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187 We Argue About Power Rules Privacy And Personal Responsibility
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A billion tokens in a day sounds like a joke until you do the math, watch the invoice, and realize how many decisions now depend on AI running nonstop. We start with the very practical side of modern “build mode” life: subscriptions, testing loops, and why the cost of AI tooling is becoming a real budget category instead of a novelty. From there, the conversation widens into the bigger story everyone feels but few can price correctly: what happens if the AI boom is also an AI bubble, fueled by borrowed money, datacenter expansion, and a supply chain that lives and dies by GPU demand.
We also dig into the knock-on effects of market volatility, including how NVIDIA headlines and leadership rumors can cascade into consumer pricing. If datacenter spending slows, GPU availability and memory prices could finally loosen, which would be a massive shift for gamers, builders, and anyone tired of “enterprise demand” setting the floor for every component. Along the way we talk incentives: stock options, non-competes, founder risk, and why boards and public pressure can move faster than good strategy.
Then we pivot to the operational reality most companies can’t ignore: security. When major email platforms get hit by serious vulnerabilities, it’s not just an IT headache, it’s lost time and real economic drag. Add in AI-generated apps built by people with zero security background, and the attack surface grows overnight. We wrap with a blunt, values-driven debate on personal responsibility, anonymity online, and how rules and consequences shape behavior in tech and in life.
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Mic Check And Token Spending
SPEAKER_03How are my things?
SPEAKER_01Well, hi Ben, how are you today?
SPEAKER_03Good. I didn't expect you to start the recording then. I we thought we were gonna do a mic check. Mic check. Well, you said I was a little low earlier.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh a little bit, but just you know talk louder.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Anyway, how are you, Gene?
SPEAKER_01I'm alright. I'm alright. Just you know. One day merges into the next, I pretty much wake up programming and fall asleep programming.
SPEAKER_03Fun, I suppose.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. For now. For now it is. I just burnt through a little under a billion tokens.
SPEAKER_03At what price per token?
SPEAKER_01I don't know, whatever price they are on the two hundred dollar plan.
SPEAKER_03Well, give me an idea.
SPEAKER_01So that represents about 35% of the $200 plan.
SPEAKER_03Okay. So you're really spending that much a month?
SPEAKER_01No, that's today.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm talking about that much a month for the $200 plan.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, yeah. No, I'm spending about $800 a month right now.
SPEAKER_03Okay. It seems excessive.
SPEAKER_01Oh. I mean, I'd like I'd prefer it'd be smaller, right? But I'm doing a lot of testing, a lot of, you know, not just using the butts for coding, but using the bots for testing.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um lots oh stuff. Where shall we kick it off? Should we
NVIDIA Leadership Rumors And Fallout
SPEAKER_01talk about Jensen first or what?
SPEAKER_03Sure. Four fucking days, dude. That's all it took to erase 30 years of history.
SPEAKER_01Well, I I don't think the history is erased. It certainly took that long to remove a trillion dollars worth of you know stock market valuation.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well. It's sad, but looks like he's gonna land okay.
SPEAKER_01I I think he'll be okay, but it's still a ridiculous Me Too bullshit thing. You know, he resigned, so it makes zero difference what a guy does in his personal life, whether he cheats or not, or whatever. Look at Bill Gates. Bill Gates had sex with about 180 women after getting married. Well, but why would that matter?
SPEAKER_03But the I think the last straw wasn't the even the Chinese affair, even though that potentially opens up the company to sanctions and trade restrictions and things like that. But I think it was the sleeping with the employee. That's what HR really had a problem with.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Again, what the I mean, look at what the guy does. It's just retarded. The whole thing's retarded. The whole idea of it making any difference who you sleep with is retarded.
SPEAKER_05Agreed.
SPEAKER_01Anybody ought to be able to sleep with anybody, period. I'm going back to the old libertarian uh adage.
SPEAKER_03Hey man, I don't care who you sleep with. Just Yeah. If you're consenting adults, I don't give
a
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah,
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_01And frankly, this whole idea of like, well, yeah, subordinates, you know, that's different. You can't sleep with that. Like everybody in my parents' generation, that was the number one way to get a husband. You sleep with them when you're his secretary, and then you get pregnant, and then he has to marry you. That's how it used to work. Literally for half the women in the country. Now it's, ooh, no, can't do that. That is just ridiculous. The amount of anti-natalism that is the norm in the United States workforce is half the reason that we're gonna crash and burn and turn into a third world country.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01They're doing everything they can to keep white people from having kids.
SPEAKER_03Well, you know, your queer presenting couples doing their job.
SPEAKER_01Representing what?
SPEAKER_03Your queer presenting couple is doing their job.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. You know, there's nothing queer about her, okay? There like, say what you will about the guy. Looks kind of like a twink, but the chick just looks like a conservative chick. She's got long hair, she's wearing black and white clothes, with easy access to everything.
SPEAKER_03I mean, she does not look conservative at all. She looks like a man. Totally conservative or California liberal.
SPEAKER_01No, no. You you don't even watch that show. She looks more like an Amish woman than anything else.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_01She's got that, you know, like braided hair wrapped around her head thing going on. Like the Amish do. And uh there's no uh no gay vibe from her at all.
SPEAKER_03No, just a pegging vibe.
SPEAKER_01Although she did say on the other show episode a couple episodes ago that like her allowed list is actually the same as her husband's.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01You know, like couples have a list of people that they're allowed to fuck. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the normal thing everybody does. So, like Brad Pitt or you know, somebody like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, that's no.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, ask your wife, buddy. Every chick's got a list like that, whether your husband knows about it or not. And uh, you know, a lot of couples talk about it, and they're like, look, if you ever get the opportunity to fuck that person, that's that you're allowed. Because why would you not be, because the odds are so overwhelming that you'll never get that opportunity. That if you get it, you gotta take it. So anyway. Yeah, so the and the the show that you're referring to is the what the hell are they called?
SPEAKER_03Well, regardless, Jensen's out at NVIDIA. The stock is tank. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's where we were talking about Jensen.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's the Based Something Podcast.
SPEAKER_03Anyway. Yeah, no, the AI bubble, I think, is about to pop because NVIDIA had lent a ton of money to other companies. Yeah, they didn't invested a ton of money into other companies.
SPEAKER_01There's a little bit of a circle jerk thing going on there for sure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and they they no longer have that money. And you see, they replaced him with a woman.
SPEAKER_01They absolutely replaced him with a woman. That's how it always works. Yep.
SPEAKER_02But Elon put out a job posting today that you sent that was pretty trolley for wong.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't think it was trolley. I think it was straight up, you know, hey, I'm building a chip factory. Come work over here, bud.
SPEAKER_01No, I mean it was trolley in the sense of to NVIDIA.
SPEAKER_03Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. So I I think there is a a pretty decent chance that that's where he's gonna end up. Yeah, in fact, I'll put it this way if Wong doesn't end up there, then probably it is because of his non-compete more than anything else.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01I don't think it's because he wouldn't want to work for Elon. I think he would see that as a uh very much an opportunity to you know say fuck you to the guys that fired him.
SPEAKER_03I what makes you think he won't do that?
SPEAKER_01If he's got a tight enough non-compete, then he couldn't.
SPEAKER_03I mean all these uh It I guess it depends on what state does he live in?
SPEAKER_01What states do you live in? I think he's in either California or Washington State.
SPEAKER_03Maybe in California, but and Washington, but if we if he moves to Texas, Texas is pretty right towards the.
SPEAKER_01It's different type of non-compete. It's basically your your stock options are tied to you not working anywhere other than the company. It's not a like we're gonna sue you if you go work somewhere thing. It's do you want to lose a billion dollars in stock options, more like?
SPEAKER_03Well, Elon could make him whole.
SPEAKER_01I don't know if Elon wants to. I don't know, he put out the job. We'll see. We'll see. See what happens. But I I think either way, it is one of the stupidest things to have happen. A dude being a philanderer, incidentally, while he was philandering, he grew that company to be the most valuable company in the world. If anything, everyone ought to be encouraging him to be fucking more women.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Keep keep whatever is driving him to keep driving him. And that's good for everybody. It's good for the markets, good for investors, good for everybody. Probably not good for his wife, but you know what? If his wife files for divorce and gets half the company, it's good for her too.
SPEAKER_03Well, half his money.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's what I mean. Half the company meaning half his money. Yeah, I mean, she'd be worth about half a trillion. It's not bad. She'd become the richest woman in the world.
SPEAKER_02Which is the way every richest woman in the world has become though.
SPEAKER_01God, you're such a sexist.
SPEAKER_02No, it's true.
SPEAKER_01I saw the results of a sexism test you took. It proves once for all, with no doubt, that you're the ultimate sexist.
SPEAKER_03Just absolute horseshit.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, man. I mean, I took the racism test, and I I'm not racist one bit.
SPEAKER_03Sure, because you weren't answering honestly.
SPEAKER_01I was answering exactly the way the questions were written.
SPEAKER_03Yes, yes, I'm sure you were. Yes.
SPEAKER_01I got a perfect score on that test. And not the And what was yours? 79% racist? What was it?
SPEAKER_03Hold on. Let's keep with the misogyny first. Okay. So IDR Labs.com. I took their misogyny test and I got what was it, like a 97%?
SPEAKER_0197 misogynists. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And what do you think? I mean, given that your HR told you to take that test, what do you think is gonna happen?
SPEAKER_03No, so my general racism score was 71.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you didn't hit 75% historical tweet.
SPEAKER_03Social historical was 73. Perpetual racism against foreigners, 88. And total racism is 77.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. 77.
SPEAKER_03I'm a racist.
SPEAKER_01Well, you definitely. According to that website, you're definitely a racist. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You did see the last thing I posted in our uh group chat, right?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03You should go look at that given this conversation. It'll be quite funny.
SPEAKER_01Uh AK?
SPEAKER_03Down one.
SPEAKER_01Uh some black dude sitting in a truck?
SPEAKER_03No, play it.
SPEAKER_01I'm not gonna play it. We're recording now, dude. I'll do my watching later.
SPEAKER_03It's fucking hilarious. It's a black guy.
SPEAKER_01Is it gonna be hilarious to people that are not hearing it and then not seeing it?
SPEAKER_03I'm telling. I wanted your reaction to it, but it's a black guy driving a combine picking cotton.
SPEAKER_01Oh, a cotton picker.
SPEAKER_03We have come full circle. Nature is healing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I wonder what whose farm he's doing that for.
SPEAKER_03Right? Can't be his.
SPEAKER_01What? Can't be his. What what whoa whoa whoa whoa. Mr. Racist there. So he's where he's got a hat on. What does it say? Bricks? Bricks?
SPEAKER_03But anyway, I just thought it was funny because he's just casually doing this. And yeah, it was it was comic gold.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's got a uniform on, so you could tell which farm he works for. And uh I don't I guess he's got his brand hidden. I don't see it.
Internet Tests And Bad Incentives
SPEAKER_03Well, Senator Thune is dismissing the Senate for a three-day weekend.
SPEAKER_01Well, of course. What else would they possibly want to do given that they have a month left to live?
SPEAKER_03Approve judges like crazy?
SPEAKER_01Well, why would the the Dem Republicans want that?
SPEAKER_03Especially Thune. The fact that they re-elected Thune as minority leadership. Uh-oh. PBR incoming.
SPEAKER_01Dr. Pepper cream soda.
SPEAKER_03Oh, God, nasty.
SPEAKER_01Mmm.
SPEAKER_03Cream soda? Ugh. Dr. Pepper. Ugh.
SPEAKER_01Dr. Pepper. What the hell? You're not a Texan unless you like Dr. Pepper.
SPEAKER_03I like Dublin Dr. Pepper, but it's too sweet. Dr. Pepper's just too sweet.
SPEAKER_01That's why you drink the zero sugar one.
SPEAKER_03No, that's why I go with the actual cane sugar one.
SPEAKER_01That's too sweet.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I just I've never been a big fan of Dr. Pepper. But I'm not a big fan of those sodas, so.
SPEAKER_00Ah, okay.
SPEAKER_03That's why I don't have cavities, Gene.
SPEAKER_01Because you don't drink sodas.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_03I don't drink sweet stuff. I don't I don't drink I don't put sugar in my coffee, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so you don't have a sweet tooth.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You like the uh the spicy?
SPEAKER_03Sour. Sour and spicy, yes.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I picked up some really tasty sauerkraut at Costco. Okay, cool. It's it's just totally plain. All there is there is cabbage, white cabbage. It's it's I don't know, it it it doesn't have that like stereotypical sauerkraut taste. It's a little crisper. Pretty good stuff. Well did I tell you I rejoined Costco after a decade?
SPEAKER_03Real sauerkraut from Germany is delicious.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you do. Not as good as Russian stuff, but yeah.
SPEAKER_03Germans invented it.
SPEAKER_01No, hardly. Russians invented it.
SPEAKER_03Did I uh Russians invented everything?
SPEAKER_01Well, not everything, but just some things like vodka, sauerkraut, television, and the internet. Did I tell you I uh I restarted my Costco membership?
SPEAKER_03No, you didn't.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So haven't been in a Costco in ten years, came back. I uh I mostly uh so that I can buy a pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01So I had to rejoin for that.
SPEAKER_03And I don't think you had to rejoin for that.
SPEAKER_01Well, it's the only place that has the really big pumpkin pies. So I gotta I gotta bring dessert for a hundred people, I guess.
SPEAKER_03So god damn it. I don't think it's gonna be that many people.
SPEAKER_01Well, we'll see. Anyway, I looked, I walked around, looked at some prices. So the Macs are all about a hundred bucks off.
SPEAKER_03Which is because they just raised the prices, which is not bad.
SPEAKER_01Uh they did just raise prices, yeah, but they're a hundred bucks off there. Not much in the way of PCs or in the way of laptop PCs that are they're all very cheesy, nothing good on the PC laptop side. They do have some decent gaming PCs, but I think they're kind of overpriced like everything else. They've got one for three and a half thousand dollars that comes with 5080. Nice, and you know, the 5080's only got 16 gigs in there, so you're not really half the memory of the 5090, which used to come in PCs that were sold for that much. So, and it's only got 32 gigs of RAM, so not a good deal for sure. A lot of the things that are just sort of regular consumables, like paper towels and things, look like they're about 35 to 40 percent more expensive than the last time I went to Costco. No, the only thing that seems way cheaper are TVs. You can get like a hundred-inch TV for 1500 bucks now. You get 75 inch TV for about a hundred bucks. So those things are super cheap. They're usually LG branded, but there's a LG is making stuff cheap for a reason right now. Yeah, they're super cheap, like unbelievably cheap for what you get.
SPEAKER_03You've watched Gamers Nexus review on LG and how they're spying on you.
SPEAKER_01They're all spying on you. I mean, it's been around forever.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but LG is probably the worst.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. That's why I only buy LG monitors, not TVs. Monitors don't spy on you. Problem is the monitors are also a lot more expensive.
SPEAKER_03They are, and it makes zero sense.
SPEAKER_01They're a thousand bucks. Where the comparable size TV is a hundred. So I guess that's how much they make on you when they sell you a TV, is about a hundred bucks. Or uh, sorry, a thousand bucks.
SPEAKER_03Maybe.
SPEAKER_01In reselling your demographics and things.
SPEAKER_03Battlehawk Armory is making my life hard.
SPEAKER_01Who's that?
SPEAKER_03Battlehawk Armory. They're up in Iowa. The they've always got a lot of good deals.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03Posted it in the it's only a daily deal, so we won't post the link because it'll go away. Right. Beretta 92 FS in OD green from from $849 down to $559 plus $100 Beretta
Costco Prices TVs And Data Tracking
SPEAKER_03rebate, so it takes it down to $4.99.
SPEAKER_01That's never been sold that cheap.
SPEAKER_03No shit. Which is why I'm going. Oh.
SPEAKER_01And I you gotta agree that green's the ugliest color, but still, why is that so cheap? I don't know, but I kind of like it. I think it looks good. Well, of course you like it, but I didn't even know they made them an OD green.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01And that's with a threaded barrel.
SPEAKER_03Yep, with a threaded barrel.
SPEAKER_01Or $4.99.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01That's a thousand dollar gun.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Wonder if you could sand the OD green off of it. That might be worthwhile to get.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you could just re-Seracode it, dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That is a very good price on that gun.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, making my life hard. I'm already spending enough on guns right now.
SPEAKER_01I would. Man, you put a silence thread on that thing, you'd be. Well, they're legal? What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, don't make me want to do it more.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'll keep that in mind when I think about that $5,000 graphics card that you made me buy.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That I'm telling you to return because an NVIDIA graphics card is going to get cheap here in a second.
SPEAKER_01I don't know if they're going to be cheap. I'll see. Yeah. I'm it might be really hard to get.
SPEAKER_03I'm already looking at yeah, because they're going to stop production. I'm already looking at nine mil suppressors.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03What if you find the Ruger PCC that I have with a shooting subsonics with that 16-inch barrel and a suppressor? Oh my god, that would be awesome.
SPEAKER_01You know, I like the Huxworks ones. You should look at those.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know why you're so up on the Huxworks. I really like them. bands that are cheaper and better.
SPEAKER_01Don't know about that.
SPEAKER_03Based off a
SPEAKER_01I've I've read a bunch of reviews. The Hucks works are awesome.
SPEAKER_03They they were, but now they're not the only flow-through suppressor.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't know. That's why I'm not buying a suppressor, because the ones I want are not cheap.
SPEAKER_03Trust me, I know.
SPEAKER_01Well, I know you know. I've been bitching about it forever.
SPEAKER_03Well, and I I bought I bought a cheap suppressor, but I also bought a nice one.
SPEAKER_00Like there, there's a lot. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Well, you know this. We've talked about it. I just know you didn't want to out me on the show without me doing it.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Yeah, no, I think, you know, if I was not an unemployed bum right now, I would be totally doing the same thing.
SPEAKER_03Well, and you know, I actually ordered mine before the election and post-election. God damn, am I happy that I did?
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's the other thing. They might be hard to get at this point.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they're selling out like crazy.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's it's a bagpipes? Yeah, bagpipes. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're um. There's definitely some cheap ones out there, but I just I don't, I don't know. I don't really want to spend the money because inevitably, if I buy a cheap one, it's gonna, I'm gonna end up replacing it with a more expensive one later anyway.
SPEAKER_03Well, you put your more expensive one on your nice gun, and then on the lesser gun, you put a lesser suppressor. Yeah, it's like a scope. You don't put a you know, you don't put a a Navorsky scope on a hundred dollar bolt gun, you know?
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_01You know, putting glass in there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Except I don't think you spend what you spend on the gun. Like my Tavour is not getting a multi-thousand dollar can, you know.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, yeah, if if you get a $2,000 gun, you spend $1,500 on a can and you you spend two grand on the sights. The scope.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, so I picked up some 308 suppressors and then you spend another five grand on night vision and another five to ten grand on thermals, and you're you're all set.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. Ready for the incoming Civil War.
SPEAKER_01Well, I tell you, the odds of that are getting higher and higher, aren't they?
SPEAKER_03Well, so you know, we have a mutual friend who owns a gun store, and I have another guy that I order ammo from all the time. Both of them are telling me that ammo sales had have not been this high since COVID.
SPEAKER_01I believe it. Yeah. Yeah, but that you know, it is very typical. Every time that there's a Democrat that gets into the White House, the the sales of ammo just shoot way up. And and anyone that sells ammo will tell you that the best marketing for them is always getting a Democrat in the White House.
SPEAKER_03Well, we don't have a Democrat in the White House yet. So thankfully.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah,
Gun Deals Suppressors And Shortages
SPEAKER_01fair enough. But I mean, I think a lot of people are kind of feeling like like this blue wave was once in their lifetime kind of thing.
SPEAKER_03I hope. I hope. Like I I I I just I I I really want to see a full audit. I want to see what happened and if it actually happened, fine. But I just don't know how in a how we saw a presidential level turnout for the Democrats.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_0320 million voters over the uh over the last midterm nationwide.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Almost two million here in Texas that all went Democrat. Like that just.
unknownbe able to do that.
SPEAKER_01So one is adding votes, The other way is subtracting votes. And I I haven't seen anything that looks at voters vote suppression. And essentially, how do you know when you want to vote that your vote didn't get thrown out?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you don't know.
SPEAKER_03That's why we need a public voter roll. So we do voted for him.
SPEAKER_01I agree.
SPEAKER_05That is true.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. No, the the election is very frustrating. Did you see the that Stephen A. Smith sat down for an interview with Trump?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03It's worth watching. It's worth watching.
SPEAKER_01That's that black dude?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's mainly a ESPN guy, but he did a good job. Yeah. You know, he's been pretty critical of Trump, but Trump's invited him to dinner and they've they've gotten along fairly well.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Well, Trump's a friendly guy.
SPEAKER_01I don't know anybody that like, you know, had bad things to say about him after going there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. The Democrats here in Texas are already trying to push gun confiscation.
SPEAKER_01I think there's what, 12 bills now?
SPEAKER_03No, for anti-gun bills. Anti-gun bills now, yep. No, there's over 20.
SPEAKER_01Over 20 now. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Pre-filed.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03And some of them even include red flag laws with confiscation, things like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And you know, all I can say is there's a there was a cartoon on X earlier this week with Cowboy standing out there holding his gun saying, Come and take it. And then, you know, he's sitting down and he's depressed, and they it says, they came and took it.
SPEAKER_01Yep. And I I think that a lot of that was absolutely going to be happening because a lot of people that like to talk loud, it will not fall through at all. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm just blow bloviating. Yeah, I'm just bloviating. There's no there's no risk in trying to disarm me.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm just I'm not I'm I don't care about you. I'm just talking about, you know, there's so many people on X, you you watch them, you know, getting very active as long as it's a fake name on X. You know, it's like the usual keyboard warrior stuff. Like people are very happy to be very aggressive online, and then when somebody shows up at their house, all of a sudden not so aggressive. And we've seen that over and over and over. And this this has always been my argument against the anonymous internet, which a lot of people are all very into. Internet, you know, I want my anonymity of the internet. I just I I don't want to say you I want to force people to not be anonymous, but I will say I mostly want to deal with people who are not anonymous, which is why I've always liked LinkedIn. Because good luck being as aggressive on LinkedIn as you are on other platforms ain't gonna happen. People know that everybody on LinkedIn knows where you currently work. So they tend to be more polite. You know, a non-anonymous internet is kind of like a town where everyone has a gun.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, an armed society is a place.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And and so is a non-anonymous society. Anonymity breeds bad behavior.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but the problem I have with that is we have too many shitty laws and too much of shitty culture right now.
SPEAKER_01Well, fair enough. Not gonna argue with that. It's just a it's two different issues. Then and the fact that people have allowed politicians to do one now becomes an excuse for the other. Like, well, we we voted shitty for a bunch of bad politicians that created shitty laws, and now the only way to get around the bad laws is to wear a mask when I do things that aren't legal. Okay, well, how about we fix the laws and then you don't have to wear a mask?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think again, I would if I were a lawmaker in the state of Texas, which I encourage you to run. I would I would propose a law that said if 10% of the society is convicted of that crime, it is no longer a crime.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. And there oughtn't there should be no such thing as a no-fault divorce either.
SPEAKER_03Agreed. And no fucking 50-50 community property state bullshit.
SPEAKER_01No, no, everybody leaves with what money they make.
SPEAKER_03Man, are brought into the relationship.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Mm-hmm. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03No, I think bad for Ken Paxton, dude.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03He fended he just finalized his divorce ten days after getting his ass kicked.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_03Like, can you imagine? Not only did I quote unquote lose to Talafreco, but now my balls are getting crushed here too.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, it's sad, but I you know, I I liked them as the attorney general. I think he was very good. He definitely stopped up for Texas. He's not photohygienic. Or photogenic.
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_01And that's if you allow women to vote, which we currently do, you will greatly reduce the chance of your candidate winning if they're not photogenic. You're not gonna get female votes with somebody that looks like Ken Paxton. And this is what was a shock to me with the chick that beat Brandon Herrera. Because she looks like Ken Paxton in a lot of ways.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01The female version thereof.
SPEAKER_03She's worse, dude. First of all, she's gotta be 300 pounds.
SPEAKER_01Oh, she's over 300 pounds guaranteed. But you know, she doesn't have a lazy eye at least. But she looks like she's and and they even saw this in her campaign. She spent like six thousand dollars on snacks for the campaign.
SPEAKER_03On cookies and stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Which I mean, say what you will, but I wonder if any staffer even got one.
SPEAKER_01Right. Oh God. Yeah, and I look, I get it. It's hard to lose weight. I'm fully understand that. Been trying to do that my entire life.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, you and her have similar physiques.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. But you also have to understand that uh that does impact the way that you're perceived by other people, and you had better be one hell of a good sales guy, persuasive, and know how to have a silver tongue when you talk to counterbalance your negative assets. And she was putting her foot in her mouth the entire time she was debating Brandon. I mean, she came across as literally an a dumbo.
Elections Anonymity And Accountability
SPEAKER_01And I don't understand how that works, and then I I heard from somebody that was talking to a buddy of theirs, a male, that lives in that in Brandon's district. And I asked him, you know, do you vote for Brandon? He says, hell no. What do you mean, hell no? Well, I vote Democrat. Why? This is a male in his you know late 20s. Because I want to be able to smoke my pot in Texas.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01And this guy's like, What did you not know that Brandon supports legalization? Yeah, legalization of marijuana, and the other chick literally said nothing about it and is likely to not support it. And the other and the the guy he's talking to is like, what? No, nobody told me. Like, people are so stupid that they they were waiting for somebody to tell them what to do and who to vote for. And here's a guy that was a one-issue voter that he got wrong, that he got the nominee wrong. Like, that doesn't require any cheating to happen. It just requires stupid people. Dumb voters.
SPEAKER_03Yes, indeed. Got some feedback on the last show.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, before we do that, so as far as marijuana, I uh I think here's what I would be in support of. Legalize marijuana, and for anyone that's using marijuana or alcohol, or any other what would you what category are those things? Adult drugs, right? Things that have an age limit.
SPEAKER_03Something that can compromise you, yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exclude those people for their life from receiving welfare.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01How's that? Is that fair?
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_01So you can fuck yourself up all you want, as long as you're not gonna go to the gummit.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I I drink.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, most I mean, most Americans drink. It's a minority of us that don't. But that's what I'm saying is like I see no problem with drinking or smoking pot, or frankly, even doing harder drugs. As long as you sign off your waiver of rights to government support.
SPEAKER_03And that would include government health care.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03It has to. And you know, here's the thing I am all for people owning their bodies and doing whatever fucking drug they want to do. You own your body, do it. And people are like, oh, well, what about the repercussions? That's nobody's business. Right. If you like, this is why I don't understand DUI laws. What the fuck does it matter that you are driving drunk?
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_03You hurt someone. If you hurt someone, it's your fault no matter what. What difference does it make? Like you're responsible. So if you kill someone because you were drunk and did something stupid, it doesn't matter that you were drunk. It matters that you killed someone and were stupid. Like, fuck.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, or seatbelt laws. That's the stupidest one of seatbelt laws. Oh, absolutely. You can give somebody a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt in their own damn car.
SPEAKER_03Right. If I want to endanger my own life, that's fine. And if I want to endanger my kids' lives by not making them do that, that's my responsibility.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you're also accepting getting sued for homicide if your kid gets killed because they weren't seatbelted in.
unknownSure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. As long as it all bounces out. It's just shifting the responsibility to adults. You can't both not have responsibility and be able to do all these things that could harm you. You gotta have one with the other.
SPEAKER_03Well, I I am all for personal responsibility. Yeah. And restoring that so that you know, restoring that so that there's less of this fuck around culture and a lot more find out. Yep.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, good. Apparently my charqueta story got a few chuckles.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you did?
SPEAKER_03Huh?
SPEAKER_01Who got chuckles? What?
SPEAKER_03My charqueta story. My Spanish story.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. Oh, you're talking about the last episode.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, it's a funny story. It should get a few chuckles.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So would you hear back on X or some? How did somebody let you know?
SPEAKER_03Oh, just a friend that listens.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. Wait, you have friends?
SPEAKER_03Yes, Gene. Oh, yeah. Yes, I have friends.
SPEAKER_01Just check. So our favorite laureate chick is gonna be on Washington Gun Review.
SPEAKER_03Washington Gun Law, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I like that guy. I I wish he was here too. My lawyer. You mean my lawyer? Yes.
SPEAKER_02My lawyer is gonna be on Washington Gun Law.
SPEAKER_01Your lawyer, sure.
SPEAKER_02She's one of them on the retainers.
SPEAKER_01She's gonna request the one with the boobies, huh? Yes, we're gonna have a lawyer sign to Can I have the one with the boobies, please?
SPEAKER_03I mean, if you're gonna have to spend that many hours after a self-defense shooting, come on. Might as well make it.
SPEAKER_01Might as well. Absolutely. Yeah. No, I I liked her. I've liked her ever since I first saw her many, many years and several kids earlier on YouTube, where the boobies were not nearly this big.
SPEAKER_02But she's had a few kids since then.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she's had two kids that I know of, at least. It's kind of funny when you know how many kids a YouTuber has without them telling you. Not a stalker, just observant. But anyway. Yeah, and I yeah, at some point I need to sign up. I I need to I need to have a few things that I need to spend some money on.
SPEAKER_03What I thought was so cool is the bearded dude, I can't remember his name right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually called me. Yeah, welcome me and talk to me about it. And if you look at the way theirs is written, they don't have a lot of the BS of the others. They are true believers. This is what they do. I think it's uh I think it's I I trust them with that more than others.
SPEAKER_01No, it it is a very good law firm. They've been extremely involved in Texas politics. They know what all the laws are.
SPEAKER_03Parts of the constitutional carry bills.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but the only guy that I would also see as on the same level as
Legal Coverage And YouTube Lawsuits
SPEAKER_01them for you know legal insurance is what's the show he runs? It's James, uh James something. He does he does all the gun testing shit as well. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know what I'm talking about. TFTB. Yeah, yeah. TFTB. Yep, yep. TFTV. So he is the their lawyer for Louisiana.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01And I don't know if he's the only one, but he's certainly one of the lawyers for Louisiana. So I I totally would trust him because that guy, he's he's got the right combo. You know, a lawyer that spends half his time shooting.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Which speaking of lawyers, you know how deep I got into the whole bricks and minifigs thing when that was popping. So episode four just came out, which is very interesting because it's it kind of now tracks back over the months since his original video came out and talks about all the stuff that's been happening. And there's like three YouTube lawyers that are part of his video now, which is hilarious. Because he became a very popular topic for them for all the YouTube legal channels, and then he actually started reaching out to a lot of them and talking to them. So a lot of people think, well, Reckless Ben's an idiot, he's doing all this shit wrong. Where in reality, if you start looking at what he's doing while acting like a goofball, while being you know very doofy, it's actually all very strategically planned behavior. And every every week you will you see the videos about the case showing just how tighter the noose is getting wrapped around bricks and minifigs. Because they keep. Reacting very aggressively, but every time they do that, they pull the noose tighter and tighter. So right in this last video, you basically just said, you know, I'm gonna end up owning that company. Which he well might.
SPEAKER_03Well, I didn't he buy at Bricks and Minnie Figs location?
SPEAKER_01Several, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So yep. But you know, they're suing those locations for illegal transfer of you know property and shit. Which is just a whole lot of people. They're still acting very, very legally aggressively, and somebody got a hold of their like what what state is that?
SPEAKER_03Uh Utah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Ever hear of the Mormon mafia?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they're it's literally right there. That's a great example of it. Where everybody's like, you know, they all have church connections and they just let the church friends do whatever the fuck they want. These guys, uh, somebody leaked their financial statements. There's all kinds of leaks happening right now. And it looks like they've spent about one and a half million on legal fees in the last three months.
SPEAKER_03What's their revenue?
SPEAKER_01So remember, this is a company that doesn't actually sell Legos, it's a company that sells franchises.
SPEAKER_03Franchises, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So their yearly revenue is like 18 million.
SPEAKER_02That's a problem.
SPEAKER_01And I think they're not even halfway through this lawsuit stuff. They're gonna end up having like a three to five million dollar legal bill, not including what they end up losing at, which will be damages that include the other side's legal fees. And there's an awful lot of evidence now demonstrating that they lied. Like they lied to the police, they lied to the judge, they lied in their affidavits, they lied in a whole bunch of places. It's all gonna catch up to them in the end.
SPEAKER_03And to all my Mormon friends, I'm sorry, but a Mormon lying? What? God.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, go take the Mormon test on that website, see where you're um dum dum dum dum. Everybody knows that Mormons don't lie. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03By the way, did you see that uh SpaceX's stock went way up?
SPEAKER_01Did I I think I posted it to where you saw it?
SPEAKER_03Oh, maybe. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, it's exactly the inverse of NVIDIA stock.
SPEAKER_03Well, the everybody's bailing from NVIDIA and saying, like, yes, get in, Elon. Get in.
SPEAKER_01Dude, I got out of NVIDIA at 239 because it felt like they were getting a little overpriced. Right now they're at 166. And I don't think the drop has stopped yet. It'll keep dropping.
SPEAKER_03No, I don't think so either.
SPEAKER_01And meanwhile, Tesla's at 400.
SPEAKER_03Oh, dude, did you see what Elon's doing regarding the Cybertruck?
SPEAKER_01Well, didn't he stop making it or something?
SPEAKER_03He is stopping production way early. Yeah, yeah. And he made the plan was to have that factory convert over to cyber cabs.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03Because they think that's going to be a more profitable thing.
SPEAKER_00Probably.
SPEAKER_03But instead now he's threatening Hina Hosa with closing it.
SPEAKER_01Ah, hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could well just shut it down and open it up in Florida.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, that's the thing. It's somewhat an empty threat because, as I told you the other day, people have to understand the Democrats can't be threatened with things like, well, I'm going to take my business out of here because they don't care. They don't care if the state goes to shit. They don't care if the tax base drops. They don't care about anything that the Republicans think they should care about. Like, you can use that argument against a Republican. Can't use it against the Democrat because to the Democrats, like, what do I give a shit? I don't care. Take your factory and take your people and take your tax base. I don't care.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's gonna suck for her when the tax.
SPEAKER_01How many years have people been saying they're leaving New York? Trump said it before him, Rush Limbaugh said it. You know, a whole bunch of people have left New York, New York City and New York State, to move their companies to other places. The NRA moved from New York to Texas. You know, all these people have left New York. It's never made New Yorkers think that maybe they're making a mistake voting for Democrats. They're all in. They're all in. They don't care about things like this is gonna cost you money. Same thing with California. Look at how much money it's costing California to have been supporting Democrats for 20 years. They don't care, they keep electing them. You can't win an argument with a stupid person.
SPEAKER_03Before we move off, Elon, did you see what Starship 42 got named? No. Don't panic.
SPEAKER_01Oh, really? Nice. Nice.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So, you know, a it'd be pretty bad if that one blows up.
SPEAKER_03Well, and it could be the first one caught by the tower.
SPEAKER_01That would be cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But that's a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, obviously. Because it's 40. What's the answer to the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 42.
SPEAKER_03Always have your towel, Gene.
SPEAKER_01A classic book. I do. I always have I'm literally right now. A towel is right next to me. I'm never more than 20 feet away from a towel.
SPEAKER_03Not that towel. Not that towel.
SPEAKER_01I have a towel by me at all times, Ben. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's an oversized towel. Huge. A huge towel.
SPEAKER_03And rather stiff.
SPEAKER_01Well, only after taking it out of the dryer. I mean, it's not stiff any other time, but rather flaccid, I'd say. But anyway, what are you talking about?
SPEAKER_03No, just I love that the he named Starship 42. Yeah. Don't panic. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, he he has a habit of naming shit for books or stories or authors. He likes that. It's almost like he'd read something at some point in his life.
SPEAKER_03Which, by the way, you gotta catch up on the Bobiverse, dude.
SPEAKER_01I'm in the middle of it right now. I'm literally at
Gemini Fable And AI Capability Leaps
SPEAKER_01the 50% mark.
SPEAKER_03It's good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's good. You saying that isn't really doing anything. It's I told you my problem is I fall asleep too too quickly now.
SPEAKER_03Set a uh timer.
SPEAKER_01Set a timer for falling asleep?
SPEAKER_03No, I set a timer for like 15 minutes. And if it stops playing while I'm still awake, I just hit play and set another timer.
SPEAKER_05Oh, really?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Hmm.
SPEAKER_03So that way it doesn't just keep playing while I'm asleep.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, I did start listening to it earlier yesterday, which is how I got to the 50% mark. So I actually listened for a couple hours yesterday. But you know, I like there were points in time where I would start listening to a book at you know 10 p.m. and I just wouldn't sleep the whole night because the book was so good. And so I would like get to 8 a.m. and I finished the book.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And that's not happening anymore.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'm glad you're getting some sleep.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I got like nine hours. Not last night, but the night before that looked like it was nine hours. Nine hours was only two times waking up.
SPEAKER_03That is far more than me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right? I mean, that's way more than I used to get. I used to like get about five hours of about six times waking up. So it's kind of crazy that like putting oxygen into your body might help you sleep better. Weird.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. My problem is a part of my body needs oxygen.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, maybe you ought to just lay off on the calories and just like turn off your engine, as it were, get your mitochondria to stop working.
SPEAKER_03Why? I I'm not following you.
SPEAKER_01So that your your body is too tired to do anything. Oh, no. Well, and actually, that is a good question. Have you tried altering your food intake?
SPEAKER_03I mean, more diet really hasn't changed.
SPEAKER_01You you may just for this, just for uh, you know, a scientific purpose want to try and radically change your eating style and then see if that has any effects on other body parts.
SPEAKER_03Maybe.
SPEAKER_01You know, either that or I'm sure our buddy Alan would have all kinds of things you can try.
SPEAKER_03Actually, I even considered it, and he consulted his his peptide guru, and there's like nothing, no research, nothing's gone down. Because it's so rare. That's the thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's like it's it's like you do not want to have a problem that is interesting to doctors.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Let me think. So as far as AI shit, obviously the whole NVIDIA thing has been dominating the news. But there has been some other things.
SPEAKER_03So well, I think the economic ripples of this area.
SPEAKER_01It's gonna be big. Yeah, I I think it will be. But on the heels of the anthropic release of Fable 5.2, Google has now released their their full version of Gemini 4 across the board to everybody, which I've had early access to and played around with it. It's pretty good. I think it's probably better than ChatGPT's latest version, the 6.1, 6.2, whatever it is. I would prefer it over. It does more. It's not as fast as Grok, but it is faster than Anthropic. But Enthropic now with Fable 5.2 just blew everything out of the water. Like it's literally on the next generation AI from everybody else. Nobody else's AI touches it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And there's people literally every day showing videos of new things that now it can do that it previous versions could not, and nobody else's AI could. Like it can do claymation stop motion shit for you by itself without any plugins. Just crazy. And and because everything it does is by writing code. So it literally writes code to do claymation. Isn't that nuts? Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yes, it seems excessive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but it works. Yeah. And then the biggest thing they did was they they had it write a brand new operating system from scratch. Which, you know, writing a new operating system is usually an endeavor that takes many, many, many months, sometimes years. And it did it in two weeks. Like a fully functioning operating system that never existed before.
SPEAKER_03But I mean define fully functioning operating system. We've had a few iterations over the years.
SPEAKER_01Well, fully functioning in the sense that it it boots on bare metal, it can run software, including a web browser. It has the all the networking stack, it has a UI. You know, I mean, I'm there's tons of things that I'm not saying right now that are part of what would be considered normal operating. It's it's a new standalone operating system, not based on anything. Not based on Linux, not based on Windows, not based on anything existing. I'd say that's pretty damn good for a couple weeks' worth of work.
SPEAKER_00Okay, sure.
SPEAKER_01So no one else's AI has done that. Let's put it that way. And I'm sure that as AI is improved, this will just simply become part of a standard test of AI capabilities, is how long it takes it to execute on the same thing. And over time we'll probably see the time start shrinking as well. But this is, at least for now, the first and only AI that's actually done this.
SPEAKER_03Well, there's no doubt that AI capabilities are getting better. But again. I don't know if it's going to I don't know if it's yeah I don't believe in the singularity and it's just gonna take over. I just don't think we're gonna get there. Because if the AI isn't feeding off of humans for its resources, if it starts feeding off itself, you're going to, I would say, see a degenerative cycle in the training models. Now transferring trained data over to a new model that where you've added some additional, you might be able to make that copy of a copy of a copy a little uh higher fidelity because you're not copying everything. But you know.
SPEAKER_01I mean, we're literally anything you do on a cloud-based AI, unless you have an enterprise account, is training the next model.
SPEAKER_06Sure.
SPEAKER_01So there is continuous ongoing training. The more people use AI, the more training is gonna go into the next model. And the the self-training that they're talking about is really reinforcement training. It's repeating shit many, many times with slight variations in order to really fine-tune the model, not training something for the first time that's never been put into model at all. So that's one thing. The other thing, and we talked about this, I think, either last week or the week before, that to me is way more exciting is the fact that now they've done proofs, tests of AI bypassing the whole learning reinforcement model, or the the that whole structure. I don't know what to call it, it's not a model, but like that whole process. Process is the best word, which takes thousands of GPUs, tens of thousands of GPUs, and many, many repetitive cycles. They've now gotten an AI to essentially bypass that and just write the memory directly into another AI's memory.
SPEAKER_03Right. That's what I was saying about copying some of the data.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but it's not copying, dude. It's it well, it is copying, but it's copying and adding new data. So it's it's not it's not just a replication of one-to-one, it's a replication with improvement. So if the old system could identify a particular type of like what does a red light look like? You know, we've seen all of those prove you're human things, right? And let's say the old systems can guess that correctly 75% of the time. When they do that memory transfer procedure, not training, but actual transfer, they can improve that to 99% at the same time. Without doing any additional training whatsoever. That's the crazy part.
SPEAKER_03In theory, we'll see. No, they've done it.
SPEAKER_01There's a paper on it, they've literally done it. It's not a theory. It is practice.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Do you know how much replication problems there are for academic papers?
SPEAKER_01What do you mean?
SPEAKER_03Like we have a replication issue in this country. We are putting forward PhDs and people doing this research. Oh, yeah. And they're never cited. They're never there's stuff can't be replicated. There's there's lots of problems here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, that's that's fair. I don't I don't think that this particular paper is a fake. I think it's real. I can't remember what university did it, but it was one of the big ones. And obviously, everyone is going to be doing this test now because if this can be successfully done on a large scale, because remember, the models that they're doing for this test are little bitty test models. You know, they're they're like 500,000 parameters. They're not a trillion parameters, which is what Grok is, or an undisclosed amount of parameters, like you know, Claude is. So they're doing this on small models so you can watch exactly how it happens, and it's both a copy and an improvement at the same time, or at least done by the same machine, the same AI is first copying and then improving. But it's all happening in just a tiny sliver of time compared to what the traditional reinforcement training would be doing, which is you know, showing over and over and over examples of this so that the weights can actually get boosted to higher and higher levels to provide the correct answer when they're when you're running the problem through. So it it to me, this is like a major, major probably assuming assuming that they can replicate it at scale, is gonna be one of the most the biggest advances in AI since the beginning of AI. If it works, it works. It works, they just have to do it on a bigger scale. And the other thing about it is this will also make an impact in neuroscience because they're gonna start applying the same mechanism to human brains.
SPEAKER_03Oh, being able to copy engrams. Yeah, engrams.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Cyberpunk is real.
SPEAKER_03Better Bubba verses.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, they're all real. That's right. They're all real.
SPEAKER_03So Ukraine and Russia just agreed to the largest prisoner transfer.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they do
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SPEAKER_01that about every year or so. So it seems like it happens about once a year.
SPEAKER_03You know, are we looking at an end of hostilities here?
SPEAKER_01Well, it depends. America is gonna stop paying for it. Well, still keys aren't gonna end until that ends.
SPEAKER_03up throttled more and more and more according to What's his face?
SPEAKER_01Zonsky.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, he's still doing his big trips all over Europe, begging for money. It's he's such a shyster man. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Agreed.
SPEAKER_01And he's gonna want to find some place where nobody can touch him when this is all done, because there's gonna be so many things that come out about his term in office and all the illegal shit that happened in Ukraine as a result of his decisions. That would be shocked when this singing is all over, that there isn't a a court looking to sentence him to death.
SPEAKER_04In Ukraine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_01Just looking at a funny thing that Mr.
SPEAKER_03Rickard. All right. Well, anyway. The uh what the people need to realize how much progress has been made. With AI? No, no God Jesus Christ. U and AI. You've got to read more than just AI stuff, dude. No, you don't. You really do. I know it's your way of fighting depression, but it's working. Yeah, well, reading it is not for me. Okay. You know, one of the things that people People forget. We had a lot of wins these last two years. We still can have a lot more wins.
SPEAKER_01And I'm kind of jealous of your sexy black gun and your sexy green gun here.
SPEAKER_03What are you looking at?
SPEAKER_01Your guns with sensors on them.
SPEAKER_03Suppressors, yes.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the the black one is PSA AR10.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear the PSA part.
SPEAKER_03Uh no, they make a good gun, dude. They really do. It's uh it's it's good. And then the the others might war, obviously. And my my Bagara, I'm gonna be able to swap stuff around for my Bagara as well. But no, where I was going is did you see what Elsae tried to do with Trump?
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_03So he said, call it Trump care and let's do Medicaid for all. And you know I'd be all for that. You'd be all for that? Hell yeah. Yeah, Medicaid for everyone.
SPEAKER_01I've heard medical coverage right now. No. My insurance is ending.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so go get insurance.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I will. I'm waiting for Trump.
SPEAKER_03You know, actually, since you've been unemployed for this long, you can probably get on Medicaid.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't like the coverage, dude, on Medicaid. I want I want real insurance.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well, no. Like I like what Phil Avante had to say. Yes, okay, fine, do it. Let's speedrun the end of the dollar and the society as fast as possible.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I'd that that'd be alright. That would be alright. Just buy your wheelboro beforehand.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. For the Weimar Republic style. Well, but everybody uses plastic now any day.
SPEAKER_01No, Fable 5.2 actually is able to do PCB routing now, which is amazing.
SPEAKER_03Why is that amazing?
SPEAKER_01Well, we used to have to use expensive software to be able to do that. Okay, but it's you know the more the more weird specialty tasks it can do, the closer you get to AGI. Because it's really AGI, it's really SI.
SPEAKER_03Okay, Trump.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, that's it's more accurate term.
SPEAKER_03Why?
SPEAKER_01Slopcore intelligence?
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry, what intelligence?
SPEAKER_01That's what it stands for.
SPEAKER_03It's supposed to stand for super intelligence, but okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like to differ. It's pretty amazing.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Did you see Dana Brunetti and Rob Dew started a new show? They're two episodes.
SPEAKER_01I saw that they were
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SPEAKER_01starting one. I I haven't actually heard it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's not bad. I was listening to the first episode today.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Okay. Good. What are they talking about?
SPEAKER_03They're taking the no agenda-esque thing, but they're copying uh they're not quite at Planet Rage level of cursing and dirtiness. They're trying to still make it somewhat family friendly.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, that's probably good.
SPEAKER_03In between.
SPEAKER_01Well, no agenda was pretty clean.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no agenda was very clean.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. So I don't know why anyone would need to make it dirtier.
SPEAKER_01It's got pretty good success without being dirty. Did you listen to Tina and Adam's other show?
SPEAKER_03No. No, okay.
SPEAKER_01They've restarted.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's just I it's it's too Christian for you. It's too feminine of a show for me.
SPEAKER_01Too feminine of a show, okay. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I guess I'll give the restart a chance.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, I you know, I don't. I always used to listen to that show.
SPEAKER_03The And no, I listen to We Get to Do This, thank you. You know.
SPEAKER_01Talk about a feminist show.
SPEAKER_03That's not a feminine show, but it is a Christian show.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, they they got some really nice wine as gifts again after restarting the show.
SPEAKER_03Strocker.
SPEAKER_01A lot of guys said that they were very happy that Adam's restarting it because their wives have been listening to it.
SPEAKER_00So yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's a good thing. But no, I I I think, you know, I don't I told T Nell that uh it doesn't really matter what she's talking about on the show. She just has a good personality for a talk show. So whether it's a Christian thing or you know, women's shit or drinking show or or politics, it doesn't really matter. I think she just comes across well on a podcast.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_01You know, Adam is very smooth, he's been doing it his whole life. There's nobody that's gonna do it quite like him, but I think Tina just isn't natural. She's natural at talking into a microphone. She she comes across as somebody who has a good voice and a interesting enough person to listen to. Where it's actually not as common as some people would think because when you're talking to a microphone with nothing and nobody there on the other side, you know, you're kind of talking to just a microphone. A lot of people have trouble doing that. They they can't really stay on topic, they can't fill the gaps, they have to record it in little chunks, and you occasionally you'll see this that people have assembled a half-hour show out of an hour's worth of trying to do show. Then you see people that just use AI voice that can't do it themselves. I mean, it's not it's not as common or as easy a thing as I think a lot of people think. But Tina kind of got her start on my show, my old show that doesn't exist anymore. And I was very happy that she ended up uh continuing and doing it with Adam. And now that they've restarted, I'm very happy about that as well.
SPEAKER_06Cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Now the one thing I heard on that show that shocked me is how much their dog weighs now.
SPEAKER_03She got fat.
SPEAKER_01120 pounds.
SPEAKER_03It's a big dog though.
SPEAKER_01It's not that big a dog. It's it's a it's it's a you know what I would refer to as like a medium large dog or a large medium dog. She's not a she's not one of the giant dog families. She's kind of a mutt, but still not really. I I got I gotta imagine she was around 70 pounds when they picked her up.
SPEAKER_03I had a 120-pound German Shepherd, but he was a German German Shepherd and a big dog.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like, by the way, German Shepherds in America and German German Shepherds. Oh, they're very different. Totally different dogs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01The breed that's known here as German Shepherd is a different breed. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's inbred.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't think it's it, but it's definitely, I mean, all breeds are inbred. That's how you get a breed, but it's it's distinct from what in Europe is referred to as a German Shepherd.
SPEAKER_03Right, but the German German Shepherds don't have the hip dysplasia. They're larger, they're smarter, they're totally different temperaments.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, most police departments that use drug dogs actually import them from Europe. They're very expensive. I inquired about this.
SPEAKER_03Where we got our German Shepherd from was a reader that imported them over and bred them for police dogs.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, the the ones in Plano were all imported from it's like Slovakia or someplace. One of the East European countries. They were really cool dogs. I they so I I was involved in a number of different security events planning committees. And so I I we always try to get the the drug-sniffing dogs to come in. It kind of freaks out the nerds. So it's it's always fun to do that. Alright, we're looking for a volunteer who would like to volunteer. Nobody's raising their hands. Like, shit, the dog's gonna smell the pot on me that I had six weeks ago. But yeah, very cool dogs. The uh all the ones that that I've ever been around, they all don't use English commands, which is the parite thing you should do. Never teach your dog English commands because you don't want other people issuing commands to your dog. So dogs will speak whatever other language you teach them in. Or listen, I guess, not speak.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Which Larry David, by the way, on Curb had an episode where this one guy had a dog named Adolf.
SPEAKER_02Was it a German shepherd?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was a German shepherd. And you know, he was like,
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SPEAKER_01well, that's a little weird. And and the guy's like, oh no, no, no, he's the sweetest dog, you know, he's like totally veers away from the whole Hitler thing, and then as soon as the guy leaves, the dog just starts like sniffing Larry and growling at him. He can't get away. And then I can't remember what all happened in that episode, but it I remember at the end of the episode, like the dog was either going after Larry or somebody else, I think it was some other Jewish dude. The dog like started grabbing his leg. And then Larry yells, Heil Hitler, Heil Hitler, and the dog just sits down and lifts his paw.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so like a county.
SPEAKER_01Let's go of the person, obviously. Yeah. So you have a story about like people from your compound having dogs like that? No. Oh, okay. Well, it sounded like you were starting a story.
SPEAKER_03I didn't live on a compound. I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01Right. I don't mean compound, sorry. I mean kibbutz. Please. There weren't very many Jews up there. What I certainly wouldn't expect any, frankly. Uh all right, what else has been happening that I I haven't noticed since I've been tracking mostly just AI shit?
SPEAKER_03Well, I was trying to.
SPEAKER_01There was something I was gonna say, but did you see Bill Gates managed to put his foot in his mouth again?
SPEAKER_03No, I didn't, but before you go to that, because you'll remember.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Fuck, dude. Outlook around the world, everywhere. Down.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because of a fucking zero day.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Yep.
SPEAKER_03Like all you had to do was open the email and it totally leaked your your Active Directory hash for your credentials. Nice.
SPEAKER_01Like, holy shit. We're gonna see more of that.
SPEAKER_03Why?
SPEAKER_01Well, much like we saw that ChatGPT published a thousand Linux vulnerabilities in one day. We're gonna see that for other platforms and other applications non-stop. That's one of the reason number one. Reason number two is what I've been saying over and over and over, which is the ability for people to make applications using AI with zero development knowledge at all, is leading to a shit ton of apps in circulation that have no security whatsoever. Yeah. And they're all gonna be vectors. Oh, look, AI made me an app that lets me log in into my shit without having to type anything. How awesome.
SPEAKER_03But dude, do you understand the economic impact of Office 365 and Outlook being down across the globe?
SPEAKER_01I mean, a lot of people got the day off. Big deal.
SPEAKER_03Well, I didn't.
SPEAKER_01Do you guys not use Outlook?
SPEAKER_03We do. But Teams was working and I was able to continue.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Well, there you go. Yeah, I mean, I I saw it. In fact, X had a little breakdown as well today. I don't know if you saw. No, I didn't. Yeah. X lost all their billing data from Grok. Sorry, when I say X, I mean Grok. So if you have a Grok account, you go in to see what your usage is. And for a lot of people, and specifically people that weren't on the super size accounts and weren't on Enterprise, their usage just said data unavailable. And their usage was not being tracked during that period of time.
SPEAKER_03Oh, go crazy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. A lot of people tried that. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03And I think it's all back now.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_03It's working for me right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, and it's always worked for me. Like I never had a disappear. It was always tracking. That's how I knew I used a billion tokens today, and that was all Grock tokens.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I renew resets in three days and I've used 35%.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's I think I think the availability of tokens across the board, maybe not next week, but within the month or two is going to go down quite a bit because a lot of these companies will just not be able to borrow money anymore.
SPEAKER_03Well, and one of my big projects that we've talked about before that I'm working on right now, I'm I'm tracking very closely to see what's going on there because I very much see some of these companies making a pullback.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, totally. I think we're going to have a big reshuffle going on, at the very least, and and possibly a whole bubble crash.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03Which that'll be fun for the economy. And Trump will get to blame it on the Democrats.
SPEAKER_01I mean, the American taxpayer is going to be the one that's bailing him out.
SPEAKER_03I don't think we bail them out under Trump.
SPEAKER_01We bail out everybody that's too big to fail.
SPEAKER_03See, that's the thing, though. That's a fallacy. There is no such thing as too big to fail. Let it fucking fail.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying historically that's what we do. We take shitty companies. But I don't think Trump's gonna do that. We bail him out.
SPEAKER_03I don't think Trump's gonna do that.
SPEAKER_01You don't think? I think he will. No.
SPEAKER_03I I think he looked at how Bush was seen after that. You got really quiet, man. I don't think he will because after the 2008 bailouts, how Bush and Obama were seen, I don't think he wants to be seen that way.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, let's hope you're right.
SPEAKER_03Like an economic reset in this country would be a good thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. It would be it would slow down inflation, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_03Well, it would actually probably be very deflationary, which would not be a bad thing. Because all those assets that have already been bought up that have been physically made are going to go to something. But they're going to go way the hell cheaper because there's not so much demand. So now you have the same assets that were going to be deployed,
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SPEAKER_03deployed by someone else, that then does it cheaper and it's a deflationary act. It may delay the deployment of them, but it would be deflationary in its actions.
SPEAKER_01And the and we had that under Obama until he had that absolutely insanely stupid Cash for Clunkers program that took a bunch of perfectly good vehicles off the roads.
SPEAKER_02Vehicle prices have never been the same.
SPEAKER_01Yep. And raised the vehicle price because we we had decent discounts across the board. If you were buying an F-150 with a bunch of options, you were getting five grand, even seven grand off that sticker. Now you're paying sticker and often above sticker.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'm not because I haven't bought a new truck in 13 years.
SPEAKER_01Well, there you go. You just proved my point. It's not a it's not a beneficial to restrict or narrow availability of things the way that happened during Obama.
SPEAKER_03Agreed. But that's my point, is you wouldn't be narrowing or restricting artificially. You would be companies that you would see a fire sell of assets that would not change the overall availability, right? But the demand curve would be much lower.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Well, and again, as I told you earlier today when we chatted in our non-recorded podcasts that we do often, the for gamers, today's news with Jensen was like a awesome news.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Jay's Two Cents did a video on it.
SPEAKER_01Did he? Okay. Yeah, because it basically means that if the ripple happens, if the bubble's not even fully bursts, but just like has You might get 5090s back. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03And and I I would argue that right now is the worst time to possibly have purchased a $5,000 graphics card.
SPEAKER_01Don't remind me.
SPEAKER_03Right now return the son of a bitch, dude, and buy a suppressor. Well, and wait a month.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but what if it doesn't go down, you know?
SPEAKER_03Oh well, you'll live.
SPEAKER_01So here's the argument for why I don't think it will go down is that if data centers can't be affording to buy these sixty thousand dollar cards, they're gonna start buying up all the previous generation cards just to keep going. Because remember, I have a data center card, not a consumer card.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01So you know. I don't know. Anyway, the the benefit for the gamers is that two things happen. One is if the bubble starts bursting, data centers don't get the money to be built. They're not built, that means they don't need those 10,000 or 100,000 GPUs, which means those GPUs no longer need the memory, so memory prices go down. The GPUs that are produced may actually be produced in a greater amount, a greater volume than what's demanded by data centers, so those could start dropping in price. And all like for companies that make GPUs, it's actually much more risky to be dealing with data centers and selling them hardware because you know, data centers are operating based on how much money they can borrow. Whereas you look at a market like gamers who don't have as much per card that they spend, they're not buying 60 or 90,000 cards. Hell, they're not even buying the five thousand dollar cards unless they're idiots. So they're they're basically looking to spend three grand or less on a card. There's a lot of them, and those cards have not been uh updated or available in those price ranges for quite a while, which means you could sell a shitload of 5090s right now at 3,000 bucks a pop, and you'd probably sell as many as you've sold to data centers. The difference is they're three grand a piece instead of you know 40 or 90 grand a piece. But they also don't take as much money to make.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01So I don't know. Well, we'll see what happens. The upset could be humongous and catastrophic, or it could be barely a ripple if all these companies manage. To have figured out a way to insure themselves.
SPEAKER_03So what if Jensen decided to go really hardcore fuck you to NVIDIA and decided, you know what? I'm going to go work with Elon. He's going to give me a hell of a lot of stock and we're going to do this. And I'm just going to liquidate my NVIDIA stock.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that would tink NVIDIA completely. If Jensen sells off his equity, I mean, Jesus, dude.
SPEAKER_03That would be even half of it, right? His wife doesn't have any interest in holding that equity.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Let me ask you. Can you imagine what that would do to their stock price?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What are you doing?
SPEAKER_01I'm seeing if if that's a public figure for how much equity he has. He has 800 million shares. That's shares, not dollars. Multiply that by 166.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So he's he's got about what? About 100 billion in NVIDIA stock. Sorry, 133 billion. Yeah. 133 billion worth of Nvidia stock that he currently holds.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, take that market cap off of him. Take my company, I fuck you over.
SPEAKER_01I mean, a sell-off like that is gonna crash their price to 50 bucks a share.
SPEAKER_03And that's when you buy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I don't know that you do buy at that point because that company may not survive. That's that's that's the other piece, is that the reason that company is worth that much is predominantly because of Jensen.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and he's built it from the ground up. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he was an engineer back in the day.
SPEAKER_03And what they started in the 90s, and he saw universities starting to use his cards for compute, optimize them for compute, and did all of this way before anyone said the words AI, right? Oh yeah. Like the man was ahead of his time. And if I'm an NVIDIA shareholder, I'm probably suing Jensen and the board for saying, I don't care what he did in his personal life. Why the hell did y'all oust him? Like the problem you're gonna have with that is that he will fully resign. That's why I said to Director Jensen. Yeah. But the board was investigating and pressuring. There was a lot of public pressure.
SPEAKER_01Well, he admitted to having three affairs. Two. Three.
SPEAKER_03Oh, there's a third?
SPEAKER_01There's third.
SPEAKER_03Who's the third?
SPEAKER_01Another employee.
SPEAKER_03Good for him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's why I say. So what? Who cares? He didn't twist anybody's arm.
SPEAKER_02I would say big dick energy, but you know, he's
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SPEAKER_02Asian.
SPEAKER_01So oh God. There's the racism right there. There we go.
SPEAKER_02Hey, I worked hard on that test, Gene.
SPEAKER_01I bet you well, not hard enough, apparently.
SPEAKER_03Right? I got rookie numbers. They're too low.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. Yeah, it's uh I think everyone who is in tech right now that has an Asian girlfriend is looking sideways. Yeah, exactly. It's raising their eyebrows right now. Like, uh and and I know Asmund Gold is absolutely getting bombarded right now.
SPEAKER_02About what?
SPEAKER_01His girlfriend.
SPEAKER_02I didn't know his girlfriend was Asian.
SPEAKER_01Uh Chinese. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And she's really hot. Which, you know, you would expect the millionaire to have a hot girlfriend, obviously.
SPEAKER_02He's the Roach King, dude.
SPEAKER_01The Roach King millionaire. His roaches wear leather boots, man.
SPEAKER_03Which, for those who don't know, Asmund Gold is a streamer, gamer, and troll.
SPEAKER_01Let's leave a political commentator.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but he is very famous for not bathing and not cleaning up and having just piles of shit around him living in his parents' old house.
SPEAKER_01His mom's old house, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Even though he makes millions of dollars.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. He he's he makes about 10 million a year.
SPEAKER_03And you know, he's got his recipe out there that chefs have done just to try and mock it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The the five dollar steak or whatever.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03And yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know what's funny about that is if you refer to it as a shitty Walmart steak, it sounds really bad. But if you actually look at what he's cooking, he's basically got thin sliced meat like fajitas. It's just not sliced into strips, it's sliced into like the the thinness of bacon strips. So you don't have to cook it a whole lot, and you don't have to do a whole lot to it. Just put a tiny amount of seasoning and some onions in there, and it it's basically like eating, you know, fajita beef without the fajita.
SPEAKER_03Without the tortilla.
SPEAKER_01Just with yeah, without the tortilla, just with your fork. So I I don't think it's anywhere as bad as it's it sounds bad because it's portrayed as like buy the cheapest meat from Walmart that you can.
SPEAKER_03Well, and he also doesn't clean his pan. Why would I clean my pan? I'm gonna use it for the same thing tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01Like, oh well, that's true. You don't really need to.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Your pan goes significantly above the temperature of any bacteria every time you use it.
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_01And you're gonna add flavor if you don't wash it. Do you clean do you power wash your grill between uses?
SPEAKER_03I clean my grill be between uses.
SPEAKER_01Do you well what do you clean it with?
SPEAKER_03A brush. I scrape off bits. No, of course not.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So you're still leaving a lot of flavor on there?
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I think the pan's the same way. I I know I think it the idea of washing pans is fairly modern. If you had a cast iron pan back in like my parents' day, you would season it, you'd use it, and then you wipe it off with like a d a dry paper towel, you would not actually wash it because that washes the oils out of it. Well, something you don't heat, it's much more important to really scrub. But something that heats up at 400 degrees, you don't need to.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, in my germaphobe household, I rinse out the pan with water, but there is no soap used.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03And I re-oil the pan every time I use it for my cast iron.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Well, you know what I oil it with?
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_03Lard.
SPEAKER_01Lard, okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Which people say, oh, well, that can go rancid. Okay, yeah. If you're not using your pan but once every six months, sure. But otherwise, lard and tallow are shelf stable, dude. Yep. Which I like using lard and tallow versus seed oils.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03What other stories did you want to care for?
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to remember if we had oh yeah, what's his face is Bill Gates. So yeah, go. Bill Gates, once again, putting his foot in his mouth, as he is tend to do. This time around, it was. Let me find a story. I'll tell you exactly. I was looking at it, and then somebody sent me something, which scrolled it off that story and onto something else.
SPEAKER_03Remind me to tell you a story about someone I know who happened to be a stripper in Seattle during the 90s.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that sounds fascinating, sure. A stripper in Seattle. Have you ever dated a stripper?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01I have.
SPEAKER_03My buddy did.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. Where the hell did I put it?
SPEAKER_03We used to have a strip club in college station. It was called the the silk stocking, and everybody referred to it as the dirty sock.
SPEAKER_01That's pretty bad.
SPEAKER_03I have been to one strip club in my entire life.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah? I kind of figured you for a strip club guy.
SPEAKER_03Nope, not at all.
SPEAKER_01That's surprising.
SPEAKER_03Not at all. My friends drug me to one in shit, where was it? It was somewhere in northern Idaho for my 18th birthday. Yeah. And bought me
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SPEAKER_03a lap dance and stuff, and I just told the girl to sit down, you know. Because to me, a strip club is pointless.
SPEAKER_01I totally agree with that.
SPEAKER_03You either don't want to touch it and you're like, ugh. Yeah. Or you want to touch it and you can't.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03At least if I'm at home, I can take care of the problem myself, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the the strip club does not make sense to me either. I've never understood it because guys that have girlfriends want to go out and then have random chicks grinding on them that they can't do anything with. Because I think they feel like that's as close as they're allowed to get. You know what I mean? Allowed to get to what? To get to touching another woman. Because they're married. Or they're not even married. They're just, you know, in relationships or whatever.
SPEAKER_03I don't think most wives would say that they're allowed to do that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, whatever. But you know, because they're it's always well, it's my buddy's a bachelor party, and you know, everyone else will have strippers grinding in them, but not me. I'm promise I'm not gonna do that. Then when they're obviously at the club, you know, all bets are off. But I I'm right there with you. I've had generally not worthwhile experiences at strip clubs. Like there have been a number of really cool strippers that I've ended up just sitting and talking with for like an hour, and then you know nothing against the people paying him 300 bucks just to talk, which is a waste of money.
SPEAKER_03That's my point.
SPEAKER_01That's what I did with the one stripper, you know, and I I've done that in a number of different clubs where it just so happened the chick was actually interesting, and I I actually had a good conversation with her.
SPEAKER_03Well, but my my entire point is it's just not something for me. I've had friends who have done that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, dude, I know guys that go to clubs every at least every month, if not every week.
SPEAKER_03When you asked me if I ever dated a stripper, I dated an ex-stripper, but not when she was doing stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the one I dated wasn't stripping at the time either. But, you know, I think she'd only like not been stripping for a couple of weeks before I started dating.
SPEAKER_03My buddy was dating her while she was doing stuff, which I thought was just Yeah, that's a little weirder.
SPEAKER_01That's a little weirder. But you know, I mean, on the other hand, it's like it's not a whole lot different than any other performance profession. Like, it'd be pretty gross to date an actress.
SPEAKER_03Yep. Agreed.
SPEAKER_01You know, she's sitting there kissing some dude on set. Yeah. In bed with him.
SPEAKER_03Did you find your Microsoft story?
SPEAKER_01No, can't find it. So I guess we're not talking about Bill Gates anymore.
SPEAKER_03Well, Cat Turd just posted the Democrats cheated big time in the elections, and they are trying to take control of our country. Recognize what's going on right now and fight, fight, fight. And it's a video, it's a gif of Trump after being shot at Butler raising his arm.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I mean, sure. Is Cat Turd gonna go out and fight?
SPEAKER_03Probably not.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_03Cat Turd probably looks like you.
SPEAKER_01He does look like me. Have you not seen Cat Thurd?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01He's a fat dude in his 50s.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. There you go.
SPEAKER_01So, you know, it's yeah, fight, fight, fight. Sure.
SPEAKER_03I I think y'all are the ones who actually should be. You're you're Torching. Should we? Yes, instead of Operation Send in the Darkies, it should be Operation Send in the Neckbeards.
SPEAKER_01Oh that's funny.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the the weirdos, the beardos, the fatties, send them in first.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That would go over really well, because then you have people equally matched on both sides fighting.
SPEAKER_05Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No, I I think ultimately if if we get to a point where there's violence coming from the right, the left is gonna get extremely quiet and meek. Because they're not gonna want to fight somebody who fights back.
SPEAKER_03I think they'll try and use the power of the state to just.
SPEAKER_01The left's entire well, they could, but the left's entire aggression relies on no opposition. Which is what they get virtually every time. They get nobody that's actually pushing on them. So it's But that's few and far between. Most of the time it's not that.
SPEAKER_03Come on, look what they did to him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you got Nick out there going out and you know, saying, hey, the future is groper.
SPEAKER_03Well, and you've got that's Nick Fuentes. Yeah. You've got Nick Fer uh Ferris or Ferris.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yeah. The Virginian guy who's not in Virginia anymore.
SPEAKER_03He's saying, I will not comply.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03Push me on it and see how and I believe him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, him I believe. Okay? That I have no doubts about. He he he is a guy that has no reason to say things he doesn't mean. But there's not a whole lot of hymns around.
SPEAKER_03Well, especially with his skill set.
SPEAKER_01His skill set, his physique, you know. And his political bent.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I'm closer to his physique than you are, so there you go.
SPEAKER_01What's that?
SPEAKER_03I'm closer to his physique than you are.
SPEAKER_01I don't know about that, man. I got I got the better beard.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Yeah, but I've got the the the muscles and the muscles, yes, okay like actual body shape.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay. What are you benching these days?
SPEAKER_03I haven't benched in a long time.
SPEAKER_01I know Mr. Track and Field Runner.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm I'm I have never claimed to have uh great upper body strength.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, Nick has got great upper body strength. That's my point.
SPEAKER_03My leg strength, like it don't ask me what I can bench, but ask me what I can squat, and that's a very different thing. I again haven't done it in forever, but I used to be able to do quite a bit. When I back in back in my day, uh like high school, college, and all that, I you know, I was a pretty decent athlete at the time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, I was too. I was in the chess club.
SPEAKER_03I so was I, but I'm talking like yeah,
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SPEAKER_03track, martial arts, uh swim team, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of martial arts, are you got your kids involved now?
SPEAKER_03I'm I'm trying, but my son just doesn't want to do anything. He gets back from school and he's like, I don't want to do anything. He doesn't want to go anywhere, don't want to do anything.
SPEAKER_01You know, Jesse in our group, my buddy Jesse has he's not good, he's got two boys. He's got both of them doing hockey now.
SPEAKER_05There you go.
SPEAKER_01Love hockey. It's a great way for a kid, a boy to really kind of learn to do fun stuff with sports.
SPEAKER_03I am all for contact sports. You know, it's it teaches you a lot about yourself.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And it teaches you a lot about self-control. Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_01And it it I'll tell you what else it does is it makes pain not theoretical.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Well, and that and that's the thing. Like, you know, my kids fight all the time. And, you know, she always says, Oh, we gotta stop and we gotta do this. And I'm like, no, let them fight it out. Let one of them get hurt, let one of them realize that they hurt the other and that there are consequences to that. Let the one that got hurt realize, hey, if this had gone the other way, they would have felt this. I don't want that. Like, yeah, you gotta let them have it out occasionally.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. No, I it's I women don't understand this, man. They're built different.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01So I think I don't think you're gonna logically convince a wife. Oh no. No.
SPEAKER_03This is why the 19th should be revealed.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it's it's against their programming to allow the kids to be put in even minor danger.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's not just that, it's logic. Right.
SPEAKER_01Well, they don't have any, yeah. Yeah, which is not exclusive to women, and then just to be clear, people that don't have logic is not limited to women, it's just the default position for women. Men have to try hard to get to a point where they don't actually use or understand logic.
SPEAKER_03Well, they're there are always those outliers, but yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I I've run into men that clearly have no concept of logic at all.
SPEAKER_03So are just not intellectually honest, yes.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Why are you sending phallic images here in our chat?
SPEAKER_03Uh, first of all, that's the groove chat, and it's a someone made uh you're basically sending dick pics now. No, it's a it's a 3.2 gram 22 caliber bullet in a 378 weatherby magnum case, nicked all the way down.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03Can you imagine the velocity sets up the bullet's going to cut?
SPEAKER_0110,000.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, the
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SPEAKER_03the the reality is the bullet having to go into that chamber, like you would have to cut even jacketed, that bullet is coming apart, right? Because of the force. The centripetal force that it's going to get if it's in that actual rifle barrel, even if you just shot it through the 378 barrel and you didn't have the centripetal force, it's going to tumble. It's going to tumble immediately because there's going to be some imbalance and it's so much force by it. But I like that someone did that because it's, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's it's it's ridiculous, which makes it funny. Yes.
SPEAKER_03And if if if the tip of yours is that small, dude, you you've got a problem.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I didn't even see the tip of there the first time. I thought it was just the cartridge, man. And then sure enough, you do have a 22 in there.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_01Jesus. Yeah, I thought it was like a blank that somebody made out of a 378.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, no.
SPEAKER_01Powder only. No cartridge. No, no actual bullet.
SPEAKER_03I I just I would love to play. Like, if I had more time, I would totally play and chronograph shit like that just for fun.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yeah, well, that's this is why one of my favorite channels is what do they call it? The deflator mouse channel. The the guys that check the one-off shotgun rounds. Yeah. Their whole channel is basically like, we had a viewer that sent us this. We're gonna shoot it.
SPEAKER_02Yep, that's interesting.
SPEAKER_01And it is the some of the craziest shotgun rounds you've ever seen. Including like you know, embedding a 22 into a shell so that it goes off on contact. So it doesn't actually fire until you hit something. And now you're gonna shoot a 22 at point blank range.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but that's not really effective because do you have the mass and the inertia behind it to like because everything's equal and opposite reaction.
SPEAKER_01But that's the point, is you've got that huge mass of the lead shell, uh the lead round behind it to push off of.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's I mean they're very creative rounds. Then there's also the you know, the the lead with the tungsten balls in between. So when the lead starts shredding, the tungsten balls just keep going straight. The lead basically turns to like a soft play-doh when it hits something at that speed. It's extremely malleable. So the having something hard in there as well makes the round a lot more interesting. Now, I i I think most of them fall in the general category of overkill. Because even without all the fancy shit, it ends up killing everything it hits. But it looks cool when it when you've got some creative thinking in those rounds. I need to go and shoot my shotgun. I haven't shot my shotgun in quite a while. Need to go out and do that.
SPEAKER_03Well, you know, which shotgun do you have?
SPEAKER_01I've got well, I've got a few of them, but the fun one is the the Tavour shotgun.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I remember the story I was gonna talk about. And we'll have to make this one the last one. But uh bring the Tavor out to my parents for Thanksgiving. The shotgun?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I'll chuck it in the car.
SPEAKER_03But massy.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03What a failure.
SPEAKER_01Dude. That's a dirty word. Don't even say that word.
SPEAKER_03Massy or failure.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. No, massy.
SPEAKER_03Like, what a dick move to try and impeach Pete Heggseth.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03At the end. Completely. And I I'm I'm glad it went absolutely fucking nowhere.
SPEAKER_01Yep. But you know, all it is is he's just trying to create his next run as a Democrat. That's all he's doing.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_01He's like, see, I'm one of you guys. I'm one of you guys.
SPEAKER_03I think he'll run for the Republican nomination.
SPEAKER_01I think he's gonna run for the Democrat one.
unknownNah.
SPEAKER_01He's a Democrat.
SPEAKER_03He's gonna say he's the true
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SPEAKER_03America for the United States.
SPEAKER_01He's always been a Democrat. He's never once voted for a Trump sponsored bill.
SPEAKER_03Well, but that's because he's Freedom Caucus. He's the real libertarian guy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Well, he can go suck ass. And on that note, Ben, we're gonna sh shut her down.
SPEAKER_03All right, Gene. We'll talk to you later.
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