Catching Up On The Lingering Cough

SPEAKER_05 0:25

Well, how'd you been? How are you today? Oh, Gene, I'm doing pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Yeah, well, that's good. Oh. How's your cold flu or whatever the hell you had?

SPEAKER_04 0:36

Ah, it this cough is lingering, dude.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

But I think we got the same thing because that's exactly what I was gonna say. Yeah. Yeah, like the cold flu, whatever, like the nose drippy symptoms, all that real fast. It's three days start to finish. But I still have that little lingering cough, especially when I first get up in the morning. But then even throughout the day, occasionally I just, you know, if I'm recording a video or something, I gotta hit the pause button and take a quick cough.

SPEAKER_04 1:08

Yeah, that part of it is saying in. That's what I've noticed is when I'm talking, right? Yeah. That's you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

And it's not like it's winter, so the air isn't dry, so it's not that. Yeah, yeah. Must be super COVID or something, huh? Fucking Fauci, man. Yeah, good demonstration. I'm glad you're demoing that for us.

SPEAKER_05 1:33

I plead the fifth. Fucking motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04 1:37

On the on the Visa Council, I plead the fifth. Uh-huh. Motherfucker. He they I hope they nail him on uh content.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

God, I really do too. I I mean I

Fauci Hearing And Fifth Amendment Talk

SPEAKER_00 1:47

my comments are usually on videos of like uh he's killed more people than Mengele. Probably he is literally the most evil medical person in the world in the history of the history of the world. It is insane. The guy that created the disease that killed more people than well, I guess the Spanish fluke killed more, but as far as diseases that were fully preventable, like this is not some weird Ebola, somebody went and fucked the monkey shit. This is like a literally a military biological weapon that he absolutely was in charge of, no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_04 2:37

I'd classified as a biological weapon, I'd classify reckless research.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Yeah, paid for by military, yes, exactly. And Fauci, not only did he lie to presidents, I mean, really one president that I care about, but I'm sure he lied to both of them. But you know, he's been lying about everything for a decade.

SPEAKER_04 3:03

He did this during the 80s, during the AIDS pandemic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the first time.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

That was the first time, absolutely. Yeah, he was thinking he was killing gay dudes back then. And how is he still a doctor? How did he not lose his medical license? People lose their licenses for doing less. Good question. I really I mean that tells you something about the the medical industry when they don't yank his license after all he did.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

So yeah, I'm I'm pretty uh I'm I guess I'm not surprised, but I am angry. Well, as you should be.

SPEAKER_04 3:49

Like everyone should be pissed off. And the smug little bastard just sitting in there doing what he did.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Did you watch the video where he ignores the people that are like behind them? The senator says, if you were, you know, it watched a relative die or whatever, can you stand up? People in the audience stand up and he's like, Can you just turn around?

unknown 4:11

No.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

I on the advice of my attorney, I uh plead the and his lawyer, right? His lawyer Weasel, totally, but I you know that I expect.

SPEAKER_04 4:21

Right, but he he was directed not to sit at the table, sat at the table and tried to talk multiple times until they finally had to drag him out of there.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Yeah, absolutely. And I honestly, if it was me there, I don't know. I would start making arguments saying, look, first of all, a preemptive pardon is not a thing. So, no, he does not have immunity to prosecution. It needs to be challenged, and the it's frankly needs to be a good one.

SPEAKER_05 4:52

It needs to be brought up to the Supreme Court.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Yeah, it needs to be brought up to the Supreme Court. The second thing is that pardon is against government meaning executive branch. It is there it there's zero application of the Fifth Amendment or that pardon when it comes to Congress. I didn't like it back when the uh what the hell is it called? The ohly north did it. I didn't like it back then. I still don't like it. I think that it's fine to use in court during a criminal procedure, like that's what it's for, but it it should not be a thing to plead the fifth in front of Congress. Like that should not be a thing. Because there Congress isn't suing you, Congress is working on behalf of the entire country to get to the bottom of facts. So this is like you literally have no it is considered a legal proceeding.

SPEAKER_04 6:01

So there is that. But here's the thing if he believes the pardon's gonna hold up, yeah, he has no right to plead the fifth. He can be compelled because he is no longer facing those consequences. Yep. So what that kind of tells me is he doesn't think that pardon's gonna hold up. Everybody was saying, well, no, he's just trying to avoid a perjury trap, this, that, and the other. Well, first of all, perjury is much more defensible than full-on contempt, which he displayed. Like if they actually pull him up on contempt charges, there is no argument here. He's in contempt of Congress. So Yeah, but what I mean, the only defense against the contempt charge would be to say the pardon isn't valid. So like the he's in this trap of I'm fucked. And you gotta remember how old the dude is. If he goes to jail, he's dying in no, he's in his 80s. Oh, is he in his 80s already? Okay. If he get if he goes to jail, he will probably die in jail.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Yeah, let's hope so. I mean, the fucker just deserves no leniency as far as I'm concerned.

SPEAKER_04 7:03

Well, you know, I he might get the pedo treatment in in jail for as pissed off as I think a lot of people are at him.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 7:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

It's uh absolutely disgusting, is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 7:21

Yep. No, but I thought it was good. I think the people crying over Congress asking him questions based off of a diary, which why the fuck did he write this stuff? Oh my god. What's gonna be public record?

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Yeah, and again, this is this is clearly a guy who thinks he's above the law, above reproach, above everything.

SPEAKER_04 7:44

Narcissistic to the extreme, absolutely, and narcissism is way overblown these days and thrown around way too much, especially by women. But well, all women are narcissists.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

No, but they're claiming men are, yeah. But that they're doing that because it's projection, because they they are narcissists, so they're obviously claiming that um it's the men that are narcissists. No, men given a total freedom, are not narcissists because they will live in messy houses and play video games. That's not what a narcissist does. Narcissist has to have an audience. Men don't give a shit about an audience.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

Well, Bill Maher, I think, put it absolutely great. He said that this was the most embarrassing release of anything that he has seen since Anthony Wiener got caught sending a dick pic to a college student.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

Oh, I'd say it's more embarrassing than that. That's what his point Yeah, that's his point. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Bill Maher is I mean, the guy probably will vote Republican in the next election at this point.

SPEAKER_04 8:58

Because he has been I mean he went off on the DSA. Yeah, too. Yeah. You know, calling them flat out communists, which they are. But yeah, no, I think he's very likely to vote for JD or Marco.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Yeah, yeah, totally. And and I think there's a growing contingent of I guess you would used to would have been referring to him as a moderate Democrat. Basically, the Clinton, the Bill Clinton Democrats. I think they're all getting fed up with what's going on in their party. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:42

Well, I think the Democratic Party is splitting, it's bifurcating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're in such financial dire straits that I mean they're gonna have to split and make two parties.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

They really are. Well, but but I think already we're seeing people elected from the the Socialist Party. Yes, the DSA folks. Yeah. Mandami being the most prominent. Oh, by far, yeah. Yeah. But he's also jihadist, so that we got a double whammy there. But this is not new. This is literally how Iran was created. It was a confluence of jihadists and communists. Okay, yes. They're using the same plan in the US now. The jihad communist plan.

SPEAKER_04 10:33

The the communists are just the useful idiots for the jihadists.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But unfortunately, we have a lot of college students.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

We do.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

AKA useful idiots.

SPEAKER_04 10:47

Who think, you know, gays for Palestine is a reasonable thing.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

Who don't know anything about anything except pronouns. Well, and here's the thing.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

I've seen the LGBTQ, whatever AA plus, you know, yeah, whatever. Community holding up Iran as a bastion for trans rights. Yeah. What they don't realize is the reason why there are so many trans trans people in Iran is because that's not considered homosexual in Iran, which is a fucked in the head opinion, in my opinion, but whatever.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

Yeah. Well, it's the only way they get around not practicing homosexuality where while fucking little boys. I mean, it's either goats or boys, right? That's that's how those countries work. Yeah, which I just I don't get it. I I I'm sorry, I have never been around. They're not into women. They're not into women. What do they do with women? They put them in a uh a black sack. They don't want to look at women because they don't like women. They're only into men. Islam is a gay religion. Well the Talmud's not far off, dude. Oh, whatever. You talk about the Talmud like you fucking read it, dude. You need to stop doing that. What makes you think I haven't? Because I know you haven't.

SPEAKER_05 12:17

I actually have read uh quite a bit of the Talmud, and I've read through a ton of the uh the Encyclopedia Judaica.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 12:33

Oh man. So Hoplite Industries is selling a kit that's pretty damn cool. And who are they? They're a night vision company. And they've got a kit that they're doing for under they say they're gonna be doing it for under 4K, but we'll see what the price. I mean, it may be, you know, 3999999. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. But they've got a night even at 4K, if they make it at 4K, this is a good price. Because they've got 5k, it's a good price. They've got a PVS 14, they've got a HIR 640M thermal, a level 3A ballistic helmet, and the mount and hearing protection with comms for 4K.

Budget Night Vision Kits Get Real

SPEAKER_04 13:21

Like that's dope.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Yeah, I mean, there's gotta be something to that, or prices just went down that much because when I bought my thermal, it was 4800 bucks just for the thermal. When I bought my Pv14, which I returned incidentally, but when I bought that, it was 5800, and that was a cheap one. That was like a not a great quality one. And so the kit normally, like, and by normally I mean what two years ago? When were you talking about all this shit? It was probably two years ago, right? It was a couple of years back, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

Yeah, when I got my digital stuff.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

It was basically a ten thousand dollar kit. Now, I you know, I I did like the getting a Wendy helmet and not a no-brain, no name one, but still, like that whole kit is prohibitively expensive for the average person. You're not gonna spend what you could spend on a used car on something that just in case the country goes to civil war, that you've got. I mean, it's just it's not something most people have disposable income to do. Well, at five grand or even four grand, even better, now you're getting into territory where you could kind of justify it, even if it's a just in case.

SPEAKER_04 14:41

Well, not just a just in case, because like hog hunting and stuff, right? At night. You're gonna be wearing a helmet hog hunting? Okay. As a mount for versus a skull crusher? Absolutely. Have you ever tried to wear night vision or thermal with a elastic band mount?

SPEAKER_00 14:58

It's I mean, when I'm playing video games, I'm always wearing the skull crusher because it's lighter. Yes, because it's not actually physically on your head. Well, it's on my character's head, it's the same thing. You gotta respect the uh character, man. You gotta respect the character. Yeah, the skull crusher, yeah. I mean, the helmets are actually pretty damn light these days. So you're talking about a difference of that that's maybe a pound and a half.

SPEAKER_04 15:27

And you don't have to have a ballistic helmet. Because here's something people don't think about when they think about body armor. Yeah, most body armor is meant to help you survive when you have a good trauma medicine center around. If you are in civil war or a prepper, I'm sorry, but body armor becomes less useful because, yeah, are you really gonna have to be?

SPEAKER_00 15:52

You got in a larger group of people, most of whom knows. You got a really good surgery.

SPEAKER_04 16:01

Yeah, but one of the things you can do, and what I've done for my night vision that I currently have and use is I've just got a bump helmet. I've got a good bump helmet, but I've got a bump helmet. Yep, and the reason why is as a better mounting platform than the skull crusher, that's all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

Yeah, and there are there are like that's definitely a much cheaper alternative as well.

SPEAKER_04 16:27

Yeah, it's lighter and cheaper. Yeah, so Newsweek wrote a shocking article and headline.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:36

Trump was right.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

What wait, the publication Newsweek said this?

SPEAKER_04 16:42

I'm finding it hard to believe. Nope. It's on their website. Link in link in our uh little show notes. Trump was right about Venezuela and the oil recovery at being way faster than all the experts predicted.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Wow. It's uh, I mean, like I'm not surprised that he was right. I'm I'm surprised that the admittance.

SPEAKER_05 17:01

Yeah, it's the story here isn't that Trump was right, right? It isn't the Venezuelan oil, it's that Newsweek is admitting it.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

Uh-huh. Exactly. That's that is amazing. As that black dude who's uh very pro-white says, that's amazing.

Newsweek Admits Trump Was Right

SPEAKER_00 17:17

Uh-huh. You know the guy I'm talking about. That's uh that's a slave. He was born a slave or something.

SPEAKER_04 17:23

Yeah, but by the way, I want to talk and tell me when you want to, but I want to talk about Georgia and Minnesota.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Okay. Uh oh, you're talking about the water facility you hack stuff, yeah. Well, before we do that, so I I mentioned what's his face, Bill Maher. Bill Maher on a recent episode brought up that the Communist Control Act is still in force. It's technically Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

Communists do not have civil rights.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Bill Maher, and again, this is the part I'm underlining here, is the guy saying, you know, we need to start using this. I'm I'm telling you, like, I did not think that like I I knew that Trump would win the last election because the wave was so huge, but I didn't see as many people

Bill Maher And A Splitting Party

SPEAKER_00 18:17

that are. I mean, we Bill Mars famous for donating a million dollars to Hillary before that, you know, what was it, eight years ago? He he did a million dollar donation tour. And now this is the guy that's basically talking about how we need to start prosecuting communists again. It's an amazing world we live in, dude.

SPEAKER_04 18:41

Yeah. I'm I'm happy to see. I mean, Bill Maher really could like he could seriously go run for office and lead the new Democratic Party and split off of the City.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

He's a governor of California as a Republican, yeah, or as a very moderate Democrat. Or Democrat. I mean, it doesn't matter. He gets both sides voting for him because he is the most rational of the liberals at this point. And I think plenty of Republicans would be happy to vote for him in California. Now, nationally, I don't think he's quite there yet, but for California, absolutely, man. That's where he lives. But he is, see, when when he was giving money to Hillary, he was. I I think most people would see him as a a lefty, maybe not a far left lefty, not a crazy lefty, but definitely quite a ways on the left. I don't think his positions have changed. He's still pro-pot, he's still pro-abortion, but he is compared to the current Mundami left, with AOC probably being the presidential candidate left, he is absolutely right of center. Without sh changing his position. And I think this is it's the same thing with Brett Weinstein, the you know, the guy that that was clearly a liberal professor up in Washington State in Evergreen, that ended up having to run for his life because there was a a gang of students so pissed off with him for coming to work on only Black People Day that they were gonna lynch him. Like that guy who was arguing against all the COVID bullshit while it was happening and still considers himself to be a Democrat, he's talking about voting Republican. I was like the the left has so got the reservation. It's I'm gonna use the old-fashioned way of saying it, they're way off the fucking reservation. And I think it's it's gonna catch up. I hey, I just talked to an indigenous folk just a couple episodes ago, so I'm covered for next year.

SPEAKER_04 21:30

Cheating on me. Um yeah, speaking of, we're actually doing a big water project for the Navajo Nation that's truck currently trekking in water. Nice. So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

So up in uh South Dakota? No, New Mexico. Oh, New Mexico. Oh, that's right, Navajo. I was thinking Sioux for some reason. Yeah, Navajo, that would be uh uh right around Flax after, right?

SPEAKER_04 21:59

Uh no, not in Arizona, it's in New Mexico. But where am I thinking of? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

No, not who's uh who's on who's in Arizona? Because there's definitely a reservation up there that I've gone to.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

No clue. I can't remember which one. Anyway, yeah, on with this. So the media is full of shit.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Taos, Taos, New Mexico.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

The media is full of shit. Tim Poole is a moron on some. Items here. Yeah. Like I like Tim. I used to like Tim. I I am an expert in OT cybersecurity. This is what I do for a living. Right. And I'm pretty damn good at it and well known in the industry. Or you fool a lot of people one or the other. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. For the last 20 years, I've been just a total fucking fraud.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

Well, I've been doing it for 30, so there you go.

SPEAKER_04 22:51

Anyway, everybody's giving attribution to Iran, EPA, water Isaac, like I've been on these calls, I've been on the meetings, have some

Water Treatment Cyberattacks In Plain Sight

SPEAKER_04 23:02

involvement with some of the sites hit and all that. But here's what I'll say. I never go to attribution because I don't care about attribution. Whoever's attacking me is I don't care. I just care about the attack and what techniques and how to stop them. But what I'll say is part of what makes me think it could have been a RAN is this is the lowest hanging fruit I've ever fucking seen. Like shit was directly connected to the internet and on Shodan. If you in 2026, if you're running facilities and can't be bothered to run a Shodan search for your known IP range to see what's going on, or put a firewall in place, or do these things, why are you surprised? Right. Yeah, this is this this is not some, oh my god, they're hitting our critical infrastructure amazing hack. This is, well, I'm surprised it hadn't happened already.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 23:57

So, but we here's the thing, and a lot of this can't disclose, but Georgia, Michigan, and several other states, not all of which have been publicly talked about yet, but Georgia and Michigan have, have been hit pretty hard on their water treatment facilities, resulting in boil water notices and some of the some of the wastewater treatment facilities discharging to rivers untreated stuff. So it it it it it has a lot of effects. And what I'll say is water treatment facilities, while they are not as directly or they have more of a direct impact than anything but electric on the critical infrastructures in a lot of ways, right? And you you can kill a lot of people, especially with wastewater and releasing untreated water.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

Yeah, which you know, you you decided to have a two-hour conversation on this topic with me when we weren't recording. So I'm glad you're talking about it finally now. Because I was, and because I'm not from OT side of cyber originally, so I was very surprised that you would consider electric not to be the top concern because that's what I would have defaulted to. But you're like, actually, you know, water is you could do a lot more damage to people with water.

SPEAKER_04 25:18

Well, here's the thing you can it electric can suck, and yes, you can kill people who have you know special needs and things like that, but your direct impact on healthy people, water is faster because you can only go so many days without water, and if you drink contaminated water, you will get sick. Yeah, so you I don't care how healthy you are, Montezuma's revenge is a fucking thing, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:42

I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is obviously there's a lot of little critters that can live in polluted water.

SPEAKER_04 25:52

Well, and here's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

Our Americans Wait, if you don't have 100 gallons of distilled water in your house, you're just not doing it right. But yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:01

You should have emergency water and filtration available. Yes. But what I'll say is Americans especially, we are very sensitive to a lot of the parasites that the rest of the world isn't because we've had such clean water for so long.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

That is totally true. Every time I've gone to Mexico with friends, they always get sick. I never get sick, I've never been sick in Mexico once. And I I attribute that to having you know spent my childhood in Russia. No, it's just shitty water in Russia. So I think a lot of that contaminants I would just, you know, developed antibodies for when I was young. Maybe. Because I don't I can't explain any other way. And when we're eating the same food, we're drinking the same stuff. I've only gotten sick to the point of throwing up while traveling only one time in my entire life, and that was in Costa Rica 25 years ago, and I know exactly from what I ate a mango off a tree. Okay. And you know, that was that was a cause of 24 hours of uh very unpleasantness. But that's about it. Everywhere else, and I again I when I've traveled with other people, there's a there's I probably an average, I was gonna say a high chance, but it's probably not high. It's probably an average chance of somebody getting food poisoning. I've just never gotten food poisoning in anywhere I've traveled. I've traveled quite a few countries.

SPEAKER_04 27:39

Well, the the point is this is a can this is a event that is of interest from a geopolitical sense because who do you think is responsible then? I I I I think it could be Iran because it's such a low-hanging fruit and it all all the But what about all the clearly Cyrillic alphabet and all this stuff?

SPEAKER_00 28:00

I mean, obviously it must be Russia, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:03

WikiLeaks Vault 7. This is why I don't do attribution. But what I would say is whatever group is doing it, it does appear to be the same group across all the facilities. The tactics and techniques they are consistent across all the attacks. Now so this isn't like coincidental. This is concerned.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

So part of your job or one of your supporters' job, but you you get on all the dark webs and see what's available and what people are sharing and all that. Somebody from your bit company do that? Yes, we have some threat intelligence aspect. Anything there that's directly related to this? I mean, I don't want details, I just want to see if there's anything. Like, has there been a big dump of like, here's all the places you guys should go attack if you don't like America? No, it's more like haha, look, we got into these facilities and here's what we did. Well, that's true. That makes that actually makes a lot of sense because the bragging part has to be there. Yeah. That totally makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 29:01

Yeah. So so the big takeaways here are we have so far up to five states impacted. Georgia and Michigan, or Minnesota rather, have been released publicly. The tactics and techniques are consistent across the attacks. And the real big takeaway is these are mostly smaller water utilities that have no money and have not put anything into cyber defense. They just haven't.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

Now, is is that a service your company offers? It is for smaller utilities. Sounds like maybe it was you guys that did this because you're trying to sell your sell your business.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

No, no, no. Actually, we do something kind of cool for the smaller utilities that don't have enough money. We're part of a broader regime with several partners doing a program where basically some of our software partners are giving their software away for free, and we're giving our services to these clients at cost because they're not gonna they're never they're never gonna spend the millions. So what we're doing is giving it to them at cost to fill out the sands top five. So writing a defense plan, secure, you know, having a secure defensible network architecture, things like that. Yep. And you know, for any use water utility or electric utility in North America, or well, not North America, but the United States and Canada, we're doing this. And you know, we uh selfishly, what we're doing is A, we're generating a hell of a lot of good PR around it. Yep. Then also we're getting retainer contracts with these customers so that when they do get a CapEx budget or something to go do something, we become the easy button, right? Obviously. So it it's it's and quite frankly, it keeps my people off overhead because instead of going on overhead or doing something like that, they can go grab one of these tasks. And while no, I'm not making money on it, it actually helps my overall margin because they're not hitting overhead.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Yeah. And uh you guys can probably uh write off some of this stuff, write some of your costs off against it as well. So it's it's like a win-win-win.

SPEAKER_04 31:20

Agreed. And the the the problem in the water market has always been hey, you've got all these hundred these thousands of small water utilities. How do you kind of aggregate them into something that's profitable? And this is my approach to that.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

Now, is power more consolidated than water?

SPEAKER_04 31:41

Oh, yeah. Yeah, you don't have as many small operators. Now, when you talk so what power generation is three different phases, much like oil and gas, right? You've got generation, you've got transmission, and then you've got distribution. You can argue that retail's in there, but they're kind of their own thing and deregulated in a lot of places. So in Texas, for example, generation is deregulated, transmission is still regulated, and distribution is regulated. Because you'll only have one company's line coming to your home, right? Now, when you get into the big cities, you'll have a big commercial player like Encore or Sherry Land or something like that doing transmission and distribution. But out in rural areas, you'll have co-ops. Those co-ops are the equivalent of a small water company, right? Yep. The co-ops and munis in transmission are you know mainly distribution. They're they have no money. But generation is is has been regulated. And as much as I don't like STEP, and as much as I don't like regulation, I have to admit, STIP has moved the needle tremendously, and the U.S. electric industry is the most protected of all of the critical infrastructure pieces by far. Transmission is regulated. So for instance, anything they spend on cybersecurity, they're gonna earn 10% when they go make their rate case at the POC.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 33:08

PUC, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

That makes sense. So really, what what would you say to the people living in those areas, though? I mean, the obvious, go buy water, have some water that's sitting in your house ready for emergencies. What else?

SPEAKER_04 33:27

Yeah, I mean, everybody here's here's a general thing I would say to everybody. If you're young, you're healthy, you you're like me, I have a little bit of food storage.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

You forgot the word or in between there, but yeah. What do you mean? Well, if you're healthy or you're like me. I'm healthy. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 33:51

I'm in pretty good health, dude.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

Should you literally talk about your issues every other day.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

That's new-ish, and it's you know, it's it's different. But anyway, my point is if

Simple Preparedness For Water Emergencies

SPEAKER_04 34:04

you're if you're not old or needing, you know, medical gear running and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

Yeah, the basic thing oh, medical gear. You mean you mean like CPAP?

SPEAKER_04 34:15

Well, that that's or you're on oxygen or an oxygen concentrator or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Oh, by the way, CPAP qualifies for the uh power thingy priority deal. I checked on that. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04 34:28

The point is have some water, have filtration, have a little bit of food, have a it doesn't have to be a whole home generator, but have a box of yeah, something where you can cook food, where you can heat water, where you can do these things. And, you know, maybe for a couple weeks or a month or whatever. And as long as you have those basic things, you're set for a hurricane, you're set for like this boil water notice that people are getting. You know, you're you're okay. You don't have to have years and you don't have to go full on prepper. You don't.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

It's fun. It is. You you should, but you don't have to it's an expensive hobby. Yeah, it it it can be, but it's uh it's a hobby that you can you know justify as being more practical than say Pokemon. Yes, or like or like virtual spaceships. Yeah, that's I mean you're still gonna spend the money on a hobby no matter what. It's just a question of which hobby. And this hobby I feel is like a it, you know, it like it's a dual use kind of thing. Like it's both for fun and for just in case.

SPEAKER_04 35:37

Yeah. So did you see the which I know we're trying not to say as much, but uh James O'Keefe's latest thing? Uh no, I I'm not so he went into bodega's undercover in New York and got bodega owners to sell him beer and put it as a food item for EBT. Oh, nice. Yeah. Well, that shouldn't be a surprise. So there's I that's happening nationwide. Yeah. It's not just the bodegas there.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

Exactly. But which by the way, his costumes are so ridiculously bad when he goes undercover. Oh, yeah. It's it's like, how do people not see who it is? Because they're not paying attention. It's literally the the you know, comedy

EBT Fraud And What Benefits Should Buy

SPEAKER_00 36:25

version of a guy putting on an absolutely fake plastic mustache and nothing else, and then nobody can recognize him. It's or Clark Kent with just put on the glasses, oh well, clearly not Superman. It's like, oh my god. You got they're not he's not a typical looking dude. He's tall, but he looks kind of gay, and you know, he's he's very peculiar looking. Like there's not a lot of people that kind of look like him, and yet he seems to do almost nothing to have to disguise himself. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 37:03

Well, anyway, I think we need to really look at our EBD system and how we how we handle this obvious fraud that's happening across the country.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

Let me ask you a question. Do you think there ought to be limits on the foods that are covered? Absolutely. Do you think like only diet soda should be paid for?

SPEAKER_04 37:30

I think that if you sign up for an EBT program, yeah, the government should just send you X amount of MREs per week. MRE's are expensive, man.

SPEAKER_00 37:41

We know that from personal experience. Yeah, we're to eat at McDonald's than to eat MREs.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

Right. But you don't get to go eat out on my dime. You don't get to get soda or candy, okay, or limit it to very basic beans, some protein, you know, just limit the basketball.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

And I think it used to be much more limited. Like you get government cheese and government rice, and that that, you know, mostly be it. It's really turned into just like a completely normal alternative payment program for everything lately. Uh, what did I see lately? There was I think it was an Arby's that had a sign on it that says EBT accepted.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

Which is just ridiculous. So why would you give someone diarrhea like that?

SPEAKER_00 38:28

Go to Arby's. Well, I mean you don't like Arby's? Not really. I mean, it's been a few years since I've had Arby's, but I always like their is this with the local uh is this your local hooker? They no. There's no I don't think there's an Arby's in Austin. Austin's weird about chains. They don't like chains. There's very few chains around. It's mostly Austin shit. But I remember they used to have these like little cream cheese stuffed fried pepper things. You know what I'm talking about? It's like a little mit Yeah. Those were really tasty. And then their actual roast beef was pretty bit. But the sauce, the Arby's roast beef sauce was.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

Which, by the way, that's what I was referring to on the hooker comment.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

What do you mean? Oh, oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. But I I just when I saw that an Arby's had a you know, we accept DBT thing in there, I thought, well, this is hilarious. I'm probably less concerned about that. I would be I I'd say it should be limited to food only. I don't want people buying cigarettes with it. However, or candy. Well, I don't think they ought to be buying things that are gonna add to the cost to the American taxpayer. So cigarettes would definitely add to the cost for medical stuff. Candy, potentially, but not necessarily. But I also don't want to be like acting as a parent and say, well, you know, you have to eat your vegetables and you can't eat you know, whatever people uh candy, because people like candy, right? So you you can't eat candy, you can only eat that that stuff. In the end, I think that the the biggest thing that's not there that should be on there is just a time limit. Like you get you get X number of years, two years, four years, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 40:43

And it should be a it should be a lifetime maximum.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

Exactly. It's a lifetime benefit for just in case you lose your job and it takes you a long time to find your next one. Like you know, it should be something that is a uh emergency use only while you're figuring out a long-term solution. And that long-term solution, incidentally, could be through churches, through private groups, it doesn't have to be through the government. But I I'm okay with having some form of safety net. So I guess that makes me a bad libertarian. But but it it has to be limited. You cannot have what we typically see in these news reports, you know, black women in their late 20s with five kids who've never had a single job in their entire life. And the government is the daddy.

SPEAKER_04 41:41

Well, you cannot do that. Unemployment, all this has to be limited if we're gonna have a government program. I think it would be far better if it were local churches and furnal groups and things like that that knew the people who were helping them. So that way they could say, hey Joe, you know, don't be a deadbeat dude. You gotta go get a job, all right? Yeah, and help them find a job and do all those things. Whenever you introduce bureaucracy, you introduce fraud. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

It is true that when in groups that are more tightly knit, like the Muslims, for example, who are taking over Texas, they are a lot better at doing this internally outside of government, except for the Somalis, who are technically also Muslims that are up in Minnesota, who instead figure out a way to leverage the government for that whole group so they can ship money back to Somalia. But the the Muslims that I met here in Texas, uh which we have way too many of, but that's be mostly because of the tech industry. Most of the Muslims that ended up in Texas were not refugees, they were going after the high-paying corporate jobs to take jobs away from Americans. Yeah. But Texas is one of the biggest states. California and Texas are literally the they probably combined represent 50% of all H1Bs in the country. I mean, it's a huge number of H1Bs here. And and it's not, you know, I mean like I'm friends with some of them. But I can I can say somebody's a nice person, but they shouldn't be here.

H1B Visas As A Cost Cutting Tool

SPEAKER_00 43:31

You know? It's it it is a system that has absolutely been abused. And we I know we've talked about the whole H1B thing before, too. The intent of it was so much smaller than the current execution. And not just smaller by the number of people, but smaller in its scope. It was created so that people that genuinely were needed in America could bypass the existing immigration lottery, which could take you know five years before you're allowed to come to the US.

SPEAKER_04 44:12

So look, I'm all for brain draining the rest of the world. Exactly. We gotta be at near full employment before we do that.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Yeah. Well, and again, I I think what it comes down to is the right. Rationale here. What most H1Bs serve as right now is a way for the companies to increase their profit. What the intent is, if there's a genuine lack of expertise in the particular like here's a where I would consider a legitimate use of H1Bs getting a bunch of Taiwanese people who have more experience than anyone else in the world with chip manufacture.

unknown 44:53

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

Getting them moved to the US. That's a legitimate use of H1B, in my opinion. And it's a limited use, meaning it may be only needed for a couple of years, and then all the ones that are worth moving have moved over. And so you have drained that part of the world for all the brains that are needed. And then you're building up the experience in the US post that. You know, I could hire basically five local Americans and then 35 Indians. That was the deal. So, you know, obviously I I hired the people that I that I could for that for that build out, but locally, but they were basically three managers, one for each shift, and then a couple of people for day shift. And everybody else was Indian. And I say Indian not because they were sitting in India in a remote SOC, but because they were literally flown from India to Minneapolis, which is where Americe is, to live and then work at Ameriprise as a contractor under a massive contract to I I think it was Tata or somebody, one of the Indian firms. But like you know that the payments that were made for those people were obviously smaller than what they would have had to pay for salaries to staff everybody in the U.S. So it was a cost-saving measure, but not by that much. And this is a part that I think a lot of people that aren't familiar with it firsthand miss is we're not talking about companies saying, well, if we have an American, we gotta pay him 50 bucks an hour, and if we get a Filipino guy, we pay him five dollars an hour. It's like a 95% savings or something, or a whatever, whatever that comes up, 90% savings. That's not what the vast majority of this is. Mostly it's the difference between paying $110,000 to an American or paying $95,000 to an Indian firm for a contractor. It's like a $15,000 difference that's basically 15% or less between what it would cost to have an American worker and have a foreign worker. And every fucking time the companies choose to save the money. Everything.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

But it's more than that because like I've had friends that worked for HCL under an H1B. Yep. And they were essentially a slave. They were treated by these companies. And the reason why they can get away with it is because if you lose that job, you lose the visa unless you can find in very short order another company to pick you up. Yeah. And these Indian firms like HCL collude. And absolutely, you know, it's it's just not it's not good for anybody.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

And and the sponsorship, like if you're the company that wants to do direct sponsorship, it's gonna be about 40 grand for you to do that. So some companies certainly are willing to do that. I mean, they're idiots mostly if I if you ask me, but but I've I've come into companies that did that, and I canceled those programs and we got rid of the uh foreign employees. And then you know, you always get the sob story about well, I just bought a house. Well, you shouldn't have bought a fucking house. Yeah, it's like not not my problem.

SPEAKER_04 48:58

Do you want to talk about the renewable energy, the Terra Factory being built out, or talk a little more about the the whatchamacallit?

SPEAKER_00 49:08

The flock cams. Okay, because I I I mean you were the the guy that was all in on that. But I've watched now a bunch. I'm I swear to god, I get video recommendations because you're watching that shit. Probably, yeah. I think so. Yeah, there's clearly a database connection in there somewhere. Oh well, if this guy's watching them, yeah, we should start sending some to this other dude because he'll start watching them too. So I've watched a bunch of these flock videos, and they're funny because the ones that I get aren't really the people bitching about it. The ones I get is like, so you have a project where you need to cut down an aluminum

Flock Cameras And The Digital Panopticon

SPEAKER_00 49:45

pole that you somehow have in the ground.

SPEAKER_05 49:47

I've seen a ton of those.

SPEAKER_00 49:48

Yeah. Um so what's the fastest way to do it? While they're talking about cutting aluminum pipe, we're literally watching him standing next to an active fly camera. Yep. So they're like testing different methods. What's and the guy that that was hilarious won the videos was he tried the reciprocating saw, he tried the the grinder, and then he tried a circular saw, and that was super fast. I didn't realize that they made blades to cut aluminum for those.

SPEAKER_04 50:22

Yeah, I I I watched that video as well. Okay, and yeah, you can get a metal cutting blade for a circular saw, and he's by far the fastest.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Yeah, that is amazingly fast. It's like five seconds. Yeah. There's a lot of protein. Did you see the one of the guy that that was standing next to a flock camera that was literally three feet from a house with a camera looking at the bedroom? I'm like, oh my god, how the fuck is that legal?

SPEAKER_04 50:51

Well, what I like is the protests that are going on across the nation where people are sitting in a lawn chair with the pole. No, right, and then holding up the sign right in front of the city. And they're just blocking the camera because they're not doing anything illegal.

SPEAKER_00 51:06

No, no, there's nothing that says you can't protest. In fact, it's a constitutionally guaranteed activity. Absolutely. And I don't believe the constitution protects cameras without a human attached. If you're a human with a camera, that is absolutely a protected activity. But a camera in and of itself with no human attached is not protected.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

Well, what I what I think people need to understand is we are moving more and more to a digital panopticon, and we've already gone way too far. And I I really think these flock cameras and the cell modems in cars and stuff like that is a step too far for a large majority of the population. Like I will not buy a vehicle that has a cellular modem in it, or at least one that I can't remove without it causing.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

You're driving an old car unless you remove it, yeah. Because they've been putting them in there for quite a few years now. Yeah, since 2020.

SPEAKER_04 52:08

Yeah. Yeah, it's uh they do drive an old vehicle. I've driven 2013 F-150.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

Now you do, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, so do I. I drive a 14. I'm happy. Yeah, that's I mean, I I need to get a little bit of work done, but it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 52:27

By the way, I tested out the uh OBD2 reader. That thing is awesome. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:31

The one you ordered the Kickstarter for. So it's available. Yeah, it's I thought it was a Kickstarter. Is it not a Kickstarter? Oh, it must, I think it said it was developed in the Kickstarter then, because I remember something Kickstarter related to it.

SPEAKER_04 52:44

But it it's fantastic. You can do tuning, you can do all sorts of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 52:49

Yeah. Yeah, no, they're they're cool. I haven't played with mine for a long time. I've got a uh physical one that is you know dedicated keypad thing in the in the car that I just keep there. And then I I have one that's Bluetooth that talks to the phone, and then you run the software on the phone to do all the stuff. That one actually is pretty cool because it can also put different gauges on the phone so you can see stuff that maybe your car doesn't normally display, like turbo boost or something, you know. Because I've got a turbo, but my car does not have a turbo boost style. So it's it is kind of neat. Back when I had my Subaru, when I was more into car stuff. So I knew you were a lesbian, but okay. What's wrong with lesbians?

SPEAKER_04 53:40

You don't like lesbians all of a sudden? No, I'm not particularly. Oh, lesbians are great. That's just never been a genre I've been into.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

You didn't, you never like girl on girl. No, not really a thing. Wow. I'm starting to think you might be gay.

SPEAKER_01 53:55

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

No, I just want to be in the action. The uh well, okay, okay, okay. So you're just not a what's the word? Uh voyeur. Voyeur. Yeah, you don't have a voyeuristic streak. God damn it, we're gonna have to change this episode to adults as well now. Oh well.

SPEAKER_05 54:13

The last one was pretty popular, so hey.

SPEAKER_00 54:15

I I guess, yeah, yeah. People didn't mind the adult content in there. See, I keep telling you, we need to get an OnlyFans podcast going. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The guy that you keep accusing of being gay, the podcast couple, the conservative natalist movement couple who you seem to call names all the time. I that is so fucking funny to me. It is hilarious.

SPEAKER_05 54:50

He gets she she pegs him, dude.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

There's no question about it. So on the last episode of their podcast I sent you, the title of the episode is How to Train Your Wife. Uh-huh. And it's basically talking about how he's trained his woman to be a proper wife. And uh how she needs to serve the man. And I mean, it's it is absolutely 100% the same shit you'd get from a you know white nationalist, Christian, conservative talking points. It's the same stuff. The difference is they're millionaires coming from the financial industry with clearly more unusual, well, both tastes and abilities to buy more unusual manufacturers. Like they both have glasses that I think anyone that at first glance would see, well, those are kind of weird looking, they're kind of funky. Yeah, that's because those glasses are five thousand dollars. They're they are indeed unique, they're not something you're gonna buy off of Amazon. But if you look at like expensive brands like Balenciaga, that shit always looks weird, it's expensive, I and it's not just for gays. Okay. So I mean it's I guess maybe some people would say he looks metrosexual. Extremely and may you have a little bit of a lisp even? Again, you're not helping your case here, G. But no, I'm just saying that gay presenting does not mean gay. And I I tend to judge people by the content that's coming out of their mouth, and I don't mean penises, I mean the the words that they're saying, and if you didn't see a picture of them, you would not have this bias. I just find it fascinating how you, and it's not just you, and I've said this before. I've I've got plenty of friends that are very similar in in the way that they will use the visual aspects to determine whether you like somebody or not. It's like this is not a how hot is this chick thing.

SPEAKER_04 57:14

It's not just that. It's I don't care what he looks like. I agree with what he's saying. They first of all, they're extremely slow in their rolling out of the information, they don't get to the fucking point. Two both of their voices are fucking annoying.

SPEAKER_00 57:30

Oh, oh, okay. One pause here. Oh, sorry about that, Ben. My food showed up. We need jingles. We do need jingles. Well, you could probably get a jingle or that at least.

SPEAKER_05 58:09

Darren already sent me one. What? Yeah, he sent me the uh jeans getting lunch jingle.

SPEAKER_00 58:18

Okay, you guys are clearly conspiring here.

SPEAKER_05 58:21

He just said it to me out of the blue, dude.

SPEAKER_00 58:23

Nice, nice. No, that's too funny. Well, it's not, I mean, I guess it is lunch, it's uh groceries.

SPEAKER_04 58:34

By the way, I made a uh seafood putinesca the other night. Are we getting another recipe? Uh it's already sent to you, dude. You've got like three to publish.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

I do, I do. Yeah, yeah, I'll do that this weekend.

SPEAKER_04 58:47

Anyone who hasn't had it, a seafood putonesca is an awesome pasta dish. You know, you've got capers in there, you've got calamati olives, you got uh fish and shrimp. And the way I did it was I had some time in the morning, so I started my sauce with shallots, onions, garlic, all that, and you know, and then adding in the tomatoes and letting it simmer for a good long time and really absorbing that. You know, you got bay leaves in there, you've got oregano and basil and all that put in. And you put that you put some of that in pretty early because you want it, you're gonna simmer it all day and you want it to cook to pieces. Yep. You can do it faster, but if you can simmer

Putanesca And Building A Recipe Hub

SPEAKER_04 59:28

it for a long period of time, that's what you do. And then I put my fish in pretty early as well. Because again, I want that fish to cook in and simmer and just go to pieces and just be flavoring in the background, not chunks of fish. You can add chunks of fish later on if you want, but I want the main protein in the star to be the shrimp, which you only add in the last few minutes, and it is just fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 59:50

Well, I'm getting hungry just listening to that. That actually sounds really good.

SPEAKER_04 59:55

It is really good. And do you know the origins of the of the dish?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:01

Uh Spain?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:03

No, uh Italy post-World War II. Oh, yeah. I mean the the hookers would make a putanesca to give to their Johns.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:12

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:14

Hence the term puta in the right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Literally means whore stew.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

Oh, Jesus, really? That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:22

Yeah, it and it's delicious. Whore stew.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

Of course it's good. Why wouldn't it be?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:27

Yeah, you've got that, you've got my red beans and rice recipe to publish, and another one.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:33

So yep, yep, yep, yep. We'll get those out there. And then something I've been telling Ben is we need to actually just have a repository for a text version of those, not just having them be part of the episode notes.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:48

Yeah, I can uh it's been a while since I've updated my website, but I can throw a recipe section on there and you can.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:55

Or get like Patreon going or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:57

Sure, because people are gonna pay for my recipes.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:00

Oh, hell yeah. Dude, what you think yours are worse than John's?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:05

Uh no. Okay, well, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:08

I've modified a lot of have you read his his well, I know I think he did actually do a book on this, but he's mentioned that his beans, bean recipe that wants something.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:19

Yeah, his Comdex Chili. I'm I make it a couple times a year, but I modify it quite a bit. It's actually really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:26

No, his the Comdex Chili, you're right.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:29

Yeah, the chili recipe that Dvorak did is if you like beans and you're chili and you're not a chili absolutist or Nazi, it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:39

Yeah, I prefer chili without beans. I'll eat it with beans, but I prefer it without beans.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

You know who has an amazing chili recipe that you ought to do then? Kent Rollins. If you go to Kent Rollins and look up his his chili recipe, oh my god, is it good? You don't know who Kent Rollins is? Uh uh.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:59

Oh, dude. This is something you gotta find on YouTube. You're gonna get addicted. He's an old chuck wagon cowboy cook. Really? Yeah, and he he's got some very good just if you like if you like southwestern-esque food and simple recipes, he's got a lot of really good stuff. I mean he's usually cooking this guy in open fire.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I well, I just didn't know his name, but I've seen his videos. Yeah, he's on YouTube. Yeah. Cowboy taste, yeah.

unknown 1:02:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:44

Well, that's cool. Yeah, I have seen him. So he's got a recipe with or without? He's got probably without.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:51

Yeah, yeah. But a lot of peppers and a lot of stuff that goes into it. That's really good. Do you like beans? I I will take either way with my chili. I love beans, so I'm you do like beans in general.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:03

So it's red beans and rice or the British fascination with beans on toast.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:11

I I can't. It's and their beans suck.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:14

They're horrible. It's got awful.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:16

Yeah. I don't I don't get it. What I the type of beans I like. I like red beans, I like pintos, I like anasazis, and you know, you take a hand bone or something in there, and there's just a ton of different ways to do it. It's all delicious. It's actually pretty good food for you to eat on the cheap. So yeah, I I grew up eating a ton of beans.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:41

I like the uh the Chinese sweet red beans. Mm-hmm. Those are good. But generally speaking, there's so many more tasty foods than beans that I just very rarely eat them.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:56

Uh, I don't know. If they're done right, I think they can be very tasty.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:02

Yeah. So there's a video I saw recently, I don't know if you saw it or not, of a fairly entitled somewhat attractive looking 20-something chick talking about how she's tired of men not acting like men. And how you know if if you're uh if you're gonna talk about your feelings, I I don't wanna have anything to do with you because you're obviously a woman, not a man. And if you still work for somebody instead of running your own company, you're obviously a woman, not a man. Yeah. And if you're well making less than a million a year, you're obviously a woman, not a man. And a whole bunch of this stuff, some with which frankly I agree with, some which is just retarded. But one of the things in there is,

Dating Polarity And Identity Arguments

SPEAKER_00 1:04:58

and if you're eating vegetables, you're obviously a woman, not a man. Men need to eat steak. I was like, well, there she's not wrong on that one.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:09

It's yeah, it's not wrong on a lot of it, but what I would say is, how the fuck dare you talk about men not acting like men when you don't act like a woman?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:18

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:21

You want a man who acts like a man who's masculine, then you be feminine. Because what works in relationships is polarity. And if you if you're both of the same pole, you end up repelling each other, and that's or you're lesbians. Well, there's generally a masculine one in there somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:42

Yeah. Well, I've always made the argument there's no such thing as a lesbian. There's just a a gradient of how touchy-feely chicks are with other women.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:58

Well, and i i i if if there were such a thing as a lesbian, then they'd be playing with pocket pussies, not dildos.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:08

Exactly. So it's and uh somebody was going over the stats and saying that of all lesbians self-identifying, 40% of them were married to men. Of lesbians that are 50 and over, 55% were married to men. Of lesbians over sixty, seventy-five percent were married to men. So it's kind of a I think they were making the argument that basically lesbianism is something that is done purely for rebellion when you're Young, you you're a lesbian because you're rebelling against the patriarchy, or whatever the current word is for icky boys. Then you stop being a lesbian, you get married, and then after you divorced, you're a bit bitter hag who is done with men, quote unquote, and is then becomes a lesbian at that point. So it has less to do with an actual either biological or learned preferences, and more to do with just a dislike or a conditional disdain for men in general. And I I think that's true because while I I've certainly met guys that appeared gay, like everybody says, Oh, he's obviously gay. I mean, you you're doing this right now with this co-host or this podcast dude that I watch, even though he's married with seven kids, but you know, I guess technically doesn't mean he can't be gay, but he's not acting gay. But he looks gay and sounds gay. So, you know, that's the thing. But there are guys that I've that I've known. In fact, there's a guy I remember in high school that like when we were 15, pretty much everybody thought he was gay, even though he wasn't like nobody had caught him with another guy or anything like that. He was just kind of like, eh, he's probably gay. And then uh sure enough, in college he uh came out, so he obviously is gay. But I've never seen that with women ever. Like they're all bi, I guess would be the way to put it.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:33

Varying degrees, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:38

Some of them are very non-curious about women, but there I don't I don't think there's like a a chick that's just not like men since she was a teenager and had had zero experience with men, zero curiosity about men. I mean, and it's just and and doesn't hate men. Like if you're just purely a lesbian because you you you know, because you think like a dude, then you ought to be very friendly to men. Vast majority of self-identified lesbians hate men. Agreed. So therefore, lesbian is a mistake.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:27

Alright.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:29

So what else you got, Gene?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:31

What else I got? Let me scroll up here. I got so Darren and Larry. You want to talk about no agenda? Sure, yeah, let's do that. Oh, did you listen to the episode? I did. I listened, I was a little bit behind you, but I was listening to it. Awesome. Um yeah, I well, I think they did a pretty good job in emulating. I think Darren changing the pitch of Larry's voice was probably the right move. I think the I don't know. I mean, I for their for a show where their audience of listeners isn't a couple of hundred but thousands, I think they also were like they didn't appear nervous or anything, so that was good.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:19

So we'll we'll see how that listenership holds up, but it looks like they've got it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:23

Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's the thing is I like I certainly think no matter

No Agenda Transition And Podcast Chemistry

SPEAKER_00 1:10:28

what happens, the listenership is going to be smaller simply because not that people don't want to listen to Adam, but you know, having somebody that's had a a show with two people on for the entire time lose one of the people inevitably shrinks the listenership. Because for some people, it's again it's not that they would dislike Adam, it's just that the the team of Adam and John is no longer here, and so their their question is are they interested in listening to something totally different or interested in listening to just Adam or Adam with somebody else? And I think for a lot of people that answer will be you know, no agenda had a beginning and no agenda had an end, and and that's that's all there is.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:20

Yeah. So you're gonna keep listening? We're moving into a new epoch for now. I'll have to see. We'll have to see how much Larry wants to rip me off on the flock cameras and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:30

Oh, so what's that all about though?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:32

Oh, just almost verbatim what I said about it. It may be totally coincidental, but it's just like huh. Wonder if he listens.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:42

Hmm. That's fascinating. Because obviously, you know, I talk to Darren all the time. Uh-huh. So, well, at least once a week. So I and occasionally Darren will listen to this show, although not anywhere near as much as you listen to Unrelenting. But I don't know. I've not had any interactions with Valerie at all. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:16

Text so I could uh roast him. Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll even I I don't even have his email. So did you get a text message or something? I'm wiping my face with a napkin.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:29

No, it can't, it was like a tut noise that came across the feed.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:34

Yeah, that was a napkin gliding off the microphone.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:37

That's weird.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:39

There there was no no technologically produced noises going on. I was just wiping my face and I I brushed the napkin against the microphone. All right. So yeah, sorry about that. Apologize for being unprofessional here, but you know, anyway, I think that's kind of your fault.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:58

It'll also depend on how much they stick to the format. You know, and I think they they should change it up a bit, right? They should make it their own.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:07

Otherwise, you know, if if it's just an imitation of what John and Adam were doing, then well, their whole show from the get-go, with no secret about it, was just a copy of No Jendas Formula.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:20

Yeah, with more cussing and some other stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:24

Definitely. So, I don't know. But I'll I'll tell you this. I am the only show that Darren's gonna be doing moving forward for as long as they're doing no agenda.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:52

Well, I mean, the and there is that people are used to listening to him doing something on on the stream every single day. And that he he's not gonna have time for that. He's not gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:07

Well, he he needs to pass on the rock and roll pre-show.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:10

He already did that. I can't remember who he passed it on to, but he already has somebody lined up to do that. Yeah, because that that's a lot of work to do, like, you know, a three-hour show and then a two-hour show before that. But I don't know. I mean, Darren's always wanted to be on the radio, and he has a good voice for it.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:37

Yeah, the other thing I would say is Darren and Larry are kind of new to the conspiracy theory slash anti-government space in a lot of ways. So the the part of the issue I have with them taking over is it's gonna be interesting to see how much background knowledge they have.

unknown 1:14:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:56

So you're saying there's not gonna be a crackpot.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:00

That and yeah, and just misinterpretation of events. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:08

Yeah, I would I would kind of agree with that because you know, in the five years, almost five years that I've been doing the show with Darren, he's really not not a conspiracy guy at all. I mean, maybe about like he was on the right side with COVID and stuff, but he's never talked about the moon landing or WTC 7 or any of the other stuff that's been part of my history for a long time.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:37

Oh, just like you know, knowing he's also not a big gun guy. Yeah, yeah, he's he's only got uh the one pistol or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:47

Well I mean, granted he does live in Illinois, but still it's not like it's not a big important thing. He'll go to the range if you invite him, but he's not gonna he's not gonna be spending a whole lot of time talking about that unless I bring it up or something. So yeah, there is that. But then again, you know, when Adam started, he didn't own a gun. Yeah. So and he's changed a lot. He's got quite a few of them now. So it's a yeah, well, we'll see how it goes. I'm obviously happy for my podcast partner, because it's you know, it's making him happy, so I'm happy for him. But I just really don't know what kind of acceptance he's gonna get from people, and he he has to walk that fine line of not appearing to to try and be taking John's place, but at the same time not deviating too far from the the formula.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:54

Well, who do you think's who on that show? Because from an operation standpoint, Darren's really an Adam's position.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:02

So Yeah. I I they're well, but neither one of them's really um crackpot. So I I think probably yeah, probably Darren's more of the Adam. Well there Larry's had more interesting jobs in his life.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:25

I I know nothing about Larry, really.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:29

Yeah, I don't I don't know a whole lot either, but like I know he was a writer on the the man show. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. And he's done, you know, commercial radio for quite a while. So he he does have more interesting stuff, because not not to say Darren's boring or anything, but you know, I mean Darren's kind of had some not horribly interesting jobs, like he was at work at Radio Shack for quite a while. And then his probably most fun thing, and you've I'm sure heard this because you listen to podcasts, is he was one of the early guys to do websites for playmates. So he also was a I I don't think he was a manager. I how did he get that gig? I think it was because he was a nerd and he offered to build a website for a pretty girl. Okay, and then she brought her friends. He's actually telling the story last time, I think on the last episode, because either that or he was telling it to me on the phone, I can't remember anymore, but that whole thing that whole thing ended because she wanted to get more of a referral fee from him for building these websites. He's like, no, there's not enough money there. And then she became a psycho, which like pretty pretty girl, playmate, psycho, no, you don't say some, but he's a good conversationalist. I like doing my podcast with him because I don't have to prep anything. Right. Not that we do a whole lot of prepping, but the topic range with him is just literally we both show up not knowing anything about what we're gonna be talking about. Some days it's gonna be AI shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:46

What? Mostly medical advice.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:48

Yeah, sometimes there's a lot of medical advice, sometimes very little. Sometimes there's a lot about AI, sometimes there's very little. You know, it all kind of varies, and he is he's got a great sense of humor, he's got great timing, and he can improv. And and those qualities I really appreciate because I've known a lot of people that are intelligent, but they cannot improv to save their lives. Like it's they they start getting lost when you're riffing, when you're just you know jumping topics or pulling shit out of your ass or whatever. And I I enjoy having that kind of flexibility. There's a guy that I I used to know here in Austin. I have no idea where he is anymore, but when I first moved here, he was one of the people that I met at a coffee shop that I used to go to quite a bit. In fact, used to meet up with Adam there and his previous wife to go to the farmer's market quite often. And that this guy was a musician who used to live in Minneapolis during the 90s when I was living there and we were going to a lot of the same clubs and stuff. He was performing, I was listening. But, you know, there's nothing particularly super cool about him, but he had an amazing ability to just riff and improv. So we'd be sitting at a table there with another common mutual friend of ours, who who is a guy I used to do podcasts with named Greg, and either he or I would say something that was you know just kind of came to mind on the spot. Like, oh yeah, man, I I can't believe that that the musicians now are using six-string guitars now. That's that's like back in my day, you know, they were all seven-string guitars. So if you're an analytical person, you're gonna be listening to that and analyzing, going, wait a minute. Yeah, that's not true. What are you talking about? But this guy, upon hearing what I just said, would be like, Yeah, I know, dude. I I have the same exact uh questions. Like, when the hell did that change? Because you know, all through my youth it was all seven string, and then something like what happened there? What did people forget how to move their fingers around so they have to reduce the number of strings? And we just go for like half an hour just on a bullshit made-up lie topic, which would drive my other buddy nuts because he he's the analytical type, right? So he'd be trying to argue, like, what are you guys talking about? No, no, no, no, that's not that's not true. They say, Here, let me look it up on Wikipedia, and he'd get all concerned that he missed something that we were talking about because we're so you know serious and and look like we're not joking. And there have been a number of times where I've just made him so mad that he like banned me from his house. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:57

Yes, much like you and Darren lying about me and Grok Ultra.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:02

What? I don't know what you're talking about. I have grok Ultra. If you didn't buy it, it's not my prank on me.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:10

Did you so Tony Romo got arrested?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:14

Yeah, which you're gonna have to say 99% of the words on this because I don't even know who that is.

unknown 1:23:21

What?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:22

I saw the news story. I saw the news story. Okay, ask me when the last time I went to see the last cowboys was. Okay, yeah, yeah. Anyway, did you watch the body cam footage?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:33

I did. He was not drunk, dude. There didn't look drinking.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:37

No, he he did not look drunk.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:39

And when they're doing the field sobriety test, you know, he uh or before that they he asked him to even call his lawyer and they tell him no, he should have just done it. But he shouldn't have done the sobriety test, first of all. He shouldn't have. And they asked him, and one of the most hilarious things I've seen this week that is the picture of him getting asked, have you ever had any concussions? And then the video cuts to all the concussions that he got playing for the Cowboys

Tony Romo DUI And Why Tests Fail

SPEAKER_04 1:24:04

and getting just hammered, right? Because when Romo played, the Cowboys offensive line was garbage, but anyway, he's a good quarterback.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:11

He just never honestly I think that's actually a great defense for not being able to do the standard sobriety check it's like you know, well-documented brain damage. So I can drive a car, but I can't stand on one leg.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:28

Right, absolutely. And you know, the the thing is that even the sobriety test, I don't know how they failed him. I don't know why they failed him. I think it's gonna be an easy one.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:37

You know exactly how they failed him. Yeah, because cops are bullshit. Because it's not a test, it's a humiliation ritual. It's meant to have you do stupid shit and their command like a trained dog that they are always going to say you didn't do. So and it was a female cop. There's no point in doing it in the first place. Like everybody should say, no, I'm not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:08

Right. And force them to get a warrant for your blood.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:11

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:13

There was only one time. And if you're if you're ever going through that, here's the thing the field sobriety tests are subjective. When was the last time they calibrated their breathalyzer? You don't even want to do the breathalyzer. Yep. And there was one dude arrested for DUI fairly recently who blew all zeros, but the cop still nope.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:32

There's a lot more than one. There's one that just won over a million dollars on that case, but I probably watch one of those a day of a cop arresting somebody blowing zeros. Yeah. Because immediately after blowing, the cop changes their take and says, Well, this only tests for alcohol. So all this proved is that you're on some kind of illegal drug. All we did was rule out alcohol, but it's not driving while intoxicated. It's or not driving while you're drunk, it's driving while you're intoxicated on any substance. Right. So, bottom line is no point in doing them.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:20

Nope. Make them get the toxicology report for your blood. It's you you're at that point when they're doing that, the odds of you getting arrested are pretty high anyway. So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:32

I've only been pulled over and made to do a breathalyzer test once. And I think it was absolutely fair because it was I was coming home from a company Christmas party that basically had you know all the liquor you could drink, and I had quite a bit of it, and I was very, very worried about getting a DWI because I'm like, I probably am drunk because you know, I I don't know how many drinks I had, but it was a lot more than for an hour, and I was there for a few hours, and you know, sitting there in the back of the cop's car, so keep blowing, keep blowing, keep blowing. And as I'm blowing, there was a message that came on his radio that was a bunch of coded shit, but which resulted in him clearly deciding that that was more important than me. Because as soon as I got done blowing, without looking at what the results were, he said, Alright, get out of the car. This is your lucky day. I was like, What? Get out of the car. And so I got out of the car and he sped away. And you got lucky. I got lucky. There's no two ways about it. I'm pretty sure that I was at least borderline and potentially over the line. So I can't believe I got lucky there. I also don't know why the fuck he pulled me over because I wasn't swarming or anything. If anything, I was probably driving slower than I should have been. But that would have been about the only thing. But that was my one and only time I ever got tested for alcohol.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:31

So Elon is building a new factory in Grimes County, and he just paid over $10 million to Grimes County ahead of the tax stuff starting.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:41

So the project is protesting?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:45

There are some people. But like here's the thing, dude. This is right here in my backyard. It's like 25 miles east of where I'm sitting. And the total investment after they're done is going to be over 119 billion.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:02

Yeah, that's a lot of billions.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:05

Dude, this is gonna be a game changer for this area in a lot of ways. Grimes County has no major tax base at this point. So hello. What a this is Well, how do they make money? What do you mean? What where do they

Musk’s Texas Terafab And Robotaxis

SPEAKER_04 1:29:25

get their taxes? Largely agricultural.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:32

So how does a county team make money off agriculture? I'm not even sure how that works. What do you mean, taxes? Yeah, but taxes for what? Because most farmers break even. Right, but it's property taxes. Oh, prop oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. And is is farm property taxed at the same kind of rates then?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:53

No, you've got some exemptions and stuff like that, but there's a ton of it. It's a it's a pretty poor county, and this is a huge investment. Well, that's good. Yeah, yeah. It's gonna be great for the general area, it's gonna be great for Grounds County. You know, it it I see nothing but positives on this. And you know, people are calling it a data center, and it's not a fucking data center, right? It's a factory. Yes, it's the terafab if anybody wants to look it up.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:19

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:20

Yeah, he he likes using those words. Yes, he does.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:23

Giga Fab. Gigafab.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:24

Terafab. Now, yeah, now it's a Terafab.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:28

Yeah. And we've got Tesla taxis spreading like crazy here in Austin. Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. I know nothing about them. You can tell that well, they're totally self-driving, obviously. You can tell that they are the Tesla taxis because all the cars are gold wrapped. Interesting choice. Yeah, it's not a very pretty color. It's an unusual color. Most people don't do it. So it's not like a shiny metallic gold, it's kind of a you know, brushed gold, but definitely gold, not brass color. And they're I think they're just basically model wise that are just wrapped. Huh. So they look like anyway. Because I saw one, took a picture of it, sent it to my buddy who's a big Tesla dude. And I said, This is a very unusual wrap. And then I saw another one right next to my house. I'm like, okay, what are the odds of seeing a Tesla with the exact same wrap in two different locations over a couple days, the same color, and then he replies back, yeah, that's because that's what a taxi looks like. It's like, oh, okay, that makes sense. But yeah, we got, I mean, there's one place I wish I had the camera app running on the phone while I was there. Did not take a picture of it, but it was pretty damn funny. Where I was the only human behind the wheel at an intersection, and there were six other cars there, none of which had a human driver. Hmm. It's it's like terrifying, it's a scene out of a some kind of futuristic movie. Yeah. Because there's a shit ton of Waymo's driving everywhere. Some of the ugliest cars, the car they're based on is not bad, Jaguar, but all the extra crap that they put on there, it's like you know, last generation oversized cameras and sensors. It just makes the car look super ugly. And sometimes these Waymo cars don't know what to do because they have another Waymo car that's sitting there trying to decide if it should make a turn. So they keep trying to let each other pass, and then in the end, kind of gridlock. Uh-huh. Yeah. Like they're both too polite. A normal human would like wait about three seconds before going, and the Waymo's wait a lot longer. So sometimes it's not a good thing. But look, I'm I'm not anti-self-driving. I think that is a better route to go. I think that people should have the ability to drive if you have a qualifying license that allows you to drive. But overall, I think safety is going to be greatly improved if your people drive, you're humans. And it gets rid of the whole DWI thing, too. Drink all you want. You're gonna be in the backseat.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:40

Yeah, well, I I just don't yeah, until it takes you directly to the police department and drops you off. Yeah. Well, I mean, you'd have to see you doing something to do that. Yeah. Did you see the guy that uh got arrested at U.S. Customs for wiping his phone? What happened? He used the he used the distress code on Graphene OS. Oh, yeah, I did see that guy. Yeah, because he's involved with the Cop City protests and stuff like that. And they're charging him on destruction of evidence, which is gonna be like he's gonna get off. Yeah, it's impossible to prove. Yeah. Well but holy crap, taking a security feature and trying to make it a prime.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:22

It's such a great feature. I think that story will sell a lot of graphene phones. And because, you know, on Apple, I don't think that exists. I think on Apple forever, you if you enter the wrong code ten times or five times, some number of times, then it erases your phone. But there is no secondary code to force

Phone Searches At The Border And Wipes

SPEAKER_00 1:34:45

an immediate erase. I think that's a great feature. I'd love that on my phone.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:49

Yeah, there's not that on and just stock Android either. But what you can do is if you are going through a security checkpoint, you can turn off fingerprint reading and require your password.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:02

Now, if you required your password and you only have an eight-digit password, you know, that's numerical, they're gonna get in. If you're like me and have a very long alpha numeric and special character password, then it's gonna be a lot harder for them to get in.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:22

But no, the distress code option in um in graphene is a good one. The other feature that I would like to see, and specifically because of this incident, is instead of a distress code wiping the phone, you can have a distress code that wipes the phone, but you could also have a distress code that allows them in and see a sandboxed environment that has nothing in it.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:47

Well, the only problem with that is if if you can get them that far, then they can start monkeying around and and yeah, but if there's no probable cause to continue, then likely they're not.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:58

It's the same concept that used to exist in some of the disk encryption stuff as a hidden volume, right? You put in one password and it shows one set of files, you do the other password and it shows the true volume.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:10

Well, dude, you remember in that video, the Reckless Ben stuff, when the cops raided their house, the cops asked one of the other guys to get his phone, which again, I'm like, no, you're not getting my phone. Uh you show me a warrant that says you get my phone. You don't have a warrant for a phone, you have a warrant for stolen property. Phone's mine.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:32

This happened.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:33

Well, let me finish the story. So the so the guy pulls out his phone from his back pocket because they're all very compliant to the cops. That's the one thing that I just keep slapping my forehead with watching the the Reckless Ben stuff is yeah, they're all kids, they're all young, but my god, they just do whatever the cops tell them to do. It's amazing. But in there, the cop tells him to give him this phone, he pulls it out. As he's you know bringing it to the cop, he notices that the phone is on the bill pay option, you know, because on the iPhone, like one of the even if the phone's off, you can double-click it and it'll pop up ready to pay your bill at whatever checkout you're in. And he's you know, in the process of giving it to a cop, so he reaches his thumb around to get out of the bill pay, and the cop grabs his arm, yanks it, wrecks it around his back, grabs his phone and says, Congratulations, you've now been arrested for destruction of evidence. It's like, okay, what he would first of all, he didn't have to give you the phone. Secondly, he absolutely has the right to turn the phone off before he gives it to you. Thirdly, that's not even what he was doing. Because it's visible on the cop's body cam that the screen that was visible on the phone is the credit card payment screen. Like, he's not gonna give you the phone that you can then walk by a gas station and pay to refuel your car with. Like, that'd be idiotic to do that. And and then they they want to charge him with destruction of evidence. Well, you gotta have a crime first before you can have any evidence to destruct. And there was a zero crime there.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:23

If you can't if you can't prove a crime, how can you prove that there was evidence of a crime?

SPEAKER_00 1:38:29

But the police department isn't one of the worst in the country. It's just amazing watching all of the lawyers that have YouTube channels, and there's a lot of them, just shred what they're doing to pieces. Even a pro-cop channel, like only cops. I don't know if you ever watched that. No, it's it's you know, a play on the OnlyFans, obviously, but the the channels run by one cop that you know was banging the whole department. Yeah, yeah, there was that one cop. I remember that, yeah. But it's got a cop, an active duty cop that runs the channel. He's like he trains police, and uh here in Texas. And it's generally most of the videos, if you watch them, it's it's him shaking his head and and making fun of the idiots in the cop videos that are acting like idiots. Which they're I I laugh at them too, that those are funny. But in this case, he's just like, I can't believe the cops are doing this. Like, how do they not know that they can't do this? This is illegal. When you when you got cops telling you that you're doing illegal shit as a cop, you're you're pretty bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:45

Well, cops need to police their own.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:47

Um, they don't. Cops need to be treated like criminals.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:51

Well, that yes, but it i if cops don't want people to dislike them, is my point.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:57

Well, we can fix that very quickly simply by getting rid of whatchamacallit immunity.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:05

Yeah, qualified immunity. Qualified immunity leader. Exactly. Now, this individual, he was able to be detained and searched without a warrant because he was in the border. Right. He had not officially entered the country. Some lawyers I've talked to say, yeah, that's never really been challenged and probably needs to be, stuff like that. Yep. You know, because you're a U.S. citizen standing on U.S. soil, you're in the country, right? Well, again, there's several items there on asylum seeking, lots of different things, how we handle that. But I think if you're a U.S. citizen, you've entered the country.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:45

Well, yeah, I mean, I I I don't like that because I've had to deal with it. Like I've had to, you know, back when I was traveling, when you kids were still sucking your thumbs, you'd have to turn on your laptop and log into it, not because they wanted to look through your laptop, but to prove that it was a real laptop and not a fake laptop looking thing with a bunch of C4 inside. And so, like, that's always rubbed me the wrong way. When I traveled with a lot of camera gear, when I was doing a lot of photography, like they would always have way too many questions about what were you photographing and where's the film from that, and you know, like none of your fucking beeswax. It doesn't matter. You've got my passport, you see my picture, it's the same person. You don't need to ask me any questions about where I was or what I was doing. Really, none of your fucking business. But you know, it's the border, it's it is in a grey area, it is a place where a lot of your civil rights that the constitution affords you don't yet exist until you're officially crossed over that border. And that border is a moving border. So if you go through custom well, and I'm not even talking about customs, I'm talking about actual it's customs is the you brought shit with you and you gotta pay tax on it. The I'm talking about the actual border crossing, the the guys that check your passport, those guys. And they've got policies where you can't be filming in an area where they're checking passports, which is also bullshit. Like, why? That's that's a retarded thing. You have a First Amendment right as an American to film in any government space. Like they have to specifically define a reason for why you can't. And I don't see a good reason why you can't film in that initial airport border area when you're flying in from Mexico or something. Like, what the hell, man?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:55

It's stupid. Well, I'd rather them get mad at me for filming than let them just trample on my rights. But it's your right. It's one of your rights. We're just again, the government overreaches and we Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:09

Yeah. Every country has a government they deserve.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:13

It's always been true. Speaking of, what did you think of the Iranian propaganda Lego footage talking about?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:20

I love that they're using Legos. I think that's hilarious. I also kind of, you know, I I saw the that on Alex Jones' Paul Post, so of course I had to comment and say, well, nice propaganda there you put together, Alex. But I mean, it's pretty high quality. I've always liked their stuff. They they they do a good job of AI.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:44

That's all they got left.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:46

Yeah. Well, you know, we say that, but we've been saying that for months. And they keep shooting stuff at us. Yeah, but it's onesie twosie.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:55

It's they they do they could they could not sustain fire. And again, I think we want the straight closed. I really do. I I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:04

I think if we wanted the straight open, it would be open.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:06

Right, yeah.

Iran Missile Math And War Aims

SPEAKER_03 1:44:12

That we it does benefit us. We've talked about that before.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:20

Especially I mean, Newsweek even coming out and saying Trump was right, like we talked about earlier. Like it just flows into all of this.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:30

So let's see what it says here. I'm looking at Iranian missile tracker. And yeah. Yeah, there's they're they're way down. They are way, way down. But, you know, they're still launching like 14 missiles. Fourteen missiles and twelve drones. Now, when they were starting this war, they were launching four hundred and thirty-eight missiles. Exactly. And four hundred drones a day. So it is obviously a huge decrease. But they haven't completely stopped.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:17

Uh well, you know, at some point of taking out infrastructure, there's yeah, and there's got to be a change.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:25

And again, like I'm very happy that Trump is finally doing this. I don't understand why he had to wait for three months. Because I would have just done that immediately. This is whether whether you think the war was wrong or not, this is what we did in the first Iraq invasion in '92. Yeah, yeah. We came in, what did we focus on blowing up? Infrastructure. We blew up refineries, power plants, and water treatment facilities. That was the main stuff we were targeting. And because of that, the the thing that impeded progress towards Baghdad, the thing that slowed us down the most, you know what that was? What was that? Fuel logistics for our tanks. That was the biggest slow. We we could go as fast and as far as we wanted to every single day, and we were limited by logistics. And they the Iraqis were they were giving up super easily. I had a guy that I used to work with years ago, would have been in early 2000s, that was in that war. And he had 14 Iraqis in one group of 14 Iraqis surrender to him when he was alone. And I mean, this is this is exactly what would happen if we had troops on the ground in Iran.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:10

No, there's a big difference between Iran and Iraq. One is flat open desert, the other is very mountainous.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:16

The difference in that I'm talking about here is with the people. Because the people that are currently in the IRGC, the one, the grunts, the ones that would be the immediate recipients of American fire, would happily surrender. They they would love to surrender you wouldn't think they're fanatical. No. What they can't do is go and join a demonstration on the streets. But if they were to surrender, they would totally do it. No, the IRGC makes up now. This is this is according to the Iranian channels that I that I watch all the time, like the not in Iran Iranian channels, the expat channels, right? Is that by best estimates, IRGC support is about 12% of the population. And out of that 12% that are IRGC, the only quote-unquote hardcore people are people that get to actually not live the life of most Serenians. These are people that have special privileges. So this would be the clergy, they would be people with high-ranking military positions, they would be people with high-ranking internal police security positions. So people that benefit from their lifestyle with RRGC. The grunts, both in the military and the police force, they just need an excuse to lay down their arms. Like again, they're not gonna preemptively join the demonstrators because not only would they get killed, but their families would. But they will happily not fight if they can surrender.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:05

And the making the case for us to put boots on the ground?

SPEAKER_00 1:49:09

I've always said that. I think we needed to do that from the get-go. Absolutely. Dude, we have an opportunity to own Iran for the next hundred years. It it's stupid to not do that. And it and we can do it for cheaper than the cost that we've spent on building these bases in in Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:37

Okay?

SPEAKER_00 1:49:38

I I I think it's a no-brainer. I think I'm looking at it from what really I think is your standpoint, which is a impure impure uh imperial standpoint. Like, what is good for the American Empire? What is good for the American Empire is control trade throughout the world and to be the single largest controller of oil production. And Iran hits both of those. Well, it'd be a hell of a blow to China. It'd be a hell of a blow to China, and it frankly, and I I think this this could be a miss by the Russia's actions. They've been too pussyfoot about it. But if the US takes Iran, Russia may have to just give up everything they got in Ukraine. And why do you think that is? Because the US is going to be setting a bunch of back ordered military surplus supplies that were for the Iranian war that was are gonna get put to use somewhere somehow. So all of a sudden it's not gonna be a conversation well, how. Many tomahawks is the US gonna give or not give Ukraine. And everybody knows Ukraine isn't Ukraine at this point, it's mostly European troops, not Ukrainians. And if we get all this equipment, yeah, might as well use it somewhere. And I think that's what Russia's afraid of. And they're already seeing it. Like the only reason that Moscow's been getting attacked with drones is because they've dragged their ass for so many years now with this war. They needed to have been a lot faster, been willing to sacrifice a lot more people. The Ukrainians have innovated quite a bit. That's what I mean. They give them too much time. They should not have given Ukraine five years. You can't fight a five-year war and expect to win it.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:36

Well, especially when you're fighting what should what on paper is a severely inferior innovation.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:43

Yeah. And this is something that I was explaining to people initially, because you know, I can actually translate the all the speeches Putin gave. They were treating this not as a war, and this is why it's called a special military operation. This was being treated as a like basically cousins fighting amongst each other because one of them got drunk and started insulting the other one. This was being treated as like this is an internal Slavic conflict. Europe should stay out of it, it's none of their business. We'll take care of this our own, you know, and and that was a miscalculation. This is where amazingly the Lindsey Graham's of the world actually calculated things correctly. And they said, you can overwhelm

Russia Ukraine History And Hard Borders

SPEAKER_00 1:52:38

Russia by exploiting the fact that they don't really want to destroy parts of what they consider to be, you know, part of the motherland. And you you can argue back and forth whether there was always an intention to recapture all of Ukraine and make it part of Russia or not. But historically, it was Russia. It's been part of Russia literally for a thousand years. It's hard to argue with history. If you just look at the history of that territory, it it's it's really where Russia started. And and there was a really good video that I posted to our group here about 30-minute history of 1200 years of Russian history. Because it's very unbiased, it's not you know anti-Russia, but it's not really pro-Russia either. But it kind of walks through what happened and and how the center of Russia moved from Kiev to Moscow. And the way it moved from Kiev to Moscow was basically because Moscow did a deal with the Mongolian hordes to collect taxes on their behalf and thereby gaining power, and all the other Slavic territories ended up having to be subservient to Moscow because they were collecting taxes for the Khans. I mean, it's kind of a you know, it's a smart move politically, it's a sleazy move nationally, but it is what it is, that's just part of the history. And but nobody would deny that the Russian Russia started in Kiev. That's historically the case. And it started when a Swedish group of Vikings came down. So what created the country initially was Viking occupation of a bunch of tribes and united them into an actual country. But looking at all that and then seeing where the borders were, you know, the that territory, that southwestern Russia, as I would refer to it, or Ukraine, in other words, it's been held by a lot of different groups over time. It was held by the Ottoman Turks, it was held by the Hungarians, it was obviously completely part of the captured territory during World War II by the Germans, it was part of the captured territory of France during Napoleon Bonaparte's time, it was the area where the War of 1812 was ravaging with Russia against Britain and other European nations, incidentally, it was for that same piece of land. And throughout all of that history, it was Russia. And if you look at a map that I also posted that breaks down that territory, but like when did it become part of the Ukrainian provinces? And it's it's basically during during the Soviet Union. Three different, yeah, three different communist presidencies. Lenin created a chunk and uh gave it to Ukraine. Khrushchev created a chunk, gave it to Ukraine, and Stalin created a chunk and sliced off chunk. Like the Stalin one was actually at least coming out of Poland. So he sliced off a part of Poland post-World War II and then made that Ukraine. But for that entire time, Ukraine was simply a region, a territory, it had its own you know political infrastructure, just like states do here in the US, just like counties do. Like it was it was always seen as part of the country. No one was trying to give Russian territory to a foreign power. It was just transitioned from which county something is controlled through or what state something is controlled through. And and so, you know, when Ukraine got independence, part of the negotiations that happened at that time included things that were good for Russia and actually, frankly, for the West as well, like the transfer of all nuclear weapons out of that territory and back into Russia proper, because there was a very real and strong question of what happens when this shit falls into the oligarch black market hands when it's just going to be for sale to anyone, including Iran, incidentally. And nobody wanted that. The West didn't want that, Russia didn't want that, so all the nukes got transitioned back to Russia, which the codes were always only in Russia, like nobody trusted anybody in that region of the country to have the launch codes. The launch codes were always centrally controlled.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:33

But now Ukraine has been a very corrupt country for a very long time.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:37

It's yeah, it's it's it's got a reputation for it. It's kind of like the same way that you and I would think of like Morocco, right? Or any of the Middle Eastern countries. It's not a place where you feel safe. You need to always protect yourself against pickpockets, against bad deals, against people trying to rip you off when you get a taxi ride or you do anything else. Like it's it had a reputation of a more lawless southern kind of place. And honestly, we think of Mexico the same way that somebody from further up north in Russia, from a big city in Russia, would think of that region in Ukraine. It's a place you go on vacation. It's beautiful, it's lush, there's there's lots of farmland there, it's on the Black Sea, so you got great beaches. You know, I I was going down to Crimea to go swim in the summer. My uh uncle lived there, but it's not a it's certainly not a distinct, separate, different country. And I think what what this whole Ukrainian national movement turned into, with the you know, treating it as a whole separate people that were like conquered by the USSR and now they got their freedoms back and they they're totally living their autonomous life. Ukrainian to Russian is kind of like speaking Cajun to English.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:13

Well, dude, that that that can be indecipherable.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:17

I know, I know, but but they're but yeah, it's it's probably less than Cajun, but it's the same kind of thing, like to where the Cajuns feel very proud of being Cajun, they have parishes instead of counties, they've got a lot of little peculiarities, but you can't say that they're not Americans.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:35

I mean, I'm sorry, but yes, you can. Anything south of I-10 in Louisiana is not part of the United States.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:44

Okay, well, I'm not willing to give it up. I like New Orleans.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:48

Yeah, I've been to New Orleans. It's not part of it is not part, no, not New Orleans. I'm talking deep Cajun country. I'm talking like Bayou Tish. Well, no, I haven't been there. Yeah. English is not the primary language. You can all you can also call you didn't get electricity till the 80s, it is a different place down there.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:09

Yeah, well, anyway, my my point is simply being that this is not like I think Hawaii has a better argument for being a separate nation from the United States than Louisiana. And sure. It was it was conquered fairly recently. They had their own language, their own people, their own government, their own culture, everything. And then they became part of America and now are mostly Japanese, which is kind of weird too. But it is what it is. That's reality out there. But that that is what closer to what Ukraine is, and every Ukrainian can understand and speak Russian, and most Russians can understand Ukrainian. I'd be hard pressed to speak Ukrainian just simply because I don't listen to enough of it to memorize all the words, but I can figure out by sound and context pretty much every Ukrainian word. So I can watch Ukrainian news programs in Ukrainian and understand them. You know, I've never studied the language. That's because it's not a fucking language, it's a dialect.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:17

Yeah, yeah. So last topic.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:20

Yeah, sorry, I got a little long-winded on that, but we haven't talked about Russia in a while, so it's about time.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:25

So Y'all Street just finished their first bell-ringing ceremony. I'm not aware of what Y'all Street is. It's the new Texas Stock Exchange. The nickname for it is Y'all Street. Really?

SPEAKER_00 2:01:38

I didn't know we had a stock exchange.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:40

We just opened.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:42

Oh, it's a brand new thing. Okay. Where's it located? Dallas?

SPEAKER_04 2:01:45

Dallas.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:46

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:49

And they just added their first new company.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:51

What kind of what's training there? Stocks, presumably.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:54

Yes. It's a stock exchange, so yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:57

Yeah, I mean, any particular stocks or are just like penny stocks, or we'll see.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:04

They're supposed to be trying to add a bunch of companies and actually have a goal of stealing companies from the big stock exchange.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:13

Now, I may be wrong on this, but my understanding is that a company is only listed on one exchange at a time.

Y’all Street Launches A Texas Exchange

SPEAKER_00 2:02:19

Correct. Yes. Okay. And you could do it like after hours and off-hours training, but that ultimately goes back to finalize the trades at that exchange. Right. Yeah. So interesting. Well, I'm that's cool. I mean, it's gonna there's probably gonna be a lot of grift going on. A lot of scams trying to pull some stuff there. But uh because that happens every time a new financial institution opens up. Because there are people right now using AI to figure out how to game this thing.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:57

Yeah, so it's interesting what they're bidding on their a on their website, the only national securities exchange headquartered and incorporated in Texas. They're big in the national listings.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:10

Yeah. Well, I like it. I'm gonna have to check out and make sure that I can trade on there. Well, I couldn't know for what, but something. I mean, I would be more prone to look at shit on like look, if I want to just play around a little bit with some stocks, I'd rather do it there.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:30

You know, just then if I'm gonna do any penny stocks at all. Anything that isn't like a well-known stock like Tesla. Well, I know, but I'm just saying, like I I'm not gonna be buying Ford or Tesla or NVIDIA or something on there, so I'm not I'm not gonna be trading the stuff that I hold for a long time on there, but I may want to do short-term trades or cheap trades on there just for diversion's sake. And I I like supporting Texan shit in general.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:03

Well, I mean it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:04

If I have a choice on independence, exactly. If I have a choice, I would sooner do business with a Texas company, period.

unknown 2:04:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:16

Well, they're they it they just started here in July, initiated limited trading and system testing uh with a number of firms. Uh they're doing ETFs and stuff like that right now, but they are going to be. There you go. Scams.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:32

That's what I was talking about. Okay. ETFs are scams. Alright. That's all we got. That's all I got. You talked about all your fancy stuff you wanted to bring up on here. Like what? I don't know. Helmets. We already did. I know, that's what I'm saying. You talked about all that stuff. Yep. I think we're good. I got a meltdown. Alright, guys, so I will work on putting the recipes together and then I will catch you next week, Ben. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:06

Later.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:07

Yep.