed that.

SPEAKER_04

So they've said they're gonna offer uh Alright, so it'll be available, but not forced, and they'll just fire the ones that don't take it. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no. What they what they've said is to be in a combat role, you have to have normal testosterone.

SPEAKER_04

So they're gonna treat it as a a disqualifying disease. A disability, yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, disability.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so you'll be rolled out. Oh, that's gonna take a lot of generals out.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think it'll roll out a lot, but it'll put a lot of people into non-combat roles.

SPEAKER_04

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Changing bench sheets, that kind of thing.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. While we're on the military, holy crap, have we been hitting Iran?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, thank God, man. I I've been waiting for this for 200 days now.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Trump offered them fucking everything, knowing that they weren't gonna be able to do it and keep it.

SPEAKER_04

I just don't understand why we had to wait as long. I wish we would have done this like 150 days ago.

SPEAKER_01

Because not everybody has your and I's sensibility. That's true.

SPEAKER_04

Story there. But so I'm I'm better late than never. I'm I'm happy about what's going on, obviously. I think that this is something that needs to happen and it will secure him an absolute historical achievement. Like, you know, like FDR kind of level of notoriety.

SPEAKER_01

The other thing that I think's interesting is this affect how this

Iran Strikes And Global Power Math

SPEAKER_01

affects China.

SPEAKER_04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And Russia. It actually affects Russia fairly positively, but well, I mean, they're a partner, they're a major partner for Russia, both in terms of buying and selling. They're also the guys that Russia used for dirty jobs. I mean, Russia losing Iran would be pretty bad for Russia.

SPEAKER_01

Why?

SPEAKER_04

That's like us losing the UK. Because elections, you know, change something and all of a sudden they're not on our side. Well, yeah, okay. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. But you know what I mean? It's kind of like that that is one of the BRICS countries, it's one of the ports that Russia utilizes for shipping. It's a the country on the opposite side of the Black Sea. It's like there's a lot of connection to Iran from Russia. And when Iran pre-1979 was all super friendly with the US, that was a problem for Russia. So remember, the the real revolution that happened in Iran, much like the real revolution that happened in the old Russia that turned it into USSR, was actually a green-red revolution. It had more people that were socialist sympathetic in Iran trying to overthrow the Shah. And then they were joined by the ultra-religious zealots who were trying to overthrow the Shah for a different reason. And then they managed to do it, and then of course captured the US embassy and held the personnel there like the barbarians that they are. And and shortly after the success of that revolution, the the religious faction quickly dispatched all of the socialist faction, which, you know, kind of happened in the Soviet revolution as well, where the more moderate group was quickly dispatched by the less moderate group, but only after the revolution, because they needed them to make the revolution happen. And so you you know you had still these sympathetic ties, because it's always like the enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of theory. So when Iran became unfriendly to the US, naturally Russia extended, or Soviet Union back in the day, extended their hands, started establishing relationships, doing trade, doing technological deals, and and it's still to some extent continuing, you know, the same reason that Russia was on the opposite side of the Syria battles that we had. Because Syria was another port for Russia, they'd had friendly relations, and losing Syria to a jihadist regime in that case was something Russia didn't want. But now we're trying to get rid of a jihadist regime in Iran, but that's something Russia does want. Because it's not like they don't care, much like we don't, frankly, care whether it's a jihadist regime, because that's who we installed in Syria to run it now. We don't care what people do to their own populations, we care what people do abroad. And we want to make sure that we have an advantage in that relationship. So taking Syria away from Russia, and then now, hopefully, inshallah, taking away Iran from Russia is going to further weaken Russia, and and weakening Russia also weakens China.

SPEAKER_01

I really still think there's a chance for an American Russo alliance against.

SPEAKER_04

I think it'd be cool. I just think that the current path does not lead to that. I think that the current path is very much, you know, keep pushing Russia to be more irrelevant and really turn them into somebody that's selling raw materials, kind of like Africa. And unfortunately, with what's been happening in Ukraine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's the plan. And and I think with what the way that Russia has been playing the Ukraine war, where it's taken them four years and they're not making any advances anymore. I think that that was a misplay, and unfortunately, it kind of walked right into what people like the recently deceased deceased Lindsey Graham were all hoping for, which is just without having a single American soldier officially die, uh-huh, turn Russia into a gas station. And I hate to say it, but I think that we're closer to his vision than we've ever been.

SPEAKER_01

So do you are do you are you ready to talk about Graham?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's why you switched topics.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So I do not get this conspiracy theories going around. Which one? Uh Graham was blown up by the Russians at a drone factory in Kiev.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I thought it was the Jews.

SPEAKER_01

No, this times it's the Russians. But like his dad died of a massive heart attack. Yeah. Yeah. The man was a known lush and other things. Yeah, I I always thought he'd die from AIDS. I buy massive heart attack.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. No, he's a big deal. Yeah, I would buy a stroke or a heart attack. I would buy any natural type disease like that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the the autopsy's saying that his Aura ruptured.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I read that. Yeah. Yeah. No, it seems reason.

Lindsey Graham Death Rumors And Nepotism

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I don't know, but I don't really see a reason to doubt that.

SPEAKER_01

I'm really not sure how I feel about Trump endorsing his sister.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I I'm very sure. What the fuck? That is retarded. I mean, I'm all for becoming an empire, but I'm not for anybody's wife taking over their spot, including Erica Kirk, but not because I think there's a conspiracy there. I just don't like the concept of, oh, the dude died, let's bring his wife in. That's a bullshit policy. That should never happen.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's his sister, but yes.

SPEAKER_04

It doesn't matter. Wife, sister, whatever. Okay. He had a husband, but whatever. It's it's still wrong. Yeah, they definitely had something. It's still it's just it's stupid. It's it's the same objection that I had to Hillary running for for office.

SPEAKER_01

Right, but you you agree with me that it's most likely that he just died of natural causes.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, most likely, unless somebody comes up with something credible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I mean, if he would have died of some weird ass ailment that deformed him, then I'd say, yeah, it's probably Russia. Because they they still certainly have all the chemicals to do shit like that.

SPEAKER_01

But I don't know of a chemical that just makes you have a oh yeah, there's the record that the CIA in the 70s, you know, would was known for heart attacks? Uh yeah, the heart basically a heart attack gun. Well, then Trump probably killed him.

SPEAKER_04

You know, there you go.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Lindsay had been pretty reliable for Trump for a while.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he no, I think, and which is why he's promoting his sister now. Which is idiotic as all hell.

SPEAKER_01

We'll see.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I mean, if I lived there, I would make a big fuss about it. Like, this is not how you select politicians. Well, the governor selected.

SPEAKER_01

Hold on. The the governor selected her to be the interim, and she's gonna have to go through an election.

SPEAKER_04

Which is stupid. The governor's an idiot, too. It's South Carolina politics, dude. Yeah, I I just I don't like family businesses.

SPEAKER_01

I agree.

SPEAKER_04

Too much nepotism. I don't even like Rand Paul being in there, you know, because he's got the last name. Paul. Like, his dad's been out of there long enough now, but when he first popped up on the scene, it's like elected in a totally different state. He did, but I also didn't like Bush being both in Florida and Texas. I just don't like family politics. Never been a fan of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I it feels dirty. Even if it's not, it just feels dirty. Have I told the story about my grandpa and Dr. Paul?

SPEAKER_04

You've told me, but I don't think you've told on the show.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so my grandfather was mayor of Crystal Beach, and the Pauls lived over in Surfside, which isn't too far away. It's on the other side of Galveston, and they knew each other. And my my grandpa was it really into politics, and you know, Ron, you really ought to run. He was one of the guys that encouraged him to run. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And he was what kind of doctor?

SPEAKER_01

He was uh OBGYN.

SPEAKER_04

Was he really?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's funny. That is and his son's an ophthalmologist.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's the laziest type of doctor. According to an ophthalmologist YouTuber that I watch. Speaking of ophthalmology is where you go to be a doctor if you don't like going to work before 9 a.m.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Speaking of, I've got two specialist appointments next week.

SPEAKER_04

Nice. I've got a couple of myself.

SPEAKER_01

Yay.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I I had one today. I I went to see a what do you call them? The it's like a diabetes specialist person endochronologist. So which is exactly what I predicted happened. They looked at all my meds and then changed every one of them. Fun. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, okay. I mean, I'm okay with it. I don't care. The only thing I told them is that there's a couple that I'd already bought a few months ahead that I'm probably gonna just use up before I switched. But otherwise, I'm I'm fine with switching them. I don't really, I'm not selling any one of them. But it it is kind of funny how I think most doctors have they feel like like they have to change what the previous dude did to look legitimate.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

Diabetes Med Changes And Insulin Pumps

SPEAKER_04

Because if you go there and they go, okay, well that's all this all looks fine. It's gonna be like, well, what the hell did you do? Nothing. Why did I bother going to a specialist if the specialist doesn't change anything? So they all tend to change stuff. The only thing is I'm gonna look at the cost of all these drugs, because obviously I don't want to go from a cheap drug to an expensive drug. Probably stick with a cheap one if it's a good one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but if it's more effective or yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

If it's more effective, for sure, for sure. But also said that if I wanted to, uh, we could probably do an uh insulin pump. I'm surprised you don't already have one. I'm not sure I want one. But you know, at least it's an option out there.

SPEAKER_01

Every diabetic, every diabetic I've known that has them likes it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because it's just new. It's convenient, it just takes care of it for you, right? Because it's monitoring and then adjusting the pump based on the what it's sensing. So it it it kind of simulates your natural body system in that regard. It's got a biofeedback loop. I just don't know. What?

SPEAKER_01

Literally a PNID loop.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I just don't know that I like something mechanical being plugged into me 24-7.

SPEAKER_01

You don't want to be a cyborg gene.

SPEAKER_04

Uh no, not particularly. I mean, I but I'd be much more in favor like transferring my brain to an Android and just getting a new body than than being a cyborg. It's that biomechanical interpretation.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sure Elon is working on it.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I'm sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, with the with the X robots and then the uh you know the Neuralink.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, the Neuralink now controls the robots. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_01

Science fiction is no longer fiction. I think he's gonna get to the point where you can transfer, not just control. That would be awesome, dude.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I and I I can see him pushing to get that before he dies, so that's yeah, so he can do it exactly. And then be patient number one.

SPEAKER_04

If you don't have the money, then transfer you into a cab, so you'll just drive other people around making money that way after you're dead. Which which is you know, right out of the Bobverse.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Oh, the Bob that's such a I need to see if he's released any new books.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't see any more in that when I read the series. I just saw the ones that are from a while ago.

SPEAKER_01

Did you see the Florida congressional candidate that got arrested? Remind me. So this guy, William Upham, a former Marine running for Congress in Florida, yeah. Said he, meaning the president, is the enemy and must be killed. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_04

How would you say shit like that when you're running for office?

SPEAKER_01

Uh Don't know, but Jackson County sheriff arrested him. Good.

SPEAKER_04

That's insane.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And it'd be a pretty open shut case because he's on video saying it.

SPEAKER_04

That's insanity. And that's crazy. You know, I I just say that maybe it's time to nuke Ukraine and fucking X Bags gives me a timeout. Like what? Lots of people are thinking it. I'm just saying it. That's all. Yeah, well. He's gonna have a timeout. He'll have a real timeout,

Candidate Threats And Real Consequences

SPEAKER_04

that's for sure. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You know, you you don't say that while you're in the country that that guy is running.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, agreed. That's crazy. So New Jersey is now a free state once again.

SPEAKER_04

Well, they're getting there. They're they're taking the right step. Well, the courts are taking the right steps to get them there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So you want to tell the people what we're talking about? Sets up the Supreme Court case that they're already setting to hear. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So basically, I think this particular court decided they want to be in the book.

SPEAKER_01

Ahead of the Supreme Court.

SPEAKER_04

Because clearly now the Supreme Court is going to reference them along with the rationale for why, and that will become the new standard. You can't ban particular weapons.

SPEAKER_01

Or features of weapons.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. If if it's if it's available readily, you can't ban it by the state-by-state level.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and this even goes down to the NFA, dude.

SPEAKER_04

I think so.

SPEAKER_01

Did you see the ATF's numbers on suppressors? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I how is that not in common use?

SPEAKER_04

And I

New Jersey Gun Ruling And Suppressors

SPEAKER_04

think that was what the uh the guys that were suing him originally were talking about. That, you know, when you make the price zero, whether they want it or not, it'll become a common use item. And I think it's it's happened.

SPEAKER_01

As it becomes common use, then can't be in the NFA. Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Which I think the NFA obviously needs to just be shut down, but we don't have any balls in the politicians that are out there. But I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Trump's speech, you know, I don't know. We'll see.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I mean, if we have a bunch of politicians that end up getting heart attacks and then their sisters get all nominated, and then Trump is like telling them what to vote for. I guess that's a strategy. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, Trump also just won in court, federal court, on upholding his executive order to the post office about mailing ballots.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, which is good because the I can't believe he didn't win the citizenship one. That was just insane. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Amy compared to it. Did you see the congressional testimony she gave about her son having to see at nine years old that her his mom had a bulletproof vest and she had to explain to a nine-year-old what a bulletproof vest was? What the fuck is this kid not watching violent movies?

SPEAKER_04

The kid's probably playing video games where he's shooting everything up.

SPEAKER_00

He knows what a fucking bullet.

SPEAKER_04

Obviously. I knew what a bulletproof vest was at all. Dude, I'm telling you, she's like she is a Catholic liberal. That was so stupid to put her up for that position. This is this is a person who's basically a liberal in all their tenants, but pro-life and religious. There's tons of them. And these these liberal Catholics, they all vote the same way, and it's generally not for conservatives. So this is not at all surprised. This was a Trump mistake, said it when it was happening, still did it, didn't listen to me for some reason. Yes, with your direct line to Well, I mean, I posted to him on the Blue Sky. I can't imagine he didn't see that. Um Yeah. No, it it's it's unfortunate, but I think just becoming an empire should fix this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well we've got a lot of stuff to fix at home, too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we do. You know, we'll have free bread and we'll have women's basketball, which is all of a sudden becoming a very interesting game to watch.

SPEAKER_01

Well, why is that?

SPEAKER_04

Because it's got fighting in it, and chicks fighting is one of the cool things to watch.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, you're gonna have to enlighten me.

SPEAKER_02

I know nothing about the game.

SPEAKER_04

What is what's her name and the other girl? No. The problem is I'm still not like 100% on their names, but there's basically two chicks. One of them is a brunette white chick. They're all tall, right? But they're both kind of cute. You wouldn't like them because they're kind of small breasted, as you would expect athletes to be.

SPEAKER_01

But one of them

Women’s Basketball Drama And Sponsorship Money

SPEAKER_01

is You know, I dated a basketball player in high school.

SPEAKER_04

I don't need to know about your gay relationships at all. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01

But uh my uh girl I dated in my high school sweetheart that I almost didn't go to AM for, Marcy. She couldn't ask me to stay, and I wouldn't stay unless she asked me. But anyway, she was six foot one. So taller than me.

SPEAKER_04

And yeah, I've dated a tall chick before. It's kind of fun, actually. Strawberry blonde, curly. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So anyway, so bottom line is this this white girl, whose name I will get eventually all remember. She is really good. And the blacks don't like that. So they've started harassing her and like, you know, physically assaulting her, basically. So pushing her instead of doing legal blocking, they're doing illegal shit. Basically. And so you've got basically the Caitlin Clark is her name. And she she is the by most accounts the number one women's player out there in the uh WNBA. Okay. Um she looks like a nice neighbor kind of girl. Extremely good at like getting shots from anywhere. Like a three-pointer queen. Okay. She knows how to do that shit. So she's get kind of pushed around by these men, frankly, in the LWNBA, like that chick that Russia detained for a while.

SPEAKER_01

Brittany Griner.

SPEAKER_04

That's the one, yeah. Mr. Griner. Oh, Mr. Griner.

SPEAKER_00

And they should totally DNA test everyone.

SPEAKER_04

Dude. I mean, if you listen to that dude talking, it's obviously a dude. There's no two ways about it.

SPEAKER_01

Haven't ever listened, but okay.

SPEAKER_04

Well, if you hear the voice, you would swear to god it's a guy. There there's no two ways around it. No, it's it it sounds like my voice. It's really except with a black guy.

SPEAKER_01

There's a lot of feminine in Columbia.

SPEAKER_04

It's super feminine, just like my voice. Yeah. Super feminine. And then a an even taller blonde chick who is very cute as well, named Sophie Cunningham, who's another white chick, like very, you know, blonde white looking, has basically decided to be her defender. So I think they got to be friends when they were on different teams, and then they get on the same team, so they're playing together. And the Sophie Clark's even a little taller, she's like 6'2, I think, 6'3, and a lot more physical. So she will fuck the black girls up if they go after Caitlin. And and she also happens to be a black belt in something. I don't remember what. So girl knows how to fight.

SPEAKER_01

Black belt and something, you know, you don't.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, she's a black belt and something. Whatever. You know, it's it's a thing. Now they're both white, they're both cute, and the blacks are hating on them. And and this has been causing a lot of controversy because the league has been blind to it because, of course, you know, only white people are doing bad things. Black people are incapable of doing anything bad. Okay. So they've been basically hitting these two up with penalty fees, and then it completely ignoring any time that they're actually attacked.

SPEAKER_01

Which WNBA players don't make a bunch of money.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I mean, we say that, but you know, they're making anywhere between 200k on the low end and a million on the on the high end. So compared to the men, they're not making a lot of money. Compared to the average worker in America, they're making way more than they should. So I would definitely say that. But I've been posting, I'm surprised you haven't even looked at any of them. I've been posting Sophie Cunningham videos because she's actually, you know, she makes TikTok videos all the time. And they're pretty good.

SPEAKER_01

And uh her league base minimum is 270. There you go. Super max contract for an elite one goes up to 1.4.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so that's not not nothing.

SPEAKER_01

It's probably what the men should be making.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. What are the men making? 10 million?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah. So the cool thing that's happened though is now both of these girls have got massive contracts for sponsorships. And the blacks don't like that either, because it's not the blacks getting the contracts. So they just got so I guess the way it worked is that Caitlin got a contract with Adidas and then told them that if they want to do a deal with her, they have to do a deal with Sophie.

SPEAKER_01

I know that the world is healing.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. And so Sophie now has a deal with Adidas. Now they're in making 20 million a year instead of you know one million a year. Mm-hmm. So, and the way that I mean, and Sophie's got a podcast too. That's the other thing I like.

SPEAKER_00

Is it called Call Her Daddy?

SPEAKER_04

It's called Yeah, right? Uh it's called uh Show Me Something.

SPEAKER_00

I think I think that chick's name is actually Sophia, but anyway, whatever. Which chick close enough. Does the call her daddy?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, the one, yeah, the podcast that John listens to, yeah. Uh-huh. Well, this one is definitely Sophie. Which obviously is still Sophia. Which I would that that is I've always liked that name. I always thought if I would have a girl, that would be uh the name I would use. Sophia.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so you're crushing on these chicks, is what you're telling me.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, big time. Yeah. Totally. Totally. No, I it's like I said, I don't know why you're not seeing all the messages flying. I'm posting like three, four videos a day. So I've been watching way more women's basketball than I've ever watched in my entire life.

SPEAKER_00

And it's it's white chicks.

SPEAKER_01

While we're on sports, did you watch the McGregor fight? No. All 90 seconds of it?

SPEAKER_04

No. I haven't watched MMA in a while. I mean, the last time I watched was the White House thing, obviously, but it's been a while before that.

SPEAKER_01

So that was awesome. This other card was not the fights before it, not that fight. But McGregor comes out and goes to throw a kick and he landed on his knee and he blew his knee out, dude. Oh like on the very first kick, and to the point where he could not hardly get back up. Yeah. And he tried to do it again and he fell down again. And it it was just over. Like, yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_04

But he he's kind of getting old. Yeah, he is old. And I remember watching him, you know, 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_01

But a lot more conspiracy theories on oh, this this was rigged and this was that, and so on, and they should never let him fight.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think they need to rig him, frankly, because a lot of these fights you look at, like, it's very obvious who's gonna win. It's the person in better shape. Not necessarily better moves, but better shape.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well. Anyway. Did did you watch JD on Rogan?

SPEAKER_04

I watched about half of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, me too. I haven't finished it. JD is just not very dynamic. Rogan was the one talking most of the time.

SPEAKER_04

He keeps being the uh, you know, the middle of the rotor guy that nobody likes.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, he's very intelligent, but yeah, I'll give him that.

SPEAKER_04

It's not like he's using that wit. He just doesn't sound committed to anything. It just feels very much like he's just saying things for the sake of saying them. And that like there's no path like you look at Marco. Oh, yeah, he's gonna be like, you know, yeah, he he speaks from the heart on any topic. And and when he when he feels like you know he's a fish

McGregor Injury And JD On Rogan

SPEAKER_04

out of water, he'll make a joke about it. Like it's he's very genuine. And JD does not come across as genuine one bit.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, he's not out, so I don't know if I'd call him genuine.

SPEAKER_01

Who, JD? No. Marco. What do you mean? I mean, he was a little gayish dancer boy there in Miami.

SPEAKER_04

Well, not I mean, everybody's a little gay in Miami. Come on.

SPEAKER_00

I I okay. I don't know that, but okay. Well, you know, who isn't down there? I mean, I've been to Miami.

SPEAKER_04

Pretty gay city. Not compared to Key West. No, Key West is way gayer. That's true. That is true.

SPEAKER_01

He had said you don't want to be going in the pool in Key West because my dad always hated going to Key West when he was shrimping.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, my dad always made a lot of jokes about we went there a number of times, and it's a good spot for windsurfing, and it was always all just non-stop kind of homophobic shit. It's like continuous. Yeah. But I I don't know. I like Key West because the cats, you know, you got Hemingway's house with full of cats and Hemingway.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. I don't like Hemingway as an author.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you said that. Yeah. I do. Not a fan. And then it's actually it's a good fishing spot. I've gone deep sea fishing down there. A couple times, and then I went sailboarding, windsurfing, whatever you want to call it down there. It's it's kind of a long way to get there. Because I was drove from Miami. I never flew to their little airport. But I don't know. Generally, generally liked it. It's shit's open all night long down there, man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Sloppy Joe's and all the bars.

SPEAKER_01

When I was a kid, my dad was shrimping off of Key West. And he was out pretty deep and decided to pick up the phone and call home. He picked up the phone and it said, Welcome to Cellular de Cuba. Click. Nope, not making that call.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Well, your dad may well have been fishing there when I was there too.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I'm sure this was uh, you know, early 90s, late 80s.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm trying to remember what year. I think it was. I want to say it was like 87 was the year where I drifted to Cuba.

Key West Stories And A Drift Toward Cuba

SPEAKER_04

And I've been there a bunch of times since then, but that year was very memorable because I was like the only person going from the US to Cuba instead of the other direction.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Everybody else was trying to escape. I think I told this story on the podcast before. I don't think you have. No? Okay. So I was there in the spring during spring break in school, and I was windsurfing. And the I was leaving from the the beach that's on the south side of the island, and the wind was like from the west or something from the Gulf. And so it was it was it was fun for about an hour, and then the wind changed, and it the wind came from the north and started getting breezy. And for about an hour, I was trying to make way upwind to get back to the beach on the island. So from the from the island, it looked like I was just going left, right, left, right, left, right. But I wasn't really making a whole lot of headway towards the island itself. And finally, I just got tired. So I took a break. And you know, I'm like covered in dried salt at this point because it's pretty salty down here.

SPEAKER_01

And it the transition area between three bodies of water.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. So your winds are crazy out there. So I'm looking at the island, and it's getting smaller and smaller as I'm being carried down partly by the current, partly by the wind blowing. It's pushing me south further and further towards Cuba. And they're only 90 miles apart there, Cuba to Key Key West. And I think I got to 90 miles is a long way to drift. It is a very long way to drift. But I get about 15 miles away from Key West when that boat boat picked me up and then brought me back to Key West. That was a fishing boat coming back. But it was, you know, I mean, I wasn't that nervous because I knew that uh I could still get to Cuba in less than a day, but I didn't really want to get to Cuba. I I'd prefer to get back to the US, but but that was not gonna happen with the wind blowing the way it was. It was just it was just blowing directly off the island and and south to where I was. Um, and normally you can kind of go upwind in there, but you got a combination of current and wind and a gusty wind like that, you just don't make a whole lot of way back upwind.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm I'm old enough to remember the wet foot, dry foot debates. For what? Cuban refugees. Oh yeah. If they have one if they have one foot on land, they're a refugee.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's uh we can't. That's why I say I think I was the only report. I was the only person actually going towards Cuba instead of away from it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

By the way, Israel and the new defense authorization bill that everybody's freaking out about. Yeah. We have five eyes. We have all this information sharing with other countries.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Which I don't trust as much as Israel.

SPEAKER_01

It does nothing to quote unquote merge the forces. That is total shit.

SPEAKER_04

Not what your mom thinks, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I know, and I've corrected her.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah, I I think the only difference is they're making public shit like this, but like there are agreements between all kinds of countries, including countries we don't necessarily consider friendly. We share every sharing spy info. Yeah. All those countries, all the East European countries. You know, we we share shit with Greece, we share shit with Gary. We just share a lot of shit with a lot of countries because we're trying to get something from them.

SPEAKER_01

So you should just conquer Canada.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, uh, I I agree. I mean, I don't think there's a whole lot to do. Yeah, exactly. Well, and you saw that we we did arrest an illegal from Canada.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and deported them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I love that hilarity. Uh huh. Uh huh. And I and I, of course, I had to post it's like nothing good ever comes from Canada. We should just ship all of the Canadians back.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the wildfire smoke, it's choking revealing.

SPEAKER_04

Recruiting that country, man. We talked about that in the morning podcast. Because Darren is having issues with the smoke out where he lives. And he's nowhere near Canada.

SPEAKER_00

He's in Chicago.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly. It's crossing the whole Chicago Lake Chicago or what is that? Lake Michigan.

SPEAKER_01

We're in Texas and we get sand from the Sahara.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'm okay with that. But it's the Canadian smoke that sucks. And I remember being in Seattle a couple of years ago and they had the same issue. Like you could barely see like 200 feet because of the Canadian forest fires.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and let's be clear, these are man-made fires because they're not managing the forest.

SPEAKER_04

They're not managing the forest at all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because the the five-toed like this.

SPEAKER_04

The five-told purple rabbits, you know, they need to be protected.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. The wildfires like this are actually very normal. Like if you read some of the people who discovered California, they called it a hell hole and all this, that, and the other, because of all the wildfires. Yeah. But we are human and we can adapt our environment to us. And in fact, we're supposed to. Exactly. We're supposed to be good stewards. Yeah, exactly. You know, and what we should be doing is thinning out the underbrush, doing all this stuff, doing the controlled burns. And it's interesting because it's only in liberal jurisdictions that don't have that don't do this. Like in Texas, every few years, they will go to like the Big Thicket or Davy Crockett National Forest, and they'll do an undergrowth plumb. Well, they'll do controlled burns to make sure the undergrowth doesn't get so bad that if something sparks off, it's a problem.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, even in Minnesota, back when I was a kid, back in the 70s, 80s, there, you had controlled burns in the northern woods there in the Minnesota. Because if you don't do it, you know, it's a very it's almost like a movie wooded kind of thing where you walk into the woods and it literally is dark because all the sunlight is blocked by so much vegetation there that and and it's mostly pine. And man, pine needles catch fire from a lightning strike so fucking easily. Have you ever been to East Texas? No, I still haven't. I it's on my to-do list.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, you've been to like Jasper, but northeast Texas, where you got the big thicket, which is literally one of the largest pine forests in North America.

SPEAKER_04

Yep, yep. Yeah, so if you don't control it, you're gonna get fires no matter what. It's just better to do it in a controlled scenario.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, agreed. By the way, I I I cooked last night. This is a dish that took me three days to make.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So the reason why I took three days is because I had to pickle some pork. So I made some pickled pork, which I had never done before. I modified Alton Brown's recipe a little bit. And then I used that pickled pork and some andouille, and I made red beans and rice. And my god, dude, was it some of the best red beans and rice I've ever had?

SPEAKER_04

Okay. Sounds good.

SPEAKER_01

Have you ever had pickled pork?

SPEAKER_04

I've had pickled pork. I've never made pickled pork. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man, is it good? I, you know, I I've had it at some coon ass houses because that's the way they do it, is they pickled pork and make it, right? But I

Wildfire Smoke And Forest Management

SPEAKER_01

had never done it. I would always just use pork and some sausage and called it good. But dude, this was good. Some Zumo Zandouy and pickled pork and oh my god, it was good. Yep. Plenty of bell pepper and garlic and you know, onion and celery and all that, and just sounds yummy. Oh, I I ate another bowl tonight for dinner. So, anyway, I said that to say two recipes coming. I gotta type them up.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, yeah. Type them up.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna go on a Cajun theme here for a second.

SPEAKER_04

Alright. How many people are up for that? Cajun food's good. Yep. You gotta like butter.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, if you don't like butter, you're not gonna like Cajun food.

SPEAKER_01

Let's see.

SPEAKER_04

We talked about, or no, we didn't talk about Marco basically telling the international court to go get stuffed. International criminal court has no jurisdiction inside the US.

SPEAKER_01

There you go.

SPEAKER_04

That's a good thing. Marco doing Marco.

SPEAKER_01

Did you see the Scots meeting in the woods?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_01

What are they doing? Uh they're having anti-Muslim meetings in the woods. Oh, good. Good. Yeah, I think uh in Ireland still, you know, going off.

SPEAKER_04

Burning shit, yeah. Well, speaking of burning, the number of churches in New York that are mysteriously caught fire is amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Across the country.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but in New York in particular. Like they're they're church burning happening almost every day.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, is that surprising with Kami Mendani?

SPEAKER_04

Not at all, but you know, shocked, shocked, I tell you.

SPEAKER_01

Also, speaking of Ireland, CSB has asked

Pickled Pork Red Beans And Recipe Talk

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me to be on his YouTube show.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do it.

SPEAKER_01

If I can find time, work has been crazy. Yeah. You know, but yeah, if I can find time, I'm I've already told him we'll we'll figure something else. He he wants me to talk about my little AI setup of the project.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, your project. Yeah, he wants me to talk about making music and stuff too.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and I gotta tell you, one of the things I've done that has really enhanced performance is not let models roll off. So I choose the model I want primarily just loaded. And then if I want and let it run, let it stay in VRAM. And then if I want to switch models, go in and shut down the model I'm on, load the model I want instead of letting it auto load when I do a query. Huge performance increase.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Like we so like with Quinn 3.6 on a 35 billion parameter model on that little Tesla

Local AI Performance And What Palantir Is

SPEAKER_01

card I've got. I if I do that, if I preload it, I'm getting 40 tokens a second. Which is extremely usable.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's pretty good. So 40 tokens are like 20 words.

SPEAKER_01

A second, yes.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Not bad. Not gonna set any speed records, but it's certainly usable.

SPEAKER_01

It it's I mean, it I'm telling you, it it feels plenty quick.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And also, given my work, you have to understand that I have you know access to all the frontier models and all that that work pays for. But I also work with and have access to Palantir. And I gotta tell you, I think a lot of people, including John and Adam, are getting it wrong about what Palantir is.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, totally. I've been saying that for a long time.

SPEAKER_01

Having used Palantir, having built projects around Palantir, Palantir is just built different. So, you know, they don't call it a model really, they call it an ontology. And their ontologies mix multiple different items here. And I've got to be careful what I say because of the business relationship and everything else, but all I can tell you is Palantir ain't an LLM dude, it is different. So, yeah, it's pretty neat to see what's coming out of it. And you know, I've poo-pooed AI for a long time, and I still do, in the idea that, oh, AI is gonna take all our jobs. No, AI is gonna take all the internships.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, to some extent. That that is true. And I know I've been running into that with the uh company that I'm working on, to where stuff that would we would be looking for low-pay humans to do is all being like all the research, all the validation, court cases, all kinds of stuff. It's all being done by AI right now. Although I it's funny because one of the tasks that we had it run do research on is comparison of using a paid AI model versus getting a private server running schooled up with the AI cards in it. And the the general consensus answer from the AI is it's way cheaper to use the AI services out there and just do it that way versus having your own server sitting in the in a data center running an AI on hardware.

SPEAKER_01

Um I mean again it depends on scale, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but like it found that your basic cost of doing it through a hardware solution.

SPEAKER_01

If you're buying the server, sure, but if you're renting server time from someone, I don't know that that's true.

SPEAKER_04

Well, but you're if you're paying for the the hardware, you're le you could be leasing the hardware, you're not buying it, but if you're leasing they're they're looking at that being a minimum of $5,000 a month. And the you could get a shit ton of leased AI, meaning you know, you're using somebody else's AI for five five grand a month. So I think it makes sense because I think right now all the companies are subsidizing their models.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and that that also goes to the shift that NVIDIA has been talking about about going to token factories, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But that's where it's a distinction there. It's a buzzword, but it is a distinction.

SPEAKER_04

But that that's where I think ultimately it's just going to be more of a a marketing benefit to say that you're running on your own hardware in the United States, nothing's ever leaving the country, and nothing is being commingled with Google or anybody else.

SPEAKER_01

And not being used for learning.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and absolutely not being used for learning. Yeah, like you're purely running in a closed system.

SPEAKER_01

When we first started corporately going down the AI track, you know, big engineering firm and everything else, we had to really look at IP and what IP is potentially leaving. Exactly. That's why I think I think you're gonna get to a point where you've got companies running their own internal stuff. I do, I think so. And then having a gateway to one of the frontier models for harder stuff, yep. And that gateway controlling and going, okay, is this IP? Is this IP? Is this IP?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and I think there are like if you're doing pure research, there's really nothing proprietary, or at least you can phrase it in a way where there's nothing proprietary that's gonna leak out. But if you're doing any kind of analysis or comparison of your existing business stuff, that's where the danger lies.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, you're assuming the the user is smart enough to do that, but yes.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I'm I'm just thinking of terms of company policies around it. Like what you allow the user to do. And if you're doing it on your own hardware, on leased hardware at least, but you're running the actual model, then you've got a lot more flexibility you can do there. So I I still think that we're gonna have an AI bubble burst in two to three years, and the prices on all this shit's gonna be cheaper. Dude, I went and looked at 5090 cards just for fun the other day.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

And before the ramp prices started going up, before you bought your PC, the last time I looked at a 5090 was about 16 months ago. So it was around May of last year. And I could have gotten the 5090 just over $2,000. Then I was thinking, man, you know, they really ought to be coming down to more like $1,600, $1,700. I'll get one then. I'll get one for I like I'll totally pay $1,600 to get the one I want. Because the one I want was a liquid cooled one that that Asus makes. It's a smaller physical size card because it's got full liquid cooling on it, so everything's remote. So I really like that design, and and it's uh it was like $2,200. And I was like, nah, I'll wait. So I check pricing. Would you like to guess how much that actual card now is a year later?

SPEAKER_01

Six grand?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, almost. Like $5,500.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

$50, it's more than doubled.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I was laughing when you said that, because it's it is insane. Have you looked at the 6000 series cards?

SPEAKER_04

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_01

That's gonna be a whole nother thing. Yeah, yeah, it's just uh but here's a question for you. If we do have an AI bubble pop, do you think NVIDIA survives it?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, yeah. I think so. Look, the reality is NVIDIA was able they're gonna have to the revenue will crash. Oh, yeah. The revenue will crash, they'll cut a bunch of people, but they will totally survive. Nvidia on its worst day post layoffs would still be bigger than ATI. It would be bigger than AMD. They're a huge company right now. One of the world's largest companies, in fact.

SPEAKER_01

So in terms of revenue.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, in terms of revenue, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So did you see the investigations around the RAM companies?

SPEAKER_04

Were they looking for pollution or what?

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. Well, I mean, remember, I told you, like in my life, starting with like the 80s onwards, is when I started buying computer parts. It feels like about every five years or so, Godzilla goes and stomps on some factory, making everybody's prices go up. And then over the next five years, they slowly drop back down to reasonable levels, and boom, another Godzilla event happens. Like a fire in a factory, an earthquake, or a tsunami, or some kind of bullshit. Something always happens, and it's about on a once every five year schedule. So if prices have been too good for too long, you know some shit's coming.

SPEAKER_01

Well, we'll see. I mean, we've seen these companies get hit up for collusion before.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So since you say Godzilla, Godzilla. Have you looked at the housing market in Japan?

SPEAKER_04

Not something I've looked at, no.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you should. Looked at the housing market the other day in like a 3,000 square foot house for 18 grand.

SPEAKER_04

What?

SPEAKER_01

Take it a 3,000 square foot house for 18 grand.

SPEAKER_04

You mean 18 grand worth of taxes every year or?

SPEAKER_01

No, 18,000.

SPEAKER_04

That seems very low.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Because these outside the big cities, you know, the so many abandoned homes and stuff, the population shrinking and everything.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01

And they're encouraging Westerners to move in. Really? It's actually pretty it's getting much easier if you were property. Nope. The government has switched on that position. So they, if you're buying property, getting a resident visa is not as hard.

Japan Housing Prices And Thailand Reality Check

SPEAKER_01

Interesting. I know there's a lot of people. What I was about to say something about the Japanese women wanting to ride the white horse.

SPEAKER_04

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no, I haven't looked there.

SPEAKER_01

I did look in the Thailand plan exit exit strategy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, for sure. So housing market.

SPEAKER_01

So look at the housing market in Japan. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I'll check it out. No, that sounds cool. So, Thailand, you get a two-bedroom condo. You can lease that for about 400 bucks a month. Like very Western quality, modern.

SPEAKER_02

Do you want to have to worry about lady or lady boy?

SPEAKER_04

Well, I mean, I would hope you got eyeballs, but you know.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, I had a marine buddy of mine who went uh who ended up in Dhailand. And he's like, dude, there's some that you just wouldn't know. Yeah, you wouldn't be able to tell.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah. But they do have women there too. It's not just men. The whole country is not just men.

SPEAKER_00

Obviously.

SPEAKER_01

But my point is like families literally choose a son to make into essentially a castrato for sex work. Because it brings the family so much money. Like it's insane what they're culturally doing over there. It's it's so evil and deviant. I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, it's deviant. I but they've been doing it for a long time. This is not a new phenomenon. This is not like, you know, Westerners coming corrupt to this peaceful primitive society or whatever. Oh, this has all been part of their culture. They you know, when the dudes are like five foot three and a hundred pounds, it it it's like it doesn't even take that much work. We're not talking about the American trannies that are you know 220 and 6 feet.

SPEAKER_01

Did you see one of the candidates in Maine? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one I'm referring to. Yeah, yeah. How are the Democrats letting that happen?

SPEAKER_04

Big ass dude pretending to be a chick.

SPEAKER_00

Ugly, big ass dude.

SPEAKER_04

Very ugly, yeah. I mean, that kind of goes in line with the ugly ass chicks that are also the purple-haired chicks that are supporting him.

SPEAKER_01

But I mean, in not a like, not a coherent answer, right? No.

SPEAKER_04

No, they never have those at all. Why are you qualified?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I just think I would what it was like I'm an artist or some bullshit like that. Yeah, and I I yeah, I'm an angry citizen, and now I'd be an angry senator.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. That's what we need. Well, we also don't need the the the sisters or wives of people either.

SPEAKER_01

I don't I look the governor doing that, one thing. Trump and already endorsing for the primary next time.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Hopefully he walks that back. Right.

SPEAKER_04

I just not a fan of that. I mean, it just feels rock.

SPEAKER_01

Well, we don't even know who who she's gonna end up running. We know nothing about her. Unless she gets in there and it's just like, my brother was a war hawk. I'm not a war hawk, but I'm a damn libertarian Republican, and I'm gonna be great.

SPEAKER_04

She's gonna be like a liberal chick that's also a war hawk. This is the problem with Trump's picks, usually. Did you see from uh speaker?

SPEAKER_01

I I you you gotta you gotta get a chance.

SPEAKER_04

Did you see the quote from Clinton? Bill Clinton? No. I don't know, I don't know where he was speaking, but they just did a quote from here who says the Palestinians were offered a state, they refused.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I I did see that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, a state wasn't their goal, killing juice was their goal. And I mean, he's getting up there. I'm surprised that he's not seen Al yet, but frankly, like this is the old school 1990s liberal talking. This these are the people that we were on the other side of as conservatives. I think by modern standards, Bill Clinton would be called a Nazi.

SPEAKER_01

Hold on, I gotta check something.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Keep talking.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, I don't know that that uh I'm just gonna keep scrolling here.

SPEAKER_01

I I gotta see if this is true before I say something.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

Israel Aid Debate And Iran Missile Escalation

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_04

Or using the word faggot.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they shouldn't.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, the we're basically seeing British style policing action happening in Dallas now. Sorry, this was in Fort Worth, which is even more surprising because I thought Fort Worth's a little more conservative than Dallas.

SPEAKER_01

So Jesse Waters just posted Iran ju and I I haven't seen this on the Fox News page yet, but it's verified Jesse Waters account just in Iran just fired ballistic missiles at US base in Saudi Arabia. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

So haven't they been doing that the whole time?

SPEAKER_01

Not ballistic missiles. They've been doing drones and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04

At some point, they have to run out of this shit, man.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, they've been building up for a while.

SPEAKER_04

They have, but they're using more than they're currently building.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, most certainly, since we knocked the shit out of that. Yeah, we've been reducing their production capabilities. Oh, by what fucking metric?

SPEAKER_04

I know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Well, and it it's honestly the while we were on this little hiatus of like Mo U, I think mostly not winning it by the fact that they're still in office. Like nothing. Yeah, a few of the people died, but the same regime is still running the country. They're still sending shit at us and our friendly Arabs out there. So by that count, we weren't really winning. So now that we're attacking them again, now we're once again winning. But you can't just stop attacking them. You have to finish the job. And uh I've seen videos from the northern provinces of Iran where there are absolutely more protesters now that are you know chanting anti-IRGC stuff on the streets. But it's it's certainly not all of Iran, it's not in Tehran, it's not in Tehran, but I think people kind of got a little freaked out at 50,000 friends getting killed in one weekend. So it'll take a little more destruction before people feel comfortable going back out there, but in northern Iran it's definitely happening.

SPEAKER_01

How long till Cuba flips?

SPEAKER_04

Well, I don't know. I is anything happening in Cuba. We just turned our lights off. I mean, other than that, is there anything else going on?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, modern day society living without electricity is not exactly but that's assuming modern day.

SPEAKER_04

Remember, they're still driving 1950s cars. They're not driving tests. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're they're made of you know Frankenstein parts. But they look cool. Yeah, I don't know, man. I I I guess that there's somebody's probably done a study and determined that all we have to do is keep the power off for like half a year, and then we could just walk in there or something. I assume that's what somebody did.

SPEAKER_01

That or they'll scream for humanitarian aid or they'll revolt or whatever.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll tell you what it is. When we see Greta Thumberg? Thumberg Thumberg.

SPEAKER_01

Thumbberg, yes.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, when we see her on a sailboat sailing for Cuba, then we know that they're about to be fighting. My god, that sounds just like her. It's amazing, Ben.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks, Jim.

SPEAKER_04

You had me fooled on that one.

SPEAKER_00

I I I I have a lot of people. You pick up the intonation very well.

SPEAKER_04

That is totally the way she talks. And it's so ridiculous, too. That you can see.

SPEAKER_02

How dare you turn out the lights?

SPEAKER_04

You you every video of her you see, she's sitting on something with a protest sign, and then she sees the cops coming and she gets a smile on her face because that means she's gonna get get to stand up and go sit in the back of a car in comfort. And so she's like putting her hands up for the handcuffs, and like she totally knows the routine. I don't think she minds the routine, she got what she needed, which is some photo ops, and then she's now arrested and moved on and everything. But like, I guess she solved global warming, right? Because she's not doing that anymore, so she solved that, it's done. I guess. So now she's moved down to the uh Palestinian conflict. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, anyway, we'll we'll we'll see what ends up happening with Israel and Palestine for sure, especially as the US stops funding Israel. If that actually happens, that will be Yeah yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Sooner than later, hopefully. I think that would be a good thing. As do most people, I think. On both sides of the like that that should have probably stopped a few years back.

SPEAKER_02

A few decades back.

SPEAKER_04

Maybe, maybe. I don't know the two de certainly after the Iraqi war, for sure. There was really no reason for it after that.

SPEAKER_01

So Benny Johnson's reporting the same thing about ballistic missiles.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. I I mean, are they insinuating that these are gonna be hard for us to shoot down?

SPEAKER_01

Or I think it's just an escalation because what's on the ballistic missile, right? So a drone's not carrying a nuke payload.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but they don't have nukes, hopefully.

SPEAKER_01

Uh okay. Nukes are not that hard, dude.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I mean they could certainly do a dirty bomb. Have you started watching The Silo? Season three? I haven't. So in the first episode of season three, they have a flashback where they're talking about the Iranian dirty bombs.

SPEAKER_01

Great! That's not programming at all.

SPEAKER_04

Uh-huh. So I assume you're gonna watch it. Like the season one I thought was great. Uh-huh. Season two was very meh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

We'll see how season three is because it's mostly the season two cast. But the but it's got flashbacks to modern day. So that's the part that's like different from the past seasons. We're we're finally getting some of the history on how we got from here to there.

SPEAKER_01

And you didn't read the books, right?

SPEAKER_04

No. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_01

I started one of them, but it wasn't good.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I should have given it more of a chance.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

But the series was coming out, and I decided I was just gonna watch the series and then go back if I wanted to.

SPEAKER_04

I sent you a book that I finished listening to. That no, not the free book. That's it's it's all you, buddy. You're the one who found it. I yeah, I found it because I knew you'd be right up your alley, and it's it was the way you've been acting. Um no, I uh what what book did I tell you was good? I started listening to a book called What? Is there a way to list by list by my listening dates?

SPEAKER_01

You can list by the date you bought it.

SPEAKER_04

Bought it, I guess. But the problem is a lot of these books I bought a long time ago. And your listening stats, maybe? Oh yeah, here we go. Flybot. Did you did you see that one? I recommend that.

SPEAKER_01

I read that one a long time ago.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you did? Oh. Yeah. That was narrated by Ray Porter. I like him as narrator. It's mostly why I got it. Also read James Moriarty Consulting Criminal.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. And for those who don't know, Moriarty is Sherlock Holmes Nemesis. By the way, last story I have at least is Home Depot

Book Recommendations And Hard Sci Fi Taste

SPEAKER_01

in Dearborn, Michigan has started putting Arabic on the signs inside the store.

SPEAKER_04

Putting what on them?

SPEAKER_01

Arabic.

SPEAKER_04

Arabic. Yeah, that's not a good sign.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Nope. I don't know why Adam keeps denying that Michigan is turning into an Islamist state. It obviously is. I don't know. And he keeps like, no, it's all people are making a big fuss over it. It's all fine. Yeah, it's you know all our listeners from there are saying there's nothing else. Yeah, they're because they're all Muslim. They have no problem with it. You know, same thing with Dallas. Freaking Plano's turning into a uh jihadist stronghold.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Houston too. I mean, it's all over.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, but like Plano is very condensed, you know, like you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01

In fact, I'll be in Dallas Monday.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah? Okay, well that sucks. So I also am almost done. I've only got 44 minutes left of a book by Orson Scott Card called Wakers. Have you read them? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You have? Yeah, these are random books that I'm reading, and they'll say, but uh Orson Scott Card is one of my favorite authors, so I've read pretty much everything he's ever read.

SPEAKER_01

Have you ever read Treason by him?

SPEAKER_04

Don't think so, because I would have remembered. I've read a few of his books.

SPEAKER_01

I like So Treason was his very first book. Oh and it's the most poorly written of his books, but it's got a I won't give it away, but it's got a very interesting plot twist.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Like the story is good, but he just the the writing style wasn't really settled yet. Okay. So and you can tell that, but it's a good book.

SPEAKER_04

Gotcha. Alright.

SPEAKER_01

Well, remember, I read like 50 plus books a year, dude.

SPEAKER_04

You say that, but lately you haven't been recommending any, so I'm curious if you're still reading that many.

SPEAKER_01

I've been reading a lot of technical stuff right now. So less on fiction, but much more on.

SPEAKER_04

Are you still reading the Sons of War series? I'm I stop with about 20 hours left on that one. I'm gonna get back to it.

SPEAKER_01

I've I've started that, but I I haven't been reading as much fiction. I've been reading lots of other things. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, I've just, you know, between traveling and just kind of have putting something on, I've been doing a lot of stuff. I'm gonna reread Project Cale Mary. I read that when it first came out.

SPEAKER_01

Did you watch the movie?

SPEAKER_04

No, that's why I want to reread it. I want to reread it and then watch the movie.

SPEAKER_01

The movie was done well. People say that they rushed it a little bit, but they it was done well.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, it's a movie. If it was a TV series, then it would be exactly like the book, probably.

SPEAKER_01

And Andy Weir actually fixed one of the math problems that he got wrong with.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I saw that interview. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You talked about that. Yep. Which is cool. And I I love in that interview they were talking about. I don't think so. That was somebody else interviewing him, but they asked him about some of the formulas, and he said, Oh yeah, let me show you. So he pulls out an Excel spreadsheet, and it's got like 20 tabs, and he's got all the calculations for everything in there. I mean, pretty much anything that has a calculation that you would expect, he's got a tab for it where he did the actual calculations.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and he's using real constraints to drive a narrative, and I love it. It's it's what I love about hard sci-fi. It's why I think Andy Weir's books have been so good for so long.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Like I remember when he was writing The Martian and posting it on the website as a and working through it, right? I I was enthralled with it then, right? Even before it was technically a published book.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah, I I I also very much like that style. That's always it was always my favorite style is hard sci-fi. Because you just you you have to make the least amount of ha have you ever read the honor Harrington books? No, who are those by?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I'm gonna butcher the author, I'm gonna forget the author's name. Hold on one second. Honor Harrington, the Honor Verse. Who is the author? Oh, David Weber.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

They're pretty good. They're pretty hard sci-fi and pretty damn good. The main protagonist is female, um, but there's a lot of she's not she she's a badass, but she's still very feminine character. Okay. So I i it's good. The and there's a ton of books. I haven't even read all of them. Like the at whatever island, Namasaki Island, or whatever their training base is, or whatever the backstory books and stuff. I haven't read all those, but the main honor stuff, I've read all of them. And it's if you like a good space combat opera style sort of story, they're very good. David Webber's a great author. I've read a lot of his stories.

SPEAKER_04

We're talking about sci-fi. I should mention that uh one of the games I play, Elite Dangerous, just had a major update. And they released a new feature where did they fix the refresh rate? I mean, I have no problems with the refresh rate. It's 144 frames per second for me. I don't know why it's lower than that for you.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it wasn't that for you either when I was in there.

SPEAKER_04

No, you're talking about Star Citizen.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, Star Citizen, sorry.

SPEAKER_04

This is Elite Dangerous. Elite Dangerous, you can get up to 200 frames if you want. It's a very low spec game. But it looks still looks not very nice. But anyway, they just said it came out with a new update that allows you to basically go and play with your three closest friends for a group of four to go do missions together, regardless of where you are in the galaxy. Which was always

Elite Dangerous Update And Playing Together

SPEAKER_04

one of the main difficulties, I should say, with that game. Right, right, exactly. Because like a huge thing, a huge draw for that game is that it's a one-to-one map of the uh Milky Way galaxy with every solar system and planet in there, and so half the fun, or a large part of the fun, is just picking a direction and then jumping from solar system to or star system to star system, and and then mapping them. And then if you land on the planet, you know, if you're the first guy that's ever been there, you get first footfall, which is very cool. And that your name will literally be listed in the game from that point on as the first person that's ever set foot on that planet. So a an issue for them was like, okay, but if I want to play with other people, either we all have to do that, or we have to fly back and then meet somewhere to do stuff together. Well, they've solved that problem by essentially allowing you to go into this mode where you're like flown on a you know a separate carrier to meet up together and go and do a mission. So it's a way to Yeah, Magic MacGuffin. Yeah, yeah, it kind of is, but it works and even works when you're far apart. Like I've been playing with guys from Australia and the UK, and it's basically like the five eyes group that we run. So we've got people that that are spread around the globe, let's just say, and yet it works perfectly fine when we're playing together.

SPEAKER_01

Cool. I might have to jump back to the game.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I think I think once you get done with your current playthrough of the I keep forgetting the name of the game. Bioshock. Yeah, yeah. Bioshock. But once you get done with that. Yeah, I I get it. I get it. But Elites is a multiplayer game. It's uh but it's a game that you can definitely play on your own time because generally speaking, you're not under threat of attack ever, so you can kind of unless you want to be. I mean, there's areas you could go. But basically, it's an it's a game you can play whether you have two hours a week or 20 hours a week.

SPEAKER_01

Who's anything else, Ben? 20 hours a week for video games. No, I know some people are 40. I shot my load.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. All right, guys. See you next week. Later. And we'll talk to you later, Ben.

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