New Recording Setup And Warmup

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Well, howdy, Ben. How are you today? Gene, I'm doing all right. That's good.

SPEAKER_04 0:30

Things are good everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Yeah, hey, I see your graph when you're talking, but I see nothing for me. I don't know if that matters. I see both. I see both.

SPEAKER_04 0:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

We're doing something different, people.

SPEAKER_04 0:43

Yeah, we switched what our recordings on, and hopefully it'll sound good. We go we actually are going back to one that we used to use like three years ago. Zen Casta. So if it sounds like shit, blame them. If it sounds good, then you can thank me.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

Yeah, get give Gene all none of the none of the blame, all of the credit. Well, I appreciate that, Ben.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

That's uh just what I would expect from you. Being a good friend and all. Yeah, so what was that? We have we have a uh sound effects in here. God, what are you doing? Which apparently I set up and never used previously three years ago and are still in here. Don't do that. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

So unless it makes sense. Yeah,

FBI Raid Talk And Taking Wins

SPEAKER_01 1:28

go ahead. Did you see FEI raids former rep Eric Swalwell's home? I did, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:34

Yeah, buddy. Hell yeah. I mean, you know, people would have liked to see more of this earlier in the administration, but I'll take it. You know what? Take the dwins. Yeah, take the wins. Just because it's not enough wins for you. Exactly. It's like the people bitching about the uh Second Amendment wins that we've been getting, like multiple ones recently saying, yeah, but really, you know, I mean, it uh until Congress actually passes a law that kills the old laws, it's not really a win. Like, are you fucking crazy? Do you know how long we've been fighting for this?

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Right. And do you know how many millions of suppressors will be sold and then make it like impossible for them to ever do anything with it?

SPEAKER_04 2:15

Yeah, the right now, I don't know if you watch the video of the guy that puts out like a video every three hours. He's kind of the bald guy with the goatee gun channel. I is out of Kentucky. Anyway, so the current stats apparently are that during the time that the $200 stamp was required, they've released the stats, and six and a half million people have bought, or I shouldn't say people, six and a half million suppressors have been sold. You mean since it was turned moved to zero? No, no, no, no, no, no. This is with the two hundred dollar stamp. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Well, they don't have how you could ever argue it's not in common use.

SPEAKER_04 2:58

Well, that that's his point, right? So this they we don't have the stats since they went to zero, but we do have the stats or double that. It probably is, but six million is clearly normal use, right? That is mainstream product, even with a $200 tax stamp. And you know for a fact that probably at least one out of 10 people decided to not do it because it's complicated, but would have done it if they could just buy the thing with their gun when they bought the gun at the store. It's it's you think about how much more money gun stores would have made when you can do a upsell to a oh, did did you want to get uh earplugs or did you want to get a suppressor? Suppressors are gonna become cheap. Yeah, hell yeah. You know what the cheapest one currently is? I got that stat too.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Under $100.

SPEAKER_04 3:49

$53.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Yeah, for like a 22 can. I think I saw it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:54

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

That's great. Yeah. Well, and some of the other wins that we've had recently,

Suppressors In Common Use

SPEAKER_01 3:59

too. You know, not just suppressors and SBRs and SBSs, but the the post office ruling. That was a really good one. That's right. Yeah. You you can now carry for a lawful purpose in the post office. If you see the sign saying otherwise, tell your postmaster to take that shit down. He's enjoined.

unknown 4:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 4:17

It's been illegalized. Exactly. I have seen a little bit of a flurry of videos of telling people that don't jump with both feet into anything other than suppressors from the NFA because it's still not clear. There still needs to be clear. Although, apparently, with the the lawyers for the lawsuit that had to do with ghost guns, which part of that was the numbering of the created weapons, right, and the registration thereof. The lawyers for that case who won are saying their reading on the judicial ruling is that the people that have been enjoined in their win, they can now create all the guns they want with no numbers.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

Well, that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 5:20

Yeah. Now there's caution there in that even if you're part of that class, can you go back and remove the numbers from guns? Well, that's illegal under different circumstances. Exactly, exactly. So it's kind of like here's my question. Um and I'm not trolling here, I'm just asking a legitimately question I don't know the answer to. What is the point, or why would you want to have a weapon that doesn't have a serial number on it?

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Because I made it and I don't need to put a fucking serial number on something I made and I'm gonna use. Which means it can't be transferred anyway.

SPEAKER_04 5:57

Gun number one built by me. I would prefer that actually. I would like a serial number on my gun.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 6:05

But I mean, like, what's I don't understand the benefit of that. Because first of all, you're disqualling yourself from insurance coverage for that weapon. Because m everybody's policies that I've seen require a serial number for a gun to be insurable.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

And it seals it. There are antique guns that don't have serial numbers.

SPEAKER_04 6:25

So well, you could probably get, yeah, if you get an appraisal for a gun that has a copy of the appraisal, you could probably do that. I don't know. It just seems like where's the benefit in not having a number? I get it that it like if there's no requirement, you don't have to put one on there. I get that. You know, like any artwork I've created, any kind of paintings I've sold, anything, any photographs I've sold, when I sign them on the back, there's always a number. Because it's like, you know, it's it's an X of X, like one of ten or something that that I actually created. And frankly, since I had a a big crash of my NAS and lost all the original files for my photographs, like that shit someday might be worth something because none can be made anymore because the originals are gone. So I would want like if I ever get to the point of renting a time in a shop to build a gun, I would sure as fuck want to have serial number one on there. Okay. I mean, If you want to do it, that's why I said I'm not trolling, I'm just like, it's a legitimate question for my part. Is like, what is the mindset of a person who doesn't want any number?

SPEAKER_01 7:41

I don't want the if I would put serial number one of the first gun I ever built, sure, as long as I don't have to report it to anybody that that's what it is. Right, right. You know, I wouldn't put my name, I'd just put like the serial number would be my first gun build or some shit like that. You know, or fuck the ATF would be even a better one.

SPEAKER_04 7:59

I mean, that's probably already a registered company name, I suspect.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Right, but I if it if it's there's no conflict here, it's my point. Yeah. If we need to do a trademark search, and if it's not taken.

SPEAKER_04 8:16

Yeah, yeah. Well, or let's start with the domain search because those are the easiest to get.

SPEAKER_03 8:21

I'm I'm already heading to hover. Settle down.

SPEAKER_04 8:26

Oh man. Yeah, because you you'd never be on any lists for that.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

Dude, if I'm not on a list already, people ain't doing their jobs. That's true. That is true.

unknown 8:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:37

So what do we want to call it? What do you want to do you want to be explicit and say use the word fuck in there? Fuck the ATF Gunworks. Yeah. Is that what you said?

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Yeah. See if we can get it. See if we can get it. I bet you it's already registered. Uh-huh. Oh, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 8:55

Fuck the ATFGunworks.com is available. Check, check just fuck the ATF.com.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

I guarantee you that's taken. Yeah, fuck the ATF.com is taken.

SPEAKER_04 9:07

Taken? Okay. Yeah. Well, look up who it is. See if there's any money for reporting them. So this is what our new gun company is going to be called.

SPEAKER_03 9:15

Fuck the ATF Gunworks. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. $18 a year.

SPEAKER_04 9:21

Yeah, that's worth $18 a year. See, this is how we end up with like a hundred domains.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Oh, I've got so many. Yeah, I didn't.

SPEAKER_04 9:35

I've been dropping usually three or four every renewal cycle that I just do not need anymore. Never gonna use them for anything. Ever again. So do we wanna give a quick mention to something that happened in the No Agenda community here?

No Agenda After John’s Death

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Yeah. I started listening to the show.

SPEAKER_04 9:55

Did you listen to today's Today's show, yep, which was Adam.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

And he had on Safer.

SPEAKER_04 10:03

Uh he had Rob. Rob Alex Jones producer.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Yeah, the ex. He's been out there for a while.

SPEAKER_04 10:12

Yeah. That guy. The guy that claims to have given my resume to Alex, but I'm not so sure. But anyway, so I thought he did a decent enough job. He's had some media training.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

Yeah, and he's got enough of a conspiratorial bent.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

Yeah, oh yeah. Probably more so than many others, yes. Potentially more than that. But but that was also a an episode where we I saw that the guys that have been doing it for the last few weeks, my other podcast partner, Darren, and then his buddy Larry were not doing it. So apparently their their temporary duties of doing no agenda are over and done with. So it'll be interesting to see what ends up happening and who ends up being on after this.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Well, did you pay attention to the intro?

unknown 11:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

No agenda with Adam Curry. I did. Yep. Right. No and. So I don't know. I think he might rotate through co-hosts for a while. Which I don't know. I think either turn it over to someone new and maybe pop in the way he was with Darren and Larry, or just let it go. Yeah.

unknown 11:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

I mean, you know, redirect the RSS feed and make it something new.

SPEAKER_04 11:37

I think for a lot of people, the regardless of what you call out the show or not, the no agenda moniker died with John. Like that, to me, that is the last legitimate episode of No Agenda. And everything else is something different.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Everything else is something different.

SPEAKER_04 11:57

It is, it is. And even, you know, even though Darren is my other co-host, I basically said, look, I don't care if you're running a show called No Agenda, it's obviously not No Agenda anymore.

unknown 12:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

So I I will see what happens. I mean, that I don't know if you remember back about maybe a month and a half ago, something like that, maybe two months ago now. CSB posted a thing and added Adam on it and said, Oh, Sir Gene says that no agenda is worthless. Yeah, yeah. We just talked about that. Yeah. Which is not what I said. What I said is that it's its intrinsic value is in the two hosts, and specifically both hosts together. And the show, or the company, rather, that owns no agenda without those two hosts is worth very little. There's some value to the RSS feed independently of the show. There's some value in the newsletter mailing list independent of the show. So there's some value, but easily, I'd say 90% of the value of the business is gone when one of those hosts is no longer there. And I'm I'm definitely sticking to that, and that's based on many years in selling companies and uh helping people acquire companies.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

It's worth something to Adam for a business like this. He can build up another podcast, it won't be the same.

SPEAKER_04 13:26

But Adam's also built pod, I mean, he built No Agenda from Scratch, he built daily source code from scratch. He's built the show that he did with what was the guy's name, the the black dude out of uh East Coast there.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Mofax.

SPEAKER_04 13:40

Yeah, Mofax, he built that from scratch. Now he's been doing the show with what was it, Reverend Smith or whatever the guy's name is. Uh Pastor Jimmy. That's the one. Been doing that show. So there's a lot of shows that Adam has what his show with his wife. Like he started plenty of shows and they all grow, they all mature. And I don't think we need to compare like no agenda to anything else because John C. Dwarak is a very a very unique character on any show he was in, whether it was with Leo Laporte or whether it was uh his articles that we both talked about reading in our youth. He was he was a character. There's no two ways about it, and he added an awful lot to No Agenda. And it's not any insult to Adam to still say that the no agenda for me it's basically done with John being gone.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Yeah, but that doesn't mean you won't listen to what comes after or exactly. Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 14:36

I'm just saying the name doesn't have to have anything to do with no agenda. Obviously, I'm gonna listen to whatever Adam does next. You know, it it's because I'm curious, I'm I'm interested, I like the guy, so I'm always gonna check it out. Now, am I gonna listen to it religiously every week? Depends on the show. It depends on the topic, and certainly to some extent on the co-host if there is one. Would I listen to daily source code every episode like I used to? Absolutely. Daily source code was something I always look forward to because it's a combination of music, interesting off-beat topics, you know, wacky voicemails coming in from CSB so you could hear his actual voice. I mean, it's like all that stuff was an interesting part of daily source code, and I would be happy to listen to that stuff again. You know, uh, I listened to quite a few episodes. In fact, I think I was the first person to donate to Adam and Tina's show together, but I've kind of dropped off listening to it because it kind of turned into a little bit of a whine, and I don't know, like it's a chick podcast. Yeah, it kind of is chick podcast. So I I've kind of stopped listening to that, but I I certainly did in the beginning, and I I think that it was a well-done show. It just the the contents was not quite my interest. But either way, I I have full confidence that if Adam wants to take a break and just do nothing for a while and chill, he's more than entitled to do that. If he is one of those people that can't take a break and he also always has to be constantly doing something, he could do that. But I just I think you know, for a guy that's basically worked seven days a week, including Sundays, for 20 years, it's high time that he gets to decide what he wants to do.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Well, and you know, maybe the answer is just training. I know he's gonna be reticent to change up the format. But change up the format to where he's just doing it once a week, you know.

SPEAKER_04 17:03

Yeah, but I think if you change the format, you're not really doing the same show. Well, we've already said you're not doing the same show. Yeah, yeah. So point conceited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fine. Anyway, well, that's enough of that topic. Let's uh move on to other things.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Well, before we get off of that, did you see what No Bray posted? He I sent the link in in our little chat here inside Zencaster.

SPEAKER_04 17:34

But block of X on cameras.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Uh no, it's in the Zencaster chat.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

Oh, wow. I can't see that.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Anyway, he posted at Darren, Larry, and Adam that, you know, dude named Ben has a podcast too, but he's you know, your kind, so it might be a tough sell. Like, you know, anyway, but uh he responded favorably when I said I would do it if they ever needed a guest. So you traitor. What do you mean you would do it? I I would go do the like if for not the not like permanently, but like as a guest. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 18:08

You already do a podcast. It's uh it should be enough.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Well, when Adam asked me to be a guest, uh, you know, we'll have to skip that week.

SPEAKER_04 18:18

Yeah, well, that's fine. That's fine. I'm sure I can book more guests on this show, not a problem. Exactly. Why would you?

SPEAKER_00 18:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 18:28

Yeah. No, it cheated on me.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Well, I cheated first.

SPEAKER_04 18:32

I was like my uh my buddy uh who I've known now over

Twin Peaks Detour And Old Friends

SPEAKER_04 18:39

20 years. I think it's 22 years that Jesse and I have been playing video games together. Some sometimes more than others. But we were catching up and and he's on a business trip, so we were chatting as he was sitting in Twin Peaks and oogling the waitresses.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Yeah, I've never been a big fan of the restaurants. I just don't think they have very good food.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

You know, the only food I ever order at Twin Peaks is the chicken fried steak, and it's no worse there than anywhere else.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

You don't go to Twin Peaks for the chicken fried steak.

SPEAKER_04 19:14

I do. That's literally the only thing I order there. Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Maybe the only thing you order, but that's not why you go there. Well, I usually go there if somebody's coming in from out of town. You go there because you want to stare at the scenery.

SPEAKER_04 19:27

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you don't go there because the food is awesome, you go there because the waitresses are wearing revealing clothes. And in a college town, that's a good thing. In a non-college town, that's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Uh-huh. Yeah. Why is that?

SPEAKER_04 19:44

Because nobody wants well, I shouldn't say nobody. This guy definitely doesn't want to be looking at 40-year-old tits.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

Nope. The age matters less than other things.

SPEAKER_04 19:57

I like them natural and naturally perky. Thank you very much. See, I like when you like the big fat bags of inflated material.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

With a with that slight bit of teardrop shape, sag, you know?

SPEAKER_04 20:10

Yeah. Yeah, it's because you grew up watching porn. And I grew up looking at magazines. That's the difference.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

How is that a difference?

SPEAKER_04 20:19

Because in the magazines, they didn't have the fake boobs, they had natural boobs. In the porn, they always had fake boobs.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

Nah.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

When you're talking about that little teardrop shape on a double D, you're definitely taking talking about fake boobs. No, no, no, no. I've seen natural in real life like that.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Yeah, you are kind of gullible that way, I guess. Dude, I promise you. Anyway, all right, where do we want to go from here? Off the tits. Talking about breasts here.

SPEAKER_04 20:47

What else we got going on? I mean, it's been kind of a it's been mostly a week where I've watched gun-related news, not much else.

Campaign Money And Full Auto Hype

SPEAKER_04 20:56

So I've seen some stories that Brandon Herrera is running out of money. So anyone's interested in donating some to him. You know, his not him, his campaign. They're they're well they're using up all the money they're getting, is the point.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Yeah, but they also have a hell of a lead.

SPEAKER_04 21:16

Yeah, I'm not saying he's gonna lose. I'm saying that he's he's burned through all the money he's received. Apparently. Because they they have to on a monthly basis, you know, provide stats for that. So if anyone is interested in making sure that he's got sufficient money and or wants to I think it's too late to get on the fully automatic prize, which uh wasn't all I interested in anyway. But you can still get the challenge coins if you donate. The I have the OG one. Yeah, you you know the prize that they were they were raffling off. It it was the uh Ruger 556. Yeah, yeah. But which is not a particularly interesting gun, even though it's a machine gun.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Except it's uh I mean that right there makes it interesting, G.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

Uh I mean it's like it's like a Mac 10. I have zero interest in owning a full auto Mac 10. Not a good sell it.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

I would sell it and then go buy what I wanted. So you just want to I don't really any transferable machine gun is 10 grand at a minimum.

SPEAKER_04 22:25

Oh, it's more than that for sure. Yeah, I said that at a minimum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you sold that gun, you could probably get 20 for it.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

Okay, cool. I can buy a lot of cool shit with that.

SPEAKER_04 22:34

I I guess. I don't know. I just I wouldn't want to hang on to it. That's that was my only point. It's not the kind of gun I would be excited to have in full auto. That plus, I don't. No, that full auto is interesting at all right now, other than for resale, simply because what have we been seeing on all the FRT related products? Because not all of them are actually FRTs, even is first of all, the cost is way cheaper. Now you can get in starting with about 50 bucks. They've really come down. The other thing is that the firing rates on some of these are faster than the machine gun versions.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Well, but that's not necessarily a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 23:14

Well, I mean, like a P50 that runs 50 rounds faster. P50? P90, you mean? P90, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. I had mush on my brain here, obviously. P90 that runs because I'm thinking of 50 rounds faster speed. That would be cool. I mean, that why would you not want that? There was also, I remember this means I run out of ammo fast. Yeah, it's got 50 rounds. I mean, that's pretty good. There was also a version of the MP5 that Pinhead tested a while ago where they had a similar result to where the FRT was, I think, 25 rounds per minute faster. So I mean, full auto doesn't really, it's not like all banned and exciting like it used to be anymore. Because just about the time we're getting closer to where you should be able to start buying full auto without any kind of stamps is also the time where it's also somewhat been surpassed and is not really necessary anymore. So I don't know. I still have a binary trigger that you made me buy. I made you buy. Yeah. I think so. I'm blaming you. Well, you kept talking about it, so I bought one. Have you installed it? No, it's still in the box. Oh, it's it's actually not a binary trigger. It's a binary lower from the guys that make the trigger. So it's fully uh so Franklin Armory. Yeah, Franklin Armories, exactly. So it's their lower, it's still in the box. So I'll probably sell it.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

Yeah, I'm sure somebody will buy it. Yeah, like you.

SPEAKER_04 25:01

So Except I don't want an AR-15. No, no, you're too cheap for that anyway.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

So what? I I have what? I have an AR-10. I have a Tavor 7. I I don't exactly have cheap.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

Cheap is in the sense that you're always looking for a deal. You're not gonna buy something that's new in the box or anywhere near what I paid for it. You're gonna want to get half off. Well, duh. That's what I mean. That's what I mean by cheap. So it ain't gonna be you, but it'll be somebody like you that'll buy that thing. And I need to, I seriously need to start getting on that. And I've got a number of things that have just not gotten much use or any use that need to get liquidated.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Yeah. Well, so the flock cameras are getting torn down left and right, including by law enforcement. Which

Flock Cameras And Warrantless Tracking

SPEAKER_01 25:54

is great. We've got a cop up a sheriff up in North Texas that took him out of his county. Nice. I went and took him out of the county.

SPEAKER_04 26:04

Yeah, well, that's good. I think that most of these were illegally put on the county ter property because they were essentially sold to law enforcement. And I don't believe that I mean, uh, some law enforcement certainly would, but I don't believe law enforcement is the municipal group that has the rights to put up signage and poles in people's yards. And most of these things were put on easements of private properties. And you know, like the Department of Transportation might have that right, but police departments don't. They can't just stick a pole with a camera looking through your bedroom window, which a lot of these were doing. If you watch videos, there's an amazing number of these flock cameras that were directly pointed at people's bedrooms. Wonder why?

SPEAKER_01 27:03

I mean, you can guess speculate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:07

Yeah. And and apparently they that a lot of these are also, and this should not be a shock to anyone, once they're installed, no one bothers changing the default logins for any of them.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Well, and it's worse than that, the flock stuff was put out via API. Exposed that way, too. So there you go.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

I mean, it's just I I have no issues with cameras that are privately purchased and privately mounted on people's private property.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

I have problems with gun stores having cameras pointed at them.

SPEAKER_04 27:44

Wait, you mean cameras they don't own?

SPEAKER_01 27:47

Yeah, like flock cameras.

SPEAKER_04 27:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. So I don't care if the gun store has cameras. I'm okay with that. I don't need them reading and tracking my license plate. I mean, if you're on private property, dude, they can read everything they want. Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

And I would never go to that gun store again.

SPEAKER_04 28:06

You're going to a gun store where you park three blocks away just to walk to it so they don't get your driver's license plate?

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Yeah, I'm not playing that game.

SPEAKER_04 28:15

Yeah, bullshit. You are parking in their lot. There's no way you're walking a block just to avoid having them know what kind of car you drive.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

No, I just wouldn't go to that gun store ever again as soon as I saw it.

SPEAKER_04 28:28

But you don't think the current gun store you go to has a camera?

SPEAKER_01 28:31

They do not have a flock camera.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

No, I'm not talking about flock. I'm talking about private property cameras. That's different. It's not going into a database. I know. That's why I'm saying I have no problem with private cameras. And somehow you're you're hearing flock camera. I didn't say flock, I said private cameras. I have no problem with anybody putting up their own private shit. Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Flock is a private camera.

SPEAKER_04 28:58

But flock should not exist because the government has no purpose whatsoever in mounting cameras in easements. Like, I just don't think that that's a right they have. I don't care which level of government. That that's not something that they should be allowed to do. You want to look at my license plate? Pull up a satellite and use that. Or get a f anyway. Get a warrant? Was that what you were gonna say?

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Yeah, if you're if you're not on a public road. Yeah. Yeah, they should, yes. Yeah, you know, because you then you get into stuff like curtilage and everything.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

Even even on public roads, the idea of cameras that are permanently mounted to observe those public roads by the government, I think should be something that should be legal. Because it is the only way around that, in my in my view of US law, is to effectively have an on-off switch on the camera that gets only activated when there's a warrant in place. So when you get a warrant that says there'll be a car driving down this road in the next five minutes, and you turn the camera on and you have five minutes before and five minutes after the anticipated drive of that car, you can record that piece and then you turn it off. It's just the same rules that apply to wiretap. You want to tap a phone? If you don't see the person on the phone that you have a warrant for, you you have to cut that recording within five minutes. You don't have an automatic, oh, we'll just record everything and then you know listen in later to see if our guy ever actually talked on the phone.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

The warrant has limits. And what Flock is doing is warrant. Completely warrantless. Tell the NSA that. Well, the NSA is different. I'm talking about everybody else. The the NSA, the NSA doesn't go out and arrest people. No, but they can ruin people's lives. Usually the only lives that get ruined by NSA are lives of people that were dating or married to people at the NSA. Those people definitely have their lives ruined. Oh, and I guess if you if you take data from the NSA and make it public, you're probably gonna have a life that's ruined. Although, you know, arguably not that ruined. But there's nothing that gives the authority to a police chief or sheriff or anybody in their capacity as city or state or county or even state police to do blanket surveillance by putting up permanent cameras on easements of private properties. Like there's nothing that ain't no way, no-how, as my friend, one of my friends would say, do they have the right to do that? And so, in my opinion, all these fly cameras are illegal. And it's just sad that it's taken this long for people to go, wait a minute, what are these things doing? Because this is what we saw in the UK. The UK introduced CCTV cameras, starting with their more densely populated areas like London, 25 years ago, where literally any offense, no matter how minor or major, was captured on government-owned CCTV cameras. See, in the US, what happens if there's some kind of incident, the police go and look for the closest business to that location and say, hey, did you happen to have any cameras outside that you could see this location from? And can we have a copy of that video? And that's the way it's worked forever. And it's a it's I think a good compromise. Right? So if there happened to be a camera and if that's if that camera has recordings that go back to when the incident occurred, sure. You know, get a warrant for that. But to put up cameras that whose job is literally to just record everything just in case they did they do not have the authority to do that.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Well, you know, there are citizens going out there and doing God's work and helping drive up the cost.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

Yeah. One creative one I saw was somebody that had uh bundles of like hot air balloons or not hot air, like helium balloons or whatever that they were beautifying their neighborhood by tying those to flock camera poles. Yeah. That's nice. You know, it's nice when a city has a bunch of like balloons tied to regularly spaced poles to just beautify the area. Or I'm sure there'll be some Christmas decoration that'll kind of pop up in similar locations.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

I like the one where they used expanding foam. I didn't see that. Yeah, they used expanding foam to fill the lenses.

SPEAKER_04 34:11

Well, that doesn't really beautify the neighborhood, though.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:16

I mean, if you're gonna do that, you might as well just use black car spray paint. You know, if you if your only goal is to just make the lens not be see-through. Yeah. I I like the creative things. I like the guy that sat underneath the flock camera with a sign on the on a stick that happened to be just the right length to have the entire sign be right in front of the flock camera. Yes. Until the cop showed up and the rest of them.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

But which how are the can they fucking arrest him?

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

You know, it's usually resist resisting arrests, usually. Right, but it my point is he's not damaging the camera.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

Of course not. He's not touching it. Yeah, he's just sitting there protesting, which is his right to do on a public easement. But again, like there's two issues here. One is the fly cameras, the other one is when have the cops ever followed the law.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

Yeah. Like you're you might beat the charge, but you're gonna not. Well, they don't even care.

SPEAKER_04 35:21

That's the thing, is there's a point at which the arrest is the punishment. No, no one expects you to be sentenced guilty on any of this stuff. It all they're doing is making you spend a night in jail. That's it. And if they're assholes, they're gonna arrest you on Friday afternoon, and then you're gonna spend three days in jail. And then the uh on Monday, you will be released because you don't have any charges from the DA. And you have zero recourse because nothing happened. You weren't charged. Right. Except, you know.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Except for three days in jail. Three days in jail.

SPEAKER_04 36:01

Yeah, but that's the that's the thing, is like that's what we ought to reform. It's it's this sort of punitive punishment through arrest, even if there's no legitimate cause for the actual crime to go to court, you know, if there is no crime, which happens all the time. I mean, how many of how many thousands of those videos have I seen? I'm sure you as well.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:26

Of of people literally doing nothing illegal and quite often simply saying, What are you arresting me for? Or what would you suspect me of doing? And the police answer is get out of the car, sir. Get out of the car, sir. All right, I'm gonna break your window now because you're refusing to get out of the car and you're tempering with my arrest of you. Yeah. I mean, it's just bullshit trumped up charges left and right.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

Did I ever tell you about the constable that tried to open my car door?

unknown 36:56

No.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

So I got I

Police Abuse And The Arrest Trap

SPEAKER_01 36:59

was going to work and was driving to a power plant, and I know where this speed trap is, right? I know where it's at. So I am doing 70, probably a little over. Um probably like 75 into 70. And I know this is coming up, and I got to get down under 60 because I know this is a speed trap, know this is where they sit. So as soon as I crest the hill and know where I'm at, I let off the cruise control and start braking. And I watched my speed, and as soon as I got under 60, I stopped, you know, I stopped accelerating and looked up and had not yet passed the 60 mile an hour speed limit sign. So he pulls me over, black cop, and says, son, do you know why I pulled you over? I said, no, sir, I have no idea. Well, you were doing 75 in a uh in a 60. I said, no, sir, I was doing 75 in a 70. And he, well, I I disagree with you, son, goes and writes me the ticket and he hands it to me and says, Here, sign this. And I said, sir, I wasn't speeding. I I slowed down. I know what I did. And he said, Are you gonna sign it or not? And I said, Well, sir, and he immediately jerks the car door and tries to open it. And it was locked. And he said, Are you gonna sign this or are you gonna wait for the judge? This was a Friday. And I said, I will sign it under duress. And he goes to jerk the door again. I said, It's still locked. Sign it and hand it off. I uh I showed up to dispute the ticket and I said, I I explained to the judge what I was trying to explain to the cop, and the cop's there, and you know, testifying that I sped, you know, was speeding and so on. And the apparently this constable was not very well liked because the judge just said he basically believed me, reprimanded the cop, and threw out the ticket.

SPEAKER_04 39:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

But the cop did show up, so it was a was a little bit of a threat.

SPEAKER_04 39:13

Not surprising. Yeah, a lot of times they don't bother.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:17

Yeah. No, I I have every single time I've gone to court, I've I've won in court for every speeding ticket that I've challenged. There have been a couple of speeding tickets that I didn't challenge because I mean they got me by all rights, right? I know exactly what I was doing and how fast I was going when I saw the cop, and you look down at your speedometer, you're like, oh shit. It's it, you know, I fucked up. I'll take that, I'll pay it. I don't care. In fact, I remember one year I had a couple of those, and I had my personal assistant go and take drivers classes on my behalf. That's just mean, dude. That's not mean. I wasn't gonna do it, and I'm paying her anyway. So she I had her do it, and so I got my tickets rolled off, which is nice. But and she learned how to be a better driver. I think it's a win-win. How's that not a win-win? Because you don't learn shit from those classes. You and I both know it. That's why I didn't want to do it. But she probably learned something's a female driver. Oh yeah. Well, all I know is she got a passing score. That's all I cared about on the test. Yeah, it's hard to get people these days that'll do a good job of passing things for you. Especially DNA tests. Well, yeah, that's a whole separate topic. Do you know what do you know what the highest recorded blood alcohol level was in a person?

Wild BAC Records And Breathalyzers

SPEAKER_04 40:43

No. Through a cop test? What? Well, tell people what the normal one is, because I don't even know. 0.08 is the legal limit. Legal limit, right. And then usually if you're like at point oh nine, they'll want you to go to jail. The highest recorded was 1.1. Can you imagine how are you how are you alive at 1.1?

SPEAKER_01 41:10

I I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 41:12

This is this is in Poland. Oh, that explains they build them differently out there. Like they're, you know, kid poops out of its his mother, and uh first thing they do is wash him in vodka and get them used to that. But yeah, apparently that that's according to Guinness Book of World Records, that is the highest recorded blood alcohol level of a living person is 1.1. That's crazy. I think they may have found some people that were dead that had higher levels, but not nobody alive. Yeah, it's insane. Like, I think the highest I've ever had is probably right around 0.1. And you're really feeling it at 0.1. Like I mean, yeah. You know, like you you can tell that you're not in normal spirits here. You could you could buy a breathblazer pretty cheap, they're not expensive. So sometimes fun to have one to check where you are. Back when I used to drink, I don't drink anymore, so they're all zeros these days, but back when I used to drink. Back in the day. Mm-hmm. Back in the day. Yeah, I went to the graduation ceremony of a first level whiskey somalier class recently in my capacity as a second level graduate of a whiskey somalier school. So it was kind of a like the the higher-up graduates attending the graduation ceremony for the youngsters. But you didn't drink. No, I didn't drink, no. I was the only one not drinking too, which is also why I haven't advanced to level three ever, is because by the time the level three class that I could take was offered, I was already not drinking.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

And you could, in theory. Is there a reason why you're just not drinking?

SPEAKER_04 43:14

Yeah, I stopped drinking during COVID. It's been six years since I've had a drink. But why?

Why Gene Quit Drinking

SPEAKER_04 43:21

Because I'm a social drinker. So what I realized during COVID is that if I am alone, I'd have zero interest in drinking. Okay, that's fine, but you were no longer under lockdown and shit. No, I'm not, but I got used to it. And what I realized after not drinking for about six months is I felt better. Like I felt like I had more energy. I felt like less groggy and tired, and you know, just less of an asshole. Because you gotta remember, when I was drinking, I was drinking every week. Not every day, not recently, anyway. You know, when I was in my 20s, I was drinking every day. But in my 40s, I was drinking for sure every week. A lot of times it was every day, actually, because of business lunches and having expense accounts and a lot of things like that. I wasn't drinking large quantities, but I was drinking regularly. And as somebody that is both overweight and has diabetes, alcohol is just yet another thing that's not good for me. So when I gave it up without trying during COVID, it seemed like this is something I should continue on past COVID. And I I don't regret stopping drinking. And plus, you know how much money this has saved me? I guess you ought to appreciate that. You like saving money. I like drinking. Yeah, I know you like drinking. So yeah, I uh I've been happy enough to not drink. Plus, one of these days I still gotta get you a bunch of alcohol or to your place.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

Yeah, I mean I'll take it. What do you think of the stories of the Lincoln? The what?

Aircraft Carriers And Coed Consequences

SPEAKER_01 45:08

The aircraft carrier, Lincoln. I don't know anything about it. What about it? Apparently a sailor jumped overboard because the conditions are just so bad.

SPEAKER_04 45:17

How bad could they be that he would jump overboard? That seems not smart.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

Right? So, I mean, I I every now and then, like if you talk to Navy guys, it happens.

SPEAKER_04 45:31

People fall overboard or they jump overboard.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

Hello?

SPEAKER_04 45:36

Did we lose Ben?

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Sorry, no, I was reading something. Yeah, anyway. Yeah. No, the Lincoln. The Lincoln is this is not abnormal for people to start getting stir crazy on a long deployment. The conditions on an aircraft carrier aren't great, but they're not terrible either, you know. I I don't understand.

SPEAKER_04 46:11

That seems weird to me.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Well, they're saying like the toilets are they're nasty and there's mold in the showers and stuff, but that's the sailor's job to go through and clean, and it's a local discipline issue. That's exactly right. And you know, they're getting mail in and out every day. So if they're running short of toiletries or something like that, have your family mail something, it'll get to you. You know, and I think the problem, I think the problem is that they're in contact with their families so much.

SPEAKER_04 46:39

Yeah, yeah. I think that's exactly it. They should stop that. Just stop all contact. You're not allowed to communicate. The other problem is that, especially on aircraft carriers, you have some of the highest incidence of female soldiers' pregnancies of any branch of the military. It's it's something around 30% of all the females get pregnant. Now, some of those get terminated, some of those get uh they they're not terminated, and the the women end up washing out. But the the amount of sex that is going on that is unprotected sex on aircraft carriers, especially is insane. It is like it is over 30% is the number I remember. I don't remember if it was 31 or 32 or what, but it was over 30% of the women serving aircraft carriers will get pregnant. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_01 47:34

Well, it's uh part of them uses it as a way to get off.

unknown 47:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:38

They'll be sent home. I think there's definitely that. But also, like, this is what happens when you put highest level of testosterone men in their early 20s together with women in their early 20s who are at the most peak of attractiveness and pheromones to attract guys to get them pregnant. Like, hello, what did you expect? Why would you ever have a military branch that is coed that is just retarded? Yeah. It's it's bad enough when they're serving as nurses or you know, doctorettes and stuff, but it's certainly not something where you want them full-on half the ship is female.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

And not only that, when you're in a combat scenario, it's a high stress scenario. So what does what does what happens when you have a high stress scenario, Gene?

SPEAKER_04 48:28

I mean, usually people start running an emotional drive rather than intelligence.

SPEAKER_01 48:34

Yeah, and what does that mean?

SPEAKER_04 48:37

Well, different things for different people. I mean, what are you getting at?

SPEAKER_01 48:41

I'm getting at when your life is in danger and you're surviving procreation is a normal response.

SPEAKER_04 48:47

It depends. It's it's not necessarily a normal response in actual high stress scenarios, it's a normal response when the high stress goes away. But in high stress, your body actually does not want to engage in that kind of activity because it's not a good time to waste energy on procreation. Well, but when you have those, you know, the the removal of stress, when you have the peace. Right.

SPEAKER_01 49:16

But if you're on an aircraft carrier and you're running a stressful job in a stressful day, and then you go to downtime, what do you think they're doing on those?

SPEAKER_04 49:26

What stressful job are you referring to? No stressful job.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Well, if you're involved with flight operations and the cadence that would Okay, disagree.

SPEAKER_04 49:35

Uh no. This is no more stressful than any other high repetitive action activity. The pilots love it. That's why they got into it, that's why they signed up for this shit. And if you're talking about like air traffic control or deck crew, yeah. I mean, those are those are jobs that high physical demand jobs. I don't think there's any more stress in those jobs than others. Why would there be? Because it's physically dangerous? It is it's it is physically dangerous, but that's again, that's what you signed up for.

SPEAKER_01 50:12

Well, I mean, you saw the marine drill sergeant that's a petite, flat-chested

Boot Camp Stress And SEAL Fortitude

SPEAKER_01 50:19

woman saying that you know, you need to be kind, we will be kind to you, we'll treat you with respect. If you're abused, you will report it. It's a bullshit. I know. It's it's this downfall of the military. Absolutely. Well, Pete Heggs needs to go and pull her out of there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:36

And he's done that to quite a few of them, but you know, not everybody. They they've come up with reasons.

SPEAKER_01 50:42

Here's the problem is this is like look if you join the military, you should expect to be yelled at. You should be expect to be degraded and then built back up. Like that was the entire theory behind boot camp is we're gonna break you mentally and build you back up into what we want you to be.

SPEAKER_04 50:59

Well, that's part of it. I mean, that's what they tell you. The the reality is yelling and the and the uh the what can be interpreted as abuse, which isn't really abuse, but those are what's called stress simulations to get you to be more familiar and comfortable with actual stress of war, actual stress of battlefield, which you have zero control over, is being simulated in an environment where you also have zero control over, which is boot camp, but one where your physical safety is still gonna be a top priority for the people that are dishing out the stress onto you. Like it's a it is the closest way you can come to it. There are certain things that we do now that we didn't use, like we can have simmunition, so we can actually have people, you know, shoot in kill boxes and learn how to deal with the stress of that environment while managing your aim to be good. You know, the things that we weren't doing in World War II, for example, but you still can't quite match what the actual stress of combat is with things like that are stress simulators like that. So there's nothing wrong with getting yelled at because I mean that's that's the thing, is you have to think like there are multiple reasons why you could be yelled at. One is if you're a moron doing something stupid, but another reason if if you're not doing anything wrong, but somebody is trying to create an environment to get you used to behaving in a repetitive, controlled manner through a high stress scenario. And shit, dude, we did that as uh firearms instructors. That was like normal for civilian training as well. People paid thousands of dollars to be yelled at. Including me. I paid thousands of dollars to be yelled at.

SPEAKER_01 53:05

I'm sure you did. Yeah. Little did we know Gene uh was more the dommy thim dom type. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 53:15

Yeah, we're going in a whole different direction there. Well, I mean, you'd pay it to get yelled at. I figured it'd be that. Uh-huh. Yeah. So it I think it's a it looks like something that may to people that don't understand the purpose of yelling at somebody when you're first training them in the military. I can see how it looks like something that shouldn't happen. But the reality is if they don't do it during training, you're gonna freeze up and go into a fetal position, and your buddy that's next to you is gonna get killed because you didn't do your job. So, and then, you know, part of it too, like if you look at the name the the seals.

SPEAKER_01 54:08

Oh, the yeah, the situations they put them so yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 54:12

It's again, same general reason for doing Hell Week, but also that is what lets you cut people or self-cut, as generally happens there, when they ring the bell three times, people that just cannot deal with two weeks of stress of a high stress, low sleep environment. So it's much better to have them be not in the SEALs and just you know, some job in the Navy. Or maybe not even the Navy. I mean, I think a lot of those guys leave the Navy if they've if they don't make it to the SEAL teams. But then having people that can't deal with the stress. The the guys that actually make it through, they're not the biggest, they're not the most muscular, they're not you know, anything. They they look more normal than anything, but what they have is a certain strength of fortitude. Mental fortitude, exactly. They have a strength of will that most people do not. They're able to just carry on and push through pain, physical pain, mental pain, lack of sleep, lack of calories, feeling cold and wet for 18 hours a day just to get through that because tomorrow's a new day, and you know, making it through today means that you get to be able to do your actual job tomorrow. And a lot of people like the the romance sort of of the the seals and how you know people look up to their skills and everything, but I think that's the biggest skill that they share in common that they have is just that mental fortitude. Everything else can be tr can be taught.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

So do we want to talk about midterms? Yeah, let's so I actually think that

Midterms And DSA Turnout Math

SPEAKER_01 56:23

the midterms are pretty much in the bag. Okay. So with a lot of these DSA people getting elected, the socialists, yeah. Yeah, I don't think they can win in the the general. So I tend to agree with that, but you never know. I I I just don't think they can. So I think that's a good thing. Like Talarico. Talarico is polling, you know, pretty close to shit. What's our attorney general's name? Ken Paxton. Ken Paxson, yeah, there you go. But I I think in reality, when people see what Talerico actually believes, I mean he calls himself a Christian, he went to seminary and all this.

SPEAKER_04 57:08

But the thing I sent you today where he he says God is not Christian. No, I did not.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

But he also believes there's many genders and lots of other things.

SPEAKER_04 57:19

And he thinks God is a woman.

SPEAKER_01 57:21

Yeah, and he actually quotes out of the book of Enoch, which is not accepted by most people. So, yeah, there's I I I just I unless I've got a really wrong read, I think the polling data has been saturated. We tell that one story about one of the polling companies was artificially inflating DSA candidates. And where we've seen them win, it's been very narrow. And I think they have that base of support, but I don't think the the Democrats that voted for the non-DSA candidate are not gonna vote for the DSA candidate. I just think they're not gonna vote. I think they're gonna have a the Democrats are gonna have a massive turnout problem in those elections.

SPEAKER_04 58:05

I think the centralist the centralist, the centrist NPR listening Democrat types are gonna stay home.

SPEAKER_01 58:14

That's my point. Yeah, and that's gonna that's gonna be a huge turnout problem for the Democrats.

SPEAKER_04 58:19

Because they they are starting to realize that the the next generation Democrat socialist policies are hurting them personally. Like, you know, the the Manhattan crowd where they're talking about different tax rates, condominiums, depending on the square footage of it. Well, that you know, all the rich people don't like that.

SPEAKER_01 58:46

Well, or if you have two homes, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another one they've been doing. Yeah, the multi-home who does the podcast with Kara Swisher? I don't know. I don't watch that. Scott Galloway. Scott Galloway.

SPEAKER_04 58:56

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a socialist.

SPEAKER_01 58:59

Yeah, yeah, but he got outed by Mendami because he his mom's home is in his name. Oh, yeah. And he was on that list, so you know he's not happy with Mendami. No, but it's poetic justice.

SPEAKER_04 59:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. No, and uh that's the thing is you know, my niece lives in New York, and she unfortunately is one of these people, and she doesn't really listen to NPR, but she is a you know, 30-something liberal, wealthy person. And I don't I don't know. I mean, I don't know what will so far she still supports Mandami, but I I suspect there's a limit to it. Like when she personally starts feeling some of these negative effects.

SPEAKER_01 59:46

But I don't get it, man. I I think Yeah, so there's Fox News has an article right now. Democrats who never voted Republican back Rogers over El Said. Really? Razor close race. Yes. Interesting. So they're there are Democrats coming out and backing him. Well, that's good. El Said is they're literally signs, they're literally signs that are Democrats for Mike Rogers for U.S. Senate.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:16

So I think he's got a hell of a shot. Well, and I kind of wonder if the have you been following the LSA No, no, no. But I kind of wonder if the DSA candidates aren't a GOP MAGA insert, propping them up, you know. Hey, if we can get these guys to win, then we're we're set.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:39

Anyway, what what's what do I need to know about El Said?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:42

Well, so he was born in Detroit, so he is not an import directly, he's a next generation.

unknown 1:00:49

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:50

Abdullah Rahman Mohammed El Said.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:53

Of course, Muhammad's gotta be in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:54

You gotta have Muhammad in there, exactly. He's a uh public health professor. So he's he's not a doctor, but he was in the health industry, I guess. Social epidemiology. Epidemiology. There you go. Social epidemiology. But watching his videos, there is more and more stuff that comes out on like a weekly basis of him saying things that were clearly un-American and justifying.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:36

Is anyone surprised?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:37

No, not at all. Uh I mean he he's very much the candidate of the what is that group out of Turkey called? Muslim Brotherhood. Yeah, Muslim Brotherhood, exactly. Exactly. Either that or the Gulinists. No, no, no, it's the Muslim Brotherhood, yeah. So I don't know, man. It's the that area is heavily Islamist, so he could still get elected, but hopefully not.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:11

Well, we'll see.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:12

Because he's running for Senate. This is not like a little two-year term for you know, house. This is this would be literally one percent of the votes of the Senate if he gets elected.

unknown 1:02:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:26

So while we're talking about Turkey, what the fuck is Israel doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:31

Uh with what?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:33

About to start a fucking war with Turkey, who's a member of NATO.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:37

Yeah, fuck

Turkey, Israel, And Islamist Power

SPEAKER_04 1:02:38

Turkey.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:39

Right, but all right, this is maybe the one area where an Article V might be okay and authorized, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:47

Yeah, don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:49

It would just put it put the US in such an awkward position.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:54

Because the US would just simply leave NATO as they should have done a long time ago. So maybe this is exactly what we need to have happen. Maybe, but Turkey's been a problem child for many, many years. Even before Urgana, goddamn it, I can't put that on.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:09

Erdogan.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:10

Erdogan's, yeah, came in.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:12

Erdogan has been in power for a very long time, and he has done the vast majority of the damage to uh but he even before that they're they were troublemakers.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:21

There's ever since they occupied Cyprus, which they don't have a right to, but have nonetheless been there now for about 50 years.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:35

Half of it, but yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:38

Cyprus is still its own country.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:40

Yeah, yeah, under occupation, exactly. That's been an issue. Part of the reason that we had so much trouble with with Iraq also had to do with the Turkey-based insurgents going and aggravating Saddam Hussein in Iraq, who incidentally was remember, we were on his side, he was buying American weapons, coming to the US and smoking, you know, cigars with the president during the Iran-Iraq war.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, so he was arguing with the Taliban and everybody else.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:20

Yeah. So Turkey, in some ways, is a much less of a in-your face supporter of these radical Islamist groups like Iran. So Iran doesn't make any, you know, like they're out in public about it. Everybody knows that they're paying the bills for a lot of these groups. Groups in Syria, groups in Lebanon, groups in Israel, all these places. Turkey is not far behind. They're just a little more backroom, back money dealing.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Well, so is Qatar.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:00

Yeah, yeah, Qatar is as well. But I, you know, it's it's interesting because most of the Qatar-related stuff I've heard is that Qatar is basically laundering money for for Iran. So I don't know if it's like if that's true or not, but that's generally where I hear info about Qatar. Not that Qatar is on its own doing all this stuff. So I don't know. Like, if Iran goes, does Qatar still support these Islamists or not?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:31

I don't think so. I don't think so either.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:33

Yeah, I don't think they would.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:34

I think they'll be put into a position where it would be too obvious what they are doing on the world stage and the world would tolerate it.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:42

I don't think they're in it from a zealot standpoint. I think they're just going with whatever the flow is, and they'll flip if they want to.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

So you don't think that they're zealots?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:54

Qatar?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:56

No, no, I don't know. Not like the Houthis. You don't see a bunch of Qatari people protesting in the streets to burn down the US and kill the great Satan.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:14

I mean, they know that money's more important than religion.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:18

I think the general population is in Qatar is not as as big as zealots because most of them aren't even necessarily Muslim. They're imports. Both UAE and Qatar, the majority of the population isn't native. So that's that's a tempering. But my point is that's a tempering factor. You don't have that neuron. I think if you reduce the population to just the Emirati or the Qataris, and they weren't uh under. the rule that they are now, I think the sentiment among those people is there.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:52

Yeah, I I don't know, man. They're they like to play all the sides. That's one thing I can say about Qatar. Like they they they like negotiating deals, being mediators, whether it's Israel Hamas, whether it's Russia and Ukraine, whether it's Lebanon, whether it's Syria, like all these things that they've always tried to play that like, hey we're impartial, we don't, you know we'll do whatever. But I think ultimately the guys that own the country, the ruling family, I can't remember, was it the what is that family called? The Tani? The Tani family. They see the benefit in in having a enough stability to be able to use their money. Fair enough. And I don't think that's the case with the Houthis, for example. Or or in obviously in Afghanistan. Like that's not a rational ruling governance group. That that's a very much a religious Islamist you know I don't know how to describe them. But you know what I mean. I do. It's a different type of Muslim. It's a different type of like you can be a Muslim from a country that does on this from the DSA. Uh because we started talking about what's his face? El Said. El Said yeah so I don't know man it's Texas has its own Muslim problems but obviously Michigan is probably the first state which which Adam and I kind of got into it a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:46

Oh yeah yeah because you know he he's of the opinion that this isn't that big of a deal we've got time and all this and you know he was talking to Pastor Jimmy and saying this and it's like well the problem isn't necessarily Muslims you know it's it's Sharia you know and Sharia shouldn't you know it should be subjugated to the way communism is you know the the way I look at it isn't the religion being impacted but the they're two in the same right they're so tied together. Like Christianity is a religion. I'll send you what I said Adam earlier Muslim Muslims are you know Islam is a governance system per parading as a religion much like communism. We've drawn those and communists are not protected under civil liberty laws. That's that's the one noise they made they left out Muslims.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:50

Yeah yeah so this is the I said this to Adam earlier today I I I know that he's got a soft spot from Muslims for some reason so I I like to every week send them something like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:04

Part of it's Pastor Jimmy so Pastor Jimmy was pre if you listen to his show they played a clip from the sermon and you know hey you know and they they're a big ministry church and I get that because we're we're called to do that. But instead of going out into the world and preaching we brought the world to you right but I what do you mean I don't know what that means like he's saying this is an opportunity to go proselytize. To the Muslims?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:34

Yes well how are you gonna get their IQs up first? That's a whole different argument I'm on the side of the goats here goat assholes matter exactly goat assholes matter because you know it's not just the female oh yeah I know I know they don't I think they prefer the males actually uh they got horns to hang on to yeah the Islam is absolutely not a religion it is a a system of living that includes a prescribed religion component along with a political component and its own set of ethics or lack thereof as many of us would call it it it is all-encompassing and it has as its publicly admitted core the desire to either convert or eliminate every non-Muslim person in the world now you know I'm not a big fan of proselytization in general but at least with the the people that do that like the Mormons and and certain Christian sects you know they're like they'll try and convince you to join their religion but if you don't at least not in today's day and age they're not gonna go and kill you. Now during the Spanish Inquisition that rules were a little different. But at least today like they'll either try and convert you or they'll leave you alone the Muslims will try and convert you while secretly planning to kill you because that's the more likely scenario than conversion. And they know that the surest way to convert the whole nation is to kill a sufficient number of people of that nation for the rest to then pick the conversion option. Yes or pay a slave and they well that that's also temporary. But that that is something that they've literally done in Spain not that long ago I mean it's long ago compared to television and phones but not that long ago in human history that no one in Spain seems to be remembering as Spain is being currently invaded by Muslim hordes.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:01

Well Europe it's time to grow some balls the uh that region of we need we we need to start a Reconquista we'll start with Minnesota oh God and then go from there.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:13

Dude that that's I was shocked at how fast that went and when Minnesota changed its flag from the one that I grew up with the the flag that I remember hanging in school when you recite the Pledge of Allegiance that flag got replaced by the Somali flag it's mind blown. It's it's amazing and then of course they'll try well that's not technically the Somali no it's not you're right it's the flag of the particular tribe of the politician from Minnesota. Yeah that's exactly what it is it's it's the regional flag within Somalia from what's her face is where her parents came from Ilhan Omar they literally put a new flag on that state under the guise of like well you know the farmers and and our the Minnesota flag and the animals with the deer running and everything like none of that represents Minnesota. The Somali flag is a better example of what Minnesota should look like my God Alright

YouTube Side Hustle Numbers

SPEAKER_04 1:14:19

what else you got Gene what else going on oh so you know I've been making videos for video games or making videos for YouTube using video games that's going pretty well I I've now gone over a hundred thousand views this month so far over 14,000 hours of watched video yes that's pretty good right so making progress getting getting very very good stats from YouTube on my videos they they think I'm doing a good job press the board you know I still don't have the subscriber numbers that this becomes an actual job but as far as supplements are you gonna get a play button Gene am I hitting the play button what do you mean are you gonna get a play button oh am I gonna well I mean if I stick with it long enough I will yeah but dude as a like a hobby that actually generates money for you like if if I never grew at all like if next month was exactly like this month it's like an extra six to seven thousand bucks a year. If I keep growing at the rate that I'm growing this month which is about 10% more 10% more subscribers and about 300% more views over last month if I keep growing at this rate it's gonna be like six months until that's more like 12 grand a year. And that you could buy some fun computer toys with that. But how many hours a day are you spending doing this? Well here's the thing I'm not spending what are you making per hour what are you making per hour? Well it's uh it's absurdly low per hour of course no it's that's more than pennies it's dollars per hour but it's well I tell you like minimum wage like a 20 minute 20 let's say half hour video will make like 30 bucks okay so all right it's not much but again my point is that this is not a job this is a this is a hobby much like golfing going shooting guns doing gunsmithing working any other kind of hobby or even playing video games is a hobby except that because I'm publishing what I'm doing it's also generating income and it makes every piece of computer related equipment that I buy a write off yeah deductible as part of this anything else on that?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:58

No no I just thought I'd share. So did you see the Axios report about the strait? No and so the Axios reporting Strait of America you mean? Yeah yeah well and you know what

Strait Of Hormuz And China Pressure

SPEAKER_01 1:17:10

I think there might be some truth to that that Trump is hinting at but apparently the tr the Trump administration has been able to move out at this point they're up to about 15 million barrels of oil a day. So if they're moving that it was 20 million when the strait was just open but that also included some Iranian oil. Yeah this is minus Iranian oil that's that's the beauty of it is like yeah we're starting to move oil out but not the Iranian ones so the oil you know it's not quite back to pre-war levels but it's it's it's getting close and you know Iran is totally cut off financially at this point and I like they're not paying the troops dude at some point in time this is gonna break and I I think we can outlast them and I think you know we can really this is degrading China it's it's it's helping Russia from an oil price standpoint but it's hurting them from a weapons delivery standpoint. Yeah for sure you know there's lots of stuff here and with the Ukrainians attacking the Iranian ship the other day and the whatever sea like I think Trump has really made a strong move here. And I and I I I would not be surprised if at the end of this we have a Guantanamo Bay type scenario on the Iranian side of the strait and we do control it.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:45

Yeah we get we get well for sure we get that island. What is it Lafrog Island or whatever it is Karg LaGland yeah we for sure should get that I think that the man it would be so great if Iran even if it didn't fully fall but if it was in genuine civil war before the midterms just so everyone can just point to it and say see Trump told you that would be awesome. They're obviously doing everything they can to last past that because they know that you know ultimately they don't have the capacity to outlast the U.S. All they can hope for is that with the help of China that Trump loses support in U.S.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:32

government that's their only hope at this point well it's shocking to me that China has not lifted a finger.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:41

I don't know what the hell conversation Trump had with she when he was out there but man must have been an interesting conversation because you're right China hasn't done shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:53

China has lost 40% of their energy imports over this and they they forced everyone to go to electric vehicles just so they can keep going.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:02

Hey if you don't have oil you burn coal and turn it into electricity well except they have to import their coal. Yeah but that's coming from Russia.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:10

No no no no no the biggest air the biggest the place they get the most of their coal from is actually Australia. Really? I didn't know Australia had a lot of coal oh my god yes really and Australia could you know we could probably persuade Australia to cut them off. It's under sand coal or what where's it Australia is what do you mean it's like a big desert thing the inner portion of the continent yes but the outer portion they've got the dude Australia has Alps you recognize this right no there's the Australian Alps there's skiing in Australia I've never heard of such a thing I think you're making this look it up look it up I know New Zealand has that but I don't recall Australia having that Australia has I don't know man it's Australia seemed like a cool place until they got rid of their guns and then it all became pussies skiing in Australia takes place during the Southern Hemisphere's winter June to September across New South Wales Victoria and Tasmania. Well yeah Tasmania I believe that sure that's an island off the coast yeah right but New South Wales Victoria maybe it's right there I don't trust Wikipedia oh Jesus Christ anyway so we could like I I think we have a lot of levers that we could play with China and for instance if China declares war on Taiwan I think we could easily go to the Australians and say cut off the coal I think that's that's probably they know that as well as anybody yeah that's my point. So we've blocked their oil we can cut this off yeah then Russia may take their side but there's only so much Russia can do.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:56

Yeah Russia's got its own problems. I mean the amount of bombs and missiles and drones exploding in Moscow now is insane.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:03

Why the hell are the Ukrainians targeting the Russian equivalent of Amazon?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:09

I know and why is Russia targeting shopping centers in Kiev like what the hell are they I mean they like they blew up like a health food market. The Russians yeah no the Ukrainians blew up one in Moscow oh okay well did a tit for tat. I don't know man I don't I don't know I'm not in those meetings I mean you're the KGB handler dude in things to me this this war was mismanaged as far as I'm concerned. See I I thought you were more read in than that no I'm not I'm not it it makes no sense I've lost any kind of semblance of being able to predict anything at this point. I don't have no idea what the hell they're trying to do I have no idea what they're gonna do. And that goes for both sides frankly because I don't know what Ukraine's end goal here is. Do they want to take over Russia now too? I don't know I mean sometimes it looks like that's kind of their goal here it's not a it's not really super defensive actions when they're mostly bombing the other country so I don't know man. It's thankfully we have other more interesting wars to look at that one's gotten stale. But I told you my my only thesis on the Ukraine Russia thing is that I think the most sensible move for Putin is to do nothing big no not use any nukes until after Trump is out of office. That's like that would be the only thing I would put money on is that there won't be any use of any extreme weapons until after Trump's out of office. Well we'll see but also it doesn't look like anyone is really trying to end that thing like Russia isn't Ukraine definitely isn't America isn't trying to end it. Europe wants it stoked more they want more war I'd like there's literally nobody trying to end that war right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:13

Did you see the Seattle Times columnists resigning over the WNBA stuff? No so they tried

WNBA Gender Flashpoint

SPEAKER_01 1:24:20

to run an article titled Save Women's Sports and the Seattle Times wouldn't publish it. Oh my God that's insane so the the WNBA is your beat Gene so what do we need to know what are the updates?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:33

Well I mean that then the the WNBA apologized to the woman and her daughter that they told can't wear a shirt supporting women's sports it was an XXXY shirt. So they've now rolled back on their position to try and kick those people out which is good. I don't know I mean it's it looks like that with the latest announcements of all the men that are going to be joining the WNBA it's gonna be fun to watch they've got a reckoning coming they're gonna they've got a few months to basically decide what they're gonna do here. And because their default is they're gonna have to let them in I think they're gonna have to let them in that her you know what's her name Britney Griner's gonna get kicked out yep so I think the NBA needs to put an end to subsidizing the WNBA that's the the other thing that needs to happen. And they could probably do that on grounds of sexual discrimination how so like we're not going to support an organization that sexually discriminates if they don't allow these men in. Or if they do. I mean it it ultimately it doesn't even matter because if you charge them with sexual discrimination you could do it from either angle you could you could say they're discriminating against women if they let men in or you could say they're discriminating against non-traditional women if they don't let men in. But either way they need to stop paying for like non-lactating men or non non-lactating women with penises.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:19

I don't know what what is the official title these days I don't remember for like big black dudes what what does Britney Griner call herself dude have you seen that video I think I posted that about a week ago of Britney Griner playing like water polo in a swimming pool with no top on yeah it's a dude totally fucked it's a dude it's it's beyond controversy as far as I'm concerned again there's a reason they put her in media some weird DNA stuff going on there or something but you know yeah maybe it was a dude born without a penis okay maybe I don't know that happens right well and or if it's ambiguous you know sometimes the doctor makes a call at birth and they do whatever they do.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:11

Yeah that's a shitty doctor who didn't realize it's gonna be a a six foot five dude well but the fact that there's testosterone throbbing in that body is beyond question.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:23

Deep bassy voice no chest at all I mean it's just like come on dude that she's got bigger hands than most men definitely bigger than you I mean I have normal looking hands so don't have anything weird about my hands but my hands they're just fine size large gloves man all in that key so I don't know man it's it like something's gonna happen because if they do nothing they will have a bunch of guys playing for them and we're gonna have the equivalent of that movie that Dailywire made Ladyballers exactly exactly so I and I know we talked about it a little bit but I don't think we've talked about the number of jobs that the Terrafab is bringing to this area. No we haven't I mean you and I have but we haven't done the podcast. So the Terrafab has announced that they're

Terrafab Jobs And Musk Signals

SPEAKER_01 1:28:28

gonna have at least three thousand permanent positions which means there's a shit ton of automation. Yeah but Grimes County is a very poor county with no real industry. Its main industry is agriculture so this is going to be huge for them.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:46

Yeah I I think it's a good location. It's in the middle of Texas.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:50

It's got well, and it's right on the high-speed railroad corridor.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:53

If that ever happens, if that ever happens, it's it's got multiple colleges that can feed it like engineers. It's a it, I mean, and and obviously Musk likes Texas. He starts all his new companies here. But if you look at like I looked at all the jobs that Tesla has up, I still say about 70% of them are in California.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:16

Well, Elon needs to get on that. Speaking of, the I didn't send it earlier because I didn't see it earlier. But there's look at what Elon replied to here. Okay. Expected revenue growth in the next five years. SpaceX 2,000%. Nvidia, right around 300, Samsung 244, Alphabet 140, Microsoft 136, Meta 133, Tesla 119, so on and so on. And Elon replied to this guy saying, I know this sounds crazy right now, but I think SpaceX and Tesla will exceed these test times. Which, if you're an investor, that could be taken as fiduciary responsibility right there.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:06

Elon is always making statements like that. Yeah, he's very blameless. But also he's he has managed to do an incredible return on investment for Tesla people. But but who's gonna sue a trillionaire? You know, plenty of people. The more money you have, the more lawsuits you're gonna have. Remember, he had a lawsuit from a class action from Tesla stock owners.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:32

So what else? I'm trying to think if there's anything that we didn't cover or didn't cover much. I don't really have any new gun-related stuff other than what we talked about, just the F you know, ATF changes.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:50

I've gotta do some research on some guns. What are you thinking now? Well, my uncle is is selling some of his guns, and I gotta see how much they're worth. But some of them are kind of neat and might want to get them.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:07

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:09

And there is a recipe coming. I just haven't written it up yet.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:13

Okay. Yeah, I I might throw a recipe in there. I was telling one to Darren the other day for ground beef. Which is it's it's sort of like a hamburger helper type thing, but I like to make it with a little more of a Middle Eastern kind of flavor. So it's basically pan-fried loose ground beef. So you just kind of take the ground beef and you, you know, brown it. Spread it through your fingers before you put it on the pan so that it's fairly loose. And then you start browning it along with sliced mushrooms and onions and a like a Korean barbecue sauce. Or you could do, I mean, if you have something authentic from that's like uranian, you could do that for a sauce, but I like the Korean sauces for barbecue a lot, because I'm I'm just I eat American barbecue sauces so often that I'm kind of tired of them. But you you brown that stuff together, and then that is the protein portion, and the other por the carb side would be like an egg-fried rice. Okay. And it it's it's a meal that you can cook a large amount of this all at once, like three, four pounds, and then just reheat it. And it's one of those things that because of the rice and the sauces, ends up actually tasting better a couple days after you cook it when you warm it up than immediately. So it's good for for multiple multi-day leftover meals. Cool. So nothing too complex and not any specific measurements, but just it's a good way to use ground beef for something other than making hamburgers.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:11

You know what I always used to like? My parents would take an onion and sometimes some other stuff and make the ground beef and then put make a gravy with it, either brown or white, and mix it all together, and then you put it on a piece of toast. Okay. Shit on a shingle.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:37

Oh my god. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:39

Yeah. And then my dad always used to make a bunch of goulashes and stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:45

Well, anyway. I mean, it's sort of it's somewhat related to a Slappy Joe Joe recipe as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:51

Yeah, it's just an open face and no tomato. Derek Chauvin might get out. Really? Yeah, he's filed some peel. Okay. Basically, the way they charged him

Chauvin Appeal And Flock Misuse

SPEAKER_01 1:34:06

was not legal. Doesn't that surprise me as well?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:11

So, you know, he would still have to deal with federal charges, but if you can get the state charges gone, then Trump could pardon him, for instance, and he not go to state prison where he's not going to pardon him, though. I do. Eric Chauvin did nothing wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:29

Yeah, I I agree with that. Well, he did one thing wrong. He went to police academy and became a cop. So I will always hold that against him no matter what. But as far as being guilty of murder, he's clearly not guilty of murder. Agreed. So, yeah. Yeah, he's just another in the line of white cops that happen to be around black dudes when the camera was rolling.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:58

Anyway, I thought that was interesting. On the flock stuff, we did have an officer arrested and placed on leave in a Lufkin. Okay. So you're seeing more and more stories of Texas cops misusing these things. Oh, yeah. And you know, it's one of those things. When when the power exists, it will be misused.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:19

Of course. Yeah, it's human nature. And people are always doing shit like that. It's it's well, you know, you're in security. You know how this shit works. This is gonna be the most common abuses of security are done by people that have legitimate access to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:35

Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:38

So this is why we have audit data. But I just I I think, you know, from a completely utilitarian standpoint, like flock cameras are great. Because if there's literally a camera on every single block, then the crimes done by people who want to not be filmed doing the crime will be reduced. That's just objectively true. But the price that you pay for that as a society on the philosophical level is not worth paying. Yeah, it's it's just slowly turning all our neighborhoods into the uh Panopticon.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:19

Well, and that's what we don't want is a Panopticon because what it drives is a lower trust society.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:26

But also there's less crime in a panopticon.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:29

Sure, and there was less crime in Soviet Russia because you never knew who was gonna snitch on you.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:34

That's yeah, exactly. That's not a good thing. No, but again, my point is it depends if you're looking from the inside out or from the outside in.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:45

From the inside out, it's a bad thing. From the outside in, it solves a problem. And and this is where people need to, in general, look more from inside out. And this is why, like, I think people know they're well aware of both of our attitudes towards the random police person in general. Like, you're guilty in my eyes just for having gone to police academy. Like, you already made a bad decision in your life. But a lot of people, even the ones that regularly get speeding tickets and things, even to get, you know, DWIs, they don't see this the the police as a negative factor in their communities. And I don't know what needs to happen to change that because more people need to have regular interactions with police. I guess, but I I mean for every every interaction that you see where the police are actually helping a person, there's like 25 of them where the police are abusing their powers. It's a bad ratio. This is why most police departments they don't actually take complaints seriously because they consider that to be justified behavior. If you if you don't and like it while it is completely legal for police to lie to you in every interaction, like that's been a regular accepted police tactic and the courts are perfectly fine. But it's a crime for you to lie to the police. Yeah, it's a crime for you to lie to the police, but the way that the police interact with you, meaning they can lie all they want, they can tell you this is a lawful order, I'm telling you to get out of your vehicle. And when you don't get out of the vehicle, because it's not actually a lawful order, it is a lie being told to you, to your face, by a cop, they then will resort to violence and usually the use of a taser, followed by a charge which will not stand usually in the long run, but is sufficient enough to make you spend the night in jail. Like that behavior is exactly why I've been advocating for robotic cops for

Robotic Cops And Cop Culture

SPEAKER_04 1:39:15

years now.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:16

We need to get the police to be a job that only programmed more efficiently to yeah, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that, yeah, no. I I way more would trust a robot with a set of rules than the cop with the brain of a guy who wants to go to police academy.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:38

The the problem is then you end up with like what I'm dealing with with the with my company credit card and the dumb shits in India. That it's not their fault. But they're set with a set of criteria that they cannot flinch from, even with any common sense. And you're gonna have that same thing with your robot cop, and you know, a lot of cops today are like that, but not all of them. So I don't know that that's a good trade-off, dude. It is a good trade-off because you're shifting you say this, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:08

I do, I think it is a good trade-off because you're my first goal is to move the decision making on actions to a higher IQ person. That is my first goal.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:25

So in so make a mandatory minimum IQ test for police.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:32

Well, you can't exclude the Italians out of the police force, man. Not where I thought you'd go, but no, I mean, obviously there wouldn't be any black cops, but beyond that, the Italians are mixed, right? So they're they're out. Uh huh. The Irish, not far behind them. So either way, I think I would be much happier having people that make their livelihood from white-collar jobs and don't have a general disdain for the average guy driving in a car 10 miles above the speed limit. I'd much rather have those guys writing the software that the robots use than to have the people that are currently through the choices they make in their lives, end up becoming cops.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:22

Speaking of cops, apparently, Donut Operator just announced that they're having a kid.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:27

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:28

Put it out, I am with child.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:32

Yeah. I mean congrats to him and all that jazz, obviously. I uh it's planned.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:42

I don't know. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:44

You know anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:49

But I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:50

It's a I was gonna make a comment, but I'm gonna hold off.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:57

Yeah, donut I I think Donut's funny, but he's still a cop. Former cop, but yes. He still made the decision to go to cop school. He didn't last long, which is a positive for him as a cop. But his mentality is still that of a criminal, member of the cop gang. And you can see that if you watch videos of him reviewing police interactions, there are quite a few times which where he is absolutely beyond out on the wrong side of the argument, trying to justify what the cop did. Well, because that guy, you know, he wouldn't listen to him for like three times. So the cop had to, you know, break his arm. Fuck him. Yeah. That's the thing, is like on that show, there's only two people that I like. Brandon. Brandon, obviously, who I was watching way before that show started. Yeah. And fat electrician. Yeah. Yeah. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:01

The gay guy, nope. I like habitual line crosser when he's on there.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:07

Has it been on lately?

SPEAKER_01 1:43:10

Not in a long time now.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:12

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:12

But I you don't find habitual line crosser funny. No, not really. Like, I love his grandpa buff. You know. I love how racist he is and everything else. Like, it's just very fitting for that character.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:28

Yeah, yeah. I I think, you know, racism is funny because it's true. But well, that's the thing. Like, racism wouldn't be funny if these were just complete inventions about stereotypes. Like, if you had a stereotype about, you know, how tall Italians were. Like, there's no humor there. It's not funny, it's just dumb. Like, no, not really. Like, even reading the old Greek writings from over 2,000 years ago, they made fun of the short Italians. The Greeks were making fun of the Italians.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:09

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:11

Come on, that's saying something.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:13

You you gotta have an element of truth for something to be funny. And if it has an element of truth, then you can't block that language. Like, that's just retarded. Freedom of speech is is all about speech that somebody doesn't like. Agreed. So, and better that somebody doesn't like something because it's got an element of truth than because of some arbitrary decision. Like you like, you don't like homosexual presenting men with weak shoulders.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:52

Oh god, that was so funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:54

Oh my god, that made I I literally almost fell out of my chair, belly laughing.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:00

You gotta, you gotta give them props for having a sense of humor, though, right? No, no, no. It was an admission. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 1:45:06

It was a full of them, blatant admission.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:08

No, no, no, no. It's not an admission.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:12

Now tell everybody what it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:13

So there's a podcast that I listen to or watch. I guess I mostly watch them. I don't just completely, totally

The “Gay Podcast” Argument

SPEAKER_04 1:45:20

homosexual podcast. It's not at all homosexual.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:24

Dude, the hosts admitted it.

unknown 1:45:26

Ah.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:27

Yes. As a You know how many people are gonna have stopped listening because we were rambling and we should have done this before. Yeah, I know, I know. But it is what you know, for those listeners who listened all the way through, this is a special little treat. Yeah, what is that called Genie?

SPEAKER_04 1:45:42

Uh what is that show called? I'm trying to look it up. Pegger and Peggy? No, that's not it. It's it's Baste Camp. Baste Camp with Simone and Malcolm Collins.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:57

Dude, their names are even gay.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:59

Simone. That's gay. Yes. Okay. Yes, especially when you look at it. Malcolm is kind of a gay name. You have to admit that. But anyway, so that this this is a podcast done by a couple of conservatives that have been in conservative politics, well known by many.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:17

And the log cabin republicans.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:19

And very, very much on the forefront of the natalist movement. They have like eight kids. Drifters. They're all about like people need to have more kids. They're Elon's one of their buddies. Elon's old business partner is one of their buddies. What's his name? You know what I'm talking about. The gay guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:46

Jesus, Peter.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:47

Peter Thiel.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:48

Peter Thiel. Oh, Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:51

So the like the chick used to work for Peter Thiel.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:54

Oh my god. I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:57

I don't know what's going on with Ben. I think we might have had some uh bad connection or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:03

No, I had to mute because I was just like you're not making your case just.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:19

What was the group that had the letter A, the Scarlet A? They were the like the Mayflower people, where they they were the The Pilgrims. Right. But the pilgrims were what religiously? They were the not not they're Protestants. No, no, no, there's no name for it. They were like they were the super religious ones, what are they called? The like where every minor little thing was a sin. Oh what's the name for that?

SPEAKER_01 1:47:49

I know the term you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:51

I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:52

You're not thinking of Protestants.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:53

No, not Protestant. No, no, no. But like they were like the ones the ones that did the witch trials. What were those people called? They were the you know who I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:07

Yeah, the pilgrims were Christian, same uh Puritan. Puritans are that's the word. Right, right. Or the Puritans.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:12

These pronatalist types refer to themselves as techno-puritans. Right. So they're they're Christians, they're conservative politically, their main focus is on having as many kids as possible. And somehow out of that, Ben gets gay. But okay. The thing that I have always said is like, look, the guy is put a sh picture of them in the show. No, the guy is definitely gay presenting for two main reasons. One is both he and his wife have designer glasses, like not sunglasses, but normal glasses, uh, that are artsy. So they're like oversized frames. They they look like the kind of thing that New York liberals would wear. And that's, I think, mostly who buys that stuff is basically like rich people who are liberals that like artsy fartsy stuff. So they have that. And then Malcolm, the guy, he looks like he's never done a day's sport in his life, so he's got super narrow shoulders. He's small and effeminate. Yeah, effeminate sounding. He could transition like easily. No, no, no, he couldn't. So that came up in today's episode where somebody was suggesting that you know he has no testosterone in him. And he showed the test results showing that he was in the top two percent of all men as far as testosterone level. Fake news. I don't know how that's fake news. It was just his test results from doing testosterone replacement therapy. So he's got plenty of testosterone that he pumps into himself. But the point is, so he's gay looking, right? So Ben.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:04

Ben's been I don't think that's all that's getting pumped into him, G.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:08

Ben's been on this whole shtick about how he's obviously gay. So I I actually watched the podcast, so I posted a comment. I was like, then they had a guest this episode, they had a third person, an Asian dude, who also was wearing like white framed plastic, oversized, artsy, typically very liberal type glasses. And so I wrote in the comments I said, you know, I've been trying to convince people that you guys are not a gay podcast, mostly due to the glasses you wear. But now, with this episode, I'm in a losing battle. Right. And then the group the dude replies back to me. He says he replies back, we are the guy the gayest podcast of all podcasts. So I sent that to Ben then so he could have a a good laugh about it.

unknown 1:51:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:01

But that's a joke. Like obviously he's saying that because it's not true, you know. Please also found out on today's episode of that podcast that apparently they're in an open relationship, which is you know. See?

SPEAKER_01 1:51:14

So he's not giving the dad to the kids.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:16

He can he can sleep with uh any guy he wants without his wife really. I mean, that's what you would think. Obviously, I don't think he's doing that. I don't think he's gay at all, but clearly for some people they would think that.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:30

But but he, you know, like he actually shared even the way they phrased their reply to you, we are the gayest of podcasts. That's you know that's pretty gay. Exactly. Not, yeah, we're the gayest, or you know, we're we're the gayest of all, or you know, like it's it's pretentious.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:47

They're not only are they gay, they're pretentious.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:49

Well, though that but then that's my point is I think you're somehow confusing gay with pretentious. Like those are two separate traits. One can be one without being the other. And you're like NPR viewer type, big glasses. But you can be gay without being pretentious. I don't know if that's possible, but you could definitely be pretentious without being gay. I've never met a gay person who wasn't pretentious. Oh, I have.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:17

Oh, lumberjet gays. Oh anyway. I'm sorry, man, but yeah. That was just funny.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:27

Yeah, so that's why we save it for the last, so no one actually hears it because everyone's already tuned out. That's that's how we roll. By the way, I started watching a or I well, I started and finished watching a new show, which I don't know if you've

What We’re Watching Next

SPEAKER_04 1:52:41

seen. You may want to peruse. Uh it's called Tires.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:49

No. You should watch it. What's it about?

SPEAKER_04 1:52:53

It's about a tire store. Why would I watch a show about a tire store? Because it's fucking funny. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:01

Have you watched the John Maleki stuff? Yeah, I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:05

So the tires stars Shane Gillis. You know who he is, right? You're friends.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:14

And and in the first episode, he like he's working at a tire shop as a mechanic. And his buddy, his cousin's dad owns the shop. And he's a toy.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:32

His buddy's cousin's dad?

SPEAKER_04 1:53:34

Yeah. And he like brings a gun to work, so he's talk he's you know, showing off the gun to his buddies and talking about it. And uh he basically he plays a blue-collar conservative guy in his late 30s or early 40s potentially. Who you know, like one of the episodes, his girlfriend in his phone is listed as Linda the Liberal.

unknown 1:54:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:03

You know, stuff like that. So it's it's a funny show. It's got gratuitous races, it's got blue-collar humor, it's got I don't know, I mean, I don't think it's particularly funny. They're making Jews of their uh in there, but making fun of Jews. But there there's a there's a Well, you you just sold me on it. Is that is that all it takes? Okay. But it's and in the third season, they've got three seasons out right now. Uh in the third season, they uh have a new character who is this like hippy-dippy chick who's into you know spiritual awakening shit and yoga and everything else. So it's it's pretty funny. So you should check it out, but I just finished season three today, and I'm gonna be starting re-watching a TV show that I haven't seen for years, which I guess just finished its last season, which is the Blacklist. Have you seen that? No, you have never seen Blacklist. No, okay, alright. I don't watch a lot of TV, dude. Apparently, you don't watch TV, yeah. But this one you can do.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:14

I I watched like YouTube.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:15

Yeah, I watched, and that's how I ended up watching Tires, is because I kept watching like clips of Shane Gillis, and I'm like, is this Saturday nive? What is this? And then I found out it was the show Tires, so then I just watched the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:29

All right. Well, I sent you the YouTube channel you ought to check out for this woodworking stuff. It's been I've binged a lot of this content, but it's

Woodworking Plans And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_01 1:55:37

what's it about? John Malecki. Uh they do woodworking. Oh, the woodworking.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:41

You thought you sent me this. You already sent me this, and I already told you I did. Yeah, I watched like an episode of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:47

It was alright. Yeah, and you ought to watch some of the unscrewed stuff because you'd like it. It's a bunch of buddies doing stupid shit together.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:54

Oh, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:55

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like jackass, but not jackass, right? You know, but it's got that kind of vibe of we're fucking with each other and doing stupid shit, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:04

Yeah.

unknown 1:56:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:05

So yeah. I see he's got one here of thousand dollar cutting board, ten thousand dollar cutting board that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:12

Yeah. They make some cool shit on there, and like I said, it's got me wanting to make some stuff. I've got my uh looking well. I I mean, I've done woodworking my life before. Like as a as a teen. 1.6 million subs. Yeah, yeah. As a teen, Gene, uh, did I ever tell you about the whittling I would do? No. Like I would take a piece of wood and I would whittle like chains, wooden chains out of it. Stuff like that. You know, I did a lot of that, which that is surprisingly hard to do, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:49

Whittle like making wood chains? Yeah. Okay, and what was the point of that?

SPEAKER_01 1:56:56

To make a piece of art.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:58

Oh, oh, Art Secretary. Okay, kind of gay, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:02

Yes, whittling wood to create something neat is the next thing you know, you're gonna tell me you did poetry too.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:11

Don't know anything gayer than that.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:14

Yeah. Okay. Come on. Come on. I'm not ready to just release this yet, you bastard. But it's I said nothing. I said nothing. It's not like a poem that is. It's a religious thing. Good God. Uh-huh. Ah, bastard.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:35

Anyway. But anyway, I've got my dad, you know, he's got a sawmill, so I've got him looking for a cool tree to cut me a slab so I can make a couple tables. Because I've got my coffee table in my office, it's just a cheap Ashley furniture thing that I've had for a long time that's a piece of crap. And I've got an end table that's the same. Gotcha. So I'm gonna build a live edge table of my own. And it's gonna be hard as shit because I don't have a planer to flatten it. But okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:15

So that show makes about $17,000 a month.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:20

Oh, he makes more than that. TV channel. Yeah, he makes more than that because like they they do sponsored spots and all that.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:28

No, no, I mean from YouTube.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, he sells a lot of the products that they build.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:35

So yeah, his average video makes $450.

unknown 1:58:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:41

From the viewership that's getting it. That seems low. It's hard work, man. He's got a new video out every single day. I'm watching his breakdown here.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:51

I mean, average views are anywhere from 500 to 2.5.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:56

Yeah, I'm getting the actual numbers. 255,000 for most of his videos in the last two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:02

How do you are you getting that?

SPEAKER_04 1:59:03

I've got include shorts. I've got stuff, access to stuff. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:09

I mean, it's not bad. It's not bad at all. Anyway, I just like what they're doing. Yeah. He's a former NFL player. Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:17

So, well, I like I like channels. I I haven't watched a whole lot of woodworking other than the guy that makes really expensive tables.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:25

This guy makes really expensive tables.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:27

Yeah. Well, there's one channel that I've been watching for years. What that's all the guy does. Like, he buys these huge pieces of wood for like $500. That's it. And then sells a table for $20,000.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:41

That's what this guy does.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:42

Yeah. So it's like that, but a different guy, obviously. But it's you know, I think it's mildly interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:50

Well, like the the episodes you ought to watch is they did they've been doing TikTok challenges where they see stuff on TikTok and they try to recreate it. And he did the the stump hot tub.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:05

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen that. Multiple people doing that one.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:09

Yeah. It looks cool. I will agree. That that definitely looks cool. You know, the channel that I like the most is the guy that does the reviews where he buys like 10 or 15 of the same type of product. And then just does a fairly scientific direct comparison between them. You know the guy I'm talking about. I've sent you some of his videos. I can't remember his name though. It's like something farm, like experiment farm or something, or maybe garage or something. Dave's garage. No, but something like that. But he like that's all he does is he like just buys like five drills, or not five, but like 15 drills, and then does direct comparison between them, testing the the failure torque or the blah de blah or whatever. And uh he'll do anything from like he did water purifiers. I bought the purifier that's the best in his ratings. He does like lithium battery dude ads. I bought the one that he liked the most in in his ratings. He does he does all kinds of things. So well worth watching, but I can't remember the channel. It just maybe one video every two weeks comes up on there. So low, low process. Why are we still on? We should like wrap this episode up or something. Probably. Yeah. We've gone long. We apologize for that.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:40

Alright, Gene.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:41

Alright, see you next week, Ben. Now remember