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182 When Machines Can Copy Software From A Screenshot
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A bot that hunts RFPs for you sounds like a cheat code until you have to decide what you trust, what you verify, and what you never delegate. We walk through a real hybrid AI setup where Grok handles internet-facing scraping and link gathering, then a local LLM takes over for summarizing, classifying, and formatting clean output you can actually use for sales pipeline work. It’s the kind of automation that turns “I should check that site someday” into a Monday-morning CSV you can act on.
From there, we get into the uncomfortable but necessary part: AI security and access control. We talk about MCP bridging, why we keep hard separation from credentials, and how easy it is to accidentally weaken your own guardrails when an agent is listening for commands. We also compare local LLM performance on a Mac Studio versus an older Nvidia card, and why raw speed changes whether AI is a fun experiment or a practical daily tool.
Then we zoom out to what’s changing fast: AI-assisted coding that can recreate software behavior from UI images, the tedious reality of debugging AI-generated apps, and what “copying” even means when source code isn’t available. We round it out with policy and power, including license plate camera surveillance and major shifts in ATF posture around forms, suppressor transfers, and the possibility of selling certain post-1986 government-purchased full-auto firearms to the public.
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Stormy Small Talk
SPEAKER_02I'm doing alright, Gene. It's a rainy, dreary day.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. It's it's definitely been rainy and lightningy here. Hearing a lot of thunder.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we've had a lot of thunder and lightning and a little bit of rain. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's cooled off. That's a good thing. It's uh 73 here.
SPEAKER_02I don't even know what we're at here.
SPEAKER_00It's uh humid, but cooled off.
SPEAKER_02Let's see. So we're at 73. Yeah, yeah, same thing.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02So
An AI Bot That Finds RFPs
SPEAKER_02I have my first truly recurring task for my grok bot. Yeah, oh nice. And it's using a combination of my local AI and a combination of grok to be able to scrape the internet.
SPEAKER_00Okay, but are you looking for Bible passages?
SPEAKER_02No. No. I have it, in fact, here, I'll I'll send you in our show notes the output of this, but I have it scraping for specific types of RFPs that are related to my business.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02And getting correlating the report.
SPEAKER_00And it so you're not counting that daily cat girl report that you were doing before. You're not counting that as your first one. What which one? The the daily goth girl report.
SPEAKER_02I do not do a daily goth girl report.
SPEAKER_00That's funny how you post a picture every day. Okay.
SPEAKER_02That is human effort, sir. Thank you very much. No, but take a look. So it it output this nice little CSV file that uh you literally sent me a CSV file. Okay. Yeah. What? That's the output. What what's wrong with CSV? You don't like the format? No, I love the format.
SPEAKER_00In fact, I wrote I wrote a game mod that I would put the CSV in for one of my games.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but anyway, it goes around, pulls the opportunity, the issuing entity, the title, the date it's due, the date it was posted, you know, scope notes, everything. It's fantastic. Cool. So that's now scheduled to run every Monday. And I'm wondering what's part of that. It's doing some of the formatting. So the only Grok is only pulling raw information. It's doing the formatting and the initial list of places to run. What do you mean by that? Like the info from hey, here's a website that has this RFP. It pulls it down and feeds it to my local model that then runs the analysis and so on. I could do it all in grok, but this is cheaper, right? Because I've got the hardware to run. So I'm only using grok for the internet-facing tasks, is basically what it is. I gotcha. Like all of this could be just done in grok, but I have a local car. It's also that experiment of getting the two to work together, right?
SPEAKER_00Right, right. I have not done that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so grok just scrapes the internet and hands the local model, which is a Quinn model, the information, and then it's processing, summarizing, formatting, and dumping into the spreadsheet.
SPEAKER_00So what so the grok just gives it a link?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, basically.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so you just have grok going out there and looking, and when it finds something, it sends you the link. Correct. I think it'd be pretty trivial for grok to just do the whole thing, but fair enough. You're doing it.
SPEAKER_02It was not the experiment, damn it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Now I get it. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I'm very sure Grok could do the entire damn thing. But you know, it even classifies it whether or not it's an open RFP or limited and all that. Like it's I've got it shredding out quite a bit of really good information here.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's fascinating. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So sales resource.
SPEAKER_00Woo-hoo! Yeah, man. I think for better or worse, depending on which side you're on, AI is a tremendous sales resource. Yeah. Maybe it'll finally you know I should do a project like that. I should have AI actually go through my LinkedIn and figure out if anybody I know is worth contacting.
SPEAKER_02Is it does anyone I know on LinkedIn worth money?
SPEAKER_00Well, they're all worth money. You see, I've I've almost exclusively gotten people to be my LinkedIn contacts if they're CEOs.
SPEAKER_02By the way, if anyone's interested, the Israeli Electric Corporation is looking for let's see what was it, provisions of OT information for cybersecurity policy.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I should be so okay. I'm sure somebody might be. Anyway.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's cool. So people on LinkedIn, CEOs.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Where are you going with that?
SPEAKER_00Cool. That's a recent posting, too. Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_02See, you're looking at the information now going, huh?
SPEAKER_00I'm looking at LinkedIn. I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Well, anyway, that's my fun and exciting little AI story. Well,
Linking Grok To A Local LLM
SPEAKER_02I've been doing a lot of Grockbot and my local LLM. It's producing some really cool stuff.
SPEAKER_00What is your method of API for them?
SPEAKER_02I'm just using the bridge. Using the what? Uh what's it called? MCP. I'm just using an MCP bridge.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Because that's that was kind of what I wanted to figure out before heading down that path.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and the Grok bot has access to my local AI, its API, so it has full access to my local LL.
SPEAKER_00Oh, the Grok does?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02I from my computer, to be clear. That's straight topic.
SPEAKER_00I was kind of wondering.
SPEAKER_02Isn't that your server? Grokbot is running on my Windows PC that I'm sitting here talking to you on. You're right. It is in the same network segment as my server and everything, and it can connect to it there from my PC. Yeah,
Guardrails For AI And Credentials
SPEAKER_02I've not done that. Grok has none of my passwords and will not have any of my passwords. Like I will never log it into like my true NAS box to do troubleshooting. I can ask it troubleshooting steps and do things, but I'm never giving it credentials to shit.
SPEAKER_00I have a I have concrete separations with mine. The closest it can get is it's gonna ask me for a screenshot.
SPEAKER_02Right. That's about where I'm at.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I I was just blown away when I've had friends of mine that are like, you know, executives and companies like, oh, this thing's great. It's reading my email, it's setting up meetings for me, it's running my computer, it's managing my bank account. You're fucking nuts. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You and
Mac Studio Vs Nvidia Reality Check
SPEAKER_02I had a little bit of a conversation earlier this week about AI experience on the Mac versus a standalone card.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now that I've got a Mac Studio thingy, it is interesting. Now I didn't get anything nearly as fancy as what Darren's got. He's got 120 gigs of RAM, which is, you know, that'd be very cool. No, mine's just 32. But then again, so is my NVIDIA card. That's also 32. And the thing that I realized after putting around with AI on the Mac and installing Min Macs in there, which is what I've always kind of kind of zeroed in in as the sweet spot to run if you have 32 gigs. Regardless of whether it's a Mac or a card. And holy shit is the Mac slow.
SPEAKER_02Well, and like you and I were talking about, there's a couple different architectural reasons for that.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. For sure.
SPEAKER_02And your card is older than the Mac, correct?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. My card is like seven years old. The Mac is four years old? Maybe three and a half. I don't know, something like that. Maybe three. No, I think it's over three. It's Mac M2 Ultra Studio.
SPEAKER_02Okay. But the point is, you're running on more modern Mac hardware and older NVIDIA hardware. And NVIDIA hardware is significantly faster. Oh, it's that NVIDIA hardware. Are you doing it in Windows or Linux? Yeah. Are you doing it in Windows or Linux?
SPEAKER_00Well, the Mac I'm doing in Mac. I have not put on Linux, so I'm using still Windows with the card.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you're gonna see another 20% performance boost, my friend.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00So it's it is definitely, I would say, too slow for practical use. I think it's fine if you're experimenting and you're running a bunch of tests to see, you know, which LLM is gonna be a little faster for you or whatever. But from a practical standpoint, like, you know, I was for the last few days I've been working on an app. It was a Mac app that Darren built, and then I got the source code and converted it to the PC, then tweaked some stuff in it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know if I want to trust you and run that on my system. Oh, whatever. You should run it. Considering I almost deleted your AI.
SPEAKER_00Hey, you weren't even close to deleting my AI.
SPEAKER_02All I had to say was star.star at the end of the drop table's comment to it.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It it wasn't even close. It wasn't paying it. No, the mistake that I made was mine, not yours. I
The Signal Bot Self Own
SPEAKER_00had my AI set up to talk through signal. But I was smart enough right off the get-go to not trust certain people on there to talk to it. So I I pre-set it up so it would only listen to me. Oh. Yeah. But you made a mistake. And then immediately when when uh Ben saw it, he starts trying to be a you know a troublemaker, trying to send it just like he does with my Alexa, trying to tell it to find porn and things. And it did too. It didn't know. So he sends starts sending this, you know, drop table commands and things that SQL injection. And I was like, haha. So I I click reply back to him, and like, yeah, ain't gonna work, motherfucker. This is this thing is hardened. And I it didn't occur to me that my reposting and replying to him and reposting his command would actually get an answer from damn AI who's set up to only listen to me. Now I'm the one that's self-owning here. Now, luckily, Ben didn't actually put in a properly. He wasn't actually trying to take down your AI, dude. Uh-huh. So nothing happened. But then, of course, I had to re harden it after that. But it but yeah, it was like I would I knew enough to make sure that it doesn't just listen to random friends, alleged friends.
SPEAKER_02Uh with with friends like these, who needs enemies, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But that's good. No, I I mean I kind of consider that you were helping to test the uh security of the device. So that's all for it.
SPEAKER_02You know, I I'm reminded of the Warren G. Harding quote, it's not my enemies. My enemies I can handle. It's my friends, my goddamn friends that keep me up at night. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00So, but yeah, it's fun doing these little experiments, creating these little connectors and different apps and stuff. And it it it's like it reminds me of when I used to enjoy doing software development a long, long, long time ago. Because you have these moments of epiphany, and that is very much the same process with AI. The part that AI does, the part it takes care of, is just looking up all the samples, examples of code of somebody else trying to do what you're trying to do. So I don't have to do that, which is something I would have done previously myself. It it takes care of doing all of that, but it doesn't know what it's doing from a practical sense. So I actually did a an unrecorded episode of my podcast with Darren yesterday for about two hours. Why is it unrecorded? Because it was a phone call. But that's what I mean by unrecorded. It's like every time we talk, it's basically the same thing that we do on the podcast. This one just happened to be off the podcast. But we were doing the same thing, talking about AI and and and stuff that I'm doing, that he's doing, that he wants to do. And
Managing AI Like Managing People
SPEAKER_00and I kind of explained to him this concept that I first mentioned to you on our episode, which was that the skill set for working with AI, it occurred to me, was identical to the skill set that is necessary to be a good manager. And since that quick little mention on the podcast, I've actually started writing a book and I've got it totally outlined and a couple of chapters done already.
SPEAKER_01Well, good for you.
SPEAKER_00So it's I think I'm I don't think I'm the only one thinking like this, but it's definitely not a popular topic yet, but I think you will be. So hopefully I can have one of the first books on this particular topic. Because you just kind of go down the line. Like, what do you actually need to be good at with AIs? Well, you need to understand the goals of the project, you need to understand the scope, you need to speak enough of the technical language to convey what you need to the developer. You need to make sure that it doesn't wander off on some weird tasks that you didn't really care all that much about that it decided it was going to do. You need to be able to have regular updates from it to make sure that it's still going down the same path that you agreed to. I mean, like all these same things that I would do with, because I I've I've run three different software companies over the years, the exact same things that I would do with humans. I'm just doing them with the AI at much faster order, right? So it's something that maybe a weekly event with AI happens once an hour. And ultimately the thing that AI currently, I'm not saying it's gonna stay this way. So we'll you know, developers will still lose their jobs, but currently the thing that AI is not good at is it's not very good at obvious things. Like you need to be explicit with it because it it's not going to make the right assumptions.
SPEAKER_02Well, and one thing that I've found is you cannot ask it questions about something that you don't already know enough about.
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah, I mean you can, but you just don't know if you're gonna get the right answer. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but like giving a concrete example so this would make sense for people. So one of the things that the AI did in Darren's version of this app, and the the app we're talking about, is it's basically a glorified task manager. It it shows pretty graphs and charts for all kinds of different stats about your computer while it's running. And one of the things that the app did was it, in my take, it screwed up a lot of the labels on these bar graphs. Like it put everything into bits.
SPEAKER_02You even have a licensing agreement in here.
SPEAKER_00Well, I wrote that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know that I I can't run this gene.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna have to run it in a sandbox. No, you can agree. Look, it's it's very concise. It's about 18 pages that just specify. Just make sure you read the last page, you'll get a you'll get a laugh out of it. Expect i i especially the remote access to my system. No, no, no. Just go all the way to the bottom if you're looking at it. The on the last page, there's something funny you'll you'll enjoy. How far up from the bottom?
SPEAKER_02The interpretation. The headings in this agreement are for reverence, so they do not affect the interpretation.
SPEAKER_00Standard, standard, standard legal language. It's a very good agreement. I mean, this is what every piece of software has, frankly. I don't know if you've bothered reading it.
SPEAKER_02I only accept license agreements inebriated. When you're drunk? So that they are not legally binding.
SPEAKER_00Right. As long as you're drunk, they're not legally binding.
SPEAKER_02I love that little uh workaround. Yeah, that or have my kid click the mouse button, you know.
SPEAKER_00Uh there you go. Drop your cat so it lands with this paw and the mouse button. Yep. I never I never clicked that. That wasn't me. Did you get to the last section, or should I just say what it is?
SPEAKER_02You should say, because I'm looking and I'm not finding anything that's are you at the very bottom? Yes, I'm scrolled all the way to the bottom.
SPEAKER_00Okay, and then look for the section that begins with if you're in the following countries. It's not at the very bottom. Uh maybe a paragraph up.
SPEAKER_02All notice requests claims, warranties, waivers, it's not there.
SPEAKER_00Maybe two paragraphs up.
SPEAKER_02All right, miscellaneous. All matters, nope. You don't say what it was, because I'm I'm I'm midway back up through the agreement now.
SPEAKER_00No, it's at the very end. It's it's like the last paragraph or the one right before the last.
SPEAKER_02It's a section that talks about if you're if you're a citizen of any European Union country or Switzerland, Norway, or Iceland, use this product explicitly is prohibited. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02And why is that?
SPEAKER_00Uh it means I get to see Europeans now. For clicking a button and not reading the contract.
SPEAKER_02Do you have anything in it that uh geofences it? No.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00Anything that dials home? They're supposed to read, man. You can't be installing shit you don't read. That's illegal. Right, but how are you going to know that they've installed it? Oh, oh, I see what you mean. Well, I mean, I got my ways. Let's just say I'll know if they're running it. Anyway. Yeah, so the point is that if you're good at managing people currently, you're gonna be it's gonna be easier for you, and you'll probably be quicker at understanding how to manage the AI to get to what you need to do to get. And if it's something that you've never thought about, it doesn't mean you can't learn to do it. It's just not going to be a skill that you're currently already using.
Debugging Metrics And Sensor Data
SPEAKER_00And that's that's where I've seen a lot of these issues because like I started saying, the the issue that Darren's app had that I noticed right away is all the all the labels were in bits. Now, obviously for network speed, that's fine, that's what it should be. It should be measured in gigabits. That's typically how it's reported. But for a lot of other things that it's measuring, it should not be using bits.
SPEAKER_02Like RAM. You don't want your RAM measured out in bits.
SPEAKER_00No, exactly. And I told it to fix that. So I had to go through and get get stuff like that noticeable. Well, first of all, I had to notice it, and then I had to tell it to fix it. You know, your the other thing that it had was it was reporting CPU usage in a legitimate but not useful way, which I I don't like it when I see apps that do this. It was using 100% as 100% of a single core. You've seen this before where you have apps that are using 180% of the CPU.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00It's it's not technically wrong, it's just annoying. So I had to have it fix that. And just a bunch of little things like that. Then when porting from the Mac to the PC, it it couldn't sense the temperature at all, because obviously Macs are actually easy. On that count, you can actually talk to the it's got like known standardized commands for sensors for temperature. Same thing for power usage, like on the Mac, you could just query the power usage right off the motherboard, and it'll tell you how much power it's using.
SPEAKER_02Well, you can use it in Windows as well, but each motherboard has a different each motherboard, but each component is separate.
SPEAKER_00The power that your your GPU is using, the power your CPU is using, the power that motherboard itself is using for things like fans and hard discs. So there's a number of different power things that are you query independently because they don't all exist necessarily. And I did something that kind of looks nice, I think, too. I overlaid the the GPU power and the or sorry, I overlaid the GPU temp and the CPU temp on top of each other. So you could see both of those on the same line, but in different colors.
SPEAKER_02Very cool. But as far as forward to running it in my sandbox.
SPEAKER_00But as far as power usage, you know, that required quite a bit of collecting data from different sensors and then doing math. Because a lot of these things don't report don't actually report the power in watts that you're using. They're reporting voltages and they're reporting, like we can calculate the watts used, but it's not a native sensor response. So I have to do that, and then again, test that against other software that's using sensors to see if the calibration is correct or not. So there's definitely been some stuff done that's more specific to the PC version. The one thing I haven't done yet, and before I switch to Linux, I'm gonna have to do on here is to get the GPU calibration done so that it can report the or not not GPU, the basically the neural processor. So see if I can get data.
SPEAKER_02Neural processor? You mean your NVIDIA card?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. But date get data not just for how much memory is used and whether it's running or not, like a GPU, but see if there's any other sensory data that is available from that card. Or other cards. And then use that. Because again, on the Mac, there's an actual query that you can do to test how much of the AI-related processors are being utilized. Because on the Mac, you know they're separate from the GPS.
SPEAKER_02All of that can be done through the NVIDIA. There's a command line app, at least on Linux. I don't remember what it's called right now, but all of that it's very easy to do on Linux at least.
When AI Recreates A Paid App
SPEAKER_00What's the phrase? Open clarity, whatever. For openness. The app looks amazingly like another commercial app that's out there. And Darren mentioned this, but I hadn't looked at the commercial app until after working on this thing. He basically just copied what is uh otherwise a commercial app. So you stole the source code. That's what I wanted to know. Because, like, did we just have the AI commit some theft here? The source code is not available. What's the app? I can tr uh find it here as we're talking. It's it's actually I think it's called T Mog. T M O G. It's T O M T Mog.org.
SPEAKER_02T Mog knows why.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's uh Dan. It's Dan from his. Okay.
SPEAKER_00It's the guy the it's written by the guy that wrote the original Windows task manager. So you may recognize some things from this app to my app. It's a hundred bucks. Damn. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02For the Pro 9D.
SPEAKER_00Did you scroll down to the picture of the UI?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_00It's somewhat similar. Similar. So uh the pro the the the thing I had to laugh at is it copied the UI, which you know, I mean I've certainly had other developers copy shit when we were working on stuff in the past. That's the normal thing. But it copied it very, very closely, and then it copied the logo. That's hilarious. And I was like, dude, Darren, did you not look at the damn logo and then tell it to come up with a new logo? Because I thought that was your logo that it just came up with that little squiggle. Turns out it just copied it from the other product. All I did is just remove the word T-Mug. So there is, you know, I mean, I would call this flattery because it's, you know, copying is a sincerest form of flattery. But here's the amazing part. It literally recreated this app that does not have source code publicly available. It recreated, including the functionality of all the stuff on the left side. Pulling processes, looking at system info, looking at whatever apps you have is set up for startup. Like it literally copied that functionality based off of looking at a UI.
SPEAKER_02Do we know what the difference is between his free and pro versions are?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the pro version lets you record data for analysis. And uh, you could download the free one. It does most things. It's a the pro one probably does like 10% of the most interesting things. But visually they you can download it.
SPEAKER_02I just want to know what the difference between pro and non-pro is.
SPEAKER_00Well, he's got a chart in there if you look. At tmog.org. I'm there, and I'll be right back. It's also interesting to me that this is a commercial product being sold on a .org website. It's not illegal by any means, but it's it goes against the intent. Your.orgs are supposed to be numerous.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_02Y'all's file is smaller.
SPEAKER_00Than his? Yeah, I'm not surprised.
SPEAKER_02Why? I kinda am. He's a pretty good coder.
SPEAKER_00It's written better. Oh, by by the way, do you know what the app is written in?
SPEAKER_02C? What?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, C.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me from Plummer.
SPEAKER_00It's very tight code. It is. I mean, it is using libraries that are publicly available, obviously. But I suspect so does T Mug. But the idea that you can literally have an app be copied from looking at some pictures of another app's UI is pretty damn impressive. Because when I first saw it, I was like, there's gotta be source code for this thing. It must have just found the source code. It had to download the source code and then slap your name on it, right? Nope. Source code's not available. You can't get it. So unless this you know thing got figured out how to hack into his repository, I don't think it uses any actual code that he used unless it's already a public library. So it's just emulating the UI. And and then deriving what those functions should be based on what the UI says.
SPEAKER_02You know what's really interesting about that is if it just copied it from the website, for example, it's basically scraping the images, and then uh that would be impressive if that were the case. Yeah. And that's that sure looks like that's what happened. All right. Well, I'm gonna pay Dave some money, I guess.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Darren bought his thing as well, eventually. I think he felt bad. Dave's a good guy.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. But and by the way, if you don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about Dave Plummer.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. A ex-Microsoft current multimillionaire who is doing stuff that I would be doing if I had money. Putt sneaking around. Making little apps. Of course, I'm doing the same thing without money, but yeah, you know what I mean. So alright, anything else on AI? Anything else on AI?
Cloud AI Value And Voice Cloning
SPEAKER_00Well, I I not I guess really, just the the general the general summary or impression is that right now a thousand dollars worth of AI, you get a hell of a lot more money for a thousand dollars of paying for data center AI than a thousand dollars of at home UI AI. You because the at-home AI is fucking slow. And the data center one is what models are you running this? Way faster.
SPEAKER_02Uh I'm running MinMax. Have you tried any of the Quinn models or anything like that? No.
SPEAKER_00You that's Min Max is the fastest one out there. Okay. It's if you've got 32 gigs, that is the model that everybody points you at. So other models may have advantages and higher size memories. This one is optimized for 32 gigs. Now, one thing I haven't tried, I'll be trying. I think this should work a lot faster is the text of speech, like cloning somebody's voice and then using that voice for speaking. And they've got connectors to even do that in real time. So you can do the CSB fake voice thing to where it will listen to you say it, convert your audio into text, and then convert the text into a clone of somebody else's audio in basically real time, meaning, you know, delay of like less than 10 seconds. Okay. So I'll play around with that. And I haven't used it for the development stuff. I've exclusively been using Grok for that. But the original source code for this thing that Darren got came out of the new version of ChatGPT's coding AI. So that that's actually the thing that replicated the functionality based on an image. Grok was used to basically convert it from Mac to PC and then make sure everything's working.
SPEAKER_02I'm not
Old Hardware Lessons And Internet Fallout
SPEAKER_02sure about his scaling here on power. Because like he's got my GPU pulling 50% power, and it's only pulling 86 watts.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I'm just looking, making sure he's looking at the right GPU.
SPEAKER_00Do you oh you got more than one in there? Well, there's the onboard. It's so it's gonna pull the the power out of discrete GPU. But that's that's about right. Like, if you're not doing anything that involves 3D rendering, our GPUs run pretty damn efficiently.
SPEAKER_02Right, but it's it's say the if I'm at the summary page, it's showing a 50% usage on the graph. Like that bar should be no this card can pull way more than 160 watts.
SPEAKER_00Oh, of course. So you're you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02He's doing some relative scaling, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Scaling is dynamic, it adjusts.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00So as you use more, you're gonna be on the right side, and it'll just adjust it, just like the Windows version does. So at peak, like playing a video game, it's showing my PC using 485 watt. If I look on what my PC is using at the wall outlet with a measuring, you know, one of those outlets that tells you what it's going to do.
SPEAKER_02A kilowatt or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I think that's the exact one I got. So that number I have is just a little over 500. So it's it's off by about 30, 35 watt, which is the stuff that's unaccounted for on the PC. So it's it's you know, stuff that's plugged in. It's your RGB lighting. It exactly. That's you, I think you're exactly right. It's shit like my RGB lighting.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00Which gotta say, there's a lot of it in there. So it's close enough.
SPEAKER_02It's close enough to Gene has his entire computer to set up uh and replicate the Russian flag.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, that's that's gotta be it. Yeah. But no matter how much power you use, it's gonna be way less than what my custom gaming rig was using 15, 18 years ago. Which I told you about. That was my sub-freezing temperature PC.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I had a pretty wild PC back in the Pentium 4 days.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, getting old, dude.
SPEAKER_02I mean, how many kids today even know what a pentium processor is? They don't need to. They they've or the Intel inside.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Intel inside. Yeah, the unlocked, the e versions of the processors back in the day.
SPEAKER_02Nope. That you could it, dude. I remember the first time I did overclocking was literally jumpers on the fucking motherboard. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you know if you fucked up when you smell something.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00Ooh, hot, hot, hot. Yep. Oh yeah, like playing with with the multiplier rates and then voltages and everything. It's the thing is, you could do all that right now. Like, I've got the software with my motherboard. It's a native functionality to my motherboard. Yeah, yeah. It I just don't because I'm an adult now.
SPEAKER_02I run Expo and I I run some of the RAM stuff, you know.
SPEAKER_00I just I just buy it at the speed I'm okay running it at. Because the the trade-off that you don't think about when you're young that you do when you're older is is it gonna keep working for five years without me having to fuck around with it?
SPEAKER_02Well, you saw the Intel chips that have recently been dying. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, I mean before their expected lifespan.
SPEAKER_00There's a lot of NVIDIA chips that are having issues on the 5090s, especially.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00On the 5080 Ti, they're having issues. There, there's quite a few issues, and even the AMDs had some issues that I saw on some of their lower end or CPUs. They had some early deaths reported. Now, thankfully, their higher-end stuff's running good, but it's, you know, I think because everyone's operating in a very tight margin, not because of money, even so much, but because of supply and demand.
SPEAKER_02Well, and just the process, right?
SPEAKER_00These tight nanometer processes or because you you remember how CPUs back when Microsoft or when Intel was leading this thing was were classified. It's basically there was like one main production line for Intel CPUs for the uh Pentium 4s. And what determined what that came out of it was the testing process. At which point does that CPU fail? And 10% back off from that would then classify it what what what rate, what frequency the CPU was released at. Was it a 3.2 chip or a 3.4 chip? Or was it a 2.8 chip? Like that was determined based on failure of the exact same chips coming off the line.
SPEAKER_02Off the same wafer, yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And so you might end up with like 10% that could be e-rated because they didn't fail. And then a whole bunch of them that were rated lower that'd be sold for cheaper. I don't believe that they do that anymore. But for a while, that's absolutely how those chips were coming off the line. So it's it's um it is interesting, and you see it more and more as you get older, Ben. Of just like it is really a cool thing to see yourself as an observer of history. Like lived through a point in time when the internet was ARPANET, when nobody was using it unless they were in college or the military. And then seeing what it's become since then, and then thinking, man, if I was around when baby Hitler was around, would I shoot him? If I was around when the internet first came out, would I shoot the internet?
SPEAKER_02I know my answer.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, I know your answer too. It's like, don't shoot anything that brings me goth girls.
SPEAKER_02Oh, hell no. I would I would take out the internet in a heartbeat, dude. I think I think society is worse off for having really it's the social media, not necessarily the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, that that even goes down to like forums and things being potentially problematic. Like the the great thing about the internet is also its worst feature, right? And there's no way to engineer around that societally.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_02Speaking
Death Penalty Methods And The Halt
SPEAKER_02of engineering around things societally, what do you think of the governor calling off the execution of the murderer?
SPEAKER_00I don't understand why, man. I that that made no sense to me.
SPEAKER_02Well, why did they even try a second lethal injection and not just shooter?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that would have been better. Well, we did have a little off-air conversation in the in the in our private group there about that, because my thought was it's time to bring back the guillotine. Because contrary to what people may think, the guillotine was invented as the least cruel of all methods to put somebody down.
SPEAKER_02In theory, yes. The the inventor said it would just feel like a cool wisp air of uh wind against the back of your neck.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. But that you prove that. Well, has anyone complained? No. So it it's achieved its purpose, obviously. You do a test, you you ask for you know participant opinion, they don't have anything bad to say. It's a it's a good device. So but really because their head is gone. Exactly. Yes, exactly. So it works exactly as that advice. I know from being from having various accidents over the course of my life where I get smacked somewhere really hard, or I fall and land badly, that the immediate first thing that you notice is a lack of feeling. Like your body is very good at immediately showing shutting down your nerves completely, and then in the next few seconds thereafter, feeling starts coming back, and you realize you just hurt yourself massively. But yeah, the initial thing, like you have the visual observation, maybe you even hear a bone break, and but you don't feel pain at all for about five seconds, and after about five seconds, that pain starts flooding in. So I I think for that sort of personal experience of of multiple times, I do think that very likely this is the least right.
SPEAKER_02But we're in agreement that they shouldn't be stopping or halting under any circumstances. They should finish the fucking job.
SPEAKER_00They should finish the job. But also, I think on that list it goes like guillotine as the least cruel. And then I would say probably you know, firing squad would be second. The electric chair, probably third. Because there that can take a little longer than the guillotine for sure. Hanging could last a minute. Like you could be up there alive for a whole minute. So that's not a particularly good way, unless you want to be cruel. And on the very bottom of that list, like the worst, most torturous way to kill somebody is what they're doing with the drugs.
SPEAKER_02Well, and part of that's because they don't consistently apply the same cocktail, right?
SPEAKER_00Well, and it's it makes no sense anyway. Like I've seen people die overdosing on opium and they're happy the whole time. Just fucking give them opium a lot more than a human can handle, and that person will be dead and they'll have a smile on their face. But that's not what they do. They basically give you Draeno.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00It's meant to cause cardiac arrest. But before that happens, really high fucking blood pressure, like every vein in your body feels like it's gonna burst. Your eyeballs are about ready to pop out. I mean, it's just like disgusting shit. And I I get it, only the most you know, brutal killers would get a death penalty, like mothers who killed their children. But that remains to be seen, but well, you one hopes. One can only dream, right? But it's just so wrong. Like you're if you wanted to ensure that no one ever does another death penalty, then you would want to be the lobby that pushes drugs.
SPEAKER_02Well, what what it what just doesn't make sense to me is even if they spare her at this point, like she gets a pardon or whatever, she's gonna be a fucked up vegetable for the rest of her life.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. And then So, how is that humane? Exactly at that point, that's not like sparing a death row victim, that's just plain torture. You were willing to torture a person beyond what they do at Gitmo, beyond waterboarding them. You were willing to torture somebody with a lethal combination of drugs and then stopped it just beforehand. Uh, just kidding. Just want to make sure you knew that you were really fucked. Okay, now you can go and live the rest of your life in a bed that you can't get out of that you're gonna wet your bed with because you can't hold your pee. How? How is that a pardon? Again, not saying she should have been part. I think they should have finished the job, is right.
SPEAKER_02I yeah, I think they should have immediately shifted when the first drugs didn't take, go to firing squad.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, you you know the old the old joke about the CIA exam of shooting the dog. No, no, no. Well, maybe, maybe it is a variant of the same joke, yeah. But so there's a you know, final test, the guy comes in, there's three three guys, three agents getting ready, or they're not agents yet getting ready to uh graduate. And it's okay, so you know, in what you're gonna be doing, so you gotta make some really tough choices. So we're we're gonna have to do that type of test with you before we can let you graduate. And then the guy comes out crying, and he's like, Yeah, I I I can't I can't do this. Then the other two guys are looking at him like, uh huh, what what the hell? What's what's in there? Then the second guy goes in goes into a room and you hear you hear some crying from him inside the room, and then you hear a gunshot. And then he he then he walks out of their room and and they said, Okay, you got you you passed part one, now you gotta go in for part two, and he walks into the second room and he's already, you know, really disturbed. And then he just breaks down in the second room, walks out, says, Yeah, I I I I can't do this. Third guy's going, What the hell, man? So he's like walks into the first room and there's his dog in that room, and there's a gun sitting on the table, and there's a letter that that says, Take the gun and shoot your dog. And the guy's like, you know, this is what I signed up for, I guess. So he takes the gun, shoots the dog, immediately after he shoots his gun, the the separation between where he and the dog were just like drops off out of the ceiling. So you can't see the dead dog. And he's thinking, well, that's it's you know that's probably because they don't want me to, you know, see the aftermath and break down. So he gets out of the room, they're like, okay, well, you passed the the first part there. The guy goes into the second room and the the group that's conducting the the test, all they can hear is some squabbling type sounds, like two people arguing, followed by a lot of thuds. And they're like, what the hell? The guy walks out of the room and he's got a he's not smiling, but he's got like a okay, I did what you want me to do kind of look on his face. So they're like, What what happened? What what'd you do? He says, Well, you know, I did your test. So in the first room I walked in, and there's my dog, and he said, shoot the dog, and I I did what I was told, so I had to shoot the dog, take the gun, shoot the gun. Dog must be dead, you know. The you guys like dropped a curtain down or whatever, so I wouldn't see him. I appreciate that. And then got in the second room, and there's there's my wife sitting in a in a chair. And I see a piece of paper, and it it says here's a gun, shoot your wife with a gun. So I take the gun and I shoot my wife, but nothing happened. Like there wasn't even a sound, like nothing happened. So I had to beat her with the handle of the gun until she was dead. I passed your test.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. The test was to see if you would do it, not to actually do it.
SPEAKER_00Right. So the the test is they set up a condition to see if he would start doing kind of like God did, right? Back for uh Abraham.
SPEAKER_02Right, with Isaac. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So, but the guy was he was gonna he's gonna do this. He was gonna become an agent no matter what they asked. So he realized that if there's a failure of technology, you just have to improvise.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't think that was the intent of the well, it might have been a poorly planned test, too. Indeed, like having an observer in there for safety.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that would have been probably useful. But and I'm I'm sure I'm butchering it. There's probably a cleaner way to tell this story. I I first heard it 30 years ago, but it's the concept still works, is that sometimes you you run across these overachiever types.
SPEAKER_02So, did
Military Culture And Fortress Thinking
SPEAKER_02you see Heg Seth's latest speech?
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Dude.
SPEAKER_00What do you mean, no beardos? What the fuck? Fuck that guy.
SPEAKER_02Why? No beardos.
SPEAKER_00He's meaning like, you know, the well, you. Yeah, yeah, he's meaning me. Huh. No fat dudes, no beards. Well, wait a minute. Hold on here.
SPEAKER_02I thought it was great, though.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, I like XF. I I think he's exactly the stereotype that I want running my military. Well, he definitely agrees with you on the whole total war thing. Yeah, yeah, that's why I said he's exactly the type that I want running my military. He's not he's not the guy I'm gonna be sitting down having a deep intellectual conversation with, but he is the guy that I'm gonna entrust with the military.
SPEAKER_02Well, I thought it was interesting, also, the idea of building out Fortress America, right? With the new bases and everything else.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it goes right around North and South America.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's that's where Fortress America is.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, you're saying the quiet part out loud.
SPEAKER_00There definitely are a split. Split opinions about him in the military.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and you know what the split is?
SPEAKER_00Well, there's more than one split.
SPEAKER_02No, there's one major split, and that split is between enlisted and officers. A lot of officers don't like him. Yeah. All the enlisted, like all of the enlisted that I've talked to. Well, that's probably fair enough.
SPEAKER_00I only know officers, so I don't know any enlisted guys. But in the officers, like very conservative guys that totally agree with us on most topics, that some of them still have fairly low opinions of Pete. And I think part of it comes from the the way that promotions work in the military. It's it's kind of tenure-based. Yeah, which is not have you done enough shit that you've earned your opportunity to go up a level. And I think a lot of officers consider Pete having to not have well, to basically have failed at that. Like he was in the military long enough to have really achieved much.
SPEAKER_02Okay, but he he's not in the military anymore, he's civilian oversight.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. That's my point. That's why I always remind those like, well, it's a good thing he's working for the executive, then, isn't it? But I think it's it is you know, it's historically, it's an old boys' club. Unfortunately, over the last 20 years, it's become more of a girls' club. There's a lot more trannies in there, but that's what I love about Pete, is like no more fatties, no more trannies. Right.
SPEAKER_02And he's instilling that all the way through the higher ranks, yeah. You know, there were a lot of fat ass generals out there.
SPEAKER_00Oh, dude, believe me, I I see a lot of these guys, and and I know a few of them. Yeah, totally. A lot of people have retired in this last two years. Good and and the ones that haven't are failing their medicals or failing their PTs. Good. So, I mean, they've got time to redo them and stuff. It's not like, oh, you didn't run a quarter mile fast enough, you're out of the military. But it is definitely something that starts timer ticking, and typically that timer just encourages people to retire.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, all I can say is afuera.
SPEAKER_00Afuera, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. Out, outside, gone.
SPEAKER_00And I do think our current military is way top heavy, it's too bloated. There's there's way more generals, way more just you know what's scary about that?
SPEAKER_02What is top heavy and as bloated as our military is, when you look at the British Navy and you realize you have more flag officers than ships. Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00No, Britain is just fucked men.
SPEAKER_02I saw a good video the other day that was Well, I'm I'm becoming convinced they're they are gonna head to a civil war. But I yeah, I but I think the result isn't an Islamic state or a return to the glory of Britain. I think it's gonna be a failed state.
SPEAKER_00Could be that would suck, but yeah. The video I watched that was the topic was if the Falklands war happens today, would the US support Argentina or the UK?
SPEAKER_02And I think we'd stay out of it and Argentina would take it.
SPEAKER_00Well, and the the the thesis of the video was basically that there there's ten times as many reasons for the US to support Argentina as there is to support the UK right now. Sure, absolutely. So um it's in our interest to keep the UK out of our hemisphere.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I I I would not be surprised if that ends up happening, especially if there's any domestic unrest. I think the only way out, like I think I think Scotland, Ireland, and Wales have a potential way out. But as far as You mean Brexit? As an exit out of Britain? Yes.
SPEAKER_00It's ironically. And then deport.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then deport, deport, deport.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I I think they could. The problem is that they they don't produce a hell of a lot on their own, so they're gonna be in importing countries, and their closest neighbors are socialists in Europe. Well, you know, it can just be our little foothold in uh in Europe.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, I I it's it's hard, man. It's hard to say because I think like the best the best move they would have is just starting a brand new alliance with Poland.
SPEAKER_02Well, little little uh European Texas, yes.
SPEAKER_00European Texas, yeah.
Nashville Trip And Road Recording
SPEAKER_02Hey, a programming note. I am going to be in Nashville next week. I am going to uh cybersecurity conference out there, nice. Uh, and I will be in Nashville. So okay. So if anyone's got any ideas for Nashville. If anyone's going to the I Security Week ICS conference, you know, shoot me a note.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Mental body a drink.
SPEAKER_02You know, it could have worked the other way around, asshole.
SPEAKER_00I beat you to the punch.
SPEAKER_02Anyway. But we gotta make a decision either try and do one from the road or yeah, let's do it because you were all yapping about how great your headphones are, so let's do one from the road.
SPEAKER_00Just make sure you charge them up before that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. I mean, they last all day. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's good.
SPEAKER_02I use them constantly. Yeah. Because we have maybe a little shorter episode, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I think I think that's gonna be uh a good thing to do. What else you want to talk about?
ATF Forms And The NFA Problem
SPEAKER_02Well, we have the ATF coming out and saying that 4473 transfers. We still don't have the full guidance, but we have the guidance to the field offices that 4473 transfers are good to go.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Which I don't know if you saw the armed attorney's analysis of it.
SPEAKER_00I watched the first 10 minutes. I I had to stop.
SPEAKER_02Well, so it was interesting because they were pondering the question of okay, so if I have a suppressor, can I sell it to my buddy? And since the 4473 is not required for private sell, can I just hand it off?
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02And the question really came down to well, was it originally transferred as a 4473 or is it on the NFA roles? Because if it's on the NFA roles, don't touch that with a 10-foot pole.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. And that was I got that far. And I think that was the first thing.
SPEAKER_02I think that's what I think that's what they're going to have to realize is that they either have to clut create two classes of people, which then is in then you've got a 14th Amendment violation. Or you go through and say, okay, we can't do this, we can't do that, the NFA's fucking dead.
SPEAKER_00They really need to kill the NFA. I think ultimately killing the NFA just solves all the problems.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_00Well, most of them, but you gotta kill the uh the what was it, the 88th gun bill along with it.
SPEAKER_02Yes, and the Brady bill and several other things.
SPEAKER_00Because hopefully there's gonna be enough lawsuits for that to end up being the conclusion that look, this whole series of interwoven legislation that started almost a hundred years ago now, 90 years ago, was just faulty from the get-go, and we kept building on top of that lattice. And at this point, you cannot argue in good conscience the legality of anything else that followed on top of that legislation. And uh hopefully they'll get to that point very soon because you're right. Like right now, there's literally two completely independent paths. I can drive to my local silencer shop, walk in, and buy a silencer on just the normal form 4470 and then go home, or I can talk to a different dealer and then have to do the full paperwork for the background, even though it's zero dollars, and only get that once approval is sent back. Like that's that's clearly not right to have two different processes there, and you can't leave it like that when the next administration comes into office. Because you know what they're gonna do, they're gonna immediately have a decision on this from the the new ATF director that says the last ATF director was insane and he made mistakes, and now we're reverting back every process.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean you're you're assuming that the Republicans are going to lose, but yes. You're assuming the Republicans are going to lose, but yes.
SPEAKER_00What's a safe assumption that at some point the Democrats will be back in power for my entire life? It's alternated back and forth.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I don't know that that's a safe assumption anymore. The Democratic Party is breaking badly with all this work shit.
SPEAKER_00Well, fair enough. And and we have had historically in the past, some parties like you know, the the Whigs die off.
SPEAKER_02Well, and I don't think you've we haven't seen an election since USAID was dismantled. So I I think it's gonna be the results of this are going to say a lot.
SPEAKER_00Maybe, yeah. I I mean here's what I'm not gonna do, because this gets you in trouble. I'm not gonna say that the conservatives are one big happy party. Because that's just not the case. There are people that hopefully will still vote in conservative-leaning manner in the next several elections, but they are getting further and further apart from other people that would vote conservative. The America First versus MAGA, the the rift is only growing.
SPEAKER_02Okay, but I would also counter and say at a far slower and less rate than the Democrats.
SPEAKER_00Well, the Democrats just got taken over by the socialists. And so the the a lot of Democrats that were I mean, let's let's be like the wealthier, more affluent Democrats.
SPEAKER_02The blue dog democrats are now conservatives.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but blue dog democrats have been always kind of more conservative leading. But I I mean, like, beyond just blue dog conservatives, it's it's more of the the guys like the the homosexually presenting couple that you love. Like those guys were obviously liberals 15 years ago. Hell, probably 10 years ago they were liberals.
SPEAKER_02I think they're still liberals.
SPEAKER_00Uh Trump's first turn kind of made them well, they're conservative. I mean, they're, you know, they're pro-natalism, they're anti-abortion. Be hard pressed to call them liberals.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't think you can call yourself pro-natalist by taking it up the ass, but okay.
SPEAKER_00But you keep saying that like you've seen this happening. I that's why I keep referring to him as gay presenting, not actually gay. I think he's just he's just a what in the olden days would have been a nerd whose head got put in the toilet. That's what he looks like to me. He looks like he's wet at about 130 pounds. Oh. And he's very, you know, he's got the weird ass glasses, and he's just asking to be stuffed into a locker. Right, but see, but that I wouldn't make him.
SPEAKER_02Myself in that category in a lot of ways.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's why I always kind of describe you as, you know.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh. As what?
SPEAKER_00You know, like uh it's a good thing he's from Texas. Because you know what we have here: queers, tears, not much else.
SPEAKER_02Oh man. Well, I still like you, Ben.
SPEAKER_00I don't care what your sexuality is.
SPEAKER_02Very hetero, thank you.
SPEAKER_00I I think that generally speaking, a an attraction to goth girls is a good indicator of being more bi than anything.
SPEAKER_02How so?
SPEAKER_00Why are you trying to hide their femininity with all that makeup?
SPEAKER_02No, I I disagree. It's accentuating the more like trannies than they look like actual women. It's the big titty goth girl look. That little bit of a softness, you know, anyway.
SPEAKER_00My point is that after a while of being around a lot of different types of people, you you kind of learn to recognize that there are definitely straight people that are presenting as gay, and there's some gay people presenting as straight.
SPEAKER_02Sure. What's his name? Zohan. Not Mandani, Zayhan. Oh, Zahan.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like he he is a very straight presenting gay man.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00And there's just little subtle things that you can notice about him if you're really if you're not paying attention, you'll never notice it.
SPEAKER_02So in the Zahan analysis streak, holy shit, dude, Texas has a stock market. Yeah, I know, right? Like Charles fucking Schwab right is now being listed on the Texas stock market.
Texas Stock Market And Business Flight
SPEAKER_00Yep, it's hilarious. It's like, what is New York going to do?
SPEAKER_02Oh, fuck New York. Fuck New Collapse, dude, if the stock wouldn't be a bad thing. We have we have major energy companies moving. Charles Schwab alone, that's over a hundred billion dollar valuation to the tech Texas stock market. Yeah, yeah. Well, you do let's. That's their market cap valuation, not their total assets under management.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02Those are different numbers.
SPEAKER_00I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're considered, I think, either the biggest or one of the biggest of the money managers, yeah. The non, yeah, like the the people-facing traders, not institutions.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, dude, the uh what the fuck is New York gonna do if Texas takes their stock markets?
SPEAKER_00Well, I can't wait for there to be a big bull statue right in front of the Texas stock market.
SPEAKER_02Man, I'm I'm telling you that I don't think people understand how big of a story this is to see the companies we've already seen go, yep, we're out. This sounds great.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think Elon's the most publicly visible of that, but pretty much all tech companies ditched California.
SPEAKER_02It's not relisted yet, though.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, it'll end up there. My my point is Texas attracts the right kind of people. We just need to keep the wrong kind of people out, and that's the bigger issue. Like we gotta pass some anti-Islam laws. Agreed. Because it's it's they uh that we are the third largest Islamist community in the country right now in Texas. And uh the only saving grace that we have is that the average IQ of the Islamists is two digits. But it doesn't mean they can't overwhelm us with their stupidity.
SPEAKER_02What's your take on the Air Dubai flight?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I've been watching that for a few days now. It like it made all
The Air Dubai Hijacking Breakdown
SPEAKER_00the you know the Pro June networks way before anything else. Bench Bureau had an hour-long special on it. It's uh she did. I mean, I I almost hate to use this language, but it's exactly what I expected. Which is what? Which is that if there is a hijacking attempt and there's a predominantly plane full of Jews, that's not gonna end well for the hijacker. Yeah, because I think Israeli Jews are not you know, they're not the the comfortable living Jews of America. They're a lot more rough around the edges. And so you you gotta consider that between the time that this Muslim stabbed the pilot who is Indian and immediately started the plane into a corkscrew pivoting towards the ground. During the corkscrew, enough people had figured out what was going on, got out of their seats, rushed forward to the pilot store, and were breaking it down, which happily ended up happening even faster because the pilot who was stabbed noticed was sitting in the co-pilot seat trying to hold the steering to make sure he we hit the ground, and managed to fall down on his knees and trip the switch to open the door. At which point, then a handful of passengers got in there and pummeled the hijacker, dragged him out, and then since the pilot was basically incapacitated, had to get into the co-pilot seat and then level the plane back.
SPEAKER_02What there were several other pilots on the flight that took over.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, there but there's a few of everybody at the flight. There's also several doctors on the flight. There was quite a few lawyers on the flight, and the guy apparently that was doing the majority of the pummeling was the CEO of an $80 billion bank. So, like I said, they're they're he'll be sued. They're not quite built the same way as the American Jews.
SPEAKER_02Well, he's gonna get sued by who?
SPEAKER_00The guy he was pummeling. Yeah, that that guy'll be lucky to talk ever again. Spend the rest of his life in in Israeli prison. Didn't land in Israel. They didn't, but they landed in Saudi. Yeah, they did totally, but thankfully Saudi Arabia and Israel have a they have an accord now.
SPEAKER_02Well, they don't have an extradition treaty, that's for damn sure.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I think they'll they'll happily give him up. If he's even still there. He could very well already be in Israel by now. Well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02It it just smells like a false flag to me.
SPEAKER_00Jesus. What what about something with 174 people aboard, 23 of whom were children, smells like a false flag to you?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. You mean like 9-11? 9 Well, I like you. Yeah, I'm barely Jewish. No, I like dude, literally, the example would be 9-11.
SPEAKER_00So you're saying it's a failed red flag, or what? Yeah. And what were they gonna fly into? They looked like they were going straight down into the sand. Somewhere in Israel. They weren't anywhere near Israel, and at the moment that this guy did the stabbing, they were basically on the coast of Saudi Arabia.
SPEAKER_02Okay, well then maybe it was just a shitty suicide attempt.
SPEAKER_00And the first thing he did was point the plane into a nosedive.
SPEAKER_02Then maybe it was just a shitty suicide attempt.
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean, if you're gonna suicide everybody else with you.
SPEAKER_02Uh depends. My point is Israel came out and said that this was a terrorist attack.
SPEAKER_00It wasn't a that's what we called these types of incidents for the the 100 years prior to 9-11. These were referred to as terrorist attacks, or if the guy wasn't trying to kill everything. Hijackings, then it was a hijacking. But it's not really a hijacking if the intent was to kill everybody. So I don't know. I I I don't think there's any way you can spin this into a red flag. There's just way too many inconveniences here. Okay. And what would it achieve?
SPEAKER_02What do you mean?
SPEAKER_00Well, what usually a red flag has a goal that you're trying to achieve. False flag, yeah. Right, false flag. Sorry, you're right. False flag. So, what would be the goal for this if it was a false flag?
SPEAKER_02Giving Israel a Cassius Belly.
SPEAKER_00Which they already have.
SPEAKER_02Not that the world fully accepts it.
SPEAKER_00There's not been a day that Israel hasn't bombed somebody, whether it's Lebanon or Iran or Gaza or something. And it Israel is in wartime right now, still. I don't think there's an excuse necessary there. I also don't think it would affect any kind of sympathy from the West if like 174 Israelis got killed. That's a drop in the bucket. You'd have jokes coming up, well, you know, 99% to go. I don't know, man. I just I I, you know, I'm always happy to hear of uh false flag operations. I just I don't see how this can be characterized as one. Whether it worked or not, it just seems like a a hijacking that was intent on just killing more Jews.
SPEAKER_02And I don't I don't think it was why were there so many damn Jews on a flight on a Dubai Airlines flight?
SPEAKER_00Because Jews fly to Dubai all the time, obviously. Dubai's a nice city. What do you you know? You've been there. I've been there. I have it's just in the past they had to fly through Jordan, now they can fly direct. But I I just don't see any any hocus pocus here. I think this was pretty clear as to what happened, what the intent was, and and amazingly nobody died as a result of this. Still put that airline in the group of airlines never to take a flight on. Why? Well, if they let this happen, obviously their procedures for security aren't very good.
SPEAKER_02I've never flown air Dubai, I've only flown Emirates, so can't speak to it, but I mean I got you know it's a much quad airline. Well, it's the budget version, yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02But I got quad-esed on Emirates.
SPEAKER_00But this guy apparently had only been working there for like a year.
SPEAKER_02Well, and my question is, how did he get the knife through security?
SPEAKER_00Well, that's literally what I mean. It's like the these guys are not doing any kind of checks at all.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, I've flown with a knife accidentally, like I had a leatherman in my backpack once that didn't get caught by TSA.
SPEAKER_00Every Leatherman I have ever accidentally had with me has always gotten found.
SPEAKER_02Okay, well, I am telling you right now, I have accidentally gotten through security unintentionally with you know something, realized it after I had already landed and was going through my bag on the other side and went, oh shit.
SPEAKER_00Did you nail it back to yourself?
SPEAKER_02I guess I did. Yes, I absolutely did. A buddy of mine, a buddy of mine went through security with his carry gun. Yeah, having forgotten
Airport Security And Accidental Contraband
SPEAKER_02about it, realized it, went back and admitted it, and you know, had some felony charges he had to fight and go through. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to admit shit like that.
SPEAKER_00Now, the the only stuff that I've accidentally forgot in my pockets were bullets. I never had a gun. But they they generally don't appreciate the bullets in your pocket either. Yeah. But the the nicest interaction with TSA I had was probably in the early 2000s at the airport where I did again, I had a Leatherman with me and didn't realize it. And then the they found it and they said, Well, if you want to send it back to yourself, just go over there and there's a kiosk for shipping it back to yourself. You just pull a bag out, swipe your credit card, put it in the bag, and it gets mailed back to your house. I'm like, like, that's brilliant. That's so much nicer than confiscation.
SPEAKER_02And I was right in the airport. And it should be what they do.
SPEAKER_00It should be, I agree, but I've only seen that in one airport. That's it. No, that was I've literally had that.
SPEAKER_02I've had that happen to me at like in a couple of places where they've offered to have me mail it back, and I've it was a pocket knife or something, I surrendered it, and the reason why is because I didn't have time to go back and do that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And then going way back to pre-9-11, I I had accidentally put ceramic knives into my carry-on in Japan.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Accidentally.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, accidentally flying out of Osaka with a bunch of ceramic knives that aren't supposed to get triggered by x-rays, but apparently they do. And, you know, then then the very polite Japanese person from their equivalent of whatever, this is pre-TSA, says, excuse me, we we have a problem, we need to do it. It's like, oh, what's what's what's did I bring food accidentally or something? He's like, no, it's not, it's not food, it's knives. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I did buy those. Yeah, that's right. They're very cool. Okay. So what do what do we do? What do we do? And all they did is they actually packed them up for me and then put them into uh checked luggage. There you go. It was exactly what I would expect to happen in Japan back then. Extremely polite, extremely efficient, but very polite.
SPEAKER_02But do you think that would happen today?
SPEAKER_00I don't think that would happen anywhere in the world today. I think most airlines, they they tend to be a lot more or a lot less understanding, a lot more aggressive. But I don't know, I've got one of my buddies in Japan right now. He's sending me pictures. He went to the I can't remember off the top of my head what the uh the name of the city is. But it's like the the Japanese capital of anime. Oh god. Do you know what that's called?
SPEAKER_02No, why would I know what that's called?
SPEAKER_00Well, I figured you'd you know, you're kind of anime presenting. Um the fuck am I anime presenting? Well, I just kinda get that impression.
SPEAKER_02The only anime's I have ever watched in my entire life are In Order, Speed Racer, Thundercats, Akubara, Akubara, Steam Man, Death Boat. Yes. You know, like I am not an anime guy.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, so it's Akibara, which is known for its manga and anime stuff. It's it's all very neon-lit city, kind of like if you want to look it up, it's A-K-I-H-A-B-A-R-A. Akibara. But one of the things they have there is they have they have a maid restaurant. Don't ask me how I know this. It's it's a place you can go and have Japanese girls in made outfits interact with you as your waitresses types. Okay. And stuff. And so I told him, you know, I suggested, it's like, well, you could you know, you could do this. And he's like, do what really and I, you know, so you could at least get a photo with a girl in the school uniform. And he's like, Yeah, it doesn't do anything for me. I'm like, okay, well then get a photo of one without you for me.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02You were trying to send him to the tentacle place.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I did.
SPEAKER_00So I'm like, Maid Cafe has great coffee, I hear. Somebody told me.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh. You may or may not end up with a tentacle in your ass, but you know, hey. So, yeah, it's uh it's an interesting place. You know, it is so funny to look at the different ethnic groups and their their porn. Yes. Like the Germans with their Shiza and all that, and then you know the Japanese with their hentai and bukake and all that nonsense. Oh yeah. Yet they want to blur shit. It's like, oh, what's the law?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they it's a decency law. They have to cover up the cubes. Sure. You have porn stars who have drowned to death in literal semen in Japan.
SPEAKER_02But you know, let's not let's fuzz this.
SPEAKER_00Like dude, the the freaking TV shows that they have on there are crazy.
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, Squid Games was South Korean.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, like, you know, sexually crazy, not like weird ass crazy. It's the it's really weird because nudity is like not a big thing in Japan. But so then why blur? But it's like nudity and modesty are both traits. So you're you're fine, you know, sitting in a bath with other naked people who you don't know, just as long as they can't see your pubes, apparently. It it and and like a literally a TV show where women are reading the news and weather reports while having semen dumped on them. On TV while you're sitting in the hotel watching it. Okay. I heard somebody told me. So it's an interesting place, Japan.
SPEAKER_02I have been to the Tokyo Airport.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, next time, hopefully, you get a little more time.
SPEAKER_02Planning
Japan Travel Culture And Akihabara
SPEAKER_02on it. Planning on it. In fact, I'm gonna have to take a trip internationally here before spring of next year.
SPEAKER_00So well, well, probably this year, so you can get your miles. That's more important.
SPEAKER_02Uh well, I already renewed platinum with United, and I don't think I can. I don't think I can.
SPEAKER_00You gotta think positive, my friend.
SPEAKER_02I I definitely can't with just domestic travel. And even if I add in one other international trip, I don't think. Sure. I don't think I can fit those both in between now and December 31st.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_02Really, honestly.
SPEAKER_00Hmm.
SPEAKER_02Like I'm looking at giving away trips to other co-workers, like, hey, you want to take this? Because I don't think I can get there.
SPEAKER_00I know that like doing a Japan trip is almost 25,000 miles by itself.
SPEAKER_02Well, but now it's PQQ, dude. That's true. Or PQP or whatever it is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the the price per mile or whatever the fuck calculation is. That is true. Like the cheap days of airlines are long passes. You never got to experience that, did you?
SPEAKER_02I mean, I've gotten the experience fairly cheap. Actually, taking a trip to Florida here towards the end of the month, that'll be you know, that was inexpensive from a point standpoint.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but that's different like back in the 90s, I would look for these last-minute deals, last-minute flights.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_00And I remember one of them I flew to Tokyo for $475.
SPEAKER_02Yeah,
Miles Points And Cheap Flights Then Now
SPEAKER_02that's that doesn't exist anymore.
SPEAKER_00No, no, and then use miles to upgrade to business. Like Europe, I flew multiple times to Europe for under 500 bucks.
SPEAKER_02Europe, you can still Do for around $5,600 if you're willing to go economy or economy plus on like Singapore.
SPEAKER_00Really? That's that's pretty cheap then. I figured Europe was at least a thousand no matter what now.
SPEAKER_02No, so there's a flight from Houston to Manchester that is regularly on Singapore Airlines, it's regularly around five, six hundred bucks for economy.
SPEAKER_00Wow, that's not bad at all.
SPEAKER_02And you're in one of the best airlines in the world.
SPEAKER_00My my cost of a flight, so coach cost of a flight from Austin nonstop to Seattle is about 700 bucks.
SPEAKER_02So it depends. So it depends on lots of different things. I was just looking at a bunch of different destinations and looking at yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00This was during this was obviously during the the World Cup.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_00But that's coach.
SPEAKER_02Like not even first class. Oh, the days of first class being under a thousand are gone.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00I still think first class is a better value.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm on for I'm already upgraded to first class for my trip to Knoxville. So nice perfect. I've never been to Tennessee.
SPEAKER_00It's been many years for me, but I have I I remember the food was good. It was good Southern cooking.
SPEAKER_02I'm sure I've just never been, so it'll be interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but I I hear, and again, I haven't been recently, but I hear that is it Knoxville or Nashville you're into? Nashville, right? Nashville, sorry, yes. Nashville is a lot like Austin. Oh, I'm sure. A lot of Californians there, a lot of New Yorkers there. It's it's a much more liberal city than you would expect. But more cosmopolitan for whatever that's worth. But there's also plenty of you know country music related things there.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, everybody keeps telling me go to the Bluebird Cafe.
SPEAKER_00There you go.
SPEAKER_02We'll see. We'll see what I've got time for. It's a work trip, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you're there for a week?
SPEAKER_02Yep. I fly in Monday, fly back Friday.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so hopefully you got time, then next Thursday we could just record something in your hotel.
SPEAKER_02Keep you apprised.
SPEAKER_00We'll see how it goes. Let's see if there's anything else that I wanted to cover. Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_01Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. Scrolling.
SPEAKER_02They're the flock camera stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. College station
Flock Cameras And Warrantless Tracking
SPEAKER_02just uh yeah, college station just voted to renew theirs.
SPEAKER_00That's insane, dude.
SPEAKER_02I all but one motherfucker on the city council voted against it. Another one voted against it, but said would consider an alternative. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm sweeping the entire slate. Like I don't if you're running if you're opposed, you're I'm voting against you. I don't care what the other person thinks.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And that that's the thing, is it's like there's nothing inherently wrong with flock cameras. It's the fact that humans have access to the data. That's the problem. Because if it was purely a database exists, yeah. But but it's if it wasn't under human control, I think it'd be fine.
SPEAKER_02I I don't agree because I think that that data is just dangerous to have.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's but it again, it's only dangerous if humans have access to it. Flock, in and of itself, even if it has data, isn't they can't do anything.
SPEAKER_02Here's the thing. If the flock system was set up in such a way that, hey, here is a list of license plates that we have a warrant for you to track, yeah, cool. Disregard all others, right? Fine. Well, that's you have a warrant to track this list of licenses plates. Theoretically, how it works, it's the same. No, no, it captures and stores historical data on all movement, yeah. And then when you query it without a warrant, it then produces the data out of the data set it's still.
SPEAKER_00But again, that's the human issue that I'm talking about. Like the fact that recording videos of cars, but it's also not just cars, it's also people walking, which I've got a little more of a problem with. But or as we've seen in some of these videos, a literal flock camera looking inside the windows. Like, really? You're look you're looking through the fucking window. But it's the idea that you're not just recording video, which can then later be analyzed once a warrant's obstacle. Which incidentally is what the NSA was doing with all phone calls. Yes, and you should not be able to start calls and then only look at them if there's a an actual warrant out.
SPEAKER_02You cannot start observation until you get a warrant. Otherwise, it is just fucking wrong.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I I look, I can even make an argument for that, but I think it's a really hard argument to argue against because it it's or argue for, because inherently there is nothing different about Flock than there simply being 10,000 times more cops on every corner.
SPEAKER_02Well, there is because Flock basically shares a consciousness, the cops don't.
SPEAKER_00They don't have a consciousness, they don't have a soul.
SPEAKER_02Right, but my point is there is simultaneously sharing information. Like the the cops are not, right? Even if they make the opposite each other.
SPEAKER_00Well, the cops could be, they have walkie-talkies.
SPEAKER_02They could be, but they're not going to because of human nature.
SPEAKER_00All the problems that I've seen with flock that are flock related have to do with misuse of data, not with the data itself.
SPEAKER_02Uh agreed. That's the argument, is that this is data that is going to be misused.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, then what we need to do is make the penalties much greater for misuse of that data.
SPEAKER_02Sure, you misuse flock data, you get your dick cut off. Done.
SPEAKER_00Essentially, if you if you well, I I I like the eye for an eye approach on this, dude. If you misuse flock data that results in somebody being deprived of their lights, then you get to be deprived of your rights.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think we've hit the flock stuff a lot lately, but you brought it up. Did you see the rents decline? What rent is declining rapidly?
SPEAKER_00And it's declined
Rent Drops Deportations And Market Cycles
SPEAKER_00apparently a whole lot in Austin. 21.5%. Quite a bit. Although, to be fair, it's gone up way more than 21% in the last decade.
SPEAKER_02Well, sure, but this is from the Biden era. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is all around ICE deportations. I think that's the working theory.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think that does have something to do with it. I'm not sure that represents 100% of the cause.
SPEAKER_02Well, it represents the other percentage of the cause.
SPEAKER_00I think part of it has been overpurchasing of rental properties by corporations that are now realizing they bought too much and so they're dropping prices to maintain a higher rented percentage.
SPEAKER_02Possible. But I I really hate all these doomers out there that look at Trump and say, oh, well, he has an imperfect, so fuck him. Look at what has been delivered.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's a compared to his first term, dude, he's like doing 400% better. Because remember, we were talking about this in his first term, at the end of his first term. We were talking about how like Trump talked a lot, but what did he really get done? Not a whole lot in his first term.
SPEAKER_02He's definitely talking a lot still, but less and getting a lot done.
SPEAKER_00I've never minded him talking. I just wanted some action too.
SPEAKER_02Well, you've gotten it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Did we already talk about the uh the fact that the ATF director wants to release government
Selling Post 86 Full Autos
SPEAKER_00purchased full automatic weapons to the public? No, we have not. We should. Okay.
SPEAKER_02I mean So now would be a great time.
SPEAKER_00As far as as far as ATF directors go.
SPEAKER_02I think your noise gate's letting something through.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was a video to start playing, I just turned it off. As far as ATF directors, this guy definitely the best that we've seen. So what he's basically said is that there is a two different types of purchases that the government can make. And I don't remember the exact numbers that are associated with the the provisions of those orders, but effectively one is purchasing things that are only for government use, they're government use only purchases as requisitioned, and then there are purchases that the government does that don't have that designation and are more arbitrary, but could be for the exact same item. So what you end up with is let's say M16s that the government purchases, and then one contract went through procurement, which has a for government use only stipulation, and this is all coming off legislation, like these are not decisions by ATF, this is all legislative stuff. But then, you know, they also bought like 850 Colt M16 rifles that because they had some extra money at the end of the year, and so they just bought them. Right. And he is now arguing for, and he's got a task force working on this in the ATF to figure out which of the government assets that happen to be firearms were purchased under which designation in order to then allow the ones that were not purchased for government use only to be sold to the public at large. And the reason that there's that distinction is is because of the 86 gun prohibition legislation, whatever the hell it was called. The Firearms Act of 86, whatever it was.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I I I like it. I knew some new full autos would be great.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the and this the if you watch the YouTubers out there, the the projection numbers they're talking about is in the high tens of thousands of full automatic post-1986 guns.
SPEAKER_02So that's one. Anyone who's heavily invested in fully automatics is a retirement strategy, you're fucked.
SPEAKER_00They're they're probably fucked, but also like you may be able to get a fully automatic M16 or an M1, maybe. Well, probably not, but you know, probably an M16. It's the most likely thing to get. Or an M4. You mean an M4? M4, potentially, yeah. But one of the stipulations is it has to have been produced after 86. This this little strategy only works for post-86 guns because it it effectively holds the bill's language as the you know, as written. It's going by the exact wording of the bill, which effectively only covered the guns purchased through this particular for government use only designation. And yeah, so some people are saying it could be on the low end 10,000 rifles, and on the high end it could be, you know, 85,000 rifles that he's going to be releasing to the general public. Sounds good to me. Wouldn't that be insane? Like, can you imagine? And they're still gonna be expensive. We're not talking like a thousand dollar M4. We're we're probably talking about a five to seven thousand dollar actual M4, which is so much better than what we have right now, which is a pre-86 M16 for $30,000, a pre-86 MP5 for $45,000. Guns that have had 40,000 rounds through them and are worth more than 10 times as much as they were when they were brand new. So anything to get more guns in the streets, anything to lower the price of guns, I'm all in favor of. I'm here for it. So far, so good with this ATF dude.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, he's done exceptionally well. I'm very eager to see the actual guidance that gets put out. I think they're doing the right thing by taking their time with it to an extent. But we'll see.
SPEAKER_00Well, and they have it, they it's not been offered as official guidance, but they have had very high-level people, including him, say that gun shops don't have to be afraid if they're not using Form 10 for transfers of silcers. Form 4.
SPEAKER_02Form 4.
SPEAKER_00Form 4. Yeah, you're right. If they're not using Form 4 for transfer of silencers. So at least he's given that type of personal insurance, which I probably means that will be part of the official guidance as well. That it's gonna be backdated to the actual victory in the courts to say that okay, any transfers from that day to DOJ, the DOJ informed informed Congress, I think today or yesterday, that they will not be pursuing appeal formally. Yeah, and that's been the direction from executive, apparently.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it was Trump, apparently, that said you're not going to appeal this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And Trump has never been known as a big gun guy. You know, he knows where his base lives.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Here's Heg Seth putting up your placard.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah? Total war?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. No, no, no. No fatties, no trannies, no beardos, no weirdos, no whims,
Plaques Memes And Final Shots
SPEAKER_02no radicals, just warriors.
SPEAKER_00That's oh my god. No beardos, no weirdo.
SPEAKER_02Like you you fail at so many of these changes. Oh, god. Like, no fatties, fail. Okay, you get a pass there. Beirdo, fail. Weirdo, fail.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, definitely fail the weirdo.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Radicals. I mean, like, the only one you don't fail on this list is the trannies.
SPEAKER_00It's it is funny that it's an actual plaque, too. Yes, yes. This this almost looks like an AI image, other than the fact that it was reported in a bunch of publications. Oh, come on, it's AI. No, no, no, this is real. No, did you not see it? No, yes, that's that's the exact outfit he was wearing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but he's screwing into the wrong spot. This is AI, dude.
SPEAKER_00No, it's real. I trust me, it's real, dude.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Your AI has corrupted your.
SPEAKER_00I'm telling you. Look at his nose. That's totally his nose. And on that note, Gene. Well, then, and I will say that the beardos thing just comes out of left field because, frankly, the some of the best special ops guys all have exemptions for beards.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think he's talking about quite frankly, a guy like you that's overweight at home. Most in their mother's basement. But, you know, that that gray beard type redditor mentality is, I think what he's getting at.
SPEAKER_00Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you just call me a redditor? How dare you? How dare you? I like that. That's the only thing that's offended you. I can't believe you would insult a brother like that. That that is just uncalled for behavior. Seriously, what did I ever do to you? A redditor. My god.
SPEAKER_02Didn't let me have your grok bot delete itself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's the kind of thing I would expect from you.
SPEAKER_02Before I do this, I better sanitize my input stuff. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I that still was so funny when you're flying.
SPEAKER_00It almost fucking got you. Yeah, not even close. Not even close.
SPEAKER_02It literally asked what table had I said star.stark.
SPEAKER_00No, it was asking me what table, not you. That's right. Oh. Oh, so close. All right, later. Later, uh. We're done. And then we'll let's try and do a remote next week. Sure.
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