Intro And Meeting Native Patriot

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Well, howdy, Native American, how are you?

SPEAKER_01 0:29

I'm doing quite well. Gene, I believe it is.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Yeah, they're Jean, that's right. So I did the standard intro because I thought it'd be fun, but obviously you're not Ben, and people that are listening to this are gonna go, hold on. Who's this guy? So now you go by Native Patriots, you are Native American, but I don't want to tell your whole story. So can you give like a short and I mean maybe three-sentence version just to let people know a little bit about you? But mostly I think it's gonna be more interesting for us to just chat and see, you know, where we overlap, where we don't overlap, etc.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Yeah, so I'm the native patriot. I started out a couple of years ago speaking out for the American way of life, and and by that I mean the founding ideals, Christian American, and I've become a little bit more staunch in my views, but I try to stand up for the actual little guy, the one being persecuted unfairly. And it's it's worked out. I've since gained a substantial following, I would say, and have been able to participate in kind of the the cultural argument of of what's going on throughout the country.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Yeah, and I don't I've started following you on X quite a while ago. I mean, you absolutely have just grown tremendously, which is awesome. But I always thought that you had a a cool logo and a cool kind of story, backstory, as it were. And who doesn't like a guy that that's into guns and the American flag? I mean, that's like, you know. So the I guess let's uh just briefly jump into the elephant in the room. A lot of people say that they're Native American. So how Native American are you?

SPEAKER_01 2:27

I'm actually half. So I have a white mother and a a full native biological father,

Identity And Being Half Native

SPEAKER_01 2:34

and so he's Swinamish, and my mom is basically half German and half French. So I have I have quite a mixed background, but my biological father kind of dipped out when I was three, and I was raised by my white stepfather in a very small town. So culturally, I feel that I am incredibly assimilated to like the small town American, how you would picture that. But I also got to see what the res life was like through my siblings who grew up with my biological father, and you know, visiting him and and actually being somewhat involved with the Native Americans growing up. I I cut I got to see both worlds, and I'll tell you what, I definitely am grateful that I was raised where I was. Got it. And and you are in Washington State, is that where you were raised? Yep. Yeah, I actually I so I let's see, I I grew up in the foothills of Mount Rainier in a small town, maybe 2,200 people total. And I was, you know, really, really happy growing up there, and I never really experienced any racism. I mean, the town that I grew up in, it was like 99.9% white. And so, but I I always felt like just one of like I I never felt out of place uh in in the town there or even in the surrounding towns. So, you know, a lot of the Native American talk today is is how they're unfairly treated or they're you know minorities, and I never felt like a minority. I felt like I was just an equal. Yeah. And so that's that's you know, kind of the perception that I'm trying to spread is that you are equal. You're you're not a minority, you're you're just an American.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

Yeah, and you said Swinomish tribe?

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Uh Swinamish, yeah. So it's up in Laconnor. It's actually it's it's a couple hours north of Seattle in the town of Laconnor by Mount Vernon.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

I've been through Carbon up there.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Oh, okay. How about that?

SPEAKER_00 4:42

Yeah. Yeah, my dad lives in Squim.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's a beautiful area as well.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Yeah, and he moved there because uh he had a sailboat, so I got to hit all the islands over the years.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

Yeah, and he like sailboats long gone. He's very old now. But but I I actually know that area probably better than I should just because of you know going out there to see my parents and and hiding from the 115 degrees in Austin here for a week at a time.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

Yeah, yeah, that's a big transition. I mean, whenever I go out into, you know, and whenever I travel down to Texas or or anything in the summertime, and it's that it's that kind of hot. I mean, I I really recognize that like, yep, I'm definitely like genetically, I'm a coastal Indian, not a plains Indian. I wasn't built for the heat.

Texas Heat And Northwest Terrain

SPEAKER_01 5:34

I yeah, you know, I'm I'm comfortable with the rain and the the humidity we have here. Like I'm I'm cool with that, but it's mild seasons. I I don't enjoy the heat.

SPEAKER_00 5:43

Well, I I tell you, I I moved here, I grew up in Minnesota, and okay. I moved down to Texas as soon as I could. I like I love being a kid with snow and and all four seasons and you get to play and do stuff. I absolutely hated it when I had to drive to work in the snow. I was like, I do not want to live any place with winter and just get get out, move south. And like I'm the one of those people with the bumper sticker on the back that says I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah, I mean, Texas is is awesome. I've only been there a couple times, but it my experience has has always been great. Yeah, the people there are great. I mean, the it's it's not quite uh as scenic as I'm as what I'm used to here in the Pacific Northwest, you know. I mean, we have we have evergreen trees, we got hills, we got mountains, we got, you know, I'm I'm used to seeing Mount Rainier when I go outside my house. And you know, going to Texas and it's like there's a lot of flat. It's it's quite a it's you know a different change.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

There is a lot of flat and it takes a lot longer to see it. And if if my co-host Ben was here, he'd be giving you shit right now. But uh because he was born in Texas, but he always reminds me that dude, you know, you can't talk generically about Texas because when you go to East Texas, you've got maybe they're not quite as tall as your evergreens out there, but East Texas is all evergreen and it it is super lush, super it's it's like a basically a slightly colder swamp, you know. So you have it, it's not like hot, swampy like Louisiana, it's it's a little bit more of a cooler type swamp, but you've got all the the giant evergreen trees, you've got all kinds of stuff there that just makes it look very much not like a prairie. And then, of course, you got the middle of Texas, it's all totally flat, like you said. And yeah, if you ever land in Dallas, you you know that the tallest spot in Dallas is actually a highway overpass. It's taller than any hills that are anywhere in the surrounding area.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Uh yeah, and what's really interesting is like you there's no underbrush, it's just like you know, like around the trees, it's just flat, it's just ground, which is you know, I mean, in Washington State, you get into the woods and it's just like you can't walk, you can't just go walk through the woods because you're fighting six feet of underbrush that is just swallowing you. You know, you got sticker bushes and stinging nettles and all kinds of stuff. So it's it's definitely good stuff there too.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

You got raspberries and poison berries and all kinds of yummy stuff under there.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

Huckleberries and hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Yeah. No, it's pretty. I just got back, uh, I was there last week. So I live. Oh, really? Yeah, actually, I guess two weeks ago now, because I know I I flew back on Tuesday. And but I was there the the week prior. So yeah, it's it is a very, very different environment. It is quite nice. Could never live there because of the politics.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Oh, yeah, it's ran by communists and it is next level communists. It's it's demented communism. And and I mean, this is something that I I've tried to relay to regular people around the country because a lot of a lot of people don't

Washington Politics And Gun Laws

SPEAKER_01 9:09

understand or they don't they almost don't believe that it's real. Uh, you know, the kind of laws that they that they put in place and and what they're putting in our in our children's schools here, it it's it's like they just it's almost like overlooked just because it's so outlandish.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Yeah, it well, there's a lot of crazy laws. So I I Washington, or I Washington, I watch Washington Gun Review, the the lawyer guy. I like his channel.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Yeah, he's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

And you know, for like a good last three years, it's mostly been bad news coming out of Washington. I'm like, dude, what oh, it's constant. Yeah, how do you guys know way around it? How do you live there? I mean, that's the thing. It's I now Minnesota was nowhere near as bad as it is right now. I think right now it's really just part of Somalia, as far as I'm concerned, but you know, it was still pretty darn liberal when I left. But we had concealed carry and everybody I knew, you know, everybody carried. It was it was more like uh Colorado than California. But right now, of course, it's gotten absolutely insanely crazy up there. But you know, it didn't seem like Washington State was gonna go this far this fast from you know being there 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

Well, you'd be surprised that outside of Seattle and King County in general, um, maybe a couple places on the peninsula as well, it is not the insane lefty communist, tranny transgender thing that that it's portrayed to be. It's in the majority of the state, it there's just regular American conservatives and and mild Democrats, I would say. But the I guess in 2011 we switched to universal mail-in-ballots.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

Yeah, horrible mistake.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Yeah. Oh, oh yeah, it's insane. Yeah, mandatory universal mail-in-ballots, and no Republican has won anything of significance since. It has been it has been Democrat sweep after sweep after sweep after sweep. And the Supreme Court here in Washington State is the same way. It's it's you know, Democrat supermajority, and they just get to pass whatever they want. And even when we do pass something that we want, like $30 tabs, we've we voted three times for the people of Washington State have voted for $30 tabs three times in the past 20 years, and it's never been implemented, it's only ever been raised.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Yeah, yeah, it it is nuts. It's like the whole state is run by a bunch of students from Evergreen.

unknown 11:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

I mean, yeah, that's pretty much it. Yep. Yeah. So you've been there your whole life, or have you lived anywhere else at any point in time?

SPEAKER_01 12:04

No, I've been here my whole life. I've lived within 20 miles of where I live today since I was born.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Oh, wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Yeah. Have you thought about moving everywhere? Yeah, yeah. I do want to get out of the state. The only reason I'm actually still here is because I my first child I had at a wedlock with my high school sweetheart, and we never stuck together. We have a great relationship, but we we split custody. So it's every other week I get my son. Yeah. So until he turns 18, I'm kind of stuck here. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I could see that. It's bite the bullet, you know. It's I'm I'm I have to live with my choices that I made and you know, go with the consequences and do the best that I can to make him capable enough to withstand the indoctrination and the communist, I guess, temptation that young people feel.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

And that's a good way of putting it because really it it's a story, it's a lie, but much like a lot of fables, it's a story meant to push you into thinking, oh, these are the good guys, these are the bad guys. And that's usually what ends up happening to the first generation that jumps into communism, and then all the generations that come after have to fight their way back out, and it's brutal.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Yeah, and and communists have done something kind of unique is that they recognize that that humans are inherently religious, their actions are are religious. Whether you believe in in a God or not, the actions that you take are religious. Some actions, if you believe that some actions are better than others in any capacity, then you are religious. And with the downfall of Christianity, uh, with the separation of church and state that we've had since 1962, since the Supreme Court decided to remove God from all government institutions based on, you know, I mean, it was complete bogus on the separation of church and state. It's not listed in our Constitution. It was a private letter written by Thomas

Spiritual Vacuum And Christianity’s Role

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Jefferson where he was talking about basically the federal government cannot implement a state-run church. That's what it was meant for, but it was taken completely out of context. And since then, I think the communists saw an opening to take advantage of the people that don't follow Christ and and but still have that religious pull. And the communists fulfill that that got you know that that gap in their heart. Yep. They feel like they're doing something by helping people, you know, they're fighting for the weak. They're everybody's equal.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

And unfortunately, it is you're absolutely right. So you're not unfortunately right, you are right, but it's one of those things. So I grew up uh atheist, and so I've never really had any kind of a religious, you know, childhood or anything else like that. And I always just kind of thought, well, it just seems more natural to not believe in fairy tales when you get older anyway. I could see how kids you know believe in Santa Claus and Easter Bunny and everything, but why would you have to believe in something that you can't observe, you can't prove, you can't show? It's it just seems kind of silly. And it was about when I was in my late 30s and had enough life experience that I realized that if you have a vacuum, a spiritual vacuum, that it will get filled with something. And so you kind of have a choice as an intelligent person in what do you want to have your kids' vacuum be filled with? And do you want it something, you know, fairly good, like Christianity, for example, or Judaism, or you know, something that promotes the Ten Commandments and good values, or do you want to in just leave a vacuum that will be filled, guaranteed, either in high school or college by somebody you have no control over, right when the kids are going through their naturally biological rebellious phase where they hate their parents, even if they don't actually hate their parents. But you know, we all we all went through that, right? You can remember how that feels. Oh, absolutely. And so when you look at it from a pragmatic standpoint, so I can say this as an atheist still today, I can say that from a pragmatic standpoint, I want people to be Christian around me.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Yeah. And and well, I I believe that part of that reason is because you were raised in a society that was built by Christians, and the the foundations of that society are still somewhat in place. Even though you know the the practice of Christianity has bifurcated and been completely bastardized in a lot of ways, the foundation is there. I mean, it was it was a it was something very, very unique in in human history, even in Christianity itself, in the way it's practiced and and the way that they interpreted rights to the people as opposed to you know uh making a king. I I mean all of human history was it was kings and and monarchs and and fascists and dictators, and I mean that's that's what human history was. And if it wasn't those things, then it was it was small tribes warring against each other, like the Native Americans. So I mean the options weren't all that great for you know all of recorded human history, but the uh the founding fathers of America they did something very, very unique with with their their the way that they were able to write the Constitution with Christianity embedded in it, but not explicitly stated as you know, this is what you have to follow. It was it's it's so unique that you know, 250 years later, you as an atheist still see the value in what they did, and you still see and even though you are not an an explicit Christian, you still see the value in what Christian men were able to build and create.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Oh, yeah, and I absolutely care if it was Christian men that did it or not. My point is that there's a benefit to having a religion like Christianity. Now, I have nothing against Buddhists either, for example. I think they're a fairly benign, you know, low violence type religion. But you know, if we're looking at like the big religions of the world, I think Christianity definitely is is gonna be my pick for the the group of people that I want to live around. Not even just for a country, but just like generally speaking, that's the group of people. Because Islam scares the shit out of me, man.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

And I I mean it should.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

I I think that there's been an entirely too much like let's all get along given to something that for a large history of Western world, you know, European culture was the antithesis of the Western culture. It was it was the you know, the dark side, the Darth Vader to Europe for literally a thousand years. And right now watching what's going on in Europe and the UK is just sheer insanity. Like it was bad enough when they started having more and more socialism in those countries, but when then they opened the floodgates and are now at a point where London is majority Muslim as a s as the city. I was like, what the hell, man? It's a thousand-year-old city, you know, it's it was it was more than a thousand, it was Londinium originally, right? The the the Romans, when they were in

Islam And The Future Of The West

SPEAKER_00 20:04

that part of the world when they came into Britain, created that city along with a bunch of other uh settlements. And right now, it it looks like closer to Afghanistan. It's insanity.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

I think Islam the is just incompatible with what we have in the West. Yeah. Now there's there's a certain level of tolerance that we can have for assimilated Muslims, one that believe that they are American before Islam Islamists, but if they believe that their faith is higher than their the overarching identity of American, then it is completely incompatible and it should not be tolerated. We should not have Muslims in this country that that believe that. And I mean, the a mild tolerance of, you know, if if somebody wanted to practice Islam in their home, I guess it would it would be tolerable. But once they start enacting rules or getting into government claiming that they're Muslims, that's when it becomes a problem. Because the the American government is built for a Christian people, a Christian and moral people. And and I know that that was it was it Thomas Jefferson who said that? That that the Constitution was written for a moral a nah, he didn't say Christianity.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

Yeah, I've read that just I'm trying to remember. I not sure he didn't say Christian.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

Yeah, he said, yeah, I don't think it was Jefferson either. But I think it might have been Adams, actually. Yes, it was John Adams. Yeah. He said it was it was the Constitution was written for a a religious and moral people and is wholly inadequate for any other. Now, when he said religious, he was not talking about Judaism, he was not talking about Islam, he was talking about the different sects of Christianity that that's what our government is meant for. It is meant for a Christian and moral people. And because we have strayed so far from that and loosely interpreted it to the extent where we accept Jews and Muslims and Buddhists and I mean, Buddhists don't really. they don't really have like a coalition of any sort that is making any changes but the aggressive religions yeah um that are that are inherently anti-Christian like in the in the in the Talmud in Judaism they they teach in in Israel that you know Christ is burning in feces well in hell okay well that that is a often quoted but completely out of context thing and I mean we can we can chat about the Talmud as well but there's from a practical standpoint looking at a country with 17 million people versus the two billion Muslims out there I just I I don't I don't care what is written in the Talmud I care what Muslims are actually doing.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

You don't see a whole lot of Jews going around and killing people because of their disappointment with you know the because they because in their religion they hate somebody else. It's just it's not happening but what we do see is an awful lot of attacks happening by Muslims out there. And it makes sense because if you actually read the Quran which I have there is I this is also why I I I tend to at least occasionally post that guys we need to stop treating Islam like a religion because it's not a religion it is a political system that incorporates a religious devotion to the leadership of that religion. This is a lot closer to USSR style communism than it is to any other religion that's out there. Because it it no other religion incorpor incorporates the the sort of political commandments that you get in Islam and conquest of the entire world is right there front and center. And so you know letting people have different religions different opinions it's all great. However what if you have a communist that that just says hey communism is a religion you have to treat it just like every other religion in the US I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually their tactic.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Yeah I will say well be I will say that that is Muslims are incredibly dangerous and but they're dangerous in a different way like there's in my eyes they're I I personally believe that Judaism and Islam are like two sides of the same coin but they're but they are polar opposites. One is is through actually they're both kind of this way but in in Islam it they I mean they're explicitly directed to to lie in order to achieve power. And once they achieve power that's when they that's when they act and but Islam has led to a lot of inbreeding and they've fundamentally lowered a significant portion of their population they lowered the IQ of a significant portion of their population due to that.

SPEAKER_00 25:59

It is incredibly popular to get with your cousin yeah and I think it's over 50% in in uh Pakistan.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Yeah it's it's a lot it is a it is a significant amount and it's it's led to a sharp IQ decline. So I personally see Islam is they're dangerous in a way that that you would imagine like a zombie horde right like it's it's sheer numbers they're not going to be super effective alone but when they get together that's when you have serious issues so that that's the danger that I see with Islam in in America is is just the the sheer numbers that we're allowing to come over and and create their own societies within our cities and enact their own rules and and tolerate that that belief is is definitely a a giant mistake.

SPEAKER_00 27:08

They're taking over New York and we see that like I'm sure you've seen the videos on X. I I sure we see much of the same stuff on X of like Times Square being taken over and blocked off for Muslim prayers. Yep absolutely like and it's one of the most spots in New York that that you know we've seen in movies for the last hundred years. I don't know if you ever visited there but it's definitely iconic it and and they're literally just taking it over and and they're doing it not because they don't have any other place to do it. There's tons of mosques in New York right now in fact I remember there's a big controversy about there being a mosque built on a part of what used to be World Trade Center

Muslim Enclaves And Voting Power

SPEAKER_00 27:54

on that territory. Which you know happened they won in court but they're doing it specifically to show the power that they're able to wield and we've got our own stuff happening here in Texas in Dallas there's a fairly large community that was built up in Plano which is north of Dallas where there was a development done with a mosque in the middle of the development and even though they're not technically blocking non-Muslims from buying land but the way it's set up is that you know how you have like private communities will have fees for your neighborhood association fees kind of thing well the part of the fee there goes to cover and pay for the mosque. So you think you're gonna want to move in there if you're you're gonna be paying a fee every no so effectively it's a nice way to basically culturally politically and ethnically and certainly religiously to isolate that whole area and make this development be a uh very mono culture kind of place and that's how London ended up happening as well it's like you you get this little community and it starts to grow around the edges. What about the Muslims that couldn't buy a house there were they're gonna still want to buy a house close by right because the whole Muslim area you got Muslim stores you got Muslim you know what do you call it halal meat shops you got Middle Eastern food so I I totally like it's logically it all totally makes sense. So you you get these communities to start growing but here's the difference between those communities the Muslim ones and most other cultures you know whether it's like Asian immigrants coming over or whatever these Muslim communities have a shit ton of kids and the average American Christian has one and a half kids and they don't vote.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Well that's like 40% of of Christians vote. It's insane it's it I it's it's an incredibly maybe maybe it was 60 maybe it was 40% didn't 40% didn't participate. So I think it maybe 60% actually did vote. But it's it's still a very low portion because I mean in Christianity the way it's been boiled down or or watered down I should say over the years is that you know politics and religion are separate. But they only treat that with Christianity. It is only Christianity that has that injected into the belief is that your religion should stay out of of politics unless you're Muslim or unless you're Jewish or you know and I mean you see like people like Randy Fine who will go up and say you know we should that we need to protect Israel and you'll see I can't remember her name one of the squad you know one of the four the Muslim women who married brother Ilhan Omar you know Illan Omar. Yeah she'll come out and say you know basically the same thing because she's Muslim and and and it's but but for some reason with Christianity everybody kind of touched that and they're like no no you can't do that because you're Christian and it's been demonized watered down and basically separated from even participating in our government and it's it's sad to see.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

So I think part of it's cultural though because what what you have with with a lot of these groups including the ones in the Minnesota is not just that they're Muslims they have that in common but they also the vast majority of them have Somali ancestry which and I say it that way because at this point I think most of them actually been born in the U.S. This has been happening for over 20 years to Minnesota so you have a lot of the the Muslim community in Minnesota which you could have referred to as the the Somali community I guess you technically still can but but saying that with little astras because they all had a lot of kids over the last 20 years and all those kids were born in the US so they're not from Somalia like the early yeah parts of that generation so they're Americans but they have instilled non-American values in them. They've instilled these values to hate American values in fact a lot of them it's a they they live in the American they were born in America then they hate America yeah it's it's a failure to enforce assimilation so if you look at the Native Americans right like I I was talking I don't know if I talked about this on on the podcast last night but Tim Cass.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

Yeah the the Amish community their base they're th they thrive because they kind of segregated themselves and I believed that Native Americans should have been something like that you know with their on their reservations but they never were yeah the attempt that our ancestors had with the Native Americans was basically to bring the Native Americans their kids away from their parents put them in in like re-education camps. Yeah yeah right they they basically taught them Christianity and it was their goal was to kill the savage and save the man now it sounds ways to do that yeah well yeah it sounds bad and and you know there it wasn't

Citizenship Loopholes And Cultural Fragmentation

SPEAKER_01 33:44

necessarily it wasn't nice I'll say that but looking back at that I understand why they did that because I see communities like the Somalians and you know various communities around that that don't go through that kind of assimilation. They don't go through that forced assimilation and they're now trying to create you know their own Muslim communities in America and that's not what America is supposed to be. You're supposed to be able to come here from any country and become an American you are not supposed to come over here and stay a Somalian. Yep it's it is the exact opposite of what is happening today. So I actually see those camps where they that where they force Native Americans into Christianity into these Christian camps to kill the savage and save the man I see that as better than what is going on today where we just we we bring over hordes of third worlders and allow them to create their own communities within our country and extract wealth from taxpaying hardworking Americans shrinking the middle class and separating or I would say closing in the distance between the lower and middle class and furthering the distance from the middle class to the upper class.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Well and I think that certainly happened in California with Mexicans you know 80 years ago when there was a large migration legal or illegal either way of people from Mexico to California partly because California was growing like crazy boom times and they needed as much labor as possible.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

And so what you ended up getting is not people that were moving to the US from Mexico to become Americans but Mexicans that were working in America to make more money that money goes back to their families in Mexico they have kids here those kids become Americans by the way horrible Supreme Court decision on that the birthright citizenship is retarded oh it's nonsense yeah I agree it's not I fully agree with you it was that we have literal documents from that era when that bill is written talking about what the intent was and it was not the intent for anybody traveling here from China and having uh who's pregnant and then having a kid to have that kid become an automatic American that was yeah and then and then not only that like they're born here they get their documents and then they bring them back to China raise them in China completely and ship them back over here when they're at college age get a scholarship to get basically go to college for free and then you know they're they're completely and 100% Chinese except for the fact that they were an anchor baby born here it is a technicality that has been exploited and for some reason our Supreme Court completely dropped the ball even though we have a conservative Supreme Court no they failed they dropped the ball completely it is it it and and yeah it's it's going to it's going to further destroy the culture of Americanism.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

Yeah and I hope they don't uh fumble this next case coming up that'll will hopefully mean you guys get your gun rights back that prevents states from imposing laws restricting things like AR-15s and other firearms because they're they're all protected by the Second Amendment that there is no exclusion cut out there for state to say yes but we don't like these guns and therefore we're not going to be enforcing the Second Amendment on them.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

Well yeah not only is go ahead finish up and then I got an off topic question for you. Okay not only is it unconstitutional by the federal constitution but in the Washington state constitution it is deeply unconstitutional. Article one section 24 of the Washington state constitution declares that the the right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired. They didn't even want it impaired here. And Article 1 section 29 of the Washington state constitution declares that that unless it is explicitly written the Constitution is the law of the land and has to be followed and it is not in any of the laws explicitly written that those laws override our constitution they're all unconstitutional laws through our own Washington state constitution and the federal second amendment but for some reason for some reason they just pass it and they just declare that it's okay yeah yeah it's it it's nuts I mean that's like I said there's there's there are many reasons but that's probably one of the biggest ones why I could never live in Washington state as just the crazy laws you guys have there. Okay so here's my off topic question for you and that is casinos good bad or depends it they could have been they could be fine you know it's it's it can be an like gambling is an addiction just like anything else but it's also you can control yourself and if if people can't then they should stay away from them. It's similar to alcohol you know I'm fairly libertarian on casinos but the problem that comes into place is the problem of mankind's spirit of his heart you know it like there's there's no difference between the corruption of our state government and the corruption of the tribal leaders that we have running casinos. Once all that money comes in the the corruption follows quickly

Casinos And Reservation Economics

SPEAKER_01 39:29

and so the in a lot of in a lot of the ways the casino money goes to waste or goes to fraud or goes to you know corrupt tendencies and it's just so I mean anywhere where you inject money corruption's going to to follow closely so but it's also voluntary for for the people so you know it I I think that it should be available but unfortunately it's it's I mean there's not really much good that comes from it. So I wouldn't endorse going to a casino I've more in terms of casinos that you know benefiting tribes. Yeah I mean well see that's that's a whole different thing because something like the POLUP tribe right here in Washington state yep they the tribal members receive about two thousand dollars a month per tribal member yep and in some cases that's good but in some in most cases that money is is wasted or it creates dependency it creates a sense of comfort to where people don't they don't have the drive to thrive anymore and they settle for living on a reservation they settle for living in squalor and spending their money on alcohol and and drugs and then they tend to waste their life. So when you say benefiting tribes the unfortunate part about that is that a lot of the tribes have created little socialist reservations and it's led to the reservations being the most poor societies I would say the most poor areas in our societies today. And it's been that way for for decades on decades. I mean Russell Means was talking about this in the in the 90s to Congress basically saying you want to see the poorest communities in America go look at a reservation and it's not because the lack of money I mean the federal the the federally recognized tribes receive $33 billion a year of annual tax dollars and that that doesn't include the casino money that's that's the federal tax dollars that are given to the tribes each year $33 billion. If that's not enough money to make a community thrive then there's no amount of money that's going to make a community thrive because it's not a money problem. The money makes people complacent and it it stops them from being who they could be if they were trying to make it on their own. But the socialist ideals that the that the reservations have adopted have actually squandered and hurt their people more so than than helped.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Do you think that I concept of a reservation should just be abolished at this point should they just privatize that property amongst the members make it individual ownership and just treat everybody like they're normal Americans.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

I mean to be honest I've been leaning towards that I don't know what kind of process it would take to flesh that out but I think in the long run it would definitely be better for Native Americans to become just Americans and to just assimilate and to like they can keep their culture alive. Right, you know but the reservations aren't keeping the culture alive the reservations are are drowning their I mean there just was a story in Arizona about how in I don't remember what tribe it was, but they were basically like a rehabilitation center. And it turns out that they've been just either they've been disappearing natives or forcing people or forcing natives into these rehabs and and holding them there like they're in prison in order to get money. There's over 2,000 missing Native Americans who've gone to that rehab center. And yeah it's it's a giant scandal so I don't see how reservations are benefiting like I I like the idea of sovereignty. I like the idea that you don't have to be compelled to to listen to the ridiculous rules of the federal government but but then I just look at a smaller even more corrupt government of the tribes and it's so I I don't know it's it doesn't seem like it's been benefiting the natives.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

Yeah that's that's an interesting interesting point. So in Minnesota you know there's a very large Sioux contingent. So the the Dakota Lakota and the the Sioux are spread all over the state in the North and South Dakota. And so there's certainly quite a few different tribes but a lot of them have very large reservations and we're talking hundreds of miles per direction of the reservation and so sometimes you have a road that'll just have a sign that you're now entering reservation territory and then you'll you'll exit 50 miles down the road or something. But what I my experience living there and going I used to camp a lot so I go I go to a lot of these places next to reservations and stuff. And the the uplift that opening up a casino brings to a reservation was beyond night and day. I mean basically one step away from trailer park looking reservation and then you go there five years later when they've opened up just a small little casino And you see brand new construction of two-story houses. You know, you see a lot of improvements, a lot of a lot of the money that is coming into the gambling being put to use to and again, maybe it's not everybody, maybe there's corruption. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist by any stretch. But it did seem like the money from gambling was making a much bigger difference than anything that the federal government was doing. Like the Bureau of Indian Affairs and stuff was not doing shit.

SPEAKER_01 45:20

Yeah, and and a lot of that's on the natives. Like money can help. It certainly can. There's no doubt about that. But a lot of the times it it creates dependency. So the first generation that inherits that that kind of wealth will generally spend it more wisely than the next generation, or the next generation that just you know, their parents have always gotten it, now they always get this monthly money. It tends to squander. That's why the the top the top companies in the United States only last three generations. It's always interchanging because by the third generation, it's everything's taken for granted and it gets run into the ground. And that's it's the same thing with with the dependence on the monthly handouts that the tribal members get. So so you're you're I I wouldn't doubt that you're right that that casino with that boost of money helped that first generation. Yeah. But you look two or three generations down the road, yeah, that's that's when it becomes a serious problem.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

No, you're I think you're absolutely right because I remember talking. So I used to go to a gun range in a reservation that was really close to where I lived. I was a member at the gun range, and they're it's actually one of the nicest gun ranges in in the area. And so talking to oh, I can hear a little gremlin there next, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

Yeah, yeah, my son just joined in. That's usually my signal. Yeah, he did.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

We'll wrap up. But I remember one of the guys there, one of the tribe members that was an older guy, talking about kind of bitching, frankly, to me, about the fact that as the casino got really successful, this is not the one I was mentioning before, this is a different one. This one's the closest casino to the actual Minneapolis area. It's called Mystic Lake. And I when I was in high school, they just started building it. And you know, it it grew from a little well, not a little, but small-ish casino to a casino with a 12-story hotel and I don't know how many thousands, probably fifteen thousand slot machines, over a hundred poker tables, and this was just like it got huge. And so they had they were making money hand over fist, because they the actual tribe was only like four hundred people. And so they he was complaining to me about his kids, and how they're getting about thirty thousand dollars a month, and how they have no clue what the value of money is, because they started getting their m that money pretty much as soon as they became adults, and you know, he spent most of his life living on the cheap, and then you know, they they after the casino, the money started rolling in. But when you're getting literally like over a hundred thousand dollars a month coming in, it's I think it's pretty hard to try and keep people from letting some of the worst tendencies of humans get in the way as well. I don't care what whether they're Native Americans or any anything else.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

Yeah, look at lottery winners, it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 48:27

Yeah, most of them don't end up being stockholders, you know.

SPEAKER_01 48:32

No, no, most of them like squander all of their money, regardless of how much they win within 10 years. It's it's insane. And and it's you know, it's the same thing with reservations and the the entitlement it creates, and that's you know, one of the main reasons why socialism will never work in this country. It is proven over and over and over and over again throughout human history, it's proven today on the reservations, is it's proven through the lottery. But for some reason, we still believe that if only if if if only we were just given money, we would be better off. And that's just not

Socialism Versus The Frontier Mindset

SPEAKER_01 49:04

how the world works, that's not how human nature works, and that's not the way for a society to thrive. I mean, the Americanism that created this country, that it was it was the spirit of the frontier, the wanting to find to find out what you could become if only you set out into the wilderness where you never knew what you were going to find and what you could what you could be and what you have to overcome. I mean, that's what built America, and that's why it's it still stands today as one of the greatest nations, actually, I would say the greatest nation in human history that we know of. But but we are going to reach an end game here if we don't change our ways, if we fall back into the the ideals of of socialism and entitlement and believing that that the the greatest nation ever created on God's green earth, that that we're entitled to it instead of accepting the responsibility of protecting it, then we will fall, just like every other nation in human history. It is in mankind's unfortunate spirit, unfortunately flawed spirit that that we fall into those tendencies. And I and I hope that we can kind of steer this back and away from where we've been heading because we have a lot of work to do, but it's not hopeless. We we can still I'm not Europe can still save this nation. Yeah, yeah. We've got a lot of land here. We we have a lot of land, we have a lot of area to to kind of take care of, and and if we need to to kind of create refuge. So I don't think that the American spirit can be killed or destroyed that easily. So it may be it may be different than what we have seen for the last 250 years, but I think regardless of the trials and tribulations that we're set to go through, uh I believe that we can make it through it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

Well, and that's a good note to end on. I can I can definitely hear a higher priority there for you in the background. Totally understandable. Let the folks know where they can find you.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

You can find me on X at Law Native Patriot. That's L A Native Patriot. I am on all of the platforms, you know, Instagram, TikTok, not Facebook actually, but I don't really use those very much. So I wouldn't I won't really be responding to anything uh except on X. So if you're if you're on X, give shoot me a follow and subscribe if you can. And let's let's save this country, man.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

And you you were on Timcast last night, and then any other appearances coming up?

SPEAKER_01 51:32

Maybe it's it's in the works.

SPEAKER_00 51:34

So we'll we'll yeah, just follow him on X and you'll find out the next place. What you guys are missing right now is he he sounds like an average white dude. He looks like the best, hottest, uh, most amazing actor-looking

Where To Find Native Patriot

SPEAKER_00 51:49

version of Tonto you've ever seen. I mean, dude, I'm I'm a bald, you know, white dude. I'm looking at your hair and I'm like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

Yeah, man, that's crazy. I'll tell you that much.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

Yeah, you got the genetics for it, is what you got.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

Yeah, that's for sure. And and you know, I'm only I'm only half native, so uh I got some from my whites from the hair part.

SPEAKER_00 52:11

Clearly, not from a white guy.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

That's for sure, because my my white grandfather was was a bald man, so uh I might be related to him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:24

Well I appreciate me jumping on last minute. It was fun. I'm sure we'll chat again. And I'm sure people will be watching even more of your Rise on X. I've definitely enjoyed seeing you getting bigger and bigger because you you got the right message, brother.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

I appreciate that, Gene. And yeah, I'll I'll be sure to come back on. Just shoot me an invite and we'll make it work.

SPEAKER_00 52:46

All right. Sounds like a plan.

SPEAKER_01 52:47

All right, brother.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

Take care.

SPEAKER_01 52:49

Yeah, thank you.